Guns N' Roses 'Appetite for Destruction' Inside the 1987 Album w/ Engineer Micajah Ryan - Interview
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- Опубликовано: 7 май 2021
- This is a full in bloom interview with producer/engineer
Micajah Ryan.
INSIDE THE ALBUM:
Guns N' Roses
Appetite for Destruction
Micajah talks about his experience recording 'Appetite for
Destruction,' the 1987 debut album from Guns N' Roses.
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Steven Adler was such a critical player for guns n roses,...never the same without him ,..
Absolutely Right, Never the same without Steven!
@@scotabot7826or Izzy
They all were critical. The best bands are one and losing any player kills the chemistry.
Yup, Adler got booted and Axl fancied himself a pianist. No thanks.
The bass sound on this album is incredibly underrated.
Amen to that. Duff was an absolute beast on that record. Just a monster. He and Adler laid it down.
Agreed. Appetite inspired me to play bass , and I've been playing ever since. I don't think duff's bass tone was nearly as good on illusions. His live sound got worse over the years, and I have to say , so did his playing - often sloppy probably due to alcohol. I think his playing got better again with velvet revolver
underrated? you mean one of the most famous, acclaimed, and popular albums of all time is underrated? You’re an ldlot.
everything is UNDERRATED YEAHH!!!
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After listening to several of your interviews, I gotta tell man, you are hands down the best interviewer/journalist music has ever had, period!
What a skill and talent. You are so complete package: I’m an Engenier and professional musician, and your tech questions as well as your music questions are so satisfying.
Thanks man for the amazing work you’re doing, in name of hundreds of thousands of us metal heads and musicians from the 80s.
WOW, man. Thank you so much. Every now and then someone makes your day. I appreciate that, my friend. Thank you for listening.
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@@fullinbloom Im also a musician and second this. Idk if you’re a musician, but you have great insight into music even if you aren’t which is incredibly rare. Most music critics I read have no idea what they’re talking about.
Appetite For Destruction was a monumental album! It sounded so different than everything else out at the time.
That record was released on my birthday July 21st 1987. I turned 15 and I still remember my mother driving me to house of guitars to buy the cd. Back in the day when you were stupid excited to put the new CD in the player and listen to it on the way home!!!
I wish record labels still had A&R like this today.
We might get actual good rock music again.
The days of looking for talent are over, they manufacture what the analysts say will sell instead.
I do to, there is no quality control anymore, nobody to say thats not good.
Whatever the social media algorithm shoves in your face, whoever has the right ideology, etc.
Lot more to do with that no one buys albums so record companies are obsolete.
@@tog2842 you think they have the resources to manufacture talent? Lol! All the record companies exist now is to find already existing talent with audiences. There’s no more resources to build anything anymore.
As for the Slash amp(s)100W 1959T (or 1959 amp) SIR (Tim Caswell #39) and a second amp SIR (Frank Levi #36) both were used. George Lynch rented #39 for touring and had not returned it yet, George even attempted to purchase #39 beforehand. So instead #36, it was substituted unknowingly onto AFD studio even though Slash requested #39 for the AFD sessions that had already started. Soon #39 arrived even though a second person had rented it after George. Slash tried to take ownership #39 by claiming it was stolen to SIR and insurance was ready to pay for it. Then a tech returned #39 to SIR by accident and the plot was foiled.
Someone has the #39 amp, as the demand and fame for it were through the roof and never rented again. It is out there.
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That's what I'm sayin'. Thank you, Douglas Lane!
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Agree 100%
So fascinating. One of my favorite albums of all time.
I was born in 74....this was the one of the few times in my life I got to see a seismic shift in rock and was old enough to enjoy it. they talk about hysteria being the Thriller of rock albums...maybe as far as hits, but appetite was the thriller as far as its effect on the music industry, and youth culture at the time ...I mean how many Axl roses did you see Halloween of 88....they changed the game with this album perhaps more than anything from the beatles era to the nirvana era....also sounds less dated than possibly any other album from that era...because it wasn't punk...it wasn't glam,,,it wasn't thrash...it wasn't grunge.....it was about as pure rock and roll as an album could be....so many great memories from my youth this album has been a part of.
I was born in the same year and feel the same about Appetite. Such a game changer
It was punk informed hard blues rock.
