Reduced enemy buff nodes to only 2 now. Un fight removed. New handicap effects rotation as you've seen in this video it's the red tide explosion. New bosses. Removed the need to sacrifice characters to be used as battery. Battery and mining bots system removed. Not required to clear Norman ASAP for best daily yield now.
RIP Un. I was hoping one day Kuro would actually care about them but now i know it's never gonna happen anymore. Welp, im still gonna cope with Pulao in Physical stage.
So for the new Ice Qu frame, is the BIG rank to get just SS? Cause I looked at the Gray Ravens site, and it seems like her SS3 and SSS are mainly just damage multipliers that don't seem to change up the gameplay rotation anywhere near as much as ones like Hyperreal and Balter's SS3 or SSS ranks. Qu Shukra's SS seems like the highest rank passive that actually gives energy to smoothen her damage rotation. Everything else above is just bigger damage.
I remember saying those genre(?) Of frames was a mistake. Looks like its aging well 🤣. The first time it was introduced, it feels like they don't really know what to do with them and after years they still don't know what to to with them, should have removed it early.
I Hope PGR understand that they can't just Drop Uns like Honkai did for Augments, cause unlike Augments that just overlayed a New play style on an Old Valk, Uns have a completely unique Player style to S and A Rank Omns which is why way more players aren't happy
@@cakegood Yah, Twilight Paladin is still relevant to this Day but augments weren't unique in terms of Gameplay, for Instance Delta could have been Released as a New Rozaliya suit since she doesn't Synergies with Liliya but they didn't probably because Her Gameplay wasn't anything Special, Hell people are more interested in the augment Skins than their Gameplay these days
@@cakegood Forgot to Add this but Augments also aren't restricted like Uns, like I pointed out Twilight Paladin is still relevant even in the Meta upto now and Herrscher of Rebirth makes Her even better to use Together with Delta(for those that want to Cope or just like Delta lol), But in the case of Uns they are Heavily Restricted. They receive Damage reductions if you Add Omns to the Team, almost All Stages recommend Omns and they are only really effective against enemies with execution bars, so if Uns were discontinued more than Half of them would effectively become completely Useless and even for the ones that are strong enough players would be playing them with Half their skills that were Expensive to upgrade Sealed, its way worse than the Augments situation
This really make me appreciate the old frames cuz they're not so underwhelming. And unlike others. You can actually feel an actual fight when fighting mobs. Like alpha vs mobs. Idk it just give a good charms their fighting style isn't over the top but also are not so under. Maybe it's just me. Oh by the way i still see dodging as needed since rex actually make qu run away from that boss. So that's good,
Ngl, i kinda miss old PGR, where dodging and planing your moves correctly was key, compared to the current PGR where is about spamming Core Passives while being invulnerable half the time. Imo A-Ranks and Amplifiers are the only fun future frames, since they are not so overly designed to be meta damage dealers.
@@utensilscleaner7071 yeah yeah, and in PPC you have to defeat bosses as fast as possible, and in Warzone you have to defeat enemies as fast as possible, and in Guild you have to defeat bosses as fast as possible, so is not about Norman. I feel like the only mode where speed is not that relevant is Babel Tower.
4 years of powercreep will do that to you. Even babel, which is not timed heavily incentivises using meta on every fight, so the new invul-spam units. At least combat events exist, sometimes...
F2P btw: look how easy norman now. boss made of paper. This looks like it's starting to be honkai now. Characters: SSS+, Perfect Resonance, Signature weapon max resonance.
First off honkai is 999% more broken than pgr and honkai boss armor lasts longer than the pgr ones. And have u seen how fast the wz bosses get obliterated. They don't even last 0.1 second
Yay, just make uns fall into obscurity even more now.... Sad day to be a roland enjoyer. Otherwise I really like the new norman. Finally some new bosses, no longer crusty old starfall gabriel
Reducing the number of stages is eh but removing the Un Fights is rather disappointing.... But the only good thing that did happen is the new bosses. They have a selection of bosses, so I wish they would've done that way before.
