Since a majority of photographers are on cheaper, APS-C sensors, videos like this are very much appreciated. Not everyone can afford full frame or buy multiple decent enough lens. So thank you for this video!
@@stephengatley8144 The whole difference is that you need a 30mm F1.1 for your 80D to reproduce an image shot on 6D and 50mm F1.8. We can simply save money with Full Frame.
@@stephengatley8144 Depends on the full frame camera your comparing the aps-c to. The difference on more high end full frames can show a day and night difference when it comes to noise and detail in low light.
0ecka By owning both I can use two lenses, a 35mm F2 & 85mm 1.4 to get many Frame equivalents!. 35, 56, 85 & 135mm who cares so much about bokeh as to write off the benefits of APSC?, there are incredible photographers shooting Micro 4/3rds stop being a snob & get better!.
I have watched SO many videos comparing prime lenses - and yours, by far, has been the most helpful. Thank you for working so hard to make this one - I feel more confident buying my prime lens now.
85mm on crop ( 135mm on ff ) is definitely special because you get hypnotised by the eyes of the person more than in any other focal length ! i rly love 135 and 50 on my 6D.
Really punchy headshots on 135 are okay but if you start doing half body on 135 distortion starts to get introduced. It's safer to go 85mm route for half and full body shots.
@@Kekmit I feel like it’s one of those lens where if you have the room, whatever you shoot looks amazing. But you’re right. At that point, a solid 70-200 would be much more versatile. To be honest, I’m still getting tons of use out of my 85mm F1.8 🤷🏽♂️
This is exactly I was looking for, especially because it is for cropped sensors. I didn't know the difference between the sensors was that huge though, wow!
My 3 Lenses are Full Frame used on a Crop Lens ( A6400 ) Just bought a Full Frame Camera so I won’t need any lens for a while 🙌🏻 16mm x 1.5 = 24mm 35mm x 1.5 = 52mm 85mm x 1.5 = 127mm Thanks for video 💯
Great comparison. It was really helpful showing the standing distance between photographer and subject too. Filming from the side angle at 90 degrees is the perfect way to show the distance. All the other videos I have seen on RUclips show the photos being from behind the photographer or at and angle from the side so the perceived distance can vary greatly depending on the focal length the videographer is using, while the relative distance at exactly 90 degrees does not change. Thank for sharing.
Julia honestly I have to thank God for you. Not many RUclipsrs do side by side by side lens/ photo comparisons like this and it really helps beginners like myself just pause the video and understand the comparisons so simply. Awesome job! Please do not stop doing these 😍
Each & every video of yours has been massively helpful! The content is great, the presentation is easily understandable & the comparison photos are what's really needed & you've got everything on point!
This video gave me so much information and really helps to choose the next lens. All other similar videos are usually made with full frame sensors. Thank you!
Wow finally a clear video that explains these damn technical stuff when I’m just learning and starting it. People throw out these numbers and it don’t mean anything till you see the exact examples. Thank you this is very clear and I learned all I wanted from just your video when watching hundreds not as clear
Awesome work on this video. So far it's the only video of it's kind to present so much detail and information on the topic at hand. Loved it. Learned a lot. Thanks. Keep it up.
I liked all the results with 50 mm.. and some of 35 as well.. I'm APSC user and don't think I hv mistaken by owning 50 mm, Thanks for comparison. Keep creating 🤟📸
@@refugioflores2226 im curious to know what did you go with 11 months later . I personally bought the 50mm f1.8 and the 24mm f2.8 pancake lens which are approximately 38mm and 80mm . I use the 24 to show more of the bg .
@@mohamadahmad7171 hey well after looking at a lot of reviews i bought the sigma art 30mm becasue it seems like the best sweet spot specially on crop sensor not too wide not to narrow and the quality its so good i wanted to get only one lens thats why i decided to go for that one. im still deciding if i should get the 50mm just for portraits but the 30mm its been doing very good for full body portraits and that focal length its very versatile
Realy appriciate your work of you all doing this video possible. I am not English native speaker but anything is comprehensive, clear and instantly understandable. Thanks
Thanks for the side by side comparison. Used the head shots to demonstrate to my wife the effects of different focal lengths on making faces look thinner.
Ive been shooting FF for years now but just rented a 90D to try it out. The best thing about crop sensor cameras IMO is the price. 50mm lenses are considerably cheaper than 85mm lenses, so you can put a cheaper 50mm on a crop sensor camera and basically get that 85mm look for much less money. The 90D is fantastic. Bigger than the Canon mirrorless cameras with a better grip, but not as big and bulky as a 5D series camera. The 32.5 megapixel sensor is perfect IMO as well. The 45 megapixel of the R5 is a bit too much to be fast and useable and CF express cards are way too overpriced and the 20 megapixels in the R6 isn't enough. 32 is a nice in between sweet spot. I also love that you can put it in live view and get DPAF with face and eye detection as well. Pretty much the best of both worlds between DSLR and mirrorless IMO. I may have to pick one up soon.
Great video! :) For portraits 50 mm lens on crop body is really the perfect mesure, but I would like to add that 35 mm is way more practical for general use because sometimes we would like to capture a slightly wider angle. I would strongly recommend anyone who is in dilema which lens to pick, to start with the 35 mm lens on a crop body.
