Seeing the equipment move to an organization willing to restore them is definitely better than letting the equipment rot away. I know the RRHMA are going to do a fantastic job with this project!
@@jwrailve3615 Well it was announced that 5511 will be restored to operating condition. :) But of course... 3985 will be restored first and foremost. ;)
Thank you so much! very well done to document history, your hard work is well displayed. Forever thankful for the ones of us that couldn't be there. That 6936 looks so awesome, still hard to believe the UPRR parted with it.
From a UK viewer this is an impressive line up! We have generally smaller locomotives here but it would be unheard of to see a rebuild loco on the main line. There are specialist companies that move locos between heritage railways. Well done UP
Yeah, it happens often enough here but I wouldn't say its common. My local Steam engine Soo Line 1003 gets on the main line about once a year. This year it made two trips. Once on its home railroad Wisconsin Southern for a photo excursion and the second time down to Chicago on the Metra railroad.
It's not unheard of in the UK as there are plenty of steam and diesel locomotives that have been restored and are certified for mainline running. There are plenty of tours on the mainline hauled by both.
@@UKHeritageRailways i agree yes there are plenty of running restored certified locos on the system. My point was that projects like these would not be moved on the network between heritage branch lines
But public excursions on class 1 railroads other than UP are now non existent because of Amtrak’s charter ban started March 2018 and liability issues. Class 1’s don’t want the risk anymore of railfan excursions. Too many things can go wrong. NS allowed steam excursions again from Sept. 2011 to spring 2017 because then CEO Charles “Wick” Moorman was a railfan. He wanted steam to run on NS again and they partnered with TVRM then Fort Wayne with 765 and VMT in Roanoke with 611. Cheyenne is the only place in the US that has steam locomotives at a class 1 owned facility.
Glad 3985 is getting restored, sad to see it in such a state. My dad and I got to ride from Sacramento to Portola CA when it came through about 1992. Got to go up in the cab at a Rail Fair in Sacramento one year too
@@davidblankenship2720 I doubt they want him within 2 miles of the equipment given why he was “retired,” and given the fraud charges against Wahsatch Rail Contractors.
I really thought those cars were going to be used, in a park project, here in Cheyenne. I'm gladd to see this historic equipment get used, but sad to see it leave Cheyenne.
As a kid growing up in Chicago I used to hang out at the tracks and see those C&NW F units every day. Over time they all went away. The very last one I know of sat for years on a east side of the station siding at the Waukegan METRA/C&NW station. Riding from downtown to Zion I used to always look for it. Until the day it was gone also. I can't wait to see this one restored.
I'm excited to see 3985 and 5511 be restored and join the up steam shop fleet, they will make a good addition to the team, I can now picture it, all 4 engines, 4014 in the front, and 844 in the back, all doing a quad heading down the northeast corridor with a giant excision train
@@jwrailve3615 You keep making this comment but every bit of press out there that has covered this has said that 5511 will be restored to operation as that was part of the terms of the donation but 3985 will be first.
"Join the UP steam shop fleet"???? These aren't being sent out to be overhauled and then returned to UP. These were donated and will no longer be in the UP steam fleet.
I wish the RHOMA good luck when they get started on the work needed to bring back 3985. It still amazes me that UP donated the engine alongside other pieces of their equipment to them, giving the engines a new lease on life and another chance at running again. Including 5511.
Interestingly, UP had 5511 up for sale for YEARS, advertising it as a restorable engine for any tourist line. RRHMA has themselves a priceless piece of railroading history, as she's the last of her kind, the TTT-class (ironically, the Big Boys and Challengers are what replaced her in service on the Wasatch Range in the 1940s, that was originally the route that the "Triple Ts" had been built for 20 some years earlier).
What a great catch you got there. I didn't realize that I could goggle union pacific and the numbers on the engines and the cars and it brought up information on each one cool
I also like how they made this donation move using a regular manifest train, symbolically 3985 making her final run symbolically also doing the job she always did
I am from Dekalb. Great to see the CNW on the end. 🙂 Part of my childhood was watching those green and yellow locomotives ramble back and forth as they crossed the middle of town. UP is awesome too.
