We hear the concerns around subscriptions! Don't worry - Perpetual licenses are still here! Creators can still choose to purchase and own the perpetual license, or opt for Studio One+ Hybrid. For those who choose Studio One+ Hybrid, you get the best of both worlds - a full year of Studio One+, with a perpetual license awarded at the end of 12 months! Yours to keep, forever. Learn more here: www.presonus.com/en-US/studio-one.html
no you don't "hear" the concerns at all. People who have invested in Pro should get 100% of StudioOne features. The Hybrid pricing model is just an upcoming bait-and switch. Why would ANYONE pay $399 for Pro when they can buy 1 year of Hybrid for $179 and then keep the perpetual Pro license. It's a pricing model DESIGNED to drive Subscription numbers and then try to retain them with "+ Exclusive" features that will break projects once the subscription runs out. Your users aren't dumb - we all see this for what it is. Time to move on.
Actually you are not hearing the concerns. You have users here that bought the pro version full price, and now are being told that in order to have acess to the full feature of an update, they have to buy a subscription on top of the purchase they already did!
@@fubearchu865 I really don't see what your problem is. Just cancel the subscription immediately and enjoy your Studio One Pro for less than half the regular price.
Ohhkayyy, just bought the Studio One 6 Pro upgrade two weeks ago and I'm not getting the new instrument unless I drop another 180€ on the sub. Nice way to reward your loyal customers, PreSonus.
lol at all the people who swore Fender would not push product development in negative ways.... PreSonus now introducing features of their DAW to ONLY subscribed users... it is the beginning of the end. Time to prepare for switching to a different DAW.
@@fubearchu865 i switched to S1 cuz it was "the underdog" back then. Now it seems like bang for buck is Reaper. I hate the fact that "u live long enuf to see small companies become the evil companies" is true. sigh.... it is a reptition of migration. leaving us as nomads..
yeah I just got a new m1 Mac studio and downloaded reaper on them system too, even bought pro tools again over the weekend after 13 yrs of not using it..been on studio one ever since, but seems like that is about to change real soon!
Just adding my voice to the list of disappointeed long-time users of Studio One who bought a license and have upgraded for years. What a slap in the face with the new virtual instrument only for subscribers. Did you sit in a room and think of how you could piss the most people off at once?
@@BlackInkProducer as i wrote in another comment, its not even them, its the money department calling the shots completely. S1 developers they are probably as sad as we with the direction things are going...
I've been using SO since version 3. Bought every update until now. I have noticed the evermore focus of the company in trying to get its users to change to a subscription model. Now, the cat is out of the bag, and the company is showing it's shameless tactics. A new update with content only available to subscription users. We paid for a full version and its upgrades, but now we're being charged by them if we want to have acess to new features. There's not a single feature on this update that I really want. In fact I believe its one of the poorest update that I remember. It feels like it was almost delivered to test the waters. Hopefully they will understand the message from their users and focus on realy improving their current product.
i’ve also been debating this for a while, as much as i like studio one and have become familiar with it & while the past few updates have brought things which i do think are useful (to others if not to me), i haven’t been captivated as i have with past updates. i kept trying ableton thinking “maybe i should stick to studio one and build my existing skills there to spend time actually making music instead of relearning” since i’ve already did years ago and now know all of the shortcuts, etc. but this kinda stuff has me unsure.. not even stuck on just the subscription (not fond of that either).. but thinking of all of the feature requests (trivial or non-trivial, new or QoL feature, etc) that i’ve seen over the years which have yet to be addressed. feel even more strongly knowing i already have a perpetual license for ableton too.. i’ll give credit where it’s due as i have been excited about certain features or fixes in past (spatial mixing, although cool, is not relevant for me.. i’m happy for others who it’ll help though) but i wish we’d see more of that direction/focus going forward.
PreSonus, you've got more comments than "thumbs up" on this, and that should be enough to empty a few offices. Fender, I applied for a role with your company with the hopes of preventing exactly this from happening to PreSonus Studio One. You hired the right person.
Whoever thought it would be smart to charge customers for a version upgrade and then not include what we paid to develop within the upgrade is slimy af. Do I care about this synth over the other billion I have that are better? No. But this is the first slimy move, I guess you guys didn’t see Bitwig screw up in a similar way, they heard community feedback and outrage and reversed this kind of decision, hope you do too, sets a horrendous precedent and makes me unsure about this DAW iv loved so much for years now.
