PERSECUTORS - "EVIL" Personalities? | All About Alters Ep6 | Dissociative Identity Disorder REUPLOAD
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yesterday my sexual persecutor left me a note expressing how they really feel and it taught me so much. i cried so hard and i felt so bad for painting them as a bad person in the past.
One of my alters Cain has become a protector after being a persecutor and I cherish him so much. He’s hurt us so much but he’s getting better and protects us now. This video made him really happy and understood
I'm a friend of 5 maybe 6 different people who have DID. They have all come into my life in the last 6 months. And only in last 2 have I suspected and last month began having discussions with them. One is a girl I fell in love with. She told me she couldn't have a relationship and I didn't listen. I told her I love her unconditionally. But I have t step back because it hurts. I believe they can all work togetherm and we could have a life but im letting her go and praying she comes back. I've started a book about a kid with a terrible life who grows into protector..the first super hero whose strength is his alters. Thank you for sharing..I lt helps me understand
@@TheQuantumstew umm
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LMFAO, y'all weird & attention seeking asf DID is very rare. The disorder affects between 0.01 and 1% of the population so the chances of any of you having it is close to none! DELUSIONAL GWORLS
One of my alters likes to dip their balls in wax and have my other alters be like damn this waxy sack. So hes pretty annoying. Also I have no sympathy for people who exploit their fake mental illnesses.
I have DID. I have a persecutor. I won't share their name, however, I had a time where I (the system host) "woke up" under a bridge. I was terrified and it was cold and raining. I wish people wouldnt glamourize this disorder, It can be scary at times and I wish that on nobody. I'm luckily trying to overcome it and communicate with my alters and see through this. This disorder makes people see me as dumb (because of the amnesia) they think it's fake or I'm doing it for attention. I want to quickly thank you for making these videos so I can learn more about myself, and feel less alone, knowing I'm not the only one going through this. After years of brushing it off as, "I'm just scatterbrained" I'm finally accepting it, getting the help I need and I hope one day I can educate others on this topic too
hey there! hope you are able to get the help you need (and deserve!) and that the people around you learn to understand you better. Don`t ever think of yourself as dumb or not deserving of anything. Lots of love and I wish you all the best on your healing journey!
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It can get better :) much love and best wishes!❤❤❤
I was a persecutor, I'm now a gatekeeper. It's really nice to see a video explaining on why persecutors do what they do. Keep doing what you're doing
I used to have a persecutor who became a protector thanks to this video back in the day. It helped me understand to not fight fire with fire, to open my arms to her instead, and I'm so greateful for this video. Thank you so much for reuploading it. It took a long time, but we eventually became really close as host and protector, and we integrated on Christmas Eve 2020, and are dealing with things much better together. Thank you, from the bottom of our hearts.
Im so happy to see more and more videos being re-uploaded! Its been so long since I have seen Chloe since she integrated and became Nin. Its so amazing to see how much you have grown and changed, especially now that Kya is here. I hope you are all well. ♥
I watched this channel for quite a while for information and also got to care about Chloe's story, now i didn t watch much since she stopped uploading for a long while. Can you explain what happened ? Since you said as far as I understand that Chloe is no more and now the main character so to say is Nina
@@atelalu1 so the previous host (chloe) integrated with nina (sexual protector) to create a new alter/host named nin…then later on nin integrated with kyle (primary protector) to later create a new alter/host named kya!
@@slaydaybae Aaa I get it, which basically means in a way that it's slowly becoming a stable situation as in due to the merge between the personalities the host won t be dissociating as much
@@atelalu1 So the videos they are re-uploading are their much older videos. When they started this channel the host at the time was Chloe. Later on, Chloe and Nina integrated to make Nin. Nin was the host for a while (I think about 1.5 yearsish) and recently a few months ago, Nin and Kyle (the systems primary protector) integrated to make Kya. So Chloe is still around in her own way, her personality isnt as pronounced as it was before since many of them have integrated together and she isnt the main "host" anymore. If you watch their newest video explaining what happened to their videos, you can very much see Nin and Kyles personalities in Kya, and in that you see a bit of Chloe since Nin was Chloe and Nina together. I dont have DID so I hope I am explaining that correctly and using the right terms. :(
@@OhHeyItsShey you did no worries i don't have DID either but you explanation was more than fine. Thank you so much ❤
I actually found your channel through Anthony’s video on did, and it’s been one of the huge things that’s helped me finally come to terms and accept that I do have alters, so uh thank you very much. -Gen
Is "Genieva Conventions" your system name? I really like it, if so
Growing up I had a very troubled and violent brother who caused me a lot of trauma, but things got really bad for me when I first met my dad at age 11. I do have C-PTSD and amnesia from those experiences, on top of that regaining and holding some of the memories from that time in my life has been very difficult. I could only imagine what my life might be like if my dad had reached out to me and my brother a few years earlier before I had a fully intergraded personality. For anyone scrolling through this comment section who maybe wasn't as lucky as me, I send you nothing but love and strength
did your dad help you then?
