Concrete slab for a pole barn in cold weather
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- This is monolithic pour (aka alaskan slab) for a post frame construction barn. 6" slab with fiber mesh, 5" slump, 4000 psi small stone mix. I use insulated blankets to keep this from freezing
Wow that hose replacement was crazy
Wow that’s crazy not bringing at least 10 feet on the backside of the building grade up to the building I would think the back side would just start eroding and washing away. Undermining the building. Good video.
I did actually go back and add like 50 tons on those sides
I like the tip about not going all the way through the foam with the table saw. NICE! 👍
That was a great tip 👍
I thought you were never allowed to put the rebar in ground contact as rust will come through - it always has to be on chairs. (talking about the vertical rebar that was pounded in around perimeter)
they are only there to hold up the other rebar until its cured. after that, they dont serve any purpose
All that rebar basically sitting on the foam with no gap under it. Would only be in the concrete by maybe 10-20mm. Needed rebar chairs so the rebar is in the middle of the pour. But a good job
53:20 Come on, gentlemen. You gave a stain. This wire mesh only works if there is at least some concrete underneath it. You put it on polystyrene, so the concrete will not water it, and it will not strengthen the concrete poured in such a way.
it was lifted, watch more carefully
Very Nice Job Jesse.....Perfect content for a lazy Sunday afternoon. Thanks for your considerable effort in producing this video. BTW....did I see you giving Andrew a hand with his Roof addition?
thanks and yes that was me, I will have a video about it soon, maybe tomorrow
Great video! I love the Drone shots mixed in showing the project and the beautiful land and Fall colors! Very well produced and edited as well! If I ever needed a slab poured you would definitely be the man! Your attention to detail is amazing!
thanks
A great video Jesse you sure have learned a lot and taught yourself so much. You know your stuff and it shows in your quality of how you do things.
thank you
Man you guys do great work, thanks for the video, have you finished with Andrew yet, Merry Christmas to you and your family and friends.
If I was the home owner, I would definitely use you. A very high quality cement pour. The attention to detail, shows up with a great foundation. You will always get work given the honesty & quality you put in to your business..
thank you, I appreciate the good feedback, this customer has been using me for like 8 years or so, every year there is always work to do there
Interesting you don’t use reo chairs to lift the reo up into the middle of the slab. Also. A slab that size with no expansion gaps/pre cuts? I feel like this would be crack city right now? It’s great people share videos that others can learn from, I’m only asking because every slab I’ve been involved in, we use chairs to raise the reo and pre concrete saw it afterward to ensure that when it does crack (because it will), it does so neatly.
It is not attention to detail it is just doing it right
@@ibsn87 cuts are mentioned in the video
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Okay, I'm subscribing. Any friend of Andrew Camarata is a friend of mine.
Me too, Jay! Between Jesse and Andrew these guys 'show' what I enjoy to watch and learn too.
Very interesting Jesse! I see your a student of construction and always learning. I have worked with many know-it-alls in my 50 years of construction and have seen them stupidly repeat moronic behaviors because that is what some other moron taught them. Keep up the great work!
Great to see you bringing your son on the job. It’s funny how those little moments, can become the vivid memories that stick with us for the rest of our lives. BOL
I do not see anyone hooking and lifting the wire mesh into the middle of the of the concrete pour slab. You are just pouting on top of it. OOOps ....just saw a BLUE Handle TOOL hooking the mesh and lifting it into the pour. I did not notice it being done in the first ¾ of the pour.
yea its hard to see because some of it is in fast-lapse, but I do designate one guy to be in charge of pulling it up, that way Its easy to keep track of it, but I also pulled up a bunch my self, plus we used the fiber so it wouldnt really matter anyways
Or better yet, use chairs under the wire mesh.
@@jayadinash9102 I always want to use them but when I price it, I think this slab was like $300 extra for them. I could hire 2 more guys for the day for that much. I wish they were more affordable
@@jayadinash9102 becomes a bitch to walk on
Main feed pressure hose is a common break down . suggest you stock an extra one. It allow flexs under the pressure causing addition wear that leads to a leakage. It is continuing being shocked by the pump with high pressure.