Wait time out.. you realize you can buy the whole thing still right? Isn't that what they had before? they now only show one more option but everyone just grabbed the 400$ outright? it says anyone who grabs the permanent one gets the updates? im confused
They want to push the subscription service for the moment IMO. Lead Architect will remain a SO+ exclusive feature until the next major update drops. Regular users will probably have to wait until SO7 release... probably?
Unless I am missing something, this is just another way of doing Studio One +, which has always been subscription only. It doesn't sound like we are being forced into a subscription model for a regular license.
Hey! We still have Perpetual licenses -- that hasn't gone away! You can still choose to buy the perpetual license outright, or get Studio One+ Hybrid. With Studio One+ Hybrid, you get a perpetual license at the end of your 12 month subscription (which is only $180 USD vs the $399). You can learn more here: www.presonus.com/en-US/studio-one.html
What they mean is that you guys are only allowing the new VST for Studio One+ users and not those of us that have paid the highest price for Professional....
PreSonus? More like PreSubscription! People paid 400$ for Pro version + upgrades for years just so now "newcomers" could buy 1year subscription AND perpetual for 180$? Basically a big ol middle finger to your old customers.
So sad this wasn't an April Fools joke. 😭 This is the most tone deaf updates I have seen since the Bitwig fiasco. I didn't realize Fender would tank things so quickly. 1. - Partner with Tunecore (who is in the middle of a potential class-action lawsuit). 2. - offer a subscription-exclusive instrument. I am speechless... please tell me this IS and April Fools joke.
No, no, NO! Hear this, Fender / Presonus, whoever you are these days. I am NOT moving to the subscription model! I've been upgrading to my required versions since v1. I love working with Studio One. It's the best DAW out there. But this is just taking the piss! A new virtual instrument just for subscribers!?? What are you thinking!? I have alternative DAWs in mind. I don't want to jump, but you are pushing me and, I'm sure, many others away. Get your heads on straight. Stop being greedy. Listen to your customers and wonderful coders and get back to making good software for people who want to buy it outright, own it and work with it!
Hey Tom! We completely hear you on the subscription thing. Perpetual licenses are still here -- that has NOT gone away! You can still choose to buy the perpetual license, or get Studio One+ Hybrid. The choice is still there for you! Studio One+ Hybrid gives anyone the best of both worlds if they choose it... a perpetual license at the end of your 12 month subscription (which is only $180 USD vs the $399). You can learn more here: www.presonus.com/en-US/studio-one.html
@@presonus I have already bought the perpetual license when I bought Version 6! This is simply temptation to full subscription by the back door. Half way through a version I am being shut out of a new VST synth unless I pay much more money! Subscription with a DAW does not work. Even Avid have had to back-pedal.
Yes , Say that !! S1 is history thanks to fender taking over . The vst is not that good , compared to other vst instruments out there which are very good .
We do really need native modulation system in Studio One, we've been asking for this for years and that's the main reason why so many electronic music producers don't use studio one. please come on guys don't screw up studio one in the production field. And yes we do really hate that subscription only stuffs.
I've supported Studio One buying all versions since V3 including paid addons like Mix Engine FX , so it's really disappointing to see new features hidden behind subscription - I really didn't think Presonus would do that and it's a big slap in the face to long term supporters. Bad move.
Lead Architect should be available to all Studio One 6 Pro license holders. Bitwig tried this with their spectral suite and they had to reverse their decision. I hope Presonus reverse theirs and make Lead Architect available to all Studio One 6 Pro license holders. If not then those customers should skip future versions and go with another DAW. There are plenty good ones out there now.
no shit! I've been using studio one since 2011 that's how long I've been a pro user, and I have one of their studio live 32s mixers..been dealing with the shit instruments all this time and now the made a new one and I can't even get it. straight up bs!!
This is a scandal like Bitwig had with spectral plugins. Experience shows that if you want to force premium users to pay twice, you have no more than a week to change your mind. Bitwig had the courage to realize mistake and now this is the best daw of 2023. Let's see if Presonus can...
We hear you! We still have Perpetual licenses -- that hasn't gone away! You can still choose to buy the perpetual license outright, or get Studio One+ Hybrid. With Studio One+ Hybrid, you get a perpetual license at the end of your 12 month subscription (which is only $180 USD vs the $399). You can learn more here: www.presonus.com/en-US/studio-one.html
@@presonusmaking a synth available only to subscribers even if a guy paid the full price of a professional version it's just terrible and I think, by reading the feedback of the update, many people agree with me
I've kept up with paying for upgrades for over 10 years for Studio One Pro. Now, a slap in the face that they only provide the new instrument to subscribers. Looks like S1 will slowly die out. People will leave in droves. There are many more options when a company treats its most loyal customers like shit.