My Dad grew up in Iowa, where the CNW, the UP and the Rock Island ruled supreme. He vividly remembers the Rock Island especially, and IIRC he actually a close call as a teenager with one of their big red diesels when he got a piece of farm equipment stuck on a crossing, just barely managing to get it off the tracks in time (this was around 1970). It's great to see these old trains brought back, too bad the CNW and RI couldn't survive as lines though.
Nice to see these historical engines and coaches running on the main line again,which will be restored and return to operation.And I believe the best way to preserve a historical train is to bring her back to life!
i always asked myself whatever happened to the challenger until this video its good to see it as its still around like the 844 and Big Boy and of course 5511
This looks like it's the same stretch of line from the video "UP Challenger #3985 + 143 Freight Cars", if it is it's great to see it back on familiar territory. And of course always superb news that steam locos are being restored for a new generation people to experience!
Yeah spotted that and wondered what if was doing so far from home. Locally they redid a bunch of the MetroNorth diesels in the original New Haven livery. Are beautiful.
The E unit has been completely gutted and is now a shell. If they can find a way to turn it into a locomotive, it will be good seeing it run with Milwaukee 32A if painted as such. The CNW unit is going to the Boone and Scenic Valley; while I’m not sure what they will do, I’m also hopeful that it will be restored.
It’s a sad thought that UP isn’t gonna have a Centennial anymore. One of my favorite diesels. It is good it’s going somewhere instead of scrapping it though.
Amazing scenes, beautiful in all respects.I should say beautiful mechanical giant snakes.The sound of those diesels is just exciting and sweet to the ear.
Up in northern Minnesota there are 3 Yellowstone's (2-8-8-4), all within 35 miles of each other and known for pulling some of the heaviest ore trains ever recorded. As much as I like to see any steam locomotive restored for posterity, it would be gratifying to see one of those Yellowstone's restored to operating condition, especially No.225, which is kept outside exposed to the elements.
Caje1962 Indeed, that would be great to see one of those restored to operational status. Were Yellowstones Mallets? True “compound” articulated engines? Also, did UP ever have that class of engine on their roster?
@@turkfiles No. Although Yellowstones are Mallets and ran between 40 and 45 mph (though it's not bad, it's just a same speed as the NS steam excursions speed restrictions), but they're simple Articulateds.
@@turkfiles The DM&IR RR Yellowstone was a "simple" articulated locomotive designed by ALCO and first used on the Northern Pacific railroad in 1928. I am not aware of UP ever using this type of wheel arrangement: UP favored their Challengers (4-6-6-4) and Big Boys (4-8-8-4). My late father used to refer to these giant locomotives as "Mallets", although a true Mallet is a "compound" locomotive.
Were the string of revenue cars for additional braking power? If not, crafty how Uncle Pete eased the expense of this overhead move by adding a few revenue cars! Thanks for documenting and sharing with us this historic move. Excellent videography, Tom.
I don’t know why, but the shot at 4:09 reminds me so much of the I Love Toy Trains videos I used to watch as a kid. Gonna have to go try and pull it off myself now. Great vid!
just think in a few years we will have the "big 3", 4014, 3985 and 844. the 3 most iconic UP locos all be operational. the fact the 5511 will be too is just icing on the cake.
Quite the chase you put in. Loved seeing the DD40X on the move, the steamers were awesome. But the DD was great, thanks for putting in the time and the miles to share this
The thought of seeing 3985 and 4014 running together at some point possibly... that makes me a little excited. That it's even a possibility is even more amazing.
A little sad 6936 is donated but at least it is still operational. The other one I know is at ILM in Union, Illinois that is in far worse shape and doesn't have operational prime movers but the unit can be run with other equipment since the cab controls and traction motors still work or so I'm given to understand. I saw 3985 during its trip to the Twin Cities in Minnesota but hopefully all of these gets some restorative love.
I loved seeing 4014 run again, but it was sad to see that the instant people saw it, everyone forgot all about the Challenger. It's like having a favorite kid.
Seeing the equipment move to an organization willing to restore them is definitely better than letting the equipment rot away. I know the RRHMA are going to do a fantastic job with this project!
Indeed! Will be fun to tour the RRHMA shop once it is open to the public.
Just wish 5511 would be restored to steam and not just cosmetic as planned.
