Is The Leatherman ARC Trash or The Holy Grail?

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    00:00 A True Test
    01:13 Why The Big Price Tag?
    04:19 How About The Magnacut?
    08:10 Will The Cutters Break?
    14:45 The Hard Truth
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  • @gideonstactical
    @gideonstactical  7 месяцев назад +16

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    • @laptoples
      @laptoples 6 месяцев назад

      Pretty disappointed !!!
      The best Leatherman is The Dark Side !!!!
      It at least has 2 new items.
      A PEN and TWEEZERS !!!!!!!
      They sold out in seconds so nobody got one.
      I've been hounding them to do something like that again.
      This is The Wave with better metal.
      The Dark Side is the wave with a pen and tweezers, which I would personally use all the time.
      Bug Leatherman to make that again !!!!!
      Make it with this nice metal and design, that'd be great, but it's gotta have everything we see here with the pen and tweezers.
      Otherwise, I rarely look at the Leatherman site.
      Nothing THAT new and innovative...
      At least to spend over 200 bucks on when my wave has everything you see here.
      :-/

    • @rickacton7540
      @rickacton7540 Месяц назад

      "may thy cutters chip and shatter" lol

  • @Cflem44
    @Cflem44 7 месяцев назад +165

    Ive had a Wave+ for a few years and decided to upgrade to the Arc. So far ive seen a huge benefit to the Arc when trying to use the outside accessable scissors and one handed deployment of the bit driver and prybar. Not having to open the pliers to get to those extra tools saves a bunch of time and fiddling. Essentially a Wave+ with an improved user interface, I have been very happy so far with the purchase.

    • @vgman94
      @vgman94 7 месяцев назад +19

      “Saves a bunch of time and fiddling.” Any product that reduces your work time is more valuable than people give credit for. Time is more precious than money, so whatever saves you time is worth its weight in gold.

    • @DNMEBOY
      @DNMEBOY 7 месяцев назад +5

      Im still trying to break the habit of opening the pliers to access the tools. I also made the switch from the Wave+.

    • @thomagg
      @thomagg 7 месяцев назад +4

      I’m the same, have had a couple Waves over the last 2 decades and this is basically an improved version of that for me. To make it nearly perfect for me at work I’d like to get the full bit kit to assemble my most useful set, an improved sheath I can carry horizontally (miss the one from my old Wave) and if they would only stock the ratcheting extender again…

    • @thomagg
      @thomagg 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@DNMEBOYI’m having the same learning curve. I got it specifically for the external one handed tools, but still forget that’s where they are

    • @rickyricardo3551
      @rickyricardo3551 7 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@DNMEBOYsame , I've popped open the pliers a few times to get to the bit driver lol.

  • @HughPecon
    @HughPecon 7 месяцев назад +61

    The Arc is basically the Wave+ on steroids. Being able to access all the tools one handed is a game changer. My Surge will still be my edc for work but after work its gonna be the Arc.

    • @AtomicBleach
      @AtomicBleach 7 месяцев назад +4

      I honestly have no problem one handing all the tools on my wave. It's loose enough to flick it and it opens up like butterfly knife... I do get the all outside tool advantage, but some tools seem to be made strangely to work with the magnets like the strippers on the awl.

    • @eduardsiger1860
      @eduardsiger1860 7 месяцев назад +3

      @@AtomicBleachyeah the tool set on the arc sucks

    • @kennywheelus6857
      @kennywheelus6857 6 месяцев назад

      I just ordered my Arc a few days ago and can't wait to get it in my hands an try it out,not sure if I wan to void the warranty an swopp out the bit exchanger to the half size an 1/4 size like next level edc did an make it more versatile an not have to worry about the Leatherman prepritory bits,just wondering,cause it costs a bit of money so I'm still not sure I wanna void my warranty in case I don't like it an it breaks on me,I already got it customized engraved with my name on it an a Kool pattern too.

    • @TheHyde8875
      @TheHyde8875 5 месяцев назад +2

      Nah. It's more like the Wave+ on creatine.

    • @kennywheelus6857
      @kennywheelus6857 5 месяцев назад

      @@TheHyde8875 , yeah I agree,I love my new Arc

  • @user-dy4ps5hn1w
    @user-dy4ps5hn1w 7 месяцев назад +7

    The biggest problem I can see for me it the magnetic operation of the tool. I’m a millwright and welder/fabricator. If I put the arc on my work bench the internal magnets will get completely covered in metal grindings/filings the second I put it down. Also all my pants and coat pockets become imbedded with small metal filings. It’s not noticeable until u put something magnetic in your pocket (think AirPod case) and everything becomes covered in filings that are hard to clean off

  • @maxlvledc
    @maxlvledc 7 месяцев назад +21

    ABOUT THE CUTTERS..
    I have some updates after I broke mine on camera.
    Leatherman reached out to me regarding these cutters. They will be sending me a new set (no need to send back tool). They mentioned they found a batch with bad heat treatment that is not up to spec.
    So on one hand, it's good to see Leatherman is on it. On the other hand I still don't understand the design change that causes the gap. I've heard from many others that this gap will also create incomplete cuts in things like wire ties etc.
    Will do a follow up at some point. It's really good to see yours hold up!
    Cheers,
    Dominic

  • @MrSixxshooter
    @MrSixxshooter 7 месяцев назад +11

    Swiss tool or Swiss tool spirit MXBS . Both I would suggest first .

