Archer Air Guns were on vacation, reopened today. I called and spoke to Mr. Archer, he is very professional and helped me decide which air rifle i need for what i am doing. I feel very secure in my purchase and anxiously waiting for my rifle. The website is very good and customer service is great.
That website is awesome! And for those who say it doesn't exist, it does all you have to do is type in archer airguns on Google and the first thing that comes up is the website
He is doing this for people that never shot,,,anything,,,in their lives, and that's good at getting young and old shooters started. Shooting most all Long Guns from .22 Cal to 300 H&H Mag I have found my Gamo Bull Whisper to be a hoot and I can shoot for hours with an ammo bill of a couple of buck. And still I find it performs like a well built Small cal rifle. I like it.
I have that Crosman in my collection, It's a fun rifle, and yes, you CAN add a bipod and still pump the lever. Because of the design there is no "recoil", and therefore the gun does not "feel" particularly like a powder-burner, if that's a goal - like with many of the new "blow-back" action weapons. I have used both red dot and laser sights and even a tactical light - although the included iron sights work great out of the box. Great value for target plinking esp w/ pellets.
adding oils to smooth bore or riffled bores on air riffles at the base of the first pellet will enhance the pressure behind the pellet by sealing any small gaps between the pellet and the barrel. Issues to be know are any foreign residue deposited in the barrel will change the way a pellet travels through the in a different way each time the air gun is used. If you are after more power and greater long distance shoots you should up grade.
sorry missed a word in a part of my comment. Issues to be know are any foreign residue deposited in the barrel will change the way a pellet travels through the barrel in a different way each time the air gun is used.
I'd love to view what is discussed in this video.... but there is no "comparison" or "rating" system visible on the website. The website itself is very poorly built/executed, difficult to navigate, and unless you know specific names of the products you're looking for..... very difficult to find.
My favourite is the Beretta CX4 Storm - do you have one in stock - {just the CX4 itself, not including that stupid stand and scope} ... the video helped in that on 2 counts you used the CX4 to identify 2 low counts ... so weight and ease of use BUT it's confusing, low rate for easy to shoot for the CX4 storm, but for weight you showed a Crosman Nightstalker - i'm assuming the Crosman is a CX4 rip-off
Hi Stephen Archer, I would like to know what score you would give to an Weihrauch HW 90K 177. some people say this gun is hard to use due to its weight me being strong I find this gun to be the best on the market very accurate with accupell pellets.
I was hoping that the "Rate-A-Gun" score would indicate whether an air gun is a top quality work of high craftsmanship, or whether the air gun is a piece of junk. That doesn't seem to be the case.
Just watched this video and am looking at your website. In the video, you say that a scope will lower the RateAGun score for a gun. Why doesn't a red dot sight affect this score? I see that the scoped Crosman 760 has a lower score than the 760 without a scope, while the 760 with a red dot sight has the same score as the non-scoped 760. I realize a red dot is not the same as magnification, but the purpose of each is to make aiming easier, is it not?
According to his ratings, my Hatsan 125 is a 10.1, and I can get groups as low as 1.5 inches at 50 yards. I don't consider it a crap rifle, maybe too hard for most to shoot, but is that a reason to take it away from those who can shoot it properly?
i have tried placing an order and every item is out of stock that i wanted, i emailed the store and explained i wanted to place an order, i have not received a reply. please help
I like my GAMO Bull Whisper EXTREME .177, but it also comes in .22 which either of these should have all of the take down power that you need, and they are breakbarrel guns with competition style stocks. Made in Spain. Under $300.
Do you like the walther talon magnum .22? I orderd one from you a couple days ago =D And also a quick question, if I chose the least expensive shipping do you know how long it apporximately takes to arrive in california? Thanks.
Sure would be nice if your description contained a clickable link to the website. (The entire point of the video.) Or if the description even MENTIONED the website at all.
