Lucy could do a documentary on paint drying and it would be absolutely fascinating. Her enthusiasm on history is absolutely contagious. She's a national treasure
I visited Jane Austen’s cottage last week and found it very moving. It’s a lovely museum and there is a real sense of the past and Jane’s life there. Jane’s beautiful embroidery and the table at which she wrote were very touching see. Highly recommend visiting this lovely place to anyone interested in this wonderful authors life. Really enjoyed this film, thank you.
@@cinemaocd1752 you can also go to their bedroom in Winchester, where Cassandra was her nurse until she died there, and from which window she watched Jane’s casket pass by in a cortege led by her brother to Winchester Cathedral…
Ohhhh, I would love to see it! And her embroidery…was it Satin stitch? I’ve always imagined it was floral, but I made that up like I did everything in Santa’s Christmas Eve note. How about their recipe book, did you get yo see what they ate? Does the furniture seem smaller than ours today?
@@susanfisher3329 Her embroidery is an out of this world all white gauzy shawl. Unbelievable. The coolest detail is that just like her writing, she would take out the fine embroidery and hide the shirts she was sewing for her brother when people visited. There is a dress of hers which is tiny but the furniture was same size as modern. I was disappointed that they didn't have two beds in her bedroom, in fact I don't think they are sure which bedroom was which, and it may have changed over time. It didn't come across very strongly in this documentary but the house is just very tasteful, cosy, liveable. Feminine but not girly. But quite obviously formerly an Inn (bricked up archway) which must have been a little embarrassing I imagine.
There quite a few programmes on RUclips that she's done that have been on TV. Her name is Lucy Worsley. I'm not sure whether other countries can view them.
But can she be believed. Sometimes she’s just plain wrong and often sloppy. The other day she went on and on about the Marlboroughs without mentioning that Winston Churchill was a decedent of the Marboroughs. Then out of the blue began referring to the Churchills assuming everyone knew.
Love this. It's like watching two people have a conversation rather than a scripted interview. Very relaxed and informal. And Dan Snow asks all the right questions and really LISTENS to Lucy's answers. Beautifully done.
Zet jij er ook bij hoe jij eraan hebt bij gedragen haar leven te vernietigen maar dat zal wel een illusie zijn zoals gezegd het ontbreekt aan lef en waarheid want dat is vergezocht
I've never understood why Jane's brother Edward, who was very comfortably off indeed, couldn't do better for his mother and sisters than Chawton Cottage. Of course it wasn't his responsibility alone of all the brothers, but he was by far the one with the most resources in terms of properties and income and it has always seemed a very mean and grudging bit of accommodation (as lovely as it now is) to provide for the widowed mother and spinster sisters. And the sisters were certainly expected to pay for it, with extended visits to provide childcare and make themselves useful during Edward's wife's many lying-ins, etc, to demonstrate their gratitude, so it certainly wasn't gratis. I adore Jane, and hugely admire what she accomplished in such a short life despite such difficulties.
There's an even more *INFURIATING* story where Jane and were screwed over by a distant cousin The they all gathered for the reading of the will of a very wealthy aristocratic relative on Jane's mother's side and through legal loopholes this cousin and his wife who were a closer relative to the woman who had died took everything Jane got a small diamond ring 😡 The cousin and his wife knew Jane and her family were penniless It's really true that the love of money is the root of all evil
@@carolw32 thank god she did or we would never have had the novels She wouldn't have even tried explaining that to anyone they would have just thought she was (literally) insane she was centuries ahead of her time
I will read everything Lucy Worsley writes. I will listen to and watch every TV show, lecture and presentation that Lucy does. She is fantastic. I can say the same thing about Dan Snow. Amazing writer.
Suzanna Lipscomb, Dan Jones, too. But I admit Lucy is my favorite. I even read her book about Agatha Christie, whom I have no interest in, because she wrote it. It was really interesting, of course, lol.
We visited England in 2000. My husband indulged me in touring Jane Austen sites all over the country. While all the sites were enormously interesting, it was the small JA museum in Bath that just broke me emotionally. That and seeing her gravestone in Winchester Cathedral. Seeing the places where she lived and where she is buried made my favorite author a real person - and brought home the utter tragedy of her death at such a young age. The books she did not live to write haunt me.
When life is difficult, when the world is in chaos and makes no sense, one of the things that will center me and bring a new perspective is reading Jane Austin. She is smart, funny, practical, and inventive. I love spending time with her and always feel less stressed, more objective, and ready to just get on with it
Dan has the true art of the interviewer - only ask a question to elicit a sumptuous response from the interviewee, and calibrated precisely to trigger that response precisely on topic. (Who watching this video did not know Jane died in obscurity, but it allowed Lucy to enlarge upon that theme in her own inimitable way). And Lucy? Always fascinating.
So much passion, energy and independence seems to have been in Jane, quite the opposite of what was expected of a woman of the time. I think she really paved the way for other female writers, like the Bronte sisters. Wonder what she would have made of the impact she ended up creating.
After all, Jane's brother had 11 children to provide for. He was also being sued for his Chawton property, and he lost thousands wĥen another brother's bank failed. He was giving 100 pounds annually for his mother's and sister's support after their father passed. And Jane's family knew she was writing novels! They loved them. She wrote her whole life. They supported her 1000 percent!
Ok ,in her time they expected that Lady must get married to rich guy ,but She wanted do what She wanted Could She ever know that so many years after her death her books been known around the world,translated,made into movies,plays in theatre ,and making lots of money ,I wonder who inherit the money from her crafts if She didn't have no children She sound like lovely,witty and clever
Lucy Worsley's Jane Austen documentary was the first english documentary on english history that I've ever watched on youtube, and it made me fall in love with Jane Austen, Lucy Worsley and english documentaries in general. So this is a right treat!
I adore Emma for just that reason - I was a bit shocked to hear that there are those who DON'T love her, or the book. She's a character with immense gifts, and we learn that fact from the first pages the book, but she has a couple of major character flaws, and it's the gradual rubbing away of those flaws (and the suffering of the characters nearest to her, which she greatly and sincerely regrets!) that is essentially the only story to this long book.
I never thought of him as a father figure, but rather a best friend, confidant, and the only person who really saw her, challenged her, and called her on her sh*#. If that’s not real love… 🤷♀️ He was the only one worthy of her and vice versa.