  • @ringaleavo
    @ringaleavo 7 месяцев назад +37

    I think this makes the Wave look like a really good value. $50.00 plus tax on fleabay for a new one in the clam shell pkg

    • @gideonstactical
      @gideonstactical  7 месяцев назад +4

      Haha definitely 👍

    • @ericschleppegrell4467
      @ericschleppegrell4467 7 месяцев назад +6

      The wave is a better tool all around. Of course my wave is 20 years old so maybe the quality was better then. I'm returning my arc tomorrow. What a disappointment for a $230 tool!

    • @kellypainter7625
      @kellypainter7625 7 месяцев назад

      It doesn't. If you get a new Wave, the cutters will suck.

    • @stephenmackey4571
      @stephenmackey4571 7 месяцев назад +2

      Wave all day long and worth every cent.

  • @zachd150
    @zachd150 7 месяцев назад +6

    Wire test was perfect valdation of the tool, thanks Aaron. That's exactly how I want an edc hand tool to perform: just strong enough to handle my full strength, but not much more to be overly heavy or bulky.

  • @PMCKnivesAndTools
    @PMCKnivesAndTools 7 месяцев назад +12

    They look great, but that price...

  • @js8828
    @js8828 7 месяцев назад +9

    with the 30% off on leatherman website paid 160 ( like 175 to my door) and for that USA made magnacut even forgetting about the rest of the tools seems like a pretty good deal

    • @vgman94
      @vgman94 7 месяцев назад +1

      Looking for a second hand Arc at around 150-160. At that price, for the one handed opening, blade and magnet (which can be considered an unofficial tool if you drop a small metal item), it’d be a fair price.

  • @stevenford5422
    @stevenford5422 7 месяцев назад +9

    I had a response from leatherman about cutters they said there engineering team immediately tested there current inventory to diagnose the cause. Through there tests, they found that some lots of replaceable wire cutters did not meet expectations. Said they will send me replacements.

    • @stevenm6301
      @stevenm6301 4 месяца назад

      Must be my issue. The ones on my charge crumbled.

  • @clandestinetactical
    @clandestinetactical 7 месяцев назад +9

    I’ve had a Wave for over 10 years…
    And I bought the Arc a week ago, the Arc is honestly an amazing tool … Magnacut, and just the easy access and dexterity on it makes it the best multi tool I’ve ever owned..

  • @roosamiam
    @roosamiam 7 месяцев назад +26

    On a side note about the price, if you are a veteran, check out the military discount at Leatherman. I actually bought the Arc for $160. I couldn't pass that up. Best military discount I've ever gotten i think. BTW, I love the Arc, and would have bought it at regular price eventually.

    • @gideonstactical
      @gideonstactical  7 месяцев назад +3

      Oh very nice info that for sharing!!

    • @thereisnowayiamgivingyoumy9066
      @thereisnowayiamgivingyoumy9066 7 месяцев назад +8

      Leatherman offers a 30% medical personnel discount as well

    • @Muscovy7
      @Muscovy7 7 месяцев назад

      @@thereisnowayiamgivingyoumy9066and teachers

    • @ValkyrieIA
      @ValkyrieIA 7 месяцев назад +4

      Thanks for the tip. Just ordered.

    • @user-dq3jk9py4q
      @user-dq3jk9py4q 7 месяцев назад +3

      Also a 30% teacher or school staff discount.

  • @weburnbridges
    @weburnbridges 7 месяцев назад +5

    Loved the comparison to knives made with similar materials. Great new view on the Arc I havent seen before.

  • @j.savage1228
    @j.savage1228 7 месяцев назад +11

    $100 more than the p2 honestly isn’t that bad for extra tools plus a coated Magnacut blade. If my P2 ever fails me I would gladly pay $230 for a good multitool.

    • @Errcyco
      @Errcyco 7 месяцев назад

      I kept reading that as PM2 and was like dang.. he really knows how to stretch a knife 😅

    • @danvird8649
      @danvird8649 7 месяцев назад

      @@Errcycome too 😂😂

  • @stevenbyington3493
    @stevenbyington3493 7 месяцев назад +9

    I’m going to wait to get an arc. The supertool 300 has everything I need on a daily basis and I feel incomplete without it.

    • @gideonstactical
      @gideonstactical  7 месяцев назад +4

      I love my supertool 300 I have one in each of my go bags.

