So buying a brand new vehicle is more “sustainable” than repairing the one you already have? Seriously, just about the biggest pile of horse s**t I ever heard…
Yes your right, so why? Because it's got nothing to do with saving the planet, it's all about control. Ulez, 15 min city's, loss of free speech, The great reset, you will own nothing and be happy. Classics cars will be next. They dont want us traveling at all. Forget electric cars they dont want you in a car at all. They want control of all energy they dont want you using any hydrocarbons. Check out the insanity that is Net Zero.
I live in France, and was concerned when I saw this proposed legislation but then I realised the bike enthusiasts will just go underground. The real problem will be the price of petrol. After 2035 they will just ramp it up everywhere until you can't afford to ride.
@@guymerreywether6875 I am rebuilding my old Yamaha SR to E85 (higher compression and "the sealings for the valves" Don't know the English word for them).
As refineries close down due to lack of demand, the cost of petrol and diesel will rocket anyway. Petrol stations will also close and we'll be buying fuel in bottles from a pharmacy.
They will just price fuel and fine you no doubt it's nonsense I know but some lizard basher has had a brain wave thinks they are gunna save the planet instead they will piss off the planet.
It's funny how suddenly cars and bikes over 15 years old are considered classic...unless of course you need to tax or insure them and suddenly it's 40 years.
It's funny how you make a goofy post. Pay attention: He said MCs over 15 years old, then added vintage/classics. So, tell us, are vintage and classics over 15 years old? So, if the law/s pass, he is right. He is right even if they don't pass, because again vintage/classics are over 15 years old. EDIT After all the posts, so far, I guess I should have used a lot of emojis. 😛
@@MundiTaurus unless you need to tax or insure them and they're not considered classics...go ahead try and get your VED to zero on a 15 year old bike. Try getting classic bike insurance on a 15 year old bike. You'll fail on both counts...that was my point. I'm not entirely sure what yours was.
This sounds strange to me so i googled a litte, this is false. There is a rumor going around that states this but it is not true. "The European Union has no plans to ban the repair of cars over 15 years old. The Council of Europe’s draft law makes no mention of a ban on car repairs or of “cars more than 15 years old”. The draft law aims to make the vehicle life cycle more sustainable and to clarify the requirements for the production and disposal of cars. Contrary to what is claimed, one of the aims of the draft is to facilitate the repair and re-use of cars."
Yeah, but reading long articles about something is boring. Just pick up first headline and go with it. All this bullshit about EU banning older cars is old news and like you said, fake.
The EU, WEF, WHO are doing everything to break down everything that we have with measures they invent .... All of a sudden cars are fouling, but no word about batteries .... No word about where the energy comes from to charge the batteries .... Windmills and solar panels are not the solution as they require lost of land space and are energy/economically not attractive. Nuclear is a very good solution, but the elite were behind the Fukushima disaster which was not an accident but an act of terrorism. Too many people don't know that the percentage of CO2 in air is 0.035% or 350 ppm. That is very, very, very little. Air consists of 20% oxygen and 80% nitrogen, so forget about CO2. The reason that the CO2 percentage is so low and remains so low is because plants extract CO2 from the air for their growth. And under the influence of sunlight, plants break down the CO2 into C (carbon) and O2 (oxygen). The C keeps the plant itself for its growth and the O2 is returned to the atmosphere. The competition among plants is so great that they fight each other to the death to remove the CO2 from the air. No CO2, no plants.... and no people. If people emit more CO2 by burning fossil fuels, more CO2 will be released into the air and plants will grow faster and convert the extra CO2 again... and that's it. No greenhouse effect and no temperature increase. The whole climate story is a big, big lie. Citizens worldwide are being lied to and our governments are either participating in the lies of the elite or are really too stupid to understand what game is being played here by the elite!!!!
How exactly? Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum are cut from the same cloth. The voting public are not capable of making real difference. The last referendum was just a testicle kicking duel and look at the aftermath…
Sadly, the general population will support it strongly. That's because they can point their finger at someone else being "bad", while they aren't. Everyone who has an electric car will be unaffected and will look at old cars & bikes being the problem.
Luckily for us in the EU, this ban was never actually proposed and the EU even specifically exempts classic vehicles from some regulations to promote repairing them instead of trashing them
Thanks for raising this issue. Fortunately this is not true. The EU is NOT set to ban classic vehicles. The EU has set some goals to reduce CO2 emissions. In the context of repairing old vehicles, they do not plan to ban such things (in fact they don't have to power to do so). Their goal is to make sure that when old vehicles are repaired, it is done properly. Also, that if a vehicle is actually irreparable, that its components are disposed of responsibly. The EU's goal here is not to tell us what we can and cannot do. But to ensure that when we do what we decide to do, that we do it well. It is laudable that you raise these concerns for discussion. But in this case we have nothing to worry about.
Frankly, I think you are wrong. It IS about emissions, they want to ban fossil fuel vehicles, and this is where they start by stealth... if you trust any politicians these days, you need your head examined...
find that end comment hard to swallow!!! eu still trying to tell us how to run our country and we don't belong now. (well, a lot of our grovelling mp's seem to like brussels unelected beaurocrats giving us orders.
@@paulharris719 , “You can’t believe everything you hear.” “A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes.” It wasn’t all that difficult to check the facts of this matter.
What manufacturers will have to do will be to force buyers into buying electric by pushing up the cost of new petrol cars. That will have the effect of artificially making EVs look like good value. Don't blame the manufacturers: the government will force them to do this, not directly, but by fining them for every petrol car they sell
Brilliant point gio , partitions signed to not buy Electric vehicles , which pollute more to make , and when batteries dead are through away ? , where do you put old batteries ?- will need more power stations 🚉, to power electric vehicles , there will be more pollution in long run. So if you’ve inherited an E. type Jag of a great Uncle or what ever .. it’s end of life scrap.?
It will be very soon because there won't be anything else to buy not even a classic .they want us in to EV s so they can control. Where we go and what we say .the in built computer see to that 😱
I live in Germany and have not heard of this ban. The only online references that mention this I can find all stem from between 2010 and 2015, which would mean the ban will shortly take place! Are you being alarmist or can you please post the link that leads to the actual EU proposed legislation?
Maintaining and using your existing vehicle, regardless of its age, is the most environmentally friendly thing you can do. Whether you go electric or fossil fuel, the majority of damage is done during the manufacturing process, whether you judge it by mining damage, emissions, etc.
Exactly. They have added remote kill switches / geofencing and other sinister technology to new vehicles and they need to remove old ones in order to force the new ones on us
My transporter van is 16 years old. The bodywork is like new. Pretty much indestructible. A new engine is £8000 plus VAT. VW probably make it for about £2000. A new ABS valve is £2500. If the governments really cared about the environment they would be encouraging us to look after our old vehicles and use them for decades. The manufacturers want new vehicle turn over every few years which generates the most revenue for the greedy shareholders and governments. The environment is the last thing on their minds. The only way to have profits in the western worlds is create as much environmental damage as possible.
your vehicle is inherently polluting. All vehicles are inherently pollluting in terms of their manufacture. In the next 75 years, we need to stop people having private transport altogether. there will be a case for work related vehicles, but the idea that we have a tonne or more of persoal pollution is, in a world of 9 billion people, unacceptable. There are buses, trains and ships we can use otherwise. EVs are a step to NoVs because the planet can't stand that much pollution. Sorry, but there we are. Your van, as itpumps out pollution, is part of the problem, no matter it's age
If you think India is going stop 1 1/2 billion people cooking on wood fired stoves, and install electric and gas lines to them you are delusional. Sunak gave them a billion in aid to support the space programe and their nuclear bombs.
In my country, the USA, we have more mil equipment in mothballs than we have new equipment, but our pathetic gov just keeps wasting our money buying more and more new equipment for their illegal wars! Especially on Ukraine, sending them billions and billions of our tax dollars that we will _never_ see again!
@@stewartellinson8846 Sorry to burst your misinformed bubble, but you need to actually research so-called EVs from start to finish. They are a farce! So is solar power on a wide scale. Windmills? Even they cause environmental damage from start to finish, but they are the best option.
This is misinformation: The vehicle has to be total loss AND lost its registration because of that. Then you don't get a new registration for your bike. Before your bike is deemed unrepairable and lost its registration, you are also unrepairable (aka dead). This regulation is to stop people from building an entire new vehicle and use a registration from a wreck. AND vehicles with historic value are exempt of this rule.
They already are. Trying to stop cars being repaired. Older cars involved in accident will be written off. Garages will report that car is not viable for repair. It's supposed to be for the environment!
you clearly don’t understand how urban infrastructure works. Perhaps not in Europe, but through much of the rest of the world cities have been transformed and they’re planning by cars. In brief, they don’t work without cars being present because that’s what they were built to support. There is no scenario where personal transportation disappears. Stick to something with a basis in reality and quit with the brainless right wing memes.