Lucy is a national treasure. Flicking through different programs my thumb presses the recording as a pavlovian response, if she is presenting. She has so much wit, charm, and a talent in breathing life into history by her knowledge and enthusiasm for the subject. I can imagine that her fans think of her as the favourite TV aunti for their kids!
Jane Austen is my favourite author of all time. I adore her. I visited Bath & the Jane Austen centre there when I was in the UK just because I am such a huge fan. Her writing encapsulated her time. She made the plight of women clear without making it too political. The stories were entertaining. A great pioneer of her time.
Enjoyable watch. "Poker". I always imagined Jane Austin sitting in a corner quietly watching and listening to everyone. She was an amazing psychologist and social commentator.
Lucy Worsley is just amazing, and her book about Jane is too. I can also say that the audiobook version is great but be warned in the end when we learn about the last days of Jane I could not stop from crying.
So pleased to see so many lovely comments about Lucy. She is a must see on my TV, which thankfully is quite often. In fact she should have her own channel. I love it when she dresses up, she can bring real humour to history and I've learnt more from her than I ever did at school. I'd love to go to a lecture given by her
He asked exactly all the questions I wished to get the answers to concerning Jane Austen. I'm very thankful for this little video. It gives such a great perspective on how Austen lived and worked, and what was she like.
So great love Dan Snow and Lucy Worsley separately. Together they are an even bigger force of nature for all things History. Keep on collaborating. Love the energy!
Dr. Lucy Worsley is one of favorite historians and one of my inspiration into studying to become a curator and historian I hope one day to work with her on a historical project.
Always a pleasant way to learn about history from the erudite and lovely Lucy Worsely and Dan Snow is a great guide with this multi-faceted and superbly informative channel. Great stuff.
Wonderful to hear Lucy holding court about Jane Austen. Anything Lucy has to say is worth hearing. Brilliant that she speaks so eloquently and comfortably with an umbrella hooked over arm. And those buttons on her coat are fabulous!
I loved nearly all of the television adaptations of Jane Austin's novels. This video helped me understand her story, psychology and background better. I didn't know that she was born a month overdue!
I was a bit surprised to hear the Rev. George Austen described only as a teacher; his primary position was that of rector of St. Nicholas' church in Steventon. He did of course house and teach up to a dozen boys in the parsonage, but not for the entire time he was there. Moreover he was very supportive of his daughters' education, and especially his younger one, whose novels he would send to publishers with cover letters; and because she was the daughter of a clergyman, Jane Austen had a very fluid position in society: She and her siblings were received at the great houses and allowed to make the rounds of calls and balls that introduced them to eligible candidates for spouses, which they would not have been allowed had their father simply been the village school teacher. This social interaction for their children, in fact, is the reason many clergy did not take other jobs or positions that might have paid better, but would not have allowed them to intermingle socially with the landowning families.
@@sarahhearn-vonfoerster7401 As a rector, Jane's father George Austen was considered a gentleman, and through his wife Cassandra (Jane's mother) the family did have genuinely aristocratic connections. George himself also had some wealthy family connections, and it was through George's childless cousins Thomas and Elizabeth Knight that Jane's brother Edward came to be so wealthy, as they adopted him as their own when he was 16 years old, and duly made him their heir on condition he took their surname. So that was certainly a benefit of George's respectable social position, as they would certainly not have adopted a boy who was not of gentlemanly stock. Jane's sister, Cassandra, met her fiance Thomas Fowle because he was one of her father's boarding pupils. Sadly, he died abroad before they could marry, but he left her £1000, which in those days was a very respectable windfall which gave her a degree of financial security, if not independence, which Jane never had. So that was another direct benefit from their father's social position. The reason that Jane received the proposal from Harris Bigg-Wither referred to in this video is because, as the rector's daughter, she was on visiting social terms with that local wealthy family, and indeed was a close friend of the Bigg-Wither sisters. However, as a 'mere' parson's daughter, she was equally considered a not good enough catch by another wealthy local family, the Lefroys of Ashe House, for their nephew Tom Lefroy, who Jane is famously thought to have been in love with. Ironically, Mr Lefroy senior was also a rector, but a very much wealthier one than Mr Austen. So whilst Jane was welcomed as a friend for their daughter and allowed free run of their library, she was not considered a worthwhile marriage connection, apparently. So these things were not straightforward.
I've done quite a lot of research on Austen and the family, and I don't remember reading about the shooting; but far from being a "nut case" he is pretty universally described as calm, rational, and compassionate; as well as open minded to the education of women, since he taught his daughters French and Italian and encouraged them to read just about anything in his library (and he had more than 500 volumes). He also wrote to publishers on Austen's behalf, so these do not sound like the actions of an insane person. @@ORDEROFTHEKNIGHTSTEMPLAR13
Whilst it’s tragically sad Jane Austin didn’t have an overtly fulfilling life because of the prevailing social norms, it’s perhaps even more unpalatable to think about the many 1,000’s of girls and young women whom didn’t even make it into the “unlanded-landed gentry” level and had awful life’s of servitude or in unhappy and / or perhaps violent marriages.
Delighted to tour Jane’s home with the two of you! I always found Emma an awakening. The acknowledgment of the frivolous & the unsightly in the interactions of self & acquaintances.❤
Lucy Worsley is a wonderful historian and presenter I am never disappointed when I view one of her programs. I visited the Jane Austen House museum about 10 yrs ago and it was wonderful, it does provide you with a window into the world in which she inhabited. While Jane was buried in Winchester (no mention of her novelist work is on her tombstone, since as Lucy noted it was not becoming of a lady of her class/time), her mom and sister have gravestones across the street and over a little bit from the house.
Jane’s name is on a slab of stone in Wincester cathedral. I walked over several times when I lived there, hoping her talent would rub off on me. Just kidding about the last thing. I did, however, gaze upon that stone on several occasions. Now I have a greater sense of her . . . greatness.
@@Musicienne-DAB1995It’s quite lovely, Winchester Cathedral, and there’s even evidence of paganism throughout via carvings of The Green Man. Winchester itself is a market town, or it was, and so its main street bustles with vendors selling their produce, on market days. When you visit you’ll be delighted by the charm. As an American who grew up in New England, I especially appreciated whole pots of tea (rather than a soggy tea-bag in one cup) to accompany my slice of chocolate cake at 3:00 PM. At the time I had two preschool children in tow, and thus spent many hours at the “leisure center” the English name for an exercising facility, the parks, and of course the toy store. Fond memories and now they are enhanced by videos such as this one.
