Thank you a looot my friend. I'm so glad to know that I've been helpful in anyway. Thank you kindly for your support 🙏Don't hesitate if you have any question about the beast
I’ve heard the “hidden” acoustic piano sound was put there by Yamaha for engineers to test units and not as an Easter egg for customers. But, who cares - it sounds great!
I really love this keyboard! It has improved my playing a lot because I use it everyday, as it is very easy to attach a music player to it and play along with the songs you want. My favourite sound is Rhodes mark II with some reverb and chorus, but last year I'm using the acoustic piano a lot. I'm pretty sure this keyboard will be a classic one.
They seem to hold their value well enough that they are worth $20 - $30 shy of their new price. I just bought a brand new one off Amazon for $349 & I NEVER buy anything new.
Just finding out bout the secret grand piano wow it sounds awesome and the notes sustain longer I’m never selling this board it has all my favorite classic sounds
I wish they would do these in a midi guitar pedal style. Take up no room, you can add on as you go, mix different ones together. Put them on your keyboard, floor, amp etc.
I wish they'd done a good upright instead of the toy piano. A Chappell or something. Would have been a big seller to Beatles fans for pumping out Lady Madonna. Almost all "upright" patches are processed samples from a grand piano and sound nothing like a proper upright.
@@LaBeatrie Yes. I bought it almost two years ago at half the introduction price, which was quite high at first. Now it's a steal at around $300.-- It's the first instrument I play everyday and want to take with me anywhere I go. The realism of the patches and effects have proven to be total head-turners!! The feel is awesome due to the on-board speakers that resonate through your fingers and hands. Love it...
My biggest concern with the Reface CP was not enough keys, but you’re using another connected keyboard to solve that problem - whats the keyboard you’re actually playing here and how’d you connect them?
Here I use the Yamaha PSR-300 as a midi keyboard (it's actually a cheap arranger keyboard that I almost only use as controller, because it doesn't sounds really nice haha). I just connected its MIDI output to the midi input of the Reface CP. Magic ! Feel free to ask me more question if you need 😊
Hello again La Beatrie! I forgot to ask if I can interface the Reface CP with my beginners Yamaha Psr-E273 keyboard? Thank you for your time sir. Robert
If the yamaha has midi out it can be used as the keys for the cp. Midi is only note and performance data btw, sound does not pass through midi io just performance data and sysex data. Sysex means system exclusive data, like voice selection, midi preferences, effects settings, but once again no sound data. You may already know this and if so just ignore it and have a great weekend.
If the PSR-E273 has a midi OUT, you can plug it into the midi IN of the Reface CP. Then the PSR will "control" the Reface, sending it the name notes you press, and how hard you press them, for how long, etc :) And you can also do it the other way ! Assuming the keyboards both have midi INs and OUTs
your piano playing skills are excellent! but why do postprocessing? I was looking for content that demonstrates the sound of an instrument without embellishments as it is.
I processed it because this is how I love it (there's some external reverb and delay, but most of the FX come from the unit itself) 🙃 You are not on the right channel if you're searching for standard gear reviews. Anyway, thanks for the feedback !
I think some people have tweaked the electronics +rotary knob so that it could could have an extra designated acoustic slot (+lock into position at the bottom where the word "type" is.. with the acoustic piano sound.) If there are any electronic people reading this (who know how to do that) I will pay the shipping both ways to pay someone to tweak a couple CP's for me. It's such a great keyboard with this feature but I don't want the knob to slip out of place in the middle of a song.. YAMAHA... I would pay extra for a "deluxe" CP (exactly the same as the original, -don't change anything else, please) but with just one change = a knob with a designated stopping point for the acoustic piano. (Or if U R an electronics guy who wants a fun little gig, then I have the schematics from the guy who made a youtube video tweaking the knob so that the "Rhodes 1" slot would be temporarily replaced with the acoustic piano every time u turn it off+on.. This method would also suffice.)
Another solution would be if someone could create (or find) a MIDI phone-"app" that would STORE the secret piano sound on an attached phone.. (so that u don't have to monkey around with balancing the knob in that precarious position +turning the keyboard on+off in the middle of a set when it's hooked up to a P.A.) Unfortunately the Yamaha "Soundmondo" app doesn't work for this... it saves the other sounds but doesn't save the hidden acoustic.
