The Failure of the Yogventures | The $500,000 Disaster That Ruined a Marriage

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    Today we're taking a look at YogVentures. One of the most disastrous Kickstarter flops / dramas of all time. Those who grew up watching Lewis, Simon and the rest of the Yogscast fellas may remember this one. If not, prepare for a dire tale including divorce, a startup filing for bankruptcy and thousands of unhappy backers.
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  • @Slippin
    @Slippin  Месяц назад +32

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    • @Harryshortsae
      @Harryshortsae Месяц назад +12

      take that vacation

    • @redfoxdog1
      @redfoxdog1 Месяц назад +9

      no thanks, bro

    • @MadCityVL
      @MadCityVL Месяц назад +2

      Bro I just found this is your new thing. keep up the good work!

    • @flamingo_with_tophat296
      @flamingo_with_tophat296 Месяц назад

      outro song is a jam and a half man

    • @junatah5903
      @junatah5903 Месяц назад +1

      I unironically downloaded Raid before my holidays and it was fun for the first few days, but it got boring.

  • @scritoph3368
    @scritoph3368 Месяц назад +1115

    A $500,000 dollar disaster that ruined a marriage? You mean the average Warhammer 40k army?

  • @qwimpy1247
    @qwimpy1247 Месяц назад +439

    Man, I never realised back in the day how quickly they went from the israphel thing to making their own game. 15 months! I thought it was years!

  • @demondude15
    @demondude15 Месяц назад +315

    re: the minecon drama. you missed out that Mojang sold the rights to the yogscast panel to IGN (iirc). They weren't upset that werent paid to show up, they were expecting that, they were upset that they werent being paid to show up and that the panel they were putting on free of charge had been sold without their prior knowledge and that they would not be earning a penny from that sale. That was the reason they were pissed at Mojang.

    • @brandthacker8913
      @brandthacker8913 Месяц назад +18

      Which seems pretty unfair to them

    • @RedTree_6767
      @RedTree_6767 Месяц назад +62

      This whole video is very poorly researched. Notch literally apologized for the things he said about them because they weren't true.

  • @nqrayback2411
    @nqrayback2411 Месяц назад +1938

    The worst mistake you could is check on a youtuber you enjoyed ~10 years ago lol

    • @SozIDontTHaveAName
      @SozIDontTHaveAName Месяц назад +91

      So many channels are just nuked to the ground and im too afraid to dig into why

    • @junatah5903
      @junatah5903 Месяц назад +60

      ​@@SozIDontTHaveANamea lot of things with the yogscast.
      Including a case (or 2 I think?) of some illegal activities between one or 2 of the members and being sexual with some minors.

    • @thebigidea9659
      @thebigidea9659 Месяц назад +56

      Did that when I wondered what happened to Cryaotic. Sorely wish I hadnt.

    • @Der_Udo
      @Der_Udo Месяц назад

      ​@@junatah5903 why in gods name is it always the minors? How comes they always go straight for the underaged?! It is so unreal how many of them do this? Are they imitating the Hollywood elite?

    • @totally-not-lost
      @totally-not-lost Месяц назад +107

      The Yogscast is a strange tale with lots of ups and downs, but considering how long they've been about it's surprising how successful they are at what they do.

  • @joelkipp7698
    @joelkipp7698 Месяц назад +745

    Yogscast definitely isnt what they used to be, but its still admirable to reminisce and watch their jingle jam charity streams, It seems to be something that brings back many old fans every year to raise millions for charity and have a good time, thanks for this awesome video slippin.

    • @YOGI-kb9tg
      @YOGI-kb9tg Месяц назад +83

      They still make good content but it's not like the old days. I'd say it all changed when Simon was hospitalised for a few years after that the yogs have changed, while Simon has returned he's not as prevalent as he used to be and more videos and streams are Lewis with others. Still all good content but they are a different group than they used to be.

    • @caulfield78
      @caulfield78 Месяц назад +25

      The triforce podcast with Sips, Lewis, & Pyrion is still very good. Sips himself is also still making great gaming content on Twitch which gets reposted on YT.

    • @wilfordbrimleyful
      @wilfordbrimleyful Месяц назад +2

      I miss the Trucking Tuesday stuff, those one off videos of super jank games were comedy gold

  • @jaredtseng9521
    @jaredtseng9521 Месяц назад +254

    Not defending the game but people shouldn't treat kickstarter like any other store.

    • @TheTIGSY
      @TheTIGSY Месяц назад +101

      People love to conveniently forget that kickstarter isn't buying a project, you are helping to ATTEMPT a project get made. And the 100s of warnings kickstarter and the page give you before you give a single penny about how there's no guarantee it succeeds 😅

    • @godusopp1797
      @godusopp1797 Месяц назад +24

      A lot of Kickstarters were mishandled after an avalanche of money, or straight up just scams
      In hindsight, it just makes everyone who was involved look like fools

    • @jekanyika
      @jekanyika Месяц назад +2

      I've backed a few failed projects in my time

    • @traviscondren834
      @traviscondren834 Месяц назад +2

      What is it Yahtzee said? "You don't keep a life raft afloat by throwing huge sacks of heavy coins at it."

    • @shabath
      @shabath Месяц назад +1

      Of course there is expectation of results, but people who have any idea about budgetting will have plans for the funds, and some are straight out scams. Much like gambling, only put in what you can stomach losing.