Interesting that Gregor's video promoting LeadArchitect is now unlisted after I just viewed it and expressed, with due deference to Gregor, my subscription complaint. It was public less than an hour ago, now it's not. Hmmm......
I have been a Studio One user since I started recording. It’s the only DAW I have ever used. Presonus would have to really screw up for me to leave. Today I start shopping around. Soooo disappointing. Maybe they will backtrack? I doubt it.
@@presonus how are you this tone deaf? Pro users should be the highest tier of users. We don’t care that these now “lower tier” licenses are available. You just downgraded Pro users and said subscribers get better features. Most people that have their finances in order see right through the subscription model. Not all of us like to be consumers for eternity. Give me a break with your “we see you” sympathy comments and just admit you guys want more money
very smart… the tunecore intergration when. There is a big controversy of them deleting artists albums etc. This and subcription based. Disguisting Bitwig tried the same but after the backlash they have gone back to the normal version
Hey there! We hear you on the subscription thing. We still have Perpetual licenses -- that has NOT gone away! You can still choose to buy the perpetual license outright, or get Studio One+ Hybrid. Studio One+ Hybrid gives you a perpetual license at the end of your 12 month subscription (which is only $180 USD vs the $399). You can learn more here: www.presonus.com/en-US/studio-one.html
@@presonus Who will buy a perpetual license in the future, that is castrated compared to the subscription, that most people don't want?! If you continue this path, I will follow several others and go back to a different DAW.
Wow...thanks presonus!!! Been loyal for ten years and you drop this? No heads up nothin. I did nothing but brag about this DAW and presonus. I called this though. Theres plenty of great DAWS now. Since studio one 6 nothing but let down. Theres nothing we say or do anyways. Wont change a thing. RIP STUDIO ONE. atleast you will have all those shiny new monthly subscribers!!!
Hey Eddie. Sorry if we've disappointed you with this update. Please note that we are continuing to offer, support and enhance our Perpetual licenses -- this commitment has not changed! Studio One+ Hybrid (previously Studio One+ Annual) is simply an alternative option for those who want the best of both worlds: one full year of Studio One+ with a perpetual license INCLUDED!
@@presonus I get all that. You just offer a new vst....which hasn't happened in forever...to the new hybrid users...but loyal so6 users for years don't get that. No heads up or anything. It doesn't sound awful but to not make it available to us is grimy and you know it. I mean just read the threads. There isn't one happy pro user and if it wasn't fender this wouldn't have happened. It's very gross. I'm sorry not that this would matter bc I'm just one dude... but everything I own presonus is gone after this. There's plenty of highly capable DAWS and devices. The only reason I stayed loyal was bc it was always user feedback that made it great. Not one update has been user feedback. Just read the comments alone on all of them. Fender took an amazing company and corporation'd it. 180 a year to upgrade. Every year. It's smart and it'll make presonus alot of money. Just bummed. This company could be way better because it was. It literally makes me sad.
i really can’t believe how presonus isn’t tired of dropping trash updates everytime…. why can’t they add features that actually have to do with production and making music? And now when they finally add something like a new instrument, it’s for subscribers only?!
@@dukeGed Tired of the desrespect from compainies like Fender/S1 . Fender has destroyed S1 . it's just a matter of time before S1 is histroy .Bitwig wins again !!!!
Hey there! We absolutely still offer and support Perpetual licenses -- no change there! Studio One+ Hybrid is just a separate option for those who would rather have the best of both worlds with a full year of Studio One+, AND a Perpetual license granted to them at the end of the 12 months.
I couldn't help myself and jumped into cubase 13 pro, it's a beast and I am really liking it so far. The UI has been improved in 13 and am hoping they continue. So if S1 keeps up with these terrible updates I am out.
I love that many of us have payed for S1 Pro and upgraded our DAWs for years and years and years, and ya'll still want us to pay for a lame subscription.
I like the hybrid licence, but the pricing is a stab in the back to people who bought the full studio one 6. There should be a way for the people who bought the full licence to get into the new scheme at least with an initial discount.
Back to Logic . I don't want to pay extra to get VI that other DAW have it in their standard pro pricing. I own the Studio One Pro version , paid every year for updates, I should get all the content or at least have the option to buy it separately, in perpetual. I don't like this business model. Good luck Presonus.
Full of disappointment 😞 i think mostly people have professional version of studio one why don't we get the new vst in it. This feels like you guys are forcing us to buy studio one+ for new instruments or vst.