@@Gcssdvnkloiutesc100 percent....Duff came from the Seattle punk scene and Izzy brought the very, very tight blues. Mix that with the crazy unique, raunchy lead guitar and Adler bombing away. I honestly thought the band had two singers when I first heard the cassette a buddy of mine had. Too bad many of the songs on Appetite have been so over played that they are unlistenable now.....don't EVER need to hear Sweet Child again
@@scottlosey4978 Izzy was into punk as well. There is a lot of Ramones and Johnny Thunders influence in his songwriting. And how was Alder bombing away? Again, very punk, same drum kit as ramones. They all were into punk and hard rock. Slash the only exception he was more stones and Aerosmith. Basically guns was Aerosmith meets Sex Pistols.
Adler is essential to the early GNR sound not a band without him.
@@myworstenemy680 He did come back in CLeveland,Nashville,& Los Angeles.
@@myworstenemy680 You are forgetting about personal issues that are not known to the general public.
Being in a band is like being married to four other people.
@@myworstenemy680 I saw them opening for Motley in '87...and Slash spent 90% on his back laying on the stage...so the pot was calling the kettle black when they fired Steven.
word was Adler gave heroin to Axls girl. Game changer for just about anyone
@@BetrayerSlayerMusic "word". Adler's book definitely adresses that allegation. I tend to believe him, he admits enough damning character flaws, why would he lie about that? Axl had it out for him, didnt like him, fucked him over and villianize him so that he wouldnt have a conscience about it. People do that. Lol. In the end only people on the scene really know the truth, I can just draw conclusions and read between the lines. Guns at the end were good, guns with Steven was outstanding. Swing is hard to reproduce or acquire.
Talk too your daughter, is Robben Ford, nice chap meet him, that album was great especially for blues guitarists who wanted too branch out a bit
Greatest record of all time.
AFD was released while I was stationed in Germany and we never heard of them. I had shipped out and back home before next duty station and watched MTV and saw welcome to the jungle. Completely mesmerizing. Missed the beginning so didn't know who it was and absolutely hooked
You cannot imagine how long I've waited for an interview like this. Thank you!
Totally agree about his views on Izzy. Sure wish he was going to be a part of the new music they're making.
@Nightrain Rose Izzy's Back Catologue Is A Gold Mine:)Sweet Caress is the best song GN"R never did.
In Slash's autobiography he mentioned how the "when you're high" part in Welcome to the Jungle originally appeared twice in the song but their first manager suggested they cut it down to only one instance. I think that kind of input would have made the Illusion albums better.
That kind of input would make the entire genre good again. That's the strange state of the industry...the great thing is that technology has made it to where anyone can write, record, and release music. The bad thing is that technology has made it to where anyone can write, record, and release music. Double edged sword, and with less and less "gate keepers". It's just a shame the industry has the reputation of screwing bands so viciously that we're at the point we're at now. That's why we'll never have another GNR, Sabbath, Zeppelin, Nirvana etc.
I would enjoy to hear a fan edit of Use Your Illusion that cuts it down to 1 album of 12 songs.
@@DanielHuman1996 great idea!
@Greg Person the Napster thing has always blown my mind. The first move a Major label should have done is bought Napster and hired the kid who started it. You're 100% right. ITunes should have never existed as well. We should be buying music files either straight from the band's website or from their label's website. Why the hell would they let someone else sell their products they invested in, bands, from anyone other than them? Why let someone take a cut, ITunes, when labels could have bought Napster and the tech, sold it themselves, and made every penny? They were scared of change.
@Greg Person that's true. It's a shame that at the time they didn't see it for what it was or rather, what it could be.
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I remember when AFD came out, I couldn't believe how good it was. Still as good today. Best record of that era imo.
LA Guns and Faster Pussycats first are def up there too
@@Magikarplvl9000 LA guns dosen't have a bad record except American hard-core, and I dont really consider that LA guns. I've seen them many times and tracii is a beast of a player. Total dickhead as a person though.
No.
@@yannjodry7917 almost like its subjective.
@@yannjodry7917 that's why I said imo, do you know what that means?
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Agreed. These interviews are pure gold.
Badass interview! So worth it just to hear how Mike Clink mic'd up the cabs on this record!
Thank you, Wyatt. Glad you enjoyed it. I felt the exact same way when he told me about Clink's mic'ing technique. Priceless.
Great interview! Thanks!🎼
Great questions! Great interview. I could never get tired of hearing about how this masterpiece was made.
Great to see how a landmark album (and a personal favorite) came to be. Got to see them during the Illusions and recently, and I'm familiar with Hollywood Rode and L.A. Guns, and all the solo stuff.