One year ago I bought a .177 RWS Diana 34 T06 and without a scope it shoots well, but with a scope it was very hard to shoot accurate, I had to change my position A LOT to finally become (relatively) accurate. I use a Hawke 4x32 and I now have 1inch groups from 10m, with artillery position. But I would like to become more accurate. Do I need a new scope? (eg. hawke 4-9x42) or are my pellets not good? I use RWS Superdome. Please give me some advise.. Thanks already :)
Wzawah loose the scope completely. Get some cheap binoculars to see your target hits ,saves walking. Shoot alot. Learn the" feel" of the gun and how the pellets react to air and how different shapes effect velocity and drop. As anything nothing beats practice. I don't recommend PCP guns unless you you you feel like carrying a pump around. Spings are great to learn on! Oh and Never Ever use a scope!
im looking to buy a pellet gun and i dont know enough about them to know what to buy. ive only just gotten into pellet guns so if anyone knows a particular model that isnt to pricey please message me some info thanks.
I don't see anything wrong with his rating system. He is just taking a different approach. It's not based on how good or bad a gun is, it's simply based on if a gun is easy to shoot or more challenging to shoot. Most resellers don't want to rate their products on a scale of "good" or "bad." Because then they wouldn't sell the "bad" ones. Any reseller will want you to think ALL their products are good, and that what you choose is simply based on your specific needs and abilities etc.
+Ian Mangham Thank you that is very helpful. I just wondered if I was getting the full power out of my Rifle, and always wondered if the spring had weakened to some degree. I have recently changed all the seals, but when doing this I put the spring back, as it looked ok to me. I tend to judge its power by pellet penetration in wood planks, but that is not particularly scientific is it? I have always wondered how to know if any air rifle is delivering its full power?
+Ian Mangham Thanks again. One question... once I discover the speed and the foot pounds of my rifle, how do I know if those figures are attaining to the actual full potential of the rifle, or what may be claimed by the manufacturer specs?
The rating score is a bit silly, but I suppose I see its merits. Hardly a rule to follow, but a good red flag to notify you of special details that should be looked into. "This looks nice, but it has a high number. Should check out just why it is like that."
This is the DUMBEST way to "Rate" a gun!!! Its confusing and just not a very viewer friendly way to "Rate" a gun. It will confuse people more than anything else!!!
Let me get this straight. More accurate guns are rated less because they are easier to shoot. Where higher rated guns take special skill to shoot accurately. BULLSHIT! Better guns are more accurate and the only extra skill you need is the ability to pay for the quality. If you can pull a trigger, you can pull a trigger. The challenge for skilled shooters is not to get a gun that is less accurate and then challenge yourself to hit the target. The challenge is to hit smaller targets at longer distances.
He talks about a bunch of factors, but it's really a rating on how hold-sensitive the thing is. Using a typical highpower or smallbore stance with most springers will result in awful groups.
From what I read on the RateAGun listing, I do NOT trust these scores. They're probably based on YOUR opinions. What's good for one person may be bad for another. I have a Crosman Nitro Venom Dusk and a Crosman Phantom, both with scopes. The Phantom is VERY easy to operate, comfortable, nearly idiot proof, yet rates a VERY HIGH score of 10.8 !?!?! I checked others and even the simplest youth rifles get high scores like the Gamo Recon (7.5), Crosman Raven (7.0) and Ruger Explorer (9.5).
well...since the airgun industry doesn't use this scale, and doesn't print it's "rate-a-gun" score on the box, this is just plain silly now isn't it? you're better off just doing your own research like airgunners always have...that way you at least learn something about the differences of each gun, and you will have at least a working knowlegde of your gun's specific operation before you buy
The only place that has those "rate-a-gun" score is on his website. He's just trying to get people to buy from his website. Which interestingly enough, doesn't exist...
Pellet rifles, the Good ones, can help with aiming and accuracy without putting a big dent in your ammo supply. No days with the DHS and other Gov't agencies buys up billions of rounds it is hard to resupply....I say that knowing that THAT is the reason for the ammo buy up with OUR Tax dollars.
Well reasoned and potentially helpful. I say "potentially' because apparently not everyone has the same functional IQ. As shamefully illustrated by a few people whom simply cannot move along to something else. Instead they feel the need to share their ignorance and lack of class with us and for all the World to see. I thank You Sir, for Your commitment to this sport and to the proper enjoyment of same. Cheers!
