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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
- Nhl news today - The edmonton oilers st louis blues offer sheet week has come to an end, with the decision on dylan holloway and philip broberg becoming official this morning. Pretty big edmonton oilers news and st louis blues news for that matter. It was an interesting situation with doug armstrong stan bowman and their respective front offices, but now we can begin to see how edmonton oilers trades and signings move them forward from this, and how broberg and holloway integrate themselves into the blues young core. Nhl today blues oilers offer sheet 2024
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Oilers fan here. With the transactions we made before and after this news. We got picks, we got cap room, we got replacements, we got guys that can step up, we got some decent prospects back in Savoie, Podkolzin and Emberson. It sucks to lose the guys we did and that’s putting some hope in some guys we got.
I’m not too worried about it. Majority of the team is still back
I agree - it's not terrible and you got some decent young players back. However those young guys are not proven, and you're not just trying to make the playoffs here. You're in a Stanley Cup window - the expectation is to make the Stanley Cup Final again at the very least. After Bouchard, Kulak and Ekholm (no, Nurse doesn't count) the D is very thin. Is it the worst? No. Is it better than 15 or 20 other teams in the NHL? Possibly. Is it a top 10 D corps in the NHL? Maybe last year, not anymore. Are you really able to look someone in the eye and say with 100% certainty "This is as good or better defence corps than we had last year, and it is good enough to make the Stanley Cup Final again, but this time win the Stanley Cup."?
Nucks fan here, hope Podz can turn into a solid bottom 6 pwf for ya. Shame he couldn't develop in Van but def has potential
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So glad the Oilers let them walk. What kind of message would it send to all those guys who signed for less than they could get elsewhere (Janmark, Skinner, etc.) if two kids came along and got huge paydays? This move tells the team, "Go ahead and chase the bag somewhere else, guys sign here to win, not to make extra cash."
Then you have Skinner with 87 mil career earnings but never played a single game in playoffs. Young players chase for money and old players chase for the ring, only superstars are chasing for glory.
Agreed. I hate to see them go, but it’s hard to pay them then look at Drai and Bouch who have contributed way more and ask them to take less
Being either of Holloway or Broberg it's hard to say no to 2/3x the money you were looking to get in Oilers without these offer sheets. They got to think about their potential earnings over their short careers first. I'm pretty sure that if it was closer in terms of money both would probably rather stay in Edmonton.
Good take, thanks for making me feel better
It sends the message to the entire league that Edmonton is only concerned with signing McDavid, Drai, and Bouch, and bedamned the rest of the roster.
The cope from Oilers fans is off the charts. Your team just got worse.
Vancouver fan chiming in to say we're very sad to lose Podkolzin... you're lucky to have him
Podkolzin looks to have promise. Hopefully he pans out in Edmonton, and makes the most of opportunities.
Hoping management treats him accordingly, to further develop properly. Vancouver is in pretty nice shape themselves though, and are gonna be a threat again this year, no doubt. 🍻
He will bounce back in Edmonton in a big way I think.
Sometimes it's history with a team that keeps a guy stuck.
Hopefully Podz will pull up big for us.
@@Squishysforbreakfast like we kept Broberg stuck in the minors.
Kind words .. Pretty rare on the internet these days .. Thank you :)
St. Louis turned a 2nd and a 3rd into two 1st round picks that already have (some) reliable NHL data and experience while their career is still ahead of them. Honestly fantastic work by their GM.
@@Andrew_Holt Are you suggesting that the Oilers and other teams should cave to the salary demands of RFA's due to fear the of the possibility of offer sheets in the future?
THIS!!!!!!
Never blame players for taking money. However I happy they passed that 4 million for Broberg was way too much (which is why the Blues did it) for the player TODAY but he absolutely could be worth it by the end of the contract.
Oilers got cap compliant, a bunch of picks and a couple of cheap players to slot in for now not locked to cannot be traded for a year. It is a lot healthier than taking both players and absolutely having Kane away all season on LTIR because you cannot afford him. If he does not come back you have the money at the deadline to go after a big fish D man and the assets to make the trade. Which is not ideal but a much better situation.
