Montana Rail Link's SD70ace's Put to the Test

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  • Опубликовано: 5 дек 2019
  • A BNSF Coal train experiences a problem on Mullan Pass in April 2018.
    A brief description is in the video.
    Hope you enjoy, like comment and subscribe, Thanks For Watching!
    Video was taken by me, mtrrnick.
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  • @kenneycooper6199
    @kenneycooper6199 2 года назад +17

    I have to admit, those Montana Rail Link locomotives has the best sound when they're working and on full throttle.

  • @tulockthewerewolf9744
    @tulockthewerewolf9744 4 года назад +63

    Montana Rail Link has one of the nicest paint schemes

    • @TheSupradude26
      @TheSupradude26 3 года назад +1

      They have always been one of my favorite. Along with both the dark blue and silver and the older red white and blue both of BC Rail.

    • @stretchlimo7275
      @stretchlimo7275 3 года назад +1

      I agree MRL units look sharp👍🏼😎

    • @hughjardon5869
      @hughjardon5869 3 года назад +7

      And they keep their engines clean. Some of the dirtiest locomotives belong to UP. Hardly ever see a clean one.

    • @120alvarez
      @120alvarez 2 года назад

      I like BNSF best.

    • @franzbrunner499
      @franzbrunner499 2 года назад +1

      @@120alvarez yes, with the executive paint

  • @emd6452
    @emd6452 2 года назад +14

    "We ain't going to be able to do that..." EMD ..."hold my beer."

  • @stephenroberts4895
    @stephenroberts4895 3 года назад +23

    6:30 onwards, a fine demonstration of AC traction and its capabilities. WOW! Love it.

    • @TemplarKnight1177
      @TemplarKnight1177 2 года назад +3

      I believe I know the basics about AC and DC but how are they different in gaining traction?

    • @megadjc192
      @megadjc192 Год назад +2

      @@TemplarKnight1177 It all comes down to wheel control. You can only control the power input into a DC motor so the motor will speed up if the traction is broken and thus it acts like a drag car peeling out. An A/C motor can be speed controlled so that you can dynamically adjust RPM along with power to keep the wheels from breaking traction. It's a dance that has a feedback loop to tell the unit when the wheels are slipping. This feedback and dynamic control allows the motors to push the traction all the way up to the maximum limit allowed by the friction between the track and wheels. They are far more common now than back in the day mostly due to high power semiconductors allowing for extremely high power inverters (the units provided the variable frequency A/C to the motors). DC is more robust in terms of overload but the engineer must manually ride the throttle to prevent wheel slip whereas the A/C units can do it automatically.

  • @kenpalmer1965
    @kenpalmer1965 6 месяцев назад

    Although it was a bit of a challenge for them, they did indeed pass the test and got the train going again! Great video!

  • @bnsf8610
    @bnsf8610 4 года назад +21

    That SD70MAC on the rear was doing all the work

  • @edwardmajor2678
    @edwardmajor2678 Год назад +2

    Those EMD’s are major league impressive

  • @robertf3479
    @robertf3479 Год назад +3

    ElectroMotive Diesel (EMD) should include THIS in their sales campaigns, EMD locomotives doing what they do best ... after that crewman's "We can't do that."
    THIS is why I love railfanning EMD locomotives, they've never had "GIVE UP" as a throttle setting.

    • @yankeesforlife24
      @yankeesforlife24 Месяц назад

      Emd doesn’t exist or make locomotives anymore and their predecessors progress rail have done an awful job.

  • @timothymclaughlin6860
    @timothymclaughlin6860 3 года назад +5

    Wow! Love I found this . Love MRL and the maned helper teams . Had a trip all planned to go to Helena and watch The Boys live . Then the stupid pandemic hit . Modeling MRL in Kansas lol. Doing an Epic Covid-19 Build in O-Gauge. Made huge mountains in recent months for my rendition of the grade. Fascinating watching the crews work to start that massive train on grade . What a delicate dance lol . Thanks for the video!

  • @ScottHiddelston
    @ScottHiddelston Год назад +1

    Fantastic. Exactly what Mullan Pass is all about. Very well captured too

  • @paullindberg9230
    @paullindberg9230 2 года назад +3

    That power sounds sweet .Broken knuckle could eat some clock! Sounds like he/they're pumping up the train

  • @joseignaciocochacoria8594
    @joseignaciocochacoria8594 3 года назад +2

    Beautiful video of that heavy coal train and his powerful EMD helpers!!!
    👍👏👍📹👍👏👍

  • @hughjardon5869
    @hughjardon5869 3 года назад +5

    "Oh come on, we're not gonna be able to do that."
    BNSF engineer: Watch me!

    • @osrr6422
      @osrr6422 3 года назад +6

      All MRL crews there. The BNSF led trains are haulage trains. BNSF provides the trains, MRL the crews.

    • @robertf3479
      @robertf3479 Год назад

      THIS is why I love railfanning EMD locomotives, they don't have "GIVE UP" as a throttle setting.

  • @Chur1NZ
    @Chur1NZ 4 года назад +4

    Definitely a good catch thanks for sharing!

  • @DwayneDavis3
    @DwayneDavis3 4 года назад +3

    Awesome catch...great video!!!

  • @MCatSHF
    @MCatSHF 2 года назад +1

    Hello Mtrrnick:
    7:45
    Looks like he's rocking it, to get her moving!!!

  • @Bill-sp8kb
    @Bill-sp8kb Год назад +1

    SD70MAC's earning their keep!

  • @christianjohnson9190
    @christianjohnson9190 3 года назад +4

    Those engines are HOWLING

  • @proudfoamer2
    @proudfoamer2 3 года назад +5

    Great video. EMD's at their best.

  • @cagorrie
    @cagorrie Год назад

    Wow, nice video, right place, right time !