Jane Austen was such a pioneer. I always felt bad that she died so young. Her sister Cassandra must've been an interesting figure, though one knows so little of her. Hurray for historians Dan Snow and Lucy Worsley.
Loved this little peek into Austen’s life (as a huge fan myself). Lucy never disappoints! Thank you for letting us know about her book, I went straight to Amazon and purchased. :)
I could listen and learn more about Jane Austen all day. Thank you, Lucy, who is always brilliant and Dan Snow who asked the questions I would have asked Lucy. Are there photos of the house where Jane died in Winchester? I feel so blessed to have paid my respects to Jane in the exquisite Winchester Cathedral in 1994.
I have only ever seen external photos of it, which are readily available via a google search for 'house where Jane Austen died'. The address is 8 College Street, Winchester. I think it has always been in private ownership, so photos of the interior do not seem to be available, but at least it still exists, which is a blessing after 200 years. It is only round the corner from the Cathedral, so when you visited in 1994 you weren't far away!
Jane Austen will always be quite a mystery because of the letters destroy by her sister, Cassandra... whether because of embarrassing content or insights into her thoughts at the time. Great video!
Great vlog with 2 brilliant historians. Lucy has that knack of telling history in ways that make it easy for us to "get". Her research is fantastic which enables us to see a glimpse of whoever she is portraying and the circumstances of their life. If Jane was a "poker" then she must have been watching intently at some behaviour worth writing about. I have a small print of the Chawton house in my hall, it is under a print from Chaucer's Canterbury Tales, both writers were great observers of human behaviour. Thanks Dan and Lucy for a wonderful history lesson.
The flashy theory of death by arsenic poisoning (as it was in many over the counter medications at the time) is from finding three pairs of her eyeglasses in her last several years showing her vision rapidly deteriorated, and that was supposedly a side effect of cataracts caused by arsenic, and that she had darker facial pigment at the end of her years assumed to be caused by arsenic ingestion. However, to me, the general consensus of her death by Addison's disease makes sense as also causes blurred vision and the pigment disorders of both melasma and vitilago. Addison's is also linked with thyroid disorders and anemia, which all weaken the immune system, as does the disease itself. Another theory is that she had Hodgkin's Lymphoma, which is also linked to having a preexisting autoimmune disease such as Addison's. And finally, she could have also been born with a primary immunodeficiency syndrome or had another underlying autoimmune disease such as Lupus, concurrent with either Addison's or Hodgkin's Lymphoma. Apologies if this is a lot of info, but I have a primary immunodeficiency myself which also causes multiple autoimmune diseases (faulty autoimmune regulator "AIRE" gene)and thus have a higher risk of lymphoma and I would have also likely been dead by 41 myself in the Georgian save for modern medicine. I also have read that she was a sickly child, so perhaps her light household duties that were granted upon her by her mother were from that, and also may have been why she avoided marriage.Otherwise she would have been expected to be a brood mare and produce many children, which could easily have proven fatal to someone with compromised health. The description of her personality is similar to mine, which comes from learning to guard myself from a young age against great family expectations, by watching others with a disinterested facade, all while enjoying the ridiculous human drama that enfolds, and being able to only be my true self in close, trusted company. In that light, I admire her even more, for how much she accomplished with sharing her writing and in choosing to lead her own life even through major health challenges and familial obligations. Here's a great article on her possible causes of death: janeaustensworld.com/tag/arsenic/
I like Emma but can't stand Mansfield Park. There's not a single character I like or can relate to in the book, Fanny has got to be the worst character, self-righteous snob.
Really interesting. The tiny table where Jane wrote was quite a shock. It is hard to imagine some of the world's greatest novels written on such a tiny table.
I adore Emma.....those who don't seem to not recognize the humor in Emma....she is beautiful, spoiled, self absorbed & so sure of herself & funny!! Please don't take her so seriously....she does have a conscience...her father spoiled her..everyone spoiled her!! Lighten up & you will enjoy the novel much more... ..
Lucy is so knowledgable and passionate and one can’t help but to feel the need to know more. I really enjoyed this. I adore history and especially literature from which I have probably learned far more than I ever did during my educational years. 😃
I like when Dan says it makes him angry that this brilliant writer was so stymied during her lifetime simply because she was female. I love that Lucy says Jane Austen’s writing was subversive! ❤
@@lporquai9048 you’re so right! So much colonial bull we were fed in history classes in the western world! Accomplishments of Women were left out and even more so the history of so-called “minorities” - in CDA the minorities added together are a majority! Unfortunately because they settle mostly only in the biggest cities, Toronto Montreal & Vancouver - smaller groups in Edmonton Halifax etc.; rural Canada is still racist white communities - I’m not happy in our semi-rural town near Niagara Falls. I love my multicultural Toronto - a festival on the streets almost every weekend with fabulous food from around the world! Lived there from age 4-63 and do so miss it!
On the other hand, if she had lived an easy life perhaps her writing would have lacked the acerbity and acute social observation that make her such a brilliant author. You can sense in her writing that she must have been enormous fun to be with, quick-witted and with a wicked sense of humour. Her early death was a sad loss to literature.
@lporquai9048 I do apologize if this is inappropriate but I don’t understand where your criticism comes from, out of the blue perhaps. In Georgian England there where very few people of any other race that were independent, the other few were highly valued for the status of having African male servants or kept female servants for company for the rich families wives & daughters. It was a very different world from the one we now live in. Like the way Jane Austen didn’t mention the Napoleonic wars, which if she had wanted to she most certainly would have, so these were her choices for telling of her stories, as simple as that.
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Thank you Dan and Lucy. What a lovely conversation about Jane Austen.
I studied 'Emma' for A-level, and was singularly unimpressed. I re-read it ten years later, and laughed like a drain. The character of Emma seems to me to be well-meaning, if somewhat selfish, but deeply flawed, particularly by her inability to see other people's point of view. I don't think I'd want her as a friend! But the book is a delight.