So this is really the glue that puts all of this together. I think I'll be listening to this record differently from now on.
Awesome interview!!
Man, fantastic discussion. Really, really great stuff. Well done.
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Thank you for listening.
Thank you so much for this interview! What a treasure! And thank you, Micajah, for your part in GNR and some amazing music!
You are one of the best interviewers I’ve ever heard. Congrats on a magnificent show. Greetings from Melbourne Australia 🤘🏽🎸
That's one of the best comments I've ever read. Thank you, Robert!
AMAZING interview!!! Wow! When you see slash talk about the recording process of that album he talks about how he we get an idea and finish up that same night. I wouldn’t have thought it would take 3 months to finish all his parts.
Awesome interview. 😊
I wish I could give this video a thousand thumbs up!!!
You did, my friend. Thank you.
Awesome interview man. Thanks for this!
You interview well mate, the right questions and leave space for response.. brilliant thanks
Much appreciated. Thank you for taking the time to comment and listen!
I would love to know where on the album the 59 Les Paul copy came into play.
Been listening to these interviews lately & being a musician & growing up in this Era. It really takes me back to the times of playing listen recording & rockin out with friends & going to see all of theses bands. Thanks the late 70's -mid to late 90's ua just had to live it! Thanks for the reminder of all the shit good & bad! Good fuckin Times!
Best concert I have ever seen by a long shot. There was a lot more magic than just great songs and great musicians. GnR set the bar very high for live rock concerts. Do not miss these guys live, Mr. Bloom!
Rock bands are so inconsistent live. Both times I saw GnR live they were awful. Slash couldn't play in time or in tune and Axl's voice was shot.
@@JD-vj4go Agree with rock bands inconsistency. Maybe some combination of the dirty business, pressure, burnout, boredom, drugs/alcohol, and just moving away from dreaming of music.
@@JD-vj4go Winger moved from the butt of 90s jokes to the marathon winner. They still are on top of their game in concert with plenty of videos on RUclips to prove it. Reb Beach is a superstar for guitarists and the other guys also are excellent musicians. Impressive track record given the sad carnage of their peers in the rock industry.
@@dosgos I'm not a Winger fan at all but those guys can play. Reb Beach is amazing.
@@JD-vj4go Same here - but they are among the best in the business. That whole Bevis and Butthead scandal probably helped them over the long-term.
Loads of cool stuff in this interview damn
There are a few rock/metal albums that sound like they could have been recorded and released today. AfD is one of them. It still sounds fresh, modern, and killer after all these years, and I remember listening to this album riding with friends to school in 9th grade in the fall of 1987. Hats off to this producer for creating a timeless sound.
I imagine the studios did not know what to do with GNR at the time. Everything on the Strip from Motley Crue, Poison, Warrant, Pretty Boy Floyd (lol), was either contrived, bubblegum, or incredibly stupid. Regardless of what came later, the songs on Appetite are edgier and darker than their contemporaries and focus on addiction, insecurity, narcissism, and/or the general anxiety and uncertainty of “trying to make it.” Songs like Nighttrain, Mr. Brownstone, My Michelle, Rocket Queen, etc…
Oh damn I've never hit play so quickly!
I seen G&R for Appetite tour at Allentown Music Hall in Allentown, PA. Partied with band after show in old Club Pascal. Duff autographed a pack of Marlboro Light smokes for me. He was so wasted. What a show. It was awesome!!
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@@sdmbassist glad we had this learning moment
@@Vibeagain lol
i think we all knew that Izzy was the professional one in the band...by the books, had his shit together.
He had such great taste for that time -Georgia Satellites&The Broken Homes pre-saged stuff like The Black Crowes.:)
I've always thought that Izzy was the heart of GnR. If you listen to any of his rythym parts you can't deny the absolute genius of his writing. Slash got 95% of the attention and Izzy was criminally underrated.
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I gotta check out this band...
I hear they're pretty good. I'm thinking of checking out this sliced bread thing everyone is talking about too. I'll let you know.
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Thank you, Michael. Welcome aboard.
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This is one hell of a channel , during the GNR era I was into Slayer n Maiden . It would be sweet if you could get Dave Lombardo on here.
Love your interviewing style , great listener and killer questions, love the recording details you get into .
Cheers Baritone Cult -Michigan
Thank you, my friend. Lombardo is one of my all-time heroes, a bucket list interview for sure.
Dude... youve got bomb interviews.
