Love that groove. Winger is now way more progressive and very heavy and all members are more known for their talent and songwriting skills. The 80s was the 80s. As for the dancing and posing. It sold records.
You guys look past the dancing, moves, etc but that's part of the draw. And that's 1988. People back then did not have a problem with it because the listeners were in their teens, too. All relative to the era and age at the time you lived it. Nobody had a problem with lyrics. We are too touchy on subjects these days, that's why you two step lightly on a gem of a tune.
I saw Winger in concert back in the day. My daughter and my niece won a contest for designing the best banner with art from one of their album covers. They got front row tickets and back stage passes. They also got several pictures with the band, which we still have. The guys were very nice to them , however they were invited on their bus which they did not do luckily , since my daughter was 13 and my niece was 17. We enjoyed the concert . They sounded great live. I agree that Reb was a fantastic guitar player. The other band playing with them was MR. Big who I was not familiar with, but I really thought they were good too. I know Kip Winger is still doing music, but it is much different now, he seems to have evolved since then.
Times were different back then, I'm not codoning it but there were a lot of songs back then about 17 year old girls, Ringo Starr even wrote a song about a 16 year old and no one batted an eye. Also, these guys knew that 16 and 17 year old girls bought the most records, I'm 62 now and I remember being that age and spending at least half of my babysitting money on music...lol. BTW, I went to see Kiss, Slaughter and Winger in 1990 just to get a close up of Kip Winger.
Semi-new to your channel, there's a very early song by ZZ Top called Francene (just 13)..(also anpther illegal taboo that's taken for granted is the that when marijuana still wasn't legal at either a federal or state level, it has been dropped and praised in pop music going back to the 1930's.) Ok, back to the song. Music-wise this holds up rather well for trend cliche. Two other 80s hair/glam metal pop-centric tunes that hold up rather well are "Midnite Maniac" by Krokus and "Shake Me" by Cinderella. If you haven't already dived into those, you'll both hopefully enjoy them.
Reb Beach is sometimes excluded or forgotten for a second when listing great rock players, but he's never underrated. It's always like, "Oh yeah Reb Beach, awesome."
Born in 1980, a lot of these bands were unfamiliar to me but as an avid listener and I guess fanatic, I listened to all these albums by all these bands. Winger was pretty talented. Lost amongst the crappy hair bands, they have a lot of good songs. Vocally, he's very good. The band is super talented.
"Reb" is an abbreviation of his full name, Robert Earl Beach. Some more facts: Kip Winger and rhythm guitarist/keyboardist Paul Taylor were members of Alice Cooper's band prior to forming Winger. Drummer Rod Morgenstein was, and still is, the drummer for the jazz-fusion group, Dixie Dregs, featuring guitarist Steve Morse, who has been in Deep Purple since '94. Reb was a session guitarist prior to Winger, playing on albums by Chaka Khan, The Bee Gees, and Twisted Sister.
I always believed they all had real talent, and Kip's voice was second to none, without auto-tune. One of their songs that they wrote a few years ago, "better days coming" was used last year for a covid video, that people all around the world loved. and Reb Beach played for whitesnake too.
Winger is the most underrated band of all time . What a lot of people don't know is Kip Winger , Reb Beach & the drummer all played for Alice Cooper . They did at least 2 albums with Cooper & you have to be musically inclined to play with Cooper . He don't let just anyone play with him & Reb Beach also played for Dokken .
The 80s were a MUCH different time. It was no big deal back then for a 17 year old girl to be with an older guy. In the 80s I was 17 dating a 25 year old. Keep in mind at 17 I had already graduated high school, worked 2 jobs, had my own apartment and paid all my own bills. Seventeen in the 80s is probably equal (maturity wise) to 30 in 2023. 😂
We used to play this at school dances. No one batted an eye. I think teens had to grow up a lot faster back then, as compared to today, and 17 then wasn't really equivalent to 17 these days. It certainly hits different now.... but no one cared back then. A girl in my grade 11 high school class had a 31 yr old fiancee... and that was the only situation that I thought as 'kind of weird' back then.