Howdy and thanks for this post! It was great! I also own a Reface CP and I’m wondering how you were able to connect your CP to your keyboard, and use the CP to override the keyboard sounds while playing the CP voicing’s? I have a similar set-up at home and would love to play the CP sounds over my 88 digital keyboard? Any insight would be appreciated? Are you using your CP as a MIDI controller? I’m fairly new to this sort of keyboard integration.
Hello there, thanks for passing by ! Hehe yeah it can seem tricky, but it is pretty simple actually. I answered to this in quite a few other comments of this video. Globally, you just have to link the two keyboards with a midi cable. From the OUT of the big one, to the IN of the CP. That's it !
Yes, the audio is slightly processed in Ableton Live, I guess some eq, compression, a bit of reverb maybe. I don't remerber precisely. But the processing doesn't affect truely the sonic identity of the CP, it was more about smoothing everything out
Hello there ! Unfortunately the p125 doesn't have a classic 5 pin midi output. So you can't just link it directly to the Reface with a midi cable. You have to use the usb output via a computer / midi interface to get the signal to a midi cable that you can plug into the Reface. If anything is unclear, don't hesitate to ask !
How did you connect it to a bigger keyboard, is it a midi or something else and could you potentially use both of them at the same time although the sound comes only from one ?
Hello there ! Yes it's a midi link, coming from the midi out of the PSR to the midi in of the Reface (via an adaptor). So technically the two keyboards are playing at the same time, but I set the volume of the PSR to zero, so I hear only the Reface. And yes both of the sounds can come from only one audio out, thanks to the Aux. input of the Reface. Just plug the audio out of the PSR to this Aux input, and everything will come from the Reface CP audio out 😄
Yes I was wondering how the two are linked also ( new to these things / learner) Thought I was just going to hear reface solo. Thanks both of you … for the 1 question and 2 explanation
Hello there ! I think you have to get the usb signal to a computer / midi interface to be able to send the data through the midi in of the Reface. But if you get the right USB cable, you can try to link directly the two usb ports (Casio to Reface). I'm not sure it would work, but it's not impossible.
@@ericdelalande1360 Yeah but USB port are used for midi in and out, so I think you should try ! The info about where the midi message is coming from is sent each time you trigger a note, so I could work...
3:56 sounds so familiar. Are you just noodling or are you playing something well known? Great demo and I looove that abalog delay sound so much. I might need to get me a CP.
@@LaBeatrie I couldn't say, the notes between 3:56 and 4:00 together with that warbly dreamy vibe just sounded lovely and familiar, but maybe I just watched this video months ago and I forgot :p (Btw, can you add Fx to the Hidden Piano sound?)
Hey there ! The DX7 has a midi output, so yes ! You just have to connect this output to the CP's midi input with a standard midi cable. Then you should turn on the DX7, and turn down its volume. Unless you wanna hear both keyboards.
I really love E-pianos(electro mechnical) and also this honourable emulation. Im gratefull it exists, its portable, it sound really convincing, has all the effect on your fingertips to be creative :) The toy piano is abit odd to me, whish they would've put an lesser know EP there instead. Something like an Kawai EP-608 or Maestro 612p, or some other Rhodes model. Still hoping they might update it with a new e-piano or something.
Love the demo! Have you done some velocity processing? Your acoustic piano sound sounds really bright and nice. I'm having trouble with the piano sound coming out too muddy (when playing the built in keyboard).
Hey there ! Thank you for that kind comment 🙂Actually the only thing that could impact the velocity processing here is that I use an external keyboard. An pretty old one with a poor response, so yeah maybe it sounds different than with the built in one. Because de Reface's keyboard is extremely sensitive and expressive, so it doesn't sounds really natural with the acoustic piano sound, in my opinion.
