"It's nice to have Fenchurch back. Well, as back as an absentee adventurer can be, when he's... never here". Having played a LOT of Dragon Age before playing Destiny, it's very weird (and quite delightful, honestly) to hear Morrigan be that passive-agressive. :D
No one bats an eye??? Uh hello! The Praxic Order went so far as arresting or straight up gunning down Gambit-made Dredgens. In Message from Aunor V (iirc) she straight up says that half the order wants to arrest the Vanguard and the Drifter and “make them face Praxic Fire” When Aunor and her posse encounter Shin Malphur, she accused him, Shaxx, and the Vanguard of being “dealmakers” that will “get the city killed” all because she couldn’t just accept the fact that the Vanguard prefer keeping an eye on the Drifter. If anything it should be the other way around. Ikora is building a pretty fucking big Vex Gate *right in the Tower* that could easily start spamming Vex through it, and no one gives a shit. The Drifter has us playing with Taken *a safe distance from the Tower* and everyone loses their mind!
He even got a bank full of motes in his room. And the pipes on it aren't connected to anything on the other end. One little shake and all that darkness will flow out.
*vex invade tower* Everyone: IKORA WTF Ikora: well shit Vex: this feeling seems firmilar Crota in afterlife: I so saw this coming I SO SAW THIS COMING I FREAKING SAW IT COMING SERVES YOU GUYS RIGHT!!! Osiris: ..............
I wish I could be on this fireteam, listening to the lore master himself sharing his knowledge and wisdom so casually. What a priviledge those guys have.
You should try and watch the WTF raidnation streams when he joins them for the raiderthons* they open the raids up to watchers to join them, like myself back in year 1 of D2 with the leviathan raid probably my favourite time doing a raid xD
I think I can speak for the entire destiny community, we all would like to have a conversation with byf just to hear him talk about lore we all personally want to know about
@@BretMFNTaylor 4 months late and all but Calus only likes one thing, himself. His entire M.O. is to be the last living thing standing when the universe ends.
I don’t know if anyone else has had this thought, but considering that Vex areas are all part of a massive supercomputer, does that mean that whenever we assault a Vex stronghold or disrupt a Vex project, we are essentially acting as a directed malware/virus attack on a server?
Season of the Dawn, fix the timeline, how we see Osiris themed structures in ViDocs, how we are supposed to meet with Saint 14 at some point and give him the PP. Love how Shadowkeep is bringing things full circle. For a Destiny Lore Nerd Shadowkeep is a godsend.
Byf, I can't thank you enough for the immense amount of content you have been just giving out at such speed. It's amazing. Thank you so much, you and the lore community is the main reason I'm so invested into this game. Thank you so much for bringing forth the story of destiny and putting it in the forefront, detailing everything bit by bit with the upmost delicacy. Thank you for being such an integral part of the destiny community, it's honestly astonishing to see the amount of work that goes into your videos, and the amount of content that is hidden beneath destiny 2 im it's story and lore and everything. Thank you for the content, us your viewers sincerely appreciate it.
Kabir drank an Oracle, started turning into a Vex, and used the last of his light to turn himself into The Aegis, thus putting a wound in the vault letting us kill Atheon.
It's like hes a tour guide in a museum, this is friggin dope. I'd watch more of these, like not even just raids but like any in game location. Lore ride alongs!!!
20:47 For anyone who us having issues understandning this bit, think of it like the Geth from Mass Effect. A geth platform may be a singular unit but it runs on thousands of programs each of which is an individual geth, and the more geth platforms in an area the more they can link their shared intelligence and become smarter and more efficient. The Vex are a biological counterpart to this, each radiolarian microbe acts as a single program, millions to billions of these programs running the Vex frames we see and fight in the wild, with their minds all linked and working in unison. One mind with a million bodies, with larger Vex frames like Hydras and Minotuars capable of higher computational power due to the direct volume of radiolarian "programs" they can contain.
Paul Swiergosz Same here, the Pyramids and the way the Darkness addresses the Guardian is similar to how Sovereign or Harbinger spoke to Commander Shepherd. Salvation through destruction.
You could also have used a real life example. The Portuguese man o' war or man-of-war is a marine hydrozoan often mistaken by a jellyfish but in fact it is a Colonial Organism of the same species, called zooids or polyps. They are all attached to one another that it is impossible for them to survive independently. They work and function as a singular being. It is the closest thing to a Vex in real life.