  • @eyeofthetiger4184
    @eyeofthetiger4184 7 месяцев назад +7

    G'day Aaron, as an ex-sparkie, I've cut more "wire jerkers" aka coathangers, than I care to remember. Even a mid range pair of Linesman's Pliers will do that, and without deformation of the blade, or side to side flex.
    I do think multitools are interesting, so I'll still watch...... but you can get a lot of "proper" tools for far less dough. If i did have a need/want, I reckon, like many, the Wave + is the sweet spot for capability vs price. Cheers Duke

    • @gideonstactical
      @gideonstactical  7 месяцев назад +1

      Hahah right on Duke, definitely, you can get a good tool set for 230 bucks. I think it’s convenience for simple tasks over dedicated tools for work.

    • @eyeofthetiger4184
      @eyeofthetiger4184 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@gideonstactical Yep for sure mate, but everything is sooooooo small and often fiddly, not to mention ergo deficient, ...... they exceed my frustration tolerance ; )

  • @frogturtle
    @frogturtle 7 месяцев назад +15

    the one-handed operation is a huge benefit if you ask me, and that magnacut blade is just awesome. if I already owned a wave I probably wouldn’t see the need to buy the arc, but as my first full-size and fully-equipped multi-tool, the arc feels like a good choice. plus I am curious what mods will become available for it in the future

  • @jaydub5515
    @jaydub5515 7 месяцев назад +12

    I'm glad you brought up the sharpness of the handles when the tool is closed up. It's not that big of an issue for small uses, but I would definitely see it being a little bit of a irritation over prolonged use. And how long did it take you to get flicking your blade open in one smooth go? Days ago I just got my arc, and I think I've only successfully flick with the thumb stud once or twice, and I have scared myself by running my finger across the blade a couple times, and boy is that thing sharp outta the box.

    • @gideonstactical
      @gideonstactical  7 месяцев назад +1

      It is sharp for sure! That’s how mine operated out of the box. Maybe play around the pivots a little bit and see if you can loosen it up just a bit. It is a good blade.

    • @_WillCAD_
      @_WillCAD_ 7 месяцев назад +1

      Mine is similar; it's tight. I can't even flick it open with the thumb stud, let alone flip it open or closed. I might try adding a little lube to the pivots at some point, because the whole tool is a little stiff.
      My Free P4 is a little looser, but I can't flip its blade open, either.

  • @WhispyWoods.
    @WhispyWoods. 7 месяцев назад

    Thanks for the detailed review. Appreciate the data points. Does the Arc have the pokey parts that stick up when using the pliers like the Free series has?

  • @SpacecityEDC
    @SpacecityEDC 6 месяцев назад +9

    Good review Aaron 👍 I agree if someone else can justify laying down the money and the Arc fits what they need then yes it's worth it to them. As a lifelong mechanic I've spent tons of money on tools and have no problem buying a more expensive tool if..it helps me be more productive. But like you the Arc to me isn't going to help me be more productive than my tried and true Surge I've EDC'd for years. If I was going to swap to another multitool I would probably choose Gerber's Dual Force because as a mechanic by trade that pliers head on the Dual Force fits so many things I work on day to day. But hey if the Arc does it for you then it's worth it. Thanks for sharing!

  • @Mike_Y.
    @Mike_Y. 7 месяцев назад +8

    I prefer my Surge because you can interchange the file with other tools. And in a pinch you could actually sharpen the blades due to this.

    • @CanadianBeachcomber
      @CanadianBeachcomber 7 месяцев назад +3

      Monday, I did that to my Surge on my lunch break at work.

    • @gideonstactical
      @gideonstactical  7 месяцев назад +4

      Allow myself to sharpen myself

    • @Mike_Y.
      @Mike_Y. 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@gideonstactical hahaha rad

    • @Mike_Y.
      @Mike_Y. 7 месяцев назад +2

      @@CanadianBeachcomber thats rad, now i dont feel so self conscious about my comment hahaha

  • @Stassa23
    @Stassa23 7 месяцев назад +2

    I did the same exact test with my Arc on a RUclips short and I didn’t have any issues either, so far so good 👌

  • @j-g.s4894
    @j-g.s4894 6 месяцев назад +5

    Received mine a few weeks ago after loosing my Wave. Had a second thought because of the price here in Europe (300$give or take)
    I had many occasions to use it for precise jobs ( thanks to the mini screwdriver) or more demanding using pliers, scissors ( far better than my wave), the amazing blade, the file on soft steel, the screw driver, almost every tool. I used to carry a SAK as edc, now it spend a lot of time in my drawer.
    In short, a great tool except that I’m left handed and opening the pliers one handed, is clearly not as easy for me than for a right handed user.
    I added a small flashlight to the sheet, an electric saw blade for steel (fits perfectly in the bit holder) and a bit extender for non leatherman bits.
    Didn’t regret my euros for a second

  • @CLa-wb5vj
    @CLa-wb5vj 7 месяцев назад +6

    To each their own, but I’d rather buy a wave+ and if I needed a stronger knife to pair with it, I’d get a small Esee or even a mora for less then the price of the new arc. I think leatherman jumped on the magnacut train a little too early.

