Apple Vision Pro review: magic, until it’s not

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  • Опубликовано: 30 июн 2024
  • Apple’s long-awaited entry into the world of computers you wear on your face is here. Apple claims that the Vision Pro, a VR headset that starts at $3,499, is the beginning of something called “spatial computing,” which basically boils down to running apps all around you. The Verge’s Editor-in-Chief Nilay Patel answers all your Vision Pro questions. #Apple #Technology #AppleVisionPro
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    0:00 Intro
    2:00 Spatial computer or a VR headset?
    2:59 EyeSight and front display
    3:38 Hardware and accessories
    6:38 Displays & field of view
    8:27 Video passthrough (latency, dynamic range, motion blur)
    11:41 Personas and FaceTime call with Marques Brownlee (‪@mkbhd‬) and Joanna Stern (‪@wsj‬)
    14:29 Eye tracking
    16:26 Hand tracking
    17:41 VisionOS (apps and window management)
    19:27 Secondary Mac display
    20:22 AR & MR
    21:25 Watching movies with Vision Pro
    23:18 Spatial videos
    25:01 Conclusion
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  • @TheVerge
    @TheVerge  5 месяцев назад +2107

    Which is more rude - talking to someone wearing an AVP or talking to their “persona” on a Zoom call?

    • @Roshan_420
      @Roshan_420 5 месяцев назад +90

      Neither

    • @Condimenting
      @Condimenting 5 месяцев назад +1

      Why are you always so negative? Stop being such a killjoy.

    • @Riceordie
      @Riceordie 5 месяцев назад +72

      I tried to kiss my mother in law on our Christmas party. Nothing is rude anymore.

    • @cubaindy6700
      @cubaindy6700 5 месяцев назад +57

      Or, The Verge's lame a$$ self-conscious display of "worldly" cynicism.

    • @kevinbailey8827
      @kevinbailey8827 5 месяцев назад +23

      Please don’t be rude to people wearing Vision Pro.

  • @khalid537
    @khalid537 5 месяцев назад +6511

    "Listen to me, do you really want a computer that is always looking to your hands." had me laughing.

  • @TheExoticBeard
    @TheExoticBeard 5 месяцев назад +1929

    This review should be a benchmark for anyone who wants to do tech product review.
    30min I couldn't even skip and forgot that I'm watching a video .. feels honest, personal , and to the point.
    The other reviews of the AVP feels like they are afraid to piss off Apple.

    • @ryuno2097
      @ryuno2097 5 месяцев назад +77

      because if they piss of Apple, then Apple won't send them stuff to review.
      Then they have to buy the stuff to do review!!!. OMG!!! Can you imagine the horror?? Buying tech to review? That absurd and preposterous.

    • @trooks40
      @trooks40 5 месяцев назад +49

      Agree, this felt well balanced and unbiased compared to every other review I’ve seen so far.

    • @noah-j00
      @noah-j00 5 месяцев назад +22

      mkbhd?

    • @mackinyoungin
      @mackinyoungin 5 месяцев назад

      Agreed. The AVP is promising a new computer experience so it’s great how they carried us through that experience before giving us an evaluation based on some fundamental questions.

    • @SarabjeetSanghera
      @SarabjeetSanghera 5 месяцев назад +13

      I know the ones you are talking about. MKBHDGSJA loving the external battery.

  • @TimeBucks
    @TimeBucks 5 месяцев назад +268

    This is one of the best reviews I have ever seen.

  • @lisam.willson1679
    @lisam.willson1679 5 месяцев назад +266

    I was sitting here watching this thinking “Is this one of the best product reviews I’ve ever seen?” Then I went to the comments and realized I wasn’t alone; this truly was a spectacular review. Thoughtful, informative, critical without being cynical, funny at times, and passionate. This review was the moment I decided to subscribe, because if this is the quality of reviews that I can expect from The Verge, I’m all in.

    • @Danielr0418
      @Danielr0418 4 месяца назад +7

      Unfortunately this kind of quality is mostly tied to Apple products. But it was a wonderfully done review.

    • @user-vf4dp7ht4t
      @user-vf4dp7ht4t 4 месяца назад +1

      are u gonna buy one for yourself

    • @user-vf4dp7ht4t
      @user-vf4dp7ht4t 4 месяца назад

      @@Danielr0418are u gonna buy one for yourself

    • @myroomismyoffice8733
      @myroomismyoffice8733 4 месяца назад +1

      really? the guy is only mooning - 95% negative - bla bla bla

    • @rond2077
      @rond2077 4 месяца назад

      @@myroomismyoffice8733 Don't forget the Doh-Reh-Mee that this thing requires one to "sing".

  • @Melusi
    @Melusi 5 месяцев назад +1284

    Why doesn’t the verge just do this the whole time. They could be just as big as any of the other techtube review brands…this is seriously the best review I’ve ever seen on RUclips. Bravo!!!!!

    • @jonahhammond2438
      @jonahhammond2438 5 месяцев назад +43

      The verge isn’t just a RUclips channel 🤦‍♂️

    • @raf_bw
      @raf_bw 5 месяцев назад +51

      Is the first time I spent almost 30 min watching a review and ended wanting more. What a great experience. 😮🎉

    • @Antenox
      @Antenox 5 месяцев назад +27

      It costs money to make these videos, so it's only worth doing for products that they know will attract lots of viewers

    • @kirillpetrovsky5830
      @kirillpetrovsky5830 5 месяцев назад +47

      I really liked Nilay's presentation style. Calm, with a degree of philosophical heft

    • @ricardorehlander348
      @ricardorehlander348 5 месяцев назад +9

      Agree. This was an insanely good and transparent video!

  • @ThyInfoMan
    @ThyInfoMan 5 месяцев назад +1396

    Never watched a verge review before but this was one of the best tech reviews I've seen in a while and, considering I basically live on techtube, is saying something. Bravo to the reviewer, dude killed it

    • @ignorantro
      @ignorantro 5 месяцев назад +53

      He doesn't do many reviews but Nilay Patel is the best tech reviewer in the game. And it's not close lol.

    • @GilbertTang
      @GilbertTang 5 месяцев назад +23

      Nilay... he's been in the game... well, since before techtube. Definitely good at what he does and then some.