@@notrecyborg5492 No they're saying their dad made things worse
I started crying , only by listening to such comforting words . I'm a persecutor myself and all I want is to end the pain and anger I'm in .
- Ryan ( Khaydensystem)
Everyone explode this comment with support
I hope what going to say doesn't anyone. I don't have DID, but when I learned how this disorder manifests, my heart broke into a million pieces, and to think some individuals think this is something to joke about or trivialize. A child is so precious, so innocent. It is absolutely infuriating that anyone suffering from this was traumatized so severely. All of you are incredibly strong and resilient, and my heart goes out to you. I wish everyone the best, and please know you are the epitome of strength. You are incredible people with so much to offer.
I don't have DID and I absolutely don't want to compare myself to people with DID, but the explanation about the persecutor and how to treat them reminds my of my own story.
I grew up in a not so healthy household (I don't want to get in any details, but in comparison to whatever you have been through, my experience is nothing). That's why I became a very sad person with social phobia, etc.
In addition to that I went through some other things in a short span of time (2017/2018).
That's when everything went downhill. At first I became very outgoing, chatty and confident, that sadness almost completely disappeared, but a new emotion appeared instead, it was unbearable anger and HATE.
Out of nowhere I would slip into this extreme rage. Due to my past I developed a strong self control (you know, to not anger that certain person from my childhood). It came in handy at this point, because of that I was always able to remove myself from other people into an empty room and luckily no one ever noticed what was going on.
That anger wasn't against myself, but against every person around me, especially my family. The thoughts I had were dark and today I don't even understand those thoughts anymore.
Because I was scared of losing control at some point and hurting someone else instead of myself, I decided to go to a psychiatric hospital. They guessed I might have developed a borderline disorder, which they couldn't confirm.
They did a lot of tests, but it was this one thing my therapist said, that changed everything:"maybe you're actually not angry, but because of all the events and your past your brain got confused about the way of how to express sadness. Maybe you're not angry, but disappointed, because you feel betrayed and let down. Except your sadness back and the new bubbly side. Maybe that's who you actually are, but it was never able to break out." This opend my eyes.
When you said it's more harm than good to make the persecutor the evil person, it reminded me of that. An angry person is most likely a very hurt person. That person needs love and healing, instead of even more rejection and pain.
Anger is sadness, anger is fear, the fear eats the soul. Love disperses the fear, automatically, just us (turning on) the light disperses the darkness. The persecutor can feel loved and become the cleverest protector, she has lived a few dangerous things and tough situations, and she has survived, she is a total badass and she deserves to live a wholesome adventurous life. Amen❤❤❤
Some systems include those who aren't MEANING to hurt the others, who just don't know how to function or want to hurt themselves alone.
I(Tegan, the host) can relate to this. In our system, Vivian(we nickname her Chara. Side note: wr have nicknames for eachother.) is a persecutor. But not intentionally. She's very emotionally reserved and lacks empathy for most people. Because of this she is very... Blunt, more rational but doesn't express much emotion. And she often comes off as very verbally violent. When she's highly misunderstood. I thought this would be a good example. I love her as a sister, and while it took years to develop this dynamic. We accept her as she is because we understand that she is in pain. The same goes for Valerie, a protector that used to be a persecutor. So very much.. They're not evil.. They're just hurting 🖤💛
omg I love her hair!
Edit: Also, thank you for educating me! I been learning so much from RUclipsrs from Tourette's, Anxiety, Autism, Gender Dysphoria, and now DID.
so we have recently been diagnosed with osdd. and we resented our alter blake for taking his anger out on all of us. After watching this i feel horrible for him and feel bad for what i said to him. This really opened my eyes to what might be behind his behavior. I appreciate this. dont think ive ever thought of him like that.