Gee, good thing the new frames are built around only I-frames, cores and sigs, and not real gameplay anymore. Otherwise, I'd actually need to be able to see what the FUCK is going on.
Reduced enemy buff nodes to only 2 now.
Un fight removed.
New handicap effects rotation as you've seen in this video it's the red tide explosion.
New bosses.
Removed the need to sacrifice characters to be used as battery.
Battery and mining bots system removed. Not required to clear Norman ASAP for best daily yield now.
Basically it's harder and less fun
NOOOO NOT THE UNIFRAMES
RIP Un. I was hoping one day Kuro would actually care about them but now i know it's never gonna happen anymore.
Welp, im still gonna cope with Pulao in Physical stage.
So for the new Ice Qu frame, is the BIG rank to get just SS? Cause I looked at the Gray Ravens site, and it seems like her SS3 and SSS are mainly just damage multipliers that don't seem to change up the gameplay rotation anywhere near as much as ones like Hyperreal and Balter's SS3 or SSS ranks. Qu Shukra's SS seems like the highest rank passive that actually gives energy to smoothen her damage rotation. Everything else above is just bigger damage.
I remember saying those genre(?) Of frames was a mistake. Looks like its aging well 🤣. The first time it was introduced, it feels like they don't really know what to do with them and after years they still don't know what to to with them, should have removed it early.
When Lee QTE's next to Watanabe ult at 6:30 it's super satisfying! So fitting and cool. The monkes shooting together.
I Hope PGR understand that they can't just Drop Uns like Honkai did for Augments, cause unlike Augments that just overlayed a New play style on an Old Valk, Uns have a completely unique Player style to S and A Rank Omns which is why way more players aren't happy
Aug valks do have new gameplay tho and even was good in meta during their time
@@cakegood Yah, Twilight Paladin is still relevant to this Day but augments weren't unique in terms of Gameplay, for Instance Delta could have been Released as a New Rozaliya suit since she doesn't Synergies with Liliya but they didn't probably because Her Gameplay wasn't anything Special, Hell people are more interested in the augment Skins than their Gameplay these days
@@cakegood Forgot to Add this but Augments also aren't restricted like Uns, like I pointed out Twilight Paladin is still relevant even in the Meta upto now and Herrscher of Rebirth makes Her even better to use Together with Delta(for those that want to Cope or just like Delta lol), But in the case of Uns they are Heavily Restricted.
They receive Damage reductions if you Add Omns to the Team, almost All Stages recommend Omns and they are only really effective against enemies with execution bars, so if Uns were discontinued more than Half of them would effectively become completely Useless and even for the ones that are strong enough players would be playing them with Half their skills that were Expensive to upgrade Sealed, its way worse than the Augments situation
Ngl most fights seem like a cutscene simulator
This really make me appreciate the old frames cuz they're not so underwhelming. And unlike others. You can actually feel an actual fight when fighting mobs. Like alpha vs mobs.
Idk it just give a good charms their fighting style isn't over the top but also are not so under. Maybe it's just me. Oh by the way i still see dodging as needed since rex actually make qu run away from that boss. So that's good,
Ngl, i kinda miss old PGR, where dodging and planing your moves correctly was key, compared to the current PGR where is about spamming Core Passives while being invulnerable half the time.
Imo A-Ranks and Amplifiers are the only fun future frames, since they are not so overly designed to be meta damage dealers.
U do realize that this is norman and u have to beat it before the timer runs out, no?
@@utensilscleaner7071 yeah yeah, and in PPC you have to defeat bosses as fast as possible, and in Warzone you have to defeat enemies as fast as possible, and in Guild you have to defeat bosses as fast as possible, so is not about Norman. I feel like the only mode where speed is not that relevant is Babel Tower.
blame those sss* characters of rexlent lol
4 years of powercreep will do that to you. Even babel, which is not timed heavily incentivises using meta on every fight, so the new invul-spam units. At least combat events exist, sometimes...
timer isn't that relevant in stronghold as well
Why remove un fight? Where else would i ever use these units then??