    • @chocktalk
      @chocktalk 5 месяцев назад +5

      you need to get out more

    • @NitikSharma
      @NitikSharma 5 месяцев назад +3

      same, the whole video was insanely done had me captivated throughout the 28 minutes. def earned a subscriber

    • @kearlanventures
      @kearlanventures 5 месяцев назад +1

      More Nilay, less…well less of almost everyone else…

  • @kp-ms9tz
    @kp-ms9tz 5 месяцев назад +269

    Most of us will just have to wait till Vision Pro SE is released 5 yrs from now for $1k.

    • @Play-nn3bt
      @Play-nn3bt 5 месяцев назад +39

      Man, just buy quest 3

    • @loicmacken6761
      @loicmacken6761 5 месяцев назад +29

      At that point you can probably buy a Quest 6 for like 50 bucks xD

    • @alphagodvon
      @alphagodvon 5 месяцев назад +3

      Just save up or put it on credit.

    • @hepticftw
      @hepticftw 5 месяцев назад +23

      @@alphagodvonif it’s not essential, like a Vision Pro, don’t buy what you can’t afford credit is the worst possible option

    • @yurmajesty
      @yurmajesty 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@Play-nn3bt it’s not the same tho. Different experiences, ecosystems, and abilities.

  • @mikebell1018
    @mikebell1018 4 месяца назад +157

    Why is this filmed like a true crime doc. Those random angles on the guy 😂😂😂😂

    • @birbies
      @birbies 4 месяца назад +11

      verge forgot theyre not vice

    • @UnicornPizza
      @UnicornPizza 4 месяца назад +5

      All that’s missing is the creepy music lol

    • @mynameisben123
      @mynameisben123 4 месяца назад +3

      Yeah but I love it

    • @rond2077
      @rond2077 4 месяца назад +1

      Reminds me of the Eagles Auto Biography Movie. Nearly Every band member and/or affiliate "looked" at an angle to the camera, EXCEPT, Henley and Frey. I found that interesting, and certainly was a show of "seniority"!

    • @nicknorthcutt7680
      @nicknorthcutt7680 2 месяца назад +1

      😂😂

  • @Talik13
    @Talik13 5 месяцев назад +778

    13:04
    "You look like... like someone drew you from a memory."
    "From a nightmare they had of me"
    💀

    • @Blattie
      @Blattie 5 месяцев назад +2

      😂😂😂

    • @robhunt8378
      @robhunt8378 5 месяцев назад +6

      That's very instinctive. It really is a nightmare world that we're being dragged to here. I think most can sense it but are powerless to stop it from happening.

    • @Jabbernut-games
      @Jabbernut-games 5 месяцев назад

      @@robhunt8378 I mean, $3500 isn’t being dragged out of my wallet to buy this thing. I doubt this kind of technology will ever get cheap enough that everyone will have one. Sure, we’ll sometimes get in a Zoom call and have a weird digital person there, but it’s not like we’re being dragged into a nightmare VR world. You can always choose to not accept new technology.

    • @DailyRants89
      @DailyRants89 5 месяцев назад +3

      @@robhunt8378 money talks. If people don't buy the headset we can stop this from happening.

    • @teebu
      @teebu 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@DailyRants89just like Zuck's Metaverse.

  • @cheekypasta55
    @cheekypasta55 5 месяцев назад +686

    This is one of THE best product review videos Ive ever seen. The editing. The pacing. The narration. 100/100 presentation. I stopped caring about the headset halfway through and was just amazed on the production value of this. Well done Verge! And Well done Nilay Patel!

    • @_beanboi
      @_beanboi 5 месяцев назад +4

      very well put

    • @NoxidZ
      @NoxidZ 5 месяцев назад +3

      no really had to stop and sub of how good this was all put together and every word was on point.

    • @bakakafka4428
      @bakakafka4428 5 месяцев назад +1

      Basically you're saying the product really isn't that interesting, and Nilay is more fun to listen to. Well done Apple.

  • @tobyehrfilms
    @tobyehrfilms 5 месяцев назад +114

    This is not only the most grounded Apple Vision Pro Review yet but might just be the best video review of a consumer electronics device ever made

    • @zimboiii9025
      @zimboiii9025 4 месяца назад +11

      Yeah this guy is pretty good, made me like a Verge video for the first time in my life.

  • @Carboncluster
    @Carboncluster 4 месяца назад +69

    Actual journalism in 2024? This video was so great and informative! Really a great piece of journalistic work!

  • @_Daud
    @_Daud 5 месяцев назад +784

    This is the first time that I've sat through a 30 min review without skipping even a second.

    • @Clodd1
      @Clodd1 5 месяцев назад +19

      Wait a sec, was it 30 minutes long?!

    • @foolpersona_
      @foolpersona_ 5 месяцев назад +8

      @@Clodd1 lol didn't even notice

    • @smoll.miniatures
      @smoll.miniatures 5 месяцев назад +1

      Every second second? 😂

    • @markthompson1439
      @markthompson1439 5 месяцев назад +7

      me too! Nilay has instantly become my favorite tech reviewer

    • @alo.productions
      @alo.productions 5 месяцев назад +3

      Wow, y'all must be easily entertained, I skipped through it... Meh 😑 not impressed

  • @乂
    @乂 5 месяцев назад +1478

    This was quite a detailed review of Vision Pro. Well done, Verge!

    • @WSH3TM
      @WSH3TM 5 месяцев назад +30

      npc lol

    •  5 месяцев назад

      ily 2 bbg😘😘😘

    • @toniklemm1172
      @toniklemm1172 5 месяцев назад +3

      Same! I didn't think I would watch the whole thing, but I did lol

    • @conchobar
      @conchobar 5 месяцев назад +4

      First time I've seen The Verge review an Apple product with the same level of scrutiny they give to non-Apple products.

    • @tatianaes3354
      @tatianaes3354 5 месяцев назад +6

      @@conchobarreally? The Verge has been Google partner for more than decade both for its software and backend. And it shows in reviews like this.