  • @rendoughty
    @rendoughty 3 месяца назад

    Great review! Thank you!
    Like many of you, I've carried a one-hand-open pocketknife, clipped to my pocket, for years and years. I spent years as a coffee equipment technician and there were countless times I'd be holding something inside a machine with one hand and it was SO helpful to be able to open my knife with one hand, use it for the task, then close it and put it away with that same hand and keep working. It became a natural frequent motion.
    My wife and I are planning some touring through Canada and I can't imagine going through my days without a knife. I'll reach for it all the time. I read that in Canada they won't let you have knives that you can clearly open with one hand, so I'm hoping that this ARC is a happy medium. Even though you ~can~ open it with one hand, the knife has enough other purposes and its purpose in life isn't just being a one-hand-open pocketknife, so I hope it will be acceptable and fly under the radar. Thoughts?

  • @dualsportedc
    @dualsportedc 7 месяцев назад +7

    The hangers that are wrecking everyone's cutters are right about the same 12 gauge wire as the fence/baling wire that wrecked my cutters and the other guys'. That combined with the body flex and super dull blade have led me to email Leatherman to try and return the tool. Haven't gotten an email back and it's been a couple days. Definitely not pleased with the Arc at all. As far as I'm concerned, I spent $230 on a super cool looking paper weight because this thing is not going in my motorcycle's compact onboard tool kit. I'll just deal with the extra space my Surge takes up. Good to see yours held up better than mine though. No way in Hades am I trusting mine, which sucks because the tool kit is exactly what I need to work on the bike and also has a few tools that will help in the wilderness.

  • @Mike-mi3yw
    @Mike-mi3yw 7 месяцев назад +6

    I can see myself using this for most of my light duty uses. I think it’s worth it, and I’ll purchase one eventually…..after Christmas lol

  • @charlessalmond7076
    @charlessalmond7076 7 месяцев назад +1

    Excellent video sir! I dont know if ill take the plunge yet. I think ill give it a few months to see if any other issues come out and, if Leatherman fixes the replaceable cutters. Keep'em coming!

  • @raulbustamante8337
    @raulbustamante8337 7 месяцев назад +1

    Is a current date made leatherman bond still has the issue of the blade coming out a little before picking up friction or has that been fixed?

  • @Fightosaurus
    @Fightosaurus Месяц назад +1

    Thought I would agree with this until I EDC'd the Arc for a while. The Arc's one handed operation makes for a significantly more refined tool. On the job site, situational awareness and focus is *premium*. Being the guy who reaches one hand into his pocket and without even having to look down has the right tool selected by the time it's raised into his workspace is a BIG difference from being the guy that has to put down his coffee first and fumble with two hands and two eyes occupied for 10-15 seconds to get the right tool out. The Arc sets you up to be the first guy, not the second guy, and that's where I want to be.

  • @Mike-id8gu
    @Mike-id8gu 7 месяцев назад +3

    On cutting coat hangers...I'm really wondering what guage(s) of wire is fair in assessing a multi-tool? 🤷 I worked as an electrician for many years installing more than 3000+ load centers. There are many different types and guages of wires we use to wire a load center. I can share from experience that many professionally hardened tools from very reputable companies have broken cutting less ductile wire. In my thinking 12-2 awg. copper clad wire should be the maximum test. [Same argument for grabbing one's axe opposed to using my Esee 6 to chop down a 12 inch tree.] Since an electrician works primarily with either 14-2 or 12-2 awg. wire, a backup multi-tool should be able to cut these. Anything larger or stronger we graduated to various sized bolt cutters.

  • @tomfaranda
    @tomfaranda 7 месяцев назад

    Great review. Good comparison at ur opening between the arc and knives with magnacut blades.

  • @bravo_victor
    @bravo_victor 7 месяцев назад +1

    Your point in the beginning about cost vs. common “mid-range” knives makes a lot of sense.

  • @gtrul3s387
    @gtrul3s387 7 месяцев назад +13

    Nice honest review. People are kinda funny sometimes. They have no problem paying 160-180$ for a bugout made of plastic with a s30v blade but are also complaining about the Arc at 230$😅. I’m a knife enthusiast and for me,personally, 230$ for a tool i really enjoy everyday with a Magnacut blade is a decent price. If i had to only keep one LM it would be my surge tho. But i’m really enjoying my Arc. Time will tell if it’ll keep its place tho! Thanks for the video man!

    • @Lion_Hamza
      @Lion_Hamza 7 месяцев назад

      The Arc is in Switzerland 320 dollar's. Ridiculous.

    • @thanhthuoregonusa0514
      @thanhthuoregonusa0514 7 месяцев назад

      I agreed 👍

    • @gtrul3s387
      @gtrul3s387 7 месяцев назад

      @@Lion_Hamza euro prices are crazy on a lot of things from what i can see…

  • @AtomicBleach
    @AtomicBleach 7 месяцев назад +3

    Hope they release a poor mans Arc with like a D2 blade lol. Most of the time im just using the blade for skinning some wire or cut on a soft material. With the wave+ I mostly use the serrated blade for nastier tasks.

