A Packers Fan Reacts to the Lukas Van Ness Draft Selection
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- Опубликовано: 26 апр 2023
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Reacting to the Packers 1st round selection in the 2023 draft
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Last time the Packers took a first round pass rusher who didn't actually start in college it worked out just fine! (Clay Mathews, if you don't know)
That's a really interesting fact about Matthews.
Why are people so caught up on "didn't start". It's just how Iowa operates. Seniors start regardless of skill.
@@cvrbon6
I think it just surprises people that a 1st round draft pick didn't start...simple as that. Even Gutey said it's unusual. Sounds like he was highly productive though.
'Starting' is literally one play.
If he can blossom into a potential star the way Gary did, then we will have our replacement for P. Smith when his time is up. It's not a bad pick, I'm still hoping we get a pass catcher in the second round.
Yep
Jalen Hyatt or we riot
Michael mayer
@@JL95 Hyatt and Washington 🤞
I did like this pick. I had him above Murphy. I was hoping for a trade down, but I get it. I'm totally fine without JSN
same I had jsn at 1 and vann ness at 2 I want vann ness because the run defense could use it and a coming off injured gary and older preston smith he will be a nice fit it seems like a safe pick I was fine with this
We wouldn’t get him if we traded down, no way he made it past the patriots
I was screaming super happy about this he was in my top 3 edges
Obviously, he is top 3
Lol for the 13th pick he better be top 3
Loch Ness MONSTER!!!
Vintage green bay
If we do not have a top 5 defense with 9 first round picks, blow the whole team up
Best comment here and literally the most on point….. this Lukas kid and stokes and darnless and Gary and Wyatt and walker all ebtter go off
We won’t… we should’ve fired bum Barry
@@Gloo-packk packers don’t make good decisions like that
Packers not blowing anything up
Bit biased bc I used to play hockey with him. But I think it’s solid for what the packers need especially with the run on edges in the late 1st
We got a beast. And tight end is a deep position. That's what she said
Im really excited about this pick, I would have love jsn, but I liked lukas alot.
Jaxon smith njigba woulda been nice
What ya gonna say when you see that he’s a bust????
He’s a slot guy…my gosh..Packer fans..
Yeah I gotta say there’s a higher chance Van Ness is a bust vs JSN
@peterteacher3681 AND WE NEED A SLOT RECEIVER
@@peterteacher3681Yes we Need a slot guy…
Aaron Kampman 2.0 solid pick
Id bet the pack have known for weeks this was their guy. Also possibly a reasoning into why the Rodgers trade was held up.
Gute needed to secure 13 ahead of Belichick as seems Patriots wanted Van Ness.
But thats controversial.
Love the pick
Screams Green Bay Packer
Nice trio of Smith Van Ness Enagbare until Gary back full force.
Generally speaking I dislike using first round picks on WR. Too many busts and too many excellent WRs come from lower rounds.
They better knock it outta the park the next two days with offensive weapons because this defense has got too much help over the years
Yes
Love the depth pick
From Iowa here and he very good player
I would have liked JSN,but LVN is an amazing Pick
This guy is a beast
Very happy with the pick here!! TE, WR, S, OL next
The facts people seriously convinced themselves GB would draft JSN or a TE at 13 (let alone the 1st round) is hilarious. When will y'all learn? Don't even know your own franchise. The M.O. BEEN like this for 30 years. Catch up!
That’s true I wanted Brian Branch since we need safety especially since we didn’t address it in free agency they draft someone that isn’t even gonna start now😭
But but in Madden
We're frustrated with the MO. You need to catch up.
@@Imback1214 they’re trying to resign amos and either safetys from illinois are good. Plenty of good WR, TEs and S’s available still and we’ll get 2 of them in the 2nd round
@@jriamyou8156 No shit. So am I. But I'm not the one thinking it's gonna change and being shocked and pissed when it doesn't.