@@jwrailve3615 You do realize 5511 will be restored to steam completely as pre the plan, right?
@@jimmyhook4852 that’s not what I had been seeing but if that’s true than I’m more excited for that than anything.
@@jwrailve3615 Well it was announced that 5511 will be restored to operating condition. :)
But of course... 3985 will be restored first and foremost. ;)
That first shot is great! Same spot as the video showing 3985 pulling the doublestacks up the hill full speed, like she wasn’t even trying 💪
26:26 is rad!! Super nice low light shot man. This final sequence is fantastic. Many thanks for taking the time to chase, capture, edit and share!
Thank you.
Thank you so much! very well done to document history, your hard work is well displayed. Forever thankful for the ones of us that couldn't be there. That 6936 looks so awesome, still hard to believe the UPRR parted with it.
Thank you.
From a UK viewer this is an impressive line up!
We have generally smaller locomotives here but it would be unheard of to see a rebuild loco on the main line.
There are specialist companies that move locos between heritage railways.
Well done UP
Yeah, it happens often enough here but I wouldn't say its common. My local Steam engine Soo Line 1003 gets on the main line about once a year. This year it made two trips. Once on its home railroad Wisconsin Southern for a photo excursion and the second time down to Chicago on the Metra railroad.
It's not unheard of in the UK as there are plenty of steam and diesel locomotives that have been restored and are certified for mainline running. There are plenty of tours on the mainline hauled by both.
@@UKHeritageRailways You guys do have a lot of neat locomotives.
@@UKHeritageRailways i agree yes there are plenty of running restored certified locos on the system.
My point was that projects like these would not be moved on the network between heritage branch lines
But public excursions on class 1 railroads other than UP are now non existent because of Amtrak’s charter ban started March 2018 and liability issues. Class 1’s don’t want the risk anymore of railfan excursions. Too many things can go wrong. NS allowed steam excursions again from Sept. 2011 to spring 2017 because then CEO Charles “Wick” Moorman was a railfan. He wanted steam to run on NS again and they partnered with TVRM then Fort Wayne with 765 and VMT in Roanoke with 611. Cheyenne is the only place in the US that has steam locomotives at a class 1 owned facility.
I just bought a Lionel legacy lionmaster challenger. This is the best year ever!!!
Thanks for sharing this, and taking all the time to film and edit! I live north of there yet would have never known.
Great video it's nice to see them things move after all the mirrors keep them coming Tom
We live in Kimball Ne. We were stationed in Cheyenne Wy. Glad to see a beautiful piece of history getting the love it needs.
It's bittersweet to see 3985 in that sad state yet heading to a new lease on life. Thanks for sharing. 👍
It is really nice to see this equipment on it's way to restoration. It will be great to see 3985 under steam once again one day in the future.
He will not. This is will be used just for exposition something like this
@@OCanalDeVideoGamesyes it will wdym?
@@OCanalDeVideoGames bro, this is a girl. People do know how to disappoint an engine misgendering it
@@infaredxkingz8786 engines doesnt have an gender
Glad 3985 is getting restored, sad to see it in such a state. My dad and I got to ride from Sacramento to Portola CA when it came through about 1992. Got to go up in the cab at a Rail Fair in Sacramento one year too
I was a kid grew up in Sierra Valley remember seeing it in Portola
It looks worse than it really is with the jacketing removed. :)
Hope they overhaul Steve Lee, would be nice to see him at the throttle one more time 👍
@@davidblankenship2720 I doubt they want him within 2 miles of the equipment given why he was “retired,” and given the fraud charges against Wahsatch Rail Contractors.
"Only" 30 years ago. Sheesh!
I really thought those cars were going to be used, in a park project, here in Cheyenne. I'm gladd to see this historic equipment get used, but sad to see it leave Cheyenne.
UP will apparently be able to rent the locomotives after they are restored, so they can use them for any events or excursions they want to.
They are all going to a good home. Can’t wait to see them under power again awesome video of these steam beasts.
Fascinating in so many ways.
As a kid growing up in Chicago I used to hang out at the tracks and see those C&NW F units every day. Over time they all went away. The very last one I know of sat for years on a east side of the station siding at the Waukegan METRA/C&NW station. Riding from downtown to Zion I used to always look for it. Until the day it was gone also. I can't wait to see this one restored.