I have 35mm and 85mm.. And have a workaround to makeup for 50mm focal length. With my 35mm on, I move towards the subject or crop in the image a little bit to get that 50mm field of view
For a portrait/wedding/fashion photographer having to be on the other side of the road might be seen as a disadvantage. But for wildlife and macro photography that extra reach is a definite benefit. As more and more technology is going into ASPC, M4/3 and smaller mirrorless camera sensors I think the argument for selling lenses for their effective range on these cameras is getting stronger. So a 100mm lens made for a Canon crop would be sold as "effectively" a 160mm. I know I’ve over simplified the maths but I think it would help a lot of people just getting serious with their photography. So the Sigma Art 18-35 f1.8 ef-s, would still be sold as that lens but with 'Effectively 29-56' and whatever the aperture should be also on the box. Another fantastic video, wonderfully done and it must have taken heck of a lot of work. Thank you.
I can imagine this would be such a positive for other styles of photography! Even for weddings where I like to stay out of people's way during the ceremony the 135 on FF is already more than enough distance for me but for wildlife, it would be great to be able to put as much distance between you and your subject as possible. And thanks so much!
yuvraj wadhwani yes it would! The problem with having an “effective length” is that it’s not entirely correct. There’s a very good video about it I saw a while back ago and unfortunately I don’t remember the title. But essentially, a 50mm will always be a 50mm. But there’s a crop, affecting the field of view. Therefore, if you use a 50mm on a apsc, it’ll be the exact same as using a 50mm on a full frame if you decided to crop the full frame photo. But the visual “effect” or characteristics a lens has will stay the same regardless of the camera.
@@adrianarmenta3572 agreed. The focal length does not change at all as it is a physical factor of the lens. Only the final image is cropped because of the sensor size and a slight difference because of the aperture change. Theoretically, the aperture should affect the image the same way if you adjust it taking the crop factor into consideration, and I do remember seeing a couple of videos that tested this theory as well.
yuvraj wadhwani It is, but I’m not clever enough to work it out, that’s why I said "whatever the aperture would be". For some mathematical or physic reason you don't multiply by the straight 1.6 as you do the effective range. I know it has something to do with the volume of light let in.
This has been SO helpful to break down the difference between crop and full frame, along with helping give visuals to what each lens can do! Thank you thank you! Brilliant!
Thank you so very very much, after watching your other videos on prime lenses, i recently bought a 50mm prime for my APS-C camera. After watching this video i feel so chuffed i made the right choice for my first prime lens.The 50 & 85 stand out for me. I loved the video, it looked time consuming & tricky to get it all done so i am thankful for your efforts and time.
Thank you so much for doing this. I have a crop sensor and I love portrait photography, so this comparison video is EXACTLY what I needed to help me decide what my next lens purchase will be. This is much appreciated
I've been struggling to make a decision between a 30mm (not 35 I know haha) and a 50mm for my a6400, I really like the "high" fov of a 50mm in a fullframe body and the only reason I wasn't sure about the 30mm was that I wanted the same or close to the same bokeh you get with a 50mm. Now I'm pretty sure i'll get what I was looking for with a 30mm f1.4 since I want that 50mm ff look:. Being able to see instead of being told whats better really helped me make my decision, so thank you so much!
30mm on my A6500 is a great walk around lens but not a good choice for portraits (unless it's for a family and you have a large distance away from camera) for portraits of
Thank you very helpful! As a Hobby photographer I have a 50mm for my Nikon was thinking of getting a 85mm for portraits .But I really like the 50mm pics more! LOL
Thank you for this exhaustive test! It's really useful to see how the lenses compare both with same framing and when used from the same spot. I must say, however, that the amount of distortion on APS-C and full-frame when you shoot with the same lens from the same position is exactly the same. Only cropping is different.
For the same aperture, the highest bokeh is achieved by increasing the zoom (focal length) and walking up to the subject i.e. getting to minimum focus range. This means that you can get INSANE bokeh with the longest focal length and walking up to the subject. Also, for the same frame filling, the longer the focal length, the less the barreling(distortion) of the face, so your nose don't get blown up. If you use a post processing program like lightroom, then you can correct for distortions and not worry so much about the lens used. Therefore, the focus becomes more about Bokeh and Detail in the photo. Why use bokeh? It is to get a subject in the picture to POP. Other techniques used to get the subject to pop are - Saturation (this requires lightroom/photoshop to mask the surrounding and desaturate everything else), or Motion blur (keep the subject still, increase exposure length in a place with lots of movement). The best way to achieve everything about making a subject pop is to use an 85mm wide aperture prime lens tune for chromatic distortions (chromatic distortions are the hardest to post-process out), go as close to the subject as you can, and bokeh everything else out, then post process with some saturation/distortion correction. Since with the full frame you can go much closer to the subject, you achieve MUUUUCH more bokeh than with an APSC. You will also be able to take pictures with much less light for the same pixel density, so less noise distortion. This video shows you that full frames can get more information in for the same focal length, but it totally missed the opportunity to show off the difference in BOKEH achieved.
Thank you for making this video, I was looking for this info everywhere on internet. :) Great Job showing showing your "actual distance" from the side shot, before showing the APS-C and FF photos.
I love this series. My favorite lens on a crop frame is the 35mm, f1.8 - for all the reasons you described. It's awesome to see all the focal lengths together! Super!
Great video! I ended up getting the Sony 85mm 1.8 because I liked it the most from the various distances from the subject. I have the crop frame Sony 6400 and the subject filled the frame more how I like it. I felt like I would crop a lot of the full frame shots with nearly all the lenses.