Anyone saying this was a bad pick doesn’t know a damn thing. This guy would of went in the teens. He was a 1st rounder 100/100 times. Great player, good pick
Yes. If he stayed in college he could have been number one overall
I like the pick. We can get a receiver and tight end in the second. Funny that the Packers and Jets both took edge players. I thought both would have gone O line first. The hamstring issues, lack of speed and separation and playing at Ohio State where usually the QB had a lot of time to throw, I just am not as high on JSN as a lot of people are. He's not Justin Jefferson.
21 years old
Huge W imo
Constant defensive 1st round picks for a suckhole defense.... Yaya! And again the wr I wanted went to Seattle. Could you imagine dk Metcalf and davante with Rodgers!? Geno going to look like a genius
So many players left on the board for day two. Branch, Washington, laporta, Hyatt…
Matt landers we need
Just watched an Iowa hawkeye pod cast and they said they were surprised he went in the first they thought at best he was a 3rd rounder
Honestly not a bad pick, edge is a big need (potentially our biggest) and hes got big upside, classic gute reach and this time not for a projected 3rd rounder. Ill take it
Hoping for a good TE at least tomorrow. We can run the ball, but need more reliable offensive targets.
Don't know why you were upset about Quay. He was our best defensive player last year (besides the mistakes).
I'm concerned more about Devante Wyatt's snap count.
Idk how to feel bout this pick. Like it’s not ideally what I wanted, but I’m not mad at it yk
Better than good edge player who might even be better playing inside. Second round will have good receivers available like possible mingo or rice even tillman.
I saw both of your guys on film tonight. Myles is huge. 6'5", 275, Van Ness is in the Watt class, power, technique, and I saw some extra stuff that should put him up in the leaders of the position.
Myles has to grow into his body, but after weight training and a year or two, definitely Reggie White's class edge rusher and near unstoppable.
Terrible take Chris
Calling any rookie 'definitely Reggie White's class' is a stretch. Reggie is probably the best DE to ever to play the game.
@@XxMonkeyman3831xX
hey monkeyman, man what are you talking about a terrible take??
What? In the Watt class? the Watt brother wasn't a whole lot big, but they had smarts, technique, drive, and motivation I see the same thing in Van Ness. What?
Myles is just as I described. His NFL experience is going to be a whole lot different, and he is going to have to learn the game. he not kicking butt to start on NFL OTs. So that's what I meant by that. So, what are you talking about a terrible take? Set yourself straight.
Hey, the Packers just got Hercules. What is not to like about getting Hercules?
Top 3 edge with a ton of upside in a weak draft. Its good.
Packers doin packer things in the draft lol
Leaving the live stream for the reaction video
Josh downs, and a TE in second round let’s get it
I would've rather had oline. Don't hate the pick but I think there's more depth at edge than o line. Don't hate it tho. Didn't really want a first round wr. Want a tight end and o line in round 2. Maybe wr in 3
Not the guy I was expecting but Myles Murphy slipped for real and it makes 0 sense to me but this proves the importance of working out at the combine. Had Myles worked out I believe he is still looked at as a top 15 player in this class but he did not play their games and it cost him a higher spot in the order. He did good though landing on a hot young roster . He will be great where he landed. I liked Lucas Van Ness about as much so I am with you and do not hate this pick .
The entire trade with the Jets was not being held up about anything to do with Aaron Rodgers . The two teams were fighting over Lucas Van Ness. The Jets drafted a Packers favorite at 15 so it looks like the two teams had eyes on the same players here. I think what we found out tonight is the entire trade hold up had nothing to do with Rodgers at all . They were trying to decide which one got this Edge guy. I love the pick but wish it was Murphy. I'll take it though. Van Ness puts in the work and we are looking at a scary player for this team.
Do not sweat it man . i will eat this bet because i wish I was not write about it either really. . So if you want . Let's call this bet a draw and settle things next draft when we argue about something so much better to cover than Aaron Rodgers ! I love your show my online friend and am just happy we could clear the air before the draft. Next year let's to competing mocks or something and do a player to player competition or something nuts . I know it could be a fun way to settle pre draft grudges and silly commentary and move forward as united Packers fans. We all just want to win in the end anyways. But i also know I have to work on my delivery when I write in these chats online. At least so I do not seem like such a jerk yelling at you from the cheap seats. If we do a open beer betting competition put some suds in the game or hell any legal buzz worthy item if you want to be less boring than beer. I will try my best not to be so obtuse when i counter your video points moving forward . I appreciate your coverage last night and look forward to the rest of the draft. GO PACKERS!