Basically It's about buying his rifles from his own web page full stop, ask an ex sniper from a seals team to use any of his air rifles and we will see how it scores up. The only people that know how to shoot well with air rifle especially just .177 pellets and at 100 yards without a scope are those people who know how to suit to adjust on the fly and still get bull's eye hits every time, then add the scope and its over 98% hits all the time no matter what the weather or outdoor conditions are with a couple of exceptions like a snow blizzard of extreme winds over say 10 meters per second ?
That is the stupidest way to rate a gun.. If no ones ever seen this video and saw your site, they'd think a 10 is the best most accurate gun while a 3 or 4 gun is terrible. Even though its the opposite most likely
All you have done is rated guns that are best FOR YOU, and a slim elderly gentleman with noodle arms is not a good representation of people who are just getting into air gunning. You rate some of the best spring rifles ever made as a "challenge" to shoot and some of the worst made co2 crap as the best. How anyone can rate a Crosman 1077 without a scope as better than Weihrauch HW95 WITH a scope is beyond me.
Thep1coco Because for whatever reason, they no longer ship ANYTHING to canada. This was confirmed by an email sent to me from the company. In my opinion, that rates a zero. I will admit that I am disgruntled because Archer is the only company that carries a mod that I greatly desire. Poo!!
Jj Ash no matter how good a gun it doesn't matter if it won't ship to you. i dont pity you since these guns dont seem......good. idk, i wouldn't trust a company that placed the gamo shadow at 10.7 and a diana below it...
Archer Air Guns were on vacation, reopened today. I called and spoke to Mr. Archer, he is very professional and helped me decide which air rifle i need for what i am doing. I feel very secure in my purchase and anxiously waiting for my rifle. The website is very good and customer service is great.
IS this guy in the US? His accent is clearly British and is confusing me
yes, new york
That website is awesome! And for those who say it doesn't exist, it does all you have to do is type in archer airguns on Google and the first thing that comes up is the website
He is doing this for people that never shot,,,anything,,,in their lives, and that's good at getting young and old shooters started. Shooting most all Long Guns from .22 Cal to 300 H&H Mag I have found my Gamo Bull Whisper to be a hoot and I can shoot for hours with an ammo bill of a couple of buck. And still I find it performs like a well built Small cal rifle. I like it.
Excellent work. Very informative! Thankyou for taking the time to do this video and explain your rating system.
I have that Crosman in my collection, It's a fun rifle, and yes, you CAN add a bipod and still pump the lever. Because of the design there is no "recoil", and therefore the gun does not "feel" particularly like a powder-burner, if that's a goal - like with many of the new "blow-back" action weapons.
I have used both red dot and laser sights and even a tactical light - although the included iron sights work great out of the box.
Great value for target plinking esp w/ pellets.
adding oils to smooth bore or riffled bores on air riffles at the base of the first pellet will enhance the pressure behind the pellet by sealing any small gaps between the pellet and the barrel. Issues to be know are any foreign residue deposited in the barrel will change the way a pellet travels through the in a different way each time the air gun is used. If you are after more power and greater long distance shoots you should up grade.
Do you know the score for the Ruger Blackhawk Air Rifle .177 Cal?
Could not find website.
sorry missed a word in a part of my comment.
Issues to be know are any foreign residue deposited in the barrel will change the way a pellet travels through the barrel in a different way each time the air gun is used.
I'd love to view what is discussed in this video.... but there is no "comparison" or "rating" system visible on the website. The website itself is very poorly built/executed, difficult to navigate, and unless you know specific names of the products you're looking for..... very difficult to find.
I just bought a Benjamin Marauder here. Nice and knowledgeable. I wish would have bought the Gold Service Test.