From the experiments of this video, I feel like crop sensor is more suitable for potrait as the "Bokeh" is easier to achieve and less distortion whereas full frame camera is better for composition-oriented shoot such as landscape :) Both have their pros
I don't have the need to fix people all the time but I would like to put some here. Indeed the bokeh is worse on APS-C due to naturally wider depth of field. The equivalent effective aperture on APS-C is always higher than that on full frame. And distortion has nothing to do with crop or full frame. It's related to the distance you are to the person.
Thank you! I was trying to decide between a 24 or 35 on my crop, I already have a 50 (full frame 80). I think I'll go with the 35, giving me a 50 full frame. 👍🙂
@@Noeman2009 But in many situations you could just get closer or further from the subject by moving forwards or backwards rather than the camera zoom doing the moving for you, then you could buy a prime lens with a better aperture and better quality. A zoom lens would be needed for video that zooms in to the action like sports photography.
Pls educate us on what focal lengths are to be used for specific purpose. i.e. normal 35-70, portrait 70-135, landscape 18-35. Extreme wide angle - below 18mm etc. It will help the beginners to choose particular lens for their choice of photography. Your lens and camera body comparison was very informative.
Ive been trying to do a ton of research on which lense to buy for my cannon 80d im going to get and this has by FAR been the best video explaining the lenses! Im just starting out with photography and videography came across your channel and its very helpful!
It's important to understand that the distortion here comes not from the lens itself, but from how far away the camera is from the subject. This is why all the close up shots have larger noses. The model's face will look the same if you back up aways and take the photo with a 15mm lens and then crop in. This is perspective distortion, not lens distortion. Fstoppers did a great video on this.
I only came across your videos quite recently and immediately got hooked. Interesting topics - like this one, clear explanation and ravishing models (and photographer ;-)). Keep up the good work.
I too have the same lens for Nikon and it's quality is superb but still 85mm one would be still better. I wished I had lower pixel count say 14-16 mp but larger pixels. Using an APSC sensor.
@@maf3695 yes, you can use both. Actually I studied various literatures of expert photographers. The conclusion was, all had same opinion that 70-135 mm effective focal length was most appropriate for portrait photography. You can use any lens that meets this criteria. That's why many wedding photographers use 70-200mm f2.8 lens which is very expensive but versatile with constant aperture. I am using 50mm prime but many a times wished to have little longer focal length lens.
Aryan some day we will be able to get that 70-200mm f2.8. I’ve been experimenting with 55-210mm f3.5-5.6 kit lens for the a6000 some pictures came out great and others just ok. But I will keep practicing. I’m grateful for Julia’s tutorials and thankful for you reply!
@@maf3695 use some software (dxo optics pro) and shoot raw. Even the basic settings give great quality photographs. We can even print big posters if shot carefully without any fault. 50mm f1.8 is a great and economic lens to start with. I shot old monuments with great details and it was more prominent after I ran the raw file through this software. The highlights, shadows, colour, contrast, etc were optimally adjusted and used de-noising tool to get clean & clear picture down to the pixels. I used 18-55mm kit lens with great result. Use higher quality lens only when we reach that competency level.
Finally!!! I've been hoping to come across something like this. Thank you so much for putting this together. Looking for my first prime lens. I do candids/wildlife so I'm torn between an 85 and 135-200 range primes for my crop camera. KILLED it on this video! Cheers!
On the portrait crop shots, the 85 lens looks really good. Normally, the 135 lens is ideal for portraiture when shooting 35mm film. In this case, the 85 looks really good. Perspective distortion is noticeable with the 24 and 35 lenses. Even the 50 lens isn't ideal for portraiture, but it does looks good here. Also, the shot with the 85 lens has a nice contrast to it. That may be the reason why it overall edges out the 135 lens. Thanks for sharing this video.
I made the same conclusions regarding head shots. The wide angle lens (24mm and 35mm) distort the model's face and are probably less comfortable for the model to pose to because of proximity to the camera. The 50mm looks ok, but not spectacular. The 85mm looks good and the 135mm makes the model look like a hollywood actress. Bokeh on 50mm and on 85mm is best for portraits, while at 135mm the background is washed out, which can be good and bad.
Thanks for all the hardwork, Julia! It would be great if you can make a short video putting the equivalent crop photo to the fullframe side by side for everyone to see if depth of field is that much shallower on fullframe. For example: 24mm on crop vs 35mm on ff 35mm on crop vs 50mm on ff 50mm on crop vs 85mm on ff 85mm on crop vs 135mm on ff That would be great and thanks in advance if you are doing it soon :P
@@Kekmit you will tell the difference when u want a wider angle xD for example if i want 24mm on crop sensor it would give me 35mm so i need to take 18mm which will gave me a fish eye effect, i kinda find it hard especially im a landscape photographer but above 24mm still same fullframe and crop sensor
You are excellent at what you do. These kinds of videos are great for beginner photographers like myself. Again, thank you so very much, you’ve earned a subscriber.
Hi Julia. I know this video is quite old and not sure you are answering (hope you do!). I wanted to get a light versatile prime lens for travel/casual situations. I read quite a bit that people prefer the 35mm for travel. Does that apply for crop cameras too? I have a crop camera (Nikon) and wondering if I should get the 35mm (knowing that image might be crop) or a 24mm instead. Any comments, suggestions, advantages? Thanks!!