Great as always! Only complaint is the guy was trying/about to discuss Izzy's amp and you went a different direction
Thank u
Amazing! Thannkyou!@#
Thanks,I used to live with. Vic who finished the engineering,I asked him about the record,he said slash still owes him 20 bux
Considering how popular and important the album is, it's amazing that no one else has ever interviewed him.
Robben Ford - “Sorry dude, i can’t remember your name”. lost me right there. What a piece of work this guy is.
Great interview! But we know what the amp was... Caswell modded 59 Marshall for the demos and then I believe a Levi mod that was based off that Caswell mod. He was asked to copy it as best he could because of the popularity of that amp. That's the legend of the SIR #39 ( Caswell) and #36 (Levi). Google search will yield the exact info. Lynch was hot for this amp too.
I love axl glam look …Very sleazy somehow 🔥🔥🔥
Wow. Ken-Dun recording. Haven't heard of that spot in ages.
Awesome interview- thank you! Curious what the unreleased “odd” tunes were from the acoustic session for Lies
I wasn't a huge fan of GNR but was intrigued by them. However this interview was more intriguing to me. Thank You!
Original lineup of huns was jus so perfect come together. Greats never meant to stay together its like lightning in a bottle
I love this album It's one of the greatest rock albums of all time. I'd put it in the top five. The snare sounds like a gunshot. The whole album just sounds amazing.
Great job bro! I'd love to see some video footage of the making of Appetite. Does anybody know if any is available anywhere?
I agree, it would be amazing to see what went on in those sessions.
Mike Clink on Pensado's Place told that on Axl they used an M49 (Neumann). Did they used the 47 tube for Appetite and then changed to the M49 for the Illusion albums?
Greatest Hard Rock Debut Album Period !
Hard to disagree..I put VH1 up there too
@@johnfoskey7855 Yeah in hindsight both equal.
Mr Clink said in another interview he used a Neumann 49 on Axl’s vocals. 🤔
When appetite for destruction came out changed the game. The bar got set so much higher. Most tryied to do it but didnt come close even even by fakin it. Guns didn't they were real deal tough dirty raw from the street.
Badass...
Slash has always said that Izzy refused to double track his parts, so if you were wearing headphones, the mix would be lopsided. So Slash said he went back in and doubled all Izzy's parts on the other side to balance it. So pretty much everything you hear on Appetite is Slash.
the cool thing about appetite is that izzy's rhythm is panned to the left and slash's rhythm is panned to the right, for the whole album. you can easily hear the two separate guys by just listening to one speaker or the other
@@bobdouglass8010 That’s whet Slash said- because they panned it, the album felt lopsided, so he went in and doubled Izzy’s parts on that side to balance it out
Nah that ain’t right. They each had rhythm tracks, Izzy is very clear and loud hard panned on the left hand side, and slash’ rhythm part is hard panned right. They’re playing quite different parts.
Then slash’ lead and fills are in the middle. Izzy’s actually clearer in the mix.
I went to a show about 5 years ago and I was so busy singing along I didn't even listen to Axl 😂 I had a whole aisle to myself on the side of the stadium and I literally was so drunk I ran up and down singing every line like I was Axl. I think I put on a show for the whole section lol
Edgy album. Love the sound. They wanted it to sound like they were playin live ina club. Got the perfect sound. Izzy was the genius songwriter. Slash and Duff too
I saw them in Baltimore before the record broke and the surprise was that they lived long enough to see success 😳
Rick Richards. GA Sats guitarist. Unbelievable people don't know his name. JuJu Hounds were very cool.
@full in bloom maybe more of a question for Mike Clink as well as Micajah but have you ever heard the story of how the banjo type sound came about on the intro to Paradise City? I'm curious why they went that way as opposed to a thin, acoustic or straight hard sound similar to what he does live.
Roland JC120
Appetite for Destruction is one of those albums you hear so often you kinda give it the Metallica treatement, aka you start to pick up only the negative, however everytime I listen to it.. man that's a good and unique album. I also played in bands where of course welcome to the jungle is ALWAYS on the set list of cover you first start doing when jamming with new people early on, and having learn Slash/Izzy part i'm always surprised at how busy Izzy is and the amount of part you attribute to slash playing that's actually him
I was hoping you would ask about the 'Rocket Queen' story. Too bad we didn't get the details, lol.
Yeah I know, but we kinda already know what happened from the girl's interviews.
i agree, that was the story that should have been told in detail...maybe a power point with videos and pics,lol
He did ask guys. And he said he wasn’t there but heard stories.