@@nilsbergendal You can get any arranger keyboard (with midi out) in a second hand shop, they can cost you like 10 or 20 bucks, and do the job ! Else, a midi keyboard like an Oxygen, a Keylab or whatever will do to
@@LaBeatrie Yes, although I will start with trying my old synth a Roland JX-10 to use as a MIDI keyboard, problem with that is that last time I tried it, it seemed to put out very weak velocity (non adjustable). Need to check that with MIDI-OX.. Otherwise, definitely another midi keyboard needed! :-)
@Mahen Ounet I really don't think it can cause any harm to the selector. At least, for now I have no problem ! Anyway, yeah the CP is kinda close, it's from the famous CP80, an electric grand piano release in 1978, but there's some kind of chorus/stereo effect, and some amp simulation. So it really sounds less "natural" for me.
With a midi cable 😊 From the midi out of the big keyboard to the midi in of the CP. The thing is that the CP has no standard midi I/O, there's just one tiny midi port. You need some kind of splitter that give you the 2 midi sockets from that tiny one (the splitter was in the box when I bought the CP).
@@LaBeatrie the splitter cable comes as standard with each Reface, well they came with both my CP (purchased this month) and YC (last month) love them both and especially now I know how to obtain the hidden acoustic piano, although like you wish it could’ve replaced the TOY option. At some point I will investigate into the remote keyboard (as you’ve done via midi connection) I see you mentioned above it’s a no go with the P125, would that be the same with my P255. Having said that the P series hammer keys are great for acoustic piano but not so great for other stuff like organ playing etc so I’d probably buy a cheap keyboard like you have although maybe not 88 but 61 or 73 for ease of moving about and space etc. Thanks for your brilliant video some interesting stuff you come up with including an alternative take on Green Onions love Booker T & the MGs
@@jameswood3977 Wow thank you for that great comment 🙏 ! I checked about the P255, and it has a midi in/out, so you can connect it directly to you CP 😊
I'm using the Yamaha PSR-300. I old and cheap keyboard from the 2000s. A few sounds from it can be interesting, but I'm using it mostly for its full size keyboard
@@crispyexperience7782 Thank you man ! 😀I just plugged a midi cable from the MIDI OUT of the PSR to the MIDI IN of the Reface. The only particular thing is that the Reface has only one tiny midi socket for midi in and out. You have to use a splitter to get the two separate full sized sockets.
You just need to connect the midi out of the second keyboard to the midi in of the Reface. But the Reface has just one socket for midi in/out and it's a little smaller than normal. So you need some kind of splitter that you plug into that that gives you a normal midi in and out. For me it was given with the keyboard when I bought it. I hope I helped you ! Don't hesitate if you have other questions 😊
uyauabing why would the hardware last longer than software that you can take with you onto a new computer? Once you buy keyscape you can put it on a flash drive and transfer it through the years. The hardware gets used and is mechanical which eventually wears out
@@dentninja It may be true. Hardware 'wears out'. I'm still working with a 37-year old DX7 that was never serviced. Ditto with a 42-year old CP-80. Software, though they may be better jack-of-all trades , usually won't last more than 5 major OS cycle updates. Software may be discontinued. Licenses expire. Software companies may go under. I can't even use favourite VST plugins from 2007 anymore.
Hey nice delay loop jam!!! That’s one of my favorite things to do with my CP. you can make the digital one play drums too by tweaking the knob in the middle of a loop, or creating a drum pattern with any sound and a little knob chaos
I think the DX is way more versatile, because it's a proper synth. You can probably get some nice electric piano sounds from it too. I never tried it tho... The CP is different. This is only emulation of real electric pianos (and an acoustic one). High quality emulation. And it is much more plug and play I think, no sub menus and stuff... Both seems really powerful and fun to play. I wish I got both !
@@LaBeatrie I like the patch memory on dx but couldn't I just get the sounds using dexted or another vst. The CP sounds likes its a lot harder to find a vst for I'm mainly going go use this with my pc as a midi too.
@@lalaelien You are probably right. The DX is easier to replace with a VSTs in my opinion... Even if Rhodes and pianos can be as well (Arturia V collection, Kontakt...). I think the CP is a more essential physical tool in a studio (eventually in addition to a nice fullsize midi keyboard... but the inner keyboard is already very very expressive and playable).