I also sniffed at Emma when I was 17 but now I'm 45 (and have a 25 year career in publishing and editing), I feel like I can actually get the jokes. Just last night I re-read the chapter where Isabella arrives and she Mr Woodhouse immediately get into this super polite battle of wills that's also a sort of proxy war between two doctors (Isabella's Mr Wingfield, and the infamous never-appearing Mr Perry) and at the same time it's a hypochondriac-off and of course there's a smooth thin gruel reference... But picking up on half of this depends so much on my very-post-high-school experience of relatives who talk about their own illness all the time, passive-aggressive emotional mind games, and you know what, I'm going to say Seinfeld and the appreciation that a conversation can be about nothing and still be hilarious.
Love Emma. She’s confident and wants that for her friend. She doesn’t marry her “father figure” she marries her friend. She doesn’t know she’s in love with him until he’s no longer available and realize she will lose him. No longer be able to speak with him or visit whenever they like.
Ms. Worsley, thank you for giving me a new Christmas present idea for my mom. She's loved Jane Austen for the past 40 years and I think she'd really love to read this. Interesting video on Jane Austen's house as well. If I could ever afford to go, I'd love to go and see it in person.
I love the idea that young Jane Austen complained of hangovers. You go girl, paint the town! Not the picture I had of her when I first read her at school.
Literature graduate from the othe side of the world ,we have immersed ourselves in Jane Austen 's classics as part of our curriculum. Hours spent in library learning abt the society of that period and discussing abt it. ever been to those places to see first hand! Was always a dream for me. Now watching this short vedio brought back all the old college memories back.
Lucy could do a documentary on paint drying and it would be absolutely fascinating. Her enthusiasm on history is absolutely contagious. She's a national treasure
I suspect it would be on the *history* of paint drying
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Of all the Brits, I love to meet and talk with, Lucy Worsely is the top. She’s amazing.
Indeed.
Agreed.
Lucy Worsley never dissapoints. What a gem!
Juicy Lucy.
I agree. I love her.
It’s that big ugly bollox nobody likes
Smart, Cute-As-A-Bug, Funny. What's not to like?
She's the reason I clicked on this, aside from Jane Austen, but that strapping bro is quite some eye candy
I love the (very British) fact that Lucy conducts the entire tour with her brolly on her arm.
😂😂😂😂 🙌🏽 Yes, brilliant!
❤ it's like she jus stopped by and only has a minute..😊
No history channel is complete without Lucy Worsley
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I visited Jane Austen’s cottage last week and found it very moving. It’s a lovely museum and there is a real sense of the past and Jane’s life there. Jane’s beautiful embroidery and the table at which she wrote were very touching see. Highly recommend visiting this lovely place to anyone interested in this wonderful authors life. Really enjoyed this film, thank you.
Thank you for your note: you’re right, it’s a daydream destination for me!
I found standing in her tiny bedroom that she shared with her sister very moving. It made me think of all the scenes of sisters in her books.
@@cinemaocd1752 you can also go to their bedroom in Winchester, where Cassandra was her nurse until she died there, and from which window she watched Jane’s casket pass by in a cortege led by her brother to Winchester Cathedral…
Ohhhh, I would love to see it! And her embroidery…was it Satin stitch? I’ve always imagined it was floral, but I made that up like I did everything in Santa’s Christmas Eve note. How about their recipe book, did you get yo see what they ate? Does the furniture seem smaller than ours today?
@@susanfisher3329 Her embroidery is an out of this world all white gauzy shawl. Unbelievable. The coolest detail is that just like her writing, she would take out the fine embroidery and hide the shirts she was sewing for her brother when people visited. There is a dress of hers which is tiny but the furniture was same size as modern. I was disappointed that they didn't have two beds in her bedroom, in fact I don't think they are sure which bedroom was which, and it may have changed over time. It didn't come across very strongly in this documentary but the house is just very tasteful, cosy, liveable. Feminine but not girly. But quite obviously formerly an Inn (bricked up archway) which must have been a little embarrassing I imagine.
This woman is fascinating I could listen to her for hours… she makes history absolutely fascinating.
There quite a few programmes on RUclips that she's done that have been on TV. Her name is Lucy Worsley. I'm not sure whether other countries can view them.
@@itsacarolbthing5221 we can in Australia.
But can she be believed. Sometimes she’s just plain wrong and often sloppy. The other day she went on and on about the Marlboroughs without mentioning that Winston Churchill was a decedent of the Marboroughs. Then out of the blue began referring to the Churchills assuming everyone knew.
@@oldman1734 Sloppy?? She's chief curator of historic royal palaces and you're just some internet schlub. Why don't you give it a go?
We all make mistakes and over look things @@oldman1734. And what’s with the offensive comments?
Love this. It's like watching two people have a conversation rather than a scripted interview. Very relaxed and informal. And Dan Snow asks all the right questions and really LISTENS to Lucy's answers. Beautifully done.
Agreed, thoughtful questions from Dan Snow
Dude could stand normally, and take his hands out of his pockets.
@@danieladaniela3739he might be trying to adjust the difference in their heights. Your comment is very blunt.
@@danieladaniela3739 Dan Snow is bloody gorgeous and can stand how he likes! 😍
@@PaulaJonesyYep, he's a hottie. 😉❤️🔥❤️🔥❤️🔥
Lucy Worsley is simply the best of the best. She is so engaging in her discussions, and makes history unforgettable.
Zet jij er ook bij hoe jij eraan hebt bij gedragen haar leven te vernietigen maar dat zal wel een illusie zijn zoals gezegd het ontbreekt aan lef en waarheid want dat is vergezocht
I've never understood why Jane's brother Edward, who was very comfortably off indeed, couldn't do better for his mother and sisters than Chawton Cottage. Of course it wasn't his responsibility alone of all the brothers, but he was by far the one with the most resources in terms of properties and income and it has always seemed a very mean and grudging bit of accommodation (as lovely as it now is) to provide for the widowed mother and spinster sisters. And the sisters were certainly expected to pay for it, with extended visits to provide childcare and make themselves useful during Edward's wife's many lying-ins, etc, to demonstrate their gratitude, so it certainly wasn't gratis. I adore Jane, and hugely admire what she accomplished in such a short life despite such difficulties.
Greed. She lived sense and sensibility but didn't get her happy ending.
