I have them both, my arc lives in my edc pouch for after work and my surge lives on my belt at work. For context I work on heavy civil construction- bridges, roads & trains or subways as a supervisor I’m walking around large sites constantly. The surge gets me out of a pinch on a daily basis and keeps me from walking miles back to the tool shed or work truck for a random quick task. Love the video X keep up the good work! 🫡🦅🇺🇸
The surge specific pocket clip makes a huge difference. I removed the lanyard loop on my surge to allow space on the opposite side of the surge for the pocket clip so that the orientation is correct for tip up, right hand carry.
I am a Leatherman Surge girl. I use it on the farm daily. I do have to sharpen the knife, but I usually have another knife as someone is always borrowing one from me as well. It's come in handy when I have literally picked up work at trade shows I am attending when people need help putting up and tearing down their booths and it does great with zip ties and screwing together the stands and I do it as fast as a man with a drill and they can't believe it. Cuts strings on hay. Fixes vacuums in the home. Puts door knobs on. Once my kids doctor even came out to find me fixing their desk in the lobby while they were waiting because I still had my tool on me. . .desk was driving me nuts!!! Aftermarket parts for a screwdriver insert that holds the tiny glasses screwdriver, but I also have a glasses screwdriver in my home. Wear on my belt or in my pokey things pocket in my overalls on the pocket clip. After 6 years of use I have zero problems with opening the Surge with one hand and opening the knife with one hand, even in work gloves. I like being able to use the Surge and get the tools with my gloves still on. It has never opened or hurt me when on my belt or in my overalls with the tools on the inside when I have come off of a horse. Never snagged on anything or wrecked clothes or fencing.
@@warlantactical Nope, but I could with all the things I end up using it for both around the farm and inside the house as well. Love my Surge and have it engraved.
I have the Leatherman Skeletool and the Charge + G10 and for my uses the saw has been extremely useful out here in the country. I'm looking for another to place on my duty belt, this has been helpful, thank you!
I carry the Surge every day the LM nylon holster with the full bit kit, the LM ratchet driver and the DeWalt double ended sockets on its driver 1/4 5/16 3/8 7/16. I work in a 10 building complex on a federal property. It allows me to do repairs without bringing a full tool cart
I have a Mut and love how strong it feels. My dad’s original Wave has given me when I squeeze the handles when the players are open. The Mut has zero play. I’m curious of the Surge has zero play as well? I only want a multi tool with zero play. Thanks!
Surge is my go to for heavy duty, shit hits the fan, apocalypse multi tool...one and done. I also own the Arc Obsidian, its basically a weekend edc multi-tool for dads. Surge currently lives in my 4runner and has gotten me out of plenty of mishaps.
Surge decimates the Arc all the way around. I've never had a Surge fail on me. I've had two Arcs fail though, which sucks because I thought the Arc would be a better version of my beloved Charge
@@kunello2 wire cutters broke on fence wire (which even my Gerber tools with carbide cutters go through like butter), frames flexed like crazy, and the blades wouldn't hold or take an edge
The “pry bar” flat head on the surge is tuff but no way a pry bar. I snapped it prying something open. I used a lot of force but it did snap. The warranty got me an another. I carried it since it came out only replaced it with the roxon flex. I used belt clip and sheath over the years and like both carries. Weight would be the only issue now, but if I know I need something robust and tough, surge all the way. I’m sure the arc is everything, but I can’t justify 230plus (not on sale) on a tool I’d be afraid to abuse. That said I’m a new subscriber, and enjoying your content.
With the arc you get that one hand opening motion and there’s so much customization it’s crazy! But the downside is it’s overpriced and you can pretty much get a surge with all of the goodies like the bits/driver and the sheath for like the same price so it really comes down to do you really need magna cut on your blade and do you really need it to open one handed? I carry so many different folders now I’m starting to feel like as much as I want to buy the arc, I might just buy the charge or something a little cheaper and buy the bundle so I get more of my moneys worth
😂 it is indeed very easy - non off them 🎉 // as german having one hand opening knives is a nono.. would love to see a europe version off the arc with a non locking blade.
