BMW's BEST Kept Secret?! | 2023 BMW 230i Review
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Welcome to another Episode of Ross Reviews AU on this weeks Video we drive the all new 2023 BMW 230i with the M sport package.. The New 2 series is a 2+2 Design and we think looks very good.. Its RWD, has a ZF8 spd Auto & a 2.0L 4Cylinder Turbo (the B48) 190kw 400nm..
Would You Buy The New BMW 230i? Comment Below.
BMW's BEST Kept Secret?! | 2023 BMW 230i Review
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Thanks for discussing the alternatives too. The 230i seems to hit a perfect spot between luxury, usable, sports coupe.
Most people in the comments can't even afford a 220i, yet pretend the 230i is a bad car.... Honestly, it is better than the M240i for road use, you don't lose much accelaration, especially in the 0-30 range, top speeds are the same, yet you get much lower weight, all removed from the front axis.... So the 230i is more agile and drift happy. More economical in consumables and fuel too....
legit.. i drove the new M2 and it was so heavy and harsh
i agree, drove the 240i and the M2, and i have the 230i for about a month, this car is amazing, i must admit the 240i was cool too, but the m2 was to animialistic for me, maybe im gettin older, but i still like to drive fast, just not drive insane, the speed is still there, the handling is pretty much the same (if not better in 230i and 240i), interior the same... but the price is not the same :)
The M240 xdrive is a far superior car to the 230. What are you on about?
Took delivery of my 230i today in Palm Desert. Heaven.
great stuff!
I have previous generation 230i and i absolutely love this car, it's fun to drive and in my opinion that 5.5s is really fast and impressive
great car! 5.5 is very good!
Mate another informative ep and I never get sick of the look of surprise on ya face mate it's priceless, you're very open towards any brand and very constructive
🙏 I love any brand if the car is good! This one.. definitely made me fall in love with it
I can tell you as an owner of one of these, I couldn’t agree with your review more! I’ve managed to put some mods on the car (including performance) and it’s only made the car feel even better! you’ve definitely gained a new subscriber:)
👑🙏 love your work mate! What a great car the 230i is
I have one too! What modifications did you get if you don't mind me asking?!
@@lovelevon Thats cool!! I have been able to do -- VRSF Downpipe, Tune, MMR Lowering Springs, Spacers, and a few Carbon Accessories.
@@JoeyFelliniTV thinking about getting this. what is the hp now?
Another great review Johnno. A good looking BM that would handle very well and nice to throw into corners.
Thanks Frank! You would have enjoyed this much like the stinger
I know you like manual's, but in the new M2,M3,M4,M5 trust me this box the ZF is better, its so well dialed in, drove a M4, And wow. So fast, Click, click, Goneeeee
The transmission is amazing 👏 always a fan of the ZF
Up shifts are amazing, down shifts could use some improvement. Unless you are tracking your car it is likely something that will never bother you.
A beautiful little Beamer it's fast & has the looks & luxury,also that colour is different but I like it 👍so no wonder you didn't want to take it back lol,great vid Johnny excellent work buddy cheers.
Was a great car
Thanks for the review. When you said it brings back the old BMW sports coupe feel, that was great news. I owned a 1977 320i (E21). I know that feel. Glad it has returned. Current owner of a 2023 VW GTI 40th anniversary, it has that feel. Now I’m wanting a 230i 😐
Thanks for sharing! It’s a great fun car
this hits the perfect spot in terms of price, looks, performance, and everyday usability... without breaking the bank at the gas pump etc.
Great review as always mate 🍻
Nice car, my Dad has a XR6 turbo and a XR8, both ZF, I can officially say that they awesome 🍻
The ZF is fantastic
Great video just bought one.
Good choice!
Nice one mate. I like it.
It’s very we’ll packed this thing
great video! i also have a G42 such a beautiful shape
Thanks!
This is a fantastic car. No need to get the M Sport options. Best is the base car with only minimal options like the convenience package. Mine cost only $40,000 USD.