  • @willow2893
    @willow2893 2 месяца назад +3

    coming back to watch this because it’s one of the best review videos i’ve ever seen. the first two minutes should win awards

  • @MikeLikesChannel
    @MikeLikesChannel 4 месяца назад +7

    This is far beyond most VR headsets I've tried. It's truly a taste of "what could some day be" -- not yet a product in its "iPhone 4 or iPhone 15" stage of maturity yet. Nilay is understandably critical, but I see those little smiles when he's using it -- so does Apple.
    I'll say if it was $2000 I'd already have bought it. But close to $4000 is out of my price range for "geeky curiosities"

  • @arfmf
    @arfmf 5 месяцев назад +393

    This is a review I doubt MKBHD can top. And that's saying a lot. Insights, conclusions, b-roll, flow. That's a masterpiece. What a turn (for good) The Verge. Hats off.

    • @epavlov
      @epavlov 5 месяцев назад +27

      I agree. Sad thing in this case, MKBHD will have millions more views that this video and people need to see this video before dropping some much money on this device

    • @epavlov
      @epavlov 5 месяцев назад +21

      Same thing happened with Cybertuck review. MKBHD review was weak sauce compared to for example Hagety review, which was absolutely fantastic, but got a way less views (19M vs 5M). And I say this as a big MKBHD supporter!

    • @jonathanodude6660
      @jonathanodude6660 5 месяцев назад +6

      @@epavlov those numbers are the same order of magnitute. this vid has 30k as of writing. just the unboxing by MKBHD has 830k+ views so far. thats almost 30x more. if his review gets ~20M like the one you mentioned and this one doesnt hit 50k, that is already over a 400x difference in reach.

    • @rangelo21
      @rangelo21 5 месяцев назад +15

      Relax. MKBHD doesn't even have a review video app only an unboxing, let's wait before judging..

    • @gemsandlasers269
      @gemsandlasers269 5 месяцев назад +15

      Well MKBHD is massively overrated, so that's kind of to be expected.

  • @JoeyBoBoey
    @JoeyBoBoey 4 месяца назад +11

    Where is the first jacket from!?

  • @gregoiredesusanne5127
    @gregoiredesusanne5127 5 месяцев назад +78

    Marques saying good thing about the vision pro and the Verge just roasting it💀

    • @hawkraider0078
      @hawkraider0078 4 месяца назад +43

      Well marques is very biased

    • @moccamixer
      @moccamixer 4 месяца назад

      @@hawkraider0078very bought

    • @JimSteininger
      @JimSteininger 4 месяца назад

      how@@hawkraider0078

    • @Midnightvq
      @Midnightvq 4 месяца назад

      @@hawkraider0078this is better than any other virtual/augmented reality device we have right now. How is that being biased?

    • @shnikes8366
      @shnikes8366 4 месяца назад +22

      You took this as a roast? He pointed out what it could do and why it’s not there yet. I thought there was just enough positive with negative.

  • @raineyjayy
    @raineyjayy 5 месяцев назад +518

    This is the first review I've heard that sounded like it wasn't written by Apple thank you

    • @LiliumOrientalis
      @LiliumOrientalis 5 месяцев назад +32

      And from The Verge of all places, it's wild

    • @augustpu94
      @augustpu94 5 месяцев назад +11

      ja bcause its written by Meta

    • @simulacrae
      @simulacrae 5 месяцев назад +8

      @@LiliumOrientalis The Verge isn't really pro Apple though. So this review tracks.

    • @mach1one
      @mach1one 5 месяцев назад +3

      @@simulacrae You must be new here!

  • @EmpathVibe
    @EmpathVibe 5 месяцев назад +468

    Forget the product for just a second. This is one of the best reviews I have ever seen.

    • @badopinion
      @badopinion 5 месяцев назад +4

      Super appreciate the effort in this episode. 10/10 hats off

    • @reanimatorpl
      @reanimatorpl 5 месяцев назад +4

      What are you talking about? This the worst review on ytube. Focused on technicalities and philosophical stupid questions nobody asked instead of experience and real life everyday scenarios.

    • @pastuh
      @pastuh 5 месяцев назад

      Next: Quest3 vs Apple VR

    • @slodoco
      @slodoco 5 месяцев назад

      Until it's not :P

  • @scottzimmerman5153
    @scottzimmerman5153 4 месяца назад +4

    Echoing others - this is perhaps one of the best, if not the best, reviews I've ever seen. Complex tech explained succinctly - abstract implications presented sensitively - funny, thoughtful, informative. Chef kiss

  • @shahilllove
    @shahilllove 4 месяца назад +2

    I love this video! Thank you for sharing. I did the demo yesterday and didn’t think of half of what you said. Now I am thinking twice about it. One thing I did love is, they was able to match my prescription so I could see clearly

  • @yahyahmdllh
    @yahyahmdllh 5 месяцев назад +675

    Personas = basically Polar Express characters

  • @achebeterence6908
    @achebeterence6908 5 месяцев назад +519

    "Do you want to use a computer that is always looking at your hands?" That last question really got me lol. Man I've really missed Nilay's reviews.

    • @TheGlobalProfessional
      @TheGlobalProfessional 5 месяцев назад +3

      That was hilarious

    • @PatrykPonichtera
      @PatrykPonichtera 5 месяцев назад +5

      Or do you prefer the one that's always touching them?

    • @vascodagama6310
      @vascodagama6310 5 месяцев назад

      🤣🤣 fap fap

    • @rhadiem
      @rhadiem 5 месяцев назад +3

      Yep the hand-controller-centric design is going to be a flop. I say this having used VR since the Oculus DK1. Humans need dedicated controllers for things.

    • @Felice_Enellen
      @Felice_Enellen 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@rhadiem I think you missed the joke he was making. 😆
      🍆👋🏻

  • @chinwubaamadi
    @chinwubaamadi 5 месяцев назад +97

    Listen to me: This is the best Verge review of many to come with this Dude (Nilay Patel). Please do more; I enjoyed his sense of humor, adept review, and astute questioning. Do you want your computer ...?

    • @skiz-bg8cd
      @skiz-bg8cd 4 месяца назад +1

      Agreed this guy is a rad journalist.

  • @wolfie8012
    @wolfie8012 4 месяца назад +25

    The combined hand data from my Apple Watch and now Vision Pro will give Apple the exact length and girth.

    • @MarkTubeG
      @MarkTubeG 4 месяца назад +2

      Don't forget strokes per minute and heart rate.