I don’t know the best way to say this, but I really want to say that I look up to you, I’m glad that you’re helping educate others with DID and help those who many not understand have a better understanding of it, and I enjoy being able to educate myself on it with the help of you as well as your other alters :)
Thank you for this. I had a friend who has DID, I was looking EVERYWHERE for any information on DID, but I couldn't really find much that would help me understand it very well? Especially persecutors. I did know that that was an alter who hurts the system but I had no idea how to talk to them when they come out? I still am not sure, we are not friends any more but I remember their persecutor came out once and I just left the conversation because I was afraid I am going to hurt them (it was in a moment when they were already leaving so I made sure it wasn't rude or hurtful but I was worried that I had NO CLUE how to make them feel comfortable...) it's a shame I found your channel so late but I will still gladly educate myself, in case I meet someone else with this disorder so I can feel much more confident I'm not going to hurt them by accident
Imagine that you (me) didn't even know that you have DID. This is the video you see and the information you get. THEN you get the diagnosis and months later you come across one of your prosecutors. Only prior information about prosecutors that you have is this video. I'm so thankful really from the bottom of my heart that this was the first information I got and not The Split or something. I didn't need to wonder what is happening, I didn't need to get afraid. I knew right then and there how to act and why the prosecutor is how she is and I got to love her since the first second I met her. I got to have the most healthy journey with my DID just because of you. I'm so thankful. Chloe, I know your'e integrated but you really did change my life.
wow.
That's wonderful!
Love the Makeup and Hair Girl^^
Glad the videos are coming back
-Alana {From the Sweets System}
Oh my gosh i love the name of your system so much
Your system name is the best thing I’ve ever seen ngl-
I have an alter that im pretty sure is a persecutor by what you explained except She doesn't seem to want to hurt me but She shoves others away and hates everyone I love or gets close to me. She lashes out and it can get pretty ugly. My partner knows of Her and it hurts me to see his pained face when She lashes at him because She doesn't think he's good enough for me and every male figure in our lives have been abusive and shitty minus maybe two but She hates them all regardless. I try hard to keep Her under control but I feel so much pain from Her that I know She has taken on due to past abuse and trauma. I dont know how to work with Her yet but watching this video I will say had me in tears and bawling because all I want to do is take the pain She feels off Her shoulders so She maybe doesn't hate so hard and so biased and your video just hit so hard in a place I know She felt too. Im hoping maybe that means She can feel more heard and understood and I can start working with Her so she's not as aggressive and hurting those I love because She's trying to protect me in some messed up way. I know its stupid that a RUclips video would help someone with a disorder as severe as DID can be, but you put it in such a perspective for me that it gave me a bit of hope that I can help Her and in turn myself. I only have 3 and She is the one who has taken all my pain and hurt on her shoulders so I want Her to know She is valid and deserves to feel good too. You really did help me a lot seeing this video thank you for all you do your videos are so educational and heartfelt to the point I can personally relate so much that it makes living with DID feel not so lonely. ♡
Update?
@dreamznaspiratons7064
It's taken a lot of therapy and talking for Her to cope with things and not hate so hard. She's a lot calmer now, but She's got a long way to go but I understand someone who was literally born and shaped by pain and a lifetime of hurt taking the brunt of it all isn't going to get better overnight. I have better control over Her and it doesn't give me as bad of a headache to have Her out as it used to.
Baby steps :3
I don't have DID, but I've been following you for a few years. You're such a strong person for being able to come on to a public platform and share this information to destigmatize this condition even though there's so much risk. Thank you for educating us. I wish I could've kept you from the trauma that caused this, but know that I am among so many people who admire you, care about your well being, and want to keep you safe even though we've never met you.
I am going to my appointment tommorow to figure out if I do. I’m not diagnosing myself only my doctor can diagnose me, but there is a pretty high chance I do considering how what I’m feeling on a daily basis is just like yours (in a way)
Edit: I do indeed have DID and I’m the primary host! Hi!
~Sahara
In our experience...and maybe its just our system, but..befriending and showing love to persecutors is the best way to help them..They aren't evil, they're just confused and angry and hurt. They're a victim, just like you...-Smoke
Thanks a lot for saying this!