Is this a good thing or a bad thing for you ? (I know the "piano" sound from my PSR-300 is pretty shitty...). Anyway, this is not one of the 6 main sounds of the keyboard, it's not even supposed to be playable by customers... Check @Keith Edwin Smith comment right there on this video, he explains well why this piano sound is embed in this machine.
La Beatrie yeah PSR piano sounds very midi, but at least there’s a secret piano patch embedded there, everybody needs piano sounds even of it’s not that good sounding. The engineers embedded that sound for testing purposes
I'm talking about sound here. The larger keyboard is only here to have more keys, but doesn't produce any sound. The Reface sounds exactly the same with it's inner keyboard. It's even more expressive because the quality of the keys is way better than the one I use in the video.
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The analog delay is soooo sick and you really maxed out the potential of it, great demo excited to get one of these
my name is giovanni giorgo, but everybody calls me giorgo🤯dude, im goosebumping SOOO hard! ❤️
@@Muenchhausen Oh thanks man ! I'm so glad that it hit the right spot 🎯 😁
REALLY loved the looped stuff you played, thats some avantgard bro
Thanks a lot man !
You've demoed the CP from a perspective I haven't come across before. Thanks! It sounds a lot more useful (to me) than I thought it could.
Thanks a lot for that amazing feedback ! 😀
Or you could find any number of free plug ins that have equal or better sounds hahahaha.
Same, it's cool to hear it pushed into ambient sounds with tons of delay, sustain etc.
Nice trippy FX +loops
Wonderful demonstration ! Thank you for sharing. Just purchased mine after watching your video. Thank You and All The Best !
Thank you a looot my friend. I'm so glad to know that I've been helpful in anyway. Thank you kindly for your support 🙏Don't hesitate if you have any question about the beast
Cool video! I like your editing style. There needs to be more keyboards like this that are affordable and sound amazing.
Thank you for making this.
Man, thank YOU for watching this
Damn dude your editing is smooth as hell. Super chill stuff.
Thanks a lot my friend ! You're the best 😁
Thay delay at 3:56 is so natural and beautiful, I really like what Yamaha did there
Yeah the "analog" delay is reaaally sweet
I’ve heard the “hidden” acoustic piano sound was put there by Yamaha for engineers to test units and not as an Easter egg for customers.
But, who cares - it sounds great!
Oh, interesting ! Thank you for this info 🙂
The warmth!
I really love this keyboard! It has improved my playing a lot because I use it everyday, as it is very easy to attach a music player to it and play along with the songs you want. My favourite sound is Rhodes mark II with some reverb and chorus, but last year I'm using the acoustic piano a lot. I'm pretty sure this keyboard will be a classic one.
You're right, it's a must have (and a cheap one !)
OK, i'm conviced, a secondhand CP will come my way later this week.
Excellent my friend ! Enjoy this beauty
They seem to hold their value well enough that they are worth $20 - $30 shy of their new price. I just bought a brand new one off Amazon for $349 & I NEVER buy anything new.
@@musikman43204 yeah, people seem to hang onto this range of instruments, which is a good sign.
Just finding out bout the secret grand piano wow it sounds awesome and the notes sustain longer I’m never selling this board it has all my favorite classic sounds
Hehehe enjoy your CP my friend ! So you discovered the hidden piano with this video ?
@@LaBeatrie ha ha I sure did not find it here. lol
Beautiful Demo and beautiful playing Sir. Are you using an external speaker amp please? Thank you! Cheers from Michigan usa New suscriber here.
I wish they would do these in a midi guitar pedal style. Take up no room, you can add on as you go, mix different ones together. Put them on your keyboard, floor, amp etc.
The secret piano pretty much settles it for me. I need a small, good sounding instrument to learn on. This is it.
You're right it's a good product to start learning on. And you still can add a midi keyboard in the future if you want more keys...
I wish they'd done a good upright instead of the toy piano. A Chappell or something. Would have been a big seller to Beatles fans for pumping out Lady Madonna. Almost all "upright" patches are processed samples from a grand piano and sound nothing like a proper upright.
I feel the same way man ! I'm not that enthusiastic about that toy piano...
So glad they didn’t, love having this little gem that can fit in a backpack or squeezed under a keyboard table. Wouldn’t use it as much otherwise
Yeah, its awesome...