Thx a lot for the tips and the info! Best wishes from Uruguay, South America =)
My favourite is the Beretta CX4 Storm - do you have one in stock - {just the CX4 itself, not including that stupid stand and scope} ... the video helped in that on 2 counts you used the CX4 to identify 2 low counts ... so weight and ease of use
BUT it's confusing, low rate for easy to shoot for the CX4 storm, but for weight you showed a Crosman Nightstalker - i'm assuming the Crosman is a CX4 rip-off
Hi Stephen Archer, I would like to know what score you would give to an Weihrauch HW 90K 177.
some people say this gun is hard to use due to its weight me being strong I find this gun to be the best on the market very accurate with accupell pellets.
Should a beginner choose .22 or .177 to begin ? Thanks
I was hoping that the "Rate-A-Gun" score would indicate whether an air gun is a top quality work of high craftsmanship, or whether the air gun is a piece of junk. That doesn't seem to be the case.
For "hunting", chose .22.
For target, and variety in weapons, I prefer .177.
Just watched this video and am looking at your website. In the video, you say that a scope will lower the RateAGun score for a gun. Why doesn't a red dot sight affect this score? I see that the scoped Crosman 760 has a lower score than the 760 without a scope, while the 760 with a red dot sight has the same score as the non-scoped 760. I realize a red dot is not the same as magnification, but the purpose of each is to make aiming easier, is it not?
According to his ratings, my Hatsan 125 is a 10.1, and I can get groups as low as 1.5 inches at 50 yards. I don't consider it a crap rifle, maybe too hard for most to shoot, but is that a reason to take it away from those who can shoot it properly?
i have tried placing an order and every item is out of stock that i wanted, i emailed the store and explained i wanted to place an order, i have not received a reply. please help
I like my GAMO Bull Whisper EXTREME .177, but it also comes in .22 which either of these should have all of the take down power that you need, and they are breakbarrel guns with competition style stocks. Made in Spain. Under $300.
Do you like the walther talon magnum .22? I orderd one from you a couple days ago =D
And also a quick question, if I chose the least expensive shipping do you know how long it apporximately takes to arrive in california? Thanks.
Hi i love your videos but do you ship your guns to the UK ?? if i buy them from your site thanks ..
Do you guys carry the Remington Airmaster 77? What is it's Rate-a-Gun Score?
was the gun you were holding in the biggining a stoger x5
dident think that the benjamin super streak was that long until I seen you shoot it
His name is "Archer"? Perfect.
Sure would be nice if your description contained a clickable link to the website. (The entire point of the video.) Or if the description even MENTIONED the website at all.
Im trying to order a scope and rings from your website but its not working. Is it because i Live in queens ny ?
One year ago I bought a .177 RWS Diana 34 T06 and without a scope it shoots well, but with a scope it was very hard to shoot accurate, I had to change my position A LOT to finally become (relatively) accurate. I use a Hawke 4x32 and I now have 1inch groups from 10m, with artillery position. But I would like to become more accurate. Do I need a new scope? (eg. hawke 4-9x42) or are my pellets not good? I use RWS Superdome. Please give me some advise.. Thanks already :)
Wzawah loose the scope completely. Get some cheap binoculars to see your target hits ,saves walking. Shoot alot. Learn the" feel" of the gun and how the pellets react to air and how different shapes effect velocity and drop. As anything nothing beats practice. I don't recommend PCP guns unless you you you feel like carrying a pump around. Spings are great to learn on! Oh and Never Ever use a scope!
Hello, i am looking for salvia 631/634, but they re not on your page, could you rate them for me?
I can't find the QB78, what is the score for that?
Thank you this helped me!
I would ask what my gun is rated but I lost the box so I have no idea what model it is. :S
what is the score for the gamo hornet
CAN I ADD A GAS PISTON TO ANY KIND OF BREAK-BARREL RIFLE AND GET BETTER PERFORMANCE
hey stephen what is the artist called that does your intro jingle?
whats the name of the site?
im looking to buy a pellet gun and i dont know enough about them to know what to buy. ive only just gotten into pellet guns so if anyone knows a particular model that isnt to pricey please message me some info thanks.
i was wondering if you order to england ?, if so it would be great
Why no Brococks on your site?
They are great rifles & British too!
What would be the score for the Slavia 618?
The website doesn't exist....
So much for that..
