600 people showed up for the lady in the pouring rain a few days ago for the ghost bike ceromony! Hopefully they will reveal her name one day so she won't be nameless
it's an easy question to answer: $1000 is nothing to a construction company. that's barely a day's worth of cocaine. Our bylaw enforcement is pathetic. GET THE FINES OUT!
Merging into a lane without proper signalling and merging “when safe” is the law of the road. Sorry for the facts, but I’m not sorry. I wish people took more precautions when it comes to the responsibility of their own lives. Trusting strangers to look out for your neglect is foolish.
Rediculas, millions travel on bikes no problem they look when exiting bike lanes, due to 2 cyclists that didn't look as law requires before changing lanes was there own stupidity,as millions do so safely change lanes from bike lanes to vehicle lanes. Both were. Wreckless and would been charged for damages to vehicles being they broke laws failed to look and drove into a car lane recklessly.
This officer Karen should be fired giving pedestrian a finger when officers should be charged fined obstructing traffic, parking illegally for coffee seriously only in emergencies there Barbie and Ken know the laws you enforce and practice obeying laws. Can't be resoe tful as a officer shouldn't be representing a city.
*EVERYONE IS QUICK TO BLAME THE COMPANIES!!! WHAT IF IT WAS AN AMBULANCE OR FIRE TRUCK BLOCKING THE LANE? HOW ABOUT YOU STOP AND LOOK BEFORE SWERVING INTO TRAFFIC. YOU KNOW, THE THINGS YOUR PARENTS TAUGHT YOU TO DO AS A CHILD.* CAR LANES ARE CLOSED ALL THE TIME AND YOU ARE REQUIRED TO MERGE SAFELY INTO THE NEXT LANE.
One time a Costco truck cut onto the bike lane 10 meters ahead of me and started backing up. I had to jump off and pulled my bike onto the side walk. Not even sure if the driver saw me. This was on Bloor near Dovercourt.
It is. I always assume the drivers and pedestrians around me are gonna do stupid things. Bicycle bells are your friends. I got doored or almost doored many times. Or peds thinking they can stand on bike lanes while j walking. It's equally dangerous for peds. Cars going wrong way on one ways, not yielding to peds, not stopping at stop signs.
This is dumb, where do they expect the bin to go, can't put it on the side walk, can't put it in a live Lane, can't block loading dock/or ally way. Truth be told, that cyclist is to blame. She had a obstruction ahead of her, and instead of braking and finding a safe route around, she darted out into the live lane. I bet she didn't look over her shoulder to see if she had room to merge. I, as a motorcycle rider, always shoulder check before any lane change, and even while not changing lanes, just to be aware of what's around me. It's sad she lost her life, but ultimately it's her own doing, she could have come to a stop, and merged safely.
Yeah, she made a stupid decision. The real root cause is a lack of loading zones in Toronto. Other North American cities have entire blocks dedicated to loading zones for stuff like this. toronto is a shit hole. it aint a world class city, that's for sure.
Now the city will either propose shutting down the whole block from any traffic anytime a buisness needs to do construction 🚧 or ban bikes from the downtown core , and these same ppl that call for the company to be fined millions and owner to be jailed will cry about traffic and not being able to cycle downtown .....
How come no news agency is educating the public when talking about this. The rider should have stopped. Dismounted the bicycle, walked the bicycle around the bin using the sidewalk and than re enter the bike lane on the other side. Swerving out into traffic without looking for massive trucks is insane. Poor lady but she caused her own death not the bin.
Great advice, do tell us about that time you were driving along the highway and you had to suddenly veer out of the way of an enormous skip two private companies had left on the public roadway?
@@jsequine927 Something like that does not happen “all of a sudden”. I look ahead, and when I see something in my path I decide how I’m going to manoeuvre around it. That process includes doing a shoulder checking to see what is around me.
@@PeanutButter-19you mean take responsibility for your own safety and Do a shoulder check ? Not just steer into the direction you want to go and hope ppl can avoid you ??? Intresting concept lol
Where should the bins have been placed? Should the cyclist have stopped and did a shoulder check before entering the road? So many questions! Did the city hire the company using the bins? Or who did hire them?
Same place where driver should pick up and drop off passangers on bloor...AKA nowhere...But hey at least we have full lane size bike lanes for the 4 months people actually use them...
@JebusHypocristosX that's not the answer , it's not the company's fault , bikes should be on the sidewalk not the road that's the best answer I can come up with to this problem, because where else should the bin be left ? Any ideas?
No Criminal Charges just $1,200.00 in monetary Charges, sooooooo What: “Under the Provincial Offences Act, a Part 1 offence notice may carry a maximum penalty of $1,000 if the accused is found guilty at trial. If the accused elects to pay the fine out of court, the set fine for each of these offences is $200,”
@@WhocarezWhocarez-nw8ke Why do people go to the extreme to make a false point? If this was done legally, there would have been a safe, blocked off way for bikes to go around the bin and maybe a Cop directing traffic, downtown there is not much room and YOU can see if not done correctly, Lives are at Risk.
@DjWellDressedMan there was clear indication of construction up ahead , there were cones placed , if you choose to ignore the safety signs that's on you .....its like running a red light and blaming everyone else for not getting out of your way
This is life in the western world now. Blame everybody but yourself. Everyday I see the same crazy sh-t. Cyclists running red lights, stop signs, weaving around in traffic, riding on the sidewalks, riding up the wrong way on a one way, no lights at night, passing cars on the right as the car tries to turn right, riding down the centre line......this is the Toronto norm for cyclists for decades. Cyclists need to take responsibility for themselves. And yes I see idiot drivers running red lights all of the time. But who loses when that idiot meets an idiot on a bike?