Not really because the ascendant realms require you to kill to become more powerful that isn’t a thing in the garden, you COULD say that it’s like the dreadnought it the Hellmouth (not as deep as the stills) in that it’s a fortress not their own realm. (I am myself somewhat of a loremaster)
I haven't been able to raid since Crota's End, as basically all of my friends stopped playing after that. Been solo ever since. But watching this was like almost as good as the perfect raid experience. Taking about lore, stopping to admire the environment and skybox, just a general laid-back experience. Thanks Byf.
7:30 The minotaur isn't getting "eaten" by the hydra. If you notice the streams of energy aren't flowing from minotaur to hydra. They are flowing from hydra to minotaur. Like its weaving something into it.
Nah ,Osiris is such a loner that he would just refuse joining the raid ,unless the world is ending or its highly concerning the vex or you want to save your headbutting brother from certain death.
Hey Byf, not sure if you'll catch this comment, but maybe you will...something I noticed about the language being used in the naming of the various loot drops specific to the Garden of Salvation raid... I'm sure you've noticed their inherent religious connotations... sanctified, consecrated, etc... but there is something that really stuck out to me, being from a religious background myself, with the names of some of the loot. Most of the loot is named with religious terminology, and in my opinion, mostly generic religious terminology....except for the bow. The bow makes a huge theological statement(whether intentional or not, I can't be sure.) So, in Christian theology, Christ died for the sins of mankind, redeeming all who choose to follow Him... but that redemption is unearned; it is a gift, freely given. The reason for that is, all of humankind are flawed. "The life of sin is in the blood," as Scripture explains...meaning, all humans are born with an inherently flawed nature, left over from when Adam & Eve ate from the apple in the Garden of Eden. That flaw started in the first humans, and was passed down from generation to generation. That is, until One was born outside of that generational inheritance. Christ was born of a virgin, and since there was no earthly father to pass on the genetic code for blood type(modern genetics tells us you receive your blood type from your father's side) that means Christ did not inherit a fallen nature from Adam & Eve's genetics. So Christ was flawless and without sin, yet died for the sins of mankind. This is what sets Christianity apart from the other Abrahamic religions: Grace. You can't earn your salvation. You have to accept that it was a gift. But, in the loot for the Garden of Salvation raid, the raid bow is named, "Accrued Redemption." I'm not sure if they intended to make such a huge statement, but they certainly did so, at least in theological terms... Anyway, I thought it was interesting. Love your vids, brother! Keep up the good work! :)
Then there are weapons like Apostate which I think a religious word itself when you look it up. Edit: nvm it is just leaving a religious or political belief or principal
11:07 if you think about it, the bray facility on Mars is the “birth place” of some tech, but that doesn’t mean that’s where it started. Maybe the black garden is just where the “vex” (as we know them) where first built, but not where they first came into being.
I just want, when Ikora fires that thing up, that either Saint-14 come out of it, or be the first we see when we go in, and he assist us in taking down the Undying Mind once and for all!
Love coming back to these lore videos years later after seeing the story evolve and our knowledge of the Destiny Universe expand. Really enjoyed the explanation of the perfect paradox lore and Byf's explanation of "we eventually have to give it to Saint" with Season of Dawn right around the corner. Kind of a shot in the dark, but its been awhile since I've seen base Divinity (always have an ornament on), doesnt the central golden piece of Divinity kind of look like the Lubre's ruin glave?
I hope in the inevitable fight against the darkness we get all the guardians back like in infinity war, like the ones we never see and only hear from in lore
a random warlock In the vex lore book added in Shadowkeep (can’t remember its name) it details Praydeth’s attempts to escape, and I think he may have at least partially succeeded
I was playing destiny and watching this felt so cool knowing these things in the game. Keep up the amazing work you make some of the best videos out there.
"Birthplace of the vex" could mean the beginning of what the vex are today, i.e. like how the hive began on fundament, but were original a completely different race.
First video I see of this kind of yours (raid and lore). Fantastic. I´m not a raid guy and watching this video relaxed on my bed is great. Kind of a podcast, a conversation about lore rather than a script is also a lot of fun.
I have a working theory that a far more subtle influence of our power beyond throwing grenades and nova bombs. Is that we influence reality so that there's always a way for us to "win" it may not be easy and we can fail but there's always a path.
No lie, I think this is a better raid guide than others. The lore conversation is engaging and seeing the mechanics in action without too much overblown explanation and people just doing what they've already done quite a few times over makes everything simpler to grasp. Wish more lfg folk could take the time to just see this and not wipe over and over again on, say, everywhere.