RUBBISH! This item seems to be keeping popping up every now and then because it creates an easy talking point, I guess… To be factual; it is (or was), as you rightfully mention, a proposal. Nothing more than that. The proposal talks about getting vehicles of the road that are either technically or economically ’total loss’. From 2035, mind you, not before. To be fair, that’s not a very big problem in my opinion. And of course, as will always be the case in these situations, there will then be plenty of exceptions for historical, ‘special’ vehicles, etc. etc. So, unless you will stubbornly believe the EU will actually grind a halt to an entire industrial sector, which is the vehicle-repair sector and it’s subsidiaries, it is most likely not a very realistic scenario… But thanks anyway for sharing your concerns, while I am also aware that we (the public) must always be vigilant and on the lookout for real problems. Although in this case it’s not really worth the fuss…
If you don’t know by now, that you’re into the Brags-hit, then it doesn’t matter. It won’t change, unless the public and the government gets their pants on the right way and move to build a nation and not keep the soshiety as it is. I’m for EU (a fixed one), but I honestly thought and told a collegue then early: I think this spin-off from the EU can really be a tough, but good chance to rebuild a better strong and leading UK (forward) not degenerate backfarts oriented monkey island, like it’s trying to be (yep, went across last year, it’s a sad island for the most central and south-eastern part, a very sad place, still green though in most places and therefore nice). I can understand the aggressive frustration there, but not the lack of revolt against the government. No Frenchmen would dare to allow that, and even the boring germans would go out.
The WEF don't ride motorcycles. The WEF and EU make electric bikes to replace them. So the EU will accede to the WEF. The WEF and EU have no concern for poor people needing to use their vehicles for as long as possible. Private motor yachts, business jets and International trade shipping Chinese vehicles to Europe, and European vehicles to China, creates vastly more polution. But the WEF and EU leaders refuse to make concessions to reduce pollution. There is no public debate on these issues.
about 60% of our food comes from or through the EU. If the EU fully enforced Article 50 (which the UK requested) the people would be starving (or smuggling it into the country on small boats)
If only the UK had had some way of influencing or vetoing this type of stuf... And I'll bet this type of legislation is sponsored and lobbied for by the vehicle manufacturers, so if you think they won't do it in the UK also, you're deluded.
@@thomaswright7580 you have a food producing friend called Australia. The people of Australia would ensure our allies won’t go hungry. Yes, we also have to topple our communist regime first. Believe me, they most likely won’t make it to the next election. Aussies are waking up in droves!
It's not about sustainability. They want to force you to buy a new vehicle which is always online, spies on you, lets them limit its use to certain times or areas, or shut it down. You'll notice those capabilities are mandated by new legislation for all new vehicles starting soon.
I'm 63 now and will continue to ride my beloved 1994 tuned Fireblade, that I have owned from new, for as long as I am physically able, regardless of any legislation to the contrary!!! Some things are not to be messed with
They also want to do this for cars over 15 years. Can we please get these people out of government? As if the minute number of classic vehicles could have any impact even if you believed the carbon narrative hook line and sinker
no you cant get them out of government, we didnt vote for any of the people running the EU, they just give the position to their buddies when an opening comes up.
@@matejlieskovsky9625 I assume he is talking about the Directive on end-of-life vehicles (the ELV directive) and the 2023 proposal for a new and reviewed ELV directive. A few seconds ago I wrote a detailed comment here with links and all, but it was automatically deleted because it contained a link to a page outside of RUclips. Just search for "elv directive 2023" and you'll find it, but be prepared to download a bunch of pdf files if you want the complete proposal.
@@matejlieskovsky9625 @matejlieskovsky9625 I assume he is talking about the Directive on end-of-life vehicles (the ELV directive) and the 2023 proposal for a new and reviewed ELV directive. A few seconds ago I wrote a detailed comment here with links and all, but it was automatically deleted because it contained a link to a page outside of RUclips. Just search for "elv directive 2023" and you'll find it, but be prepared to download a bunch of pdf files if you want the complete proposal.
You seem to have not actually read the proposed legislation. It is almost as if your source of information was Nigel Farage you are that badly informed. All the legislation will mean is that either a vehicle over 15 years old will be properly maintained and or refurbished or will be scrapped in a proper way. So it is not going to hit the classic market what will stop is people dumping cars and or passing a car off as roadworthy when it is not.
Do you really think these communists will listen to anybody other than themselves. Strange how they wanted the USSR to fall apart, only to form their own.
This is EU legislation that does not affect British bikers. Of course the Labour and Tory parties are hell bent on pushing ,'electric', upon us but having heard Nigel Farage proclaim that the Reform party has no interest in banning ICE then it makes sense to vote Reform, I say this as a lifelong Tory who used to do leaflets, number catching, door to door, etc but the current Tory party is a pale shadow of what it used to be and does not deserve my support, (I never voted Labour).
While Germany continues to mine and burn lignite (very poor quality coal ) in its many coal fired power stations , presumably to power their electric vehicles !
Germany had to do that as criminal Merkel and her co-conspirators closed the nuclear installations after Fukushima was bombed by the Rothschilds what was sold as being caused by a tsunami. The tsunami was made with a nuclear bomb.
Germany who makes electricity from lignite. With massive lignite mines. Other countries wondering how to produce electricity and banning nuclear and power from natural gas. I wonder how they are going to cope to produce enough electricity to power everything. Not all countries want solar or wind farms. Bad for the environment. At least we will all be healthy with all the walking we will be doing. We are hearing more cynicism about climate change and how it is mostly nature causing it and not totally the internal combustion engine. We have been hearing about flooding of land from melting icebergs and the weather heating up since the late 80s and nothing has happened. No flooding. In fact ice is building in Artic waters . We have also had a colder and wetter winter this year than normal. Climate factors to the South come from underwater volcanos circling the Antartic causing displacement of the currents. Something we have no control over. It is about time governments look at this lunacy and the good science that is out there but being ignored.
We know a complete ban for ICEs is a given, it's a question of timeframe and methodology. They can allow you to keep your ICE motor and make it's running so expensive you'll just end up storing it and so not have to outright ban it's use, I don't think how is as important, unless in the back of one's mind the "how" will determine their non-compliance strategy. At the end of the day a marketing campaign implementing scare-tactics will have the public fully against the use of anything that serves to worsen the catastrophic enviromental situation as it will have been presented to them. Right now we're being told that the Russians will attack Europe in 3-5 years, down the line you'll be told a lot of things that don't make sense and do not hold up to scrutinee but the general public cannot withstand state propaganda. I say enjoy what you have, this one's inevitable, the transition will hurt but once it's been implemented it will no longer matter to the world what once was.
Actually it's neo-liberal state and corporate sponsored capitalism on steroids attempting to further increase it's already massive level of centralised control. None of which benefits the 99%, little of which benefits the environment and all of which further enriches the parasite class...just saying
@@henrybird2716At last, someone with some _real_ knowledge. Everything in this video is false. Untrue. Just click bait to get right-wing, knee-jerk, buffoons to click and like.
@@henrybird2716 We will adopt any law they create in order to keep a market presence on the continent. If we produce any goods that do not meet their regulations they will not be allowed to be sold in the EU. If we struck a deal with any partner they didn't approve of it would lead to dire consequences. Hotel California scenario. You can check out any time you like, but you can never leave.
Most enthusiastic people involved in historic vehicles will keep these vehicles going regardless, if they cant do the repairs themselves, there is always a friend available to lend a hand.
I do all my own maintenance and if anything goes wrong I repair the bike myself. How the hell would they know if I repaired a gearbox or engine? The only way I'd think it could be done was by closing down or licencing spare parts or suppliers in some way. Not all that concerned, governments are slowly coming to realize that implementing draconian policies in the name of the planet aren't feasible if the population won't accept it
@@neilg4208 Thanks missed that, so all suppliers of parts for older bikes and vehicles will have their business' curtailed in what they can supply, not to mention breakers etc: Good luck with that. It'll never happen. Good Grief what are these people smoking!!!
This isn't a law to stop you fixing a vehicle, or using spare parts, in fact one aim of the proposal is to increase the amount of parts that can be removed from scrap vehicles and used to repair other vehicles. The concerning parts are the definition of End of Life vehicle and tougher regulations on what happens once a vehicle is considered to be only worth scrapping. Also the proposal exempts historical vehicles, generally those over 30 years old,
I honestly don't see it happening. I've just come back from the Stafford Classic bike show. Walking around the Bonham's auction there are some bikes expected to fetch £240,000. There's a massive industry here involved in the renovation of vintage bikes. No UK government will implement such legislation. Last I heard we had left the EU??? It's more likely that petrol will be hiked in price to such an extent that folks won't be able to run their classic or vintage vehicle.
It shows the ignorance of the people who propose this legislation. Running an older vehicle had only a fraction of the environmental impact that comes from manufacturing a new vehicle.
Your title is misleading. The EU will ban NEW motorcycles with a combustion motor starting in 2035 (and that will most likely apply to cars too). If you still have one with a combustion engine from before that date you can use it as long as it still passes inspection (where the standards of the year it was build apply, not the standards of 2035). Just as you still can drive a car from 1910 with no turn indicators.