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Oilers fan here. I am excited to see how Holloway and Broberg will develop in St louis, they both were looking good in the playoffs.
Understandable move by Edmonton given their pending FAs.
Great move by StL adding to their young core only giving up a 2 and 2 3s.
As a Blues fans, who cares if it's an overpay I don't think people understand how badly we needed someone like Broberg. Holloway is a great add too but the need for Broberg was way more... I love this. This could propel our team from being a team nobody really cares about who will be mid, maybe bottom 10-12 to a fun, young, energetic team that could surprise a lot of people. Doug Armstrong continues to show how great of a GM he is
Hopefully Broberg can be a Vince Dunn replacement
Oilers also milked an extra 3rd and a prospect out of the blues. Give credit where it's due
All of us Oilers fans will be sad to see both Holloway and Broberg go, popular players in our fanbase and they were starting to look promising. But I think the front office have done the right thing here. We are not a team that can afford to have young, developing players on large contracts, no matter how talented they may be. We are in win now mode, the only way you're getting a contract that big in Edmonton right now is if you are an immediate impact player who can be relied upon in (hopefully) another cup run. We have to look at the bigger picture, right now the priority is getting Drai signed up and then McDavid and Bouch next year. In a nutshell, this is the best case outcome to a less than ideal situation.
I'll miss Holloway and Broberg, but I do wish them the best of luck in St. Louis.
You wish the best to a couple guys that tried to satiate their greed, at the expense of your team? Really? Man, you have a long fuse.
I hope to see them out of the playoffs for the rest of their careers.
I'm for team STL, and I like these signings. Hopefully, these guys can bolster the offensive success. My reservations with the Blues happen to lie in their defense. After losing some key, top D men over the last few seasons, they definitely got weaker in that department, in my opinion. Regarding the Oilers, though: They're ready to hoist that Cup in 2025, and I'll be shocked if they don't.
As a blues fan it is what it is, but i wont lied im pretty stoked. What gets me is all these oiler fans who think they are gonna waltz right back to the finals. They got waaaay slower and are still one of the oldest teams...only reason you came back in the finals is cuz florida was tired from playing in back to back finals. Lets see what happens.
How did they get slower?
Excited for this young Blues team. Hoping to see some good stuff from these two.
I love this for the blues.
I dunno. Puts a target on Army's back. GM's are usually a tight group.
@@747Cone Holland wasn't ever the most popular guy and a lot of other GM's don't like Bowman either. Not sure how active JJ's role is.
@@747Cone I don't mind this argument. You've gotta be between a Dubas, who other GM's walked all over, and Bergevin, who GM's did not respect. That's why I like Hughes so much
@@747Cone GMs aren't a tight group, they might have meetings and such with each other but each GM is looking out for his team first and foremost and will work with any other team if the deal is good enough.
Still make you a crappy team with a 2 unproven players making way more then half the blues team that has been on the roster for 3-5 yrs. See you in the regular season, but for sure not in the playoffs..
As a Blues fan, I'm very happy with Armstorng's move here. The blue line needs some young blood. There are too many older, undersized d-men & too many no trade clauses. There aren't many defensemen prospects ready for NHL full-time roles. Kessel made great strides last season & I look forward to seeing how he progresses this season along with Tucker. However, they don't have as high a ceiling as Broberg. The Blues 1st round pick from this year, Jiricek, could become a very solid top 4 but he's not going to be ready for a few years. Yes, there is a bit of an overpay with the $4.5 million a year but it's only 2 years & the team has the cap. It's a much better use than bringing in some over 30 year old mid-tier veteran to eat minutes. Holloway is also a good pickup. St Louis has several promising forward prospects who will be cracking the lineup over the next few seasons so it's going to be fun seeing who Holloway fits in with. Having him on a line with Bolduc could be interesting. Holloway's speed with Bolduc's physicality might frustraate some defenders. All in all, it was great to see the Blues add some young, promising players who appear to be NHL ready. They've needed an acquisition like this for the past few seasons so brining in two 23 year-olds only having to give up a 2nd round pick, two 3rd rounds in different years, & a defenseman prospect Blues drafted in the 3rd round seems like a bargain. Now I just have my fingers crossed hoping both Holloway & Broberg meet expectations.