That's right !
Do you own it ?
@@LaBeatrie Yes. I bought it almost two years ago at half the introduction price, which was quite high at first. Now it's a steal at around $300.-- It's the first instrument I play everyday and want to take with me anywhere I go. The realism of the patches and effects have proven to be total head-turners!! The feel is awesome due to the on-board speakers that resonate through your fingers and hands. Love it...
My biggest concern with the Reface CP was not enough keys, but you’re using another connected keyboard to solve that problem - whats the keyboard you’re actually playing here and how’d you connect them?
Here I use the Yamaha PSR-300 as a midi keyboard (it's actually a cheap arranger keyboard that I almost only use as controller, because it doesn't sounds really nice haha). I just connected its MIDI output to the midi input of the Reface CP. Magic !
Feel free to ask me more question if you need 😊
Hello again La Beatrie! I forgot to ask if I can interface the Reface CP with my beginners Yamaha Psr-E273 keyboard? Thank you for your time sir. Robert
If the yamaha has midi out it can be used as the keys for the cp. Midi is only note and performance data btw, sound does not pass through midi io just performance data and sysex data. Sysex means system exclusive data, like voice selection, midi preferences, effects settings, but once again no sound data. You may already know this and if so just ignore it and have a great weekend.
If the PSR-E273 has a midi OUT, you can plug it into the midi IN of the Reface CP. Then the PSR will "control" the Reface, sending it the name notes you press, and how hard you press them, for how long, etc :) And you can also do it the other way ! Assuming the keyboards both have midi INs and OUTs
great kybrd but not seen anyone get anything nice out of the Toy Piano.thanx for the upload
Great demo man! While having it setup like this can you synch the delay timing with ableton?
Thanks man ! Noap unfortunately the delay can't be synced via midi or whatsoever... At least as far as I know :(
If you smart at sound design you can turn this little guy into a mini Omisphere. If sounds good enough, the possibilities after recording are endless.
Oh nice ! What kind of process are you using ? Some granular synthesis and a lot of reverb I presume ?
Nice video. Thanks for the creative tips and the tip on going to the acoustic piano.
Thank you a lot for that feedback my friend. I'm glad I could help you !
your piano playing skills are excellent! but why do postprocessing? I was looking for content that demonstrates the sound of an instrument without embellishments as it is.
I processed it because this is how I love it (there's some external reverb and delay, but most of the FX come from the unit itself) 🙃 You are not on the right channel if you're searching for standard gear reviews. Anyway, thanks for the feedback !
That background music is sick
Thanks buddy ! A lot of tape simulation here hehe
And you're the first one ever to notice it, so, thank you again !
Just bought one!
You made a good deal man ! You'll not regret it
I think some people have tweaked the electronics +rotary knob so that it could could have an extra designated acoustic slot (+lock into position at the bottom where the word "type" is.. with the acoustic piano sound.) If there are any electronic people reading this (who know how to do that) I will pay the shipping both ways to pay someone to tweak a couple CP's for me. It's such a great keyboard with this feature but I don't want the knob to slip out of place in the middle of a song.. YAMAHA... I would pay extra for a "deluxe" CP (exactly the same as the original, -don't change anything else, please) but with just one change = a knob with a designated stopping point for the acoustic piano. (Or if U R an electronics guy who wants a fun little gig, then I have the schematics from the guy who made a youtube video tweaking the knob so that the "Rhodes 1" slot would be temporarily replaced with the acoustic piano every time u turn it off+on.. This method would also suffice.)
Sweet
Can you imitate the Fendee Rhodes "bark" when you get down and funky?
Oh yes you can with that beast !
That Daft Punk sounded amazing
Thanks man ! Actually it's not that hard to play, you just have to be very steady
Another solution would be if someone could create (or find) a MIDI phone-"app" that would STORE the secret piano sound on an attached phone.. (so that u don't have to monkey around with balancing the knob in that precarious position +turning the keyboard on+off in the middle of a set when it's hooked up to a P.A.) Unfortunately the Yamaha "Soundmondo" app doesn't work for this... it saves the other sounds but doesn't save the hidden acoustic.