... Honestly, my boyfriend has DID and his persecutor alter has made me have some distressing times and it continues to go on. He says that all the alters do not want me to be with him, and belittle me... I do not know, I am not a person that understands herself on her own properly, I do have my own issues and my boyfriend has made me find the light somewhat.
Yet, nowadays he wants to break up with me and refrains himself from me while the alters front him. I know that it is inappropriate to vent on the net but... I cannot hold it in anymore, I want to be his support and strength. I am not willing to go away, even if he or his alters don't want any kind of support, I just want him to know that I will be there whenever he needs me or not. Am I doing things wrong? I do not know, am I being too pushy, I do not know!..
P.S.: I think that alters can have their own thoughts and say different things to the person in front of them and this might be misleading, so I am not trying fall for it... I have been in a distance relationship with my boyfriend and would see each other in real life soon. Even though he has said "He doesn't love me anymore" I won't believe that 'till I see him. Because I do know he normally enjoys my companionship yet prefers to be blunt or alone most of the times that the alters front him time to time and I would call out to him no matter what, saying "I am here."
...I really do not know anymore, sorry for taking your time to read this but any kind of support and comment is okay. :')
++After talking to him a bit, I am convinced that he either wanted to stay alone for some days or that alter kept on intimating him (or see what I aimed to do). Better ask my boyfriend that later
@@cereniremakkurt7614 hey, any update? Hoping that you can grow a stronger relationship with all the alters.
@@Yaorii I do not know anymore...
@@cereniremakkurt7614how did it go?
I really needed this today. I was ruminating on why I has created an alter who continued to hurt
me in new/internal ways after the original abuse ended.
I’m so happy you have so many videos I can continue to learn from
This was good and helpful! My good friend has d.i.d. and her persecutor alters have been hurting her and they sometimes chat with me in emails and messenger, so I'm trying to do the best I can to tread carefully. So yes please more videos on how to communicate with them, and/or from their point of view would be good.
I find your videos so helpful! I think learning about DID has helped me realize that we all have parts of ourselves that are represented by your alters. DID separates your emotions and feelings. Without it it’s all one and you have to give light to all the aspects of yourself not just the ones that are socially acceptable. Thank you for spreading knowledge and sharing your guys experiences!
i dont have DID but i watch your videos out of curiosity. what i did not expect was to be in tears with how empathetic and intelligent you are!! i am literally crying because of how touching your message is (starts around 9:00). i can only imagine actually struggling with this and feeling that fear, only to finally realize that somebody understands. so yeah you are fantastic and thank you for reposting these videos after everything you had to deal with 💗💗 you are an amazing and kind person
I literally love you so much I'm so glad you decided to start this channel it helps me and my Alters so much I can't express my love enough, you are a role model for almost every single one of my Alters (including my Persecutor) and I thank you for that I wish I could hug you and tell you thank you face to face.
I dont know how to explain how impactful this video to me is even from the first time you uploaded this. I dont have DID but i can clearly and proudly say that this video has motivated my to better myself and to better may communication skills to my loved ones and other people. Im really glad you're back. Much Love to you and to the system. I have a lot of respect for all of you.
i'm just- THE HAIR IT'S AMAZING
I LOVE seeing your videos coming back up ❤️❤️❤️your hair & makeup looks incredible! I hope you are doing well! Take care!!
I personally dont have DID but my friends girlfriend does. when I first started watching the channel in 2019 I had a massive hyper fixation episode (I have ADHD) on DID and I started to talk about it more around them. her persecutor didn't like that and I had to learn the hard way. Im so glad I was finally able to see this video! this helps me to truly understand how they felt or why they did what they did. because of this video I was able to forgive and forget the pain and embarrassment. Thanks again DissociaDID!
To say “It’s complicated.” Would probably be an understatement. Pain manifests in different ways and persecutors are a way.
So happy to see your videos back up! ❤️
I'm soooooo happy your vids are back again💜🖤
So nice to be able to watch some old videos! I love your content, thanks for posting about this
nice to see you guys again!
Really happy you are reuploading these videos, it's very interesting!
This is so helpful for society as a whole. The self awareness from all of you really helps me make sense of how our personalities and behaviors are shaped, DID or not. All of the advice on how to approach persecutors is so empathic and helpful.
you reuploading these videos during the time of me figuring out who i am with this disorder… just after standing up to the abuser… i appreciate it so much. thank you.