I got to see Winger when they were on tour with Bullet Boys and Cinderella, around 1988-89, and my sister's boyfriend got us backstage passes to meet Winger. My sister met Kip, who wanted to give her a hug, but she declined as he was all sweaty after their set, lol, but I got to talk with him for a bit, and he signed my backstage pass. Yeah, he was quite attractive, hehe, but he was cool.
Agree. Reb Beach is one of those guys that doesn't get the love he deserved. At the time, the content didn't really phase me, because I was probably 17 or 18 at the time this came out. Now, its sort of cringy.
Kip and Reb, they played with Alice Cooper before they created the band "Winger". And another band who Reb keep on colaborating with, amon others, is Whitesnake.
I wonder what Prince thought of Kip Winger? I mean Kip is basically doing Prince stuff, but it didn’t fly with a lot rock/metal peeps. I thought and still think it’s genius. This video is well shot. The lyrics are simple, but it’s got such a catchy groove, and the guitar playing is phenomenal by Reb Beach.
I guess with a name like Reb you'd want to spend time getting good at something to draw attention to something other than your weird name ..no offence but it's just an odd name I wonder if it's short for something
you know all the sexy stuff said is actually said by the girl not him. its says she said I am only 17 aint seen love and aint seen nothing like me..... So he is not actually saying it.
Ihr kritisiert einen über 30 Jahre alten Song aus der Hair Band Ära und habt beide null Ahnung. Dann nicht in der Lage das Riff annährend korrekt zu spielen. Verdammt was maßt ihr euch an?!
Have you heard a little band from Liverpool...called the Beatles...saying called " I saw her standing there"....lyrics go " she was just seventeen...you know what I mean"....get over yourself.
you need to read about Benny Mardones and what is behind the song, it is as far as being pedo, Eddie Money talks about it and long so not writing it all down here.
Kip probably wrote it when he was 19 ....and I also dated girls in their 20s when I was 17....my mom was worried but I had more experience than some of the 20+ year olds I was dating....
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Love that groove. Winger is now way more progressive and very heavy and all members are more known for their talent and songwriting skills. The 80s was the 80s. As for the dancing and posing. It sold records.
This music is 1000x better than grunge and all the 90s emo crap i had to endure. Winger was fn rockin
Reb beach has always been such an incredible player . Speed and melody like no other what a gem
If I looked that any of those dudes, I'd pose all day!
Start to finish, one of the best. Where do you find musicians this day and age that could carry Winger's jock strap?
You guys look past the dancing, moves, etc but that's part of the draw. And that's 1988. People back then did not have a problem with it because the listeners were in their teens, too. All relative to the era and age at the time you lived it. Nobody had a problem with lyrics. We are too touchy on subjects these days, that's why you two step lightly on a gem of a tune.
I saw Winger in concert back in the day. My daughter and my niece won a contest for designing the best banner with art from one of their album covers. They got front row tickets and back stage passes. They also got several pictures with the band, which we still have. The guys were very nice to them , however they were invited on their bus which they did not do luckily , since my daughter was 13 and my niece was 17. We enjoyed the concert . They sounded great live. I agree that Reb was a fantastic guitar player. The other band playing with them was MR. Big who I was not familiar with, but I really thought they were good too. I know Kip Winger is still doing music, but it is much different now, he seems to have evolved since then.
Hopefully he’s not inviting 13-year-olds on his tour bus anymore
The band as a whole still sound and write great. Check out Winger's last 3 albums, guarantee you won't be disappointed
Times were different back then, I'm not codoning it but there were a lot of songs back then about 17 year old girls, Ringo Starr even wrote a song about a 16 year old and no one batted an eye. Also, these guys knew that 16 and 17 year old girls bought the most records, I'm 62 now and I remember being that age and spending at least half of my babysitting money on music...lol. BTW, I went to see Kiss, Slaughter and Winger in 1990 just to get a close up of Kip Winger.
