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little bit of Naval Dogfight action for us here today, sorry about no replays from the 1st round, the DCS track for that round was corrupted so I was unable to get any slow motion footage of the cobra tomcat. Anyway thanks for watching guys much love.
I want Tejas Vs jf17
its funny how tacview registers a F-18 F Super hornet as a regular F-18 C Hornet
sad
Shotgun is an instant legend... The guy who cobra'd a Tomcat and pulled 8.4G while doing it.
His work in the A-10 was the best.
"I'ma hit the brakes and he'll fly right by." - Yup. Sure did.
You're gonna do what?
Youre gonna do WHAT?
Exactly what I was thinking lolzzz
Yes he did
Gutsiest move I ever saw man.
"That Was Some Of The Best Flying I've Seen To Date - Right Up To The Part Where You Got Killed."-the other Jester
That line fits so well for that Tomcat in round 1. That was amazing flying on their part.
😂
He really did 'hit the brakes he'll fly right by'
Exactly! My thought was exactly that. And if GS had said, "Holy S**t! It's Maverick and Goose!" I'd've just had to shut off the video for a bit.
GS: _lined up for the killing shot_
Tomcat: "I'm about to do what's called a pro vodka move"
Iranian F-14 probably pilots be like
"Did he just Cobra a Tomcat?"
Ace Combat players, "First time?"
😅
Disregarding the new f14A dlc, the tomcat can’t cobra in any ace combat
@@srthebox4946 Welp, the comment made it a year before it was "well aktually 😒🧐" Just let the joke be man.
That moment when a tomcat corbras you.
Top Gun 2: “I’ve got a great Polaroid of it…”
Absolutely made my day
“Oohh shit too low, too low, that’s the ground, that’s the gr-“
_KILLED IN ACTION_
Casually plays the battlefield theme in the post fight "victory lap"
Do you know where I can download this particular version?
Pray tell
5:32 that was a straight-up Topgun move right there. Pretty sure you're flying against Mav.
Shotgun - “ima hit the breaks and he’ll fly right by!” *click click click....click click click*
That Tomcat pulled both a Maverick and a Goose on you. Should get a medal.
I just realized that Shotgun was in an "A" model Tomcat....
The Tomcat just looks so gracefull even when plummeting to the ground after stalling out. 🤣
After this Super Hornet mod I really want to see an F-14D in DCS
I wonder how hard it is to find information on it. The US might still have a lot of the upgraded avionics information redacted to keep the Iranians from getting any ideas on how to update theirs.
@@asgnecco from what I understand there is only one system still top secret, but it is included in a document that holds all of the weapon information, so they could make a D model fly just no radar or weapons.
My friend is working on the model for the F-14E Tomcat.
@@CH-pv2rz I am talking in reference to why there isn’t a D model already in dcs. Maybe if you learned context you wouldn’t open your mouth to make an attack on someone trying to provide information. And for the record if something is top secret the developer can’t get the information.
@@pogo1140 From what I understand those sources never really went into the type of detailed numbers required to accurately model it. Heat blur has Sid that they are trying to (through freedom of information act) get as much of the missing document as possible. From what I understand it was more like a lazy job censoring the content. They basically said this chapter has a system that’s top secret so we will just remove the whole chapter. Where in the a and a+ (latter B) they only removed that one section.
Going up against the F-14 is such a wild card. The jet literally can out run out gun and out turn you. The gamble is if you have a maverick flying it or a jester.
According to Navy pilots (there is a Sofrep article about this), in WVR the legacy Hornets is slightly better than the SH. The SH has more thrust and wing area (so a better sustained turn performance) but is slower to roll, especially when pulling G's. And it's worse when carrying ordnance under the wings. As the pilot says: the legacy Hornets is crisper.
In BVR the SH is obviously better due to its AESA radar.
Both Hornet and Rhino are less comfortable at higher altitude than other jets.
And I still want a DFCS F-14D Super Tomcat! 😁
The tom cat pilot had just about snapped his wings off and stalled out. He really hosed him with the gun too. Doesn't get any better.
Really enjoying the superhornet content!
داداش شما خودت هم این بازیو داری؟
Shout out to Shotgun. That was such an impressive move to pull and almost get the kill. Great piece of dogfighting
Man that first round was something else
He really did the cobra on you dude lmao what a good fighter
Damn GS, that Tomcat pilot definitely made you earn it in Round 1! Very good fight that was awesome to watch. Your channel has become part of my daily routine. After I get home from work and get out of my work clothes I relax with a cup of fresh coffee and watch kick ass dogfights on the big screen.
The F14 is probably the coolest looking jet when it's wings are closed
*swept, and yes it is truly
Or open
i swear on everything you must have been flying against maverick in the first round😂
I saw some old footage of a Tomcat undergoing testing and it easily pulled off a 90 degree "cobra" (120 is standard actually).