Howdy and thanks for this post! It was great!
I also own a Reface CP and I’m wondering how you were able to connect your CP to your keyboard, and use the CP to override the keyboard sounds while playing the CP voicing’s? I have a similar set-up at home and would love to play the CP sounds over my 88 digital keyboard? Any insight would be appreciated? Are you using your CP as a MIDI controller? I’m fairly new to this sort of keyboard integration.
Hello there, thanks for passing by ! Hehe yeah it can seem tricky, but it is pretty simple actually. I answered to this in quite a few other comments of this video. Globally, you just have to link the two keyboards with a midi cable. From the OUT of the big one, to the IN of the CP. That's it !
And this is all done on the cp? No external effects or anything else?
Yes, the audio is slightly processed in Ableton Live, I guess some eq, compression, a bit of reverb maybe. I don't remerber precisely. But the processing doesn't affect truely the sonic identity of the CP, it was more about smoothing everything out
The toy piano is perfect for synthwavey horror stuff.
True story !
Can I connect the Reface CP to my yamaha P125? Like you are doing here?
Thanks.
Hello there ! Unfortunately the p125 doesn't have a classic 5 pin midi output. So you can't just link it directly to the Reface with a midi cable. You have to use the usb output via a computer / midi interface to get the signal to a midi cable that you can plug into the Reface.
If anything is unclear, don't hesitate to ask !
How did you connect it to a bigger keyboard, is it a midi or something else and could you potentially use both of them at the same time although the sound comes only from one ?
Hello there ! Yes it's a midi link, coming from the midi out of the PSR to the midi in of the Reface (via an adaptor). So technically the two keyboards are playing at the same time, but I set the volume of the PSR to zero, so I hear only the Reface. And yes both of the sounds can come from only one audio out, thanks to the Aux. input of the Reface. Just plug the audio out of the PSR to this Aux input, and everything will come from the Reface CP audio out 😄
Yes I was wondering how the two are linked also ( new to these things / learner) Thought I was just going to hear reface solo. Thanks both of you … for the 1 question and 2 explanation
you should defo run the co through your monotron
You're right ! Dunno why I never tried that
THanks Arnold! ;) hehehe
Hi, I have a Casio cdps100 with a USB outlet, how can I connect that to my cp.
Thanks
Hello there ! I think you have to get the usb signal to a computer / midi interface to be able to send the data through the midi in of the Reface. But if you get the right USB cable, you can try to link directly the two usb ports (Casio to Reface). I'm not sure it would work, but it's not impossible.
Thanks, I thought that, using a midi interface, coz a USB to USB won't work I thought as data is not known where it is going or coming from
@@ericdelalande1360 Yeah but USB port are used for midi in and out, so I think you should try ! The info about where the midi message is coming from is sent each time you trigger a note, so I could work...
Oh ok 😊
You have to use a box like the Kenton Midi USB host ; m.thomann.de/fr/kenton_midi_usb_host.htm
can you add any of the effects to the Acoustic Piano?
Yes you can !
3:56 sounds so familiar. Are you just noodling or are you playing something well known?
Great demo and I looove that abalog delay sound so much. I might need to get me a CP.
Complete messing around here 🙂But maybe I'm unconsciously inspired by something. Why does it remind you precisely ?
@@LaBeatrie I couldn't say, the notes between 3:56 and 4:00 together with that warbly dreamy vibe just sounded lovely and familiar, but maybe I just watched this video months ago and I forgot :p
(Btw, can you add Fx to the Hidden Piano sound?)
@@OttosTheName (Yes you can ! all of them)
@@OttosTheName Sounds a bit Boards of Canada to me don't know if that's what you were thinking
@@LaBeatrie I don't think distortion works with the hidden piano (at least on mine), but everything else does!
Damn I like toy piano sound
Hey do you know if I would be able to use a Yamaha dx7 as a full sized keyboard the same way you have yours set up
Hey there ! The DX7 has a midi output, so yes ! You just have to connect this output to the CP's midi input with a standard midi cable. Then you should turn on the DX7, and turn down its volume. Unless you wanna hear both keyboards.
@@LaBeatrie thank you so much man!