It's never been about emitions. It's about the tax generated by the manufacture and sale of new vehicles. It's about changing the public mindset from personal transport being the norm, and turning the idea of owning your own vehicle into a luxury. It's about controlling where and when people can travel. It's about making the public reliant on services provided by government, so if we step out of line, we can have our access to these services restricted. The government wants the ability to make us all reliant on them for everything, so they can make the repercussions of standing up against them so devastating to our way of life that we'd all be too afraid to step out of line. As a potential example of what I mean. If you complain publicly on line about the government, and mention that you're going to a protest march on a certain day, the government could stop you doing this by putting restrictions on you using your central bank digital currency to pay for travel. They could silence you by putting restrictions on your ability to pay for hone internet access, and crush you by preventing you from paying for transport to do things like get to work, go to the shops, or travel to anywhere within walking distance of a place that they say groups of like minded protesters have been meeting. Making us reliant on them for travel is just one part of their plan to keep us controlled.
You have got that correct. The direction of EU is to become more and more authoritarian and it doesn't seem like it can be stopped. There are just no knobs and levers provided to the people to influence that. Voting has not been able to fix the institutional corruption and protests are ineffective as well.
Correct. The plan is all laid out in Agenda 2030, apparently it's a conspiracy theory although you can download a PDF of it from the UN website. It's a terrifying read, I don't recommend it, there's no going back to sleep afterwards.
They are hoping that they have killed off the skill of fixing vehicles with future generations. It’s a multi pronged attack. Just waiting for them to start banning certain motorsport & motorsport venues.
There is a bit of mis understanding here. The EU has put a sunset clause in on the support for IC vehicles. It is not a ban, rather that after 2050 manufacturers will not have to support with spares and service IC vehicles. The reason for this is that most vehicle changes are gradual with one model evolving into the next. In this case there is a mandated change in fudemental technology. In normal circumstances parts can be made for 20 or 30 years as platforms evolve, but with the change to electric this will not be the case. Therefore the EU is guiding manufacturers on the minimum period to support IC vehicles post 2035 ban on sales. Bear in mind that France, Germany, The Netherlands, Belgium and Italy all have strong classic car and bike scenes with powerful lobbies. A ban would simply not pass.
Thank you Jonathan. The guy who made this video has either totally misunderstood the proposal, is simply parroting some ultra-right online publication, or is simply lying through his teeth for clicks. I suspect all of the above personally.
it's also encouraging recycling. The proposals deal with end of life vehicles and they attempt to ensure that parts are recycled. This would actually increase the supply of second hand parts and would have the completely opposite effect from what the video claims. I think the maker is either stupid or malicious and given that the same lies are being repeated by far right commentators, I rather suspect it's the latter. His "research" has probably been reading a wingnut blog
US, China and Russia make 90% of the CO2. The UK makes 0.04%. Not all the countries in the world will have any effect on stopping Global warming. It's a fact of life! Paying attention to emissions will only improve air quality.
One big question i have is how are the govourment going to enforce the rule of not repairing a "residual" motorbike, how are they going to stop someone repairing their own motorbike in their house garage or in a shed etc, are they going to go round routinely inspecting motorbike owners houses or something? if you take good care of your motorbike, repair it yourself, run regular maintainance and have a stock of parts that you use for the bike, how are they going to stop you?
This is not true. No one talk about this because they don't take away your motorcycle 🤯. If you look at Norway, 1/4 of all cars on the road are EV's. Gas station are closing, and are changing names to energy stations. The problem with motorcycles is that they are so few that in 2050 you probably have had to make your fuel your self for years. Regarding the repare, it's about the factories having to have parts for those vehicles for tens of years.
Carbon Dioxide (Co2)concentration in the atmosphere is 0.04%. If the level drops to 0.02%, It will have the dire consequence of stopping photosynthesis, halting oxygen production, collapsing the food chain. That is a fractional difference of 0.02%, a sliver of a margin. Climate change, previously known as weather, is the biggest con since Britain went decimal.
@@derekgargan5080 Not the concentration itself is the problem, it's how much it changed in a short period of time. Also it's not the planet we have to worry about rather how we survive on it. The planet will be fine.
As you state, you don't normally go into political stuff. Theres a famous quote that resonates - First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out- Because I was not a Socialist. Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out- Because I was not a Trade Unionist. Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out- Because I was not a Jew. Then they came for me-and there was no one left to speak for me. In your particular case, first they came for everything else, now they're coming for classic bikers. Anyone who still votes for the UK's large political parties deserves their fate.
‘They’ won’t have to ‘ban’ classic bikes. It’s already nigh on impossible to find fuel at petrol stations that won’t bugger up your carbs and harden your fuel hoses / seals if you leave it in them for months. Eventually we’d end up having to order fuel in the post that doesn’t contain any nasties. Which is when people who ride classic bikes will give in and just use them as ornaments.
Here in Spain every bike has to be taxed tested and insured, I don´t think people keep non-runners much. So called electric vehicles actually are running on fossil fuel burned in the power station. Britain relies increasingly on imports of food from the other side of the world, brought in ships that use 400 plus tons of fuel every day which now have to navigate Cape Horn. Something doesn´t add up.
Little idea you have about Spain then. Until the new EU legislation it cost over €1000 for a classic motorcycle to be registered as a Vehiculo Histórico. Said vehicle had to be 100% original, matching numbers and all original parts (even tyre sizes). Thanks to the new changes you can now repair your classic vehicles with pattern parts as long as the major components are original (chassis, engine, etc.). This has also reduced the cost of registering aa vehicle as historic. Funny how the _reality_ is totally the reverse of what the guy in the video says - coz either he doesn't understand or is just lying for clicks.
@@lauchlanguddy1004 Generally cheaper. Faster? In what sense? You mean from the starting point of production to being injected into the grid? Electric is great, but suffers from huge density issues. IMHO I think hydrogen, or lately there is talk of ammonia - both, or a mix of both, seem to solve the density issues, but introduce their own little quirks to sort out.
What are you talking about sold to “us” do you not know Brexit has happened and EU legislation does not apply in thenUK where you are based . Why are you concerned about its? It’s like saying Taiwan has proposed a law that I don’t like ! Ridiculous
This is probably the well used trick of attacking one sector initially, then little by little, the next one, then the next and so on. Not all at once, otherwise there would be too much opposition.
I suggest you read the Fit for 55 proposals more closely. No mention of any scrapage schemes at all. It’s all focused on the CO2 reduction targets for cars and vans. Of course bikes will be affected but this also takes into account newer, cleaner engines and the use of biofuels and bio ethanol powered bikes. 55 is a percentage target reduction that will take into account lower emissions from bikes in general.
Meanwhile in the UK, University of Leeds has proposed WWII style rationing be imposed as "a fairer way to fight climate change" 🤣😭 Couldn't make it up 🤷♂️
Well done for making more people aware of this. I do suspect though as the bubble for EVs is bursting, if not under severe pressure, that a lot of these proposals will be thrown out or severly diluted and delayed The fact remains those in government, around the world, but being led by Europe, do not want us humble 'pee ons' having any independence, hobbies, ways of making a bit of cash. I am not against EV engineering as well, but they are not clean. Just research what it takes to get lithium out of the ground and what it takes to dispose of spent batteries. Not to mention. What the extra weight does to our roads! People who push this green option are diluded. Great vid. Well done
@@iandeumayne-jones1557 there's nothing to say really. nothing of what he says is true, the EU is not proposing anything he outlines. it's been dealth with extensively elsewher and he's either stupid or willfully misrepresenting what's happebing for boomer clicks. in a nutshell, the EU is planning to ensure vehicles are properly recycled and not just dumped. The video above is simply nonsense.
I was in the automotive industry since 1972. The more thrifty the person the longer they kept their vehicle on the road. Big government will only win. As they will collect larger tax amounts, & build public transportation to extract money from poorer citizens. It’s all control, & greed. What else could it be? All my vehicles are between 1996, to 2007. All look & run like new. I have zero car or motorcycle payments.
I live in Berlin and enjoyed the ride through the landscape in early spring listening to the nice sound of a Norton machine. My work is 18km away in the center of the city and there is no space for a car or motorbike. I use an electric folding bike wich could be stored under the table. And so I was the only one who was on time when the public transport was on strike. A physican working for the environmental government told me years ago that electric cars are not the solution! In that light we could see the attack of the power supply of tesla by an environmental group weeks ago.
I know about this law in India ..it really doese not make sense as you don't get the rust on vehicles like other country's.... It's gread.... Alot of India vehical can easily last a lifetime..
Net zero won't be possible as they are still allowing container to travel the length of UK on lorries due to the fact they have crippled rail freight by cancelling most of HS2
@@nounoufriend1442 Freight was not going on HS2, but they would still need to spend a fortune on the WCML. 90% of freight goes by road in the UK, so how on earth could you multiply freight carried on rail by a factor 9 or 10. Not possible. Now, if they were to spend the money saved from HS2 on repairing current roads and building new roads, that would produce a massive improvement in jobs and transport, but not without ICE engines.