    • @jamesrosewell9081
      @jamesrosewell9081 4 месяца назад +1

      Can't wait for it to start telling you how to optimize your stroke like it's a golf instructor

  • @okeynwachie
    @okeynwachie 5 месяцев назад +365

    Bro this the best review for this item so far. Every other reviewer has like a series planned because they know we won't get it for a while and trying to maximize engagement or whatever. Just show us everything dammit. Kudos.

    • @donoryan
      @donoryan 5 месяцев назад +8

      This guy is a professional complainer man. This is typical of his style.

    • @seegee9
      @seegee9 5 месяцев назад +36

      ​@donoryan I don't think this came across as complaining at all. Clearly it's not a perfect product

    • @Jovi_97
      @Jovi_97 5 месяцев назад +1

      I think people has a series planned on it mostly because it hasn’t been very long since they recieved it.

    • @varunkandhari4819
      @varunkandhari4819 5 месяцев назад +13

      MKBHD 😂

    • @Kimjongilmao
      @Kimjongilmao 5 месяцев назад +12

      @@donoryannah, this guy’s great. He’s just not willing to jump on the hype train like most other reviewers.

  • @GabrielEvans
    @GabrielEvans 5 месяцев назад +230

    After watching both MKBHD‘s unboxing, and Joanna Stern‘s review, seeing them all on the FaceTime call together felt like a tech nerd’s No Way Home

  • @dsw86
    @dsw86 5 месяцев назад +124

    "I ate a sandwich with this headset on" sounds mad dystopian yet I'm still intrigued overall 😂

    • @Soniti1324
      @Soniti1324 4 месяца назад +1

      Exactly _what_ part of that sounds dystopian?
      Eating a sandwich?
      Doing literally _anything_ with this headset on?
      There's *literally nothing* dystopian about that.
      If you wanted to make the argument that sitting alone in a dark room watching truedepth videos of your kids who died twenty years ago (ala Tom Cruise in Minority Report), then yes, _that_ is dystopian all day.
      But doing _anything_ with a headset on is not by its very nature dystopian.

    • @wellbi
      @wellbi 4 месяца назад

      "Thanks to Apple for providing me with free entertainment credits (And. making sure that all legalities in regards to the National Ministry of Desert are fulfilled.) to purchase some of the most interesting apps on the marketplace. I ate my usual daily ration grasshopper sandwich with this headset (Microfood Inc.. "Quarterpounder" if you are interested.) on with "Ham sandwich" AR skin (One of 37 available skins approved by the Ministry of Wellbeing so far.) and it really transformed the experience." This is dystopian.

    • @TayoEXE
      @TayoEXE 4 месяца назад +2

      ​@@Soniti1324I think you're taking this too seriously.

  • @oluwatayo.x
    @oluwatayo.x 5 месяцев назад +130

    Marques’ whispered “what?” at 28:25 had me laughing out loud😂😂

  • @SaschaPallenberg
    @SaschaPallenberg 5 месяцев назад +403

    just finished it. Absolutely fantastic review. Transparent, honest and exactly what I expected for a device that is supposed to be a game-changer. Thank you... especially to you art director who did an amazing job with this video!

    • @reckless1280
      @reckless1280 5 месяцев назад +10

      thank you! and yes our video team killed it!

  • @fatkid7236
    @fatkid7236 5 месяцев назад +259

    The head tilt at 27:26 is the greatest moment in any Verge review.

    • @KeithHeard
      @KeithHeard 5 месяцев назад +25

      The intense eye contact and the knowing lean in 😂

    • @Paul-qu4kl
      @Paul-qu4kl 5 месяцев назад +9

      Naughty Nilay!

    • @Sakuyushi
      @Sakuyushi 5 месяцев назад +3

      Nilay: Tim I knew what you were thinking

    • @evindrews
      @evindrews 5 месяцев назад +18

      apple: we have decided to discontinue the apple vision pro after learning what our users are using it for

    • @atiradentes
      @atiradentes 5 месяцев назад +4

      I can't BELIEVE I didn't get that. I feel ashamed.

  • @swerzer
    @swerzer 4 месяца назад +3

    "I get my work done with other people.....and I'd rather be out here with them". That says it all........

  • @NoahHerman
    @NoahHerman 4 месяца назад +1

    absolutely phenomenal job on this video! the Verge's production quality and analysis is always next level 🔥

  • @ilordepic
    @ilordepic 5 месяцев назад +121

    Ive seen many tech reviewers do reviews but this dude killed it goddamn

  • @SahajSingh
    @SahajSingh 5 месяцев назад +253

    Nilay, I have to say that you have the best takes in Tech. It's not that you understand tech, or understand software, or hardware, or UI, but you also understand why companies do what they do. The extra insight into the behind the scenes company thinking and strategy just adds a bit extra to your reviews. Thank you so much for your thorough review of this Apple device. You aren't just a tech enthusiast but also a tech futurist.

    • @JimboJones99
      @JimboJones99 5 месяцев назад +2

      God Bless Nilay 🙏📲🤙
      God Bless President Trump 🙏🇺🇸

    • @Nighthunt01
      @Nighthunt01 5 месяцев назад +7

      @@JimboJones99 Jimbo stop wasting time on RUclips, get back to work, how else are you going to help Trump pay his 83 million

    • @JimboJones99
      @JimboJones99 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@Nighthunt01 God Bless Nighthunt01 🙏🤙
      God Bless President Trump 🙏🇺🇸

    • @demeter-the-great
      @demeter-the-great 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@JimboJones99God bless the people who have broken away from the Trump cult. Wait, why are we even talking about this on a video about the Apple Vision Pro?! 😂😂😂

    • @elucified
      @elucified 5 месяцев назад

      Agreed, this review was absolutely wonderful and really helps people understand these sorts of products and their capabilities as well as their setbacks. Thanks Nilay!!!