I love how these guys are like hardcore badasses in Destiny, getting world first clears, and even they react to Byf's knowledge with reverence. Like when Alexander the great respected great philosophers
"Planet with the moon" - @ 1 hour 9 minutes and 30 seconds is definitely the Earth, the moon, and you can see the traveler sitting on top of the earth.
@John Goblikon is my spirit animal because unlike with you some people dont need a psychical reason to do stuff eh had nothing to gain from this exept from chilling with some people and having some fun spreading knowledge
John Goblikon is my spirit animal because I like T1. I never said Byf needed exposure. If anything Byf is giving T1 exposure. You sound like an asshat that nobody gives a fuck about
just a sidenote... when eris says after you complete the toland quest “how are they able to commune with the darkness without a worm?” she must be referring to the vex imo.
This is a realisation I had when you were talking about Cayde's memory and he was fighting a "figure with no face and just eyes" but maybe Cayde saw and perhaps fought the Witnessn during the collapse.
He also did a video with evanf that basically predicted us seeing variks, eramis, and mithrax and going to Europa and the cosmodrome before the beyond light announcement. Mans a time traveler
33:25 During one of the Nessus adventures Failsafe gets captured by the vex, after rescuing her she notes that she will share her findings with the vanguard. Did this 'imprisonment' of hers, which lasted for like a decade(?), teach us anything we didn't know prior?
I don't know if anyone else has noticed this or if this is important lore wise, I really hope it actually is, but the vex structures have always been about 3-D geometric shapes (prisms, cylinders, spheres, cubes), and the boss room is first time in the history of the game we have seen that change. They still have the normal geometric shapes but most of them are twisted and warped. On the right of the screen at 1:14:08 is the best example but its all over that boss area.
Thanks byf for another great video. I really enjoy your videos but these long explanations whilst having gameplay with a great fireteam I find are the best. With a few jokes of course. I was wondering, will you cover the next raid that is supposed to take place in the scarlet keep? I cannot remember the name of of the top of my head.
The light and dark tether at the end makes sense because the boss is gathering a ton of dark or light energy to kill the guardian and creating the tether diffuses the power into the mote banks and disrupts the destruction and weakens the boss for damage phase.
Catching up on lore here and I can't help but notice that the Divinity not only has similar materials to the pyramids, but also seems to have the shape of Labrea's Ruin in its core.
Hearing Byf talk about the religious impulses of the Sol Divisive made me think of Legion in Mass Effect 2 when its talking about the heretics vs the true geth.
ARRGGHH!!! I would love to have a conversation with you byf, the lore in this game is immense and i know quite a bit but, all my friends that play destiny arent lore nerds like me. Whenever i talk to them about it i think i fry their brains. This would be a great expierance, but nonethless, keep up the good work Byf!
When we lost our light during the red war we could not resurrect. When we go into the story missions of SK ghost says that something is blocking or interfering with his light. Now out in the world we find areas where we cannot respawn, high danger areas, where the darkness holds sway. Makes me want to rethink every place where Respawning is restricted and think about how the darkness has been shutting down our light from the beginning. Well played bungie, making even respawn mechanics have meaning.
So, towards the beginning a member of the fire team asks if the black garden is the home planet of the vex and you say something to the effect of the wording being vague and the lore referring to it as the Vex’s birthplace. A lot of religions see an an event such as baptism as a sort of rebirth spirituality. Is it possible that since the Sol Divisive worship the Darkness that they view the Black Garden, the location where they found it, as a baptism of sorts? Hence the “Birthplace” diction?
At 42:00 they start talking about the real issue between Guardians and the Vex. Because the Vex think they can't beat the Darkness, but their goal is to be the sole survivor and intertwine with existence, then obviously they need someone else to beat the Darkness for them. And they need that force to also be something they can defeat, or is annihilated in the final battle with the Darkness.The Light would be a strong contender for that job. I think the Vex will ultimately want to guide us into a final battle on equal footing with the Darkness and either have a way to backstab us or they will calculate a perfect parity of Light and Dark so we fully destroy each other.
Okay, speculation time. What if the three stars in the sky of the black garden are the same star. The same star seen from three different positions in space. If the garden is set a drift through space and time, is it possible to for the surroundings to be a combination of all the different perspectives seen from all the different places it lies in? Just an idea.