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We can't take a slot receiver at 13 with so many holes on the roster. Look for Gutey to trade back. Lukas Van Ness + an extra 2nd round pick this year is waaaay more impactful than JSN. We are in the WINNING business. Getting beat up in the trenches every year in the playoffs because we prioritize finesse players is not wise.
Power running quarterbacks with elite speed are changing the landscape of the NFL If you want to win, you have to get QB's on the ground and your defense off of the field. Taking JSN at 13 is a doomsday scenario for me because he's not appreciably better than Addison, Flowers, and a few others that are available later in the draft. Here are some of my best mocks with accepted trade offers generated by the system:
23 - Lukas Van Ness (EDGE)
x - Bryan Bresee (DT)
x - Dalton Kincaid (TE)
x - Zack Kuntz (TE)
x - Sam Laporta (TE)
x - Jonathan Mingo (WR)
POST RD1
Draft to beat the Eagles. They are the gold standard on how to build a dominant team. The NFC championship will go through them. Grab both Washington and Mayer if possible and then load up on O&D-linemen. Don't prioritize RAS necessarily, just draft big heavy guys that can't be moved off of either side of the line of scrimmage. Then fill in our defensive specialist positions (DB & LB). I'd be okay if we draft only 1 WR in this draft. I do want 3 tight ends though.
Yey ! I can buy a jersey to change my 12
Jsn or Gonzalez should’ve been the pick but gute goes full gute and tried to prove he knows more than everyone else pick was still a reach tho
I think Lukas Van Ness has tremendous upside.. What I cannot comprehend is why the Packers neglect to get their quarterbacks immediate help?
I understand we have Watson, Doubs, Toure, Cotton, and Metlon
BUT we are currently a Watson injury away from playing practice squad guys....
I fully understand we will address this in the 2-3 rounds, but why can't we for once go out and get those JJetas type guys that are available early? JSN/Zay Flowers could have had tremendous upside with the packers and we stilllllll go defense first every year.
Lets see how Joe Barry ruins this one.
Can we trade Joe Barry today?
We'll see.
Still hope we trade up into the 1st with 45
Nah wouldn’t even make sense because we would have to send both 2nds which isn’t even worth it at that point
@@brandon54 probably true but I still just would’ve wanted JSN with Watson and doubs
If we’re gonna keep going defense why not get a PROVEN DC‼️that’s what us fans don’t understand
I don’t get why it is so important to so many fans to draft a WR in the 1st. If you’re still getting 1st-round-caliber talent outside the 1st round, why does it matter? It’s not like Jennings/Nelson/Jones/Adams/Watson were scrubs. If given a re-draft those guys might all be picked higher.
Yed
once again The Three Stooges failed miserably.
much like Gary this guy would have been available later and they could have got extra draft picks.
here's an idea get difference makers on offense and outscore people instead of our pathetic defense being counted upon.
jsn was the obvious pic and you could have got a edge rusher from Kansas State in the second
they must get tight end and Jonathan mango
I would of rather picked nolan smith better
He's 6'2" 230. That's a safety, not an on ball player. How well was he going to set the edge against NFL caliber tackles that outweigh him by 100 pounds. He would have been road kill. He was somewhere around the 6th edge guy taken and barely made it into the 1st round.
Clemson has had some defensive busts
Our season will be over if we don't draft a QB because Love ain't going to do shit for us!
He had 6 sacks last year ….
Did he even start?
Sacks aren't everything. He led the BIG 10 in pressures, which are arguably more important
Have we ever gotten what we wanted in the draft. No, that’s why we don’t go to the fuckin Super Bowl
Don't speak for everybody. I'm extremely happy with the pick.
We just had two teams that were good enough to win the super bowl but some of our best players failed to get it done. I don't agree with everything the front office does but you can't say we weren't in position to win it.
Lucas Van Ass would have been there in the 2nd, but i expected nothing less from this P.O.S. front office!