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I have missed you all soooo much!!!! Love your back!!!
God DAMN that make up look is wow, she rocked it so good💕
I love your videos so much. You’re one of my biggest role models. Thank you.
You are an AMAZING human being!!! I have been learning SO MUCH from your channel and you all. This is such an important channel for everyone to watch. Your passion and intelligence is unmatched - especially in this video. Wow. Thank you for fighting and creating and being so brave. Never stop. ❤️ sending you so much love
i wish you all the best, its so beautiful how far you've come in your journey and im glad you uploaded these videos again. so grateful for how bold you are, you've got this!💕💙
You are so strong I wish you the best... Thank you for doing this, I'm happy I am learning more about DID! I never truly understand just how difficult it can truly be. I'm sending you lots of good vibes.
Watching all, leaving a like and a comment to help with the views and engagement. Lots of love and welcome back ❤️
I don’t have DID but I recently stumbled across you’re channel and this is so powerful I think what all of you are doing is amazing and I just appreciate you all for sharing 💜
This is an important video and I feel like it is especially important for persecutors to hear or see. Thank you once more for all the work you put into this channel and these videos. Lots of love!
I am glad those videos are back. I wantes to learn about DID and discovered your channel when most videos were erased.
You are a outstanding person, i can’t thank you enough for creating these videos you have educated me on a topic that isn’t talked about enough and for that I thank you
so glad videos are being reuploaded
Watching each of your videos and living for the hair and makeup combos 😍😍❤️
I met a persecutor last night and this video helps. Thank you. Could you do more vids on persecutors please? Also I'm happy you got your vids back. You've helped me immensely in the past. Thank you for that 😇👏🥰
i really love your eye makeup and also you have such pretty and expressive eyes . ALSO i am in complete awe of you, you are an actual epitome of strength and fortitude.
Thanks for your work! I am learning so much! You are so strong, amazing, awesome and beautiful! I think that you are helping so many people! You are educating people who didn’t know about it!I have to say that I like your makeup & hair! !🤗
They just keep on comming!!! Looove this!!
Thank you so much ❤️❤️❤️ Such a power full message ❤️❤️
I'm sorry, I have a quiestion that's been on my mind. If a persecutor can't handle or deal with the trauma and pain they're experiencing, is that when integration happens? Or is it possible for the persecutor to build another amnesic wall from which another alter develops?
Interesting question. I would like to know the answer to this as well, please.
Following.
Hmm good question, if anyone has personal experience I’ll love to hear so.
From what I understand, both situations can occur when an alter is too overwhelmed. It’s not usually a conscious choice to integrate/ fuse or split (though I have heard of systems that can chose to fuse). But when an alter, persecutor or not, is really struggling with mental stress or trauma, they tend to either integrate or the system splits and forms another alter. Nina from the dissociaDID system was said to be dealing with some issues and not handling things well when they fused with Chloe to form Nin. This perhaps is as their mind felt they would able to deal with the issues better with the strength of the two combined. It is a coping mechanism after all. I’ve also heard systems mention in times of overwhelming stress that they split off another alter that sometimes is to help deal with the problem at hand, or to hold the pain.
TLDR; it’s individual to each system, but both scenarios are common. And the fusing or splitting of prosecutors doesn’t seem to be any different than other alters in the system.
Oh! And another ‘option’ would be dormancy. Some alters can be dormant due to a few reasons, one being if they can’t deal with what they’re going through. There is no set length to dormancy it can be short or up to decades.
@@i_am_amberleaf6708 Thank you so much! That explains it really well. So there's three possible 'options' for when any alter can't handle their pain: fusing, splitting and dormancy. It isn't necessarily a conscious choice to do any of these three but they can happen.
Seth would hurt me everytime I am stressed out or crying. I understand him because he blames me for not guarding my littles. I appreciate him.
I'm a little sad that this video "only" has a little under 100k views when others have over a million. It's such a good and valuable video of yours. Thank you for your work. ❤
“if someone is causing you pain you are within your rights to leave please take care of yourself” from someone living w trauma thank you for sharing that it’s easy to forget
You explained it so good and so clearly, thank you❤️
Is there a video on getting over manipulation from a past abuser? I really struggle to leave my trauma behind me because sometimes if feel I'm making it up, or I misread intentions. If anyone has suggestions on maybe some mental exercises it would be of great help.