There's an even more *INFURIATING* story where Jane and were screwed over by a distant cousin
The they all gathered for the reading of the will of a very wealthy aristocratic relative on Jane's mother's side
and through legal loopholes this cousin and his wife who were a closer relative to the woman who had died took everything
Jane got a small diamond ring 😡
The cousin and his wife knew Jane and her family were penniless
It's really true that the love of money is the root of all evil
He didn't want to. Women really were at society's mercy.
He probably felt that she should not have refused the marriage offer.
@@carolw32 thank god she did or we would never have had the novels
She wouldn't have even tried explaining that to anyone they would have just thought she was (literally) insane
she was centuries ahead of her time
I will read everything Lucy Worsley writes. I will listen to and watch every TV show, lecture and presentation that Lucy does. She is fantastic. I can say the same thing about Dan Snow. Amazing writer.
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Me too.. must see tv
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Bit ott.
Suzanna Lipscomb, Dan Jones, too. But I admit Lucy is my favorite. I even read her book about Agatha Christie, whom I have no interest in, because she wrote it. It was really interesting, of course, lol.
We visited England in 2000. My husband indulged me in touring Jane Austen sites all over the country. While all the sites were enormously interesting, it was the small JA museum in Bath that just broke me emotionally. That and seeing her gravestone in Winchester Cathedral. Seeing the places where she lived and where she is buried made my favorite author a real person - and brought home the utter tragedy of her death at such a young age. The books she did not live to write haunt me.
It was such a privilege to grow up with Jane Austen on my doorstep. I went to school down the road in alton and fell in love with her books.
Sad how cheap her brother was, but no one reveres him. She continues to inspire generations
Cheap and entitled.
It was simply how things were back then.
He seems ok to me,, especially if he's anti rad fem
So much fun!
@@PhilipStacey-ty2emAw, poor baby scared of feminists. Cute
When life is difficult, when the world is in chaos and makes no sense, one of the things that will center me and bring a new perspective is reading Jane Austin. She is smart, funny, practical, and inventive. I love spending time with her and always feel less stressed, more objective, and ready to just get on with it
me too !
Then you must have been doing a lot of reading lately.
Same here!
Here here!
No channel can ever have enough Lucy Worsley.
It was so nice to see Lucy Worsley’s name appear here. She has such a breadth of knowledge and is such a gifted communicator.
A beautiful, charismatic woman who can talk History! Yes, I’m swooning!
Ms Worsley has now found the time and energy to write a book! What a treat for those of us who admire her ability to bring history to life.
Dan has the true art of the interviewer - only ask a question to elicit a sumptuous response from the interviewee, and calibrated precisely to trigger that response precisely on topic. (Who watching this video did not know Jane died in obscurity, but it allowed Lucy to enlarge upon that theme in her own inimitable way).
And Lucy? Always fascinating.
Unbearable to watch. Ghastly.
Whatever even a cursory reading of Emma can see that her husband was not a father figure certainly not her father anyway
So much passion, energy and independence seems to have been in Jane, quite the opposite of what was expected of a woman of the time. I think she really paved the way for other female writers, like the Bronte sisters. Wonder what she would have made of the impact she ended up creating.
After all, Jane's brother had 11 children to provide for. He was also being sued for his Chawton property, and he lost thousands wĥen another brother's bank failed. He was giving 100 pounds annually for his mother's and sister's support after their father passed. And Jane's family knew she was writing novels! They loved them. She wrote her whole life. They supported her 1000 percent!
Interesting context! Shows we can't automatically judge by our own modern standards.
They were land rich but cash poor
Yes! Thank you!
Ok ,in her time they expected that Lady must get married to rich guy ,but She wanted do what She wanted
Could She ever know that so many years after her death her books been known around the world,translated,made into movies,plays in theatre ,and making lots of money ,I wonder who inherit the money from her crafts if She didn't have no children
She sound like lovely,witty and clever
@@katarzynamariamuszynska2811 She left everything to her sister Cassandra, barring 50 pounds each to her brother Henry and to a friend.
Lucy Worsley's Jane Austen documentary was the first english documentary on english history that I've ever watched on youtube, and it made me fall in love with Jane Austen, Lucy Worsley and english documentaries in general. So this is a right treat!
Emma has a character arch. She grows up in the end. She’s willing to be sorry and humble when she accepts her mistakes. For that, we can love her.
I adore Emma for just that reason - I was a bit shocked to hear that there are those who DON'T love her, or the book. She's a character with immense gifts, and we learn that fact from the first pages the book, but she has a couple of major character flaws, and it's the gradual rubbing away of those flaws (and the suffering of the characters nearest to her, which she greatly and sincerely regrets!) that is essentially the only story to this long book.
@Snuggelbubs1 I'm creeped out by the whole "marrying the father figure" just like Dan. Otherwise I wouldn't mind Emma.
Bah humbug. People invariably marry their own fathers (in a sense). Hell, even I did, kinda! @@annnee6818
I never thought of him as a father figure, but rather a best friend, confidant, and the only person who really saw her, challenged her, and called her on her sh*#. If that’s not real love… 🤷♀️ He was the only one worthy of her and vice versa.
She is truly a real girl ..with all of those girlish ideas and desires . And she's saucey , very quick minded
Absolutely love Lucy's documentaries. Her humour is brilliant and her way of making sense of the past in a great way just WOW❤❤
Two of my favourite women.... Lucy Worsley & jane Austin. Both beautifully bold, brilliant & brave. Thanks Dan and lucy❤
I could listen to Lucy all day. Her accent and speaking style are just lovely.
Lucy is a national treasure. Flicking through different programs my thumb presses the recording as a pavlovian response, if she is presenting. She has so much wit, charm, and a talent in breathing life into history by her knowledge and enthusiasm for the subject. I can imagine that her fans think of her as the favourite TV aunti for their kids!
Jane Austen is my favourite author of all time. I adore her. I visited Bath & the Jane Austen centre there when I was in the UK just because I am such a huge fan. Her writing encapsulated her time. She made the plight of women clear without making it too political. The stories were entertaining. A great pioneer of her time.
I love anything Lucy does. She's so down to earth and educational.
Enjoyable watch. "Poker". I always imagined Jane Austin sitting in a corner quietly watching and listening to everyone. She was an amazing psychologist and social commentator.
Explains the vitality of her dialogue.
Probably from her family ,friends and people around her
So many characters She took from life
I could listen to Dr.Lucy Worsley all day. She is a fascinating teacher and brings history to life.