Thanks Archer - Merry Christmas and Prosperous 2013 :)
i like your intro music
what would you rate a benjamin trail np 22cal
10.1 doesn't mean the gun is crap, he clearly states that it takes more skill to shoot one accurately, which you just said in a different way.
I don't see anything wrong with his rating system. He is just taking a different approach. It's not based on how good or bad a gun is, it's simply based on if a gun is easy to shoot or more challenging to shoot. Most resellers don't want to rate their products on a scale of "good" or "bad." Because then they wouldn't sell the "bad" ones. Any reseller will want you to think ALL their products are good, and that what you choose is simply based on your specific needs and abilities etc.
@archerairguns does the Leapers 4-16 x 50AO Full Size Scope fit on a gamo whisper .117?
This site can’t be reached archerpelletguns.com’s server IP address could not be found.
that is what reviews are for. a company isn't going to rate it's own product on sheer quality, then everything would be a ten.
how about the airforce condor.
How can I test the FPS of my air rifle?
+Ian Mangham Please explain?
+Ian Mangham Thank you that is very helpful. I just wondered if I was getting the full power out of my Rifle, and always wondered if the spring had weakened to some degree. I have recently changed all the seals, but when doing this I put the spring back, as it looked ok to me. I tend to judge its power by pellet penetration in wood planks, but that is not particularly scientific is it? I have always wondered how to know if any air rifle is delivering its full power?
+Ian Mangham Thanks again. One question... once I discover the speed and the foot pounds of my rifle, how do I know if those figures are attaining to the actual full potential of the rifle, or what may be claimed by the manufacturer specs?
The rating score is a bit silly, but I suppose I see its merits.
Hardly a rule to follow, but a good red flag to notify you of special details that should be looked into.
"This looks nice, but it has a high number. Should check out just why it is like that."
Are you still in business?
Whats the web site
Nothing like a unabashedly self-indulgent commercial.
This is the DUMBEST way to "Rate" a gun!!! Its confusing and just not a very viewer friendly way to "Rate" a gun. It will confuse people more than anything else!!!
i like how this entire vid is just promoting their store.
Thank you.
why is it so hard to find out features of these pellet guns? A bunch of vague info.
weirauch hw80k bombproof 1" grouping at 40 yards comes in a caliber of your choice
My gun isn't on their
So, YOU own a company, I Saw YOU Blink at 3:32!!
bsa hornet?
Let me get this straight. More accurate guns are rated less because they are easier to shoot. Where higher rated guns take special skill to shoot accurately. BULLSHIT! Better guns are more accurate and the only extra skill you need is the ability to pay for the quality. If you can pull a trigger, you can pull a trigger.
The challenge for skilled shooters is not to get a gun that is less accurate and then challenge yourself to hit the target. The challenge is to hit smaller targets at longer distances.
Twins22R it means stuff with a higher score requires more skill to use and stuff with a lower score is easier to use.
He talks about a bunch of factors, but it's really a rating on how hold-sensitive the thing is. Using a typical highpower or smallbore stance with most springers will result in awful groups.
From what I read on the RateAGun listing, I do NOT trust these scores. They're probably based on YOUR opinions. What's good for one person may be bad for another.
I have a Crosman Nitro Venom Dusk and a Crosman Phantom, both with scopes. The Phantom is VERY easy to operate, comfortable, nearly idiot proof, yet rates a VERY HIGH score of 10.8 !?!?!
I checked others and even the simplest youth rifles get high scores like the Gamo Recon (7.5), Crosman Raven (7.0) and Ruger Explorer (9.5).
well the first time i shot a gun was an weirauch 95 i had no problem what so ever :s i was hitting bottle caps and 30 to 40 yards
RateAGun(TM) sounds like CheckATrade which is also a rip off.
well...since the airgun industry doesn't use this scale, and doesn't print it's "rate-a-gun" score on the box, this is just plain silly now isn't it? you're better off just doing your own research like airgunners always have...that way you at least learn something about the differences of each gun, and you will have at least a working knowlegde of your gun's specific operation before you buy
The only place that has those "rate-a-gun" score is on his website. He's just trying to get people to buy from his website. Which interestingly enough, doesn't exist...