  • @TheGreatThicc
    @TheGreatThicc Месяц назад +109

    Their game looks like it'd have come out on the N64. Before he brought up looking like a fake ad game I was thinking "This looks like if Minecraft and Donkey Kong 64 had an unholy child"

  • @TheHolyCheesus
    @TheHolyCheesus Месяц назад +502

    he got raid shadow legends, he officaly a youtuber

    • @kamj6607
      @kamj6607 Месяц назад +8

      raid has some pretty low standards tbf

    • @LordVader1094
      @LordVader1094 Месяц назад +2

      ​@@kamj6607Yeah exactly

  • @GroundByte
    @GroundByte Месяц назад +100

    if there is one things from this, is that they did also learn from their mistakes. Now that they also have their own video game publishing company that published a handful of some pretty fun games.

  • @thoughtguardian
    @thoughtguardian Месяц назад +149

    It’s been interesting following the yogs for so many years now.
    Ventures was such a huge mess. I think it hurt a bunch of people and I think part of why it happened may have been because the Yogs was such a young group led by folks who didn’t have much experience with anything remotely similar.
    The group has faced more issues but I think like the members, it’s grown up a lot since then and that growth is seen in how newer issues are handled.

    • @pixellordm8780
      @pixellordm8780 Месяц назад +17

      I'm just saddened that the content isn't the same anymore, but I'm glad they're still around and frankly there's no way the old content would have lasted in this new day and age.

    • @user-ef5ug6jx5n
      @user-ef5ug6jx5n Месяц назад

      It's not a "young confused" thing to tell little kids who are fans of you and paid to see you at a convention to F off.
      That's just called "being a douche" things.

    • @XMysticHerox
      @XMysticHerox Месяц назад

      @@pixellordm8780 When you consider where a lot of similarly sized channels of that time are at they are doing pretty well.

    • @YOGI-kb9tg
      @YOGI-kb9tg Месяц назад

      ​@@pixellordm8780yea but there change of content is definitely how they are still around today. Variety content. Most of there good stuff is now on twitch and not RUclips.

    • @mr.raider7865
      @mr.raider7865 Месяц назад

      Did they ever talk about the jingle jam scam?

  • @zrush_daddwags_6957
    @zrush_daddwags_6957 Месяц назад +184

    To an extent this is one of the less disgusting feeling things. Theyre mostly just stupid. Like they didnt seek legal advice on a $35k contract...and paid in cash so theres no logs of a money tranfer 🤨

    • @borkbork9541
      @borkbork9541 Месяц назад

      Better than another grooming scenario; getting sick to my stomach with the frequency of that shit

  • @gonzoreader7391
    @gonzoreader7391 Месяц назад +517

    Slippin you’ve grown so much, don’t forget us little people bro

    • @Slippin
      @Slippin  Месяц назад +114

      Thank you gonzo! Also you're not little people and you won't be forgotten

    • @bigbananabill
      @bigbananabill Месяц назад +4

      this is so huge

    • @thequ6503
      @thequ6503 Месяц назад

      dont forget me...

    • @gerudo849
      @gerudo849 Месяц назад +1

      ​@@Slippin any plans to create a spinoff indie game?

    • @MrCythos
      @MrCythos Месяц назад

      Don't fall into the parasocial trap.

  • @SoFarSoGoodSoWhat14
    @SoFarSoGoodSoWhat14 Месяц назад +34

    That's funny they got in trouble for swearing, I'm pretty sure listening to the Yogpod back in the day was where I first heard someone say cunt, my tiny 11 year old brain was like 😵

  • @SaiScribbles
    @SaiScribbles Месяц назад +25

    I donated $25 to the campaign back then not thinking it was likely to succeed but hey I'd take a poster. I never even got that.

    • @003dylan
      @003dylan Месяц назад +3

      Woah I didn't think I'd see Sai while scrolling through the comments! Sad to hear you didn't get your poster

  • @jwb_666
    @jwb_666 Месяц назад +219

    YOU WERE BORN IN 2000?!
    I want to disappear 💀

    • @JM-mg4el
      @JM-mg4el Месяц назад +2

      Because he's younger or older than you?

    • @jwb_666
      @jwb_666 Месяц назад +10

      @@JM-mg4el ... I'm a millennial... As in I was born in the last millennium ☠💀☠💀☠

    • @Insanepie
      @Insanepie Месяц назад +35

      @@jwb_666did u not realise you are 30?

    • @Wulfjager
      @Wulfjager Месяц назад +9

      i too find it hard to believe that im an adult. time really does fly

    • @u.smccoolgeneral4539
      @u.smccoolgeneral4539 Месяц назад

      So was I

  • @the_soup2284
    @the_soup2284 Месяц назад +69

    People need to understand that donating to a Kickstarter isn't like preordering a game

  • @Xhomer367
    @Xhomer367 Месяц назад +25

    Honestly having grown up with the Yogscast and still supporting them for jinglejam, the fact after so long THIS is the major thing people bring up still makes me glad to have supported them.

    • @The_Archer-he2ft
      @The_Archer-he2ft Месяц назад +1

      One of the major things, along with their member issues and their lack of character nowadays, like just compare a recent video to just the first few gmod videos and it feel like their soul is gone

    • @Mystic-Midnight
      @Mystic-Midnight Месяц назад +10

      ​@@The_Archer-he2ft yeah but then you look at a Minecraft gartic phone and it's evident they're still there

    • @scarychewinggum
      @scarychewinggum Месяц назад +2

      ​@@The_Archer-he2ftI heard Simon and Lewis have pretty much switched places in terms of duo dynamics, as after Simon's massive health scare in 2017ish he seemed to calm down a lot.