  • @efenili
    @efenili 4 месяца назад +2

    The video playback at the end was giving my Minority Report vibes, especially with your music choice :D Also the facetime videos were giving me N64 Goldeneye vibes for sure.
    Thank you for touching on the loneliness part that is being passed over by so many other reviewers on YT. "I get my work done with other people and I'd rather be out there with them" is a seriously deep and important point. The world since the pandemic is a scary one regarding how we function as a social people and the vision for this feels like a step in the wrong direction as far as that is concerned....but as a VR headset to use sometimes at my desk - maybe :)

  • @AuthenTech
    @AuthenTech 5 месяцев назад +1

    I appreciate the candid honesty review, including both pros and cons. It's refreshing to hear re an apple product

  • @rotimika
    @rotimika 5 месяцев назад +144

    The FaceTime reminds of the scene from robocop 2 where the Kain showed his face 😂😂😂😂

  • @DannerBanks
    @DannerBanks 5 месяцев назад +280

    That narrower field of view compared to the Quest 3 is a huge miss

    • @rhadiem
      @rhadiem 5 месяцев назад +35

      Yeah that's a shock.

    • @Nadzap
      @Nadzap 5 месяцев назад +15

      Agreed, but also wondering if this may be more of a personal thing. I haven't heard any of the other reviewers talk about it.

    • @goinginzane
      @goinginzane 5 месяцев назад +26

      Forreal. FOV plays a huge part in immersion, it's crazy that all of Apple's engineering muscle couldn't get a wider FOV especially considering how bleeding-edge its screen tech is.

    • @Mi-lr1gw
      @Mi-lr1gw 5 месяцев назад +9

      @@goinginzane To think about it, the wider the view, the more pixel you have to put it to fill out the view. And I think they choose to put more clarify to it instead of POV. I mean, they call it "Spacial Computer", not VR headset so they want their device to be a topnotch display, not an immersive device.

    • @dieard1
      @dieard1 5 месяцев назад +10

      Thanks for this. Really informative!
      If I’m honest, it probably makes me appreciate my quest 3 more.
      There’s not really anything ground breaking here.

  • @pedromallol6498
    @pedromallol6498 4 месяца назад +1

    Dude, your coverage on this product and VR and showing the viewer what to expect in general is on the money. Thanks

  • @Retsom3D
    @Retsom3D 4 месяца назад +5

    It IS a Gen 1 device. So i really hope it gets better with more iterations.

  • @pedrojrram
    @pedrojrram 5 месяцев назад +122

    Quest 3 may not have the same resolution. But I feel like for the lower price, you get a lot more enjoyment then the vision pro has to offer.

    • @tonyenkiducx
      @tonyenkiducx 5 месяцев назад +7

      Might be higher res, but with a much smaller FOV and the detailed reviews I've seen of the pass-through say it is pretty poor compaired to the Quest 3.

    • @vvvios
      @vvvios 5 месяцев назад +3

      The Meta Quest is the best. The Vision Pro is only woe.

    • @akinwunmioluwaseun3772
      @akinwunmioluwaseun3772 5 месяцев назад +2

      It is terrible for that price. A meta headset at 75% of the price would have been way better

    • @nikl.astrophoto
      @nikl.astrophoto 5 месяцев назад +7

      Quest 3 also functions as a traditional VR device with game controllers. Like it or not, that remains the main selling point for now.
      MR as a productivity focus will very likely arrive some time when they are small and comfortable to wear for a full day. But the Vision Pro is clearly not there yet.

    • @opticalsalt2306
      @opticalsalt2306 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@nikl.astrophotoThe library for games doesn’t exist

  • @robertdart
    @robertdart 5 месяцев назад +44

    Personas are giving me strong GOLDENEYE on N64 and Max Payne vibes haha

    • @JohnScigulinsky
      @JohnScigulinsky 5 месяцев назад

      I was thinking the NHL videogame circa 2002, but Max Payne is actually a great comparison

    • @manuel0578
      @manuel0578 5 месяцев назад

      Not really. Marques is right when he says it looks more like a painting than a photo. Max Payne was a photo.

  • @greg_289
    @greg_289 4 месяца назад +3

    The cable is not permanently attached to the battery pack. There’s a release pin, presumably so they can sell replacements, or maybe higher capacity versions in the future.

  • @xanderharris5814
    @xanderharris5814 4 месяца назад +1

    This is strangely the best review of any electronic I have ever seen.

  • @jameslenney
    @jameslenney 5 месяцев назад +78

    I’m looking forward to the third iteration of this thing. Let’s see in 10 years.

    • @dr_zaius
      @dr_zaius 5 месяцев назад

      probably more like 4 years! I'd say they release a new model at least every two years

    • @teelo523
      @teelo523 5 месяцев назад

      They need to make it smaller and stylish which can be worn or implated throughout the day

    • @MachoMan_Vert
      @MachoMan_Vert 5 месяцев назад

      I'm eager to see Google or Samsung's response lmao.

  • @zvb7311
    @zvb7311 5 месяцев назад +139

    The editing went so hard in this video. Fantastic video showcasing all of the questions we could have about the device. Really great stuff!

  • @rcpmac
    @rcpmac 4 месяца назад +3

    Remarkable reviewer. Your depth of technical knowledge and articulation of what this is and what it isn’t and what it could be just blows me away. I’m impressed with the device ( not enough to want it) but more impressed with the reviewer

  • @devnol
    @devnol 5 месяцев назад +16

    The spacial video thing of watching your family videos all by yourself is kinda eerie and the haze reminds me a lot of the memory projector inside Riley's head from Inside Out

  • @Wynnsanity
    @Wynnsanity 5 месяцев назад +566

    Does the USB-C port on the battery function for data transfer and an HDMI output? or is it simply for power/charging?

    • @BonJoviBeatlesLedZep
      @BonJoviBeatlesLedZep 5 месяцев назад +210

      Just charging.
      EDIT: Seems like I misunderstood what he meant by not being able to share the experience. You can do so via AirPlay, which is great. Most TVs nowadays are AirPlay enabled.