Damn, they were making live backing tracks for bands all the way back in 1986/87 3:40
Slash drooling was the heroin, trust me I know have been there. I did the same thing but of course that was 25 yrs ago when I was on that shit. And GnR never "reunited" three original members is not a reunion.
@ no doubt
I’m about to listen to the interview now but it should be noted that Mike Clink was the producer on this album and while Steve Thompson and Mike Barbieri mixed it. This guy was an assistant engineer among about 5 or 6 other assistant engineers on the album. Maybe when I listen I’ll find out why there were so many.
Micajah was much more involved than the other engineers. In fact, he recorded the 'Mike Clink' Megadeth albums almost entirely by himself because Mike was busy working with Gun N Roses on the Illusionzzzzzzzz.
@@fullinbloom Thanks, yes I listened to the interview, very interesting. I guess all the other engineers listed on the credits were involved in the initial drums and bass parts and later during mix down. I’m loving these interviews, thanks for your hard work!!!! I’d love a Mike Clink interview but unlike everyone else I’d like to know more about the Whitesnake Slip of the Tongue sessions. Anyway..best wishes!!!
@@vaughanband Thank you, Sam. I do have an interview with Adrian where he talks some Slip of Tongue. Of course I've hit Mike up several times but nothing so far. Fingers crossed. Thanks for listening, my friend.
@ full in bloom you are into the 1987 era of LA rock with the interviews you score, great stuff. I'm just curious though, have ever cranked the LA band Circle Jerks 1987 release VI, some in your face excellent aggressive rock stuff, not for solos, but the songs kick major ass, some would call it punk rock, but it is really well recorded with great production, anathema to "punk rock". It was on Combat, and I recall you interviewed people that put work for that label. Just curious..
I did jam that Circle Jerks album. You're right, the production is great. I was probably more of a thrash guy than anything else when I was growing up, so I loved Combat.
@@fullinbloom That Greg Hetson guitar sound is so good, great bass and drum sounds too, just meaty, with great melodic song writing, as catchy as anything from that time
Where is producer Mike Clink ? Is he still alive ?
He is. And this dude done an awesome interview with him, too.
Appetite is a Funk Record.Rocket Queen=Brownstone:)
That's fascinating,Izzy did his rythem&leads,after Slash in @3weeks:)
Who is the interviewer?
Axel (and the rest of ‘Guns) borrowed a LOT from Hanoi especially in the early days
best album, best line up. slash is a monster. one of my favorite voices, too bad he lives up to his name, w. asshole rose
Full in bloom - Would you mind telling us if you are a recording engineer or work in the music industry in some other capacity? You obviously know mics and recording related stuff like different kinds of boards, analog vs. digital recording...
Hi Mr. Logic Pants. Yes, recording engineer. There are some new tech-related interviews on the horizon.
@@fullinbloom Thank you for the reply. I used to be a semi professional musician back in the late 80's and early 90s. I grew up listening to most every band you have done an interview with and it is very cool to hear the producers talk about their experience with the bands.
It is very clear how much a producer plays a part in how much better (or worse) a bands song can sound. Cheap Trick is a great example of this if you ever hear a demo of surrender vs. the version that made it to the album Heaven Tonight.
Anyway, I enjoy all your interviews. Keep up the great work!
@@fullinbloom name or any notable projects you worked on? Great interviews, even though besides Guns N’ Roses and Ratt the era of rock you cover is not my favorite era. Ever consider interviewing Dave jerden who produced Janes addiction!? Janes was essential to the strip 80s rock scene.
Thumbs down cause this didn’t go for 5 hours. :)
Izzy wa so essential probably besides duff the best music songwriter
I think Axl sounds like Roky Erickson - Don't Slander Me
I heard they made him tease his hair, management or whoever was on the periphery
I think Izzy was the one who teased his hair/picked out the style for the band at first. He modeled his and Axl’s style after Hanoi Rocks
I’m guessing Poison and Warrant gave the downvotes on this one. GNR kicked the last of the hair bands right in the nuts. Appetite was music that punched you in your face. Metal needed this.
There will never be another band like GNR, great rock music is gone, replaced by cookie cutter crap, no soul, no originality. Great interview.
Appetite is the best album after Zeppelin 4. FIB...no use in seeing GnR live now. Its not the same. That first tour opening for Crue was the Peak. I witnessed it. It felt like something i wasn't supposed to be witnessing. Dangerous. Evil. And like hearing music for the first time...for me.