I'm the same, the 135 is beautiful but I feel too far away from my subject like I have to yell to give them direction haha I usually go for the 85 instead for portraits as its a nice mixture of both :)
This was a major help I have a canon 80D and I have had 50mm prime for a while I just purchased 30mm prime and was wondering if it’s viable for portraits on crop sensor. This is great. this confirms 30mm on crop sensor was a good buy! Thanks for the video!
You as the photographer are absolutely gorgeous. Thank goodness that you make videos & aren’t just hiding behind a camera. My new crush 🤓 oh btw, this video was exactly what I needed to know! I’m starting my YT journey with an a6100 & a sigma16mm 1.4f
This is SO helpful Julia thank you! I’ve been watching a heap of your videos and love them. I recently bought a Sony a6400 and only just learned about crop frame!!! Is your 35mm lens in this video E or FE lens? I don’t quite understand the difference while I’m browsing lenses online
Thank you so much for this video!!! I will definitely check out more from you! Did you take these photos midday? The lighting and colors are so pretty! Do you prefer taking photos at a certain time of day (Golden hour)?
Thank you for the comparisons. Maybe next you can comparing the equivalent field of view. For example, 24mm on crop frame camera vs 35mm on full frame camera and so on. Look forward to watch your next video :D
Thank you and love that idea! I did that briefly in the crop frame vs full frame video that I linked in the description in case you missed it :) But would be fun to do this for all the focal lengths!
you basically lose bokeh, thats the only difference. so for example to make a 24mm 1.4 apsc look like a 35mm 1.4 you'd have to buy a 24mm 1.0 because less light is captured since the sensor is smaller
Since a majority of photographers are on cheaper, APS-C sensors, videos like this are very much appreciated. Not everyone can afford full frame or buy multiple decent enough lens. So thank you for this video!
I'm so glad you liked it!
Robenie Fernandez I shoot 6Dii & 80D there is literally no difference other than a tiny amount of grain at high ISO!
@@stephengatley8144 The whole difference is that you need a 30mm F1.1 for your 80D to reproduce an image shot on 6D and 50mm F1.8. We can simply save money with Full Frame.
@@stephengatley8144 Depends on the full frame camera your comparing the aps-c to. The difference on more high end full frames can show a day and night difference when it comes to noise and detail in low light.
0ecka By owning both I can use two lenses, a 35mm F2 & 85mm 1.4 to get many Frame equivalents!. 35, 56, 85 & 135mm who cares so much about bokeh as to write off the benefits of APSC?, there are incredible photographers shooting Micro 4/3rds stop being a snob & get better!.
4 years later, still the one that i come back to through searches to find my refs and examples for comparison. Thanks again!
That’s really nice to hear, thank you!
I have watched SO many videos comparing prime lenses - and yours, by far, has been the most helpful. Thank you for working so hard to make this one - I feel more confident buying my prime lens now.
Thank you, I'm glad it was helpful!
Agreed
I normally don’t comment on RUclips videos, however, this video has what I’ve been searching high and low on the internet for. Thank you
85mm on crop ( 135mm on ff ) is definitely special because you get hypnotised by the eyes of the person more than in any other focal length ! i rly love 135 and 50 on my 6D.
I really want 135mm F2. That look is awesome. Really sweet for car photography too.
Really punchy headshots on 135 are okay but if you start doing half body on 135 distortion starts to get introduced. It's safer to go 85mm route for half and full body shots.
@@Kekmit I feel like it’s one of those lens where if you have the room, whatever you shoot looks amazing. But you’re right. At that point, a solid 70-200 would be much more versatile. To be honest, I’m still getting tons of use out of my 85mm F1.8 🤷🏽♂️
35 mm on a crop body is perfect for literally everything; that's my dream focal length
@abdullah khan can u suggest me plz what should I buy for my Nikon d3500 prime lens?
I recently picked up a Sony a6400 with a Sony 35mm 1.8 with stabilization. As a hybrid shooter...I'm in LOVE.
@@subhajitbiswas3946 35mm f1. 8
Should that be around a 50mm on a full frame, right? This crop factor thing is getting me so confused😂
valerio96uch yea between 50-56 depending on your system
A couple years later and this is still relevant. Thank you Julia 😊
Round of applause for Celeste for being patient and lovely. Great video as I'm about to buy an 85mm and I own both a full frame and crop camera.
This is exactly I was looking for, especially because it is for cropped sensors. I didn't know the difference between the sensors was that huge though, wow!
Mahalia is SO beautiful and I love when you do videos with her!!! These videos are so helpful to understand what lenses do, thank you so much!!
Yeah I'm a man and a bit sexist like that. I do like to see good looking women.
I was born like this.
@@zenoist2399 Oh dear!
My 3 Lenses are Full Frame used on a Crop Lens ( A6400 )
Just bought a Full Frame Camera so I won’t need any lens for a while 🙌🏻
16mm x 1.5 = 24mm
35mm x 1.5 = 52mm
85mm x 1.5 = 127mm
Thanks for video 💯
I'm not gonna lie : I came for Mahalia, I stayed for the content.
That's so well edited, genuine and informative, wow. Thanks a lot !