@@zofiakmicikiewicz2269 For one thing, really, really, really good beef. The UK exports to 160 nations. The top exports include cars, gold, gas turbines, crude petroleum, packaged medicaments, and various other goods. Cars were the most valuable type of commodity exported from the UK in 2023, with exports of this commodity valued at approximately 36.6 billion British pounds. Other top exports include electrical and electronic equipment, and chemicals. 👆👆👆
This is Russia propaganda. Eu don't ban motorcycles. Eu don't permit new cars or motorcycle to be registered without some standards of pollution. But older vehicle can run without problem.
Just a thought, we have to replace big trucks or pay congestion charge for emissions , but it’s ok to sell them and export to places like Africa or dose the climate con not apply there , wake up people
You should have used Cuba as an example. As much as I hate Commie governments and bureaucrats such as Cuba and the EU/UN/WHO/WEF and their associated oligarchs, the Cuban people have proven just how sustainable refurbishing old items really is. 👍
Thanks for sharing this information. As a motorcycle rider. I support your opinion on this subject. People all over the world need to push back against this agenda.
This is just a proposal at present, and from the looks of things, is in it's very early stages with a LOT of discussion and research to be done before such legislation is passed. As classic cars etc are a very popular hobby, even among EU politiicians you can be pretty much rest assured that the actual proposals will specifically exclude classic vehicles. Spreading FUD is unhelpful and in any case, now that the UK is no longer in the EU any legislation passed by the EU is not going to affect the situation in the UK.
I will sell everything I own, I will live on water and bread, before I give up on my cars and motorcycles. No way in hell. This is the hill I will die on
It doesn't affect the UK. It doesn't even affect the EU as its not true - the guy either misunderstands the legislation, is thick, or its clickbait. I suspect all three.
No!
Ban private jets instead.
Then how are Sunak, Cameron and King Charles getting to the climate change conference as each took separate private jets to travel to Cop28
@@nounoufriend1442Walk ! would do em good ....
They'll never be banned.
@@nounoufriend1442 My last comment was removed for some stupid reason .All i suggested was they walk......
The rules are for thee peasant, not for me!
So buying a brand new vehicle is more “sustainable” than repairing the one you already have? Seriously, just about the biggest pile of horse s**t I ever heard…
Exactly. They know that, but don’t care what we think.
Yes your right, so why? Because it's got nothing to do with saving the planet, it's all about control.
Ulez, 15 min city's, loss of free speech, The great reset, you will own nothing and be happy.
Classics cars will be next. They dont want us traveling at all. Forget electric cars they dont want you in a car at all. They want control of all energy they dont want you using any hydrocarbons. Check out the insanity that is Net Zero.
Indeed ,owners who keep old vehicles on the road should be rewarded.
this video is ill informed crap and not true
Austerity and more recession drabness and monochrome monotony. Isis “colours” on everything. The Fast show was propaganda.
The EU won't be around by 2055
I live in France, and was concerned when I saw this proposed legislation but then I realised the bike enthusiasts will just go underground. The real problem will be the price of petrol. After 2035 they will just ramp it up everywhere until you can't afford to ride.
Rebuild the engine so it goes on alcohol. Most engine can take it after swapping some parts.
Yes you are right. I already have the plans for a still to make my own alcohol and not for drinking
@@guymerreywether6875 I am rebuilding my old Yamaha SR to E85 (higher compression and "the sealings for the valves" Don't know the English word for them).
As refineries close down due to lack of demand, the cost of petrol and diesel will rocket anyway. Petrol stations will also close and we'll be buying fuel in bottles from a pharmacy.
Yes alcohol. We can make it local.
I live in Portugal and I can tell you that most of the locals will ignore this. They'll keep riding whatever bike they have...
the fact that it's not true will mean they don't have to ignore it
Well it will still be problems....
Yeah Portugal 😂🎉🎉
Great !
They will just price fuel and fine you no doubt it's nonsense I know but some lizard basher has had a brain wave thinks they are gunna save the planet instead they will piss off the planet.
It's funny how suddenly cars and bikes over 15 years old are considered classic...unless of course you need to tax or insure them and suddenly it's 40 years.
Almost like these WEFfers make up their rules as they go along. Do souls have to obey them? No, only Persons.
@@G-ra-ha-mPeoplekinds 😅
It's funny how you make a goofy post. Pay attention: He said MCs over 15 years old, then added vintage/classics. So, tell us, are vintage and classics over 15 years old? So, if the law/s pass, he is right. He is right even if they don't pass, because again vintage/classics are over 15 years old.
EDIT After all the posts, so far, I guess I should have used a lot of emojis. 😛
@@MundiTaurus unless you need to tax or insure them and they're not considered classics...go ahead try and get your VED to zero on a 15 year old bike. Try getting classic bike insurance on a 15 year old bike. You'll fail on both counts...that was my point. I'm not entirely sure what yours was.
@@MundiTaurus Legislation (pertinent to the corporate 'person', not laws (pertinent to the living man).
This sounds strange to me so i googled a litte, this is false. There is a rumor going around that states this but it is not true.
"The European Union has no plans to ban the repair of cars over 15 years old. The Council of Europe’s draft law makes no mention of a ban on car repairs or of “cars more than 15 years old”. The draft law aims to make the vehicle life cycle more sustainable and to clarify the requirements for the production and disposal of cars. Contrary to what is claimed, one of the aims of the draft is to facilitate the repair and re-use of cars."
Yeah, but reading long articles about something is boring. Just pick up first headline and go with it. All this bullshit about EU banning older cars is old news and like you said, fake.
Hey, don't spoilt all tin hatter's fun! They're bloody frothing at this!
The EU, WEF, WHO are doing everything to break down everything that we have with measures they invent ....
All of a sudden cars are fouling, but no word about batteries .... No word about where the energy comes from to charge the batteries .... Windmills and solar panels are not the solution as they require lost of land space and are energy/economically not attractive. Nuclear is a very good solution, but the elite were behind the Fukushima disaster which was not an accident but an act of terrorism.
Too many people don't know that the percentage of CO2 in air is 0.035% or 350 ppm. That is very, very, very little. Air consists of 20% oxygen and 80% nitrogen, so forget about CO2. The reason that the CO2 percentage is so low and remains so low is because plants extract CO2 from the air for their growth. And under the influence of sunlight, plants break down the CO2 into C (carbon) and O2 (oxygen). The C keeps the plant itself for its growth and the O2 is returned to the atmosphere. The competition among plants is so great that they fight each other to the death to remove the CO2 from the air. No CO2, no plants.... and no people. If people emit more CO2 by burning fossil fuels, more CO2 will be released into the air and plants will grow faster and convert the extra CO2 again... and that's it. No greenhouse effect and no temperature increase. The whole climate story is a big, big lie. Citizens worldwide are being lied to and our governments are either participating in the lies of the elite or are really too stupid to understand what game is being played here by the elite!!!!
This video is about bikes
@@Sovereignfrith The law doesn't mention bikes at all. Go back to Brexit.
My bike was 19 years old when I bought it. I'm not letting go of her now or ever
Bans require compliance.
Do not comply.
You won’t have the choice. They will likely make petrol impossible to obtain.
@@worldofameiso5491 Time to brew your own ethanol/alcohol.
Are you still going to ride an uninsured, untaxed vehicle? Tough choice, eh?
French bikers will not comply and will protest by blocking roads etc, until they win.
@@russcattell955iTheir actions at the Black Rock headquarters need to be repeated. Politicians need a healthy amount of vitamin fear.
These politicians are sick. Citizens better stand up and take their countries back.
Politicians are only carrying out their wef/eu/nwo paymasters orders!
I agree, they totally fucking mad. We need to stand up or we are screwed.
How exactly? Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum are cut from the same cloth. The voting public are not capable of making real difference. The last referendum was just a testicle kicking duel and look at the aftermath…
So vote for Reform, only option. But will people do that? No, just a few so not enough.
@@truxton1000 Reform..... LOL
there are more of us than there are of them, stand up and say no. control is the goal. Just alot of crap,dont fall for it.cheers from USA
Sadly, the general population will support it strongly. That's because they can point their finger at someone else being "bad", while they aren't. Everyone who has an electric car will be unaffected and will look at old cars & bikes being the problem.
Luckily for us in the EU, this ban was never actually proposed and the EU even specifically exempts classic vehicles from some regulations to promote repairing them instead of trashing them
Thanks for raising this issue. Fortunately this is not true. The EU is NOT set to ban classic vehicles.
The EU has set some goals to reduce CO2 emissions. In the context of repairing old vehicles, they do not plan to ban such things (in fact they don't have to power to do so). Their goal is to make sure that when old vehicles are repaired, it is done properly. Also, that if a vehicle is actually irreparable, that its components are disposed of responsibly.
The EU's goal here is not to tell us what we can and cannot do. But to ensure that when we do what we decide to do, that we do it well.
It is laudable that you raise these concerns for discussion. But in this case we have nothing to worry about.