My point exactly, you might have Right of way, but my 9980lb tow truck doesn't care about right of way rules, I can't stop on a dime. My truck will unalive you if you dart out and I don't see you. Il try to stop, but chances are, it will be ontop of you and your bike unfortunately. Ride safe cyclists, I really don't wanna pressure wash you off my chrome.
@@WildSideTowingRecovery I suspect none of these cyclists have ever driven a car let alone a huge truck. They have no clue how quickly they appear or never appear in a mirror. And when somebody has turned a little, they can't see any part of the bike lane because their mirror ain't pointing that way. So they come up at 35kph wondering why they nearly get hit? I ride, I drive....I respect the rules of the road.
So the solution will be more traffic ....close the whole street off each time a buisness needs to do renovations these ppl are delusional calling for the company to be fined and owner jailed ..... what are they supposed to do leave the bin on the side walk if that was even possible...
Ooooo, fines, a whole thousand bucks for a life. They would not put the bin in middle of a two lane road,, but bike lanes are regularly used for construction bins, trucks, and not to leave out all the regular drivers that thinm its a loading zones.
I experience bad drivers and cyclists daily. How do you veer out of your bike lane and into a live car lane??? Maybe ear pods and loud music don't help. Distracted cycling.
@@DoubleoP Same thing with pedestrians who try and cross the road without looking both ways constantly while you're crossing. Never understood why pedestrians and cyclists don't try their best to be aware of their surroundings and looking out for their own well being instead of trusting that others will do it for them.
Simple, she merged into live traffic and didn't safety merge by knowing the surrounding. There are obstacles everywhere in the city and being oblivious is not and excuse. Cyclist need to have insurance and licenses screw these excuse giving lawyers. Hold Cyclist accountable!
I agree with holding cyclists and pedestrians accountable for their own safety, but that doesn't mean drivers don't need to do their part to keep the streets safe as well. If everyone did their own part, there would be alot fewer accidents in the city and elsewhere and there would be alot fewer injuries and deaths.
@@UzumakiNaruto_ Drivers always do their part because a vehicle is a privilege and livelyhood for many. Driver accountability is regulated by laws and insurance and if not followed drivers get screwed while cyclist do what ever the fuck they want. Get a license kid and ull see how it works.
Remember the woman who got unalived by the turning truck. She was standing on the closest part of sidewalk near the roadway while on the phone as the truck was making a right turn and got taken out by the back tires. The times we are in now people are selfish and ignorant of their surroundings.
The bill for the junk removal on that bin alone will be more than 1,000$, the message sent will be human life is largely worthless. The bin company could not be bothered to set up some cones for bicyclists or even move the bin over slightly giving space to bike through. Of course the now dead bicyclist could have also dismounted the bike and walked around the bin on the sidewalk after which could have rode away on the opposite side side.
All she had to do was check her surrounding before changing lanes. I am saddened by the tragedy but cyclists need to be schooled on the rules of the road.
There were warning and cones set up around and before the bin , there's no where else the bin could be placed .....maybe they should close the road for everyone each time a buisness does renovations .....then sit in traffic all around that area given that's the only buisness doing construction.....there might be 2 roads open at a time in all of downtown, it's a bust city construction happens everyday I'm sure that's not the solution....maybe just ban bikes from inner congested cities ???
Did the truck hit the cyclist because the truck entered the bike lane??? No the poor cyclists was not paying attention and left her lane without looking to see that her path was clear before doing so. Cyclists in this city feel so entitled that applying the brakes or slowing down or even checking that their surroundings are safe is a foreign concept to them.
@liyan8385 no , your safety and common sense is up to you the individual, you can't expect construction not to have some exemptions , just like emergency vehicles, imagine if they really had to block off whole entire city blocks just for one store owner that wants to do a small renovation , or ban bicycles from the downtown core just because ppl can't handle their own safety.....this is very unfortunate but you can't blame the company for doing their job and trying to make an honest living
Cyclists should need to pass a road test demonstrating they understand the rules of the road, and they should all have license plates to identify them. Cyclists maneuver this city with absolute impunity and ignorance. It needs to stop. R.I.P to the young lady but she is at fault.
if bicycles follow the rules of the road the people would care more. u blow thru reds and stop signs and then cry when u get hit. if u follow the rules then people will care. i say this as a man who rides motorcycles and bicycles and yes i stop for all reds and stop signs.
Construction companies in Canada can do whatever they want many street they have construction equipment anywhere blocking lanes. They should be made accountable for this yonge lady was killed because a bin was blocking the bike lane. It's a joke what is happening here in Canada with the justice system is broken
So the solution will be more traffic ....close the whole street off each time a buisness needs to do renovations ...then you or any car or truck won't get to share the road ...so any time there's a project at any buisness they should shut down the whole street and create more traffic ......the whole downtown will be permanently shutdown to all bikes and vehicles, only pedestrians, thats basically what you would want to solve this
The problem with driving and cycling is that there is not enough room and traffic is bad.. drivers often can not see bikers in their vehicle and bikers feel that drivers are not paying attention.. the truth is that it is difficult for both alike because there is alot going on around them to pay attention too and its overwhelming .. making safe bike lanes and dividers is the only way to keep bikers safe .. because often the cars are not able to see or be cautious enough.. and bikers who have more view are in a hurry or in bike traffic and unable to make safe stops or get out of the way of oncoming danger . Its accidents waiting to happen and the bike lane being obstructed or blocked is only creating more of a problem . I dont believe drivers intentionaly are not paying attention for bikers. i myself know it is sometimes very difficult. They are moving fast even when traffic is not they come out of no where because they have ability to weave in and out of tight spaces and are often in ur blind spot .. its very dangerous for everyone involved. I believe drivers are cautious and this is every drivers worst fear .. but making it safe for bikers is something we can do to make a difference. Making the way clear is a must definately .