Good luck bro and holladay from edmonton. Will be watching from a far and keeping tabs on these guys down there.
Yeah that side deal with the same 2 teams means there was clearly no drama at all behind the curtains, the Oilers management knew they could part ways with these 2 without being hurt much in their cup winning ambition while getting that extra leverage room they needed. Saint-Louis was the perfect partner for that dance.
Oilers could have signed them both for half the price but they rather wanted warm bodies from FA to spend their cap space. They made their bed and now have to lie in it.
Nope, they tried to sign one of them for sure and he made clear for months. He was waiting for summer in hopes of something like this.
Thank goodness. Had we matched either one, we’d be saying goodbye to either Bouchard or Draisaitl next summer. that would’ve been up to $7 million against the cap next year when we need it all for them
2-3 years we blues will be back in playoff contention. (Was close to making playoffs this season) we Just brought in two great young additions to the team. Will only get better from here
Well, you better hope Holloway and broberg are worth the over spent money they signed just to stick it to bowman and the oilers.
Laine to montreal has caused the oilers to rethink their line up
I'm a Blues fan, and it's too early to give a final grade on the trade. However, I like the chances for the Blues. They got 2 former Round 1 picks for a bargain. The team is rebuilding and they can afford to take chances like this. If either player "hits", it was a great move. If not, the blues are only committed to 2 years.
I do know 1 thing. The GM playbook just changed forever. I'm guessing that every fan base is asking their team about their Restricted FAs.
People say that Broberg has been developing well… since when? He’s played 81 games and has failed to make any kind of an impact during the regular season. He played great during his 10 game stretch in the playoffs, but that’s the playoffs and only 10 games.
Broberg is certainly a valuable chip, but no contending team has over 4 mil to spend on a development player.
The Oilers have been keeping him back. Woodcroft superficially was holding him back. He also had more than one offer sheet come in(4 total actually) so multiple teams see something in him.
@@brianlb78it wasn’t Woodcrofts fault. I watched all 81 games he played and he did nothing with the opportunity. Not sure if you read my comment but I clearly stated that Broberg is still valuable. He could have gotten an offer sheet from every single team and as long as 1 of them was over the 2.5-3 million range the Oilers can’t afford him.
You’re talking about eating into cap that was set aside for Draisaitl for a player that MIGHT be good in 1-2 years.
@@dondraperbeats Nah it's pretty well known that woodcroft held him out a lot when he should of gotten minutes
@@brianlb78 and how much time do you think your bottom defensemen should average? Also keep in mind you’re criticizing how Woodcroft played him while Knaublock kept him completely out of the lineup for most of the time.
@@brianlb78 Nah its still on Broberg he hasnt developed like they had hoped. Bouch was treated the same and took off way better than Broberg did.
Pretty fuckin dissapointed they didn't match Dylan. Also concerned about the defense getting downgraded.
Downgraded??? You got the 25th highest paid player in the NHL and the 7th or 8th highest paid defenseman in the league…….
I like the thinking and moves by Oil management. Dealing with reality, and dealing smart
For the Blues it was no risk at all, their deals where only two years which is nothing and the team still has over 2 mil in cap space, more if they send down one of their other guys actually. For the Oilers I think you have to look at them and say are they a better team now than they where a week ago. I think most people will say they are not.
Will likely be more with Krug going LTIR.
Oilers aren't better, but they mitigated the harm best they could.
As a Blues fan I could not be happier
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Don’t know how I feel about this. My gut said keep them, but I feel like there’s a bigger plan here. Let’s wait and see.
Holloway maybe, Broberg no. That was too much money for a guy who hasnt done anything in his career yet. If his was half that amount I'd say keep him then too.
