Can a Short Arm create Higher Velocity?

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  • Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
  • Joe Kelly describes his mechanics and the transformation he made from a longer arm path to a shorter one, both for health, consistency and velocity reasons.
    My pitching mechanics discussion with Joe Kelly.
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Комментарии • 37

  • @joeylaurer5350
    @joeylaurer5350 Год назад +74

    The way Joe terms certain mechanical cues is fascinating. Nothing scientific just simple concepts that make sense to him.

    • @PitchingNinjaVideos
      @PitchingNinjaVideos  Год назад +5

      Totally agree!

    • @ChicagoBears2121
      @ChicagoBears2121 Год назад +2

      Totally agree. I think the cues are his mental feeling to did this feel right. Is that my trigger etc… really great interview

    • @drbonesshow1
      @drbonesshow1 Год назад

      @@PitchingNinjaVideos Totally agreeing with nonsense. Sounds familiar on Pitching Numb-ja. Dead from the neck up.

  • @Wo1fLarsen
    @Wo1fLarsen Год назад +9

    I needed Joe as my college pitching coach 25 years ago!

    • @michaelwolf6424
      @michaelwolf6424 11 месяцев назад

      So did I, only longer. I never knew how to spot or control a 94/95 mph fastball. Back when I was in college, the advice was. . "just REAR back and THROW that heater, son." Sure, shit. The most frustration I've ever known in life.

  • @Danimal.69
    @Danimal.69 Год назад +21

    I think the most important takeaway is that he spent so much time thinking about his mechanics and the feel .

    • @clb3728
      @clb3728 Месяц назад

      You just made such a wise statement. Actions are shaped by our thoughts.

    • @Danimal.69
      @Danimal.69 Месяц назад

      @@clb3728 the last year, I have been thinking that the mental game is far more important than the physical game. As a coach, I seen more progress teaching fundamentals while being in the mental mentality/ flow state than doing it the hard way . The hard way being push drill after drill.

  • @da9004
    @da9004 Год назад +2

    Loved it when he says that’s not it, try again and that’s not it, again that’s not it. That’s a feeling that takes a lot of time to get and be able to repeat it.

  • @joksal9108
    @joksal9108 Год назад +8

    Short arming the ball-they used to say that’s how you hurt yourself. Apparently not! If it’s more efficient mechanically then you’re less likely to hurt yourself. As a musician I can see how it applies to what I do-what’s best mechanically may not look the best, the most graceful.

    • @markeastridge9649
      @markeastridge9649 Год назад +2

      In disc golf the amount of reach-back needed and comfortable with throwing is a big deal. I think too often in peer teaching a needless very long reach is pushed to the point of losing smooth reproducibility.

    • @MrFlippin24
      @MrFlippin24 Год назад

      Because most the power comes from legs and core strenght in pitching, very little from the arm . arm movement style makes less difference unless the guy is a drastic submarine pitcher

    • @TheRoadLessChosen
      @TheRoadLessChosen 5 месяцев назад

      @@MrFlippin24catchers use all arm. The majority of your speed comes from the arm and upper torso. The pelvis goes then the lower body and then the arms.

  • @lou2056
    @lou2056 Год назад +4

    Damn, looks like Joe linked up with Belli as soon as he made it into Chicago 🤣🚬

  • @jasonabernethy8424
    @jasonabernethy8424 Год назад +6

    I shorty armed the ball until my HS coach wouldn't allow it. Never had arm soreness while short arming. Contact got tendonitis and issues after using my whole arm. hitter had a arm time picking up the ball coming from my head. Harder to see

    • @mastod0n1
      @mastod0n1 Год назад

      I think I subconsciously short armed it while pitching. My arm was almost never sore the day after. I think I picked that up from being a shortstop when I wasn't pitching. I consciously worked on short arming it when playing shortstop. Probably affected my pitching mechanics without me realizing it.

  • @Tagiau
    @Tagiau Год назад +6

    Do you have any idea on when or if this whole interview will be uploaded somewhere? These are great as filler content while working.

    • @PitchingNinjaVideos
      @PitchingNinjaVideos  Год назад +3

      Here it is in podcast format if you wanna check it out! podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/pitching-ninja-show/id1606429794

  • @skylerschillinger3428
    @skylerschillinger3428 Год назад +2

    No one else notices how fucking huge the pupils are of the pitcher is? He is spitting big facts but dam what colors are his eyes?? Frreal

  • @thecheese8261
    @thecheese8261 Год назад +1

    Find this stuff incredibly interesting

  • @ozzuzzomg
    @ozzuzzomg Год назад +2

    its crazy how his fastball gets changeup spin '😭😭

  • @a535r2d2
    @a535r2d2 4 месяца назад

    Am I wrong to say that's not short arming the ball. It's short pathway, but when his front for lands his arm is at a 90degree like it should be.????

  • @TheCouchGM
    @TheCouchGM Год назад

    Really interesting

  • @Cynthionic
    @Cynthionic Год назад

    This is really interesting

  • @concisecontenttv
    @concisecontenttv Год назад +3

    Does the podcast address effectiveness of this change? Because I see a 2022 ERA of 6.08 and 23 walks in 37 innings. WHIP is up, HR per 9 is up, and the only improvement is K's per 9. So short arming may have resulted in less effectiveness despite better velo

    • @joshuagodfrey7453
      @joshuagodfrey7453 Год назад +3

      That would have to do more with pitch sequencing and execution.

  • @dereksupernaut
    @dereksupernaut Год назад

    Ivan Rodriguez and Billy Wagner threw the ball as hard as anyone ive seen, Billy Wagner claims he was a Dan Marino fan... fax!!!

  • @RisitasKEKW
    @RisitasKEKW Год назад +10

    Joe is the most boring epic player of all time

  • @foenem5291
    @foenem5291 Год назад +2

    dont try this at home. Joe kelly is an ELITE athlete. it will not be the same for a regular player

    • @CADClicker
      @CADClicker Год назад +1

      Plenty of guy have proven short arming is a viable path

    • @foenem5291
      @foenem5291 Год назад

      @@CADClicker ofc, i agree with the short arm path, its more consistent/healthier and simpler. Im just saying its not as simple as “just shortening up” when throwing 😅 its countless reps of drills…. but obviously we dont move like joe kelly, as he is an elite athlete.

    • @gamingonwheels2502
      @gamingonwheels2502 Год назад

      he is far from elite lol

    • @foenem5291
      @foenem5291 Год назад +7

      @@gamingonwheels2502 if you cant comprehend that he is an elite ATHLETE we are done here.

  • @bluehorseshoe444
    @bluehorseshoe444 Год назад

    Look at those blood shot eyes... looks like the guy's been smoking

  • @gamingonwheels2502
    @gamingonwheels2502 Год назад

    he is such a child lol