  • @InGratitudeIam
    @InGratitudeIam 7 месяцев назад +4

    Mine worked as expected. No issues with coat hanger wire and other treacherous obstacles.

    • @gideonstactical
      @gideonstactical  7 месяцев назад

      Good to hear. Sounds like it may be a bad batch

  • @IlmarBeekman
    @IlmarBeekman 7 месяцев назад +15

    The flex is totally normal. It’s part of how the frame is designed. If you are worried, don’t be. I’ve had a p4 in my pocket and have used it every day for 2 years with zero issues. Hard use at times. It’s very solid.

    • @cwsmith17
      @cwsmith17 7 месяцев назад +6

      Absolutely agree

    • @clandestinetactical
      @clandestinetactical 7 месяцев назад +3

      Straight up 💯 me too .. P4 , and now My Arc , both amazing tools ⚒️

  • @davidingram3281
    @davidingram3281 2 месяца назад +2

    Thanks for the review. Just ordered a replacement charge+ due to the serrated blade with hook. I use that hook all the time for safety reasons. My only gripe about the Charge+ is the lack of decent scissors. Those things are pretty wimpy - and the ones on the ARC look much better. I also agree that the aesthetics of the Charge+ blade is much better.

  • @Zach-cg7dw
    @Zach-cg7dw 7 месяцев назад

    Can you tell me who made your presentation mat seen in the video? Is it silicone?

  • @kellypainter7625
    @kellypainter7625 7 месяцев назад +1

    My Free P4 has USA stamped on it. It is seized up and needs to go back to Leatherman but I did harvest the good cutters off of it for my ARC. The ARC is awesome. The price is fine. MagnaCut, the diamond file, good scissors, the bit changer and all the tools are outside accessible... None of the other Leatherman tools have all that. The ARC retired my Charge TTi. Still love that though.

  • @merkyworks
    @merkyworks 7 месяцев назад

    I tightened the plier head pivots up but still swing free and that dramatically reduced the side handle flex.

  • @RobertKellett
    @RobertKellett 7 месяцев назад +4

    499 bucks here in Australia! I will continue to use my Surge 2.

    • @rustymac40
      @rustymac40 5 месяцев назад +1

      I just got the ARK and let me tell you...your Surge is better overall. I do like the ARK but my Surge isn't going anywhere.

  • @matthewtaylor3301
    @matthewtaylor3301 7 месяцев назад +2

    I've had mine for a few days, and I'm happy overall. I'd give it an 8.5/10. There is some play in the handles which I'm not fond of, and the wire cutter issue has me leary. Aside from that I'm happy with it.

  • @gpock8
    @gpock8 6 месяцев назад +1

    Maybe try in the middle of the cutter. there is seems to be more shaper and maybe there would be a crack.

  • @XtianApi
    @XtianApi 6 месяцев назад +1

    Great flashlight there. I have the orange head with a warm white led. Love mine. Also the e300s by the same company is great.

  • @rickyricardo3551
    @rickyricardo3551 7 месяцев назад +1

    I may have missed it in the video but its still worth a mention . But the plier head on the arc is the strongest they are made even stronger than the surge .

  • @pompeylad1977
    @pompeylad1977 2 месяца назад +1

    Great in-depth video, cheers mate from James in England 👍🏻

  • @frankmessina_43
    @frankmessina_43 7 месяцев назад +3

    Leatherman offers 30 percent off for police, fire, ems, vets, all
    First responders… got mine for like 170 shipped. To me that was a fair price and so far I love this tool.

  • @jaskiniamestwa
    @jaskiniamestwa 7 месяцев назад +5

    It’s funny that cutting hangers became an ultimate test to answer the trash/treasure question for this particular tool. 😂

    • @nickGEdc
      @nickGEdc 7 месяцев назад

      Right!!!! idk when the last time I was like oh man I need to cut this coat hanger… lmao I cut small wire at work that’s all I need it for it’s a perfect tool. Use wire snips if your going to cut thick wire.

    • @Oozy9Millimeetah
      @Oozy9Millimeetah 7 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@nickGEdc except that it wasn't a issue with old leathermans 🤷🏻‍♂️ it's dumb to make excuses for a company that has started to make it's products worse..

    • @nebulamask81
      @nebulamask81 7 месяцев назад +4

      @@nickGEdc I've cut through a coat hanger to make a tool to be able to fish a ring out of a friend's sink drain. Did it with my wave and it was fine. Tim Leatherman used to demo the old cutters by standing on them to cut through nails. Not that I'm recommend cutting nails, but that's not the point.
      If the new cutters can't cut through a coat hanger then the quality has plummeted vs being able to cut through a nail. Seeing as the user has to pay to replace them now (instead of them being covered under warranty) it would be nice to know if they're cheaping out on a part WE have to pay for.

