Thanks for the vid! I feel like all I've heard about him is the unreal deal and the skeptics take. Cool to see the description of the javelin and how he transfers that to baseball
the top talent in npb can definitely play in the mlb. The average npb guy though, maybe not so much but the stars and top players on each team are mlb level
Interesting stuff. Particularly the stuff about using the javelin throw to take strain off his elbow. Could this be a potential solution for the TJ epidemic?
Just me trying that motion feels less stressful on the entire arm compared to a more traditional throwing motion. Try ending the release way in front, it feels like you're throwing a dart and feels like a lot less stress on the elbow. I feel more strain in my bicep and pectoral which might be stronger compared to your UCL???? (maybe?) Could Yamamoto be on to something?
I think we all knew, the western audience I mean in particular that after the WBC and his outstanding performance he would be headhunted for an MLB team. He made the pros look twice at every pitch coming making them second guess
Yeah. I'm sure teams have been scouting him for years and then having seen him in the baseball classic just solidified his desirability in MLB, similar I'm guessing to Yu Darvish.
Ginoza curve ball was developed at Ginoza High School in Okinawa prefecture. Pitchers from Ginoza High School master how to pitch such a special type of curve ball. That's why it is called Ginoza curve.
Great video, man! Hopefully, we will see more short guys pitching. I can even argue that shorter guys' release point might be to their benefit. As hitters, in general, are so used to those 6'4+ release points, a release point under 6 feet might be even harder to hit.
Thank you for telling your audience about the Ginoza Curve ball. I learned it when I lived in Japan and tried it. But, I couldn't master it. It was so unnatural and counter intuitive. Anyone who can throw it for strikes is very impressive, IMHO.
His mechanics remind me of some of the kinesthetic principles that the late Dr. Mike Marshall tried to implement into notions of pitching, though his design seemed rather unyielding. Here, the drop and drive modifies the traditional kick and fire into an economical package. I like the manic dance steps, as seen in the shorts guessing at the pitchers identity by their individual motions, but this shape is interesting, too.
@@SpicyTrifongoand what are your basis to say that "he's gonna get rocked"? that "he's never thrown a pitch in MLB" or whatever baseless argument others like to throw too?
The curveball delivery looks to my untrained eye very similar to an off-spin/finger-spin delivery in cricket. It would be interesting to see a comparison of his curve against Muttiah Muralitharan who's the greatest off-spinner/bowler in cricket history (in my opinion)
I predict due to the seam difference in mlb vs japan that his splitter will actually get BETTER over here, and that his curveball might be slightly worse. Either way will be interesting to see how he uses his repertoire in the mlb
You can learn how to throw faster and at a longer distance also improving your mechanics by simply crow hopping. It's almost like that javelin throwing. That was how I learned to throw fast and improve mechanics. I used to throw out base runners stealing home and I would gun the ball to home plate directly to the catchers mitt, playing outfield.
I'm not sure if it was the Indians, but Bieber and Bauer were teammates there. It seems like I heard that organization was teaching the short arm method that the two aforementioned pitchers use. I saw another video, can't remember who posted it, he said the short arm delivery is terrible. Idk, seems like there's always phases.
I did a long review of his Arsenal based on his WBC stats. That’s with a MLB sized ball. It’s impressive. And Senga made a pretty smooth transition…with his ghost fork…which had the highest whiff rate of any pitch (over 300 pitches thrown) in the entire statcast era.
Pretty sure Driveline did that first. facebook.com/watch/?v=10155393298499546 I know Ben for YEARS...my son was perhaps Ben's legit first remote training pitcher. treadathletics.com/jack/
@PitchingNinjaVideos yeah! I saw the tread ninja jr breakdown from start to finish! Very cool and congrats with that. I was just saying this because driveline doesnt speak english, they speak analyticsese...lol the kevin foster interview was better than anything driveline has put out imo.
Anybody with a healthy body can achieve that flexibility, he had to consistently stretch for years to get to where he is. I haven't tried those advanced positions he's doing but do regularly do the upward dog position he's doing (upward arch with hands and feet on ground), great for the back & hamstrings(& more). The first times you do it you'll be lightheaded & might pass out if you come back down too fast & flatten or raise your head, but doesn't happen anymore at all.
Seems like he needs a lot of focus to pitch. Curious what's his numbers gonna look if say, there's a runner in first base? And oh, the pitch clock too!
More pitchers should take not of the javelin training. It'll prolong arms in that it teaches whole body throwing vs firing just the arm/shoulder/elbow.