    • @jonlebron
      @jonlebron 5 месяцев назад

      Screen mirroring is literally listed on the website.@@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep

    • @Wynnsanity
      @Wynnsanity 5 месяцев назад +29

      Thank you, every video I've watched so far seems to just be using the on-headset screenrecording. It doesnt seem that bad for short stuff, but long recordings or trying to do something may be impossible.@@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep

    • @markjason2
      @markjason2 5 месяцев назад +11

      @@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep ofcourse they will add that stuff, but you need to pay. It's apple,

    • @toddturner6
      @toddturner6 5 месяцев назад +24

      ⁠then he's wrong. It's been documented to have screenshare to mac or iPhone

  • @swapnilverma6758
    @swapnilverma6758 5 месяцев назад +45

    The intro is amazing, specially where Nilay grabs the vision pro

  • @AchyutChaudhary
    @AchyutChaudhary 5 месяцев назад +29

    *How generous of  Apple to offer a free Polishing cloth included with their headset...I don't get how the hell they manage to afford giving things out for free just like that!!* 😱😱

    • @MarkTubeG
      @MarkTubeG 4 месяца назад +3

      Right? I don't mind shelling out 10x what RAM and storage is worth. But I'll be damned if I'm going to buy a polishing cloth for this thing!!

  • @simpson6700
    @simpson6700 5 месяцев назад +10

    i think the biggest problem is that people want VR headsets to be everything at once, so they also have to compete with TVs, Computers, and phones all at once, a headset can't just be better than one of those devices.

    • @jacob476
      @jacob476 4 месяца назад +1

      for 3500 USD it better be all those things, and the best too

    • @simpson6700
      @simpson6700 4 месяца назад +1

      @@jacob476 and that's the problem, if it only had to compete with one of them it wouldn't have to be so complex. But for a lot of people simply having 3D goggles that are a monitor replacement isn't enough, they also have to have full color pass-through and face tracking and good audio, and a strong enough processor to be usable standalone, and the list goes on.

  • @Naomi_Katagaki
    @Naomi_Katagaki 5 месяцев назад +132

    27:24 HARDEST LINE FROM THE VERGE REVIEWS LOVE IT

    • @lilmario0
      @lilmario0 5 месяцев назад +5

      Yeah that part was very well done

    • @npcimknot958
      @npcimknot958 5 месяцев назад

      Took me a while to get the joke 😂😂😂😂😂😂 ya guys.. this might not be it😂

    • @laden6675
      @laden6675 5 месяцев назад

      It's all local though, that data doesn't leave your device

    • @Voidroamer
      @Voidroamer 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@laden6675 its not supposed to*
      data does a lot of things its not supposed to.. this could be the next epstien, haha

    • @ThePowerLover
      @ThePowerLover 5 месяцев назад

      @@Voidroamer Why the next Epstein?

  • @acaracaraorange7685
    @acaracaraorange7685 5 месяцев назад +78

    Layering effects onto the screen capture was a great idea, props to the team for that one

  • @liamcollinson5695
    @liamcollinson5695 4 месяца назад +2

    Im glad you said it starts at 3.5k because extras like a a better battery strap carrying case and more bring it closer to 5k

  • @ErrorIntended
    @ErrorIntended 5 месяцев назад +1

    Never new this was here but I have listened to the podcast for years

  • @snoozeshutter
    @snoozeshutter 5 месяцев назад +145

    It's a testament to how far we've come in video resolution and quality that we can see Nilay's contacts in the video

  • @CptHer
    @CptHer 4 месяца назад

    Can I just say that this was a superbly well done review video? I got put of by the Vision Pro after watching the first part of the video but I greatly enjoyed listening to the tester for the remaining video.

  • @JK-lq6og
    @JK-lq6og 5 месяцев назад +23

    I would like to see all those previews with the borders, reflections and blur. That would be closer to the real thing.

    • @Cap_management
      @Cap_management 4 месяца назад +2

      This one is the first review even mentioning the borders and tunnel view. Aka reviews are paid by Apple so not objective.

    • @nemou4985
      @nemou4985 4 месяца назад

      in the verge article you can see a simulation

    • @efenili
      @efenili 4 месяца назад +3

      It actually is a big deal. All reviews using the screen recorder are showing more than even the user can see which distorts what we actually think the experience is. The difference between the straight out of the box screen recording the the approximation that the Verge did here is huge.

  • @uncleren
    @uncleren 5 месяцев назад +206

    Smaller FOV than the quest? That's rough for $3500. Hard to sell immersion when looking through binoculars.

    • @k.vn.k
      @k.vn.k 5 месяцев назад +13

      It doesn’t look like looking through binoculars 😂 he was showing that for the purpose of explaining his point, it doesn’t look like that all if you care to watch the other segments of the video. You see none of the edges.

    • @blueboy3990
      @blueboy3990 5 месяцев назад +42

      ​@@k.vn.k bro has - 25 iq

    • @Humungojerry
      @Humungojerry 5 месяцев назад

      i believe it’s due to the lens choice they made

    • @k.vn.k
      @k.vn.k 5 месяцев назад +3

      @@blueboy3990 exactly my point but i am just being polite

    • @user-ef6nq4ud7g
      @user-ef6nq4ud7g 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@k.vn.ku don't see edges because it's a screen capture...

  • @Ren_0096
    @Ren_0096 5 месяцев назад +141

    The vision pro really highlights just how impressive the quest 3 is

    • @ilovedagreenday
      @ilovedagreenday 5 месяцев назад +12

      in what way

    • @JSilv3r
      @JSilv3r 5 месяцев назад +54

      @@ilovedagreendayfor one it’s a seventh of the cost 😂

    • @JackmanJackman-kk6tv
      @JackmanJackman-kk6tv 5 месяцев назад +8

      @@JSilv3rbut not better in no way

    • @tatianaes3354
      @tatianaes3354 5 месяцев назад +7

      @@JSilv3rit is so bad in comparison that the price difference looks perfectly justified

    • @ilovedagreenday
      @ilovedagreenday 5 месяцев назад +3

      @@JSilv3r I mean, yeah. It’s definitely less expensive. But I would be curious to see how close you could get to recreating the Apple Vision Pro for $500. I’m not saying you’re wrong, I just don’t know that it would be possible for that amount of money.

  • @dragosionescu1
    @dragosionescu1 4 месяца назад +1

    I'll just say what many other did before me. Excellent review, one of the best I've seen for a tech product. Bravo Nilay and The Verge. It's refreshing to see someone showing the good and the bad of the Vision Pro, not hiding its drawbacks when they're talking about Apple. This is how all the reviews should be!