    • @nickGEdc
      @nickGEdc 7 месяцев назад

      @@nebulamask81 agreed

  • @KeenanLacelle
    @KeenanLacelle 7 месяцев назад +1

    So excited to receive mine!!!

  • @escapetherace1943
    @escapetherace1943 7 месяцев назад +6

    Sticking with my wave+ lol.......

  • @edgaraquino2324
    @edgaraquino2324 6 месяцев назад +4

    Good,comprehensive review, thanks! I find that the Leatherman tools on your table are more workmanlike than the Arc...it may be "premium" but I think it is overated...imho, it is way too floppy, the magnets will attract too much gunk in a working environment & considering it is top of the line, there seem to be problems when it should be flawless....this appears to be endemic of LTG, as their QC seems to be non-existent....it is the reason why I haven't made further purchases as I really don't know if I will get a quality product or a dud....

  • @zhydari1
    @zhydari1 5 месяцев назад

    Did you need to adjust at all to get the knife to flick open from factory? I know most leatherman's require a break in period

  • @ronfry5851
    @ronfry5851 7 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks Aaron, once again great review😊

  • @isildurelendurion1822
    @isildurelendurion1822 7 месяцев назад +3

    American made and stamped Leatherman sideclip originally 30$

  • @justinariyan8590
    @justinariyan8590 7 месяцев назад +2

    I returned the arc the day I received it.

  • @NZComfort
    @NZComfort 7 месяцев назад +1

    I don’t know if I could justify the expense since I already own a P4…. Having said that, I would love one! Thank you for the vid!

  • @rafterh2181
    @rafterh2181 7 месяцев назад +1

    I dropped 300 on the Garage #5 which is basically an ARC. I have broke 2 sets of cutters! I have a P4 which I used hard for 2 yrs with no damage to cutters!

  • @neil7132
    @neil7132 5 месяцев назад +2

    Wish they (leatherman) would give us a steel upgrade options for their current products like the wave + and surge where we can upgrade the blade and scissor steel to 154 cm or magna cut. Bet those would sell like nuts. Those who want current gen tech that arc or free series uses can buy it and still cater the needs of those who require a much more robust multi tool design like super tool 300, wave + and surge. Everyone's happy

  • @EnnTomi1
    @EnnTomi1 Месяц назад +1

    i just wish they have a series we can just pick the tools we want to have on there.....i know ppl have been modding tools, but why not just from the factory if thats allow, if anything, that would be the easiest thing for them to do since they already have the detailed engineering drawing, and i am sure they try to reuse parts from other tools whenever they can......
    for now, i guess modding is still the only way to get a perfect arc for me.

  • @mikepodorski4272
    @mikepodorski4272 15 дней назад +1

    I recently switched from a Centerdrive to the Arc and love it. The ease of one hand operation and the blade make this top on my list. The pliers are FAR superior to the Centerdrive. The cutters on mine chipped with simple braded copper wire.
    Couple of thoughts.
    There may be play at the handles, but the jaws themselves have almost zero play, and that's really what counts. My centerdrive had significant play at the jaws, plus the bit holder kept the jaws from closing.
    The hanger or whatever your cutting should be done up from the gap at the base. That gap shouldn't be there, but it does fine if you avoid it.

  • @LaddGardner4
    @LaddGardner4 7 месяцев назад +2

    My Arc's cutters didn't fracture, but refused to cut cleanly. With the light coat-hangers (depicted first) you could "worry" the sections apart by contracting your fist, then bending the scored wire, but my surge would cut the same wire as fast as I pulled the trigger. Night and day difference. I replaced the Arc's cutters with the Surge's, and the Arc became a cutting beast. The Surge now cuts poorly. Leatherman should shoot new purchasers of the Arc a spare set of replacement cutters (hopefully old stock), without the bubble packaging and tool, and just throw itself on the mercy of the court. Something tells me they won't -- probably because they were unaware and don't have a healthy stock of hardened cutters -- but we'll see...

  • @jonathancamps9853
    @jonathancamps9853 7 месяцев назад +2

    Maybe one day when I need to burn a hole in my pocket. Lots of great features on this tool. I have my system dialed for much cheaper.

  • @Stucknthe80z
    @Stucknthe80z 7 месяцев назад +1

    Excellent review, just curious did you try to cut the coat hanger with the Wave or Charge?

  • @user-zu7ps2xc1h
    @user-zu7ps2xc1h 7 месяцев назад +2

    Nice to see Tommy the trail dog!

  • @ZenEngineer
    @ZenEngineer 7 месяцев назад

    Would I be able to swap the magnacut blade into my P4?

  • @WarriorStormz
    @WarriorStormz 7 месяцев назад +5

    GOD Bless You Brother

  • @wolfman2702
    @wolfman2702 7 месяцев назад +1

    I still rely on my old LM Rebar and don't have a problem using two hands to open it, it's a tool, not a quick draw weapon.