Lucy Worsley is, without a doubt, a National Treasure.
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Lucy Worsley is just amazing, and her book about Jane is too. I can also say that the audiobook version is great but be warned in the end when we learn about the last days of Jane I could not stop from crying.
Her last days were very sad. I have read her letters (all of them that survived) and that was sad reading indeed.
@@AlexandraK1 Where did you read them?
@@elramyeon You can buy them as a book, I think they were edited by Deirdre Le Faye.
This is the very best discussion on Jane Austen I have come across. Well done.
Lucy is the real deal. So well-researched and almost lyrical in her presentation. 🔥
Lucy makes me love history all over again. She makes it so interesting.
So pleased to see so many lovely comments about Lucy. She is a must see on my TV, which thankfully is quite often. In fact she should have her own channel. I love it when she dresses up, she can bring real humour to history and I've learnt more from her than I ever did at school. I'd love to go to a lecture given by her
These two work incredibly well together. Dan asks such thoughtful questions. I’m really enjoying this.
He asked exactly all the questions I wished to get the answers to concerning Jane Austen. I'm very thankful for this little video. It gives such a great perspective on how Austen lived and worked, and what was she like.
It is all scripted, don’t you know.
Two of my favorite presenters. A fantastic discussion. Many thanks.
So great love Dan Snow and Lucy Worsley separately. Together they are an even bigger force of nature for all things History. Keep on collaborating. Love the energy!
Lucy Worsley is such a character with all her costumery, love her programs!
Dr. Lucy Worsley is one of favorite historians and one of my inspiration into studying to become a curator and historian I hope one day to work with her on a historical project.
Always a pleasant way to learn about history from the erudite and lovely Lucy Worsely and Dan Snow is a great guide with this multi-faceted and superbly informative channel. Great stuff.
Wonderful to hear Lucy holding court about Jane Austen. Anything Lucy has to say is worth hearing. Brilliant that she speaks so eloquently and comfortably with an umbrella hooked over arm. And those buttons on her coat are fabulous!
She could be a Miss Marple, 30 years from now.
I love Lucy Worsley ! Loved everything she has on PBS . A smart and entertaining LADY 😉 please have her on History Hit more often !
I loved nearly all of the television adaptations of Jane Austin's novels. This video helped me understand her story, psychology and background better. I didn't know that she was born a month overdue!
I was a bit surprised to hear the Rev. George Austen described only as a teacher; his primary position was that of rector of St. Nicholas' church in Steventon. He did of course house and teach up to a dozen boys in the parsonage, but not for the entire time he was there. Moreover he was very supportive of his daughters' education, and especially his younger one, whose novels he would send to publishers with cover letters; and because she was the daughter of a clergyman, Jane Austen had a very fluid position in society: She and her siblings were received at the great houses and allowed to make the rounds of calls and balls that introduced them to eligible candidates for spouses, which they would not have been allowed had their father simply been the village school teacher. This social interaction for their children, in fact, is the reason many clergy did not take other jobs or positions that might have paid better, but would not have allowed them to intermingle socially with the landowning families.
Thankyou. Very important what you said, and a glaring exclusion.
Did that work out for the Reverend's other children, since it did not for Jane ?
@@sarahhearn-vonfoerster7401 As a rector, Jane's father George Austen was considered a gentleman, and through his wife Cassandra (Jane's mother) the family did have genuinely aristocratic connections. George himself also had some wealthy family connections, and it was through George's childless cousins Thomas and Elizabeth Knight that Jane's brother Edward came to be so wealthy, as they adopted him as their own when he was 16 years old, and duly made him their heir on condition he took their surname. So that was certainly a benefit of George's respectable social position, as they would certainly not have adopted a boy who was not of gentlemanly stock. Jane's sister, Cassandra, met her fiance Thomas Fowle because he was one of her father's boarding pupils. Sadly, he died abroad before they could marry, but he left her £1000, which in those days was a very respectable windfall which gave her a degree of financial security, if not independence, which Jane never had. So that was another direct benefit from their father's social position. The reason that Jane received the proposal from Harris Bigg-Wither referred to in this video is because, as the rector's daughter, she was on visiting social terms with that local wealthy family, and indeed was a close friend of the Bigg-Wither sisters. However, as a 'mere' parson's daughter, she was equally considered a not good enough catch by another wealthy local family, the Lefroys of Ashe House, for their nephew Tom Lefroy, who Jane is famously thought to have been in love with. Ironically, Mr Lefroy senior was also a rector, but a very much wealthier one than Mr Austen. So whilst Jane was welcomed as a friend for their daughter and allowed free run of their library, she was not considered a worthwhile marriage connection, apparently. So these things were not straightforward.
He was a nutcase and used to fire his gun out the window every morning when he woke up but I like that😂
I've done quite a lot of research on Austen and the family, and I don't remember reading about the shooting; but far from being a "nut case" he is pretty universally described as calm, rational, and compassionate; as well as open minded to the education of women, since he taught his daughters French and Italian and encouraged them to read just about anything in his library (and he had more than 500 volumes). He also wrote to publishers on Austen's behalf, so these do not sound like the actions of an insane person.
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What a treat! Thank you Lucy and Dan for sharing your insight, research and personal touches!!
Love Lucy and her knowledge. Jane Austin is my favorite Author since I was a child. She was so ahead of her time.
Absolutely amazing woman, more Worsley please.
Whilst it’s tragically sad Jane Austin didn’t have an overtly fulfilling life because of the prevailing social norms, it’s perhaps even more unpalatable to think about the many 1,000’s of girls and young women whom didn’t even make it into the “unlanded-landed gentry” level and had awful life’s of servitude or in unhappy and / or perhaps violent marriages.
Yep. And just think of all those lucky Afghani girls who have had a glimpse of the horrors of modern freedom but have now been saved from it. 🙄😬😬
@@theoztreecrasher2647 was this your attempt at sounding clever. What a fool.
Then... and now.
Or wonderfully blessed lives filled with lots of love and children
Don't bring it down celebrate the literary giant Jane Austen. Start with sense and sensibility
Delighted to tour Jane’s home with the two of you! I always found Emma an awakening. The acknowledgment of the frivolous & the unsightly in the interactions of self & acquaintances.❤
Fantastic. I loved how unscripted that was. I felt like I was just there listening to you have a fascinating conversation 😊
Good show!Lucy Worsley & Dan Snow have never disappointed me.The restoration of the house was great too.