I really love E-pianos(electro mechnical) and also this honourable emulation. Im gratefull it exists, its portable, it sound really convincing, has all the effect on your fingertips to be creative :)
The toy piano is abit odd to me, whish they would've put an lesser know EP there instead. Something like an Kawai EP-608 or Maestro 612p, or some other Rhodes model. Still hoping they might update it with a new e-piano or something.
After all this time past its release, I sadly don't think it'll ever get any update ! But it would be awesome :)
Love the demo! Have you done some velocity processing? Your acoustic piano sound sounds really bright and nice. I'm having trouble with the piano sound coming out too muddy (when playing the built in keyboard).
Hey there ! Thank you for that kind comment 🙂Actually the only thing that could impact the velocity processing here is that I use an external keyboard. An pretty old one with a poor response, so yeah maybe it sounds different than with the built in one. Because de Reface's keyboard is extremely sensitive and expressive, so it doesn't sounds really natural with the acoustic piano sound, in my opinion.
@@LaBeatrie That explains it! I really need to get another keyboard to use with it! Thanks!
@@nilsbergendal You can get any arranger keyboard (with midi out) in a second hand shop, they can cost you like 10 or 20 bucks, and do the job ! Else, a midi keyboard like an Oxygen, a Keylab or whatever will do to
@@LaBeatrie Yes, although I will start with trying my old synth a Roland JX-10 to use as a MIDI keyboard, problem with that is that last time I tried it, it seemed to put out very weak velocity (non adjustable). Need to check that with MIDI-OX..
Otherwise, definitely another midi keyboard needed! :-)
Riders on the Storm was done o na Rhodes...not the Whirly.
True story, but I prefer the Wurli on the CP.
thanks for that secret piano. will it destroy the keyboard if you keep on doing that secret sound?
I'm happy that you discovered it with my video ! You can use it as much as you want, it will never cause any damage to your keyboard 🙂
@Mahen Ounet I really don't think it can cause any harm to the selector. At least, for now I have no problem ! Anyway, yeah the CP is kinda close, it's from the famous CP80, an electric grand piano release in 1978, but there's some kind of chorus/stereo effect, and some amp simulation. So it really sounds less "natural" for me.
How did you connect that to the cp?
With a midi cable 😊 From the midi out of the big keyboard to the midi in of the CP. The thing is that the CP has no standard midi I/O, there's just one tiny midi port. You need some kind of splitter that give you the 2 midi sockets from that tiny one (the splitter was in the box when I bought the CP).
La Beatrie Ah, thank you for the quick reply!
@@LaBeatrie the splitter cable comes as standard with each Reface, well they came with both my CP (purchased this month) and YC (last month) love them both and especially now I know how to obtain the hidden acoustic piano, although like you wish it could’ve replaced the TOY option. At some point I will investigate into the remote keyboard (as you’ve done via midi connection) I see you mentioned above it’s a no go with the P125, would that be the same with my P255. Having said that the P series hammer keys are great for acoustic piano but not so great for other stuff like organ playing etc so I’d probably buy a cheap keyboard like you have although maybe not 88 but 61 or 73 for ease of moving about and space etc. Thanks for your brilliant video some interesting stuff you come up with including an alternative take on Green Onions love Booker T & the MGs
@@jameswood3977 Wow thank you for that great comment 🙏 ! I checked about the P255, and it has a midi in/out, so you can connect it directly to you CP 😊
What are you using as a controller?
I'm using the Yamaha PSR-300. I old and cheap keyboard from the 2000s. A few sounds from it can be interesting, but I'm using it mostly for its full size keyboard
@@LaBeatrie how do you connect betwen them??
Super great video Sir!!!!
@@crispyexperience7782 Thank you man ! 😀I just plugged a midi cable from the MIDI OUT of the PSR to the MIDI IN of the Reface. The only particular thing is that the Reface has only one tiny midi socket for midi in and out. You have to use a splitter to get the two separate full sized sockets.
Nailed it!
Did you get one ?
How do you set it up with the larger keyboard?
You just need to connect the midi out of the second keyboard to the midi in of the Reface.
But the Reface has just one socket for midi in/out and it's a little smaller than normal. So you need some kind of splitter that you plug into that that gives you a normal midi in and out. For me it was given with the keyboard when I bought it.