  • @shelp7858
    @shelp7858 7 месяцев назад +3

    the kershaw leek in magnicut is made in the US and is $100 on bladehq

    • @gideonstactical
      @gideonstactical  7 месяцев назад +2

      That’s a deal even though I don’t really like the Leek design.

  • @rudylacarl7975
    @rudylacarl7975 7 месяцев назад

    Yeah zero regrets in my book! Finally the tool to dethrone my free p2 as my most used edc MT🤙🏽 once again awesome vid man!

  • @appleztooranges
    @appleztooranges 7 месяцев назад +3

    As a follower of your channel, I decided to make a channel as well. Love your content. It’s crazy the price of the arc! I’m impressed you can shut it by Itself. I can’t do that yet!

    • @gideonstactical
      @gideonstactical  7 месяцев назад +2

      That is awesome!! Really appreciate it and I wish you all the best on your own channel and pray it grows.

  • @steventhomas5865
    @steventhomas5865 7 месяцев назад

    I have a December 21 surge that has the new style replaceable cutters and I still haven't shattered them.

  • @PoorWays
    @PoorWays 5 месяцев назад +1

    Hi Gideon, do you think the side to side flex could be from the plastic washers?

    • @gideonstactical
      @gideonstactical  5 месяцев назад

      I don’t think so, it’s a design thing.

  • @jayzuena
    @jayzuena 7 месяцев назад

    I have a charge that's about 20+ yrs old and has been in my pocket everyday, used to do farm chores, construction tasks, etc. It gets used almost everyday. Replaced the mini screwdriver with a rebar awl and has the old school 2 screwdriver bit holders instead of one. It's the ultimate multitool with a decent 154cm blade that's been resharpened hundreds of times. Wire cutters are used to cut thick bailing wire all the time without issue. Wouldn't trade it for anything.

  • @Jarrych83
    @Jarrych83 7 месяцев назад +2

    And those are replaceable cutters used on a ton of their products. You've always heard of the occasional set of those that sometimes break. But regardless. the set with the little divot at the bottom is the same style that came on my rebar from two years ago. I definitely looked at some vids that show a comparison and this looks the same as what I have. Could be wrong, but personally, I haven't had issues with cutting small nails, those long nails they use for tacking baseboard, or similar. I've also used the wirecutters for a ton of string trimmer cord, thicker twist ties, jute rope, and the occasional garden chicken wire and tomato cage types of things. No sweat. So if this is the direction they went in, and it sounds like they're the same cutters on the other Free pliers, it really must be an occasional heat treat issue. Hopefully they at least take the feedback on it for counting failure rate.

  • @jkon156
    @jkon156 6 месяцев назад +1

    I have a decent collection of leathermans going. I EDC my wave+, have for almost 6 years. Bond on my car key, supertool 300 in my work toolbox, rebar (with broken rounded wire cutters) lives in the garage. Gave my Free P2 to my father as a gift, and my fiance uses my Free T2 in her bag. As of today i have an ARC on the way. I am very excited for it to get here. I loved the Free Px platform, just couldnt get used to those odd screwdriver tools included there. I am very much preferential to the bit exchanger on the wave, or the one on the supertool. I feel like the ARC is just the perfect premium tool for me. I dont know if ill use it in my work as i deal with chemicals and metal shavings all day, hence the supertool and wave+. But for all other times the arc fits me extremely well. Never used the serrated blade, all still have factory fresh teeth.

  • @EriclesMH
    @EriclesMH 7 месяцев назад +6

    The plier cutter problem isn't only that some break, but the shape of them are rounded near the pivot, causing that gap making it more difficult to make cuts. Try other LM pliers, you'll see the others are way better. For me, the P4 is just fine. Magnacut is super cool, but I'd rather have a blade that's easier to sharpen than one with better edge retention.

    • @gingebrien2408
      @gingebrien2408 7 месяцев назад +3

      Magnacut is not difficult to sharpen. Snd you likely won’t have your do it much.

    • @MrSoup6029
      @MrSoup6029 7 месяцев назад +1

      Magnacut is amazingly easy to sharpen.

    • @EriclesMH
      @EriclesMH 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@gingebrien2408 how is it compared to 420hc? More difficult yeah?

    • @EriclesMH
      @EriclesMH 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@MrSoup6029 how is it compared to 420hc? More difficult yeah?

    • @rickyricardo3551
      @rickyricardo3551 7 месяцев назад

      Well the cutter isn't just an arc problem. Send in your p4 for warranty and they'll swap them for the new style cutter that are on the arc and every other recently made leatherman.

  • @troymanning3150
    @troymanning3150 5 месяцев назад +1

    I LOVE my P4….when you throw in those folders the price makes a lot more sense.

  • @JohnC29
    @JohnC29 7 месяцев назад +2

    I'm on my second Charge Titanium. I can't find my first one. I have an OG wave(no bit driver or replaceable wire cutters) Never had a problem. I'm not ready to upgrade to single handed operation or Magnacut. I have magnacut pocket knives: Deka, Native 5, and Tactile Maverick.