Lucy Worsley is the best historian to watch ever. Thanks!
Lucy Worsley is a wonderful historian and presenter I am never disappointed when I view one of her programs. I visited the Jane Austen House museum about 10 yrs ago and it was wonderful, it does provide you with a window into the world in which she inhabited. While Jane was buried in Winchester (no mention of her novelist work is on her tombstone, since as Lucy noted it was not becoming of a lady of her class/time), her mom and sister have gravestones across the street and over a little bit from the house.
Jane’s name is on a slab of stone in Wincester cathedral. I walked over several times when I lived there, hoping her talent would rub off on me. Just kidding about the last thing. I did, however, gaze upon that stone on several occasions. Now I have a greater sense of her . . . greatness.
@@KatWoodland I definitely want to visit there.
@@Musicienne-DAB1995It’s quite lovely, Winchester Cathedral, and there’s even evidence of paganism throughout via carvings of The Green Man.
Winchester itself is a market town, or it was, and so its main street bustles with vendors selling their produce, on market days. When you visit you’ll be delighted by the charm.
As an American who grew up in New England, I especially appreciated whole pots of tea (rather than a soggy tea-bag in one cup) to accompany my slice of chocolate cake at 3:00 PM. At the time I had two preschool children in tow, and thus spent many hours at the “leisure center” the English name for an exercising facility, the parks, and of course the toy store. Fond memories and now they are enhanced by videos such as this one.
I have been to Chawton House a few times in my life. So wonderful to see it again! And I loved listening to Lucy talk about Jane. 😊
Just a delightful insight into one of our most beloved novelists. Thank you, Dr Worsley and Dan!
I’m a simple lady... I see Lucy Worsley and I tap..... seriously an icon telling me about an icon..
Jane Austen was such a pioneer. I always felt bad that she died so young. Her sister Cassandra must've been an interesting figure, though one knows so little of her. Hurray for historians Dan Snow and Lucy Worsley.
I also want to say, he really asked all the right questions! Very good interviewer
Lucy manages to capture this in a way that even children find more interesting than a school class room could, every show she is in i WILL watch! xox
Loved this little peek into Austen’s life (as a huge fan myself). Lucy never disappoints! Thank you for letting us know about her book, I went straight to Amazon and purchased. :)
I got emotional finding her plaque in Winchester Cathedral. Love Ms Austen's work.
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Lucy is the only historian who get me interested in history. Since listening to her I love history.
I could listen and learn more about Jane Austen all day. Thank you, Lucy, who is always brilliant and Dan Snow who asked the questions I would have asked Lucy. Are there photos of the house where Jane died in Winchester? I feel so blessed to have paid my respects to Jane in the exquisite Winchester Cathedral in 1994.
I have only ever seen external photos of it, which are readily available via a google search for 'house where Jane Austen died'. The address is 8 College Street, Winchester. I think it has always been in private ownership, so photos of the interior do not seem to be available, but at least it still exists, which is a blessing after 200 years. It is only round the corner from the Cathedral, so when you visited in 1994 you weren't far away!
Jane Austen will always be quite a mystery because of the letters destroy by her sister, Cassandra... whether because of embarrassing content or insights into her thoughts at the time. Great video!
No wonder sense & sensibility was so well written is because Jane experienced it.
Dear Lucy, Thank you so very much for entertaining and enlightening us.
Great vlog with 2 brilliant historians. Lucy has that knack of telling history in ways that make it easy for us to "get". Her research is fantastic which enables us to see a glimpse of whoever she is portraying and the circumstances of their life. If Jane was a "poker" then she must have been watching intently at some behaviour worth writing about. I have a small print of the Chawton house in my hall, it is under a print from Chaucer's Canterbury Tales, both writers were great observers of human behaviour. Thanks Dan and Lucy for a wonderful history lesson.
I love seeing Lucy! She is top-notch!
The flashy theory of death by arsenic poisoning (as it was in many over the counter medications at the time) is from finding three pairs of her eyeglasses in her last several years showing her vision rapidly deteriorated, and that was supposedly a side effect of cataracts caused by arsenic, and that she had darker facial pigment at the end of her years assumed to be caused by arsenic ingestion. However, to me, the general consensus of her death by Addison's disease makes sense as also causes blurred vision and the pigment disorders of both melasma and vitilago. Addison's is also linked with thyroid disorders and anemia, which all weaken the immune system, as does the disease itself.
Another theory is that she had Hodgkin's Lymphoma, which is also linked to having a preexisting autoimmune disease such as Addison's. And finally, she could have also been born with a primary immunodeficiency syndrome or had another underlying autoimmune disease such as Lupus, concurrent with either Addison's or Hodgkin's Lymphoma. Apologies if this is a lot of info, but I have a primary immunodeficiency myself which also causes multiple autoimmune diseases (faulty autoimmune regulator "AIRE" gene)and thus have a higher risk of lymphoma and I would have also likely been dead by 41 myself in the Georgian save for modern medicine.
I also have read that she was a sickly child, so perhaps her light household duties that were granted upon her by her mother were from that, and also may have been why she avoided marriage.Otherwise she would have been expected to be a brood mare and produce many children, which could easily have proven fatal to someone with compromised health. The description of her personality is similar to mine, which comes from learning to guard myself from a young age against great family expectations, by watching others with a disinterested facade, all while enjoying the ridiculous human drama that enfolds, and being able to only be my true self in close, trusted company. In that light, I admire her even more, for how much she accomplished with sharing her writing and in choosing to lead her own life even through major health challenges and familial obligations.
Here's a great article on her possible causes of death: janeaustensworld.com/tag/arsenic/
How can anyone hate Emma?
For years I thought Jane Austen was for teenage girls in love. How wrong I was. Thank you for a great video.
Winston Churchill loved Austen and read her in times of stress
I like Emma but can't stand Mansfield Park. There's not a single character I like or can relate to in the book, Fanny has got to be the worst character, self-righteous snob.
@@charlottebruce979Snob? No. Milquetoast insipid pushover
He said. Marrying father figure gives one the ick. I agree but otherwise Emma is fine to me
@@charlottebruce979 I like Emma too!