Omfg man
Why do you post on every single review of this car? We get it you can't afford the M sport package. Enough already
@@porfiriato84 - the MSport Package is unnecessary for enjoying this car! People should save their money! But it’s ok if you choose to waste yours. (OMG !!!).
@@rembo183 you're simply ridiculous by now. For you to literally post on every 230i review known to man... What is wrong with you?
M Sport option exists for people who want to do circuit racing or would like to push the car to it's stock limit, clearly not for you and yes there is a big fat difference when you're pushing the car hard but city driving it isn't at all required.
@@rembo183 M sport is a must in this car
Owned my 230i Msport for a for almost 8 month and I absolutely love this car. This car is extremely overlooked due to the big brothers, m240i and M2. Ive tracked and autocrossed a few times and have won a couple of trophies so this car is extremely capable in stock form.
its very underrated this car! will absolutely surprise a lot of cars
Did you experience any quality issues every since you owned the 2023 BMW 230?
@@bj10jgoOnly thing I had was a recall on the airbags they fixed it no problem
@@bj10jgo there was a rear camera recall for mine but mine seemed to work fine. Other than that mine has worked great, really good build quality.
@@bj10jgoover 1.5 years of ownership, no problems whatsoever. Got a JB4 piggyback and now the car is legitimately quick car, not as quick as an m240 but I can smoke Civic Type R with ease.
yeh sound is a hard one with BMW, a non M car will generally get a sedate soundtrack so it suits most buyers and for BMW to sell an M performance exhaust in Australia as a genuine accessory they must be homologated and comply with ADR's which costs the group a fair bit of money. They then weigh up if potential sales will cover the costs to bring them in. Most of the time its a no. Once the LCI model comes out they need to do it again from memory.. another cost. So It only gives a small window to sell the product. Not a lot of people will shell out 8-10k for effectively a catback system. Its funny tho because at BMW training they teach you to sell Emotion.. well sound is what gets you emotion!
Also an owner of this car (in US market), and going on just over two years now. I agree with every claim in this video. Of course, so much of enthusiast car ownership is subjective when making choices, but objectively, this car is absolutely a true sports car that does not compromise any of the three attributes of handling, braking or power. Yeah, the weight is heavier than it should be, and the steering feel is not ideal...but that is almost ALL BMWs. Otherwise, this is a very, very well-balanced car!
Well said! Thanks 🙏
The m240i thanks!!!!
If you got the money 💰
That's pretty much my car. I test drove both the 230i and M240 & I actually chose the 230i w/msport over the 240. I found that it drove better & handled sharper than the 240. As far as power goes, I think the car is plenty fast for public streets. I'm betting it's putting closer to 300hp down and about 320 tq. It's a quick car.
Nice buy! I do think they have under stated the power! It’s quick
Nope drove them both and took the 240 away quicker thanks and both handled the same!!
M240 is far more special
Nice car Johnny...BMW make a nice car....and love the colour...my wife has the 2018 M140i...with 8 speed Auto........enjoyable to drive.....great review
M140i must be nice! Great car
@@RossReviewsau B58...great motor...
Thank you! I test drove this exact color. Thinking about getting this or 2024 X2. I'm leaning toward this! I can't believe it. It is the exact color I am getting except mine inside is beautiful brown. Sexy!
Awesome car
LOL these are ASD prices i lost my shit for a second 😂 Thought he was talking USD
Yes Aussie prices 😂🇦🇺
The 2 series (not the FWD 4 door) and the 1 series before it are BMW's best driver focused cars of the 21st century. Now that they no longer offer a convertible 2 series, I'm going to hold onto my 228i convertible (with all the handling options) until it becomes too expensive to repair. Unfortunately the most affordable new BMW convertibles are the 2 seater Z4 30i or the 430i that has a hideous front grille.
It’s awesome
I loved it
And u can't beat that b58 6clyinder engine in the 240!!!
It’s better of course but more money.. a lot more
What a nice review. I just found your channel by chance and it is amusing.
I already own an x5 M50i v8 one. Do you think this 4 cyl 230i will be more fun than the taller suv albeit the x5 is faster?
Yes, absolutely! The handling is what makes it.