SAD for them to go. Would be MAD if we retained at an overpay.
"Since July 1 the Oilers have now said good-bye to three of their top 7 d-men from the 2024 playoffs: Vincent Desharnais, Cody Ceci and now Broberg.
They have lost four fast, young and skilled players in Ryan McLeod, Dylan Holloway, Warren Foegele and Broberg."
😲
Hate to see them go. But the fact is that both of them would be overpaid on a team with a core promising to take less money going forward. Broberg already wanted to leave and Holloway whether he did or not colluded with another player and his agent to handcuff the team into overpaying or losing them. I hope for Holloway's sake that he wanted to move or that the money is worth losing potential future earnings.
As an Oiler fan it sucks BUT Broberg asked for a trade in December and he got offered a big contract so it is what it is. As for Hollaway he could have stayed but he signed the offer sheet so he did not want to be an Oiler IMO. Best of luck to them but I an still an Oiler faithful and believe in my team...GO OILERS!!! 💧
As a blues fan I like it. They probably wouldn't have spent the money so taking a gamble on players like them on short deals. There's no losing from the blues side. We usually don't have cap to throw around so it's nice that Doug was able to for once. Worst case they don't work out and you lose a 2nd and 2 thirds( including the prospect and 3rd for future consideration)
Would’ve been an overpay if they accepted either of the offer sheets
Maybe if you didn’t pay a pylon, bottom 6 dman in Nurse 8.25 million you’d be in way better shape.
Overall it just may have made BOTH teams better. So the whole thing became a sort of love letter by St. Louis: "See you in the playoffs!"
As an oiler fan im pissed
Oilers fan, was no way to match it, they should of been signed long ago, now looking forward to wgaf the oilers do next
as a vancouver fan we will always have to get passed the oilers to win the cup, but i honestly think edmminton has the best chance next year at winning the cup, even if they knock out van ill still root for them to win the cup. they still have a great team its not much of a huge loss imp but i guess we will see soon
Greasy. I’d like to know the inside baseball on these GMs history
As an oilers fan
I’m not mad we didn’t resign Broberg
I’m mad we didn’t resign Holloway
Also, every single 1st round pick under Holland is now gone
2019 - Broberg (now on STL)
2020 - Holloway (now on STL)
2021 - Bourgault (now on OTT)
2022 - Schaefer (now on NSH)
2023 - Pick went to Nashville
Broberg was your 3rd best D at only 23! Your D core just got even weaker.
Wow.
Stings a bit to see Holloway go, but I'm happy to see him get his money, especially after watching him develop these past 2 years.
Broberg is a laughable overpayment for a 7th defenseman
Would you rather be paying Broberg or Nurse at their current AAV?
@@justincowen441 Broberg wasn't capable of taking over Nurses spot, let alone anyone elses in the line up. That's all that needs to be said.
@@NooBeRGoD you said seventh defenseman so that automatically puts nurse and broberg in the same conversation……
@@justincowen441 Broberg wasn't capable of taking over Nurses spot, which is why Broberg stayed as a 7th defenseman. Hes not good. Nurse also isnt great, but if Broberg cant beat that? LMFAO
Oilers idc how long it takes u better get revenge
Broberg would be an overpay if we matched it and he wanted out anyways so let him go, gonna miss holloway though
As a blues fan all im going to say is it really depends on how our core group of guys play this season. We’ve been mid the last 2 years. Maybe these 2 guys could probably wake kyrou up and make him consistent. But honestly kyrou is just depressing to watch and over paid imo.
Cap space moves. Good for the Blues. They will develop two first round picks nicely.
Broberg might be worth that salary in 2-3 years. But not now.
Calling it now, Rasmus Andersson trade is on the loom.
I think savioe/podz made holloway expendable i mean someone is gonna want that bottom 6 role broberg much less so but with the draisaitl + bouchard contracts coming soon you cant tie up 4.5 on a guy with less than 100 games there is a hole on defense but i dont think its unplugable
I just can’t wait for the season to start to see what my boys have been cooking
as a blues fan, i'm super excited to see how they fit in the lineup. we have a lot of bright young talent and i'm eager for snuggerud to join the squad as well. the blues are definitely headed in the right direction regardless. i'm gonna miss army after next season.