He definitely attracted the girls to the concerts.
They were all happy pedos
I saw that tour, too but not for the same reason (lol)
Semi-new to your channel, there's a very early song by ZZ Top called Francene (just 13)..(also anpther illegal taboo that's taken for granted is the that when marijuana still wasn't legal at either a federal or state level, it has been dropped and praised in pop music going back to the 1930's.) Ok, back to the song. Music-wise this holds up rather well for trend cliche. Two other 80s hair/glam metal pop-centric tunes that hold up rather well are "Midnite Maniac" by Krokus and "Shake Me" by Cinderella. If you haven't already dived into those, you'll both hopefully enjoy them.
Reb Beach is sometimes excluded or forgotten for a second when listing great rock players, but he's never underrated. It's always like, "Oh yeah Reb Beach, awesome."
Lol
I was 18 or 19 when this came out. Definitely catchy tune and ya. Highly underrated guitarist
She's only 17, but based on the lyrics, she's been around.
Reb Beach went on to play one album with Dokken, Night Ranger, and Whitesnake…to name a few.
Born in 1980, a lot of these bands were unfamiliar to me but as an avid listener and I guess fanatic, I listened to all these albums by all these bands. Winger was pretty talented. Lost amongst the crappy hair bands, they have a lot of good songs. Vocally, he's very good. The band is super talented.
Why is everybody reacting to 17. There are tons of great songs by this band that people will be listening to when B'n'B will be long forgotten.
Are they? I didn’t know anyone was reacting to Winger.
@@GetSidewaysReacts Madalaine rocks!!
Believe it or not, age of consent is under 18 for the majority of states in the US. Most states are 16 or 17.
Which is quite sick.
"Reb" is an abbreviation of his full name, Robert Earl Beach.
Some more facts: Kip Winger and rhythm guitarist/keyboardist Paul Taylor were members of Alice Cooper's band prior to forming Winger. Drummer Rod Morgenstein was, and still is, the drummer for the jazz-fusion group, Dixie Dregs, featuring guitarist Steve Morse, who has been in Deep Purple since '94. Reb was a session guitarist prior to Winger, playing on albums by Chaka Khan, The Bee Gees, and Twisted Sister.
I've only seen more women at a show two other times. The place was packed. And Kip Winger is great.
I always believed they all had real talent, and Kip's voice was second to none, without auto-tune. One of their songs that they wrote a few years ago, "better days coming" was used last year for a covid video, that people all around the world loved. and Reb Beach played for whitesnake too.
Still plays for Whitesnake
Winger is the most underrated band of all time . What a lot of people don't know is Kip Winger , Reb Beach & the drummer all played for Alice Cooper . They did at least 2 albums with Cooper & you have to be musically inclined to play with Cooper . He don't let just anyone play with him & Reb Beach also played for Dokken .
A little known fact Kip Winger was Alice Coopers bassist up until he went on his own.
The 80s were a MUCH different time. It was no big deal back then for a 17 year old girl to be with an older guy. In the 80s I was 17 dating a 25 year old. Keep in mind at 17 I had already graduated high school, worked 2 jobs, had my own apartment and paid all my own bills. Seventeen in the 80s is probably equal (maturity wise) to 30 in 2023. 😂
I was a 17 year old guy dating 21 year old women...right around this time....
We used to play this at school dances. No one batted an eye. I think teens had to grow up a lot faster back then, as compared to today, and 17 then wasn't really equivalent to 17 these days. It certainly hits different now.... but no one cared back then. A girl in my grade 11 high school class had a 31 yr old fiancee... and that was the only situation that I thought as 'kind of weird' back then.
We called it hard rock
I got to see Winger when they were on tour with Bullet Boys and Cinderella, around 1988-89, and my sister's boyfriend got us backstage passes to meet Winger. My sister met Kip, who wanted to give her a hug, but she declined as he was all sweaty after their set, lol, but I got to talk with him for a bit, and he signed my backstage pass. Yeah, he was quite attractive, hehe, but he was cool.