Excellent shots. 👍 from the UK. 🇬🇧
Thank you.
I'm excited to see 3985 and 5511 be restored and join the up steam shop fleet, they will make a good addition to the team, I can now picture it, all 4 engines, 4014 in the front, and 844 in the back, all doing a quad heading down the northeast corridor with a giant excision train
5511 is only being cosmetic restored as of now. Bummer I’d rather see it be restored over 3985 just because of how long it sat in the shop.
@@jwrailve3615 You keep making this comment but every bit of press out there that has covered this has said that 5511 will be restored to operation as that was part of the terms of the donation but 3985 will be first.
@@jwrailve3615 5511 will be restored to operation after 3985, it's in the terms of the donation agreement.
"Join the UP steam shop fleet"???? These aren't being sent out to be overhauled and then returned to UP. These were donated and will no longer be in the UP steam fleet.
There probably arent enough coaches in north america to need all that motive power
Awesome video. It will be great to see all of these being restored.
Pleased to see 6936 in there. Hopefully that leviathan DDA40X is still going to see some occasional use. Spotted that F unit to.
Great catch! I hadn’t noticed the DD40x in the middle. Thanks for pointing it out!
Thank you Traveling Tom for the memories of when America was a leader of the world in technology and industry. Thank you for the memories, Ciao, L
I wonder how many times I saw that CNW #401 rolling through my hometown when I was a kid.
I do hope the new owners will bring it to its former glory.
Wow this is exciting news and great to see! Thanks for sharing.
Wow. I didn't realize that 3985 had been sitting for 12 years. I'm glad to see they are restoring it.
Can't wait to see these in operating condition! God, bless!
Wow, that was awesome, you got a historic video. Thank you so much for sharing it and the story behind it with us.
You are welcome.
Outstanding video in every way! thanks for sharing.
This is impressive! Thank you for capturing this and sharing it!!
You are welcome.
6936 is my favorite! Hope they restore it to full working condition. Just an awesome statement of horsepower!
I wish the RHOMA good luck when they get started on the work needed to bring back 3985. It still amazes me that UP donated the engine alongside other pieces of their equipment to them, giving the engines a new lease on life and another chance at running again. Including 5511.
Interestingly, UP had 5511 up for sale for YEARS, advertising it as a restorable engine for any tourist line. RRHMA has themselves a priceless piece of railroading history, as she's the last of her kind, the TTT-class (ironically, the Big Boys and Challengers are what replaced her in service on the Wasatch Range in the 1940s, that was originally the route that the "Triple Ts" had been built for 20 some years earlier).
@@thunderbird1921 I knew about 5511 being the last of her type for UP, but the other fact you mentioned I didn't know.
I've seen both the 6936 and the 3985 here in California. Great to know that they will be preserved.
What a great catch you got there. I didn't realize that I could goggle union pacific and the numbers on the engines and the cars and it brought up information on each one cool
Glad to see steam trains are making a comeback my grandpa use to work wit these ups steam trains
Awesome capture. Not your everyday train. Just missing Big Boy. Thanks for sharing.
Having the Big Boy pulling it would be pretty epic.
When they get restored they should run a quad header with 844,3985,4014, and 5511. Would love to see that
looking forward to see Big boy sharing the rails with his little sister UP 3985 again!
I also like how they made this donation move using a regular manifest train, symbolically 3985 making her final run symbolically also doing the job she always did
Wow amazing, great job filming this!!!😀
Nice video, fun to see just how massive that DDA40X is, had to take a second glance and see that...
Those are some nice shots! I'll be trying to see the consist when it's in Iowa, hopefully I can catch it!
You can catch it easy. Train is going no more than 20 MPH.
Wow, a lot of cool stuff on one train! 👍
Great chase and catch, Tom. Too bad they won't be in Cheyenne anymore.
Thanks for sharing.👍👍👍
Yes a little sad to see so much going. The old round house will be pretty much empty now.
It does however clear space for the steam crew.
Why not in Cheyenne anymore
@@PatrickDoran2319 all thats left in there now is UP 4-8-4 FeF 838
I believe 3985 and 5511 will eventually return to Cheyenne after they're restored, but of course they won't be home for several years until then.