Story stages, events, op uns, in school,
I think they are cooking something new for un
@@Aiva765 the cope is real huh
@@Vadikus2424Teddy is litteraly a Un
We are litteraly coping harder for new A Fire Tank and Support alongside Chang Yu/Sophia Leap
@@RenoKyrieWhere did you hear that Teddy is a un?
F2P btw: look how easy norman now. boss made of paper. This looks like it's starting to be honkai now.
Characters: SSS+, Perfect Resonance, Signature weapon max resonance.
at least it's not hp sponge bosses that do nothing but running around all over the place...
First off honkai is 999% more broken than pgr and honkai boss armor lasts longer than the pgr ones. And have u seen how fast the wz bosses get obliterated. They don't even last 0.1 second
@@Enterprise4Lifebabel version of pgr bosses☠️
@@MisonoMika69machi-chan in empyrea patch babel 💀💀☠️
It's Ex-6 for newer gen characters, doable but maldy for f2p
Bro what do we use Un for now
Considering this is with S+ teams...looks like it'll be a real struggle for lower ranks
Yay, just make uns fall into obscurity even more now....
Sad day to be a roland enjoyer.
Otherwise I really like the new norman. Finally some new bosses, no longer crusty old starfall gabriel
Theres still Teddy patch
Shes apparently a new Un
@@RenoKyriereally?
@@moonlight-vk6ggYeah, during showcase stream
We know Wanshi is next S Rank
We know Luna is soon
And Teddy is apparently a Un specificly
aw man.. out of all the designs this game has to offer uns are my fav but they are doing this now
@@sunghoonkisserAgain dude chill, theres still Teddy patch
No C.O.R.E music in my boss battle? 😅
Thank god
unplayable 😭
Reducing the number of stages is eh but removing the Un Fights is rather disappointing....
But the only good thing that did happen is the new bosses. They have a selection of bosses, so I wish they would've done that way before.
Un enjoyers...
i see watanabe went full edge lord 🤣
Damn... So messy, you can barely see the boss on the screen
@lalalulu4513 haha same , blind my eyes😵💫
All of the budget for combat animation n its too much, n become annoying imo
But the story cg is minimum, its boring to see jpg + text only for dialog
Skill issue
Pathethic 😂
@@MeiThunderYah that will change their minds 🙄
What are the changes😮
Blackcards as rewards is NEW right???
No lol
@@tyHar0wait but i dont have blackcards in my reward page. There r only pet tickets
@@clumzy7777 you can get black card from pioneer
@@clumzy7777 r u on advanced norman or pioneer norman?
@@clumzy7777 pet tickets are cover tactic rewards, check the other tabs
hey what happened to co bot (buddy)?
ded
unfunny joke aside I don't think kuro gave context about how did buddy ended up there, atleast not in S 21's patch
Nice
Do they remove the lightning stage?
There is only 4 boss
Ewery stage have 2 buffs.
Example:
1 Lighting and Physical +30/20%
2 Fire and Dark +30/20%
3 Ice and Dark +30/20%
4 Fire and Physical +20/30%
No lightning?
Omg SSS+ dmg like f2p this so tanky, what about actually as f2p? 😂
Prepare to mald🤣🤣
it gives BC no? ultra skip
It gives bc dude
mommy 4:55
Not funny. She 16
@@yoshitsuneminamoto6096 I forgor to laugh
@@yoshitsuneminamoto6096 it's not like you had humor to begin with and you forgetting not everyone is an adult.
Un full rip?😢
Gee, good thing the new frames are built around only I-frames, cores and sigs, and not real gameplay anymore. Otherwise, I'd actually need to be able to see what the FUCK is going on.