I hope I helped you ! Don't hesitate if you have other questions 😊
@@LaBeatrie Thanks man, you're awesome!
@@nicclai You're very welcome my friend
These are very cool but if you spend about 30 more bucks you can get keyscape.
True story, but my point now is to have plug-and-play machines, no virtual instruments anymore that require a PC. Do you own a Keyscape licence ?
the Reface hardware may cost 30 bucks less, but may last 30+ more years
uyauabing why would the hardware last longer than software that you can take with you onto a new computer? Once you buy keyscape you can put it on a flash drive and transfer it through the years. The hardware gets used and is mechanical which eventually wears out
@@dentninja It may be true. Hardware 'wears out'. I'm still working with a 37-year old DX7 that was never serviced. Ditto with a 42-year old CP-80. Software, though they may be better jack-of-all trades , usually won't last more than 5 major OS cycle updates. Software may be discontinued. Licenses expire. Software companies may go under. I can't even use favourite VST plugins from 2007 anymore.
uyauabing Yamaha does make great stuff!
Hey nice delay loop jam!!! That’s one of my favorite things to do with my CP. you can make the digital one play drums too by tweaking the knob in the middle of a loop, or creating a drum pattern with any sound and a little knob chaos
The tones of the “drum set” are pretty intriguing
Thank you for the tip, I'll try that for sure ! 🤜💢🤛
@@LaBeatrie yea for sure. It’s kinda whacky but so fun
And the rhythms too
What do you think is better the dx or cp?
I think the DX is way more versatile, because it's a proper synth. You can probably get some nice electric piano sounds from it too. I never tried it tho...
The CP is different. This is only emulation of real electric pianos (and an acoustic one). High quality emulation. And it is much more plug and play I think, no sub menus and stuff...
Both seems really powerful and fun to play. I wish I got both !
@@LaBeatrie I like the patch memory on dx but couldn't I just get the sounds using dexted or another vst. The CP sounds likes its a lot harder to find a vst for I'm mainly going go use this with my pc as a midi too.
@@lalaelien You are probably right. The DX is easier to replace with a VSTs in my opinion... Even if Rhodes and pianos can be as well (Arturia V collection, Kontakt...). I think the CP is a more essential physical tool in a studio (eventually in addition to a nice fullsize midi keyboard... but the inner keyboard is already very very expressive and playable).
@@LaBeatrie Thanks, I think I'll go with the CP for sure.
@@lalaelien There's a connecting app by Yamaha to store and select your different (endless) personal CP sound settings...
the Piano patch sounds like coming from PSR models
Is this a good thing or a bad thing for you ? (I know the "piano" sound from my PSR-300 is pretty shitty...). Anyway, this is not one of the 6 main sounds of the keyboard, it's not even supposed to be playable by customers... Check @Keith Edwin Smith comment right there on this video, he explains well why this piano sound is embed in this machine.
La Beatrie yeah PSR piano sounds very midi, but at least there’s a secret piano patch embedded there, everybody needs piano sounds even of it’s not that good sounding. The engineers embedded that sound for testing purposes
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Dr Mix at 0:19 😂
😂😂 Hehe yeah he's always that enthusiastic
Seems expensive to me. This demo shows you really also need a larger keyboard connected to the CP which makes it practically just an effects unit
I'm talking about sound here. The larger keyboard is only here to have more keys, but doesn't produce any sound. The Reface sounds exactly the same with it's inner keyboard. It's even more expressive because the quality of the keys is way better than the one I use in the video.
However, I understand your feeling. It is a bit expensive, but it definitely worth the price in my opinion.
Toy piano sound is a waste. All the others are great. Why would Yamaha put that in there?
Next time pls play the actual keyboard... Jesus Christ
You can call me La Beatrie
That will sound exactly the same :-))))) LOL or look at ruclips.net/video/bCPQUsRbDsc/видео.html if you want to hear :-))
Shivan Smyth : you are an idiot the sounds are still coming from the reface CP
He is, he's just using the other keyboard as a controller in order to have more flexibility.
@@LaBeatrie Best reply :)