Isn’t that just a screwball? Pronating to the glove side instead of the arm side with a breaking ball grip? Either way it’s nasty especially combined with that splitter.
Based on what? The guy has a full arsenal. There are plenty of pitchers with less variety who do even better in their 5th year than they did in their first couple years. It's way more likely that his first year will be his worst when you factor in the move from NPB to the MLB. He also needs to adjust to the batters here, it's not a one way street of them adapting to Yamamoto.
Sure MLB hitters will adjust to him. But he will adjust to the MLB hitters as well. So, saying "the hitters will adjust on him" "the pitchers will adjust on him" bla bla bla stuff is a total nonsense. Every pitcher adjusts to hitters and every hitter adjusts to pitchers. And every player tries to improve theirselves when they get adjusted. They are professional players you know.
Dude get a job with a team, you are spilling the beans for free. Great channel but you keep giving up the secrets. Those tunneling shots are uber valuable. You ruined Sonny gray for me last year man. As soon as you put up his mechanics, boom, dude was getting hit, same with my boy Devon Williams. You interview him about his change up than boom suddenly it’s hittable. Bro you are wrecking my fantasy teams, stop! JK love you man, great stuff.
I’ve seen as more bad/mediocre Japanese pitchers irabu, Ishii, dice k, igawa as good ones. So forgive me if I’m not handing the dodgers the pennant. Braves are still better.
Compare the guys you listed with Yamamoto's NPB Stats (for example, Dice K's ERA was about double that of Yamamoto's...who is one of the greatest Japanese pitchers of all time). Senga and Ohtani have done pretty darn well...and we also have much better scouting of arsenal's because we have actual Statcast data on his pitches...so we can predict how his pitches will look and act at the MLB level, unlike the eye test we used back in the day.
GIven how Lincecum and Pedro (to a lesser extent) couldn't maintain their elite velocity for that many years, the 12 year contract won't age well. Also similar in stature and age as Daisuke and he couldn't handle the workload in MLB. I imagine he'll be pretty good for at least a few seasons.
These decade long contracts almost never work in the back half but you have to offer the extra years so they don’t sign with another team who offers the longer contract
Yamamoto is litteraly a Pitching Ninja. 🥋
He’s the Dragon
Samurai.
wow!
Bro we don’t call American pitchers Pitching Rednecks
Thanks for the vid! I feel like all I've heard about him is the unreal deal and the skeptics take. Cool to see the description of the javelin and how he transfers that to baseball
I love that!
I seen this coming years ago. If you watch the NPB like you watch MLB, you'd know pitching in Japan is elite.
the top talent in npb can definitely play in the mlb. The average npb guy though, maybe not so much but the stars and top players on each team are mlb level
‘ Saw.’
Superb breakdown of Yamamoto’s pitching mechanics. Thank you!
thanks!
Agree! Well said!
I was bummed out about not seeing Ohtani pitch this year but looks like this guy will make up the loss. Let’s go Dodgers!
well said
You make the best analysis videos - thank you! Happy new year!
thank you! happy new year to you too!
Interesting stuff. Particularly the stuff about using the javelin throw to take strain off his elbow. Could this be a potential solution for the TJ epidemic?
確かに山本は怪我で離脱することがほとんどないのでこれを証明するかもしれません
山本もゲリット・コールに投げ方が似てる! 肘の負担が少ないように見える
Just me trying that motion feels less stressful on the entire arm compared to a more traditional throwing motion. Try ending the release way in front, it feels like you're throwing a dart and feels like a lot less stress on the elbow. I feel more strain in my bicep and pectoral which might be stronger compared to your UCL???? (maybe?) Could Yamamoto be on to something?
He will be a top pitcher in the MLB immediately. And yes please do lots of Yamamoto videos next year‼️
I think we all knew, the western audience I mean in particular that after the WBC and his outstanding performance he would be headhunted for an MLB team. He made the pros look twice at every pitch coming making them second guess
Yeah. I'm sure teams have been scouting him for years and then having seen him in the baseball classic just solidified his desirability in MLB, similar I'm guessing to Yu Darvish.
Well said
Lincecum mentioned. Makes me happy :)
I wish he signed with the Yankees so I could see a lot more of his games. I think he's going to be one of the more fun pitchers to watch.
Ginoza curve ball was developed at Ginoza High School in Okinawa prefecture. Pitchers from Ginoza High School master how to pitch such a special type of curve ball. That's why it is called Ginoza curve.
Can’t wait for the season to start again
Great video, man! Hopefully, we will see more short guys pitching. I can even argue that shorter guys' release point might be to their benefit. As hitters, in general, are so used to those 6'4+ release points, a release point under 6 feet might be even harder to hit.