Love the in depth the long length of video. Most channels only do like 10-20 min video and u really don’t get much valuable info from them. So cudos to that. But personally I would rather here a voice over instead of the background music. Just my opinion
Super job,well done. Thanks for the great narration as always. ⛄Happy Holidays 🎄and GOD BLESS YOU ALL😇
thank you, happy holidays to you as well
Wow, you guys do such great work, especially for a pour this big. This is so satisfying to watch! Thanks for being a part of my day.
It’s better to pour the slab after the posts are set unless you don’t want the slab to aid in constraining your piers, which seems like a waste of material. As a structural engineer, I strongly do not recommend using gravel piers.
Good Job Jesse with the prep work 👍 that's where it counts!
Why didn't you use the pizza 🍕 pan? I know you had it! I had JC ship it from Syracuse they said you picked it up! Nice project!
Mike
I got that pizza pan for this job but it wouldn't fit my trowel, I have a 36 inch trowel and the space between the inserts is 35..maybe the next size bigger?
@@jmuller86 no it should have fit no problem are you using combination blades? Not sure if that's the issue but that's what I use..
@@DIRT-BOSS yea combo blades, 36 inches from tip to tip, but the insides of the pan are 35 from tip to tip, we tried everything to make it work
@@jmuller86 I'll go measure mind hang on! Just measured 35 1/2 overall from outside to outside.. 34" on the flat.. weird that should work.
Dirt Boss Tri-County Masonry & Excavating & @ Jesse Muller
I’m a fan of the channel (and Dirt Boss’s) and been a sales rep up the road at AH Harris /HD Supply in Albany for 13 years. They make pans for 36” trowels in 35-3/4” and 36-1-2”ID (inside the lip of the pan)
How far are you off? What brand blades and pan do you get from JC? I live right by the Old Castle Plant in Ravena. I’m happy to come help you measure the trowel. 518-331-4430 is my cell.
Also- You have bad ass concrete blankets. Those are 6 layer R2.8 blankets made by Midwest Canvas in Fonda, NY.
Bring Andrew in with his hammer. No stone left whole with him! Lol
Baby Catcher , that's the first thing I thought too. Get Andrews hammer drill
Yay. I have seen so many pole barn video's where they do the concrete slab after the building is up. At least this is a nice pad and done the right way :-)
i watch you helping andrew
@Abdullah yes
I watch kens carpentry when he pours slabs with the insulation he puts down plastic vapor barrier over the insulation to take care of the seams then his rebar
That was fabulous, Jesse. We really enjoyed the 360 clip you inserted as well as those beautiful drone landscape views. That foam around the perimeter looks like a very good idea, and those tips about overlapping the rebar are very good as well. Looking forward to the rest of the build. Thanks for taking all the time to post this.
thanks Dale
Awesome job!
Two questions.
What area if the Country is this?
Approximately what did you charge for that particular job?
Thanks!
this is in upstate ny, monolithic pours start at $12/ sq ft for 6" pours. then the site work, which in this case was alot, but if everything was perfect probably another 4 to 5k for site work and all other misc things
Jesse was that you in Andrew's video ? How's Levi as a supervisor ?
yes it was, I am almost finished with my perspective of that work. levi is good, he does bark if he thinks something is too dangerous
@@jmuller86 lol
@@jmuller86 I ever get back East again , you two would be on my list of people to meet keep the videos coming ,take care Ciao
You can pin the foundation directly to bedrock, we do this all the time. Bedrock does not freeze and heave.
not a floating slab, I explained why in the video. in a normal foundation yes, but this is not frost free so its meant to move when the frost heaves it, if you pin it to bedrock then the whole thing needs to stay on bedrock or 4' down. this is only 12" down so it needs to not touch bedrock so it can move
Jesse Muller okay you do a great job, You explained after I commented. If rock is shallow why not pin the entire perimeter, rather than float?
Thank you for replying.