Glad you enjoyed the review
Sounds very nice
Great car
@@RossReviewsau definitely
I have the 2024 and it’s just bad ass. It still was 46,000. That’s bit cheap and it’s worth every penny. It just flies and corners better the. Anything I ever experienced including three Audi’s. I was also in a violent accident, hit by a girl in a big jeep flying downhill, I didn’t have my seat belt in and I was fine. Totalled the car so I linked up the white with black wheels. I get so many compliments on this car. Picked up some nice girls in it as well…cheeky so know but why not be honest. Do not mistake the 2 in the series. Red break bars and a killer interior….stunning. My next will be the M model.
I'm impressed 0 to 100 in 5.4 seconds from 190kw is proper quick. A tuned one should easily keep up with stock xr6t's and ss commodores at the lights.
You mean a stock one will keep up with a stock xr6t and ss
Stock one will keep up to most XR6T & SS cars on a B road.. on the straights tho they will leave it for dead.. 0-100 is pretty comparable tho
It should beat most domestic vehicles (Most of those will probably have crappy tyres statistically and may have opportunity to get a better time - but it will be statistically rare). A tune only will make it a very low 5sec proposition. Here’s some Ross Review stats:
VZ GTO bolt ons - 5.43secs
2023 230i - 5.43secs
Hyundai G70 v6TT 5.45sec
FPV FG F6 Auto Ute -5.46secs downhill
GT Mustang R-spec - 5.5secs
Jeep SRT - 5.5secs
Holden SV6 Supercharged - 5.55secs
FG turbo bolt ons -5.6secs
E92 M3 stock-5.63secs
BF Tornado - 5.64secs
VE GTS stock - 5.65secs
I searched up how reliable these are and they seem to be at their limit so a tune would not be ideal since they suffer from heat stroke. At that point the M240i is a better deal for tuning but the price difference is huge. Maybe a used M340i at the price point of the 230i is a smarter buy.
It probably feels stronger than 190kw because it's likely underrated like all BMWs. It's probably around 190kw at the wheels, which explains how it can get in the mid 5's
I would not doubt it’s 190kw to the wheels.. it’s quick
Exactly, look at how underrated the supra is for example
I'm kinda surprised no one has bolt the ZF 8HP to the back of a Barra yet.
Thank you for the video. I'm really interested in this car. Is the color we see Brooklyn Grey?
I believe so thanks glad you enjoyed it
Thank you!
2023 Models here in the US have the little shifter knob, yet yours has the full shifter? Why the difference? Excellent review btw. Subbed!
Good question? I’m not sure… maybe a difference from euro specs American spec
@@RossReviewsau I definitely preferred the full shifter. Ugh, I won't understand this change.
I just leased this car and I can tell you it’s amazing. The m version is a monster but for the price , like he said, it’s incredible. Hard to find so you might need to build one. Hit me up if you want to know more. It’s so much fun and d the four different drive modes are great. She moves and a it’s peak with the turbo is fantastic. I find myself going on Sunday drives now. It’s so much fun. Get the paddle shifters on her. You won’t regret getting one. I always turn my cars in at the end of lease this time I am buying it to keep as a second car. So much fun 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Good lease! It really is a great car for the price and fun!
You have the 240 or 230?
This or the 330?
BMW 230i - 255 hp / 3446 lbs = 0.073
I've driven:
Honda Crosstour V6 - 278 hp / 4,150 lbs = 0.067
Honda Civic i4 - 174 hp / 2972 lbs = 0.059
Mazda Miata - 181 hp / 2745 lbs = 0.066
BMW M240i - 382 hp / 3748 lbs = 0.102
Looking at the numbers, the 230i is probably the closest thing BMW has to a sports car (at least here in the US).
The >2022 M240i isn't a sports car to me, it's too heavy, and too fast. You simply do not understand the joy of driving a slow car fast until you've smashed the accelerator of a Miata going through the gears getting to 65 mph. The M240i just won't provide the same amount of thrill unless you're willing to go to jail or to a track.