He doesn't drop low like other short guys, he kinda just moves sideways and there's no rhythm to it you can time
Thank you for telling your audience about the Ginoza Curve ball. I learned it when I lived in Japan and tried it. But, I couldn't master it. It was so unnatural and counter intuitive. Anyone who can throw it for strikes is very impressive, IMHO.
I’m looking forward to seeing him pitch in the big leagues
His mechanics remind me of some of the kinesthetic principles that the late Dr. Mike Marshall tried to implement into notions of pitching, though his design seemed rather unyielding. Here, the drop and drive modifies the traditional kick and fire into an economical package. I like the manic dance steps, as seen in the shorts guessing at the pitchers identity by their individual motions, but this shape is interesting, too.
he's gonna get fucking rocked in the MLB in 3 years after pitching 1/4 season and getting TJ
@@SpicyTrifongoand what are your basis to say that "he's gonna get rocked"? that "he's never thrown a pitch in MLB" or whatever baseless argument others like to throw too?
@@Koyomimatic he's tim lincecum sized and he ain't tim lincecum.
He’s got that flexibility and “loose muscle” like ichiro. I think that’ll benefit his arm health.
The curveball delivery looks to my untrained eye very similar to an off-spin/finger-spin delivery in cricket. It would be interesting to see a comparison of his curve against Muttiah Muralitharan who's the greatest off-spinner/bowler in cricket history (in my opinion)
A well put video. Get a glimpse of Yamamoto's training and technique. Interesting.
i heard he was good, now i see, he really good.
I predict due to the seam difference in mlb vs japan that his splitter will actually get BETTER over here, and that his curveball might be slightly worse. Either way will be interesting to see how he uses his repertoire in the mlb
you think?
He got that Pedro Martinez arsenal
He's merging techniques from baseball and cricket, effectively. He's going to redefine the sport.
Can’t wait til the season starts, hopeful that Tyler G will also perform good
Cy Young in his first mlb season.
That curveball really looks like it takes someone with his kind of flexibility to throw.
Pedro as an Expos is something else.
Oh please!!! We will see!! One of these
MLB hitters are gonna crack that ball
Whoa a back handed curveball?? 🤯
You can learn how to throw faster and at a longer distance also improving your mechanics by simply crow hopping. It's almost like that javelin throwing. That was how I learned to throw fast and improve mechanics. I used to throw out base runners stealing home and I would gun the ball to home plate directly to the catchers mitt, playing outfield.
Bauer started to use a slide step in his newest video
Hmm, javelin-style training seems awesome!
I'm not sure if it was the Indians, but Bieber and Bauer were teammates there. It seems like I heard that organization was teaching the short arm method that the two aforementioned pitchers use. I saw another video, can't remember who posted it, he said the short arm delivery is terrible. Idk, seems like there's always phases.
ive read the baseball is sticker and smaller in japan, doesnt that translate into less spin/movement/control for him in the MLB?
We’ve seen many Japanese pitchers come over and be great. Yamamoto should have no issues adjusting.
Yamamoto used the MLB ball in the WBC and there was extensive tracking of his pitch movement - it was still great.
I did a long review of his Arsenal based on his WBC stats. That’s with a MLB sized ball. It’s impressive. And Senga made a pretty smooth transition…with his ghost fork…which had the highest whiff rate of any pitch (over 300 pitches thrown) in the entire statcast era.
Yamamoto’s Arsenal with an MLB sized ball. ruclips.net/video/k90AVHUwhgE/видео.html
Not exactly stickier. They use textured leather for the baseballs.
Rob should have shouted out the tread athletics boys, who were the first to deep dive into javelin for baseball training in the english speaking world
Pretty sure Driveline did that first. facebook.com/watch/?v=10155393298499546 I know Ben for YEARS...my son was perhaps Ben's legit first remote training pitcher. treadathletics.com/jack/
@PitchingNinjaVideos yeah! I saw the tread ninja jr breakdown from start to finish! Very cool and congrats with that.
I was just saying this because driveline doesnt speak english, they speak analyticsese...lol the kevin foster interview was better than anything driveline has put out imo.
Anybody with a healthy body can achieve that flexibility, he had to consistently stretch for years to get to where he is.
I haven't tried those advanced positions he's doing but do regularly do the upward dog position he's doing (upward arch with hands and feet on ground), great for the back & hamstrings(& more). The first times you do it you'll be lightheaded & might pass out if you come back down too fast & flatten or raise your head, but doesn't happen anymore at all.