I am from Dekalb. Great to see the CNW on the end. 🙂 Part of my childhood was watching those green and yellow locomotives ramble back and forth as they crossed the middle of town. UP is awesome too.
My Dad grew up in Iowa, where the CNW, the UP and the Rock Island ruled supreme. He vividly remembers the Rock Island especially, and IIRC he actually a close call as a teenager with one of their big red diesels when he got a piece of farm equipment stuck on a crossing, just barely managing to get it off the tracks in time (this was around 1970). It's great to see these old trains brought back, too bad the CNW and RI couldn't survive as lines though.
Tom, this amazing as earlier this morning I was wondering how you were doing, and what you were doing. Thank you for this great video. God Bless!
Gary been doing well. Just been busy riding the rails. Glad I caught this one!
Nice to see these historical engines and coaches running on the main line again,which will be restored and return to operation.And I believe the best way to preserve a historical train is to bring her back to life!
别说蒸汽了，国内啥时候能停止暴力拆车，把韶山1、老东风、6K、8K什么的修复一下动态保存我就谢天谢地了
I STRONGLY SECOND IT AND SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN HAULING POSITION ON RAIL ROADS.
That would have been so incredible to be riding in the cab.
4:09 … perfect study shot!! Light was excellent. Terrific work mate. Thanks for the video.
Good to see what the transfer train looked like en route. I can remember, as a kid, climbing into the cab of 5511 in the Green River roundhouse.
This is so beautiful and up 2-10-2 finally rolled on the mainline
What a stunning bit of filming 4:08ff. Keep up the great work 😊
This might be the coolest video I have ever seen
Thanks so much for sharing this!
Thank You , Thank You Tom...Really awesome🙂
Thank you.
This was an awesome video!!! Great catch. 👍🏻🎥💯
Thank you.
@@travelingtom923 you’re welcome sir.
I like 4014, but I’ve always preferred 3985. Can’t wait to see it steaming again in the future!
Is that a Big Boy also?
@@broncodaddy46507no it's a Challenger
@broncodaddy46507 you idiot, it's a challenger
Got to see #3985 challenger several times inThe 90s. Awesome sight it was. I was living in Vegas at the time. It was very impressive to say the least.
Fantasic shots Tom , great for us U.K American train watchers. these loco`s are so big compared to British locos thank you for sharing.
Just beautiful nothing else describes it
i always asked myself whatever happened to the challenger until this video its good to see it as its still around like the 844 and Big Boy and of course 5511
UP really stepped up their restoration efforts over the past 10 years
I wish I had been there! To see 5511 move for the first time since Last of the Giants was filmed would've been priceless.
This looks like it's the same stretch of line from the video "UP Challenger #3985 + 143 Freight Cars", if it is it's great to see it back on familiar territory. And of course always superb news that steam locos are being restored for a new generation people to experience!
Yes same spot.
Just glorious! Start to finish! And your cinematography! Oh, my! Thank you!
I would love to see that Chicago northwestern f unit fully functioning again with its beautiful colors that'd be amazing
CNW colors
An E and an F unit, you'll notice.
Yeah spotted that and wondered what if was doing so far from home. Locally they redid a bunch of the MetroNorth diesels in the original New Haven livery. Are beautiful.
The E unit has been completely gutted and is now a shell. If they can find a way to turn it into a locomotive, it will be good seeing it run with Milwaukee 32A if painted as such. The CNW unit is going to the Boone and Scenic Valley; while I’m not sure what they will do, I’m also hopeful that it will be restored.
A long road to restoration and back in service.
It’s a sad thought that UP isn’t gonna have a Centennial anymore. One of my favorite diesels. It is good it’s going somewhere instead of scrapping it though.
Amazing scenes, beautiful in all respects.I should say beautiful mechanical giant snakes.The sound of those diesels is just exciting and sweet to the ear.
How wonderfull it is to see old puffer bellies headed for restoration instead of the scrap yard !
Excellent coverage!
Up in northern Minnesota there are 3 Yellowstone's (2-8-8-4), all within 35 miles of each other and known for pulling some of the heaviest ore trains ever recorded. As much as I like to see any steam locomotive restored for posterity, it would be gratifying to see one of those Yellowstone's restored to operating condition, especially No.225, which is kept outside exposed to the elements.