When you see Tomcat in the title, you know it's gonna be amazing
“Sir, I had Comader Sidwinder in my sights, I then proceeded into the Cobra and went for the kill. I only went below the hard deck for a few milliseconds. If I had 10,000 for a few seconds, I would have had the shot, there would have been no danger so I would have taken it. “
and the hard deck is actually the ground so this is an example Viper could use
"You took it !!
And follow a major rule of engagement xD.
Then you broke another one with that circus stunt attacking the ground!"
It’s a shame we don’t have a digital flight control tomcat to see how it maneuvers. Oh well maybe in a few more decades.
F-28 Tomcat II coming to a US Navy near you in 2040!
@@eric97909 IIRC, the F-14D was fly-by-wire.
F14 D has been rumored before
Funny you mentioned the cobra in the f14, My friends and I have been messing around in the tomcat and I managed to cobra and hover in place for about 20 seconds. We found that about 45 degrees is the absolute max you can risk pulling. Up around 50 degrees the wings snap hard, largest number we ever saw while breaking wings was 67 before wings snapped.
Just watched a documentary/movie called Tomcat Tales. Pretty much stories of real f-14 crews. They say the D was off the charts better than the A and B. Wonder when someone will get around to a F-14D mod
Looks like the E/F mod also increased the WSO's balls: We know a certain Jester that would have left you topless with that last second recovery to prevent a floor kill. :-)
That Hornet howl at 6:00 gives me chills. Love that jet.
I would have loved to see some ground pov stuff with that low altitude combat!! The sound in DCS is second to none and to hear a tomcat or mig slam into the ground a few hundred yards away always looks and sounds sick! Thank you for the consistent uploads and quality!
Excellent video! I just watched the video with the SU27 . All I can say is the F18F is a beast ! Can wait to see a video with you and Longshot versus multiple apponents!
"When I hit the brake, he will fly right by..."
Watching the Super Hornets flying around here all the time, I'm always amazed how slow they can fly and turn when it looks like it should fall out of the sky.
I see growling Sidewinder, I click. I see super hornet growling Sidewinder, my heart races. I see growling Sidewinder super hornet tomcat, i have to change my underwear and pants.
Bruh
@@CH-pv2rz that's nonya business
@@whalehands Keep the heart pills for when growling sidewinder super hornet super tomcat hits your feed
I have no clue about flying a plane, never played DCS but that tomcat move has left me mouth wide open.
That first fight was amazingly joyful to watch. Great flying both of you!
That howl at 6:16 was just lovely
The end to the first engagement was like the dogfight equivalent to watching someone trip, reach out, and try to grab someone else to drag down with them as they fall.
At least.. that's how my mind connected those dots in similarity.
This'll likely be an out of the blue request, but keeping with the theme of new vs old, do you think you could do a dogfight between the F-35 mod (if it still works) and the F/A-18E/F? I'd assume the F/A-18 would win in a gunfight, but I'd like to see how the 35 would fair in a fox 2 or fox 3 fight. Cheers mate!
F-35 mod is dead currently man but once it’s back up I can deff see what I can do in that regard.
That was some awesome flying...some of the best I've seen yet. Thanks!
Loving the Super Hornet content! This mod looks pretty great so far
How well is the back seat modeled on the F and G?
you can't go in them theyre just for show
@@GrowlingSidewinder that's a shame, maybe in the future?
"If he had a little bit more altitude, he might not have hit the ground" is usually the case with crashes into terrain.
I though you were going to show the ( first round ) maneuver. I would of love to see exactly what he did ... it looked crazy . Any way you can show that??? Thanks and overall good video
pinned comment will explain why I couldnt, but we did review it in tacview
@@GrowlingSidewinder understood...man would of loved to see thy F -14 ( my favorite jet fighter) do that “ Cobra “ like maneuver!! Any way you could try and replicate it??? I know your good if not the best ( that I have seeing) on the F-14.
Thanks
Nobody else noticed @Growling Sidewinder flying w/ his flaps down @8:30 and still dominating? LOL
it’s fly by wire constantly moving the flaps under load for better wing performance, it’s normal until 20 degrees alpha in almost every non canard fbw plane
1:04 def one of the greatest moments on the channel
INSANE first round! Shotgun took the Tomcat to a whole new level.. great use of the F18F btw GS! I need more Super Hornet!
5:29 top gun intensifies
That first round was amazing! Bravo, Shotgun!
That clip of the tomcat doing a cobra was insane. Very close match there. Love the content.
Amazing vid thank you! So exciting to see this matchup!!! :D
That Cobra maneuver was SICK. You should've got crushed on that one Growling!! Lucky, lucky...