    • @grantthiessen7552
      @grantthiessen7552 22 дня назад

      ​@scarychewinggum yea when I do go back and watch them for a little while Simon is never in any of the videos anymore unless it's a big event or something otherwise he stays in the background

  • @trevorduckworth2946
    @trevorduckworth2946 Месяц назад +32

    Man, throwing up the Chili Pepper's music video for Californication was a hit of nostalgia I wasn't ready for.

    • @donaldcuck2265
      @donaldcuck2265 Месяц назад

      honestly the fake video game gameplay in that music video was pretty good looking for back then

  • @freewilly1193
    @freewilly1193 Месяц назад +26

    Say what you will about mistakes of their past, but jingle jam is still the big thing for me round the holiday season, even though i live halfway around the world from them.

  • @TheBlackwolf5011
    @TheBlackwolf5011 Месяц назад +110

    notch: "they got drunk and swore in front of a bunch of kids."
    me on the daily at my job: "hey kids. shut the fuck up while I'm talking."

    • @SocietyIsSoFucked
      @SocietyIsSoFucked Месяц назад

      When I saw that I was like "oh thank fuck. I thought either Simon or Lewis was a pedo" swearing in front of kids is nothing. Hell I met them as a kid and probably swore more than they did.

    • @Gojeto346
      @Gojeto346 Месяц назад +9

      Not the flex you think it is

    • @TheBlackwolf5011
      @TheBlackwolf5011 Месяц назад +11

      @@Gojeto346 flex? woosh

    • @spetsnaz4537
      @spetsnaz4537 Месяц назад +1

      church pastor?

    • @radiocaster2k
      @radiocaster2k Месяц назад

      ​@@spetsnaz4537 church would be way more fun if the pastors could swear at the children

  • @BogoSort-dz1zg
    @BogoSort-dz1zg Месяц назад +48

    *flicks back copper coin. "You earned this back..."

    • @Slippin
      @Slippin  Месяц назад +9

      Ahahah the redemption arc

  • @ZeroFormLak
    @ZeroFormLak Месяц назад +133

    Arent those the guys that made the I AM A DWARF AND I AM DIGGING A HOLE DIGGY DIGGY HOLE

  • @CountGremlin
    @CountGremlin Месяц назад +40

    I remember watching their videos as a Junior back in highschool.. ahh good times.
    I hope Duncan and Sips are doing well.

    • @pixellordm8780
      @pixellordm8780 Месяц назад +8

      Angory Tom still makes good videos, I watch him still.

    • @junatah5903
      @junatah5903 Месяц назад +4

      ​@@pixellordm8780does Duncan do much anymore?

    • @pixellordm8780
      @pixellordm8780 Месяц назад

      @@junatah5903 mostly Minecraft. He hasn't changed much and stuck to the old formula after trying some other stuff out for a time. Give him a watch if ya can

    • @pixellordm8780
      @pixellordm8780 Месяц назад +7

      @@junatah5903 same as always fortunately enough actually!

    • @livid_spider
      @livid_spider Месяц назад +16

      Duncan and Sips are doing good, they’re both still active. Sips mainly streams now though and is occasionally in some HatFilms videos

  • @toml9969
    @toml9969 Месяц назад +4

    Taking notch's tweets as fact is.... A choice...

    • @Slippin
      @Slippin  Месяц назад +1

      Definitely wasn’t aiming to give off the impression I was taking his tweets as a fact,
      more just presenting the information as it happened

  • @Insanepie
    @Insanepie Месяц назад +22

    Isn’t jungle jam still the biggest stream on twitch in December?

    • @XMysticHerox
      @XMysticHerox Месяц назад +16

      Yep. As far as 10+ year old channels go they are doing pretty well.

  • @morgan3392
    @morgan3392 Месяц назад +18

    Homie mastered the Kenshi to video essayist pipeline.

    • @Slippin
      @Slippin  Месяц назад +4

      Thank you man, means a lot :)

  • @TheSilentQiter
    @TheSilentQiter Месяц назад +5

    Nah its' entirely on the development studies fault. Not a fan of yogscast anymore but they're only content creators. They are basically just the mascots for the game. Winterkewl were the ones to approach the yogcast and committed to being able to make the game. They set the financial goal of the kickstarter which was reached. Meaning they theoretically had all the funds they needed. So this expectation of preorder money coming in is just blatantly false. Even so, if they had an actual game to show they could've gotten preorders. That lack of additional cashflow is entirely on them. Also, immediately losing $35,000 within two weeks of the beginning of development is crazy. Even spending that much on an artist upfront is crazy. Also, if that artist basically stole $35k then post their name so other studios know to avoid them. Why help hide their identity if there's nothing legally requiring you to do so? Smells extremely fishy to me.

    • @3t9l
      @3t9l 16 часов назад

      I can't even hold it against that artist. POV: Your boss just gave you 35k with literally no strings attached. Lucasarts is somehow hiring you, meaning you'll get to work at a real company instead of the clown factory you're currently at, and not have this dumpster fire on your resume. You'd be insane not to take the money and run.