The 230i I think (if you plan to own), is a sweat spot if you wanted a 2 door coupe that can still be a very usable daily.
If you wanted more power, light mods and a tune will get you about the same performance as a M240i without the extra weight.
I think the 2022 2 series is much more of a daily... not everyone can afford 2-3 cars just to have a dedicated sports car.
Do you have a video where you drive the MY 22-23 GR86 or BRZ? I daily a GR86, and started looking at the 230I After seeing one in person. Seems like more of a mid weight sports car at 3500-3600 LB compared to the BRZ and GR86 2800 LB. The 0-60 on both cars is 5.4, so it comes down to the agility, versatility, and creature comforts. I'm on the list for a GR Corolla Circuit, and If I don't love it, I may be in the market for a 230I or M240I.
Im on the same boat. I been debating to get a 23 GR86 or 23 230 but I cant seem to make my mind...
@bj10jgo soo, I actually have a GR Corolla now 😅. I would recommend the GR86 before the 230I. They will both teach you something as a driver, but the GR86 will be a more affordable starting point. You can always trade up in the future.
@@1InfinityShade Nice. The GR Corolla in my are way overpriced. Why would you pick the gr86 over the 230? Topher made a video where his BRZ raced with a 230 and it was like 4 car lengths behind..
Can you option a limited slip diff? The M sport package doesn’t seem to mention LSD 😞
It does have a LSD with the M sport package
M-sport package and ELSD are separate operations unfortunately. But you do get 4 piston big brakes with the ELSD. It truly is the one to buy and won’t drain your bank account completely.
@@postalpancho In EU u can spec it option after option, so u can have ELSD withouth the m-sport, or M-brakes withouth M-pack, and so on and so on... it's great but u know.. the specs are not cheap here, in the US the prices are waaaay lower
Will the 230i with xdrive handle just as well?
apparently it doesn't
Can’t wait to recieve mine next month, although the new one the one with the big screen only thing bad the color only was available in withe 🙂↕️
Edit I find it the price of 46000 eur including taxes with 15000 km
Good choice! They are a lot of fun
guys help me out should i rent a 230iM or a 330i and why. I really love the 2 series and i drove the m2comp. before but i still dont know which one to rent??
Depends... do you need the extra space? Quality is a LITTLE (srsly just a little bit) better on the 330i, but the looks are at least for me better on the coupe (again for me - by far better), performance is almost the same, handling is a little better on the 2 series (drove the 2,3,4, m2, m3comp the new ones) than on the 3. Apples and oranges
335i twin turbo review please Ross 2008
i heard they are sleepers once u tune them, forged rods from factory if im not mistaken?
@@shardsoldier not sure but they destroyed all their competition at the Bathurst 12 hour back in the day
I would love to see one!
@@shardsoldierforged crank and rods. Only cast pistons, but a stock unopened bottom end is still good for high 700bhp range.
i wouldn't say this is the sweetspot between the 230 and 240 but the 240 is right between the 230 and M2
RWD tho and light.. price also but both are great cars
At least in the US - it seems it can't be optioned with the M-Sport package, upgraded wheels, brooklyn grey, or portimao blue anymore :(
Really 🥲
@@RossReviewsau Unfortunately looks like it, the dealer said its due to parts shortages. From what I gather its so that they can put out more m240is. Should've ordered a 2022 230i with the m-sport package while I could've!
@@Thomas-pk8tuit's back for 2024 - I just noticed this week.
@@streamius neat! glad to see it - probably would've ordered one had that been the case back in January. I did take delivery of my m240i a couple weeks ago though!
Hi Mate! is there a way to contact you? I have a good mate with BMW 1M with 600hp and a 335i with 17t Turbos for you to review. Located in Surfers Paradise.
Great to hear mate I’m actually coming back up to GC at the end of the month! Instagram or FB best way to contact me
Its 3.0 ltre engine with more than enough power..but with a bit of a tune up will make it a lot better you say🤣...here in the uk with implementation of 20mph zones just no point.(sadly)..2.0 for everyday use....as i am looking into..sportsbike owner...the uk and wales killed enjoyable riding and driving.(sensibly of course)..