Frankly, I think you are wrong. It IS about emissions, they want to ban fossil fuel vehicles, and this is where they start by stealth... if you trust any politicians these days, you need your head examined...
There is no smoke without fire , perhaps its amusing that you dismiss it we will see.
find that end comment hard to swallow!!! eu still trying to tell us how to run our country and we don't belong now. (well, a lot of our grovelling mp's seem to like brussels unelected beaurocrats giving us orders.
Your faith in our unelected masters is touching, if misguided. When you finally see the walls hurtling toward you don't say nobody ever warned you.
@@paulharris719 ,
“You can’t believe everything you hear.”
“A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes.”
It wasn’t all that difficult to check the facts of this matter.
The EU and its partner and Westminster can tell manufacturers the must sell 21% of electric vehicles but it doesnt mean we have to buy them.
What manufacturers will have to do will be to force buyers into buying electric by pushing up the cost of new petrol cars.
That will have the effect of artificially making EVs look like good value.
Don't blame the manufacturers: the government will force them to do this, not directly, but by fining them for every petrol car they sell
This will only work if the public buy EVs
So don’t buy them
Brilliant point gio , partitions signed to not buy Electric vehicles , which pollute more to make , and when batteries dead are through away ? , where do you put old batteries ?- will need more power stations 🚉, to power electric vehicles , there will be more pollution in long run. So if you’ve inherited an E. type Jag of a great Uncle or what ever .. it’s end of life scrap.?
It will be very soon because there won't be anything else to buy not even a classic .they want us in to EV s so they can control. Where we go and what we say .the in built computer see to that 😱
Then you will own nothing and be happy.
Wow 15 years old for a bike thats still brand new to me.
Me too , I have a 1996 BMW R1100 GS and a 2002 Suzuki van van 200 .
My 1996 YZF750 is the height of modernity to me...
I have 3 Kawasakis. A ZZR1100 D2 from 1996, a Z900A4 from 1976 and a H1F from 1975. The ZZR, nearly 30 years old is distinctly modern to me.
I commute on a 98 vtr 1000, we are doomed
Doesn't look good for my 1957 BSA
I live in Germany and have not heard of this ban. The only online references that mention this I can find all stem from between 2010 and 2015, which would mean the ban will shortly take place!
Are you being alarmist or can you please post the link that leads to the actual EU proposed legislation?
There's no ban. This video is just clickbait rubbish.
File this video under bendy banana fake news
Maintaining and using your existing vehicle, regardless of its age, is the most environmentally friendly thing you can do. Whether you go electric or fossil fuel, the majority of damage is done during the manufacturing process, whether you judge it by mining damage, emissions, etc.
This is disgusting. It's about control not about emissions.
its about political power: not giving money to the arabs
yes especially when you realise that private jets are not subject to the same rules that they impose on our transport
Exactly. They have added remote kill switches / geofencing and other sinister technology to new vehicles and they need to remove old ones in order to force the new ones on us
It’s scaremongering. I guess he’s heard something on GB News or in the Express and is treating it as gospel. What a prat.
@@davidmatthews3093 I suppose you're a Socialist??
My transporter van is 16 years old. The bodywork is like new. Pretty much indestructible.
A new engine is £8000 plus VAT. VW probably make it for about £2000.
A new ABS valve is £2500.
If the governments really cared about the environment they would be encouraging us to look after our old vehicles and use them for decades.
The manufacturers want new vehicle turn over every few years which generates the most revenue for the greedy shareholders and governments.
The environment is the last thing on their minds.
The only way to have profits in the western worlds is create as much environmental damage as possible.
It's ALL about power and CONTROL !!!
your vehicle is inherently polluting. All vehicles are inherently pollluting in terms of their manufacture. In the next 75 years, we need to stop people having private transport altogether. there will be a case for work related vehicles, but the idea that we have a tonne or more of persoal pollution is, in a world of 9 billion people, unacceptable. There are buses, trains and ships we can use otherwise. EVs are a step to NoVs because the planet can't stand that much pollution.
Sorry, but there we are. Your van, as itpumps out pollution, is part of the problem, no matter it's age
If you think India is going stop 1 1/2 billion people cooking on wood fired stoves, and install electric and gas lines to them you are delusional.
Sunak gave them a billion in aid to support the space programe and their nuclear bombs.
In my country, the USA, we have more mil equipment in mothballs than we have new equipment, but our pathetic gov just keeps wasting our money buying more and more new equipment for their illegal wars! Especially on Ukraine, sending them billions and billions of our tax dollars that we will _never_ see again!
@@stewartellinson8846 Sorry to burst your misinformed bubble, but you need to actually research so-called EVs from start to finish. They are a farce! So is solar power on a wide scale. Windmills? Even they cause environmental damage from start to finish, but they are the best option.
They can’t stop you repairing your own bike or car in your own garage, and getting help from a ‘friend’.
they are trying look into right to repair, its been going on for years, fix your own tesla? you get your charging rights removed..
@@aeroflopper😂 "ecology"
They can when they've got digital id.
This is misinformation:
The vehicle has to be total loss AND lost its registration because of that. Then you don't get a new registration for your bike.
Before your bike is deemed unrepairable and lost its registration, you are also unrepairable (aka dead).
This regulation is to stop people from building an entire new vehicle and use a registration from a wreck.
AND vehicles with historic value are exempt of this rule.
@@buddy1155 it's cool then
If this ban was put into place, who would know what work had been done to which vehicle.
Politicians are a few steps behind.
Bikes first then they're coming for our cars. It's so obvious they don't want us having private transport.
Climate lockdowns
@@steve00alt7024 May WHO Treaty!!!!!
@@annedonnellan6876 chemtrails
They already are. Trying to stop cars being repaired. Older cars involved in accident will be written off. Garages will report that car is not viable for repair. It's supposed to be for the environment!
This is why the roads are becoming impassable through lack of repair, or closed for no apparent reason.
This isn't to make people buy new vehicles; it's to stop people buying vehicles full stop. Ending personal ownership of vehicles is on the agenda.
Yer on to it
You apparently don't need a vehicle in the coming gated, tightly guarded 15 minute cities.
you clearly don’t understand how urban infrastructure works. Perhaps not in Europe, but through much of the rest of the world cities have been transformed and they’re planning by cars. In brief, they don’t work without cars being present because that’s what they were built to support. There is no scenario where personal transportation disappears. Stick to something with a basis in reality and quit with the brainless right wing memes.
You'll lease everything, it will be homes next. You can see it coming a mile off
That's what I have been saying for years now
How does this EU proposal affect Bankrupt Britain?
RUBBISH!
This item seems to be keeping popping up every now and then because it creates an easy talking point, I guess…
To be factual; it is (or was), as you rightfully mention, a proposal. Nothing more than that. The proposal talks about getting vehicles of the road that are either technically or economically ’total loss’. From 2035, mind you, not before.
To be fair, that’s not a very big problem in my opinion. And of course, as will always be the case in these situations, there will then be plenty of exceptions for historical, ‘special’ vehicles, etc. etc.
So, unless you will stubbornly believe the EU will actually grind a halt to an entire industrial sector, which is the vehicle-repair sector and it’s subsidiaries, it is most likely not a very realistic scenario…
But thanks anyway for sharing your concerns, while I am also aware that we (the public) must always be vigilant and on the lookout for real problems. Although in this case it’s not really worth the fuss…
Like and subscribe, that's all it's about. He either knows it's false or doesn't care.
If EV's were so great, they would not have to implement draconian laws to force use to use them.
Have we definitely left the EU, or was Brexit just smoke and mirrors spat out by Cameron.
I stand corrected. The UK officially left the EU in 2020. My apologies.
Well it appears so...but in reality....we are still a subjugated member..
If you don’t know by now, that you’re into the Brags-hit, then it doesn’t matter. It won’t change, unless the public and the government gets their pants on the right way and move to build a nation and not keep the soshiety as it is. I’m for EU (a fixed one), but I honestly thought and told a collegue then early: I think this spin-off from the EU can really be a tough, but good chance to rebuild a better strong and leading UK (forward) not degenerate backfarts oriented monkey island, like it’s trying to be (yep, went across last year, it’s a sad island for the most central and south-eastern part, a very sad place, still green though in most places and therefore nice).
I can understand the aggressive frustration there, but not the lack of revolt against the government. No Frenchmen would dare to allow that, and even the boring germans would go out.
@@colindowd3892…..we’re still tied to the EU in many ways, we’re not a fully independent country 🤯
Exactly smoke and horse 💩
They have passed this law in Delhi in India & other parts of India are considering it as well it's really unfortunate 😢
The WEF don't ride motorcycles. The WEF and EU make electric bikes to replace them. So the EU will accede to the WEF.
The WEF and EU have no concern for poor people needing to use their vehicles for as long as possible.
Private motor yachts, business jets and International trade shipping Chinese vehicles to Europe, and European vehicles to China, creates vastly more polution. But the WEF and EU leaders refuse to make concessions to reduce pollution.
There is no public debate on these issues.