  • @muttnick
    @muttnick 5 месяцев назад +3

    gotta try an idea to make sure it's a good one. that being said, apple has historically been the first for aesthetics capturing the market over hardware or softeware

  • @AlexanderRoux
    @AlexanderRoux 5 месяцев назад +89

    The production quality on this video is next level.

    • @pistopitpit
      @pistopitpit 5 месяцев назад

      Yea, it just screams buy me buy me buy me.

  • @BazilarMembrane
    @BazilarMembrane 5 месяцев назад +156

    Rarely post comments but this video absolutely deserves it. Brilliant work of all the people involved, amazing tech journalism as it is supposed to be.

  • @randomhuman69420
    @randomhuman69420 5 месяцев назад +1

    I really wanna see different profiles that can each be signed into with a different optical ID.

  • @jonnyhifi
    @jonnyhifi 4 месяца назад

    Superb video. Insightful, and the journalist is so eloquent witty, thoughtful, just the right pace etc . Masterful delivery . I didn’t think I’d stick such a long video about something I’m only passingly interested in - the product certainly didn’t make me but the masterful quality of the review did. Well done.

  • @user82938
    @user82938 5 месяцев назад +10

    I really don't like using hand tracking on the Quest 3. It just feels so much more efficient to use physical controllers.

  • @andrebecker7350
    @andrebecker7350 5 месяцев назад +117

    To the entire Verge team - what a great video! I can't imagine how much work it was to create it - but thank you for it! Thank you for the honest review of the device and the great visuals. Looking behind the marketing curtain of the AVP I now I have the feeling what this product is really about, how it works. You rock!

    • @Smorgasvord
      @Smorgasvord 5 месяцев назад

      Do I rock too?

    • @TheVerge
      @TheVerge  5 месяцев назад

      And from the entire Verge crew - thank YOU! 🙏

  • @hardyboy1959
    @hardyboy1959 4 месяца назад +9

    @ 04:00 As a Canadian, I can say having a warm headset is a definite selling point!

    • @randomdude1053
      @randomdude1053 4 месяца назад

      🇨🇦

    • @sebastianraaphorst5133
      @sebastianraaphorst5133 4 месяца назад

      As a Canadian, I can say that in the hot Canadian summers, having a warm headset when the temps are in the mid-30s is definitely not a selling point.

  • @KurtFeudaleKing
    @KurtFeudaleKing 4 месяца назад +3

    This review is AMAZINGLY HONEST and great. Well done sir.

  • @MickiMinach
    @MickiMinach 5 месяцев назад +172

    I know Nilay is busy with his job but I really wish he would come back every now and then for reviews. I miss the top tier Verge reviews during the Nilay-Dieter era.

    • @agavechillar3868
      @agavechillar3868 5 месяцев назад +13

      Yeah this really was an amazing review.

    • @TravisChalmers
      @TravisChalmers 5 месяцев назад +18

      I have zero interest in this product and couldn't stop watching. Spectacular video.

  • @Michael_Billig
    @Michael_Billig 5 месяцев назад +167

    I am yet to see ONE thing that has me like “I NEED that”

    • @ilovedagreenday
      @ilovedagreenday 5 месяцев назад +9

      Yeah, I would love to have one. But it doesn't fit my workflow in a way that I could justify the price. If I had more money lying around I could definitely appreciate what it does offer.

    • @stylestrydes8360
      @stylestrydes8360 5 месяцев назад +9

      You definitely don’t need one, but it really is worth trying out. Seeing spatial video is truly surreal and there are no words to describe how realistic it feels.

    • @Beautifulbrokenmusic
      @Beautifulbrokenmusic 5 месяцев назад +15

      especially at this price point. that's a hell of a lot of money for what is, let's be honest, a novelty right now.

    • @samuelhere41
      @samuelhere41 5 месяцев назад +2

      Yeah no, I am not fooling around with that kind of technology

    • @pratikxv
      @pratikxv 5 месяцев назад +1

      You obviously haven't watched the video , no vr motion sickness , watchng 3d videos , multiple windows etc etc , there are alot of features.

  • @hedgehoginmist
    @hedgehoginmist 4 месяца назад

    This is one of the best tech reviews I have ever seen - honest, thoughtful, funny

  • @bobcurry2417
    @bobcurry2417 4 месяца назад

    Great, thorough review. I’m excited…for Vision Pro 5, or 15.

  • @iamWing0w0
    @iamWing0w0 5 месяцев назад +98

    Mate, you've completely killed my desire of getting the Vision Pro, and I mean it in a good way. It's probably one of the best review this channel has done in recent years!

    • @letony93
      @letony93 5 месяцев назад +15

      With $3500, I rather get TV, a phone, a laptop and one more fking fridge 🎉

    • @Chexalim
      @Chexalim 5 месяцев назад +10

      ​@@letony93you could probably fit a quest 3 in that budget too xD

    • @minigiant8998
      @minigiant8998 5 месяцев назад +3

      @@letony93 this could potentially be worth a lot of money in the future unopened.

    • @barty8980
      @barty8980 5 месяцев назад

      Go watch Brian Tong’s Vision Pro Video and see what you think.

    • @Tarets
      @Tarets 5 месяцев назад +1

      ​@letony93 Why would you think anyone interested in a 3500$ headset does not have a TV, a phone, a laptop, and a fridge? You do realize the product is aimed at people that actually have money, right?

  • @Nytellem
    @Nytellem 5 месяцев назад +21

    This is my first time on this channel and damn the production and editing is crisp

  • @musthavechannel5262
    @musthavechannel5262 4 месяца назад

    I think I can confidently say that this is the best product reviews I have ever seen. Honest and informative.

  • @machos
    @machos 4 месяца назад +1

    Awesome Tech Review. I was fortunate enough to try the Vision Pro experience here in NYC after watching MKBHDs review. I went in excited and expecting something life changing. This review captured my feelings a lot more accurately. Awesome Technology but not there yet. Way to expensive as well.

  • @1dering11
    @1dering11 5 месяцев назад +80

    What’s the most important thing in your life?
    Him: my hairstyle.

  • @MuhammadKharismawan
    @MuhammadKharismawan 5 месяцев назад +22

    18:10 that capability is whats missing in most XR headset, multiple room pinning is important if you want this headset to not be such a hassle to use day to day, open apps in the correct place. easy to walk around with.
    i hope the demo in apple store would have that baked in so people can just walk around in store interacting with set windows.