Hey, I don't know of any videos on moving on from trauma, but I do have complex PTSD and am studying psychology. For me personally, re-evaluating or becoming aware of the effects of manipulation helps; Think of something that your abuser stopped you doing, or affected your behaviour, point that out in your head, and try and cement that as negative. Hopefully it will help break the mental patterns caused by consistent manipulation, and allow you to move past habits. Ofc that's only one suggestion and it works differently for everyone, so I would suggest seeing a therapist if possible!
But to be clear; you are most definitely not making it up. If someone manipulated or abused you, that is the abuser to blame, and definitely not you. You did not deserve it, or make it up. In fact, a common sign of avoidant abuse behaviour is wishing that you had been traumatized, or telling yourself you made it up, fun fact! That.. wasn't actually fun but you know what I mean ^^;
Feel free to reach out to me if you ever want to talk - I'm CliBan on Tumblr, ban_cli on Twitter, and CliBan#6866 on Discord
One thing my therapist told me that worked for me is to actively consider what the likelihood of the person who actually cares for you would willing engage in that situation or behavior. I stop, think about the realistic outcomes and how I could handle it, and if I can't get a grip on it, I ask a person I know will be honest
As someone who struggles with ptsd and c-ptsd and has dealt with an abuser, I'd recommend poetry or journaling. Writing things out can help you properly process it, and if you're able, showing other people your poetry or writing can help you realize how Not Okay it was from their reaction.
Hi you guys!!!! I just found this channel and I love it!!!!!
I was a persecutor now i protect us and yes we’re hurt
Welcome back ❤
I used to watch your videos for years with a vague interest, now I'm a newly discovered system. I wondered if I was faking, so I tried to ignore it, but I switched anyway. I found my first persecutor today. I'm trying, but it's so difficult. I'm afraid of my own brain.
I remember watching this a long time ago, I'm happy it's coming back! ❤️
Thx for the vids dudes, makes laying awake at 5am in crisis mode alil more bearable to hav resources available
this hurt and was to much for me watch all the way, but thank you so much.
From what I’m learning about DID, I want to understand every aspect of the disorder. This is a part of it. I might not fully understand the disorder and having the knowledge that the disorder is made by trauma at a young age gives me the understanding of the persecutors. I can’t fully emphasize with the persecutors because I don’t have the same experiences but I can understand why they do the things that they do.
hi! i hope you don’t mind me asking (and i hope this isn’t at all rude or anything) but can you drive a car? i know the law says you need to be 16 but what happens if an alter that is younger than that age were to front while driving? also would each of your alters have to take a test? you totally don’t have to answer but it’s just something i have been sondering
For legal things they use the body’s name and legal documentation, so the system would only have to take it once. I think the system is allowed to drive and if they are dissociating or notice it they would pull over. However, I know some systems who prefer not to drive bc they don’t want to risk a flashback or dissociation. I hope this helps!
Understanding why and how a persecutor is how they are is key. Our persecutor is the embodiment of anger. He protected us in a very physical way, and he didn't know where to put that residual anger. He blamed me for constantly putting us in dangerous situations. For us, understanding that anger is not the enemy really helped our relationship with our persecutor. He is now in the process of rehabilitation, but he will fight if he has to. And at this present time, I need him to stay like that.
We discovered a persecutor who’s been hurting some alters and the body, but yesterday he fronted and our partner system managed it to get through to him and talk to him, we really hope he’ll understand someday
Very interesting thank you!
Hi I am a protector and I used to be a persecutor. Now we have an other persecutor who scared the shit out of my most beloved ones and I think they wanna improve but don't know how. They could be so great as a protector and the system needs them as well. How can I show to my loved ones this persecutor's nice side? And how can I fully trust this persecutor? I mean I don't know if they lie about this and I also fear them.
All systems are an emersive experience, smile, and, breathe we love you ❤
Ok, that hair and makeup combo is neeeext level
Omg the hair it’s so pretty I love rainbows
I love your hair colors!
This info defenitely helps fight the stigma about persecutor alters. The body's hair looks beautiful in this video.