I agree with @paidshills completely! Does hurt losing 2 of your top prospects that you have deleveloped and been patient with! But clearly Broberg didnt want to be there now for a couple years. You could tell by even how he talked to the media last year in playoffs. I like Holloway and he seems like a good kid but he was buried on the depth chart now. They can use that $ wisely now and pickup another Right shot D.
That's why the Oilers are the favorite to win the cup, and the Blues are not. Cap management is the most important thing, overpays like that are never a good idea.
Oilers GM is a clown, the Oilers are a circus 🎪 🤡
idk man a 2nd 3rd arvidsson skinner savoie and cap space to sign drai and bouch for mcleod holloway and a defensive prospect considering he didn’t play all season in the nhl doesn’t sound too bad
Another loser just coming to comment cause he seen a video about the Oilers and just wants to shit post.
Very sad watching these guys develop and then leave
Blues fan here, love it! 👍🏻
jake neighbors shouldn't sign any contract with the blues...someone is gonna offersheet him.
Its tough loss for the Oilers and we'll miss their speed, their heart, and their timely scoring.
Honestly though. They're not Bouchard. They're not Draisaitl. It wont be fun to replace good guys and contributors on the team but right now thats not a problem Edmonton has. Skinner came here. Arvidsson came here. Henrique stayed. The buzz in the NHL must be that the Oilers are in the mix and cup chasers can roll the dice.
We'll have some moves to make because everyone looks like a fit on paper and defencemen are precious commodities but its not a gut punch and its not a bleeding wound. Edmonton will manage.
Id say the Blues make the playoffs now but who are they gonna kick out of the wild card? LA? Maybe. Nashville? Never.
I know i said it would be a disaster to lose them both but really we replaced them already, sad to see ceci go. Did'nt halloway have two shoulder injuries already? broberg can't hit at all. I liked halloway tho woulda been nice to keep him shoulda told his agent to shut up and sign with the oilers. the blues are'nt making the playoffs anytime soon. one thing is for sure the oilers/blues games just went up a notch in intensity. I agree with many comments here it would have sent wrong message to other players here.
Let's Go BLUUUUUUUES!
I don’t fault either of them for taking the bag while they’re young and I wish them the best with the Blues, it definitely stings to lose them. But I’m also kinda happy they didn’t match Broberg who clearly didn’t want to be an Oiler after requesting a trade and reportedly refusing to re-sign. I’m really gonna miss Holloway but we’re in win now mode and can’t afford to overpay young guys. If you want to be part of a winning team you have to take a pay cut, it’s just the way it is. (Like I said I don’t fault them at all for taking the money)
Crap!!! I sure wish they would have kept Holloway
Love it as a Blues fan.. Krug is likely done for the season and adding these 2 young "high" potentials should be fun to watch..
Bye Dylan and Philip you did us good bye
Despite all that the Oilers came out pretty good I think.
Oil fans should still be feeling better than fLames fans.
I mean we chose the lesser of two evils, and mitigated well, but we still lost.
@J.B.Ram1 it can still be neutral or a win depending on the prospects we brought in I say.
It's sure gonna suck for those 2 guys if we do end up with a cup this coming season
It would provided they would have played enough to get on the cup. It's a gamble for sure.
As an EDM fan I now hate the Blues as much as the Flames. I hope for the next 30 years we offer sheet every Blues RFA to troll them.
Holloway leaving makes no sense…
They are 'Now' players and the oilers don't need 'now' players, they already have that. they need tomorrow players. Good luck in st louis boys it's your shot, you gotta take it.
Really its a fail for everyone mostly Oilers though. Oilers could of traded Nurse for literally anything and put Kane on IR to clear up more than enough cap to keep these 2 plus so much more or use one of them as trade bait to get an already established D-man like Chychrun. Also fail for St.Louis, it might seem like a win but all Holloway and Broberg have right now is 'potential' both are still developing slowly and most likely wont have any real impact by the time their contracts are up again anyways.