If a person kills another person they go to prison, Bylaw charges? So maybe a fine? Two tier justice system for people vs wealthy people. Owner of the company is responsible since they get the profits.
Road users should obey the law regardless of method of transportation. Just slow the hell down. It is Toronto, gonna take hours to get home anyway. What is the rush.
should be more stiff penalties for this incident. but people need to pay more attention especially the bike rider, you cant just turn into live traffic without looking. entitlement isn’t worth your life
Stiff penalties for what ??? Going to work ? Where do you suggest that bin be placed ???? Should the whole block of road be shut down everytime a buisness needs to do renovations??? What do you suggest?
Bikes... Who enforcing the rules of riding a bike? why helmets aren't by law ( maybe only on streets no at the parks or recreation areas ) just like sit bells in cars, lots of the worst injures are happening in the head when cyclist falls....More education in who has the right of way at every right turn for a car where bikes going straight
Sloppy company think they can do whatever they want to do, RIP TO THAT LADY. Come to brampham and see how people park in the bicycle lane, it’s not Brampton anymore.
Maybe the garbage bin was there because it was getting Starbucks drinks while handing out tickets to others......Oh my bad wrong video ! Whats the good olde saying...Someone has to die for them to throw in a crosswalk Or stop sign?
@@titusmccarthy at the end of the day, cars and trucks and bikes don’t mix so it doesn’t matter who’s fault it is when you’re lying dead on the ground if you want to put your life in somebody else’s hands, then that’s the risk you gotta take i’m not blaming the cyclist. I’m not blaming anybody. I just said that everybody should be proactive watch out for each other. It only takes one person to make a mistake. I’ll be damned if I’m gonna ride a bike on the street in rush-hour where there’s trucks and cars and everybody’s in a hurry and nobody’s paying attention.
@@vincenzotesoro1169bikes can manuver and stop alot more easier than a heavy loaded truck in his own lane going straight .....if you're driving and someone jumps infront of your car at the last seconds who's fault is it?
So because of the obstacle in the lane which she would’ve seen way in advance she veered out of the lane into the path of the truck? If I’m driving and I have to cross into another lane because of whatever, the onus is on me to ensure it’s safe to do, if the way isn’t clear I just have to wait behind the obstacle until I can move. If I cross over and cause an accident I’m responsible and at fault. I’m genuinely asking, is it not the same for bikers?
I have no proof that she did what, veer into the path of the truck? The video clearly says “… A 24 yr old woman was killed after she appeared to have veered out of the cycling lane.. to avoid a large waste disposal bin in front of her“. I’m going to assume she would’ve seen it ahead of time if she rode while looking forward. Of course I wasn’t there to see it myself but I’m commenting on what is being reported here. It’s unfortunate a life was lost but we need to be careful when cycling along side 5 ton vehicles. Don’t assume the 5 ton vehicle will always yield to you, so you just have to be vigilant and check your blind spots and try to anticipate what others would do.
Yes for your safety, usually when you see those cones it indicates that there is a lane restriction and construction and you should reduce your speed and change lanes when safe to do so .....welcome to Canada hope that helps
Im glad someone has been held accountable . This was not this girls fault. i hope her family sues them it will not make up for their loss . .. but it gives family the right to sue now.. correct me if im wrong . Smfh 200 dollars is insulting . I hope they have the ability to take them to court now.
I fell bad for the lady , but there's red pylons all around it. Why would she pull into traffic without looking to see it's clear. You have to have your head on a swivel if your riding a bike in Toronto traffic.
"She had to veer into traffic". Sorry, but did her bicycle not have brakes? Was there a reason she couldn't stop? Did she not check to see if there were cars? Im sorry she's dead, but this seems to be carelessness on her part more than the failt of the construction company.
The critique of cyclists is warranted. Cyclists are the most dangerous of all road users. They do not follow traffic rules and do whatever they want/what is convenient for them whenever they want. I see it every day in Montreal and people are simply waking up to the gross display of negligence for traffic laws from cyclists. 🤷♂️
The cyclist was following the law here until someone else broke it and blocked the bike line resulting in her death. Car drivers are by far the most dangerous road users, your point here is completely meritless and insane.
@@RByrne this only highlights the need for having bike lanes, to protect vulnerable road users (cyclists) from vehicles. If the lane wasn’t blocked this wouldn’t have happened.
Although there was an obstacle, as sad as the incident was, this is primarily still her and the trucks fault. The city is tight on space. There should have been at least cones, but this happened during daylight from my understanding.
As a driver and a cyclist, I'm not sure why the rules of the road are not mandatory for cyclists. There is a real problem in this city especially with the media not reporting the entire story. The bike lanes in Toronto are occupied by self centered ignorant so called cyclists. They do not obey any rules and they feel that they are entitled to do anything they want. I have my driver licence as well as 8 bicycles so I know the rules and I know how to be safe. I rode the Bloor bike lane from Yonge to High Park...never again. Toronto cyclists are the most ignorant people on the road. The bike lanes are a danger at any speed. Cyclists need to be educated and in my opinion should have to pass a test in order to be on a road. It takes years for drivers to be allowed on a road in a car. Cyclists are more venerable and should have to show that they are not a danger to themselves as well as others. The e-bikes make the bike lanes a danger to all that use them as well as the pedestrians along side the bike lanes, they constantly jump from road to sidewalk and no tickets are ever issued.
The two things aren't related. Yeah it's wrong to have bins in an active bike lane but to mention that someone died there last month is just sensationalism and trying to get clicks/reads.