Yamamoto 体重移動がうまいです
全身使ってボールに力を伝えるのが上手です
Tread rocks!
🔥🔥🔥
There’s going to be thousands of kids blowing their arms out trying to emulate this action
I worry about him throwing with a larger, heavier ball and more often since it’s a 5-man pitching rotation.
Seems like he needs a lot of focus to pitch. Curious what's his numbers gonna look if say, there's a runner in first base? And oh, the pitch clock too!
More pitchers should take not of the javelin training. It'll prolong arms in that it teaches whole body throwing vs firing just the arm/shoulder/elbow.
Over/under 4.0/era for Yamamoto in 2024?
Under.
Is that a bat he's packing upside down?
He is like Greg Maddux.
Ginoza Curveball you said?
*calls up the local Japanese restaurant and orders Gyoza*
👍👍👍
His curveball originated in a small village in Japan. 😂
That's why it's so hard to see, it doesn't even come from the mound.
Bro I pitch similar to him
Isn’t that just a screwball? Pronating to the glove side instead of the arm side with a breaking ball grip? Either way it’s nasty especially combined with that splitter.
Are you talking about his curveball? No, it's not a screwball...look at the spin. It has typical curveball spin, with horizontal/glove side break.
Roki will get 400mill if and when he comes over.
Let’s just wait and see. Remember a lot of similar hype when Matuzaka was debuting with the Red Sox
The exact opposite will occur. Who would you have them copy instead (all the guys who currently blow out their elbows)?
👍
あ
Japanese version of...THE FREAK 😮
I just hope the Dodgers doesn't try to tweak much of his mechanichs and training. Edit: don't*
For that kind of money you assume you're buying a complete product and if it ain't broke don't fix it.
I’d love ta see hammer overlays of prime Zito, Kersh, & Yoshi on vertical break. Kersh USED to have way more in his prime. 🤔🤷♂️
I think Yamamoto will be successful in his first year, but I predict his numbers will decline by 3rd/4th year as MLB hitters get to know him.
Based on what? The guy has a full arsenal. There are plenty of pitchers with less variety who do even better in their 5th year than they did in their first couple years.
It's way more likely that his first year will be his worst when you factor in the move from NPB to the MLB. He also needs to adjust to the batters here, it's not a one way street of them adapting to Yamamoto.
Hmm... you could say that abt any pitcher, the matters is how he'll gonna adjust it
Sure MLB hitters will adjust to him. But he will adjust to the MLB hitters as well.
So, saying "the hitters will adjust on him" "the pitchers will adjust on him" bla bla bla stuff is a total nonsense. Every pitcher adjusts to hitters and every hitter adjusts to pitchers. And every player tries to improve theirselves when they get adjusted. They are professional players you know.
Three hundred million and never pitched in the Major league. Dodgers really messed w the whole offseason of freeagency
With as much as Japan and Korea haaaaate weed your thumbnail might be a problem with some
And still...the dodgers wont be able to buy a WS again. Why? Theyll find a way to blow it as always. 😂😂😂
Dude get a job with a team, you are spilling the beans for free. Great channel but you keep giving up the secrets. Those tunneling shots are uber valuable. You ruined Sonny gray for me last year man. As soon as you put up his mechanics, boom, dude was getting hit, same with my boy Devon Williams. You interview him about his change up than boom suddenly it’s hittable. Bro you are wrecking my fantasy teams, stop!
JK love you man, great stuff.
First
I’ve seen as more bad/mediocre Japanese pitchers irabu, Ishii, dice k, igawa as good ones. So forgive me if I’m not handing the dodgers the pennant. Braves are still better.
Compare the guys you listed with Yamamoto's NPB Stats (for example, Dice K's ERA was about double that of Yamamoto's...who is one of the greatest Japanese pitchers of all time). Senga and Ohtani have done pretty darn well...and we also have much better scouting of arsenal's because we have actual Statcast data on his pitches...so we can predict how his pitches will look and act at the MLB level, unlike the eye test we used back in the day.
GIven how Lincecum and Pedro (to a lesser extent) couldn't maintain their elite velocity for that many years, the 12 year contract won't age well. Also similar in stature and age as Daisuke and he couldn't handle the workload in MLB. I imagine he'll be pretty good for at least a few seasons.
These decade long contracts almost never work in the back half but you have to offer the extra years so they don’t sign with another team who offers the longer contract
Looks slow
He will suck, Mark it. Fastball okay, his stuff works in Japan. Not here
Looking forward to the next vid! ❤️