Tomcat always brings new surprise to the fight
That tomcat cobra and then almost kill was the most ballsy thing I've seen in a long time. His speed and yaw control is probably what killed him but still super impressed and what choice did he really have tbh. Extend would've been the only option probably.
It's interesting how all the memoirs of navy pilots who flew F-18s in the 70s and 80s at the time would casually mention just eating up tomcats for lunch
Dang i'm incredibly early. And I just came from your F22 v JF-17 video haha!
I worked on the Flight Tests build up of the F18 Hornet, Aircraft 1 through 10, 1978 Northrop. It went into production not long after. Still a great Aircraft after all those years.!!
The Hornet always "Nose" where the enemy is
Wow, that first round really was one of the more exciting fights!
You've been having too much fun with the super hornet so far
RIP Maverick. That was some of the best flying I've seen to date - right up to the part where you got killed.
Plaudits to Shotgun for the “crazy Ivan” pull every trick in the book to get that F14 gunsight on the F18 what a first round, absolutely brilliant stuff!
Shotgun almost entering the DCS Hall of Fame for the most elegant defense to offense maneuver ever.
*Maxwell Smart voice* "Missed it by THAT much" ;)
They've got to do some reshoots for Top Gun 2 with a cobra 'cat...that was amazing and very inventive flying.
Love the Super Hornet! Excellent vid and very entertaining fight👍👍👍
What a fight, wonderful video as always, beautiful aircraft
I wonder what jester was screaming when that gforce cobra happened!
'my internals are now externals'
First fight
Tomcat RIO: What're you doing, you're slowing down, you're slowing down!
Tomcat Pilot: I'm bringing him in closer.
Tomcat RIO: You're gonna do WHAT!?
"Did he just cobra a Tomcat???"
_Post-Battle Results: +23 Player Karma_
That first fight was actually badass!
Anyone else confused on that oddly looking building that looks like its collapsing xD 6:16
Haha, now I see it thanks for the link... looks like some futuristic building out of Macross to me, not sure how it got there lol!
Le leaning building of Pizza
A Tomcat pulled a Cobra, almost hit you, stalled out, and crashed. Wow.
I just can't get over the fact that this Tomcat pilot pulled a post-stall maneuver.
What are you doing Maverick? You're slowing down! You're slowing down!
Maverick: I'm bringing him in closer, Merlin.
YOU'RE GONNA DO WHAT?!?!?!
Shit! He's gonna get a lock on us!
Maverick: Now!
...
GS: Impossible...
Shotgun: Not impossible, inevitable!
Holy shit that F14 really cashed in his chips on that first fight
Surprised Jester didn't eject again during that.
So F-14 cobra video next?
That Cobra was fucking legendary! Good lord.
I’d like to see this video with you as the 14 pilot
14:46 I'm bringing him in closer Merlin.
You're gonna do what?
I'm going to hit the breaks, he'll fly right by.
Compressor stall shot, amazing but hard to recover XD
I cant watch your old videos anymore because of that cloud update. Those clouds are that gorgeous my guy
dude I agree, I'm tempted to redo all the fights with the new clouds lol.
The way Shotgun dodge your bullets before pulling that cobra... 😯
Super Hornet vs Tomcat. Reminds me of Battlefield 3’s mission Going Hunting where you are in a Super Hornet and had a Skirmish with the Iranian Air Force, except you’re fighting the Tomcat.
Round 1: Tomcat before he pulls Cobra: I’M GONNA HIT THE BREAKS AND HE’LL FLY RIGHT BY!!!”
Did a Tomcat just out-cobra the Sukoy? AWESOME round 1! : - )
I hate how the jets beeping in the cockpit sounds like I’m at A fast food restaurant with all those machines beeping lmao
You don't half-ass things with a Tomcat, you do everything with glory.
True, if you half-ass anything while flying her, she will depart on the yaw axis and stall the compressors. And then you're out for a trip to the sea...
He did such a awesome move with the tomcat that I think even he got distracted
While the cobra worked but making another extreme turn to get his guns on him caused the F-14 to do a "flat spin". which causes the aircraft to stall and fall but however I'm impress that he recover right away when his spin towards the ground and stall but he was just too damn close to the ground.
Good one sir, as always! Great series!
No airplane will ever "replace" the F-14
If that tomcat had another 2500 feet the Fight would have swung for the Tomcat
Very very cool to see that, nice work dude!!
I only watching you and LS now. Thats was the gutsiest move i ever seen Shotgun. And a "where did who go" moment. A big 👍 up to dcs. I lost visual almost evry time before.
What if you did Hornet vs. Super Hornet, two rounds of best of 3 and you swap planes for the second set? Really enjoy your videos!
Tomcat: wait... if the MiG-28 is actually an F-5... then that must mean I'm a Su-27?