@@titusmccarthy I’ve never ever ever seen a single Canadian shit on a beach once in my life. Now we accept all of these potential terrorists *as we have seen of late* And they use our beaches as the bathroom like they do in their third world shit hole countries.
@@KardiFan2000 still a waste of money, they should be checking up on all of the terrorist attacks against Jewish people in the community as of late. But you don’t know about anything about that do you
@@titusmccarthy and the bike lane is .......on the road , no please keep riding on the road or bike lane ... your time will come !! hey go ride in brampton ! she left the bike lane and was hit on the .......road ! cletus ..lol good one jethro
The death shouldn't have happened, however bike riders need to take responsibility as well. Way too often we get bike riders thinking they're in the wild west and doing what they want. Bike riders should have to follow the laws just like drivers and pedestrians. They should be held accountable as well.
They had to do renovations. Where the fu$ck were they supposed to put the bin? It is a horrible tragedy that she died but how was it the companies fault that she didn't look and just swerved out in front of a truck.
1- who says they didn't have proper permits 2- why do you need a cop to stand there all day 3- you still didn't answer the question. How is it anyone else's fault that she didn't look before she swerved out into traffic. Again this was a tragic accident you are just deflecting and laying blame. Take responsibility for your actions. You are not a two year old.
Who cares, cycles have NO rights to be on the sidewalk but there are anf NOBODY is doing anything about that. But it is illegal unless you are 12 and under. So next time this happens call 1-800- who-cares.
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600 people showed up for the lady in the pouring rain a few days ago for the ghost bike ceromony! Hopefully they will reveal her name one day so she won't be nameless
If another person did this to her they would be in prison, this corporation may get a fine. There is no justice for this young woman. None.
it's an easy question to answer:
$1000 is nothing to a construction company. that's barely a day's worth of cocaine.
Our bylaw enforcement is pathetic. GET THE FINES OUT!
Exactly. Bicyclists need heavier fines so they pay attention and stop breaking the laws of the road.
The company owner needs prison time.
Ford has the power here not the city
@@JebusHypocristosX The lady wins a stupid prize trophy 🏆
@@PeanutButter-19 No, she never dated you.
When are police going to go after cyclists not following the rules of the road such as running through stop signs and red lights
Family can also sue the city for not maintaining the bicycle path in safe-to-use conditions
Canada is not Canada anymore 😑👎🏻👎🏻🇨🇦
$200 x 5 fines?? What value is this woman's life?? There are no words to express the disgust.🤬
"Corporations are people too my friend" Conservative politicians taking bribes
We are all random citizens. Replaceable. Disposable. Learned thus as a child.
@@PAPIKen0728 Apparently $1000
So the solution will be more traffic ....close the whole street off each time a buisness needs to do renovations
Bikes should be on the side walk not the street , this could have been avoided if she was allowed to ride on the side walk
Merging into a lane without proper signalling and merging “when safe” is the law of the road.
Sorry for the facts, but I’m not sorry.
I wish people took more precautions when it comes to the responsibility of their own lives.
Trusting strangers to look out for your neglect is foolish.
Rediculas, millions travel on bikes no problem they look when exiting bike lanes, due to 2 cyclists that didn't look as law requires before changing lanes was there own stupidity,as millions do so safely change lanes from bike lanes to vehicle lanes. Both were. Wreckless and would been charged for damages to vehicles being they broke laws failed to look and drove into a car lane recklessly.
I'm a cyclist and I agree with you. I'm tired of the media not covering the complete story. The cyclist hit the truck, not the other way around.
This officer Karen should be fired giving pedestrian a finger when officers should be charged fined obstructing traffic, parking illegally for coffee seriously only in emergencies there Barbie and Ken know the laws you enforce and practice obeying laws. Can't be resoe tful as a officer shouldn't be representing a city.
These companies should be held liable. $100K+ fine and suspension for these companies to do business in Toronto for a year at minimum.
Why. Did she check if any traffic was coming behind her. Or did she just go into the lane. Can't just blame a BIN lol
Who hired the company? Was it the city? Or private? That's what I want to know!
@@SAr-vc3iwi would shoulder check because I don't want to get hit by a car!
Bike lanes are stupid!!! People would ride their bike on the the roads just fine back in the day. What a bunch of snowflakes
Company owners need prison time if their company takes a life.
*EVERYONE IS QUICK TO BLAME THE COMPANIES!!! WHAT IF IT WAS AN AMBULANCE OR FIRE TRUCK BLOCKING THE LANE? HOW ABOUT YOU STOP AND LOOK BEFORE SWERVING INTO TRAFFIC. YOU KNOW, THE THINGS YOUR PARENTS TAUGHT YOU TO DO AS A CHILD.*
CAR LANES ARE CLOSED ALL THE TIME AND YOU ARE REQUIRED TO MERGE SAFELY INTO THE NEXT LANE.
One time a Costco truck cut onto the bike lane 10 meters ahead of me and started backing up. I had to jump off and pulled my bike onto the side walk. Not even sure if the driver saw me. This was on Bloor near Dovercourt.
It is. I always assume the drivers and pedestrians around me are gonna do stupid things. Bicycle bells are your friends. I got doored or almost doored many times. Or peds thinking they can stand on bike lanes while j walking. It's equally dangerous for peds. Cars going wrong way on one ways, not yielding to peds, not stopping at stop signs.
That's why either make trucks use the sidewalk for deliveries or make bikes use the side walk ....the 2 don't mix
So the solution will be more traffic ....close the whole street off each time a buisness needs to do renovations
Isn't Toronto one big garbage bin? I think so.