@@maraudermitchelli the left side had deep bedrock, like 4 or 5 ft deep, thats how it always works when I hit bedrock, its always sloped so I can never do that without a big deal. rock is bad around here
@@jmuller86 Thanks for the explanation. For the life of me, I didn't understand why not really bonding to the Bedrock. Now I have honestly learned something first thing this morning!! Awesome video and EXCELLENT work! Happy New Year!!
Jesse, have you ever used your truck when loaded for compacting ? We have in the past and seems to really compress the base much more than a walk behind tamp. Of course we have to re-level and tamp again but...
Such nice work, thumbs up !!
Also, love that Yankee ingenuity with the drain pipe for a chute !
I have done that on roads and such but havent tried it under a slab, thanks!
AWESOME. Another awesome Video Jesse. Well done on the slab too. Great tips and fun to watch. I see that foundation lasting longer than the building and never need to worry about anything !!!!
WOW
Thank you! Very informative, PRICELESS, and more informative! The PRICESLESS came midway of this video with your 'son' working with you - absolutely PRICELESS! Informative because you gave a ton of information of what & why you were doing something, so KUDOS on all that.
WOW, really looks like a stick built home. Who would of thunk it! Nice work, hard word, snow sucks and keep the videos coming & big thanks. Sonny (CT)
Love the drone overview shots. - It appeared the re-wire was lying flat on the foam insulation sheets. Was that just the angle of the camera that made it appear like that?
i designate one guy to be in charge of pulling up the wire, I also pulled up the wire too just to make sure. plus we used fiber so it almost doesnt even need the wire
@@jmuller86 i never did once see anyone lift wire
@@billylo2010 check again because there is several times I clearly showed it being done. the heavier set guy usually does it, but I also did a bunch myself in this video
@@jmuller86 if you could point out to me the time In the video in which wire was being pulled
@@billylo2010 58:00 was where I lifted it, the rest was in fast motion before that
That skidstier is definitely purchase of the year. Very useful piece of equipment.
yea I could have used the loader but this skidsteer is quicker to turn or turn around
to me my work was fun and i get paid for it so have fun
in my opinion i think you do better slabs than andrew hehe 😉
I use old garden hose to protect my hoses on my Bobcat. Some can be a real pain to get to. Love the video's, keep up the good work.
many hoses on a skid steer are to big for a garden hose, i use a nylon woven sock, comes in many sizes in 50 or 100 foot rolls, cheap, just put a good tie wrap on at each end
Bobcat Smith
That leak was not from any abrasion that could be protected by wrapping with any sort of protective layer. It was right next to a fitting which means it is caused by being flexed thousands of times as hydraulic functions are started and stopped.
Morning Jesse. Another good video showcasing your trade and skill. I have followed you for a while now and must say I've seen a significant advancement in the quality and thought you've taken to present your videos in a true professional manor. Kudos!
I just finished watched you and Andrew on his roof project.....Not sure you guys discussed this, but I'm sure you did...you could have used a couple of extra sets of hands! The last spancrete panel...looked a bit dicey to me but again Kudos for getting it done. Look forward to your next one.
lol me and Andrew will probably do most of the work ourselves, its just kind of how we roll, I had help on this slab but I went many years with no help. thanks
@@jmuller86 I figured that was the way you guys worked. Been there done that..LOL Question, I didn't see any expansion joints or will you saw cut the slab later. Out here on the west coast we do both..dependent on the situation.
@@robertsimmons3556 I will probably saw cut it when the guys are there helping me build it, I do both too, alot of slabs dont get the cuts around here but they hold up good with no cracks if the prep work is done right
hay great job thanks for the video have fun
@20:46 looks like a @handtoolrescue project
Great to see on the job training for your son .
THUMBS UP EVERYONE ! Good job dude, on the house work as well. Thanks for sharing.
Jesse you are a hell of a tradesman really do great work.
a HUNDRED DOLLARS ????????? WHAT THE FUCK?????
