I personally cannot stand what Max sonics has done to Crunch and Autotek they used to be great brands. If you can find older 90s crunch or autotek that is worth the money.
I have an old autotek 4000.1D was the tits...but the mosfets kept melting at lower output oddly :( i could get it repeaired but its way too big for my car lol
Shame on you #MAXSONICS you should go out of business!! You destroy these brands like Hifonics, MB Quart, Crunch and one of the best amp in yr he 90's and earlier 2000's like Autotek
I agree with you a 100% percent! I've been in the Electronic Manufacturing business for over 35 years and I am well aware that Maxsonics used the past reputation of these brand to sell their current sub par product to the young, uninformed consumers. From misleading marketing, Amps specifications, to changing their RMS ratings to peak power output due AD-1 bench testing that proved that their RMS rating were inaccurate. You'd be hard pressed to see any AD-1 testing on any of their newer amps, simply because they won't do it or you tube channels are afraid to challenge them on their deceitful practices....
Thank you for the review! A local shop recommend this amp and thank goodness I found this review before purchasing and installing. I ended up going with a Pioneer amp because of your review. I'm no expert but I know enough to do some research first. Thanks again for helping me make a more informed purchase
Or the new Hifonics Goliath which is a 5000 watt amp for 339, The re se 4000 watt amp definitely is deceivinng I think but with Hifonics I guess you never know.Well catch ya on the next one!!!
Gangsta Made Authentic I had the '3000w' pyramid amp running 2 Boss p10dvc subs in a bandpass and it beat the hell out of my car. Cracked windshield and rear window. And rattled my trunk open a few times
this explains why ebay is selling these with a 15 inch sub and box for only 250 bucks...theres always a catch!! Thanks for this video!! you saved me 250 bucks to buy a better package off ebay
This was the 1st brand of amp I received as a gift back in 08...it sounded great till it fried after a month. My brother installed it who's been in the car audio business for years it was tuned right too
First amp I ever owned was a second hand Crunch Drive series 800 watt two channel. Silver/gray amp with neon blue fins that got hot as hell after a few hours of hard playing. But that amp survived all kinds of abuse, I only recall it going into protect once. Sold the amp when I upgraded and wish I still had it. The Crunch name will always hold special memories for me. It's a shame most people will only know them as a garbage company (which is a deserved viewpoint with their new products!)
I'm actually surprised and pleased with these numbers. Picked up the PX2000.1 for $0 and was hoping to push a 400w 12" setup. Realtime acoustics will tell the story, but you've prefaced the book. Thanks for the test!
I'm still power my subs w/ my JBL 600.1 mono amp. Its probably powered 8 - 10 pairs of subs between three different cars through out her life and still going strong. I've recently switched to just a single sub setup cause I drive a soft top jeep now. Two breakins and one freak overnight summer rain shower (left the top off overnight) and she's still kicking. If only these new amps had half the durability of amps a few years ago....but I digress.
I've an old school mtx 4250 class d 2 channel. Says 250w @ 2 ohms. Does that mean this junk would beat it at 268? I've been out of the game for a long time
I know youre not a fan of crunch but if you could make a guess , how many watts do you think the GP2500.1 produce at 1x4ohms single coil, thanks for your time
BUT, try the OLDER crunch amps. I would love to see the older crunch powerone p2000.1 on the synod. That boasted 4/2/1 ohm stable and would move my cvrs fairly decent.
My old MTX 420rms would blow a 3000 Crunch amp away lol. Crunch are bottom of the line amps in quality, power, value. The model does not even matter really.
Love this guy's videos. Good stuff man! Now I gotta go find the Planet Audio amp video. The thing about this amp is it's 20+ year old technology just made to look like newer tech. Back in 1995 it would be the same amp.
Great video man but I have to say I’m worried about your health. You seem out of breath just talking. Hope you take care of yourself bro. Can’t wait for the next video.
Thanks for showing us this we were curious, however today I came across an re audio 4000 watt amp se for like 150 so i looked it up and they are lime 259 and I remember re used to be good so if this is true and it can do 4 k for that price you may have a new champ!! Can u loom into it for us? Thanks dude!!!!
Big C from TN thanks Ryan for doing the amp dyno on the crunch it makes me think about the two autotek m4000.1d I purchased those amps are both from maxxsonics maybe one day you could test one if you didn't put it on the dyno no one would know what there buying.