  • @bald0131
    @bald0131 Месяц назад +4

    Always makes me sad seeing videos about yhe Yogscast, they were my childhood. It's like looking at old photos, my best mate and I became so close cause we always spoke about Yogscast videos and played Minecraft together. Good times

  • @Ryxbar
    @Ryxbar Месяц назад +6

    Pivoting your channel towards doing these sort of niche documentary style videos was brilliant, I've been loving these coverages of real-life stories that I knew nothing about over the last few months. Wish you the best ^.^

  • @XMysticHerox
    @XMysticHerox Месяц назад +13

    With the Notch Minecon thing it seems unfair to not mention the various people standing up for them such as TotalBiscuit. And we know what Notch turned out to be like. To me frankly looking back it was a good sign they did not get along.

    • @HughAverageHomoMan
      @HughAverageHomoMan Месяц назад

      Notch was always kind of a weird asshole (transphobia aside)
      like in the IRC chats for the OG releases of Minecraft before it even had basic concepts like music he was offputting.

    • @azrielsatan8693
      @azrielsatan8693 Месяц назад +1

      God forbid you expect people not to use expletives at an event for children.

    • @XMysticHerox
      @XMysticHerox Месяц назад +13

      @@azrielsatan8693 It was not an event for children. Minecraft was not marketed for children at the time and while the audience certainly had children in it it was hardly limited to it.
      Again a bunch of other people there defended the Yogs saying they did not inappropiate. It was just Notch. The guy that turned out to be a literal white supremacist and generally unpleasent person.

    • @dw5723
      @dw5723 Месяц назад +2

      @@XMysticHerox Notch is based.

    • @azrielsatan8693
      @azrielsatan8693 Месяц назад +2

      @XMysticHerox ah yes, yt supremacy is when you say racism against white people is still racism. God forbid we don't have double standards and be not decent people.

  • @rocketbilly
    @rocketbilly Месяц назад +56

    I watched them so hardcore, even as a young adult! I loved Israphel so much ngl. I think I fell off a while after Sjin's farm, and, woof, that whole mess. Honestly there was a time, that even as a fan, I wrote Yogventures off as your a-typical Kickstarter garbage that wouldn't materialize. Their version of Whats Going On still goes hard though, even to this day.

    • @pixellordm8780
      @pixellordm8780 Месяц назад +10

      As soon as I laid eyes on it I knew it was a flop. Any game similar to Minecraft is doomed to fail sadly
      Saying this as a fellow diehard fan from the survival island series myself, loved these guys and I still watch Tom and Duncan from time to time.

    • @rocketbilly
      @rocketbilly Месяц назад +1

      @@pixellordm8780 Yeah, for real. It's hard to upstage a titan like Minecraft. Same with stuff like Terraria or even Stardew.
      You can only imitate, and given that period in time, part of me wishes they'd done an adventure game more than anything.

  • @FieldZy
    @FieldZy Месяц назад +4

    Shadow of israphel is what got me into minecraft

  • @KenoughsEnough
    @KenoughsEnough Месяц назад +4

    I really like your new direction. The deadpan was always great, but now you're incredibly unique.

  • @Rosewell8
    @Rosewell8 Месяц назад +26

    I stopped watching Yogscast when they ended Shadow of Israpheal, That honestly was, and still is, one of the most unique Minecraft series ever. The grand epic adventure and the feeling that they were just some guys that got caught up in it was honestly a lightning in the bottle kind of moment.

    • @dblackout1107
      @dblackout1107 Месяц назад +5

      They did things like it for almost another decade. Just saying

    • @chrisbowers4287
      @chrisbowers4287 Месяц назад

      ​@@dblackout1107 Jaffa Factory was the pinnacle of Yogs.

    • @dblackout1107
      @dblackout1107 Месяц назад

      @@chrisbowers4287 their Whale Lords series has some highlights too. There’s a particular joke with Simon and the copious amount of boats they have on hand inside one of the whales that I’ll never forget had me howling. “FIND…A BOAT! SEE IF YOU CAN FIND…A BOAT” in Grizwalds voice…there’s like 30 in the water

  • @paralobe
    @paralobe Месяц назад +122

    Fucking love this channel

    • @Slippin
      @Slippin  Месяц назад +21

      Thanks mate :)

    • @baronofclubs
      @baronofclubs Месяц назад

      Language! There's children reading this!

  • @biggestfanof300
    @biggestfanof300 Месяц назад +28

    To be fair, it's pretty shitty of the convention to not pay people to come and be on panels and whatnot. That game is, and always has been a money printer; not like they can't afford it. That's just gross.

    • @The_Archer-he2ft
      @The_Archer-he2ft Месяц назад +2

      I mean, 2011 was the literal second year of minecon with the first being just notch meeting a bunch of fans, not intdended to be some money printer

  • @OGHumorBot
    @OGHumorBot 29 дней назад +1

    I was one of the people that donated to the kickstarter for YogVentures, and I also played the beta version. I really tried to like what they were doing, but it was just not enough. They did later on provide steam keys for TUG, but it was also in essentially an early beta state and didn’t ever make it to completion.
    I eventually outgrew the Yogscast, and the failure of the project wasn’t something that really helped. At least I didn’t drop a ton of money on it, and I learned a very valuable lesson about not buying into an idea based on hype alone, and I learned it young enough for it to be a relatively inexpensive lesson

  • @maycontainnuts3127
    @maycontainnuts3127 Месяц назад +238

    never ask the yogscast:
    >what they did at minecon 2011
    >where the yogventures money went
    >what turps and sjin text about with their fans

    • @XMysticHerox
      @XMysticHerox Месяц назад +121

      "what they did at minecon 2011"
      You mean when now disgraced Notch vaguely accused them of being unprofessional and a bunch of peiple including TotalBiscuit stood up for them?
      "where the yogventures money went"
      They were pretty transparent about what happened even if it sucked either way.
      "what turps and sjin text about with their fans"
      The people they threw out very quickly after people spoke up about it?