And for a guy that wasn’t even a starter ! Regime needs to change .
I'm going to bed disappointed 😢
Van Ness beat Murphy for year 1 production.
I’m annoyed I wanted jsn
Why??? JSN is sub par for a 13th overall.
A guy who is projected to be a slot only receiver. He wouldn't even be on the field for half their formations. In the 1st round? In a draft that is full of slot only receivers.
@@chadh.johnson3550Packers need slot wr
I’m disappointed
Big surprise… same ole Pack
This is going to be exactly like the JJ Watt in 2014
🙄
Not happy. He could be good...but damn why not any else. Nolan made so much more sense with 2 Georgia Boys that he played with. Fn wish we would go offense for fuckin once
At least maybe they can reduce the run game.. nah...lol. now they have to stop Gibbs and Addison. The lions will be hard to beat for the next decade.
@Jeffery T its the defense I worry about. Still need major upgrades in the secondary.
We traded up for no reason bro
Uh. Pats and Steelers would have taken him easy bust proof pick
we didn't trade up 😂
@@jakewettengel7708 he's talking 1st round swap in the Rodgers trade
@@coletrain9173 ya ik I'm just saying this was actually a really good pick
You sound like your trying to convince yourself this was a good pick lol. Disappointed to say the least. I wanted JSN.
Classic green bay smh
Dean Lowry Jr lmao
🤣🤣🤣
Because they are both white?
He plays just like Lowry. Useless until reads 3-4
I don't like myles Murphy
We could’ve went edge in the second at 45th ... WR would’ve solidified that WR group and Njigba was the perfect slot candidate . Luke van ness is a bullrusher ... yes his ceiling is high because he can learn like Gary ... by why do we keep drafting developmental players instead of drafting ready to go players ... Jesus Christ this organization sucks . Gute needs to be fired dude . Packers need a slot WR and Jaxon was sitting their just waiting dude ... I would’ve even been happy with a TE ... Luke is not a top 15 pick
Hes not even a top 50
@@Hondo132 😂 who? LVN? Your crazy
@@Hondo132 wtf are you talking about
Gute has hit on almost every single first round draft pick. Shut up
@@Hondo132 yeah you are crazy .. Luke van ness had a RAS score of 9.78 he was most definitely gone after 13th overall
We haven’t drafted a receiver in the first round since 2003 this is a joke of a pick and I’m tired of this team
Javon Walker was a bust. Packers been drafting studs in the second for like decades…
If it aint broke dont fix it
@@RedMo46 WR Christian Watson
WR Romeo Doubs
WR Samori Toure
WR Bo Melton
TE Josiah Deguara
We have these guys on our receiving core and you draft a guy who didn’t even start for Iowa 🤣😂
@@MichiganJFrog-yz9qw cmon yall use google... if youre a senior at Iowa, you start. Period. LVN wasnt a senior its that simple. When youre on the field, youre a starter.
I like JSN ... bad pick ... bad pick
Another weak DL.
Lame ! Another average defensive player to add to there below average defense.
Terrible pick
He hasn’t even played a snap yet 😂 fans are so dumb
What a terrible pick, good player, sure... but we have almost zero talent and depth at receiver and tight end, fire Gute, get him out
Edit: Even better!!! This guy NEVER STARTED A GAME at Iowa!!!!! We took a one dimensional player in the first round... I can't believe how stupid the Packers continue to be
Calm down, Mr. GM
You don't take depth players in the first round, and you don't risk a first on a TE. There's plenty of time to fill those spots out day 2. We'll be fine.
@@lswan1487 Van Ness..... is a depth guy...
@@Hondo132not to start the year, and probably not next year.
Dump Mark Murphy and Guty !!!! Sick of your lame-ass picks
The Packer's GM loves giving the fans the middle finger every year in the 1st round. They literally never draft the guy that the fans want or makes too much sense. They love to reach on potential upside players whoare kinda under the radar. I kinda get it, but for crypes sake! Just give us a pick we lose our heads over just once!!!
And this is why the packers are one of the best franchises in NFL history
@@coopercollins1780 We only won 1 super bowl in 25 years