  • @michaelcarney2975
    @michaelcarney2975 5 месяцев назад +1

    The pliers on my leathermans keep breaking. The surge and the wave+

  • @barrybueler3356
    @barrybueler3356 6 месяцев назад +1

    Love my charge plus in titanium with an s30v definitely wanna give magnacut as well as the free magnetic system for a spin maybe after Christmas I’ll get one and use my charge in a bugout bag or Vice versa 🤷‍♂️

  • @erictrejo4333
    @erictrejo4333 3 месяца назад

    I use to cut fence wire with the leatherman surge.

  • @dallastrikker792
    @dallastrikker792 7 месяцев назад

    Man, I'd love to see a slow motion video of how you flick the Magnablade in and out! I CANNOT figure out how to do that, and have come close to cutting my thumb when I try! I'm sincere about learning the technique you have clearly mastered!😃

  • @B-leafer
    @B-leafer 2 дня назад

    Sooo glad,
    There's no hole in the blade!!!

  • @pawesedrowski6743
    @pawesedrowski6743 7 месяцев назад

    The price seems to be high at the first glance but please remember about the warranty that you pay for - you have 25 years and the multitool is basically replaced if something happens to it. Years ago I bought a Charge TTi Plus for about 600 PLN (right now it's 1150 PLN) and for that money I just got a third multitool a few days ago as I broke the previous ones. Does it work the same way with other producers?

  • @swissarmytenor
    @swissarmytenor 15 дней назад +1

    "Is the Leatherman ARC Trash...?" Good lord.

  • @jacksonhamlett6490
    @jacksonhamlett6490 7 месяцев назад +1

    It would be awesome if they made one of these the size of the surge

  • @Paul-gu2lv
    @Paul-gu2lv 5 месяцев назад +1

    I was going to upgrade, but I think I'll stick with my surge. I just wish they sold a blade upgrade separately.

  • @JediKnife
    @JediKnife 7 месяцев назад

    I’ve never handled the Arc but it looks super smooth when the handles are flipped open and especially that snappy opening and closing blade. Looks appealing but perhaps too heavy and/or bulky for pocket carry. Have zero interest of carrying anything on my belt.

  • @johnniewalker3134
    @johnniewalker3134 3 месяца назад +1

    I have the beefy Surge and my wire cutters are still good.

  • @NoNotThatPaul
    @NoNotThatPaul 6 месяцев назад

    How do you store your clothes?

  • @chrisreuther4546
    @chrisreuther4546 7 месяцев назад +2

    Love the price comparisons.....so important to keep things in perspective... and who then is off base? there are some companies out there that I feel are really running high prices that are tough to be justified.

    • @gideonstactical
      @gideonstactical  7 месяцев назад

      That is true too, but since 2020 all new designs seem to be 20%-40% more expensive.

  • @edcgearpocketknife
    @edcgearpocketknife 7 месяцев назад

    The way I look at it if you need to cut heavy steel or coat hanger. Use a pair of side cutters get the correct tool for the job. I own one and it cut just fine I won’t cut coat hangers.

  • @cexinu2
    @cexinu2 7 месяцев назад +1

    did you adjust anything to make the knife buttery smooth when you are opening it and closing it? Mine is not too smooth. Does it need the break in period? THanks

    • @gideonstactical
      @gideonstactical  7 месяцев назад +1

      That is how mine came, maybe mess with the pivot a little.

    • @papik1965
      @papik1965 4 месяца назад +1

      Hey same for me. Kinda scratching my head trying to figure out how blade can be so quickly deployed and closed like that? No way I can do it. My thumb sore from trying 😂. Any tips appreciated. Love the Arc though😊

    • @papik1965
      @papik1965 4 месяца назад +1

      And thanks Gideon!

  • @amedeoperri3571
    @amedeoperri3571 2 месяца назад +2

    Thank you for this honest review!

  • @toolinedc
    @toolinedc 7 месяцев назад +1

    Leatherman are fixing the issues about the cutters.

  • @Sheltowee1775
    @Sheltowee1775 7 месяцев назад +1

    I bought that flashlight you’ve got on the table based on your recommendation and video review. Super cool.

    • @gideonstactical
      @gideonstactical  7 месяцев назад

      Awesome!!! How is it holding up?

    • @Sheltowee1775
      @Sheltowee1775 7 месяцев назад

      @@gideonstactical I went camping for the second time in my life at 56. I live in Ky. Camped in Wyoming. Flashlight was great inside the tent.

  • @noktturnal
    @noktturnal Месяц назад +1

    I like mine, the only thing I wish it had was the changeable saw attachment blades. But for me.its the perfect tool. Very customized.

  • @jasonmiller9495
    @jasonmiller9495 3 месяца назад +1

    For an EDC the Arc is a one stop shop. I have it in my belt and note I don’t Dane my 17:56 Spyderco Manix taking up my right pocket