Nurse makes 8 or 9 mil, who would take that 😂
@@tylerolthuizen3347 a team thats under cap and at risk of cap circumvention or what ever they call it. Edmonton would have to give up a first too though.
Could have traded nurse, lol.
@MrGamman3yt to who exactly? Easier said than done internet warrior. Besides, Nurse has a full no move. So he ain't going anywhere unless he wants to.
Right move, cap space is more important than these two iffy guys.
That's my take too. They MIGHT develop into great players but our cup window is now. I would rather win a couple of cups now and be crappier later, then ruining the chance at winning a cup so that we can be slightly better than mediocre later. Cap space is much more important for where we are at.
In the end, they would have made money anywhere, they wete a lot closer to winning the Stanley Cup in Edmonton, IMO short sighted, but now they will get more TOI in a losing cause.😢
My least favourite team is the blues now. See ya in the playoffs where we have a chance.
People expecting Broberg to walk away from a $9m pay day are insane. Whether he stayed in Edmonton, or went to St. Louis, after the 2 years was up he probably would have been making comparable money regardless of where he was. Now he gets to make WAY more than what he likely would have over the next couple years. Sad for the oilers, happy for the kid.
Those offer sheets were ridiculous for BROBERG AND HOLLOWAY. Keep them would send a wrong message to those players who signed less to win a CUP with the OILERS. They were both selfish . They went from a CONTENDER IN THE OILERS TO A rebuilding team still in ST. Louis. DYLAN HOLLOWAY MADE A HUGE MISTAKE IN ACCEPTING THE BLUES OFFER. Don’t make the BLUES OUT TO BE SAVY FOR THEIR MOVES AND OFFER SHEETS. These players have a lot to learn and prove plus there is no McDAVID AND DRAISATIAL on the BLUES to help them achieve success.,both BROBERG who evidently had an attitude towards the Oilers organization and HOLLOWAY who I will miss were selfish and that is not a team player. They were stupid.
Holloway could easily play on the Blues second line tbh Broberg could easily play over Leddy as well
Oh well, I guess no cup for Broberg and Holloway. I hope the more $$ was worth it?
True, But sometimes players don't think about cups until much later in their careers. These two are gonna develop (Hopefully) and be huge for the blues
When players make less than 4m an extra 800k makes a whole diff after taxes. They want money not cups bcuz their legacies doesnt depend on it if your a bottom guy
Two good young prospects but both Holloway and Broberg are big risks. Time will tell.
Not risky for the Blues. They are well under the cap and arent contenders, and it's only a 2 year term if Broberg and Holloway don't pan out. It would have been risky for the Oilers to make that gamble though.
What the hell is that Paul Fischer plus a 3rd in 2028? Is this a sweetener?
Ya interesting is this a gentleman's agreement for the Oilers not matching? Weird one why would you wanna deal with St.Louis after the offer sheets?
@@stealthstrikeyt263 Usually, you are upset at the team that steals young players from you.
Ya thats a very sketchy trade to follow up with 2 offer sheet steals.
It’s because the Oilers had the Cap Space to match Holloway and Broberg, so the blues threw Fischer and the 3rd in so they wouldn’t match.
Problem is both of them are over paid and if they don’t play up to it in the next 2 years on a team with little talent to help them they will be perpetually league minimum players their next contracts… so best of luck to them but there is a reason broberg was originally asking the oilers for 2 years at 1.8 million
Yep, ST pay, LT retirement.
The Blues aren't that far away. If just one of Dvorsky or Snuggerud are as good as advertised I would say the Blues will be scary up front very soon. By next year:
Buchnevich Thomas Kyrou
Neighbors Dvorsky Snuggerud
Holloway Schenn Bolduc
With plenty of cap space to spare. Those 9 right there only cost about 38 million, with only one bad contract. Six of them were drafted by the Blues. Only Buch is over 30. Those are all facts, capped by one hot take: Thomas only needs the national spot light for people to realize he is a borderline top 10 center in the league.