This is dumb, where do they expect the bin to go, can't put it on the side walk, can't put it in a live Lane, can't block loading dock/or ally way. Truth be told, that cyclist is to blame. She had a obstruction ahead of her, and instead of braking and finding a safe route around, she darted out into the live lane. I bet she didn't look over her shoulder to see if she had room to merge. I, as a motorcycle rider, always shoulder check before any lane change, and even while not changing lanes, just to be aware of what's around me. It's sad she lost her life, but ultimately it's her own doing, she could have come to a stop, and merged safely.
You would not be saying that if that lady was your daughter asshole
Yeah, she made a stupid decision.
The real root cause is a lack of loading zones in Toronto. Other North American cities have entire blocks dedicated to loading zones for stuff like this. toronto is a shit hole. it aint a world class city, that's for sure.
Now the city will either propose shutting down the whole block from any traffic anytime a buisness needs to do construction 🚧 or ban bikes from the downtown core , and these same ppl that call for the company to be fined millions and owner to be jailed will cry about traffic and not being able to cycle downtown .....
How come no news agency is educating the public when talking about this. The rider should have stopped. Dismounted the bicycle, walked the bicycle around the bin using the sidewalk and than re enter the bike lane on the other side.
Swerving out into traffic without looking for massive trucks is insane. Poor lady but she caused her own death not the bin.
agreed.
Do you do that yourself? You are a joke.
Maybe people should be more aware of their surroundings and not rely so much on laws to keep them bubble wrapped.
Great advice, do tell us about that time you were driving along the highway and you had to suddenly veer out of the way of an enormous skip two private companies had left on the public roadway?
@@jsequine927 Something like that does not happen “all of a sudden”. I look ahead, and when I see something in my path I decide how I’m going to manoeuvre around it. That process includes doing a shoulder checking to see what is around me.
@@PeanutButter-19you mean take responsibility for your own safety and Do a shoulder check ? Not just steer into the direction you want to go and hope ppl can avoid you ??? Intresting concept lol
@@WhocarezWhocarez-nw8ke Yeah, I know, right. It’s so brilliant. I just think of things like that.There is no off switch on the genius mind!
Where should the bins have been placed? Should the cyclist have stopped and did a shoulder check before entering the road? So many questions! Did the city hire the company using the bins? Or who did hire them?
Same place where driver should pick up and drop off passangers on bloor...AKA nowhere...But hey at least we have full lane size bike lanes for the 4 months people actually use them...
@stojo33 perfect answer, my friend!
@@stojo33so how will buisness do renovations???? Maybe ban bikes from the core where it's too busy and congested
@@WhocarezWhocarez-nw8ke Why exactly are you telling me this? Can you not read?
Somebody lost their life things like this will continue to happen if fines are not stiff
Never mind fines, company owner needs jail time.
So the solution will be more traffic ....close the whole street off each time a buisness needs to do renovations
@JebusHypocristosX that's not the answer , it's not the company's fault , bikes should be on the sidewalk not the road that's the best answer I can come up with to this problem, because where else should the bin be left ? Any ideas?
No Criminal Charges
just $1,200.00 in monetary Charges, sooooooo What:
“Under the Provincial Offences Act, a Part 1 offence notice may carry a maximum penalty of $1,000 if the accused is found guilty at trial. If the accused elects to pay the fine out of court, the set fine for each of these offences is $200,”
My set of bycicle break pads are over 140$ … never mind the full break . So that means we better watch out .,
Cyclists should look before leaving and entering a bike lane quite simple
So the solution will be more traffic ....close the whole street off each time a buisness needs to do renovations
@@WhocarezWhocarez-nw8ke Why do people go to the extreme to make a false point?
If this was done legally, there would have been a safe, blocked off way for bikes to go around the bin and maybe a Cop directing traffic, downtown there is not much room and YOU can see if not done correctly, Lives are at Risk.
@DjWellDressedMan there was clear indication of construction up ahead , there were cones placed , if you choose to ignore the safety signs that's on you .....its like running a red light and blaming everyone else for not getting out of your way
This is life in the western world now. Blame everybody but yourself.
Everyday I see the same crazy sh-t.
Cyclists running red lights, stop signs, weaving around in traffic, riding on the sidewalks, riding up the wrong way on a one way, no lights at night, passing cars on the right as the car tries to turn right, riding down the centre line......this is the Toronto norm for cyclists for decades. Cyclists need to take responsibility for themselves.
And yes I see idiot drivers running red lights all of the time. But who loses when that idiot meets an idiot on a bike?
My point exactly, you might have Right of way, but my 9980lb tow truck doesn't care about right of way rules, I can't stop on a dime. My truck will unalive you if you dart out and I don't see you. Il try to stop, but chances are, it will be ontop of you and your bike unfortunately. Ride safe cyclists, I really don't wanna pressure wash you off my chrome.
@@WildSideTowingRecovery I suspect none of these cyclists have ever driven a car let alone a huge truck. They have no clue how quickly they appear or never appear in a mirror. And when somebody has turned a little, they can't see any part of the bike lane because their mirror ain't pointing that way. So they come up at 35kph wondering why they nearly get hit? I ride, I drive....I respect the rules of the road.
@@kevinn1158 I blame the low IQ inbred imbeciles who shill for corporate terrorists. You know who you are.
Corporate terrorists.
So the solution will be more traffic ....close the whole street off each time a buisness needs to do renovations these ppl are delusional calling for the company to be fined and owner jailed ..... what are they supposed to do leave the bin on the side walk if that was even possible...
We pay them a lot of money to keep us safe. Ffs. Try paying attention. For the love of sanity.