Another reason to reject any agreements with the EU. No seats for the Tories or Labour
this video is ill informed crap and not true
about 60% of our food comes from or through the EU. If the EU fully enforced Article 50 (which the UK requested) the people would be starving (or smuggling it into the country on small boats)
@@thomaswright7580 Almost like we're massively over-populated...
If only the UK had had some way of influencing or vetoing this type of stuf... And I'll bet this type of legislation is sponsored and lobbied for by the vehicle manufacturers, so if you think they won't do it in the UK also, you're deluded.
@@thomaswright7580 you have a food producing friend called Australia. The people of Australia would ensure our allies won’t go hungry. Yes, we also have to topple our communist regime first. Believe me, they most likely won’t make it to the next election. Aussies are waking up in droves!
Full electrification is never going to happen.
The plan is to get everyone out of cars and into 5 min cities.
@@TheLiamis Because they want to control us in a communist like manner, no freedom of movement or speech.
@@TheLiamis _Gang aft agley_ my friend, _gang aft agley._
Indeed
This is the hill I die on. I will sacrifice everything before I acquire an electric vehicle.
It's not about sustainability. They want to force you to buy a new vehicle which is always online, spies on you, lets them limit its use to certain times or areas, or shut it down. You'll notice those capabilities are mandated by new legislation for all new vehicles starting soon.
I'm 63 now and will continue to ride my beloved 1994 tuned Fireblade, that I have owned from new, for as long as I am physically able, regardless of any legislation to the contrary!!! Some things are not to be messed with
They also want to do this for cars over 15 years. Can we please get these people out of government? As if the minute number of classic vehicles could have any impact even if you believed the carbon narrative hook line and sinker
no you cant get them out of government, we didnt vote for any of the people running the EU, they just give the position to their buddies when an opening comes up.
Labour will be no better.
They try to stop me riding my dead grandad's bike? Never, I will die before it happens
nothing in this video bears any resemblance to anything being proposed so you can
You spelt the word between never and will wrong . The correct spelling is "they".
@@bernardlandymore7372 no because it's like spartans trying to stop persia, we will die and they will win
"Your offer is acceptable." - The government.
I got your back
Could you please post a link to the actual document where I can read the actual proposal?
No link to anything = assume this is made up for drama
@@matejlieskovsky9625 I assume he is talking about the Directive on end-of-life vehicles (the ELV directive) and the 2023 proposal for a new and reviewed ELV directive. A few seconds ago I wrote a detailed comment here with links and all, but it was automatically deleted because it contained a link to a page outside of RUclips. Just search for "elv directive 2023" and you'll find it, but be prepared to download a bunch of pdf files if you want the complete proposal.
@@matejlieskovsky9625 @matejlieskovsky9625 I assume he is talking about the Directive on end-of-life vehicles (the ELV directive) and the 2023 proposal for a new and reviewed ELV directive. A few seconds ago I wrote a detailed comment here with links and all, but it was automatically deleted because it contained a link to a page outside of RUclips. Just search for "elv directive 2023" and you'll find it, but be prepared to download a bunch of pdf files if you want the complete proposal.
I found the link but RUclips keeps deleting my comments so I can't post it.
@@syspangylium youtube likes to delete links in comments a lot.
You seem to have not actually read the proposed legislation. It is almost as if your source of information was Nigel Farage you are that badly informed.
All the legislation will mean is that either a vehicle over 15 years old will be properly maintained and or refurbished or will be scrapped in a proper way. So it is not going to hit the classic market what will stop is people dumping cars and or passing a car off as roadworthy when it is not.
I smell A LOSER! 😂
Nothing is more sustainable than keeping what you have going. Yet more control over our lives, it's nothing to do with environmental issues.
Don't believe all this nonsense
With the French and German nationalist parties,booming, I won't be betting on the EU still surviving in its current form,until 2035,
Amen to that brother!
We can only pray
I really hope you’re correct.
Do you really think these communists will listen to anybody other than themselves. Strange how they wanted the USSR to fall apart, only to form their own.
😂😂😂😂 how's about them flying saucers great aren't they
This is EU legislation that does not affect British bikers. Of course the Labour and Tory parties are hell bent on pushing ,'electric', upon us but having heard Nigel Farage proclaim that the Reform party has no interest in banning ICE then it makes sense to vote Reform, I say this as a lifelong Tory who used to do leaflets, number catching, door to door, etc but the current Tory party is a pale shadow of what it used to be and does not deserve my support, (I never voted Labour).
EU should ban potholed roads don't you think, not that they have any juristriction over us
I hope that the British people stand up against this proposal.
Not a chance. Our pathetic government will adopt any old cobblers law the EU passes.
Can't stand up against a proposal IF WE'RE NOT IN THE EU ANYMORE. Well done.
@@henrybird2716 So no need to blindly buy into everything they promote. ....except we will.
nothing in this video bears any resemblance to anything being proposed so you can't stand up to things that aren't true
How ? Have you not heard of Brexit? U.K. is not part of the EU
While Germany continues to mine and burn lignite (very poor quality coal ) in its many coal fired power stations , presumably to power their electric
vehicles !
Germany had to do that as criminal Merkel and her co-conspirators closed the nuclear installations after Fukushima was bombed by the Rothschilds what was sold as being caused by a tsunami. The tsunami was made with a nuclear bomb.
Germany who makes electricity from lignite. With massive lignite mines. Other countries wondering how to produce electricity and banning nuclear and power from natural gas. I wonder how they are going to cope to produce enough electricity to power everything. Not all countries want solar or wind farms. Bad for the environment. At least we will all be healthy with all the walking we will be doing. We are hearing more cynicism about climate change and how it is mostly nature causing it and not totally the internal combustion engine. We have been hearing about flooding of land from melting icebergs and the weather heating up since the late 80s and nothing has happened. No flooding. In fact ice is building in Artic waters . We have also had a colder and wetter winter this year than normal. Climate factors to the South come from underwater volcanos circling the Antartic causing displacement of the currents. Something we have no control over. It is about time governments look at this lunacy and the good science that is out there but being ignored.
We know a complete ban for ICEs is a given, it's a question of timeframe and methodology.
They can allow you to keep your ICE motor and make it's running so expensive you'll just end up storing it and so not have to outright ban it's use, I don't think how is as important, unless in the back of one's mind the "how" will determine their non-compliance strategy.
At the end of the day a marketing campaign implementing scare-tactics will have the public fully against the use of anything that serves to worsen the catastrophic enviromental situation as it will have been presented to them.
Right now we're being told that the Russians will attack Europe in 3-5 years, down the line you'll be told a lot of things that don't make sense and do not hold up to scrutinee but the general public cannot withstand state propaganda.
I say enjoy what you have, this one's inevitable, the transition will hurt but once it's been implemented it will no longer matter to the world what once was.
Communist behaviour. My British motorcycle brothers & sisters. Please fight this.
Britain ain’t a part of the EU.
What should they fight?
@@kasperkjrsgaard1447also, no ban is actually proposed..
Communist China loves petrol motorcycles.
India has same law..
Actually it's neo-liberal state and corporate sponsored capitalism on steroids attempting to further increase it's already massive level of centralised control. None of which benefits the 99%, little of which benefits the environment and all of which further enriches the parasite class...just saying
We aren't supposed to be in the EU. I remember voting to leave.
He’s talking crap, don’t try to make any sense of his lies.
No say when your out..
WE ARENT IN THE EU. NONE OF THIS VIDEO IS TRUE (SEE MY COMMENT ABOVE) AND EVEN IF IT WERE, IT WOULD NOT APPLY TO US.
@@henrybird2716At last, someone with some _real_ knowledge. Everything in this video is false. Untrue. Just click bait to get right-wing, knee-jerk, buffoons to click and like.
@@henrybird2716 We will adopt any law they create in order to keep a market presence on the continent. If we produce any goods that do not meet their regulations they will not be allowed to be sold in the EU. If we struck a deal with any partner they didn't approve of it would lead to dire consequences. Hotel California scenario. You can check out any time you like, but you can never leave.
Most enthusiastic people involved in historic vehicles will keep these vehicles going regardless, if they cant do the repairs themselves, there is always a friend available to lend a hand.
Government as we know it is a hindrance to life in most countries. The waste from battery manufacturing and disposal is way worse than from petroleum.
I do all my own maintenance and if anything goes wrong I repair the bike myself. How the hell would they know if I repaired a gearbox or engine? The only way I'd think it could be done was by closing down or licencing spare parts or suppliers in some way.
Not all that concerned, governments are slowly coming to realize that implementing draconian policies in the name of the planet aren't feasible if the population won't accept it
They have already said that spare parts will be illegal
@@neilg4208 Thanks missed that, so all suppliers of parts for older bikes and vehicles will have their business' curtailed in what they can supply, not to mention breakers etc: Good luck with that.
It'll never happen. Good Grief what are these people smoking!!!
@@neilg4208 Which directive would that come under?
This isn't a law to stop you fixing a vehicle, or using spare parts, in fact one aim of the proposal is to increase the amount of parts that can be removed from scrap vehicles and used to repair other vehicles.