Agree. Reb Beach is one of those guys that doesn't get the love he deserved. At the time, the content didn't really phase me, because I was probably 17 or 18 at the time this came out. Now, its sort of cringy.
Kip and Reb, they played with Alice Cooper before they created the band "Winger". And another band who Reb keep on colaborating with, amon others, is Whitesnake.
I wonder what Prince thought of Kip Winger? I mean Kip is basically doing Prince stuff, but it didn’t fly with a lot rock/metal peeps. I thought and still think it’s genius. This video is well shot. The lyrics are simple, but it’s got such a catchy groove, and the guitar playing is phenomenal by Reb Beach.
These haters probably couldn't get a 17 y.o. even when THEY were 17, so WTH do they know?? Plus, the age of consent is often
Beavis and butthead, was going to use the band Nelson, record label said no
This song fucking rules
Please listen to "Push", their album from 1993. A true hidden gem lost in the early 90's. One of the best hard rock albums out there...
Reb Freakn Beach!!
Not sure why the song has so much stigma…anyone remember the age of the guy in Joan Jett’s song?
These songs were written for the audience listening not to be taken as an older man listening to this song lol. People get all weird about it.
For a complete 180, chech out the song "Tin Soldier."
This proves boomers were cooler than you(me).....
I guess they would be boomers wouldn’t they. I am early in the gen x generation and they’re older than me.
ugh,,, Sorry that's your pasty trip thru memory lane..... Reb has played for Dokken. Ever heard of them?
Yes
I guess with a name like Reb you'd want to spend time getting good at something to draw attention to something other than your weird name ..no offence but it's just an odd name I wonder if it's short for something
His actual name is Richard Beach i think
Kip winger still 🥵. Great looking man still! ❤ joke back in the day was, She’s only 17 and he’s about 35 🤦🏼♀️ 😂😂. Kind of perverted this song .
noone noticed how uncomfortable this young man is?
Hehehe!!!
Dude! The 80s were filled with trashy songs like this. Even worse have him listen to "All in the name of...." by Motley Crue.
🤘🏻🤘🏻
you know all the sexy stuff said is actually said by the girl not him. its says she said I am only 17 aint seen love and aint seen nothing like me..... So he is not actually saying it.
Try 89
Stewart
You can see the guitar players was inspired by Eddie Van Halen watch his solo totally Eddie. ✌out
Ihr kritisiert einen über 30 Jahre alten Song aus der Hair Band Ära und habt beide null Ahnung. Dann nicht in der Lage das Riff annährend korrekt zu spielen. Verdammt was maßt ihr euch an?!
“She’s my mountain….
She’s my soul”? 😂 oh yeah, she’s only 17. That’s creeping into R Kelly territory😂
Have you heard a little band from Liverpool...called the Beatles...saying called " I saw her standing there"....lyrics go " she was just seventeen...you know what I mean"....get over yourself.
@@dantonliam they have that creeper look to them. Especially Lennon.
Official daddy issues song..
This song and Benny Mardones' song "Into the night" are played at pedo parties.
you need to read about Benny Mardones and what is behind the song, it is as far as being pedo, Eddie Money talks about it and long so not writing it all down here.
Nah, sucker is another man. You can dress a monkey up that still doesn't change that it's a monkey.
And the Beatles..." I saw her standing there" ....douche...I was 18 when this song hit so I'm a pedi for dating 17 year olds when I was 18? Gtfo.
Kip you goin to jail. Say hi to Fleece Johnson
Pretty sure this was on Epstein's Spotify playlist
Kip probably wrote it when he was 19 ....and I also dated girls in their 20s when I was 17....my mom was worried but I had more experience than some of the 20+ year olds I was dating....
Get past it guys....change your perspective...I was 18 when it came out....so I was dating 16 and 17 year olds....