    • @tonyh2596
      @tonyh2596 5 месяцев назад +2

      That sounds good in theory but in reality you going to get notifications each time something has moved in the room since the last time you put it on. On my Quest 3 this happens every time I put it back on so I just do a new room scale each time cause it's easier then trying to figure out what has moved

    • @pandaengine
      @pandaengine 5 месяцев назад

      Apple made an API to support multiple rooms not long ago. They will most definitely use it in the future features themselves.

  • @KAZAM707
    @KAZAM707 4 месяца назад

    Nilays reviews make me so anxious.

  • @blender_wiki
    @blender_wiki 4 месяца назад

    wow, the first time i see a professional review on the verge. congratulation.

  • @morzee94
    @morzee94 5 месяцев назад +118

    This is an excellent review of a product that’s fundamentally hard to review since it’s 1) very different to any product the viewers have and 2) Impossible to really show on a 2D video. I think the most important point is that VR headsets may never become mainstream regardless of how good the tech get. Well done Verge!

    • @jmiller6066
      @jmiller6066 5 месяцев назад +12

      I think a lot of AR/VR enthusiasts are honestly the tech's own worst enemy with the constant attempts to push them as fully replacing conventional interfaces instead of allowing them to be more specialized.
      Because while the tech is really cool and has some neat applications, conventional interfaces will still dominate, for the same reason accurate speech-to-text didn't replace keyboards.

    • @legaless5319
      @legaless5319 5 месяцев назад

      @@jmiller6066 i think it becomes a level of how good does it really get to be used in daily life. As it stands from here its a hard no, ive personally been a AR, VR fan for a long time buying a Occulus back when they first came out for gaming. but to implement something like this into daily life isnt impossible but i believe we just arnt there yet. Once it gets to a point of, it making life so much easier to the point of efficiency then it will be used. As we no longer press the number pad on our phones 3 times to get the correct letter to type a message. It would need to be at a point of the film Ready Player One. And i also dont believe this will happen for another decade or two due to companies refusing to work together to benefit the technological progress of this industry.

    • @extofer
      @extofer 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@jmiller6066your last point hit the nail on the head. This isn’t reinventing the wheel. It’s a wheel with several extra steps.

  • @charithkaushalye480
    @charithkaushalye480 5 месяцев назад +91

    Quite possibly one of the best product reviews I've seen in a really long time.

  • @milohdd
    @milohdd 4 месяца назад

    The AVP reminds me of the original Rift, it's a new way of thinking about VR and the tech is *just* good enough to make the concept work, but not without serious compromises. Hopefully this is the start of a new generation of devices like it.

  • @mathewomolo
    @mathewomolo 5 месяцев назад +1

    I am saving for version 5.

  • @MrTalhakhan01
    @MrTalhakhan01 5 месяцев назад +32

    This review did the justice to Vision pro. Very honest and very realistic review. Exactly what I needed to know about, the FOV, the pixelation, the latency, the little tradeoffs, the amazing things which actually work.. props to the team and this guy

  • @sourrlemons
    @sourrlemons 5 месяцев назад +64

    "Do you want a computer where you can't show others what you're looking at?"
    *yes*

    • @theflightclub7969
      @theflightclub7969 5 месяцев назад +2

      Privacy!!!!!

    • @rhadiem
      @rhadiem 5 месяцев назад +2

      I want a computer where I can show someone else who has their own headset what I'm looking at. Ultimately AR/VR headsets are going to be like phones, everyone will have one. They're not designed long-term to include outsiders.

    • @sourrlemons
      @sourrlemons 5 месяцев назад

      @@rhadiem you know what would be really cool? being able to record stuff going on inside your vision pro with your iphone. that would be dope.

    • @davidmule4113
      @davidmule4113 5 месяцев назад +1

      “Sir, this is a Starbucks”

  • @lukeh990
    @lukeh990 4 месяца назад +1

    This is an incredible review. Not afraid to point out the flaws. I knew when apple announced this product they knew they had the most advanced pass through and hand tracking in the industry. I hope that Apple continues to pour money into the spacial computing program and that eventually we see a no compromises device.

  • @1lebedev
    @1lebedev 4 месяца назад

    Such a professional review. So grateful Verge’s tech journalism exists. Thanks for the video

  • @ahabibe
    @ahabibe 5 месяцев назад +40

    1:47 such a clean transition

  • @seanfindley1428
    @seanfindley1428 5 месяцев назад +45

    Amazing review! I love how in depth it was. Enough detail for experienced VR users (like myself, a quest 2 owner) while also covering all baseline stuff for new comers.
    I think you summed it up well at the end. I think most people's minds will be blown when they put it on (rightfully so) but at the end of the day who wants to wear a heavy headset for hours on end? I love what my Quest 2 can do but after the initial few weeks with the device I only occasionally comeback to it.

    • @AngryApple
      @AngryApple 5 месяцев назад +3

      Yeah and also you come back because of actual fun applications. The Vision Pro has none of them.
      It has Work stuff and Movies.

    • @Kenbark42
      @Kenbark42 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@AngryApple Yeah because the Rift had so many "fun" apps when it launched too. /s

    • @AngryApple
      @AngryApple 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@Kenbark42 more than the Apple Vision Pro. Even first encounter is better than anything on the Vision Pro

    • @Kenbark42
      @Kenbark42 4 месяца назад

      @@AngryApple Sounds like you alr4eady have the perfect product for you! Congratulations and enjoy your rift man.
      Very special

    • @AngryApple
      @AngryApple 4 месяца назад

      lol@@Kenbark42

  • @arthururatani6827
    @arthururatani6827 4 месяца назад +8

    This was a fantastic review in so many ways. The production values, effort, and this dude's thoughtfulness really shone through. I came to the RUclips source video just to like and comment, I was so impressed.

  • @stephclaa3078
    @stephclaa3078 5 месяцев назад

    Good use case testing. Live the video for once ❤ very good review and info that actually is important

  • @adrianfox7972
    @adrianfox7972 5 месяцев назад +6

    Please do a Quest 3 vs Vision Pro video, great to hear things through a practical point of view in this video!