Great comparison. It was really helpful showing the standing distance between photographer and subject too. Filming from the side angle at 90 degrees is the perfect way to show the distance. All the other videos I have seen on RUclips show the photos being from behind the photographer or at and angle from the side so the perceived distance can vary greatly depending on the focal length the videographer is using, while the relative distance at exactly 90 degrees does not change. Thank for sharing.
Julia, apart from being beautiful, makes the best films about photography
Julia honestly I have to thank God for you. Not many RUclipsrs do side by side by side lens/ photo comparisons like this and it really helps beginners like myself just pause the video and understand the comparisons so simply. Awesome job! Please do not stop doing these 😍
I think thanking God for Julia is a good idea. Let's always thank God for everything!
@@mirosawkot4622 indeed
Each & every video of yours has been massively helpful! The content is great, the presentation is easily understandable & the comparison photos are what's really needed & you've got everything on point!
Julia is like that. She's just the best !
This video gave me so much information and really helps to choose the next lens. All other similar videos are usually made with full frame sensors. Thank you!
Thank you!! I really appreciate how you show the distance between you and your subject and the side-by-side comparisons.
This is the best detailed comparison video on RUclips. Brilliantly done by you. Thanks for such a video.
Clair, net, précis, intelligent, le tutoriel parfait pour aider au choix d'un objectif. T'es une championne Julia!
I think, Heaven sent her to us.
Wow finally a clear video that explains these damn technical stuff when I’m just learning and starting it. People throw out these numbers and it don’t mean anything till you see the exact examples. Thank you this is very clear and I learned all I wanted from just your video when watching hundreds not as clear
fantastic video! Pros usually forget that majority of people have crop frame cameras. Thanks for doing this fantastic comparison.
Thank you, so glad you liked it! :D
Awesome work on this video. So far it's the only video of it's kind to present so much detail and information on the topic at hand. Loved it. Learned a lot. Thanks. Keep it up.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Finding this video makes all the hours I spent researching worth it. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
This video is exactly what I wanted to see with distortion on close up portraits. You’re amazing for this.
I liked all the results with 50 mm.. and some of 35 as well.. I'm APSC user and don't think I hv mistaken by owning 50 mm,
Thanks for comparison.
Keep creating 🤟📸
im still deciding 35mm or 50mm i like mostly portraits but i like to capture some background too would the 50mm work?
50mm is tooooo narrow. I own it only because its F1. 8
@@refugioflores2226 im curious to know what did you go with 11 months later . I personally bought the 50mm f1.8 and the 24mm f2.8 pancake lens which are approximately 38mm and 80mm . I use the 24 to show more of the bg .
@@mohamadahmad7171 hey well after looking at a lot of reviews i bought the sigma art 30mm becasue it seems like the best sweet spot specially on crop sensor not too wide not to narrow and the quality its so good i wanted to get only one lens thats why i decided to go for that one. im still deciding if i should get the 50mm just for portraits but the 30mm its been doing very good for full body portraits and that focal length its very versatile
@@mohamadahmad7171 it all depends what you want to shoot what its your style but i would recommend sigma lenses they very good
Realy appriciate your work of you all doing this video possible. I am not English native speaker but anything is comprehensive, clear and instantly understandable. Thanks
Thanks for the side by side comparison. Used the head shots to demonstrate to my wife the effects of different focal lengths on making faces look thinner.
Ive been shooting FF for years now but just rented a 90D to try it out. The best thing about crop sensor cameras IMO is the price. 50mm lenses are considerably cheaper than 85mm lenses, so you can put a cheaper 50mm on a crop sensor camera and basically get that 85mm look for much less money. The 90D is fantastic. Bigger than the Canon mirrorless cameras with a better grip, but not as big and bulky as a 5D series camera. The 32.5 megapixel sensor is perfect IMO as well. The 45 megapixel of the R5 is a bit too much to be fast and useable and CF express cards are way too overpriced and the 20 megapixels in the R6 isn't enough. 32 is a nice in between sweet spot. I also love that you can put it in live view and get DPAF with face and eye detection as well. Pretty much the best of both worlds between DSLR and mirrorless IMO. I may have to pick one up soon.
Great video! :) For portraits 50 mm lens on crop body is really the perfect mesure, but I would like to add that 35 mm is way more practical for general use because sometimes we would like to capture a slightly wider angle. I would strongly recommend anyone who is in dilema which lens to pick, to start with the 35 mm lens on a crop body.
I'm thinking between 56mm and 85mm what would you recommend? I think i'll sometimes ne using it for video as well.
I definitely needed to see this cause I’ve watched so many videos and this is a sign
I have 35mm and 85mm.. And have a workaround to makeup for 50mm focal length.
With my 35mm on, I move towards the subject or crop in the image a little bit to get that 50mm field of view
For a portrait/wedding/fashion photographer having to be on the other side of the road might be seen as a disadvantage. But for wildlife and macro photography that extra reach is a definite benefit.
As more and more technology is going into ASPC, M4/3 and smaller mirrorless camera sensors I think the argument for selling lenses for their effective range on these cameras is getting stronger. So a 100mm lens made for a Canon crop would be sold as "effectively" a 160mm. I know I’ve over simplified the maths but I think it would help a lot of people just getting serious with their photography. So the Sigma Art 18-35 f1.8 ef-s, would still be sold as that lens but with 'Effectively 29-56' and whatever the aperture should be also on the box.
Another fantastic video, wonderfully done and it must have taken heck of a lot of work. Thank you.