I still feel Leatherman is...missing the mark? They never seem to have the exact tools I want - and are usually more tools off the mark than other multi-tool carrying tools (pick any brand, SAK to direct competitors of Leatherman). A multi-tool is ideal companion for those in the tech field from my experience, and I carry a Wave+ my wife gifted me last Christmas, and it's frustratingly off in the toolset some days. Drop the serrated blade and the saw for the more substantial scissors and tool exchanger and replace the mini scissors in the internal space with the awl and it's basically the perfect midweight, general purpose multitool. The blade grind is weird, but workable when it's mainly used for packaging. Your point on the blade shape does make me realize they got that correct on the Arc - that shape with a thumb stud should become the standard on all their stuff moving forward. I also think their medium-sized flat screwdriver could use a bit of reworking to make the edge a bit thinner so it's easier to wedge into stuff you're working with (in my common use-case, electronics that have metal shells - stuck access panels murder your fingers whether it's a full-sized tower or a micro PC).
If you ACTUALLY use your multi tool, the ARC beats them all. The ability to do everything one handed makes it so easy. I tried to go back to others. It makes you realize how good it is.
You must do pretty light work. I had two Arcs. Neither one inspired much confidence on the ranch, at work, or working on the motorcycle. Major frame flex when using the drivers, awl, and pliers, blades wouldn't take or hold an edge because the heat treat is too soft, and 3 sets of wire cutters broke on fence wire which even Gerber's carbide cutters cut like butter. The Obsidian's scissors also wouldn't even cut thread. I'll take my P4, Surge, OHT, or Charge over the Arc any day
@@dualsportoutdoors I mean do you also baton with a folder? 🤔. A Surge is definitely more suited for more robust work. But I wouldn't exactly carry that for EDC. To each their own. I prefer the ARC for single hand and ease of use.
@@SMS2884 I have batoned a folder in a survival situation when I foolishly went into the woods without my fixed blade because I thought I'd be fine since I was only going to be out for an hour. The Spyderco PM2 I carried that day still functions fine. That being said, I don't generally baton folders. I save that for my fixed blades and even then it's only usually light batoning for making notches. I'd rather use my Mora hatchet or my CRKT Woods Kangee tomahawk
STAY AWAY from Leatherman. I paid them $240 for an Arc and paid extra to engrave my name on it, only to get the item and it looks like the engraving was done by a 3 year old. When I called them, they were snooty and only offered the $12 engraving fee back. The item is horrible looking with the engraving, as is their customer service.
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I have them both, my arc lives in my edc pouch for after work and my surge lives on my belt at work. For context I work on heavy civil construction- bridges, roads & trains or subways as a supervisor I’m walking around large sites constantly. The surge gets me out of a pinch on a daily basis and keeps me from walking miles back to the tool shed or work truck for a random quick task. Love the video X keep up the good work! 🫡🦅🇺🇸
-Surge for work
-Arc for not at work
Happy 249th birthday Devil Dog! Semper Fi
Arc is jewelry, Surge is the Tank and King.
The surge specific pocket clip makes a huge difference. I removed the lanyard loop on my surge to allow space on the opposite side of the surge for the pocket clip so that the orientation is correct for tip up, right hand carry.
I am a Leatherman Surge girl. I use it on the farm daily. I do have to sharpen the knife, but I usually have another knife as someone is always borrowing one from me as well. It's come in handy when I have literally picked up work at trade shows I am attending when people need help putting up and tearing down their booths and it does great with zip ties and screwing together the stands and I do it as fast as a man with a drill and they can't believe it. Cuts strings on hay. Fixes vacuums in the home. Puts door knobs on. Once my kids doctor even came out to find me fixing their desk in the lobby while they were waiting because I still had my tool on me. . .desk was driving me nuts!!!
Aftermarket parts for a screwdriver insert that holds the tiny glasses screwdriver, but I also have a glasses screwdriver in my home.