    • @J00icus
      @J00icus Месяц назад +1

      @@XMysticHerox Imagine shilling for these subhumans. Get a life, freak.

    • @eaglemach9992
      @eaglemach9992 Месяц назад +15

      @@XMysticHerox I see you like young children too, go be with your kind, nerd.

    • @HughAverageHomoMan
      @HughAverageHomoMan Месяц назад

      out of the loop big time, what happened with texts?

    • @TheDreargamer
      @TheDreargamer Месяц назад +1

      ​@@eaglemach9992??? Bro was putting up fire counterpoints tho
      I don't like the Yogscast at all but I don't go around calling people who make good points defending them p*dos, pretty cringe of you guy

  • @stevend4544
    @stevend4544 Месяц назад +8

    Minecraft was inevitable if it wasnt yogcast woulda been someone else

  • @jacobwhite2359
    @jacobwhite2359 Месяц назад +6

    This looks like if the guy the guy that made Kenshi took Vicodin instead of adderall

  • @UrNeighboursDog
    @UrNeighboursDog Месяц назад +6

    That raid sponsor sounded so forced and fed up 😂

    • @TheSilentQiter
      @TheSilentQiter Месяц назад +1

      Hey buddy, you sound too young to understand this so I'll go easy on you. But yes, it was forced. Every raid sponsor is forced. No one actually likes raid. But ad revenue isn't enough money to live on so it's an unspoken rule for viewers to tolerate sponsors like this so they can still make a living wage. Only kids new to the internet don't know about this unspoken rule so I understand if you didn't get the memo.

    • @UrNeighboursDog
      @UrNeighboursDog Месяц назад

      @@TheSilentQiter my brother in Christ I am 25 years old I have been on the internet longer than RUclips has. I know about ad revenue for fuck sake all I was saying was he sounded fed up while he was voicing it when most RUclipsrs try and at least sound like they actually like the product they are sponsoring. Pathetic man having to write paragraphs out in response to a joke. Also you spelt quitter wrong in your username so maybe you're the young one

    • @sglyph
      @sglyph Месяц назад

      ​@@TheSilentQiterthanks reddit

  • @LikaLaruku
    @LikaLaruku Месяц назад +2

    I only knew Yogscast for their 3 music videos, but I adored the animation they made advertising this game's kickstarter.

  • @unitone6851
    @unitone6851 Месяц назад +45

    Great video, havent watched it yet but I know it will be.
    Also, Kenshi. I watched your Kenshi vids and its like crack. But worse.

    • @Slippin
      @Slippin  Месяц назад +10

      Thank you unitone :) means a lot

  • @Cho-hi783
    @Cho-hi783 Месяц назад +40

    NOTCH IS NOT A RELIABLE NARRATOR

  • @insurgencybuffoonery8065
    @insurgencybuffoonery8065 Месяц назад +1

    I really dig the new content you’re putting out. I’m sure people miss the Kenshi videos and to some degree I do as well. I get the feeling you are more invested in this video format and I’m excited to watch you continue to put out informative dives into internet culture! Cheers!

  • @ingusbingus8750
    @ingusbingus8750 15 дней назад +2

    Hey thumb man, i like these kind of videos but feel like the game videos with your editing style were my favorite content youve put out and some of the best on the plataform

    • @Slippin
      @Slippin  15 дней назад +1

      Ayy thank you mate! Honestly to me I feel like I’ve achieved what I wanted to creatively with my old vids and if I kept forcing myself to make them I’d run into an issue of the vids feeling repetitive and tired. Also the main issue was how time consuming they were to create. Video games don’t always cooperate with a narrative you want to set out, so it could end up taking a couple weeks just to get footage, then a few more weeks to edit them to a standard I was happy with. It honestly got to a point where I could rarely even see friends or my gf at the time.
      Shifting to this new style has been such a mental health boost, it feels way easier to create content I feel proud of. Plus I have way more control over how long a vid takes to release. That being said I want to constantly increase the quality of vids with my new style and keep creating stuff people will love :)

  • @erikofthenorse
    @erikofthenorse Месяц назад +2

    Yeah yogventures was a flop.. but they are still a publishing company and have a bunch of well recieved titles under their label.. not to mention they still have a massive following between youtube and twitch

  • @owencoolio8928
    @owencoolio8928 Месяц назад +3

    loved the effort put into this slippin, keep up the hard work man

  • @kwdblade4683
    @kwdblade4683 Месяц назад +2

    The RAID money was too much to resist, even for a frogman

  • @tsuchinokofamiliar8092
    @tsuchinokofamiliar8092 Месяц назад +9

    Honestly I’m surprised I never even knew about this I used to be such a yogscast fan back in the day.
    Loving the new vids like this they’ve been fun and informative :)

  • @ColonelCactus89
    @ColonelCactus89 Месяц назад +15

    This video reads more like a Yogs hit piece. Taking Notch as a narrator and ignoring the people on the Yogs side and ignoring critical information? Going into all that drama as if it was critical to Yogventures and then presenting speculation that it was relevant as fact? You take Chris and the devs at total face value and barely criticising them, almsot babying them about how hard they had it and how sad it was for them. Meanwhile you take constant digs at the Yogs and make petty little jokes. Everyone involved here was an adult - they were naive and too eager and they all fucked it up but it’s long past now. Christ the Yogs only got bigger but you give that a cursory acknowledgement even though you painted them as some controversy factory.