I can imagine this would be such a positive for other styles of photography! Even for weddings where I like to stay out of people's way during the ceremony the 135 on FF is already more than enough distance for me but for wildlife, it would be great to be able to put as much distance between you and your subject as possible. And thanks so much!
Mark Harris wouldn’t the aperture also be affected by the crop factor?
yuvraj wadhwani yes it would! The problem with having an “effective length” is that it’s not entirely correct. There’s a very good video about it I saw a while back ago and unfortunately I don’t remember the title. But essentially, a 50mm will always be a 50mm. But there’s a crop, affecting the field of view. Therefore, if you use a 50mm on a apsc, it’ll be the exact same as using a 50mm on a full frame if you decided to crop the full frame photo. But the visual “effect” or characteristics a lens has will stay the same regardless of the camera.
@@adrianarmenta3572 agreed. The focal length does not change at all as it is a physical factor of the lens. Only the final image is cropped because of the sensor size and a slight difference because of the aperture change. Theoretically, the aperture should affect the image the same way if you adjust it taking the crop factor into consideration, and I do remember seeing a couple of videos that tested this theory as well.
yuvraj wadhwani It is, but I’m not clever enough to work it out, that’s why I said "whatever the aperture would be". For some mathematical or physic reason you don't multiply by the straight 1.6 as you do the effective range. I know it has something to do with the volume of light let in.
A really hard working video
But you nailed it... ❤
Julia is doing her job as usual
This has been SO helpful to break down the difference between crop and full frame, along with helping give visuals to what each lens can do! Thank you thank you! Brilliant!
Thank you so very very much, after watching your other videos on prime lenses, i recently bought a 50mm prime for my APS-C camera. After watching this video i feel so chuffed i made the right choice for my first prime lens.The 50 & 85 stand out for me. I loved the video, it looked time consuming & tricky to get it all done so i am thankful for your efforts and time.
Thanks for sharing. I just bought 50 and 85 mm on my crop camera. And now I’m super excited to try them. Looking good!!
Oh my goodness!!! I’ve been binge watching your videos. Thank you so much!!! I’ve been looking for a video like this everywhere.
This is the best video of lens comparation ever! unbelieveble, really good!
I completely agree !
This is the only video that literally helps us to decide on which lens to buy for apsc cameras... Perfect demonstration.. Thank u so much..
I’m glad you liked it!
Thank you so much for doing this. I have a crop sensor and I love portrait photography, so this comparison video is EXACTLY what I needed to help me decide what my next lens purchase will be. This is much appreciated
I've been struggling to make a decision between a 30mm (not 35 I know haha) and a 50mm for my a6400, I really like the "high" fov of a 50mm in a fullframe body and the only reason I wasn't sure about the 30mm was that I wanted the same or close to the same bokeh you get with a 50mm. Now I'm pretty sure i'll get what I was looking for with a 30mm f1.4 since I want that 50mm ff look:.
Being able to see instead of being told whats better really helped me make my decision, so thank you so much!
30mm on my A6500 is a great walk around lens but not a good choice for portraits (unless it's for a family and you have a large distance away from camera) for portraits of
Super excellent video explanation. I’ve been asking about these differences. And you’ve nailed it!❤
Im an APS-C user and this was fantastic video. Thanks Julia!!great job. I like the 50mm more :)
Thank you for making such a complete and helpful video, this is exactly what I was looking for
Thank you very helpful! As a Hobby photographer I have a 50mm for my Nikon was thinking of getting a 85mm for portraits .But I really like the 50mm pics more! LOL
Thanks for this one Julia, always good to see these kinds of comparisons.
Even today, so grateful for this comparison. Helps alot to determine what lense to use when.
Thanks for this comparison, I was looking for this. Planning to buy a prime soon!
Take care♥️
Thank you for this exhaustive test! It's really useful to see how the lenses compare both with same framing and when used from the same spot.
I must say, however, that the amount of distortion on APS-C and full-frame when you shoot with the same lens from the same position is exactly the same. Only cropping is different.
For the same aperture, the highest bokeh is achieved by increasing the zoom (focal length) and walking up to the subject i.e. getting to minimum focus range. This means that you can get INSANE bokeh with the longest focal length and walking up to the subject.
Also, for the same frame filling, the longer the focal length, the less the barreling(distortion) of the face, so your nose don't get blown up.
If you use a post processing program like lightroom, then you can correct for distortions and not worry so much about the lens used. Therefore, the focus becomes more about Bokeh and Detail in the photo.
Why use bokeh? It is to get a subject in the picture to POP. Other techniques used to get the subject to pop are - Saturation (this requires lightroom/photoshop to mask the surrounding and desaturate everything else), or Motion blur (keep the subject still, increase exposure length in a place with lots of movement).
The best way to achieve everything about making a subject pop is to use an 85mm wide aperture prime lens tune for chromatic distortions (chromatic distortions are the hardest to post-process out), go as close to the subject as you can, and bokeh everything else out, then post process with some saturation/distortion correction.
Since with the full frame you can go much closer to the subject, you achieve MUUUUCH more bokeh than with an APSC. You will also be able to take pictures with much less light for the same pixel density, so less noise distortion.
This video shows you that full frames can get more information in for the same focal length, but it totally missed the opportunity to show off the difference in BOKEH achieved.
The side by side comparison is helpful. Can see how proportions look different as well as background.