Byf: Did I forget a whole phase of Angelics? Angelic, who just appeared: Hi! Sorry I’m late, got caught up in worship again. May I help you? Gigz: *proceeds to destroy Angelic with grenade launcher*
Also something I noticed in the beginning of the second encounter next to the first pillar there are two puddles of water, one of them moving forward in time and the other backwards, with the second one having rain drops slowly float out of it
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Everytime byf says "Needless to say" my mind auto completes with "I sent the whole shipment back to Fenchurch"
I have been doing this for a long time also hahahaha
*literally falls out of chair laughing
Got me uncontrollably giggle 😁
god tier comment right there
"It's nice to have Fenchurch back. Well, as back as an absentee adventurer can be, when he's... never here". Having played a LOT of Dragon Age before playing Destiny, it's very weird (and quite delightful, honestly) to hear Morrigan be that passive-agressive. :D
Anyone: "So is there lore for this?"
Byf: *Inhales deeply in Loremaster*
This man’s house must be a mythical library inside of a giant oak tree
Yo love the pfp my guy 😂
Byf: *talks about lore and is in general very awesome and well spoken*
Also Byf: The Big s u c c
TBG YEET
T H I C C
Vanguard
Grow
t h i c c
From
Strength
@@kokopelli434 Dummy T H I C C
'Screw the rest of the universe, we gon fight'
“Is saint 14 actually dead”
Bungie: Hold my beer
The drifter has items to instantly summon taken in the tower no one bats an eye
Ikora makes a vex portal in the tower and everyone loses their minds
But drifter just wants us to get paid, who knows what ikora wants
No one bats an eye??? Uh hello! The Praxic Order went so far as arresting or straight up gunning down Gambit-made Dredgens. In Message from Aunor V (iirc) she straight up says that half the order wants to arrest the Vanguard and the Drifter and “make them face Praxic Fire” When Aunor and her posse encounter Shin Malphur, she accused him, Shaxx, and the Vanguard of being “dealmakers” that will “get the city killed” all because she couldn’t just accept the fact that the Vanguard prefer keeping an eye on the Drifter.
If anything it should be the other way around. Ikora is building a pretty fucking big Vex Gate *right in the Tower* that could easily start spamming Vex through it, and no one gives a shit.
The Drifter has us playing with Taken *a safe distance from the Tower* and everyone loses their mind!
He even got a bank full of motes in his room. And the pipes on it aren't connected to anything on the other end. One little shake and all that darkness will flow out.
*vex invade tower*
Everyone: IKORA WTF
Ikora: well shit
Vex: this feeling seems firmilar
Crota in afterlife: I so saw this coming I SO SAW THIS COMING I FREAKING SAW IT COMING SERVES YOU GUYS RIGHT!!!
Osiris: ..............
You shouldn't have anything to summon any enemy in the tower...
I wish I could be on this fireteam, listening to the lore master himself sharing his knowledge and wisdom so casually. What a priviledge those guys have.
You should try and watch the WTF raidnation streams when he joins them for the raiderthons* they open the raids up to watchers to join them, like myself back in year 1 of D2 with the leviathan raid probably my favourite time doing a raid xD
@John Goblikon is my spirit animal who are hurt you
@John Goblikon is my spirit animal yeah he right....who hurt you
@John Goblikon is my spirit animal man you just keyboard warrior all over the damn place dont ya
I think I can speak for the entire destiny community, we all would like to have a conversation with byf just to hear him talk about lore we all personally want to know about
this feels like a warlock mentor taking some students on a field trip
Omg it is or the new speaker (byf) guiding new guardians on the history of everything
That’s what it is
Lol i know right
Asher of our Time
“The Cabal aren’t a threat”
All the destroyed suns and planets: -_-
Isn't that only the red legion I mean there are cabal like calus and they don't hate you he actually likes the Guardians
he grew t h i c c
Still nothing on the universal scale
@@BretMFNTaylor 4 months late and all but Calus only likes one thing, himself. His entire M.O. is to be the last living thing standing when the universe ends.
destorying a planet is a major task but when it has no defenses you can take as long as possible its just helpless
I don’t know if anyone else has had this thought, but considering that Vex areas are all part of a massive supercomputer, does that mean that whenever we assault a Vex stronghold or disrupt a Vex project, we are essentially acting as a directed malware/virus attack on a server?
The Guardian-class DDoS
A reboot of Reboot is confirmed.
Or we are barely scratching the bigger idea
We are the chain email.
No we are magnets or mt dew
This video is basically a tour through a museum featuring professor Byf
Behind everything is a story
Season of the Dawn, fix the timeline, how we see Osiris themed structures in ViDocs, how we are supposed to meet with Saint 14 at some point and give him the PP. Love how Shadowkeep is bringing things full circle. For a Destiny Lore Nerd Shadowkeep is a godsend.