    • @Slippin
      @Slippin  Месяц назад +2

      It's definitely not intentional. Generally I tried to portray everything in an unbiast way. My pity towards Chris and the team simply came in response to how much the game appeared to be quite detrimental to their lives, especially for Chris himself and his marriage.
      In terms of the Yogscast, although I no longer watch them I adore Simon and Lewis and am really thankful for the great vids I enjoyed when I was younger. There were a few more jokes at their expense but that's just because they appeared to have come out relatively unscathed from the controversy. I didn't intend for the jokes to come across as serious, but more as a sign of my endearment to them if anything.
      As I mention in the vid, pretty much everyone involved just got out of their depth. There's no 'evil' party involved.
      That being said I'll take a closer look at my content going forward to make sure I'm not seeming biast to one side.

  • @pixelsafoison
    @pixelsafoison Месяц назад +4

    You were TWELVE?! - I feel so old, can't handle it, out for a walk kthxbye

  • @cron1807
    @cron1807 Месяц назад +103

    Imo they should have provided refunds as soon as the game became unfeasible. If they did that, I would chalk it up to basically the fact that shit happens and people are naive. But because neither group has, they have lost their reliability imo

    • @moreproblematic
      @moreproblematic Месяц назад +52

      The reality is they likely had no liquidity to afford to do that. Especially so early in the crowdfunding era, it really was basically untreaded territory for us average people to give money to projects like this. Ultimately the lesson learned long term, collectively, was that any Kickstarter or whatever is only to be used with money that could be burned and not be missed by the people funding.

    • @2782Jack
      @2782Jack Месяц назад +32

      I don't see how that's possible, they already lost a big chunk of the budget to the artists before development even started, even if you did refunds at the first sign of trouble you'd still be out 35,000$ of your own money just to afford the refunds and that's assuming the yogscast just have that much extra cash laying around
      I think the sad truth is that in projects like these as soon as they get mismanaged the money winds up paid out to the employees who use it for living expenses and after just a few months of game development any possibility of refunding the money is out of the question as it's consumed unless you plan to take out a big loan and ruin your life just to pay the money back
      someone has to eat the cost and at some point I just have to admit that if you pay money on kickstarter, it's a donation, they can pocket the money and run without even making a product if they so desire

    • @XMysticHerox
      @XMysticHerox Месяц назад +9

      No way they had the money for that. They shouldn't have tried in the first place is the reality of it. They have a decently succesful publishing company now but back then it was just some people with a recently succesful youtube channel.

    • @boozecruiser
      @boozecruiser Месяц назад +2

      Me when I'm a teenager trying to understand business

  • @astingilbert582
    @astingilbert582 Месяц назад +5

    Look's like CastleMiner Z

    • @AWESOMO5
      @AWESOMO5 Месяц назад +3

      Glad im not the only one who remembered that game

    • @xXxpowerbagxXx
      @xXxpowerbagxXx Месяц назад

      @@AWESOMO5 game was fun for like 3 days with my buddies

  • @hugopcc1
    @hugopcc1 Месяц назад +8

    thats the longest RAID shadow legends I've ever seen

    • @CPSPD
      @CPSPD Месяц назад

      Can’t wait to play my shitslop, now as a disgusting humanoid rat character!

  • @Pigulodo
    @Pigulodo Месяц назад +9

    Started watching them around this time in 8th grade. Being skeptical of everything, I had basically no interest in any products coming from RUclipsrs, and after seeing more and more videos of the game, I just had a feeling it'd all fall through anyways. By the time it was meant to come out I was in the latter years of highschool, I remember following the drama pretty vividly lol.
    On a side note, a potentially interesting topic for a video could be Star Citizen, the game's been in development for like 14 years and still isn't remotely close to being fully released/complete. It's like this weird pyramid scheme of a game where a lot of their funding comes from a smaller dedicated player base buying overpriced in game items like space ships and cosmetics. It's had an obscene amount of money put into it and isn't remotely close to completion after over a decade.

  • @demoncushion9600
    @demoncushion9600 Месяц назад +4

    Did they ever finish Shadow of Israphel? I remember waiting months for a new episode after they announced their game. I never checked back and only remember them when I saw this video

    • @connorupton4200
      @connorupton4200 Месяц назад +1

      I don’t think so. That cliffhanger devastated me back then

    • @bjorn0411582
      @bjorn0411582 Месяц назад

      They did not finish it, it took them many, many years to show what happened. They had this animator approach them to make iirc ep46 with this genuinely incredible animation showing what would happen if israphel manages to pull off his plans. That said whilst the animator got really far, he never finished his work and slowly began to ghost them. When weeks of work became months of waiting, it became harder to return to the show, when months became years, the wind was completely gone from their sails, and it was over by then.
      So like, today, the infamous ep46 is out there, in an unfinished state, so at least you can see what would happen after the cliffhanger.

    • @adm_ezri
      @adm_ezri 13 дней назад

      @@bjorn0411582 that plus eventually world saves became corrupted. there was a project to rebuild some stuff at one point w/boba but I don't think that got anywhere in the end. too much hype to ever live up to

  • @survivalsamuel
    @survivalsamuel Месяц назад +6

    Proud of your new journey Bro, your new stuff is super fun

  • @thesaltysandvich9257
    @thesaltysandvich9257 Месяц назад +7

    New Slippin Video dropped!