Hey Ryan have you heard of a amp called Zenas Audio? It's custom and it's a beast. Probably 3ft long and weighs 40pounds. I'm just trying to find out if anyone else has ever heard of them before. My buddy has one and it says 4,000 2ohms. I know my electronics and I've had this in my hands and everything about it says built right. Whoever built this thing knew what they were doing.
I hate when you spend more then $50 and get $10 worth! Talk about time wasted. Thanks brother keep helping everyone stay the heck away from junk like that. We appreciate ya!
I have one of these that I bought almost 5 years ago and didn’t use it all that and now I tried to use it and it lasted a week. it’s not like it was kept stored poorly. And I think the audio store I bought it from ripped me tf off too. Anybody know if this has any decent of a warranty? I dont have my hopes up...
Ryan thank you for doing this crunch video l was thinking of getting a crunch ll can you do a review of a Rockford fosgate P300 12" amp sub and box all in one wonder:-) :-) I see them on eBay for 200.00 free shipping
LOL! What a POS! I knew Crunch was junk back when I was looking for an amp a while back. And I'm right there with you. I HATE angled terminals and I HATE spade connectors even more. Having both on an amp would be an automatic no-no for me even if the amp did it's rated power.
@@Rob-cm9jr indeed. I no longer have the amp as I Traded in the car I had it installed in but man it performed well for a small amp, super easy to hide out of sight too.
I own the CRUNCH 4.1 1000 watt amp. Not syre how it dynos, but it drives my 6 x 9's like CRAZY! Will push them as far as they are willing to go. I LLOVE my CRUNCH amp, no matter what the rsults say, but I think it will perform. edit after video: WOW.. what a let down. The 4.1 does much better in my experience.
Way back in the day there ground pounder subs were a decent budget woofer. They would keep up with jl w3 in the right enclosure. Isnt saying alot i know but for the price.
I Just Have ONE Question, The Dyno Tester at $4,000 is Impressive but what is more Impressive. WHERE did you Find a 14volt 100AMP Power Supply, Easy to find the Dyna tester impossible to find a 12 DC power supply rated at 100amps. That is enough to melt a normal screwdriver.
What was its compatible voltage range? Maybe it needed more voltage? Was the test in stereo or mono/bridged? It doesn't look too bad for a budget amplifier. But those results were just sad. My faith in Crunch the brand is dying. I don't remember them being garbage back in the day.
i got some crunch stuff at fry's not knowing any better. i didn't think it would be "that bad". it's been a while since i bought car stereo gear and i figured budget audio tech should be pretty good in 2018. little did i know it's even worse than "that bad" haha. at least yours hit 20%ish of rated power. i have 2 crunch amps that don't even break 15%!
it says 1500 max rated 750watts max at 4 ohms that would be 375 watts rms 187 watts pr ch. your test shows 183 watts pr ch. at 4 ohms 366 watts rms 732 watts max only -18watts
I remember when Autotek was a very nice elegant amplifier brand and Maxxsonics destroyed it turning the brand into some cheap ass low performance junk just like this Crunch crap. ANYTHING Maxxsonics touches turns to shit.
Crunch does have some good amps in the 150-300$ arena CEA certified Like the Brutus Elite amps i believe. Just not a brand I would buy without seeing a dyno like this first, they're no Rockford where it gives you what it states you can't roll the dice on every crunch amp out there you'll get a lemon lol.
jcwindevillose I'm currently running the rp 1500. I even talked to Shane at skar via email. He said it will do 1300 continuous. Which has me curious since they just came out with the rp 1200.1. Wonder how close it will be?
Richard Moore well I was going off there website and it never said that. I was going to get them but I switched to the wolfram 2400.1’s. Twenty bucks more and you can strap them so I will see how they do.
jcwindevillose that's the rp 1500 max power rating. Skar did a dyno it did 1400 at clipping. But you got other amps. Honestly if you got the wolfram 2400 pre order amp that Ryan had on the dyno. Then you got way better amp as far as power than the rp 1500. I can't remember exactly but the wolfram did like 2400 continuous and like 2700 at clipping. Way more power. Good choice
cory merry not knocking them bcuz I got three EVL-12’s waiting to be put in but I’m not deep in my pockets so the deal from wolfram couldn’t be beat and if they do what I saw I will be very happy. 5k plus strapped at 2ohms yeah that’s enough for me
Just what I expected, as soon as I saw the fusing I said maybe 400 watts, that's sad... Another company that has definitely went to shit completely, and crunch use to make decent equipment back in the day. Companies shouldn't be able to do such as this with their ratings but it seems like most are doing it now
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This video should get a million views and Maxsonics should never be able to sell another till the end of time.