+JDMricist - Not too good at using Google, are you...? Links to the website are posted above.
+GlennMarshallRocks after all, the website has only about 10 guns on it anyway and the ratings ar not on it anymore.
hey steven, you're a cool guy!
ho about M4-177 bb/pellrt rifle
Screw this, I got a 9.3 rated gun and i'm not really experienced with rifles and it's extremely easy to shoot.
Genius!
The site was not user friendly at all. I looked at it then left. Never to return. Good idea but poor execution. :-(
Pellet rifles, the Good ones, can help with aiming and accuracy without putting a big dent in your ammo supply. No days with the DHS and other Gov't agencies buys up billions of rounds it is hard to resupply....I say that knowing that THAT is the reason for the ammo buy up with OUR Tax dollars.
Found website, didn't see rate a gun scores, think the pink shirts are stupid, site's selection is small, moving on.
Well reasoned and potentially helpful. I say "potentially' because apparently not everyone has the same functional IQ. As shamefully illustrated by a few people whom simply cannot move along to something else. Instead they feel the need to share their ignorance and lack of class with us and for all the World to see. I thank You Sir, for Your commitment to this sport and to the proper enjoyment of same. Cheers!
Basically It's about buying his rifles from his own web page full stop, ask an ex sniper from a seals team to use any of his air rifles and we will see how it scores up. The only people that know how to shoot well with air rifle especially just .177 pellets and at 100 yards without a scope are those people who know how to suit to adjust on the fly and still get bull's eye hits every time, then add the scope and its over 98% hits all the time no matter what the weather or outdoor conditions are with a couple of exceptions like a snow blizzard of extreme winds over say 10 meters per second ?
checked your website and the Crossman Nitro Venom Dusk .22 isn't mentioned.....any input on this gun is appreciated.
just visited your site and every pellet rifle has a high score WTF
THANKS T
why dont you just buy a .22
That is the stupidest way to rate a gun.. If no ones ever seen this video and saw your site, they'd think a 10 is the best most accurate gun while a 3 or 4 gun is terrible. Even though its the opposite most likely
Do you not answer your emails?
its not the rifle its the shooter
No Hatsan to rate on your website? Yeah right...
krb3K3 hatsan is bs
Vegeta what does the scout say about his RateSomeone'sBullshit power level ? ITS OVER 9000 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am looking for a gun that hard to shoot??? O..o
I'll just read the reviews of airguns on web sights such as Academy, Bass Pro Shop, PyramidAir, Amazon, etc.
All you have done is rated guns that are best FOR YOU, and a slim elderly gentleman with noodle arms is not a good representation of people who are just getting into air gunning. You rate some of the best spring rifles ever made as a "challenge" to shoot and some of the worst made co2 crap as the best. How anyone can rate a Crosman 1077 without a scope as better than Weihrauch HW95 WITH a scope is beyond me.
chris1275cc. I have noodle arms and I use a HW95K 👍
Niko
Exactly and this clown has it rated as "a challenge to shoot" when it's one of the easiest and most accurate springier available
its not the guns its the user of the gun
Mine is 10.
I find it easy and it was the first Air rifle ever.
So do not lie to people you american.
It doesn't matter about the age ok. My little brother is 6 years old and he had killed over 10 squirrels that's alright for his age
Apart from the hatsan mods, lol
My first air rifle ever. Sorry of that.
Never buy from a air gun supplier without knowing the rate-a-store score. If you are a canadian, Archer Airguns rates ZERO.
why?
Thep1coco Because for whatever reason, they no longer ship ANYTHING to canada. This was confirmed by an email sent to me from the company. In my opinion, that rates a zero. I will admit that I am disgruntled because Archer is the only company that carries a mod that I greatly desire. Poo!!
Jj Ash no matter how good a gun it doesn't matter if it won't ship to you. i dont pity you since these guns dont seem......good. idk, i wouldn't trust a company that placed the gamo shadow at 10.7 and a diana below it...
Because not everyone can buy a firearm.
Strange
Only killed 1 rat that isn't nothing