    • @JPR3D
      @JPR3D Месяц назад +1

      babe wake up

  • @iloveplayingpr
    @iloveplayingpr Месяц назад +2

    Am still holding out hope that they'll finish the Minecraft adventure.

  • @bryngoldsmith1848
    @bryngoldsmith1848 29 дней назад +1

    Luckily Tom and Ben still do their streams

  • @BarnabyCodswallow
    @BarnabyCodswallow Месяц назад +21

    2 minutes and 15 seconds of Advertisement for a shitty microtransaction phone/tablet game. That is, I believe, the longest embedded advertisement I've seen on this platform! And I've been here a shockingly long time! Wow!
    Please consider doing... LESS for your corporate masters. TYVM

    • @The_Archer-he2ft
      @The_Archer-he2ft Месяц назад +2

      Thats just RAID SHADOW LEGENDS for ya, over the top as ever

    • @steve3po13
      @steve3po13 Месяц назад

      Bro how hard is it for you to double click 12 times? Prolly longer than it took to make this comment... he made atleast 10k offa that ad brotha let him make his bag you aint never seen cash like that b4 😂

    • @BarnabyCodswallow
      @BarnabyCodswallow Месяц назад +3

      @@steve3po13 Oh man that's so cool i didn't even think about that!
      Stfu steve you're out of your element.

    • @steve3po13
      @steve3po13 Месяц назад

      @BarnabyCodswallow sorry kid but until you see 1k let alone 10k or even have a job, you're the one that's out of touch 🤡 stop playa hating and dick riding kid guys dudes gonna make his bag 😂

  • @zombiesalmon4997
    @zombiesalmon4997 Месяц назад +4

    Even if this game wasn’t that bad I still feel like a lot of people wouldn’t play it anyway because not everyone knows what the yogscast even is. It could be a brilliant game but i think a lot of people would be gatekeeped from playing it purely because it’s filled with in jokes and references that only the regular yogscast viewer would understand. Similar to why DanTDMs show didnt really take off. It barely had an identity. Sure it had Dr Trayaurus in it, but those are just characters from his Minecraft series. In my personal opinion, If i were a popular RUclipsr making a game, id probably start fresh- no characters from the channel or references to the videos but the same sense of humour. I wouldn’t want a bunch of 12 year olds running around the world saying DIGGY DIGGY HOLE over and over again. It’s like making a game about steve buscemi and naming it “buscemiworld” or some shit.
    I dunno, i cant explain it. I guess what im saying is id prefer to be known as the “RUclipsr that made a game” rather than the “RUclipsr that had a game slightly inspired by their videos made for them”

    • @The_Archer-he2ft
      @The_Archer-he2ft Месяц назад +1

      I mean, you gotta account for popularity in this too, like yes there were people who would not get the jokes but anyone interested in minecraft was bound to stumble upon yogscast, plus just from the looks of the game they were doomed since it looks so generic. Even with yogscast models it feels like some sort of movie tie game where they just put the movie characters outfit on polygons and said its good

  • @caelumking1206
    @caelumking1206 Месяц назад +3

    Slippin! Love it. Love the topic of the video, love the man, the myth the legend.

    • @Slippin
      @Slippin  Месяц назад +1

      Thank you king, too kind

  • @trevsweb
    @trevsweb Месяц назад +1

    As you admitted at the start Yogscast sold Minecraft to a tonne of people (me included) I think I bought 3 different versions. For notch to not recognise that and then go and abandon the project for a sweet 1 bill pay deal is pretty hypocritical and as they, rudely, stated were not appreciated by mojang. Kids liked the fbombing crudeness of Yogscast and I think it's a bit karenesq to demand them not to be themselves during minecon.

  • @sevlow4048
    @sevlow4048 Месяц назад +2

    Tbf they fucked this up but now they have their own game studio with a bunch of games they make themselves

  • @stechuskaktus3577
    @stechuskaktus3577 Месяц назад +1

    I liked the Kenshi madness a lot more, maybe Slippin is takeing a break from the sound of Corpseflies....

  • @jamesritchie598
    @jamesritchie598 Месяц назад

    I love your way of doing this style of content and the stories you've told, please do more!!

  • @cryogenical_
    @cryogenical_ Месяц назад

    It's incredibly ambitious to try and develop a game from scratch on a budget of half a million with zero experience. Especially because 150k od that is going to merch development, the 400k they had left barely covers game dev wages in California for a team of 4.

  • @TheWolfLuke
    @TheWolfLuke Месяц назад

    God i love how far you've come. Keep at it Slippin, love ya!

  • @barsyelken2518
    @barsyelken2518 Месяц назад

    Amazing work dude! Im glad that i sticked around after kenshi videos wich are equally entertaining

  • @spawnedblonde7131
    @spawnedblonde7131 Месяц назад +1

    Last thing anyone should do is listen to what notch has to say

  • @strawman3859
    @strawman3859 Месяц назад +1

    do the math if every fan of the yogscast bought the game it would still be a fraction of the insane success the game had even back then
    its a bit insane to say they had any effect worth measuring

    • @Jojozilla426
      @Jojozilla426 Месяц назад +3

      The first episode of their minecraft series got 5 million views which was more than copies of the game were sold at the time. They absolutely had a part in its success.