I personally cannot stand what Max sonics has done to Crunch and Autotek they used to be great brands. If you can find older 90s crunch or autotek that is worth the money.
I have an old autotek 4000.1D was the tits...but the mosfets kept melting at lower output oddly :( i could get it repeaired but its way too big for my car lol
I have an older autotek for 3yrs now running 2 12 fosgates😁
Get the Hifonics bxx or bg
This was a must needed test. These are all over ebay and amazon. Thanks Ryan.
You would think that they could get sued for false advertisement on something like this thanks for what you do man
I love these reviews your channel is EXTREMLY HELPFUL
Not a shock, but glad to see the real numbers.. junk in the trunk for real.. lol. Another great video sir.
Crunchy! It hit 420 so maybe the Chinese employees were blazin up when they rated it.
Lol... So true.
They got chinese eyed before they rated it😂
@@o.gwolverine8189lol
@@biscuitninja lol
Maxsonics is trash = hifonics, Mbquart, crunch, autotek.
Sorry that is American brand
Shame on you #MAXSONICS you should go out of business!! You destroy these brands like Hifonics, MB Quart, Crunch and one of the best amp in yr he 90's and earlier 2000's like Autotek
I agree with you a 100% percent! I've been in the Electronic Manufacturing business for over 35 years and I am well aware that Maxsonics used the past reputation of these brand to sell their current sub par product to the young, uninformed consumers. From misleading marketing, Amps specifications, to changing their RMS ratings to peak power output due AD-1 bench testing that proved that their RMS rating were inaccurate. You'd be hard pressed to see any AD-1 testing on any of their newer amps, simply because they won't do it or you tube channels are afraid to challenge them on their deceitful practices....
I was just typing out "shame when a $60 Dual amp does more power" when you said it. lol
Dual = Sony
Dual =Sony
I bought 1 of the dual amps after watching a video of his. Powers my comp r well.
I agree with you about the power acoustic amp that Walmart sale more power for the same money and they do rated and some
Thank you for the review! A local shop recommend this amp and thank goodness I found this review before purchasing and installing. I ended up going with a Pioneer amp because of your review. I'm no expert but I know enough to do some research first. Thanks again for helping me make a more informed purchase
I laughed when I saw Designed and Engineered in the USA.
Or the new Hifonics Goliath which is a 5000 watt amp for 339, The re se 4000 watt amp definitely is deceivinng I think but with Hifonics I guess you never know.Well catch ya on the next one!!!
I got this amp ... thanks for the review
I want to see the cheap Pyramid amps dynoed!!!
Ohio Houston agreed me to
Gangsta Made Authentic I had the '3000w' pyramid amp running 2 Boss p10dvc subs in a bandpass and it beat the hell out of my car. Cracked windshield and rear window. And rattled my trunk open a few times
There are no american brand amps worst than Pyramid... the make Boss btw.
Ohio Houston it did not crack your windshield
imBriz it literally did. It was a little metro.
this explains why ebay is selling these with a 15 inch sub and box for only 250 bucks...theres always a catch!! Thanks for this video!! you saved me 250 bucks to buy a better package off ebay
ryan i bought the jbl gtx500 a month or so ago based on your video just wanted to say thanks i couldn't be happier
This was the 1st brand of amp I received as a gift back in 08...it sounded great till it fried after a month. My brother installed it who's been in the car audio business for years it was tuned right too
Wow.... small old school RF 2 channels kick this amps ass...
Thanks for looking out for us budget bassheads!
First amp I ever owned was a second hand Crunch Drive series 800 watt two channel. Silver/gray amp with neon blue fins that got hot as hell after a few hours of hard playing. But that amp survived all kinds of abuse, I only recall it going into protect once. Sold the amp when I upgraded and wish I still had it.