Thank you for taking the time to do this video!!!! SUPER INFORMATIVE!!!!
Your voice is so therapeutic! 😄 thank you so much for this comparison, i really needed this for my Crop lens DSLR 😊😊
Xoxo from Dubai!
Thank you for making this video, I was looking for this info everywhere on internet. :) Great Job showing showing your "actual distance" from the side shot, before showing the APS-C and FF photos.
Thanks, Julia, I'm glad I stumbled on you! Great delivery style, and everything I need to know.
best lens comparison on youtube. NO CONTEST, thanks
This is by far the best comparision video ❤️
Great comparison Julia, really appreciated by us photographers on a budget.
I love this series. My favorite lens on a crop frame is the 35mm, f1.8 - for all the reasons you described. It's awesome to see all the focal lengths together! Super!
You have done the most detailed vdo for photographers with crop sensors. Thank you very much. 🙏
I'd like to see how lenses specifically made for crop bodies compare with full frame lenses used on crop bodies.
Thank you Julia! I go with 35mm & 85mm for DX camera
Great video! I ended up getting the Sony 85mm 1.8 because I liked it the most from the various distances from the subject. I have the crop frame Sony 6400 and the subject filled the frame more how I like it. I felt like I would crop a lot of the full frame shots with nearly all the lenses.
From the experiments of this video, I feel like crop sensor is more suitable for potrait as the "Bokeh" is easier to achieve and less distortion whereas full frame camera is better for composition-oriented shoot such as landscape :) Both have their pros
I don't have the need to fix people all the time but I would like to put some here. Indeed the bokeh is worse on APS-C due to naturally wider depth of field. The equivalent effective aperture on APS-C is always higher than that on full frame. And distortion has nothing to do with crop or full frame. It's related to the distance you are to the person.
I just thought 100% the same thing.
Thank you! I was trying to decide between a 24 or 35 on my crop, I already have a 50 (full frame 80). I think I'll go with the 35, giving me a 50 full frame. 👍🙂
Just buy 17-55 f/2.8. You will love it.
@@Noeman2009 But in many situations you could just get closer or further from the subject by moving forwards or backwards rather than the camera zoom doing the moving for you, then you could buy a prime lens with a better aperture and better quality. A zoom lens would be needed for video that zooms in to the action like sports photography.
Pls educate us on what focal lengths are to be used for specific purpose. i.e. normal 35-70, portrait 70-135, landscape 18-35. Extreme wide angle - below 18mm etc. It will help the beginners to choose particular lens for their choice of photography. Your lens and camera body comparison was very informative.
Ive been trying to do a ton of research on which lense to buy for my cannon 80d im going to get and this has by FAR been the best video explaining the lenses! Im just starting out with photography and videography came across your channel and its very helpful!
Thanks for explaining this with so much patience Julia..
I would have gone mad to change so many lenses in that time period.
I almost did 😂 thank you!
after watching this i want a 135mm now!
Thank you very much dear for your video ... for me it’s the 85mm ! Just coz of the background compression
Thanks for comparison Julia! Btw I have Canon EOS 1500D and prime lens Canon 50mm f1.8 STM. Literally I love it.. for a low-budget photography.
It's important to understand that the distortion here comes not from the lens itself, but from how far away the camera is from the subject. This is why all the close up shots have larger noses. The model's face will look the same if you back up aways and take the photo with a 15mm lens and then crop in. This is perspective distortion, not lens distortion. Fstoppers did a great video on this.
I only came across your videos quite recently and immediately got hooked. Interesting topics - like this one, clear explanation and ravishing models (and photographer ;-)). Keep up the good work.
The photographer is the most pretty and charming.
Giulia oh mia cara !
ti prego salvami tu !
This is awesome. Now I don’t regret buying the 50 1.8 for my a6000. Thanks for educating us!
I too have the same lens for Nikon and it's quality is superb but still 85mm one would be still better. I wished I had lower pixel count say 14-16 mp but larger pixels. Using an APSC sensor.
Aryan the 85mm would be 127mm in my crop sensor.
@@maf3695 yes, you can use both. Actually I studied various literatures of expert photographers. The conclusion was, all had same opinion that 70-135 mm effective focal length was most appropriate for portrait photography. You can use any lens that meets this criteria. That's why many wedding photographers use 70-200mm f2.8 lens which is very expensive but versatile with constant aperture.
I am using 50mm prime but many a times wished to have little longer focal length lens.
Aryan some day we will be able to get that 70-200mm f2.8. I’ve been experimenting with 55-210mm f3.5-5.6 kit lens for the a6000 some pictures came out great and others just ok. But I will keep practicing. I’m grateful for Julia’s tutorials and thankful for you reply!
@@maf3695 use some software (dxo optics pro) and shoot raw. Even the basic settings give great quality photographs. We can even print big posters if shot carefully without any fault.
50mm f1.8 is a great and economic lens to start with.
I shot old monuments with great details and it was more prominent after I ran the raw file through this software.
The highlights, shadows, colour, contrast, etc were optimally adjusted and used de-noising tool to get clean & clear picture down to the pixels. I used 18-55mm kit lens with great result.
Use higher quality lens only when we reach that competency level.
Amazing video! It holds back the its value so well❤ and I think my new favorite its the 85mm... maybe until 85-105mm range
This is the most helpful focal length comparison I've seen. BTW I like that 35mm.