We’re giving saint our PP?
Nice.
Shit u right
@@nostop7794 I'm literally crying from laughing at this 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Giving Saint-14 the PP aged perfectly considering his and Osiris' situation.
Byf, I can't thank you enough for the immense amount of content you have been just giving out at such speed. It's amazing. Thank you so much, you and the lore community is the main reason I'm so invested into this game. Thank you so much for bringing forth the story of destiny and putting it in the forefront, detailing everything bit by bit with the upmost delicacy. Thank you for being such an integral part of the destiny community, it's honestly astonishing to see the amount of work that goes into your videos, and the amount of content that is hidden beneath destiny 2 im it's story and lore and everything. Thank you for the content, us your viewers sincerely appreciate it.
As a fellow viewer I submit my appreciation also Lord Byf.
Kabir drank an Oracle, started turning into a Vex, and used the last of his light to turn himself into The Aegis, thus putting a wound in the vault letting us kill Atheon.
He drank the forbidden milk
Kabr go brrrr
It's like hes a tour guide in a museum, this is friggin dope. I'd watch more of these, like not even just raids but like any in game location. Lore ride alongs!!!
20:47
For anyone who us having issues understandning this bit, think of it like the Geth from Mass Effect. A geth platform may be a singular unit but it runs on thousands of programs each of which is an individual geth, and the more geth platforms in an area the more they can link their shared intelligence and become smarter and more efficient.
The Vex are a biological counterpart to this, each radiolarian microbe acts as a single program, millions to billions of these programs running the Vex frames we see and fight in the wild, with their minds all linked and working in unison. One mind with a million bodies, with larger Vex frames like Hydras and Minotuars capable of higher computational power due to the direct volume of radiolarian "programs" they can contain.
Mass Effect immediately came to mind while running the Shadowkeep story missions
@@paulswiergosz9836 Oh? Please elaborate.
Paul Swiergosz Same here, the Pyramids and the way the Darkness addresses the Guardian is similar to how Sovereign or Harbinger spoke to Commander Shepherd. Salvation through destruction.
You could also have used a real life example. The Portuguese man o' war or man-of-war is a marine hydrozoan often mistaken by a jellyfish but in fact it is a Colonial Organism of the same species, called zooids or polyps.
They are all attached to one another that it is impossible for them to survive independently. They work and function as a singular being. It is the closest thing to a Vex in real life.
@@Nero_PR I suppose.
Though both the fictional races being mechanical to some degree and their shared hive mind deal made it just kinda click for me.
I just realized this, okay okay:
*The Black Garden is a Vex sword space.*
You mean Ascended Realm?
A throne world?
A scabbard?
Not really because the ascendant realms require you to kill to become more powerful that isn’t a thing in the garden, you COULD say that it’s like the dreadnought it the Hellmouth (not as deep as the stills) in that it’s a fortress not their own realm. (I am myself somewhat of a loremaster)
I haven't been able to raid since Crota's End, as basically all of my friends stopped playing after that. Been solo ever since. But watching this was like almost as good as the perfect raid experience. Taking about lore, stopping to admire the environment and skybox, just a general laid-back experience. Thanks Byf.
7:30 The minotaur isn't getting "eaten" by the hydra. If you notice the streams of energy aren't flowing from minotaur to hydra. They are flowing from hydra to minotaur. Like its weaving something into it.
Creating it?
Me: The only warlock I need in my raid fire team is Byf
Toland: Am I a joke to you?
Pretty sure Toland is just Byf's other account
Osiris: bruh
Nah ,Osiris is such a loner that he would just refuse joining the raid ,unless the world is ending or its highly concerning the vex or you want to save your headbutting brother from certain death.
Hey Byf, not sure if you'll catch this comment, but maybe you will...something I noticed about the language being used in the naming of the various loot drops specific to the Garden of Salvation raid... I'm sure you've noticed their inherent religious connotations... sanctified, consecrated, etc... but there is something that really stuck out to me, being from a religious background myself, with the names of some of the loot. Most of the loot is named with religious terminology, and in my opinion, mostly generic religious terminology....except for the bow. The bow makes a huge theological statement(whether intentional or not, I can't be sure.) So, in Christian theology, Christ died for the sins of mankind, redeeming all who choose to follow Him... but that redemption is unearned; it is a gift, freely given. The reason for that is, all of humankind are flawed. "The life of sin is in the blood," as Scripture explains...meaning, all humans are born with an inherently flawed nature, left over from when Adam & Eve ate from the apple in the Garden of Eden. That flaw started in the first humans, and was passed down from generation to generation. That is, until One was born outside of that generational inheritance. Christ was born of a virgin, and since there was no earthly father to pass on the genetic code for blood type(modern genetics tells us you receive your blood type from your father's side) that means Christ did not inherit a fallen nature from Adam & Eve's genetics. So Christ was flawless and without sin, yet died for the sins of mankind. This is what sets Christianity apart from the other Abrahamic religions: Grace. You can't earn your salvation. You have to accept that it was a gift. But, in the loot for the Garden of Salvation raid, the raid bow is named, "Accrued Redemption." I'm not sure if they intended to make such a huge statement, but they certainly did so, at least in theological terms...