The Crunch name will always hold special memories for me. It's a shame most people will only know them as a garbage company (which is a deserved viewpoint with their new products!)
I'm actually surprised and pleased with these numbers. Picked up the PX2000.1 for $0 and was hoping to push a 400w 12" setup. Realtime acoustics will tell the story, but you've prefaced the book. Thanks for the test!
"Zero" dollars? Lol
haha, I got lucky! Think I found it in the middle of the desert or something. Turned out it wasn't the greatest, but did the job for the price I paid.
Love what you and big d do man,please keep bringing the truth!
Ryan Blankenship my pleasure man,its nice to see which companies are good,which ones are eh,and which ones are downright grimy
I'm still power my subs w/ my JBL 600.1 mono amp. Its probably powered 8 - 10 pairs of subs between three different cars through out her life and still going strong. I've recently switched to just a single sub setup cause I drive a soft top jeep now. Two breakins and one freak overnight summer rain shower (left the top off overnight) and she's still kicking. If only these new amps had half the durability of amps a few years ago....but I digress.
I've an old school mtx 4250 class d 2 channel. Says 250w @ 2 ohms. Does that mean this junk would beat it at 268? I've been out of the game for a long time
No mtx are underrated and will def do more than 250 and is better than the crunch In everyway . MTX ftw
Love your honesty. Tell it like it is!! Great videos Ryan!
I know youre not a fan of crunch but if you could make a guess , how many watts do you think the GP2500.1 produce at 1x4ohms single coil, thanks for your time
That makes sense, I tried to run the same amp for 2 10" cvrs wired to a 2 ohm load. It would only run maybe 8-15 minutes before going into protect.
I use to have a 1500 crunch power zone on 4 jl audio 12's and it banged
BUT, try the OLDER crunch amps. I would love to see the older crunch powerone p2000.1 on the synod. That boasted 4/2/1 ohm stable and would move my cvrs fairly decent.
can you please test this crunch amp its cheap it does 70watts rms per channel at 4ohm.
crunch gpx 1000.4
Thank you, what about replacing the fuses with 40amps ?
Crunch did make a beast amp. The crunch gp 3000 pro. Dont know if they still make them or not.
My old MTX 420rms would blow a 3000 Crunch amp away lol. Crunch are bottom of the line amps in quality, power, value. The model does not even matter really.
I would love to see what it would do with two 40amp fuses lol
This by far was the funniest video I've seen in a while thank you
I love that music you play when you run the dyno test .! Who is it?!
Love this guy's videos. Good stuff man! Now I gotta go find the Planet Audio amp video. The thing about this amp is it's 20+ year old technology just made to look like newer tech. Back in 1995 it would be the same amp.
Its always funny when I read reviews on $40 subwoofers and the say it handed all 1500 watts max from their crunch amp
Cover up the last zero o n these budget junk amps n u have the real number! 150rms not 1500!
Haha
Hey boss looking for a good mid amp have two fosgate ssp8-10 350 watts rms and 700 max what would be the best amp for the money???
Local...are you around Libertyville?
Ryan Blankenship cool, I'm in round lake.
It's cool to find another car audio guy in Illinois. Most of the guys online are out of the southwest.
which is better crunch old school or sony old school ?
Great video man but I have to say I’m worried about your health. You seem out of breath just talking. Hope you take care of yourself bro. Can’t wait for the next video.
Ryan Blankenship I second that take care of yourself brother we can't have u goin anywhere anytime soon!! sorry to hear about that!!
what"s better crunch old school or sony old school ?
Love your channel good information. Have you tested the Kenwood kac 9106D? What are your thoughts? Thanks
Thanks for showing us this we were curious, however today I came across an re audio 4000 watt amp se for like 150 so i looked it up and they are lime 259 and I remember re used to be good so if this is true and it can do 4 k for that price you may have a new champ!! Can u loom into it for us? Thanks dude!!!!
Tater T.V. same here, I would like to see some RE AUDIO on the bench.
Big C from TN thanks Ryan for doing the amp dyno on the crunch it makes me think about the two autotek m4000.1d I purchased those amps are both from maxxsonics maybe one day you could test one if you didn't put it on the dyno no one would know what there buying.