Finally!!! I've been hoping to come across something like this. Thank you so much for putting this together. Looking for my first prime lens. I do candids/wildlife so I'm torn between an 85 and 135-200 range primes for my crop camera. KILLED it on this video! Cheers!
On the portrait crop shots, the 85 lens looks really good. Normally, the 135 lens is ideal for portraiture when shooting 35mm film. In this case, the 85 looks really good. Perspective distortion is noticeable with the 24 and 35 lenses. Even the 50 lens isn't ideal for portraiture, but it does looks good here. Also, the shot with the 85 lens has a nice contrast to it. That may be the reason why it overall edges out the 135 lens. Thanks for sharing this video.
I made the same conclusions regarding head shots. The wide angle lens (24mm and 35mm) distort the model's face and are probably less comfortable for the model to pose to because of proximity to the camera. The 50mm looks ok, but not spectacular. The 85mm looks good and the 135mm makes the model look like a hollywood actress. Bokeh on 50mm and on 85mm is best for portraits, while at 135mm the background is washed out, which can be good and bad.
This is a very useful video, and your clear and methodical style of describing what you are doing makes it easy and enjoyable to watch, thank you.
You're the best! Just today I was thinking how the 135 photos would look as compared to my 85
I may or may not have a video about that coming verrrry soon 😬 glad you found this helpful!
@@juliatrotti now I don't regret getting an 85
MOST HELPFUL VIDEO EVER! Thank you SO much!!! I also really appreciate all the side by sides!!!
I have got a 50mm with a crop sensor and loving the portraits I am getting from it..!!
Thanks for all the hardwork, Julia!
It would be great if you can make a short video putting the equivalent crop photo to the fullframe side by side for everyone to see if depth of field is that much shallower on fullframe.
For example:
24mm on crop vs 35mm on ff
35mm on crop vs 50mm on ff
50mm on crop vs 85mm on ff
85mm on crop vs 135mm on ff
That would be great and thanks in advance if you are doing it soon :P
@@Kekmit you will tell the difference when u want a wider angle xD for example if i want 24mm on crop sensor it would give me 35mm so i need to take 18mm which will gave me a fish eye effect, i kinda find it hard especially im a landscape photographer but above 24mm still same fullframe and crop sensor
perfect comparison video Julia!!!!!!
You are excellent at what you do. These kinds of videos are great for beginner photographers like myself. Again, thank you so very much, you’ve earned a subscriber.
Hi Julia. I know this video is quite old and not sure you are answering (hope you do!). I wanted to get a light versatile prime lens for travel/casual situations. I read quite a bit that people prefer the 35mm for travel. Does that apply for crop cameras too?
I have a crop camera (Nikon) and wondering if I should get the 35mm (knowing that image might be crop) or a 24mm instead. Any comments, suggestions, advantages? Thanks!!
I like the 135mm but I don’t like standing so far! I’m thinking 85mm what would you use?
I'm the same, the 135 is beautiful but I feel too far away from my subject like I have to yell to give them direction haha I usually go for the 85 instead for portraits as its a nice mixture of both :)
Julia Trotti thanks julia😊
This was a major help I have a canon 80D and I have had 50mm prime for a while I just purchased 30mm prime and was wondering if it’s viable for portraits on crop sensor. This is great. this confirms 30mm on crop sensor was a good buy! Thanks for the video!
Difference comes out when you do night photography. Crop sensor doesn't work in many locations with poor light. At day light yes they are equal.
TYSM for this comparison! My fav is the 50MM Crop Sensor :)
You as the photographer are absolutely gorgeous. Thank goodness that you make videos & aren’t just hiding behind a camera. My new crush 🤓 oh btw, this video was exactly what I needed to know! I’m starting my YT journey with an a6100 & a sigma16mm 1.4f
If you got a crop camera as I...then the 50mm serves you the best...also you can use it too if you upgrade to a full frame camera
Best lens comparison video we have seen. Thank you
This is useful, because people cannot really tests that many lenses, before deciding what to buy. Keep up the good job.
Definitely 50 is the best lens for aps-c camera. I am buying a 50 F2 prime for my Fuji x-t4..
I appreciate the insight of the different mm in crop / full frame. Really helps me understand what I want to get. Thank you so much! :)
Direct to the point! that's what I like about your videos Julia! 🙂
This is SO helpful Julia thank you! I’ve been watching a heap of your videos and love them.
I recently bought a Sony a6400 and only just learned about crop frame!!! Is your 35mm lens in this video E or FE lens? I don’t quite understand the difference while I’m browsing lenses online
Most comprehensive and useful lens comparison video I've found. Thanks!
Thank you so much for this video!!! I will definitely check out more from you! Did you take these photos midday? The lighting and colors are so pretty! Do you prefer taking photos at a certain time of day (Golden hour)?
Great comparison. Your full frame comparison was also great!
Great Julia always makes great movies.
Thank you for the comparisons.
Maybe next you can comparing the equivalent field of view. For example, 24mm on crop frame camera vs 35mm on full frame camera and so on.
Look forward to watch your next video :D
Thank you and love that idea! I did that briefly in the crop frame vs full frame video that I linked in the description in case you missed it :) But would be fun to do this for all the focal lengths!
you basically lose bokeh, thats the only difference. so for example to make a 24mm 1.4 apsc look like a 35mm 1.4 you'd have to buy a 24mm 1.0 because less light is captured since the sensor is smaller