Never seen a level laser use in the top of a pour. Very nice touch. Thus set you apart from the others who do a pour as the PRO.
there really is many ways to do it, I have tried a bunch of different screed guides and it works good too, I dont know why I like this method the best, just seems fastest
this was epic - also interesting on the story of the original mobile home
thank you, I will most likely be building that pole barn too, most likely with the boom lift I am getting from Andrew
@@jmuller86 Don't tip it over.... :)
Thanks for that frost heave info@ 8:11
Thank God I don't do concrete anymore 30 years of flat working stamping walls and forms but I do like criticize other people's work😁 great job guys👍
I used to bust my butt doing flatwork but now I use the power screed its not so bad
1:07:56 When they built the Hoover Dam, they had to put water pipes all through the structure which was used to dissipate the heat the concrete curing created. I can't remember if it would take 50 or 150 years for the "heater" to finally turn itself off. I was astounded that it would take so long for it to finish the process. Many, many years ago I worked on a construction site and we had a concrete pour that went 24/7 for 4½ days non stop (the overtime was excellent!!) so the Hoover Dam info cooling I found very interesting because of my previous experience.
Thanks for the videos Jesse. They are very much appreciated. 👍
Can someone tell me what a Pole Barn is please. I have tried Google but don't know if what I read is related to Jeese's location. *Thanks* in advance if someone reads the 11½ month old comments to this video and answers.
Interesting about that concrete work you did, a pole barn is just a structure that is built by using 6x6 pressure treated posts, with horizontal girts to hang the siding. It uses less materials and goes up quicker than traditional studded buildings
Ridiculous hose and cable management on those machines for repairs such as the ones you did. You'd think the factory would tidy it up in production design
I'm from the south, I've never seen foam board placed under and around the pad, looks like it will cause it to crack if weight is applied. Can you explain the process of why?
I do like the way you set the forms and the pad with a footer.
Is there a huge lead time require for a conc. pump in your area?
$300 looks worth it with all your shoveling.
not a big lead time but its over $800 for a pump truck not 300
@@jmuller86 fair enough then. Not worth 3 guys 8 hours work.
interesting, we are building an apt building now in Maine, and we put the foam on top of concrete. i believe
That wouldn't make much sense. The point of the foam is to insulate the slab.
please can anyone tell me name of music playing from 8.43 ending at 14.08? i'd really be happy if someone can help me with this. i'm a drummer & would just love to get this track down to groove to it on my electric kit. many thanks people
Please tell me,,why do these guys all use cloves,, are there handls so senticive that oil or dirt stopes them picking there nose, or what
have you ever worked with concrete? i have done alot of work with it and if I even so much as go near it my hands instantly dry up and sometimes even start bleeding. maybe you havent worked with it enough with no gloves to go through that
Frank? does. Your. Woman. Let. You. In. With dirty hands?.
Crazy to think a year has almost gone by already! Damn quarantining made 2020 fly by.
Also your editing is getting awesome too!!!!
Is there a reason that you did not pull the screen up into the concrete?
Saw later that you did
Such a gorgeous view. Reminds me of Algonquin park in my back yard. ROCKS, TREES and WATER. Sigh.
Nice job on the prep the slab and overcoming obsticles. 🇺🇸
thanks
@@jmuller86 thanks for the cool videos
We normally put a few buckets of clay behind the timbers if we cant drive pegs down
Expensive hose. Fittings are normally $10-20 at NAPA for me and a few bucks for hose.
The Chicken is your Levi!!! You now have a Channel Chicken.... or foreman...
Jesse,,,,, mafia blocks your machine and pick up 500 pounds you could’ve gotten close to the forms and then put kickers in there to hold him the only other thing you could’ve done was long rebar from the other side and used coil rod with a big plate on the other side and hold the whole form together with rebar crossing want to coil rod start to the end and you can answer as the coil rod was on the bushing at the end it all leaves it piece of steel about the size of a half dollar for the first fish of the form it’s called Coil rod least use a lot of it and bridge jobs and construction junkmando
Quite a collection of antique chainsaws! Nice work on the slab too.
those were some cool chainsaws, that place is pretty good
Awesome job, take care my friend god bless and Merry Christmas 🎁🎄
I’ve been in the building game for over 45 years, you are a good Operator Jesse !!! But about all this video stuff it’s great n all but I enjoy the sounds of the work being done on the site so I’m going to be a cranky old bugger and complain about the utube safe music playing over the top, nah I’m not a fan lolol
Do you buy equipment like Andrew C. does, and then fix it up into working condition? Or do you buy used serviceable equipment that goes directly into work?