Hey Ryan have you heard of a amp called Zenas Audio? It's custom and it's a beast. Probably 3ft long and weighs 40pounds. I'm just trying to find out if anyone else has ever heard of them before. My buddy has one and it says 4,000 2ohms. I know my electronics and I've had this in my hands and everything about it says built right. Whoever built this thing knew what they were doing.
Ryan Blankenship thanks Ryan it looks like one that someone put together themselves.
On the website that you put up side 40 amp fuse
I have no idea what your trying to ask....
Can you dyno the new 2000 watt crunch ground pounder amp?
Awful. Thanks for the review.
I hate when you spend more then $50 and get $10 worth! Talk about time wasted. Thanks brother keep helping everyone stay the heck away from junk like that. We appreciate ya!
Crunch I must say you live up to your name once again.
If they want a name to live up to they should just rename it Crap instead of Crunch
Can you explain the bass EQ , why have it at zero?
May I ask for a recommendation for a compact amp capable of pushing 1500+ watts that would pass your tests m?
Can u dyno the 3000.1 D pd?
Testing starts at 9:10 of you feel like skipping the rest.
Love the reviews keep doing what you are doing! Would like to see soundstream Rubicon nano 3000 if you get a chance!
Can you start testing them down to lower than rated if they are 2018 and newer? I really wish marketing would stop outright falsification of products.
I have one of these that I bought almost 5 years ago and didn’t use it all that and now I tried to use it and it lasted a week. it’s not like it was kept stored poorly. And I think the audio store I bought it from ripped me tf off too. Anybody know if this has any decent of a warranty? I dont have my hopes up...
What's the defrance between Ab and D amplifiers
D are more efficient. Which is good
Curious about the new Precision Power Trax amps. PPI used to be such a solid brand, have heard its been downhill.
have you ever test Power Acoustic 5500 watts Amp
Ryan thank you for doing this crunch video l was thinking of getting a crunch ll can you do a review of a Rockford fosgate P300 12" amp sub and box all in one wonder:-) :-) I see them on eBay for 200.00 free shipping
I've had nothing but positive out of the hifonics amps.
Sad part my kenwood xr900-5 is smaller rated 400 at 4 ohm , 600 at 2 and is a 5 channel 🤦🏾♂️
LOL! What a POS! I knew Crunch was junk back when I was looking for an amp a while back. And I'm right there with you. I HATE angled terminals and I HATE spade connectors even more. Having both on an amp would be an automatic no-no for me even if the amp did it's rated power.
Wow so the mini Dual sub Amp I have for my sub does more power then this amp and it cost less!!!! 😲😲😲😲😲😲
Dual = Sony
I'm running a dual on my comp r. Does well.
@@Rob-cm9jr indeed. I no longer have the amp as I Traded in the car I had it installed in but man it performed well for a small amp, super easy to hide out of sight too.
I own the CRUNCH 4.1 1000 watt amp. Not syre how it dynos, but it drives my 6 x 9's like CRAZY! Will push them as far as they are willing to go. I LLOVE my CRUNCH amp, no matter what the rsults say, but I think it will perform.
edit after video: WOW.. what a let down. The 4.1 does much better in my experience.
I have a hard time finding the spade terminals for 4 gauge pisses me off!!
Way back in the day there ground pounder subs were a decent budget woofer. They would keep up with jl w3 in the right enclosure. Isnt saying alot i know but for the price.
Can you please do a dyno of the hifonics brx2000.1d
The Reaper
They do ok, but you better have a huge electrical upgrade, they drink power. Better go with the Skar RP2k, better power and less draw.
mike waters thanks for the recommendation, I will look into that amp
yes, sir you wont be disappointed.
Who makes the most efficient amps in the 1000-1500 watt range?
Can you do one of the Autotek amps. I know they don't do anything near rated, but I use one and its decent wanted to put a number to this thing
Hey Ryan
Can u do the kicker dxa 1500.1 please!!
Ty
I Just Have ONE Question, The Dyno Tester at $4,000 is Impressive but what is more Impressive. WHERE did you Find a 14volt 100AMP Power Supply, Easy to find the Dyna tester impossible to find a 12 DC power supply rated at 100amps. That is enough to melt a normal screwdriver.
What was its compatible voltage range? Maybe it needed more voltage? Was the test in stereo or mono/bridged? It doesn't look too bad for a budget amplifier. But those results were just sad. My faith in Crunch the brand is dying. I don't remember them being garbage back in the day.