V4 engine. There isn’t a lot of headroom for power gains even with boltons. This car isn’t it if you’re looking at modding.
This is a good looking daily driver
great fun daily
A great alrounder of a car... However the looks of the latest BMW's are still divisive... This design is growing on me, however I still think the previous generations design is better...
I prefer this new look but maybe that’s because I got to spend the week with it 😅 does grow on you.. drives so well too
Me gusta bmw para wendy
this is the 2022 version
The dash is different in the us
Really
Looks tough...stepped out a bit though, in the wet it'd probably be all over
That’s the fun part 😈
If you're driving like an idiot, then yes...
Don't forget a new manual mustang gt is only 70k. 💁♂️
Very true!
yeh but nobody likes those so..... 😄
" only 70k " 😅
Cool but can somrone let Ross drive.
OG M2 or M2C.
🙏 would love that
Hi Ross.
I was talking to my Brother.
He has black manual OG M2 and would love to see his car on your channel.
PS If interested please text me your facebook contact. We live in Brisbane.
Like how your reviewing modern vehicles again please review a new Toyota voxy
I try to get fun New cars but still not always that easy being based in Perth 😂💀
I just wish it didn't look so weird, the previous model is one of the best looking BMW's of all time.
Takes a minute to get used to this.. I think this is the best looking of the new gen models tho
@@RossReviewsau That is true, let me clarify, I don't think it's a bad looking car at all. I actually like it, it's in my top 100 car designs of all time, however a clean 2018 M2 is easily top 10...
BMW’S best kept secret is the M240 xdrive. Better than the M2 in looks and performance. Massively cheaper too.
would you say the 230 is not worth getting ? Been debating to get one but the 240 is about $15,000 more..
Can you review a Toyota crown majesta UZS186?
I have done almost every crown
I want to buy this car but I can't get over how bad the color choices are in the USA. There is literally no silver, blue or gray. Either black white crimson red or this purple color that looks hideous. Like, WTH??? This is a luxury vehicle! Is the situation with supply really this bad
really... thats weird
Wtf? The "purple" or thunder night metallic is a stunning color. You have most likely never seen it in person
@@porfiriato84 I have, and found it even more hideous in person. To each his own...I certainly doubt I would ever hire you to decorate my home!
Not weird, Portimao Blue or Brooklyn Gray (and the satin options) only available with the M-Sport bodykit. Base models have only Alpin/Mineral white, Jet/Sapphire black, Melbourne red and Thundernight purple.
When I bought my first new BMW in 2002 there were probably at least three different shades of each color on the color wheel. I know some paints have been phased out for environmental reasons and the supply chain issues but still, it's a darn luxury vehicle base or not...@@levipiber2121
Great review, but sorry I have to disagree on it's looks, to me it's lumpy and disproportioned, and the front end with those huge ugly corner vents just looks super awkward. Maybe it looks better in person, haven't seen one yet - but BMW just seem to have totally lost the plot with aesthetic design in the last few years - on the exterior at least - the interiors do look better and better.
Each their own.. I don’t like the pig grill as of lately but I still like the rest
very repetitive w/ generic comments. Nothing new here.
Golf R standard is still much quicker (and far cheaper) and also with a few simple mods runs low 4's to 100kph and high 11's for the 400M..
Again tho hatch and awd
True. Different demographics though. The people who want a weekend sports car that has some cache - won’t be looking at a VW hatch - it sounds snobbish - but that’s how people buy emotional purchases (albeit quicker and more tuneable)
You can’t drift, do donuts and have a sexy coupe body line in a Golf. Sorry but “drift mode” in the Golf R is just a power slide, not a drift.
Far cheaper?
@@sergiovegamartinez5136 yeah actually - pretty similar prices in Australia. 😳
hey man, what software are you using to measure 0 to 100 times with the slope and graph?
Dragy.. it’s a little device you can buy
M550i or 550i 🔥
I need 🥹💯
$84K n Australia ++++ on road!!
Aussie tax is crazy 💀
thats cheap!