But it's hard for me to imagine Fanny Price as being a snob, she's the poor cousin who was everyone's doormat!
Really interesting. The tiny table where Jane wrote was quite a shock. It is hard to imagine some of the world's greatest novels written on such a tiny table.
So brilliant! Thank you Lucy and Dan!
I adore Emma.....those who don't seem to not recognize the humor in Emma....she is beautiful, spoiled, self absorbed & so sure of herself & funny!! Please don't take her so seriously....she does have a conscience...her father spoiled her..everyone spoiled her!! Lighten up & you will enjoy the novel much more...
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An erudite person enjoying her documentaries and presentations, Lucy Worsley. Keep it going.
I'm an Australian 66yrs old male and read all Jane's books. And lm an 20 yr Army male and heterosexual. Great reading, may she R.I.P.
my writing tutor was an Austen Phd, and he was a massive strapping bloke who always wore a Wales rugby shirt. He was ace :)
Lucy Worsley is the only person on the planet that could get me to watch or read anything about Jane Austen, and here she is getting me to do both.
Not only about Jane Austen
I like Lucy Worsley many documentaries
Always a pleasure to learn with Lucy, especially about dear Jane!
Lucy is so knowledgable and passionate and one can’t help but to feel the need to know more. I really enjoyed this. I adore history and especially literature from which I have probably learned far more than I ever did during my educational years. 😃
I'm most cross, Jane never saw how much happiness she brought to the world.
It's sad, yes. But she did receive some positive reviews in her lifetime.
Thank you so much. It was a pleasure seeing this with the gracious Lucy Worsley.
Thank you! My love for Jane has increased 100x.
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Lucy Worsley could talk about accounting and I would listen.
I like when Dan says it makes him angry that this brilliant writer was so stymied during her lifetime simply because she was female. I love that Lucy says Jane Austen’s writing was subversive! ❤
Lots of black people forgotten about , white washed history makes me extremely angry
@@lporquai9048 you’re so right! So much colonial bull we were fed in history classes in the western world! Accomplishments of Women were left out and even more so the history of so-called “minorities” - in CDA the minorities added together are a majority! Unfortunately because they settle mostly only in the biggest cities, Toronto Montreal & Vancouver - smaller groups in Edmonton Halifax etc.; rural Canada is still racist white communities - I’m not happy in our semi-rural town near Niagara Falls. I love my multicultural Toronto - a festival on the streets almost every weekend with fabulous food from around the world! Lived there from age 4-63 and do so miss it!
On the other hand, if she had lived an easy life perhaps her writing would have lacked the acerbity and acute social observation that make her such a brilliant author. You can sense in her writing that she must have been enormous fun to be with, quick-witted and with a wicked sense of humour. Her early death was a sad loss to literature.
@@lporquai9048not to mention the working class.
@lporquai9048 I do apologize if this is inappropriate but I don’t understand where your criticism comes from, out of the blue perhaps. In Georgian England there where very few people of any other race that were independent, the other few were highly valued for the status of having African male servants or kept female servants for company for the rich families wives & daughters. It was a very different world from the one we now live in. Like the way Jane Austen didn’t mention the Napoleonic wars, which if she had wanted to she most certainly would have, so these were her choices for telling of her stories, as simple as that.
Thank you Dan and Lucy. What a lovely conversation about Jane Austen.
I’ve toured this house!! And now to see it through the eyes of two of my favorite documentary historians.
I studied 'Emma' for A-level, and was singularly unimpressed. I re-read it ten years later, and laughed like a drain. The character of Emma seems to me to be well-meaning, if somewhat selfish, but deeply flawed, particularly by her inability to see other people's point of view. I don't think I'd want her as a friend! But the book is a delight.
I love all her books but admit I've always wanted to kick dear Emma in the shin.
I also sniffed at Emma when I was 17 but now I'm 45 (and have a 25 year career in publishing and editing), I feel like I can actually get the jokes. Just last night I re-read the chapter where Isabella arrives and she Mr Woodhouse immediately get into this super polite battle of wills that's also a sort of proxy war between two doctors (Isabella's Mr Wingfield, and the infamous never-appearing Mr Perry) and at the same time it's a hypochondriac-off and of course there's a smooth thin gruel reference... But picking up on half of this depends so much on my very-post-high-school experience of relatives who talk about their own illness all the time, passive-aggressive emotional mind games, and you know what, I'm going to say Seinfeld and the appreciation that a conversation can be about nothing and still be hilarious.
The Clueless movie is basically Emma for the 90's.
The book I really loathe is not any of Jane's. It's Wuthering Heights 🤢 Only a psychopath could have produced such a sick work.
@@elizabethwoolnough4358 Jane Eyre is similarly rather sick ( I only recently read it )
My 2 favourite historians with such an interesting topic thank you thank you thank you 🤩
Simply delightful. Well done. Two of my most favourite historians! Excellent presentation. Thank you. Cheers
Love Emma. She’s confident and wants that for her friend. She doesn’t marry her “father figure” she marries her friend. She doesn’t know she’s in love with him until he’s no longer available and realize she will lose him. No longer be able to speak with him or visit whenever they like.
Very very good interview and commentary Lucy really knows her stuff this is absolutely spot on
Thank you. I love Lucy Worsley’s work. And, of course, Dan Snow’s.
Love it! I always learn so much when Lucy Worsley speaks..
Ms. Worsley, thank you for giving me a new Christmas present idea for my mom. She's loved Jane Austen for the past 40 years and I think she'd really love to read this. Interesting video on Jane Austen's house as well. If I could ever afford to go, I'd love to go and see it in person.
Might not cost as much as you think.
I love the idea that young Jane Austen complained of hangovers. You go girl, paint the town! Not the picture I had of her when I first read her at school.
Her letters about parties she attended are very funny.
Loved this! Thank you so much. Please please let Lucy tell us also all about Mary Shelley.
Literature graduate from the othe side of the world ,we have immersed ourselves in Jane Austen 's classics as part of our curriculum. Hours spent in library learning abt the society of that period and discussing abt it. ever been to those places to see first hand! Was always a dream for me. Now watching this short vedio brought back all the old college memories back.
Lucy Worsely is so cute. Absolutely beautiful. And what a story teller!
Wife-y material
@@stclairstclair most definitely 👍
Lucy Worskey, thanks so much for the interesting history, fascinating history.