So what do you recommend
Depends on someone's budget and power needs
Can you try pro audio amp like Behringer NU6000DSP or Crown XLS 2502? That would be awesome!
Did anyone know that u did 40hz instead of 50hz in witch it rated.
Will not make a single difference...
The amp will not magically makes it rating at a 10hz difference
@@bigblank69 keep sellin ur bs have fun. Sooner or later some gonna find out u low life lies are actually lies. Have a nice day dumass
I would like a crunch amp from the 1990 to 1993.
Can you test the cerwyn vega 1000 w
Some of the MB QUART AMPS by Maxxonics do rated power.
Crunch was decent back in the day,mid 90s crunch was up there with coustic.
Can someone tell me, whats “ certified, uncertified abd dynamic” ??
Certified is to 1% THD, Uncertified is to clipping, and dynamic is to clipping on a short burst.
Budget Gem or Budget Bust ty for replying, now i know, ty man.
Test power acoustik edge 2500d and the 1000 4 ch
Best part of video 12:28 🤣🤣🤣
"... this amp SUCKS!"
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!🤣
I guessed 300-400 right off the bat. This amp actually sucks pretty badly man. U said it best.
Back in the before-times Crunch 50 made 500W and was made in the USA.
Do an amp Dyno on this amp Crunch PZ50201D Powerzone.
I'll take a pass.... it's not going to do 5000w...
@@bigblank69 hhhhh what about powerzone 1004.4
i got some crunch stuff at fry's not knowing any better. i didn't think it would be "that bad". it's been a while since i bought car stereo gear and i figured budget audio tech should be pretty good in 2018. little did i know it's even worse than "that bad" haha. at least yours hit 20%ish of rated power. i have 2 crunch amps that don't even break 15%!
it says 1500 max rated 750watts max at 4 ohms that would be 375 watts rms 187 watts pr ch. your test shows 183 watts pr ch. at 4 ohms 366 watts rms 732 watts max only -18watts
Maybe the amp internals got crunched/shaken around during shipping o.0
I remember when Autotek was a very nice elegant amplifier brand and Maxxsonics destroyed it turning the brand into some cheap ass low performance junk just like this Crunch crap. ANYTHING Maxxsonics touches turns to shit.
One of those Rockville active "600 watt" bass tubes would be interesting. But $100 for a sub, amp, and enclosure...
Crunch does have some good amps in the 150-300$ arena CEA certified Like the Brutus Elite amps i believe. Just not a brand I would buy without seeing a dyno like this first, they're no Rockford where it gives you what it states you can't roll the dice on every crunch amp out there you'll get a lemon lol.
That's right I had Hifonics on the brain guess maybe since they're in the same parent company my bad.
Wow PD stands for pure dung. Shameful mis leading. Have you done a video on the skar RP1500.1 ? They say it can do 2300 @ 1ohm
jcwindevillose I'm currently running the rp 1500. I even talked to Shane at skar via email. He said it will do 1300 continuous. Which has me curious since they just came out with the rp 1200.1. Wonder how close it will be?
Richard Moore well I was going off there website and it never said that. I was going to get them but I switched to the wolfram 2400.1’s. Twenty bucks more and you can strap them so I will see how they do.
jcwindevillose that's the rp 1500 max power rating. Skar did a dyno it did 1400 at clipping. But you got other amps. Honestly if you got the wolfram 2400 pre order amp that Ryan had on the dyno. Then you got way better amp as far as power than the rp 1500. I can't remember exactly but the wolfram did like 2400 continuous and like 2700 at clipping. Way more power. Good choice
jcwindevillose skar is ok but not great.
cory merry not knocking them bcuz I got three EVL-12’s waiting to be put in but I’m not deep in my pockets so the deal from wolfram couldn’t be beat and if they do what I saw I will be very happy. 5k plus strapped at 2ohms yeah that’s enough for me
Pls try the gpx2200.1d
I payed 165 for one yesterday did I get ripped off
Thank you for the review.
Just what I expected, as soon as I saw the fusing I said maybe 400 watts, that's sad... Another company that has definitely went to shit completely, and crunch use to make decent equipment back in the day. Companies shouldn't be able to do such as this with their ratings but it seems like most are doing it now