There should be different levels of the bylaw where a citizen is billed a minor amount, and businesses should be in a higher bracket
Ooooo, fines, a whole thousand bucks for a life.
They would not put the bin in middle of a two lane road,, but bike lanes are regularly used for construction bins, trucks, and not to leave out all the regular drivers that thinm its a loading zones.
So the solution will be more traffic ....close the whole street off each time a buisness needs to do renovations
Probably cycling way too fast if she couldnt
A. See a giant bin in her way
B. Stop in time
Still a senseless death and very sad.
I experience bad drivers and cyclists daily. How do you veer out of your bike lane and into a live car lane??? Maybe ear pods and loud music don't help. Distracted cycling.
@@DoubleoP
Same thing with pedestrians who try and cross the road without looking both ways constantly while you're crossing. Never understood why pedestrians and cyclists don't try their best to be aware of their surroundings and looking out for their own well being instead of trusting that others will do it for them.
@UzumakiNaruto_ they cross the road with their heads down on thier phone. Unreal
I agree, it' a terrible tragedy but if the cyclist had just taken a second to do a shoulder check she would still be alive.
@chrisxl5152 seems to me that Cyclists are allergic to using the brakes... need to save the momentum...rather veer than brake.
I hate it when I’m driving along the highway and two private companies have left a garbage skip right in the middle of it… ohhhh….
I'm not foolish enough to bike in a city, or poison my lungs in a subway. Prayers
You're foolish enough to post comments about your lack of brain power
Simple, she merged into live traffic and didn't safety merge by knowing the surrounding. There are obstacles everywhere in the city and being oblivious is not and excuse. Cyclist need to have insurance and licenses screw these excuse giving lawyers. Hold Cyclist accountable!
I agree with holding cyclists and pedestrians accountable for their own safety, but that doesn't mean drivers don't need to do their part to keep the streets safe as well. If everyone did their own part, there would be alot fewer accidents in the city and elsewhere and there would be alot fewer injuries and deaths.
@@UzumakiNaruto_ Drivers always do their part because a vehicle is a privilege and livelyhood for many. Driver accountability is regulated by laws and insurance and if not followed drivers get screwed while cyclist do what ever the fuck they want. Get a license kid and ull see how it works.
Swerve into Traffic and Blame Someone else for your Bad Driving🤣What a Comedy
Agreed
Yep. She didn't have brakes? How do you not see a dumpster in front of you, and swerve without checking if it's clear?
Remember the woman who got unalived by the turning truck. She was standing on the closest part of sidewalk near the roadway while on the phone as the truck was making a right turn and got taken out by the back tires. The times we are in now people are selfish and ignorant of their surroundings.
Yeah that truck driver should've been paying more attention to his surroundings. He shouldn't be hitting people on the sidewalk.
What about people throwing trash everywhere, can we deport them?
What about people pooping on the beaches let's send them home too
The bill for the junk removal on that bin alone will be more than 1,000$, the message sent will be human life is largely worthless. The bin company could not be bothered to set up some cones for bicyclists or even move the bin over slightly giving space to bike through. Of course the now dead bicyclist could have also dismounted the bike and walked around the bin on the sidewalk after which could have rode away on the opposite side side.
All she had to do was check her surrounding before changing lanes. I am saddened by the tragedy but cyclists need to be schooled on the rules of the road.
There were warning and cones set up around and before the bin , there's no where else the bin could be placed .....maybe they should close the road for everyone each time a buisness does renovations .....then sit in traffic all around that area given that's the only buisness doing construction.....there might be 2 roads open at a time in all of downtown, it's a bust city construction happens everyday I'm sure that's not the solution....maybe just ban bikes from inner congested cities ???
What about a charge of endangering life?
Did the truck hit the cyclist because the truck entered the bike lane??? No the poor cyclists was not paying attention and left her lane without looking to see that her path was clear before doing so.
Cyclists in this city feel so entitled that applying the brakes or slowing down or even checking that their surroundings are safe is a foreign concept to them.
So the solution will be more traffic ....close the whole street off each time a buisness needs to do renovations
bikes should be banned from all roads period
200???? Someone lost her life and 200???? That’s why they don’t even care to follow the rules.
So the solution will be more traffic ....close the whole street off each time a buisness needs to do renovations
So if there's an open hole in the street and construction and you ride right into it ....its the company's fault???
@@WhocarezWhocarez-nw8ke isn’t that the government’s jurisdiction? Just asking though because I don’t know the answer to that either.
@liyan8385 no , your safety and common sense is up to you the individual, you can't expect construction not to have some exemptions , just like emergency vehicles, imagine if they really had to block off whole entire city blocks just for one store owner that wants to do a small renovation , or ban bicycles from the downtown core just because ppl can't handle their own safety.....this is very unfortunate but you can't blame the company for doing their job and trying to make an honest living
$100 fine max!
Cyclists should need to pass a road test demonstrating they understand the rules of the road, and they should all have license plates to identify them. Cyclists maneuver this city with absolute impunity and ignorance. It needs to stop. R.I.P to the young lady but she is at fault.
if bicycles follow the rules of the road the people would care more. u blow thru reds and stop signs and then cry when u get hit. if u follow the rules then people will care.
i say this as a man who rides motorcycles and bicycles and yes i stop for all reds and stop signs.
Yeah, blame the victim Karen.
Is she a Victim or did she make a poor decision that sadly ended her life
It’s a tragic accident ,
@@fallenangel7884 The victim who objectively made a poor decision that led to her death. You don't need to be a "Karen" to notice that.
What an absolute joke.
Construction companies in Canada can do whatever they want many street they have construction equipment anywhere blocking lanes.