  • @jekanyika
    @jekanyika Месяц назад

    I never watched Yogscast during their minecraft days, but I watch all their new stuff

  • @NIL0S
    @NIL0S Месяц назад +32

    I had no idea who Yogscast was at the time, still bought 4 copies of Minecraft for me and my friends. The game did good because it was a good game.

    • @user-ef5ug6jx5n
      @user-ef5ug6jx5n Месяц назад +9

      By the time they were playing minecraft it was already a thing. It aint like they were on the original OG tests where the world was a 100x100 floating platform and there were no animals or enemies. Notch built the game up, by himself, using /v/. That's where the popularity came from, and where Yogscast got onto it.
      If anything 4chan should get the lions share of the credit for the games popularity. Or whoever made Infiniminer, which is where Notch stole the idea from.

    • @Tatwinus
      @Tatwinus Месяц назад +3

      Minecraft is still a huge game on its own merit. There have been hundreds of games that have been played by popular youtubers but none had the staying power of minecraft.

    • @XMysticHerox
      @XMysticHerox Месяц назад +13

      This is what we call anecdotal evidence. The Yogscast absolutely played a big role in signal boosting Minecraft early on.

    • @HughAverageHomoMan
      @HughAverageHomoMan Месяц назад +1

      @@XMysticHerox Cope. when minecraft got big I never heard of those clowns. its all a matter of perspective bud. btw drop the X X name shit, that crap died years ago.

    • @NIL0S
      @NIL0S Месяц назад +1

      @@XMysticHerox Not trying to prove a court case here. It's just very rare that I go out of my way to buy a multiplayer game for my whole friends circle. And Yogscast had nothing to do with it, is all. I'd say, if anything, they probably owe *their* success to Minecraft.

  • @Kazooples
    @Kazooples Месяц назад +1

    I backed Yogventures, only paid a little, I never even downloaded TUG, I was too pissed off lol

  • @SaitoGray
    @SaitoGray Месяц назад +1

    Who is notch?
    Minecraft is created by Hatsune Miku.

  • @ethanhogenmiller3465
    @ethanhogenmiller3465 Месяц назад

    Really enjoying these new videos!

  • @Cigareverend
    @Cigareverend 29 дней назад +1

    I used to teach little kids at the park to swear.

  • @goreobsessed2308
    @goreobsessed2308 Месяц назад +1

    Oh man that one hurt I loved the yogscast

  • @thatoneguy2816
    @thatoneguy2816 Месяц назад

    My boy slippin thought I didn't catch you slippin releasing a banger

  • @UnL1k3
    @UnL1k3 Месяц назад +4

    sigh raid sponsorship

  • @davelumsden8312
    @davelumsden8312 Месяц назад

    Loving the new video format Slip

  • @hyperventalated
    @hyperventalated Месяц назад

    I remember being really excited for this when I was younger. The vision I had for it was like a more adventure oriented Minecraft. Almost like a 3D terraria i guess, or maybe Hytale is a better example (although thats in dev hell as we speak). Also I quite liked the concepts for the frog guys. I think I suspended my judgement because even though it looked rough I knew all games looked like that at early points in development. It's unfortunate it couldnt reach beyond where it was.

  • @axelbostrom3606
    @axelbostrom3606 Месяц назад

    Ooof, this one tore open a closed wound... I don't remember what I pledged, but I remember the incredible disappointment in trying out TUG...

  • @deftheocelot9125
    @deftheocelot9125 Месяц назад +1

    slippin takin shots at the bigshots

  • @ayemate2945
    @ayemate2945 Месяц назад +1

    Excellent video Mister Slippin 😏🍷

  • @JetFresh
    @JetFresh Месяц назад

    They must be kicking themselves over how many minecraft clones there are on steam now.

  • @devilinthewoods3809
    @devilinthewoods3809 Месяц назад

    I'm legit curious about who actually installs Raid when they see these sponsorships

  • @deetrixreed8961
    @deetrixreed8961 Месяц назад +1

    ROFLLMFAO RAID SPONSOR!
    Don't trust those yogs, but trust in RAID SHADOW LEGENDS GIVE AWAYS!

  • @JomasterTheSecond
    @JomasterTheSecond Месяц назад +1

    (nobody else got paid)

  • @evry1sfriend619
    @evry1sfriend619 Месяц назад

    I thought your raids shadow legends plug would never end

  • @lordfriedrick7911
    @lordfriedrick7911 Месяц назад

    This is why you always need someone to keep a close eye to expenses and keeping the scope of a project on a reasonable level
    Everyone is always complaining about management companies mucking too much on gaming projects, and i'm agreeing, but they are necessary for not going overboard and ending up in development hell

  • @stikmen1235
    @stikmen1235 Месяц назад

    Love all your contact dude keep doing what you do 😊

  • @jackgriffi7826
    @jackgriffi7826 Месяц назад

    He got a raid sponsorship, he's officially made it.

  • @jacobwhetton1122
    @jacobwhetton1122 21 день назад

    We need a new kenshi video PLEASE I NEED IT!!!

  • @nunyabidness39982
    @nunyabidness39982 Месяц назад

    Man i had forgotten about this game, and the yogscast, completely. What a fucking nostalgia trip

  • @TheReal2Bert
    @TheReal2Bert Месяц назад

    I'm honestly still ticked off by what happened and the fact my consolation was T.U.G.

  • @thisfortheboys
    @thisfortheboys Месяц назад

    Lovin these new video styles that compliment your voice.