Wear on my belt or in my pokey things pocket in my overalls on the pocket clip.
After 6 years of use I have zero problems with opening the Surge with one hand and opening the knife with one hand, even in work gloves.
I like being able to use the Surge and get the tools with my gloves still on.
It has never opened or hurt me when on my belt or in my overalls with the tools on the inside when I have come off of a horse. Never snagged on anything or wrecked clothes or fencing.
@@blackdandelion5549 you wrote a novel
@@warlantactical Nope, but I could with all the things I end up using it for both around the farm and inside the house as well. Love my Surge and have it engraved.
@@blackdandelion5549 you wrote do much you should be a blogger
Leatherman did state that they produced 5000 obsidian models
Lol
I have the Leatherman Skeletool and the Charge + G10 and for my uses the saw has been extremely useful out here in the country. I'm looking for another to place on my duty belt, this has been helpful, thank you!
I wish I got a G10 charge back in the day
i love using the AWW on my tool
I carry the Surge every day the LM nylon holster with the full bit kit, the LM ratchet driver and the DeWalt double ended sockets on its driver 1/4 5/16 3/8 7/16. I work in a 10 building complex on a federal property. It allows me to do repairs without bringing a full tool cart
No multi tool will beat the surge
Surge is in its own class
The need to add the miniscrewdriver to the surge like on the wave plus. I bought an aftermarket miniscrewdriver and added it to my surge
I have a Mut and love how strong it feels. My dad’s original Wave has given me when I squeeze the handles when the players are open. The Mut has zero play. I’m curious of the Surge has zero play as well? I only want a multi tool with zero play.
Thanks!
Ive been using the surge for 10 years and still going, the awl broke but everything else is going strong 👍
Surge is my go to for heavy duty, shit hits the fan, apocalypse multi tool...one and done. I also own the Arc Obsidian, its basically a weekend edc multi-tool for dads. Surge currently lives in my 4runner and has gotten me out of plenty of mishaps.
So the arc isn’t all that durable then?? I love the idea of one handed opening and don’t know which one to get (I don’t have either)
@LostTrailX arc is easier for one handed opening. But they all basically have the same tools. Surge is heavy too if you plan to carry it on you.
Surge decimates the Arc all the way around. I've never had a Surge fail on me. I've had two Arcs fail though, which sucks because I thought the Arc would be a better version of my beloved Charge
I'm a Surgelover, my Surge is extremely strong. Good for me in the trades.
Surge hands down is the best and trusted tool that you can actually use
Out of curiosity, how did your Arcs fail?
I just actually returned my Arc for a Charge+TTi so sounds like I dodged a bullet
@ pliers break apparently because everyone that buy a multitool think its and can be used like a Milwaukee lol
Multi tools are for light work only
@@kunello2 wire cutters broke on fence wire (which even my Gerber tools with carbide cutters go through like butter), frames flexed like crazy, and the blades wouldn't hold or take an edge
The “pry bar” flat head on the surge is tuff but no way a pry bar. I snapped it prying something open. I used a lot of force but it did snap. The warranty got me an another. I carried it since it came out only replaced it with the roxon flex. I used belt clip and sheath over the years and like both carries.
Weight would be the only issue now, but if I know I need something robust and tough, surge all the way.
I’m sure the arc is everything, but I can’t justify 230plus (not on sale) on a tool I’d be afraid to abuse.
That said I’m a new subscriber, and enjoying your content.
🔝What multi tool do I think is best🔝
With the arc you get that one hand opening motion and there’s so much customization it’s crazy! But the downside is it’s overpriced and you can pretty much get a surge with all of the goodies like the bits/driver and the sheath for like the same price so it really comes down to do you really need magna cut on your blade and do you really need it to open one handed? I carry so many different folders now I’m starting to feel like as much as I want to buy the arc, I might just buy the charge or something a little cheaper and buy the bundle so I get more of my moneys worth
Just switch straight and serrated blade places and solve your first world problem.