They should be made accountable for this yonge lady was killed because a bin was blocking the bike lane. It's a joke what is happening here in Canada with the justice system is broken
So the solution will be more traffic ....close the whole street off each time a buisness needs to do renovations ...then you or any car or truck won't get to share the road ...so any time there's a project at any buisness they should shut down the whole street and create more traffic ......the whole downtown will be permanently shutdown to all bikes and vehicles, only pedestrians, thats basically what you would want to solve this
The problem with driving and cycling is that there is not enough room and traffic is bad.. drivers often can not see bikers in their vehicle and bikers feel that drivers are not paying attention.. the truth is that it is difficult for both alike because there is alot going on around them to pay attention too and its overwhelming .. making safe bike lanes and dividers is the only way to keep bikers safe .. because often the cars are not able to see or be cautious enough.. and bikers who have more view are in a hurry or in bike traffic and unable to make safe stops or get out of the way of oncoming danger . Its accidents waiting to happen and the bike lane being obstructed or blocked is only creating more of a problem . I dont believe drivers intentionaly are not paying attention for bikers. i myself know it is sometimes very difficult. They are moving fast even when traffic is not they come out of no where because they have ability to weave in and out of tight spaces and are often in ur blind spot .. its very dangerous for everyone involved. I believe drivers are cautious and this is every drivers worst fear .. but making it safe for bikers is something we can do to make a difference. Making the way clear is a must definately .
If a person kills another person they go to prison, Bylaw charges? So maybe a fine? Two tier justice system for people vs wealthy people.
Owner of the company is responsible since they get the profits.
So if you're driving and I jump out infrot of you , it's your fault???
Where is that bin supposed to be I'm curious on your suggestion
Maybe she should not just go from the bike lane to the car lane in front of a truck 🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️
Road users should obey the law regardless of method of transportation. Just slow the hell down. It is Toronto, gonna take hours to get home anyway. What is the rush.
should be more stiff penalties for this incident. but people need to pay more attention especially the bike rider, you cant just turn into live traffic without looking. entitlement isn’t worth your life
Stiff penalties for what ??? Going to work ? Where do you suggest that bin be placed ???? Should the whole block of road be shut down everytime a buisness needs to do renovations??? What do you suggest?
Maybe ban bicycles from the downtown core because it's too dangerous and not enough room
Bikes... Who enforcing the rules of riding a bike? why helmets aren't by law ( maybe only on streets no at the parks or recreation areas ) just like sit bells in cars, lots of the worst injures are happening in the head when cyclist falls....More education in who has the right of way at every right turn for a car where bikes going straight
law needs to be revamped with hi punshments
Yes. Higher fines for bicyclists. This was totally avoidable if she had been looking where she was going.
Yes ban bicycles from the downtown core
Sloppy company think they can do whatever they want to do, RIP TO THAT LADY. Come to brampham and see how people park in the bicycle lane, it’s not Brampton anymore.
What do you suggest they do???
@@WhocarezWhocarez-nw8ke Get a better brain that would be a starting point.
Safety starts with all parties. Everybody should be proactive.
Maybe the garbage bin was there because it was getting Starbucks drinks while handing out tickets to others......Oh my bad wrong video ! Whats the good olde saying...Someone has to die for them to throw in a crosswalk Or stop sign?
Bylaw???
How about watch where the F your'e going.
Safety starts with all parties so everybody should be proactive
Funny how the comments here all blame the cyclist. When the video was about a car hitting a patio everyone blamed the patio. Very telling.
@@titusmccarthy at the end of the day, cars and trucks and bikes don’t mix so it doesn’t matter who’s fault it is when you’re lying dead on the ground if you want to put your life in somebody else’s hands, then that’s the risk you gotta take i’m not blaming the cyclist. I’m not blaming anybody. I just said that everybody should be proactive watch out for each other. It only takes one person to make a mistake. I’ll be damned if I’m gonna ride a bike on the street in rush-hour where there’s trucks and cars and everybody’s in a hurry and nobody’s paying attention.
@@vincenzotesoro1169 Blaming the victim is pretty sad and psychopathic.
@@vincenzotesoro1169bikes can manuver and stop alot more easier than a heavy loaded truck in his own lane going straight .....if you're driving and someone jumps infront of your car at the last seconds who's fault is it?
Who hired the company? Private or city?
Doesn't matter , construction is construction, there's no where else to put that bin
So because of the obstacle in the lane which she would’ve seen way in advance she veered out of the lane into the path of the truck?
If I’m driving and I have to cross into another lane because of whatever, the onus is on me to ensure it’s safe to do, if the way isn’t clear I just have to wait behind the obstacle until I can move. If I cross over and cause an accident I’m responsible and at fault.
I’m genuinely asking, is it not the same for bikers?
You have no proof that she did that
I have no proof that she did what, veer into the path of the truck?
The video clearly says “… A 24 yr old woman was killed after she appeared to have veered out of the cycling lane.. to avoid a large waste disposal bin in front of her“. I’m going to assume she would’ve seen it ahead of time if she rode while looking forward.
Of course I wasn’t there to see it myself but I’m commenting on what is being reported here.
It’s unfortunate a life was lost but we need to be careful when cycling along side 5 ton vehicles. Don’t assume the 5 ton vehicle will always yield to you, so you just have to be vigilant and check your blind spots and try to anticipate what others would do.
They leave these cones on the 401 too
Yes for your safety, usually when you see those cones it indicates that there is a lane restriction and construction and you should reduce your speed and change lanes when safe to do so .....welcome to Canada hope that helps
Im glad someone has been held accountable . This was not this girls fault. i hope her family sues them it will not make up for their loss . .. but it gives family the right to sue now.. correct me if im wrong . Smfh 200 dollars is insulting . I hope they have the ability to take them to court now.