Yes I agree! I am surprised nobody has even talked about restoring a Yellowstone.
I would love to see one of three surviving Yellowstones running again since Big Boy 4014 was reaquired by UP in 2013!
Caje1962 Indeed, that would be great to see one of those restored to operational status.
Were Yellowstones Mallets? True “compound” articulated engines?
Also, did UP ever have that class of engine on their roster?
@@turkfiles No. Although Yellowstones are Mallets and ran between 40 and 45 mph (though it's not bad, it's just a same speed as the NS steam excursions speed restrictions), but they're simple Articulateds.
@@turkfiles The DM&IR RR Yellowstone was a "simple" articulated locomotive designed by ALCO and first used on the Northern Pacific railroad in 1928. I am not aware of UP ever using this type of wheel arrangement: UP favored their Challengers (4-6-6-4) and Big Boys (4-8-8-4). My late father used to refer to these giant locomotives as "Mallets", although a true Mallet is a "compound" locomotive.
Great catch. You don't see stuff like this, everyday.
Were the string of revenue cars for additional braking power? If not, crafty how Uncle Pete eased the expense of this overhead move by adding a few revenue cars!
Thanks for documenting and sharing with us this historic move. Excellent videography, Tom.
That's what I was curious to know, your guess is better than mine!
Pretty sure that’s what they are for, or could be being transported somewhere else
Wow. Thanks for this information here. I had thought that 3985 was permanently retired. I'm really glad it's going to be restored along with 5511.
It IS permanently retired from UP. The museum will handle it going forward, not UP.
Nice videos, Tom...thanks from Darrell an "Original Transcon RR" fan. 😀
I live about a half mile north of those tracks, I can't believe I missed it! Very cool
The moment I see 5511 and Challenger fully restored to operation, boy I’m gonna go to my family and say “The Union Pacific steam team is back!”
Ah.. Nothing tops the Overland Route. Great catch as always!
So beautiful! I has brass steam engines in past. Us steam is incredible
I would love to see all the steam and diesel locomotives back in perfect running shape again.
the amount of prep work to get these old girls going again must have been huge
Probably a few months.
Something else ! Something very special ! Great filming and editing too.
That low evening sun creates real magic pictures.
I was just as impressed to see a DDA-40X out on the main line. A noble beast if there ever were such a thing!
I don’t know why, but the shot at 4:09 reminds me so much of the I Love Toy Trains videos I used to watch as a kid. Gonna have to go try and pull it off myself now. Great vid!
Nice job! This is a great video!
i cant wait to see 3985 and 4014 together in a double header
just think in a few years we will have the "big 3", 4014, 3985 and 844. the 3 most iconic UP locos all be operational. the fact the 5511 will be too is just icing on the cake.
Excellent video and catches.
Thank you Union Pacific
Big Boy 4014 actually deserves to have both of his brothers back
Quite the chase you put in. Loved seeing the DD40X on the move, the steamers were awesome. But the DD was great, thanks for putting in the time and the miles to share this
The thought of seeing 3985 and 4014 running together at some point possibly... that makes me a little excited. That it's even a possibility is even more amazing.
How bout a triple header? 844,3985, and 4014
@@ghosttrain312 THe power output would be insane.
Great video.
Thanks for sharing it Tom!
A little sad 6936 is donated but at least it is still operational. The other one I know is at ILM in Union, Illinois that is in far worse shape and doesn't have operational prime movers but the unit can be run with other equipment since the cab controls and traction motors still work or so I'm given to understand. I saw 3985 during its trip to the Twin Cities in Minnesota but hopefully all of these gets some restorative love.
Oh wow! This is fantastic. Thanks
Glad you enjoyed it.
Yeah your back I miss you it has been 3 months your back
Im glad these locomotives are going to be restored
I hope there will be restoration, but I'm still sad to see 3985 leave UP. Fond memories of running with her.
I will never fathom the power of a locomotive engine.
I loved seeing 4014 run again, but it was sad to see that the instant people saw it, everyone forgot all about the Challenger. It's like having a favorite kid.
Even though I'm Aussie this still is very pleasing to me
What a unique perspective on both the old guard and the newer lions rolling down the rails. 🎉