Anyway, I thought it was interesting. Love your vids, brother! Keep up the good work! :)
Garret Burrow u are spot on
@@bspoon2529 thanks, man 😁👉👉
Like they are building up their redemption themselves rather than gift. Also good work sharing. It takes courage.
Then there are weapons like Apostate which I think a religious word itself when you look it up.
Edit: nvm it is just leaving a religious or political belief or principal
my entirety of this raid is as follows :
"Shoot outer eyes"
*fireteam member shoots inner eyes*
😑
@John Goblikon is my spirit animal nope your mom has that covered
@@carsonkouts Dude this John guy is salty all over the comments, idk what his problem is but roast it with all you got
@@Masterducky29 This is what happens when we allow the keyboard warrior population to grow out of control lol
@@carsonkouts yup gotta cull the neckbeards
Or on builder a person dies while platform is forming
Yo I might have to switch sides if the darkness is that dummy thicc
11:07 if you think about it, the bray facility on Mars is the “birth place” of some tech, but that doesn’t mean that’s where it started. Maybe the black garden is just where the “vex” (as we know them) where first built, but not where they first came into being.
i love that coming back to this and byf is theorizing about saint 14 right before we got him
I just want, when Ikora fires that thing up, that either Saint-14 come out of it, or be the first we see when we go in, and he assist us in taking down the Undying Mind once and for all!
"I've been looking forward to this"
Matthew Williams walking dead much
@@holyknightamax4833 Nah Revenge of the Sith
@@holyknightamax4833 that's a pretty generic saying tbh lol
"My powers have doubled since the last time we met count."
I like ur pfp
Love coming back to these lore videos years later after seeing the story evolve and our knowledge of the Destiny Universe expand. Really enjoyed the explanation of the perfect paradox lore and Byf's explanation of "we eventually have to give it to Saint" with Season of Dawn right around the corner.
Kind of a shot in the dark, but its been awhile since I've seen base Divinity (always have an ornament on), doesnt the central golden piece of Divinity kind of look like the Lubre's ruin glave?
I hope in the inevitable fight against the darkness we get all the guardians back like in infinity war, like the ones we never see and only hear from in lore
Blaszy i think is leading to that... i think efrideet is coming back too
Mah boy praydeth better be alive or I'm gonna start punching some vex minds
a random warlock In the vex lore book added in Shadowkeep (can’t remember its name) it details Praydeth’s attempts to escape, and I think he may have at least partially succeeded
@@filwilliamson9149 yeah it's hinted that he escaped with the scientists that entered the vex simulation systems trough the black garden
a random warlock I really hoped Praydeth escaped. He’s always been an interesting character and I would love to see him in game.
Only been 10 seconds since upload and Im already here for my lore fix!
In case anyone didn’t know, winnover basically means the one who separates the wheat from the chaff.
Am I the only one who sees smiley faces on the Love and Death grenades?
Watching this now, before Beyond light, you can answer so many cuestions. I love this games lore
I love when they gather around Byf as he uses his lovely lorebook emote
I bet playing with this dude is the coolest story time ever. Really interesting bits in all of the Destiny lore videos. Definitely a fan!
I was playing destiny and watching this felt so cool knowing these things in the game. Keep up the amazing work you make some of the best videos out there.
4:07 "Needless to say..." ...i sent the whole shipment back
XD dead 😂😂😂😂💀💀💀💀
41:42 That minotaur said nah
"Birthplace of the vex" could mean the beginning of what the vex are today, i.e. like how the hive began on fundament, but were original a completely different race.
Byf your voice is as smooth as equinox
First video I see of this kind of yours (raid and lore). Fantastic. I´m not a raid guy and watching this video relaxed on my bed is great. Kind of a podcast, a conversation about lore rather than a script is also a lot of fun.