The concerning parts are the definition of End of Life vehicle and tougher regulations on what happens once a vehicle is considered to be only worth scrapping.
Also the proposal exempts historical vehicles, generally those over 30 years old,
I like classic mechanics, but the only way to survive today is not to give a f..K about things anymore, which means contributing nothing to society
I honestly don't see it happening. I've just come back from the Stafford Classic bike show. Walking around the Bonham's auction there are some bikes expected to fetch £240,000. There's a massive industry here involved in the renovation of vintage bikes. No UK government will implement such legislation. Last I heard we had left the EU???
It's more likely that petrol will be hiked in price to such an extent that folks won't be able to run their classic or vintage vehicle.
No ban is proposed. The video is just clickbait.
@@davidperrott5743 Yep
Then I shall distil my own fuel
@@davidperrott5743 FINALLY someone talking sense in this comment section
Horses are expensive too, but people have and ride them. In my dealer experience folks will spend anything they want on their hobby.
It shows the ignorance of the people who propose this legislation. Running an older vehicle had only a fraction of the environmental impact that comes from manufacturing a new vehicle.
Your title is misleading. The EU will ban NEW motorcycles with a combustion motor starting in 2035 (and that will most likely apply to cars too). If you still have one with a combustion engine from before that date you can use it as long as it still passes inspection (where the standards of the year it was build apply, not the standards of 2035). Just as you still can drive a car from 1910 with no turn indicators.
That's deliberate. It's just clickbait. Must have those likes and subscribes.
It's never been about emitions.
It's about the tax generated by the manufacture and sale of new vehicles.
It's about changing the public mindset from personal transport being the norm, and turning the idea of owning your own vehicle into a luxury.
It's about controlling where and when people can travel.
It's about making the public reliant on services provided by government, so if we step out of line, we can have our access to these services restricted.
The government wants the ability to make us all reliant on them for everything, so they can make the repercussions of standing up against them so devastating to our way of life that we'd all be too afraid to step out of line.
As a potential example of what I mean. If you complain publicly on line about the government, and mention that you're going to a protest march on a certain day, the government could stop you doing this by putting restrictions on you using your central bank digital currency to pay for travel. They could silence you by putting restrictions on your ability to pay for hone internet access, and crush you by preventing you from paying for transport to do things like get to work, go to the shops, or travel to anywhere within walking distance of a place that they say groups of like minded protesters have been meeting. Making us reliant on them for travel is just one part of their plan to keep us controlled.
You have got that correct. The direction of EU is to become more and more authoritarian and it doesn't seem like it can be stopped. There are just no knobs and levers provided to the people to influence that. Voting has not been able to fix the institutional corruption and protests are ineffective as well.
Correct. The plan is all laid out in Agenda 2030, apparently it's a conspiracy theory although you can download a PDF of it from the UN website. It's a terrifying read, I don't recommend it, there's no going back to sleep afterwards.
Bonanza time for scrapyards then...
CO2 is not a pollutant and they know it for years, yet push this propaganda to enslave and tax people.
You are right on the money.
Bloody bureaucrats are drunk with power
They are hoping that they have killed off the skill of fixing vehicles with future generations.
It’s a multi pronged attack.
Just waiting for them to start banning certain motorsport & motorsport venues.
Do UK citizens really believe this bs!?!? Omg.😮
30% believed the Brexit bullshit, so yes there is a significant minority of idiots who will swallow anything anti-europe.
There is a bit of mis understanding here. The EU has put a sunset clause in on the support for IC vehicles. It is not a ban, rather that after 2050 manufacturers will not have to support with spares and service IC vehicles.
The reason for this is that most vehicle changes are gradual with one model evolving into the next. In this case there is a mandated change in fudemental technology. In normal circumstances parts can be made for 20 or 30 years as platforms evolve, but with the change to electric this will not be the case. Therefore the EU is guiding manufacturers on the minimum period to support IC vehicles post 2035 ban on sales.
Bear in mind that France, Germany, The Netherlands, Belgium and Italy all have strong classic car and bike scenes with powerful lobbies. A ban would simply not pass.
Thank God there’s somebody on here talking sense. The guy is spouting nonsense.
Thank you Jonathan. The guy who made this video has either totally misunderstood the proposal, is simply parroting some ultra-right online publication, or is simply lying through his teeth for clicks. I suspect all of the above personally.
@@garyt123 and the sad thig is that the morons believe it. that's why we're in the mess we're in. Stupid people on the internet
@mystifiedaphid - One explanation here
it's also encouraging recycling. The proposals deal with end of life vehicles and they attempt to ensure that parts are recycled. This would actually increase the supply of second hand parts and would have the completely opposite effect from what the video claims. I think the maker is either stupid or malicious and given that the same lies are being repeated by far right commentators, I rather suspect it's the latter. His "research" has probably been reading a wingnut blog
This is madness Chain and India are still building coal power stations and mining more coal!
this video is ill informed crap and not true
US, China and Russia make 90% of the CO2. The UK makes 0.04%. Not all the countries in the world will have any effect on stopping Global warming. It's a fact of life! Paying attention to emissions will only improve air quality.
So are Germany
China has been classified as a developing country
To produce electricity!!! Not petro.
One big question i have is how are the govourment going to enforce the rule of not repairing a "residual" motorbike, how are they going to stop someone repairing their own motorbike in their house garage or in a shed etc, are they going to go round routinely inspecting motorbike owners houses or something? if you take good care of your motorbike, repair it yourself, run regular maintainance and have a stock of parts that you use for the bike, how are they going to stop you?
This is not true. No one talk about this because they don't take away your motorcycle 🤯.
If you look at Norway, 1/4 of all cars on the road are EV's.
Gas station are closing, and are changing names to energy stations.
The problem with motorcycles is that they are so few that in 2050 you probably have had to make your fuel your self for years.
Regarding the repare, it's about the factories having to have parts for those vehicles for tens of years.
Carbon Dioxide (Co2)concentration in the atmosphere is 0.04%. If the level drops to 0.02%, It will have the dire consequence of stopping photosynthesis, halting oxygen production, collapsing the food chain. That is a fractional difference of 0.02%, a sliver of a margin. Climate change, previously known as weather, is the biggest con since Britain went decimal.
Jeez, people can’t even make change in decimal money these days! Can you imagine the chaos if there was still £.s.d.!?
In dinosaur times and earlier it was 0.4% and the planet flurrshed, CO2 is not the problem.
@@derekgargan5080 Not the concentration itself is the problem, it's how much it changed in a short period of time. Also it's not the planet we have to worry about rather how we survive on it. The planet will be fine.
Mars has less polluted CO2 atmosphere and less vehicles, make them go live there 😂
I've never read such a collection of utter bollocks before. Well done.
Man my bike is from 87 and still going strong
Just run in!
As you state, you don't normally go into political stuff.
Theres a famous quote that resonates -
First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out- Because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out- Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out- Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me-and there was no one left to speak for me.
In your particular case, first they came for everything else, now they're coming for classic bikers.
Anyone who still votes for the UK's large political parties deserves their fate.
‘They’ won’t have to ‘ban’ classic bikes.
It’s already nigh on impossible to find fuel at petrol stations that won’t bugger up your carbs and harden your fuel hoses / seals if you leave it in them for months.
Eventually we’d end up having to order fuel in the post that doesn’t contain any nasties.
Which is when people who ride classic bikes will give in and just use them as ornaments.
They won't be banning older bikes. It's utter bollocks.
They will do whatever they want.
@@human1513 No they won't.
they are already at it. I had a minor accident in my car front wing and headlight slight damage. It was wrote off no one came to see it!!!
@@bwghall1 you didnt have to make the claim, could have repaired it yourself nothing stopping you.
@@bwghall1 Just scratch a 20 yr old car and it's "totaled" . BTW many private airplanes are 30 - 50 Years old.
Here in Spain every bike has to be taxed tested and insured, I don´t think people keep non-runners much.
So called electric vehicles actually are running on fossil fuel burned in the power station.
Britain relies increasingly on imports of food from the other side of the world, brought in ships that use 400 plus tons of fuel every day which now have to navigate Cape Horn.
Something doesn´t add up.
Little idea you have about Spain then. Until the new EU legislation it cost over €1000 for a classic motorcycle to be registered as a Vehiculo Histórico. Said vehicle had to be 100% original, matching numbers and all original parts (even tyre sizes). Thanks to the new changes you can now repair your classic vehicles with pattern parts as long as the major components are original (chassis, engine, etc.). This has also reduced the cost of registering aa vehicle as historic.
Funny how the _reality_ is totally the reverse of what the guy in the video says - coz either he doesn't understand or is just lying for clicks.
well, thats not true, alternative energy is cheaper and faster and will take over in the end...
@@lauchlanguddy1004 Generally cheaper. Faster? In what sense? You mean from the starting point of production to being injected into the grid?
Electric is great, but suffers from huge density issues. IMHO I think hydrogen, or lately there is talk of ammonia - both, or a mix of both, seem to solve the density issues, but introduce their own little quirks to sort out.