The surge is definitely scissor worthy ✂️
I’m a firefighter and I carry a Letherman arc everyday and on calls.
Just ordered leatherman arc for 176$. Thanks Leatherman for 30% off❤️😀
How? I just checked the website and it’s not discounted
@@hanselgamez1342He got the emergency worker/education/ military discount
@@hanselgamez1342 probably through the discount program for students, first responders, medical and teachers
@@hanselgamez1342 First responders, military personnel and medical personnel have an annually reusable 30% off coupon on the Leatherman site.
😂 it is indeed very easy - non off them 🎉 // as german having one hand opening knives is a nono.. would love to see a europe version off the arc with a non locking blade.
Mfer said 'al-yoo-minium' 😆
I still feel Leatherman is...missing the mark? They never seem to have the exact tools I want - and are usually more tools off the mark than other multi-tool carrying tools (pick any brand, SAK to direct competitors of Leatherman).
A multi-tool is ideal companion for those in the tech field from my experience, and I carry a Wave+ my wife gifted me last Christmas, and it's frustratingly off in the toolset some days. Drop the serrated blade and the saw for the more substantial scissors and tool exchanger and replace the mini scissors in the internal space with the awl and it's basically the perfect midweight, general purpose multitool. The blade grind is weird, but workable when it's mainly used for packaging.
Your point on the blade shape does make me realize they got that correct on the Arc - that shape with a thumb stud should become the standard on all their stuff moving forward. I also think their medium-sized flat screwdriver could use a bit of reworking to make the edge a bit thinner so it's easier to wedge into stuff you're working with (in my common use-case, electronics that have metal shells - stuck access panels murder your fingers whether it's a full-sized tower or a micro PC).
@@ewdijkstra7627 get a surge its the best
Surge is work edc
Surge wins hands down
If you ACTUALLY use your multi tool, the ARC beats them all. The ability to do everything one handed makes it so easy. I tried to go back to others. It makes you realize how good it is.
I have literally had that same experience. When I went back it definitely made me realize how convenient the Arc is!
You must do pretty light work. I had two Arcs. Neither one inspired much confidence on the ranch, at work, or working on the motorcycle. Major frame flex when using the drivers, awl, and pliers, blades wouldn't take or hold an edge because the heat treat is too soft, and 3 sets of wire cutters broke on fence wire which even Gerber's carbide cutters cut like butter. The Obsidian's scissors also wouldn't even cut thread. I'll take my P4, Surge, OHT, or Charge over the Arc any day
@@dualsportoutdoors I mean do you also baton with a folder? 🤔. A Surge is definitely more suited for more robust work. But I wouldn't exactly carry that for EDC. To each their own. I prefer the ARC for single hand and ease of use.
@@SMS2884 I have batoned a folder in a survival situation when I foolishly went into the woods without my fixed blade because I thought I'd be fine since I was only going to be out for an hour. The Spyderco PM2 I carried that day still functions fine. That being said, I don't generally baton folders. I save that for my fixed blades and even then it's only usually light batoning for making notches. I'd rather use my Mora hatchet or my CRKT Woods Kangee tomahawk
@@dualsportoutdoors there is actually a technique where can baton with a folder. I believe survival dispatch showed it.
You claim to care about the American measurements but say aluminum like a British person? Who's side are you on!? 😂 JK great video!
America 😂
STAY AWAY from Leatherman. I paid them $240 for an Arc and paid extra to engrave my name on it, only to get the item and it looks like the engraving was done by a 3 year old. When I called them, they were snooty and only offered the $12 engraving fee back. The item is horrible looking with the engraving, as is their customer service.
Surge is King 👑 last real leatherman they did... all the rest is way lgbt for me. But hey, everybody do what they want. But surge is Heavy Duty S^%€
THE LEATHERMAN FREE SERIES INCLUDING THE ARC, ARE FOR PU55Y5 !!!
@@tarsicioamaral1356 how many do you have of them ?
Are you stupid?