Every raid party needs a Byf!
perfectly edited, great content, interesting lore. Awesome video, Byf’s long ass videos never disappoint at 3am when I cannot sleep.
hey byf im loving this kind of content! A lot of people are into your channel not just for the lore, but also that you are just a really nice guy
Loving all the new content Byf!
Always happy to see another lore vid. Thanks alot Byf
i feel it’s important to mention this is a LAKE OF RADIOLARIA like Ashir Mir mentions in the Pyramidion
So he entered the Pyramidion and ended up in the Black Garden?
Felicity Malika I’m not saying that’s what happened, but anything is possible when talking about the Vex
The lake of radiolaria was in that very strike.. last boss phase.
erdelf that’s a different strike though
@@matts2170 what is a different strike?
Asher says that when you reach the pit.. and when you jump down the pit, there's the lake.
Byf's warlock is the warlock I want to play, but I don't have the time to play destiny with my schedule, so I just live vicariously through him haha
You should do more “raid alongs” like this, it’s a great way to do a “direct injection” of the raid lore
This is amazing. I need this for every raid. Learned so much. Phenomenal work Byf!
My favourite vid since the start of shadowkeep. Byf is the boss
I have a working theory that a far more subtle influence of our power beyond throwing grenades and nova bombs. Is that we influence reality so that there's always a way for us to "win" it may not be easy and we can fail but there's always a path.
No lie, I think this is a better raid guide than others. The lore conversation is engaging and seeing the mechanics in action without too much overblown explanation and people just doing what they've already done quite a few times over makes everything simpler to grasp. Wish more lfg folk could take the time to just see this and not wipe over and over again on, say, everywhere.
I love how these guys are like hardcore badasses in Destiny, getting world first clears, and even they react to Byf's knowledge with reverence. Like when Alexander the great respected great philosophers
Whats that ship in the front? looks so cool
Think it's the one ya get as part of season of the forge, tied to that do X weapon frames triumph.
It is indeed the one from Season 5 for forging 100 frames. It is no longer available as the forges have been put into the DCV.
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Only 10 minutes in and already loving this kind of video. Hope you do more of these for the future raids
The cabal had some help in blinding Rasputin. That's how they snuck up on the city. Isn't that mentioned somewhere in Ecdysis?
Nishant Sharma the cabal had help from the nine that’s in the lore
"Planet with the moon" - @ 1 hour 9 minutes and 30 seconds is definitely the Earth, the moon, and you can see the traveler sitting on top of the earth.
Earlier in time possibly
Love that you did this with T1
@John Goblikon is my spirit animal because unlike with you some people dont need a psychical reason to do stuff eh had nothing to gain from this exept from chilling with some people and having some fun spreading knowledge
John Goblikon is my spirit animal because I like T1. I never said Byf needed exposure. If anything Byf is giving T1 exposure. You sound like an asshat that nobody gives a fuck about
I like how some of you guys stepped back from the pile of stones when Byf let you know that this was a grave.
just a sidenote... when eris says after you complete the toland quest “how are they able to commune with the darkness without a worm?” she must be referring to the vex imo.
This is a realisation I had when you were talking about Cayde's memory and he was fighting a "figure with no face and just eyes" but maybe Cayde saw and perhaps fought the Witnessn during the collapse.
"we don't need pluto, we can blow it up"
How dare. That little ball of ice should be RESPECTED.
- brought to you by the planet pluto gand
That was epic, Byf. You’re totally a warlock. Love the vids!
Love watching your vids the way you play and explain the lore of destiny at the same time its awsome keep up the awsome work you do
The saint-14 part is really amazingly accurate seeing as this was before season of dawn
He also did a video with evanf that basically predicted us seeing variks, eramis, and mithrax and going to Europa and the cosmodrome before the beyond light announcement. Mans a time traveler
BallerHorn with the PERFECT emote for the grave...
Yessssssss let’s gooooo. You’re the best Byf, love your lore videos
33:25
During one of the Nessus adventures Failsafe gets captured by the vex, after rescuing her she notes that she will share her findings with the vanguard. Did this 'imprisonment' of hers, which lasted for like a decade(?), teach us anything we didn't know prior?
I love the PA-like, tinny noise. It adds a cool, vintage feel to the lore
These are are just amazing rides to be on thanks to everyone in this. D1 raided all the time not done one of these:( need to start
I would love to have these episodes as a podcast to listen on the road!
I don't know if anyone else has noticed this or if this is important lore wise, I really hope it actually is, but the vex structures have always been about 3-D geometric shapes (prisms, cylinders, spheres, cubes), and the boss room is first time in the history of the game we have seen that change. They still have the normal geometric shapes but most of them are twisted and warped. On the right of the screen at 1:14:08 is the best example but its all over that boss area.