#nobody cares .... truth , if they did we wouldnt be talking aboot this
Smoke and mirrors political BS. Nothing about the person who rode a bicycle into a moving vehicle.
We had less trouble before bike lanes.
Bike's belong on the sidewalk not roads
I fell bad for the lady , but there's red pylons all around it. Why would she pull into traffic without looking to see it's clear. You have to have your head on a swivel if your riding a bike in Toronto traffic.
"She had to veer into traffic". Sorry, but did her bicycle not have brakes? Was there a reason she couldn't stop? Did she not check to see if there were cars?
Im sorry she's dead, but this seems to be carelessness on her part more than the failt of the construction company.
The critique of cyclists is warranted. Cyclists are the most dangerous of all road users. They do not follow traffic rules and do whatever they want/what is convenient for them whenever they want. I see it every day in Montreal and people are simply waking up to the gross display of negligence for traffic laws from cyclists. 🤷♂️
With an attitude like that you are a danger to society, people who think like you should not be in possession a drivers license!
The cyclist was following the law here until someone else broke it and blocked the bike line resulting in her death. Car drivers are by far the most dangerous road users, your point here is completely meritless and insane.
@pspat101 did she not see the dumpster? She could have stopped and waited. At the very least check if the lane is clear before swinging out.
@@RByrne this only highlights the need for having bike lanes, to protect vulnerable road users (cyclists) from vehicles. If the lane wasn’t blocked this wouldn’t have happened.
@@pspat101 lol. You are a fool. You have no idea what I see every day.
when bicycle riders start stopping for stop signs and red lights then there safety should be a concern.
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there will allways be obstuction on roads that are tempirararaly under construction is what it is smarten up
Is there any responsibility to the bike rider? Did she check her shoulder I’m sorry for the rider but the logistics working downtown are insane
if the company have the permits, i dont see why they should be liable.
Although there was an obstacle, as sad as the incident was, this is primarily still her and the trucks fault. The city is tight on space. There should have been at least cones, but this happened during daylight from my understanding.
As a driver and a cyclist, I'm not sure why the rules of the road are not mandatory for cyclists.
There is a real problem in this city especially with the media not reporting the entire story. The bike lanes in Toronto are occupied by self centered ignorant so called cyclists. They do not obey any rules and they feel that they are entitled to do anything they want.
I have my driver licence as well as 8 bicycles so I know the rules and I know how to be safe. I rode the Bloor bike lane from Yonge to High Park...never again. Toronto cyclists are the most ignorant people on the road. The bike lanes are a danger at any speed.
Cyclists need to be educated and in my opinion should have to pass a test in order to be on a road. It takes years for drivers to be allowed on a road in a car. Cyclists are more venerable and should have to show that they are not a danger to themselves as well as others.
The e-bikes make the bike lanes a danger to all that use them as well as the pedestrians along side the bike lanes, they constantly jump from road to sidewalk and no tickets are ever issued.
The two things aren't related. Yeah it's wrong to have bins in an active bike lane but to mention that someone died there last month is just sensationalism and trying to get clicks/reads.
Wait this is the biggest issue in the GTA?
Ummm how about all of the immigrant gangs? And people shitting on beaches?
Wasaga's outside of the GTA...but sure
No one cares about your Hot Button issues from Rebel News.
@@titusmccarthy I’ve never ever ever seen a single Canadian shit on a beach once in my life.
Now we accept all of these potential terrorists *as we have seen of late*
And they use our beaches as the bathroom like they do in their third world shit hole countries.
@@KardiFan2000 still a waste of money, they should be checking up on all of the terrorist attacks against Jewish people in the community as of late.
But you don’t know about anything about that do you
@@saltycanadian6190 I do know about that, but they'll be fine. They have the money and power to overcome that. (They always do.)
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bikes need to stay off the roads ! roads are for cars ! this guy is the worst !
It was in a bike lane, Cletus.
@@titusmccarthy and the bike lane is .......on the road , no please keep riding on the road or bike lane ... your time will come !! hey go ride in brampton ! she left the bike lane and was hit on the .......road ! cletus ..lol good one jethro
@@NatoWarPigs The road isn't just for cars, CLETUS.
The death shouldn't have happened, however bike riders need to take responsibility as well. Way too often we get bike riders thinking they're in the wild west and doing what they want. Bike riders should have to follow the laws just like drivers and pedestrians. They should be held accountable as well.
They had to do renovations. Where the fu$ck were they supposed to put the bin? It is a horrible tragedy that she died but how was it the companies fault that she didn't look and just swerved out in front of a truck.
Your a swell person bub, I don't even have to comment really to say how much of a fuck head you are 👍 but now you know
Then they should apply and pay for the proper permit and pay for a cop to stand their and direct and cyclists around the obstacles.
YOU dont live in the City
@@DjWellDressedMan Yes I DO live in the city. However how is that relevant?
1- who says they didn't have proper permits
2- why do you need a cop to stand there all day
3- you still didn't answer the question. How is it anyone else's fault that she didn't look before she swerved out into traffic.
Again this was a tragic accident you are just deflecting and laying blame. Take responsibility for your actions. You are not a two year old.
I guess the garbage bin was invisible
Who cares, cycles have NO rights to be on the sidewalk but there are anf NOBODY is doing anything about that. But it is illegal unless you are 12 and under. So next time this happens call 1-800- who-cares.
Dumb.
@@titusmccarthy you must be dumb or don't know we have laws in the country or you just don't care.
$200 fine WTF is you saying should be $86K fine.
So the solution will be more traffic ....close the whole street off each time a buisness needs to do renovations