AND THEY WILL FINE YOU WITHOUT NOTICE
BY DEBITTING YOUR CBDC
What are you talking about sold to “us” do you not know Brexit has happened and EU legislation does not apply in thenUK where you are based . Why are you concerned about its? It’s like saying Taiwan has proposed a law that I don’t like ! Ridiculous
This is probably the well used trick of attacking one sector initially, then little by little, the next one, then the next and so on. Not all at once, otherwise there would be too much opposition.
SHHHH we can't have you telling the TRUTH No please scream it as loud as you can PLEASE
@@josephschultz Correct - the frog has not to know what is going on!
I suggest you read the Fit for 55 proposals more closely. No mention of any scrapage schemes at all. It’s all focused on the CO2 reduction targets for cars and vans. Of course bikes will be affected but this also takes into account newer, cleaner engines and the use of biofuels and bio ethanol powered bikes. 55 is a percentage target reduction that will take into account lower emissions from bikes in general.
Meanwhile in the UK, University of Leeds has proposed WWII style rationing be imposed as "a fairer way to fight climate change" 🤣😭
Couldn't make it up 🤷♂️
Well done for making more people aware of this.
I do suspect though as the bubble for EVs is bursting, if not under severe pressure, that a lot of these proposals will be thrown out or severly diluted and delayed
The fact remains those in government, around the world, but being led by Europe, do not want us humble 'pee ons' having any independence, hobbies, ways of making a bit of cash.
I am not against EV engineering as well, but they are not clean. Just research what it takes to get lithium out of the ground and what it takes to dispose of spent batteries. Not to mention. What the extra weight does to our roads! People who push this green option are diluded.
Great vid. Well done
this video is ill informed crap and not true
nothing in this video bears any resemblance to anything being proposed
@@stewartellinson8846 Don't leave us hanging. Tell us why?
@@iandeumayne-jones1557 there's nothing to say really. nothing of what he says is true, the EU is not proposing anything he outlines. it's been dealth with extensively elsewher and he's either stupid or willfully misrepresenting what's happebing for boomer clicks. in a nutshell, the EU is planning to ensure vehicles are properly recycled and not just dumped. The video above is simply nonsense.
The 1% want us to return to serfdom, the chosen I,Ms will speed this up .look at where they fled from
Vote out these leaders. Take your country(ies) back!
Voting is the suggestion box of slaves
In the UK, we have a choice this year. Think what really makes you and your life feel better and makes you happy?
You won't have many chances....you better get to it now.
I was in the automotive industry since 1972. The more thrifty the person the longer they kept their vehicle on the road. Big government will only win. As they will collect larger tax amounts, & build public transportation to extract money from poorer citizens. It’s all control, & greed. What else could it be? All my vehicles are between 1996, to 2007. All look & run like new. I have zero car or motorcycle payments.
I live in Berlin and enjoyed the ride through the landscape in early spring listening to the nice sound of a Norton machine. My work is 18km away in the center of the city and there is no space for a car or motorbike. I use an electric folding bike wich could be stored under the table. And so I was the only one who was on time when the public transport was on strike. A physican working for the environmental government told me years ago that electric cars are not the solution! In that light we could see the attack of the power supply of tesla by an environmental group weeks ago.
Well we in New Delhi have this rule applicable since 20 years ago now ... ask us how much it sucks
I know about this law in India ..it really doese not make sense as you don't get the rust on vehicles like other country's.... It's gread.... Alot of India vehical can easily last a lifetime..
@@windwalker583 polititions in bed with companies making just an excuse to force to buy new
@@SJ_new agreed it's all corruption..same as all goverments are corrupt...they get away with all this sadly.
I've seen the driving standards in India. How a bike even makes it to 4 years old without being smashed up amazes me.
@@surreyscouse2873 it's organised chaos like ocean , you see waves but it's actually calmer inside
It's dystopian
Orwellian. No worries though, the EU won´t make it past 2026. Just ask Russia.
this video is ill informed crap and not true
it's nonsense. nothing in this video bears any resemblance to anything being proposed
Blaming the Eu which we left some years ago for proposals which are not even laws in EU and dont affect the UK because we left . Well done mate .
We are not in the EU so I could not care less, 😅 the people of the EU will rise up against this tyranny as we did in the UK in 2016
This was inevitable once Net Zero was writ in stone.
this video is ill informed crap and not true
Net zero won't be possible as they are still allowing container to travel the length of UK on lorries due to the fact they have crippled rail freight by cancelling most of HS2
@nounoufriend1442 net zero is complete planet murder by a bunch of psychopaths based on pseudo science and manipulated data..
@@nounoufriend1442 Freight was not going on HS2, but they would still need to spend a fortune on the WCML. 90% of freight goes by road in the UK, so how on earth could you multiply freight carried on rail by a factor 9 or 10. Not possible. Now, if they were to spend the money saved from HS2 on repairing current roads and building new roads, that would produce a massive improvement in jobs and transport, but not without ICE engines.
Once again, my decision to vote for Brexit has been justified.
Brexit was just plain dumb.
@@amraceway Why? We're now the world's fourth largest exporter, thanks to Brexit.
@@fredmercury1314 what on earth does the UK actually export?
@@zofiakmicikiewicz2269 For one thing, really, really, really good beef.
The UK exports to 160 nations.
The top exports include cars, gold, gas turbines, crude petroleum, packaged medicaments, and various other goods.
Cars were the most valuable type of commodity exported from the UK in 2023, with exports of this commodity valued at approximately 36.6 billion British pounds.
Other top exports include electrical and electronic equipment, and chemicals.
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@@zofiakmicikiewicz2269finance services
This is Russia propaganda.
Eu don't ban motorcycles.
Eu don't permit new cars or motorcycle to be registered without some standards of pollution. But older vehicle can run without problem.
Just a thought, we have to replace big trucks or pay congestion charge for emissions , but it’s ok to sell them and export to places like Africa or dose the climate con not apply there , wake up people
You should have used Cuba as an example. As much as I hate Commie governments and bureaucrats such as Cuba and the EU/UN/WHO/WEF and their associated oligarchs, the Cuban people have proven just how sustainable refurbishing old items really is. 👍
I'd like to see them try to take my triumph off me 👊🏻😉🏴🇬🇧
They would put you in jail
@@jinz0 I'd like to see them try that too, u gotta pick a hill bro 👊🏼😉
nothing in this video bears any resemblance to anything being proposed
@@timanstee4952 see you in jail bro
@@timanstee4952 Will pick that hill:) FTW
Where is the link to this new legislation?
Remember illegal doesn't mean unlawful. It's just a different language. 💚💛❤️
Legislation only carries the power of law with consent.
I don't use a vehicle, I use a convayence
@@Sovereignfrith exactly. If I was able to travel I wouldn't be driving 👍💚💛❤️
Thanks for sharing this information. As a motorcycle rider. I support your opinion on this subject.
People all over the world need to push back against this agenda.
It’s not information it’s misinformation. Don’t you fall for it as well!
nothing in this video bears any resemblance to anything being proposed
God i rebuilt my 37 year old VFR400 NC21 from litterely tubs and boxes, imagine being banned from doing that.
This is just a proposal at present, and from the looks of things, is in it's very early stages with a LOT of discussion and research to be done before such legislation is passed. As classic cars etc are a very popular hobby, even among EU politiicians you can be pretty much rest assured that the actual proposals will specifically exclude classic vehicles. Spreading FUD is unhelpful and in any case, now that the UK is no longer in the EU any legislation passed by the EU is not going to affect the situation in the UK.
Do not consent. They want rid of co2 which means you too. 💚💛❤️
If they try to take any of our vehicles away. It is going to go down hard for them
I will sell everything I own, I will live on water and bread, before I give up on my cars and motorcycles. No way in hell. This is the hill I will die on
like guns in Amerika.
@@timbookedtwo2375 Amerika?
They want the evs so they can tag them to there grid, they want to tag all the animals up too.
We lost are country years ago because the people have no bollocks to stand together against elites
Unless this was filmed in Ireland, what does any Brit have to worry about what the E.U. does, long after Brexit has happened?
We got some crazy people in offices at the EU...
this video is ill informed crap and not true
Thank god we voted to walk away
Which is why we told them to F O
They would be crazy _if any single thing_ in this video was true. As its all lies then it isn't even important.
@@garyt123 euro 7 is no joke
They can SOD OFF.
this video is ill informed crap and not true
nothing in this video bears any resemblance to anything being proposed
Im in a classic bike club in greece,as far as we know there will be a registration system for all classic bikes,you can ride it every day
Google / RUclips will not let me say what I think should be done with our oppressors.
How does it affect the UK? We're out of the EU.
Of course we are 😅
Not if that dickhead labour party get in No10. Then the shit will hit the fan.
He seems to have trouble with reality.
It doesn't affect the UK. It doesn't even affect the EU as its not true - the guy either misunderstands the legislation, is thick, or its clickbait. I suspect all three.
@@garyt123 Never heard of Agenda 2030?