11:23-12:30 ..... i dont know who cried but we cried at this. Watching more of your videos to get an understanding .... at bare minimum we have cptsd, cant afford therepy right now so trying to do as much research as possible in the meantime.. thank you for this
I am just playing it in the background, because I watched those videos before, and I want my views to matter, even if only a little bit.
Comment mainly for algorithm.
But also sending much love and support to Your system! Take care of yourself :)
I would love to hear it from a persecutors perspective!
You are a sweetheart!
Much love to you all❤❤
Good evening, I'm just watching this (host, primary one out) and I'm starting to realize that one of mine is a persecutor. This one has tormented the littles and likes to scare me and the other two that can be scared. Thank you for explaining things about this stuff on the internet, I know it can be a scary place and I appreciate what you are doing for the whole community. How come the persecutors do not just say it instead of tormenting though?
Thank you ❤️
I have a persecutor who pushes certain people away sometimes when they front because these people stopped me from hurting myself so they try to get rid of them
Thank you.
I did not expect to be this early
God, the graphics are amazing.
I somehow developed about 8-10 alters during childhood but did NOT lose my consciousness. The alters supported me emotionally as changing mindsets
Holy crap this was a Good one...
One thing I’ve always wanted to know, is there any point where the body shuts down? Like there’s no one fronting at all and there’s just nothing there?
thats an interesting question
For our system, and our fiance's system, yes but it is extremely rare and usually results in a new alter being revealed, something deeply connected to the subconscious. Thats just for me and my fiance though, neither of us formally diagnosed. Take your grain of salt.
Yes, this is a thing that can happen especially when you're dealing with high-stress situations and fronting doesn't provide any sort of benefit. I used to shut down a lot during my first couple years of college from going through so much at once. Including traumatic events.
That would be on the severe "dissociation" end of the disorder, I would wager. Dissociation at the furthest end is when you are not connected to yourself consciously. I do not have DID, but I do experience dissociation.
My partner sometimes gets complete and total amnesia + severe bodily dissociation so I'd say yes. But I imagine since that state isn't very sustainable it doesn't happen often or last long.
Thank you 🙏💗💗💗💗💗
I care for a system where a Persecutor USED TO be a Protector, so there’s sadness all around and they feel very stuck
Update? What changed him
My aunt age 37 had did and schizophrenia her whole life but she believes the voice she hears is a Jihn I always thought it was a schizophrenia hallucination that tells her that it's a jihn but today she had a schizophrenia attack saying that she is hearing the jihn again while I was with her I told her he isn't real there's nothing such as "jihn" and she said he was screaming at her that he is real to the point where SHE SWITCHED but idk how she s a weird case she NEVER switches it only happens rarely like once every year or 2 but she hears her other personality from time to time along with schizophrenia hallucinations again she doesn't believe in neither did nor schizophrenia she thinks its a jihn she hears and that she's possest but today after her schizophrenia attack I realised she's dissociating she was sitting in bed I didn't think much of it because I ve never seen her switch before until she switched AND IT WAS AN ACTUAL JIHNshe believed that she was possest so much that the personality itself thinks he's a JIHN it was weird but fascinating he didn't move and only talked the only explanation I could come up with is that he only fronts once in like a decade so he maybe doesn't know how to move the body? Anyway since I was telling her it's a lie he kept saying to me I'm real I'm a jihn I possest this girl ever since she was little and there is nothing you can do to expel me and kept repeating that for like 5 min no matter what I say he said he is a jihn he firmly believed it until he dissociated and my aunt came back she told me she could see me but couldn't move or talk and told me that she wasn't lying and I ve seen it with my own eyes and that the jihn is in the back of her head telling her that he isn't fake and isn't lying and proved himself and his controll over my aunt and would harm my aunt if she ever doubts his existence again I was so confused that an actuall person an ALTER could think that he is a real jihn possessing the body so I did some research and I think he is an abuser alter and I think he couldn't stand being told that he is fake that he forced his way to front in the body but he didn't last long maybe cause he is not used to it? Anyway my mind is set and I won't stop until that jihn knows that he is a person and not a jihn.
You better go take your aunt to consult a psychologist.
It's not a person though. The best thing you could do is get your aunt help with her, from the sounds of it, severe mental health issues.
thank you
I wish my headmates would be as accepting of persecutors as you guys are, when our host found out I wanted to unalive he assumed I must be a bad person for some reason. Makes no sense especially because he used to be a persecutor of sorts