The Blues rarely have the superstars. When we won the cup we did it with 4 solid lines that could score--Barbashev was on our 4th line, which is absurd in hindsight. Our most expensive line was $17 million: Tarasenko, Schwartz and Schenn.
I like what the Blues are building. Even if Broberg is as good as projected, the D still needs work. However, knowing that LTIR has spared us a difficult Krug contract and money to spend, we have time to shop for a top 4D at a good price.
Oilers fan here, let them walk, another screw up by Oilers mgmt but if Holloway doesn't want a cup that's on him and Broberg is overpriced at that amount. Use the cap on Drai and try to trade Nurse at all costs
LMFAO you think the Oilers are winning the cup 😂
Slow down. You need to get to the finals first.
Not trade nurse no one take contracts 9 million off oiler hand stuck with him .
@@Andrew_Holt It'll be hilarious to watch your mom kick you out of your basement so you get a job
This was the smart thing to do. Shocked that Edmonton did it. They are a worse team now and were in cap hell.
I have to ask, do you think this would have happened if Bowman wasn't the GM of The Oilers. I mean this is a great move either way, but no one has done a double offer sheet before. Just curious if people think there's a lack of respect for Bowman in the league so other GM's are more likely to go after Edmonton now. I'm not saying that it is true, this probably would have happened anyway but interesting to think about
I dont think bowman being hired had anything to do with the offer sheets. It was just business....oilers trapped themselves in cap hell and were trying to lowball 2 legit prospects and other teams noticed and jumped at the opportunity.
would make more money in st louis. gets taxed 30 percent in edmonton only 4 percent in st louis
I don't know what hat you grabbed that number out of, but the tax in Edmonton would be 12.5% not 30%
33% federally and 15% provincially in Alberta. 37% federally in the US, and 4.95% in Missouri. The Canadian federal amount is lower on contract money classed as "bonus", at 15% instead of 33%, but the Canadian revenue agency is currently in a lawsuit to get the bonus reduction removed for hockey.
So, depending on contract structure and what the CRA lawsuit determines, taxes could be lower here, but will likely be lower there.
Either way, Oilers wanted both to sign for near league minimum so good for them for managing to get paid, and hopefully it works out for them n St. Louis.
@@justjohnny420 i made 180,000 in alberta living in edmonton in 2021 my take home was 116,000 34% taxes on my income.
Now get rid of Kulak make the space
Way to go EDM, wasted so much time and lost Broberg who will be an elite defender.
The Oilers are the most pathetic Team in the NHL
I'd rather live in STL than EDM tho
Stl is full of black violence
@tomcooks2562 wouldn't that be something if they got mugged on their first year there.
@@Andrew_HoltI've been to Russia. It most certainly is not better than Edmonton. Can't speak for St. Louis.
@@J.B.Ram1 Russia is absolutely better then edmonton. You're lying to yourself if you think otherwise
Double offer sheets is now a thing. Future off seasons are going to be interesting.
I’ll be interested how this will work out for both teams. I like both players they let walk but 4.5 for broberg was too much. Time will tell.
Doesnt matter much for st. Loius, they had the cap space and arent cup contenders for the next 2 years anyway. They are a young team with lots of prospects though, so karma will bite them in 2-3 years when they won't be able to afford them all.
Painfully common Stan Bowman L
I miss the days when it sounded like you were actually interested in what you were speaking about.
Broberg definitely overrated because of the playoffs. Underlying numbers were not good at all, and only reason more goals weren't scored while he was on the ice was Skinner's play.
This is great for the Blues. Yeah we overpaid but the way i see it, Give these two young players incentive to go out there and preform up to the money.
It comes down to the opportunities that the Blues give them. The Blues are as unpredictable of a team as they come right now but I believe they got this one right.
I hate St. Louis with a passion now
Obviously the Oilers cannot grow from the farm team. Sad sad sad.
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