Thanks byf for another great video. I really enjoy your videos but these long explanations whilst having gameplay with a great fireteam I find are the best. With a few jokes of course. I was wondering, will you cover the next raid that is supposed to take place in the scarlet keep? I cannot remember the name of of the top of my head.
I really like the Darkness Architecture, it reminds me of HR Gigers designs from the Alien films.
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RUclips police yes very similar
26:58 BRB, pulling Perfect Paradox out of Collections.
that moment when i think i finally understand lore or just something a bit complicated. Byf is over here talking about about time and space.
I wanna do something like this except for the soundtrack of raids. I think that could be sick
The light and dark tether at the end makes sense because the boss is gathering a ton of dark or light energy to kill the guardian and creating the tether diffuses the power into the mote banks and disrupts the destruction and weakens the boss for damage phase.
"I could listen to you all DAY" in game ref.
Bad mission
10:50 in 2016 researchers found the HD 131399Ab planet which is within a system of 3 stars.
Catching up on lore here and I can't help but notice that the Divinity not only has similar materials to the pyramids, but also seems to have the shape of Labrea's Ruin in its core.
20:10 we did get to see saint once more, hell we even have him back hosting trials
Thank you for taking the time to teach us about the forbidden milk
Hearing Byf talk about the religious impulses of the Sol Divisive made me think of Legion in Mass Effect 2 when its talking about the heretics vs the true geth.
Byf literally spoiled Season of Dawn xD
I loved how you explained the lore as you went along. I would love it if someone just explained lore to me while I played. Super cool. 😊
Bfy on fire with the daily videos oh man what a week
Ha byf must just be sitting there wanting to correct his teammate when he says “Io guy” but is polite, and then to “Osiris”.
ARRGGHH!!! I would love to have a conversation with you byf, the lore in this game is immense and i know quite a bit but, all my friends that play destiny arent lore nerds like me. Whenever i talk to them about it i think i fry their brains. This would be a great expierance, but nonethless, keep up the good work Byf!
When we lost our light during the red war we could not resurrect. When we go into the story missions of SK ghost says that something is blocking or interfering with his light. Now out in the world we find areas where we cannot respawn, high danger areas, where the darkness holds sway. Makes me want to rethink every place where Respawning is restricted and think about how the darkness has been shutting down our light from the beginning. Well played bungie, making even respawn mechanics have meaning.
So, towards the beginning a member of the fire team asks if the black garden is the home planet of the vex and you say something to the effect of the wording being vague and the lore referring to it as the Vex’s birthplace. A lot of religions see an an event such as baptism as a sort of rebirth spirituality. Is it possible that since the Sol Divisive worship the Darkness that they view the Black Garden, the location where they found it, as a baptism of sorts? Hence the “Birthplace” diction?
I like this so much more because Byf explains things in lamens terms for us casuals lol
At 42:00 they start talking about the real issue between Guardians and the Vex. Because the Vex think they can't beat the Darkness, but their goal is to be the sole survivor and intertwine with existence, then obviously they need someone else to beat the Darkness for them. And they need that force to also be something they can defeat, or is annihilated in the final battle with the Darkness.The Light would be a strong contender for that job. I think the Vex will ultimately want to guide us into a final battle on equal footing with the Darkness and either have a way to backstab us or they will calculate a perfect parity of Light and Dark so we fully destroy each other.
Listening to this while doing math 👌
same!
Okay, speculation time. What if the three stars in the sky of the black garden are the same star. The same star seen from three different positions in space. If the garden is set a drift through space and time, is it possible to for the surroundings to be a combination of all the different perspectives seen from all the different places it lies in? Just an idea.
Byf: Did I forget a whole phase of Angelics?
Angelic, who just appeared: Hi! Sorry I’m late, got caught up in worship again. May I help you?
Gigz: *proceeds to destroy Angelic with grenade launcher*
The Vex frames are like the gigantic bionicle titan-dudes .there are many small life forms working to power and repair/create these Robotic Frames.
Also something I noticed in the beginning of the second encounter next to the first pillar there are two puddles of water, one of them moving forward in time and the other backwards, with the second one having rain drops slowly float out of it
Also the vex portals in the raid have combined aspects from precursor, descendant and modern vex
7:35 why did I laugh so hard, *my humor is fucked*
well we're now in the time when saint is sitting in the tower feeding pigeons (should have been cayde)