That poor looked like a lot of work.
I do both depending on where I can save money
I wish my shop's foundation was built like this! Mine has big cracks everywhere.
yea concrete usually always cracks if the site work wasnt done right and rushed
John I fix the cracks and fill them in
..good info on concrete pouring.. great vid...
Perfect example of behind the scenes. When shit just never goes as intended. Thanks for adding this into the video
great video
Pretty good. I would have liked to see 'dobes or chairs and #4 or better #5 on a tight schedule since this is going to be a 'floating' slab. If it moves you really want it to move as a single unit made more difficult by the point load on the bedrock. Makes keeping it in an even plane when it cracks more challenging.
Awesome content Jesse. I really enjoy your longer video's
Thanks for the video @Jesse Muller
Great job, I love the quality of your work.
Great video maybe look out for a hydraulic hose repair rig a very worthwhile tool.
yea they are expensive, but maybe someday
Beautiful Job‼️👍👍. Vinny 🇺🇸
I am here because of Andrew :-)
How are you going to strip the forms with the foam screwed from the slab side? Good tip leaving the blade buried.
Did the barn get built? Any video of that? Thanks.
Finishing the concrete too early is almost as bad as too late . Edging wet goop is NO way to finish concrete . Put some calcium in it and play the WAIT game like REAL finishers do !
Nice work. especially teaching your son to do or help his father.
thats bullshit put plastic down on the bedrock that will isolate the concrete from sticking to the bedrock (which doesnt even happen id you just dont clean the bedrock off) by the way thats not crusher run ----- that looks like 3/4 inch road base
Thank you Jesse. I loved it. 1 hour passed as 15 minutes.))))
Love your new camera feature - it proves earth is not flat. LOL))))))
lol thanks
Enjoyable video but, as beautiful as your countryside is, it gets a bit boring keep getting a drone flight throughout the story. Reckon a drone flight as intro and outdo is all you really need. 🤠
Jesse you got this great job! Great narration! Thank you! 😊
You are very talented. Nice jog, thanks for sharing.
If you use nail just up side that inside wall foam, you will get outside wood off more easily,
Your a hard worker man. This guy must have paid a fortune for this slab otherwise I don't know how you made any money...?
Awesome! Great roof work too, inspirational! Thanks
I grew up in Chenango county and now live in Steuben county. Great videos, keep up the good work.
Is bedrock a pro or con when building an ICF foundation for a large house? Thanks
you criticise me for turned off some of the ads, I will not be honest I did not turn off some of those ads,as you criticise me, it an old saying think before your lips, before you do that or saying anything or criticise your facts must be true, I away made sure things are right.
damn that's a mess with all those hydraulic lines
For kicking on the bed rock, could Try a Hilti bit tiny bit bigger than some rebar ya have, drill your hole and put your kicker to the rebar 👍
All those chain saws at the hydraulic place! I thought you were in Andrew's garage!
A round steel stake with a nail in it to set grade🤔👍😁 4×6 edger works better makes nice straight no wavy edges 👍
yea a bigger edger might do a better job, will probably use that next time
Bedrock, so why not put 2" of sand on the bedrock then polyethylene over that? surely that will stop is attaching to is and it will all float together !
When the hose broke on my Yanmar VIO50 I borrowed Crows Foot wrenches. That was the best way to get into the mess of hoses to loosen and tighten the fittings. I have since bought both metric and standard as the space limitations sometimes require a wrench that is slightly loose to get on and off the nut.
Wonderfull I hope you got a USED OIL FURNACE free heat