  • @williamgreeter1855
    @williamgreeter1855 2 года назад +4

    I got 2 Athearn Genesis in HO scale both in BNSF 9303 and 9366

  • @KatoOnTheTrack1
    @KatoOnTheTrack1 2 года назад +1

    Nice catch

  • @mtrails
    @mtrails 4 года назад +4

    Just awesome.

  • @JungleYT
    @JungleYT 3 года назад +1

    *Sweeet - **1:37** , **3:25* That was Butt-puckering! LOL

  • @jackierandall2230
    @jackierandall2230 2 года назад +1

    Very impressive👍👍👍👍

  • @Almoekd1971
    @Almoekd1971 4 года назад +4

    I remember that.

  • @sumantakolay1436
    @sumantakolay1436 Месяц назад

    A reason i love EMDs... GE locos could not have started that train from that point...

  • @bigdieselmax4104
    @bigdieselmax4104 2 месяца назад

    K5lla 1st gen is beautiful sound as music

  • @120alvarez
    @120alvarez 2 года назад +1

    Does MRL go out of Montana?

  • @alex.k3166
    @alex.k3166 Год назад +1

    7:30 half throttle an not even moving damn thats a lot of weight

  • @LiquidShadows
    @LiquidShadows 3 года назад +4

    Am I hearing wheel slip or the traction sanders? It kind of sounds like when you were a kid and you'd drag a metal pipe across asphalt... Or maybe I was just a weird kid. 🤣

    • @cliffleigh7450
      @cliffleigh7450 2 года назад +4

      You are hearing Wheel Creep where the wheels are at maximum traction just before slipping.

  • @toomasargel8503
    @toomasargel8503 Год назад

    One locomotive is 3.200 HPS but torque is huge 12,600 Nm !

    • @robertf3479
      @robertf3479 Год назад

      SD70ACe clocks the dynomometer at about 4,500 hp. Others like the SD70MAC at the tail end of the train generate about 4,000 hp. I think that lone GE unit up front puts out about 4,400 hp. I suspect (but don't know for sure) that even the 4,000 hp SD70MAC generates more tractive effort than the GE C44-9W.
      Yeah, I'm biased toward EMD and have been since I was a kid. I'm 69yo now.

  • @SP4449BN9444
    @SP4449BN9444 3 года назад +1

    Ain't fun putting a train back together on a steep grade on a loaded coal train... or when your DP shuts down and you stall on Crawford Hill either.

  • @TheSuperStarCarWash
    @TheSuperStarCarWash 3 года назад

    At what percent incline is this grade?

  • @jordanriley4510
    @jordanriley4510 2 года назад +1

    MAX & RUBY 🎹

  • @jordanriley4510
    @jordanriley4510 2 года назад +2

    NEVER GiVE UP 🎹

    • @robertf3479
      @robertf3479 Год назад +2

      EMD locomotives have never had "GIVE UP" as a throttle setting.

  • @NE-Explorer
    @NE-Explorer 2 года назад +1

    Cant start on a curve

  • @RDC_Autosports
    @RDC_Autosports 4 года назад +4

    these have creep control, throw it in 8 and creep

  • @tulockthewerewolf9744
    @tulockthewerewolf9744 4 года назад +3

    Why is it struggling like that?

    • @TheSupradude26
      @TheSupradude26 3 года назад +3

      Starting from a stop on a very steep hill with a very long and heavy train, plus the front engines were not connected at the time as a coupler broke part way between these middle helper engines and the front engines. You could hear all the locomotives wheels slipping even when they were dumping sand onto the tracks for extra traction.

    • @stretchlimo7275
      @stretchlimo7275 3 года назад +5

      He’s struggling because they are trying to restart a 23,000 ton or more coal drag on a grade, this was a highly impressive video👍🏼😎

    • @JMAC-rs6ey
      @JMAC-rs6ey 2 года назад +1

      @@stretchlimo7275 because I’m on a 2 percent grade with 32 ton dead weight I got 850,000 hp tractive drive to dah rail and inter axel wheel lock deployment and sand spreader at dah ready. Notch 8 puuuuuuuullllll

  • @bkriegel95
    @bkriegel95 2 года назад

    That sure was one of the hardest stops I've ever seen at 1:27

  • @itsjustaguy27
    @itsjustaguy27 4 года назад +1

    32k hp should look like an amtrak

  • @floodedcar123
    @floodedcar123 4 года назад +3

    What in the world is making that god awful noise?

    • @CGT867
      @CGT867 4 года назад +11

      @ floodedcar 123. That is "wheel creep" - the wheels are just on the verge of slipping and are at maximum adhesion. The sophisticated wheelslip equipment on modern locos allows this condition for maximum pulling power. The wheels are actually turning just slightly faster than if they were not slipping - hence the squeal. You will hear it on all EMD "Super Series" locos too when starting at full load.

    • @1960bobthebuilder
      @1960bobthebuilder 3 года назад +2

      Or...was that a reference to the constant blast of air from near the front of locomotive 4311? Because it annoyed me. Reasonably sure it was from a safety valve on the loco allowing air to escape because the compressor governor is not working properly.

    • @TheSupradude26
      @TheSupradude26 3 года назад +1

      I thought it was because they were slightly slipping on addition to using the sand?

    • @dannywilliamson3340
      @dannywilliamson3340 2 года назад +1

      The wind.

    • @JMAC-rs6ey
      @JMAC-rs6ey 2 года назад +3

      I got creep n peak on. I’m 32 tons on a 2 percent grade. I got 850,000 hp tractive drive to dah rail and full inter axel wheel lock deployment and sand spreader at the ready. Watching for a flash up in engine room. No notch 8 til movement spare the knuckle. Let’s spool up please maximum power pulllllllllllll