This is really Sad and frustrating I used so many DAWs, cracked so many DAWs even Studio one but i loved it so much and paid for a Perpetual License and started supporting the work and even started buying plugins , all of this for you to come thank me this wayyyyyyy. Big LLLLL to you guys. I'm not going back to cracking but imma go support a better company. You ain't getting my money no more !!!!!
You gave practically nothing with the V6 upgrade. A dynamic eq and a vocoder, some live performance stuff nobody asked for and atmos. Now it's subscription only to get the new VSTi. Did you guys not see at all what happened to Waves?!? I'm seriously so disappointed. I've always been a proud Studio one user since V2, even bought an atom sq last week, now questioning how much I want to invest in the future. 😢
Those things can already be done with 3rd party apps, which are much better. I'd rather S1 is not bloated with a mediocre version of these tools. It is a very mediocre update, however. Edit: In reading the change log, I noticed there is an abundance of great and important fixes, for which I am grateful.
Glad I haven't updated since version 5 not really missing out on anything production wise and have transitioned over to Bitwig for better workflow and creativity.
I switched from cubase to Studio one some time ago, and it took me 20 minutes in cubase and 2 minutes in studio one... this software is very good. People learn to use what you already have.
I never comment on stuff like this. But come on - this is really getting out of hand. Can business decisions get this bad? I just recently purchased an upgrade from version 5 to version 6 for almost the same amount of money as you're asking for this Hybrid version. On top of that, you are offering features that are hilarious while still not being able to utilize my CPU cores, neither PC or Apple Sillicone. With every new move you guys are screaming "money, shares, growth, make more of our underappreciated customers pay longer for more stuff they'll never need, etc." Very disappointed. I admit I will miss the workflow of the DAW, but this is just getting out of hand. Bye bye
I'm afraid I need to learn another DAW. Have been with S1 since version 1. Pro user. Nothing useful for me as electronic music producer since v5, and not sure should I update since I see already where goes this ship. Still hope presonus team smart enough to learn from bigwig and waves experience.
We knew Presonus would shit the bed once they were acquired by Fender. Been using Studio One since v2, upgrade with every major release. 1. TuneCore is the most overpriced distribution solution out. On top of that, they're being sued for refusing payout to artists. 2. Apple AirPods reference monitoring? Provide us a native solution for mix referencing with hardware we actually use in the studio. 3. New synth release in a point update that's exclusive to Studio One+ users. Then you quietly change addons on your website to be available for purchase exclusively to Studio One+ customers. What kind of ass backwards shit is that when Studio One+ already includes access to them? Don't be surprised if you go the way of Cakewalk's Sonar after the failed Gibson acquisition when this is the focus of your updates.
So, this update just adds advertising for Tunecore (whatever the fuck that is) and Apple. Looks like the Fender effect has started.... Oh and as a bonus, they just included stuff for Plus members now, despite the fact we already paid for a perpetual licence. Moving in the exact opposite direction I'd like.
Oh this gets MUCH WORSE - Presonus have withdrawn all addon products from their store for sale. It's not just the new synth - Mix FX plugins, sample packs, XT Editor etc etc - they are all GONE and only available to subscription model now. WOW.
Very disappointe in the subscription crap that Fender is pushing. No way I'm gonna pay 2000 Swedish kronor for the new synth that should have been included at least for all pro users.
I'm a studio one+ membership sub and oh wow, a vst only available for us and not the ones who bought pro perpetual licences? As much as i try to see the "exclusive" benefit, it's just a dirty move there not fair at all. I hope this doesn't lead to good people trying to crack the daw more than it is now just for a VST that is not included in their pro perpetual licence because that would be a shame.
Hey, Michael! We still 100% offer and support Perpetual licenses. The Hybrid option is simply a separate option for those who would like a full year of Studio One+ ! Additionally, this option is less than half the price!
Not hard to see how you are completely our of control guys. these are all money moves and corporation moves. its probably not your own decision but decisions made by people who have no clue and no interest in music directly but are there to make money only. But the picture is pretty clear and im sad for a DAW that really made a difference. "Market economy" running yet another great thing down to the ground...
Bro you are doing great things for producers, but is it too much difficult to develop the drag view feature? We need this ergonomic feature into presonus studio one.
Ive been a studio one user since version 2 but this new update is beyond bad and to say there is only a new synth for those that subscribe really is shitting on customers that bought perpetual licences the update also seems to mainly aimed at mac users . Think at this rate the version 6 will be my last version i will be using of this daw not happy with Fender and this new business model of theirs
add my distaste for the subscriptions. You just offered a deal on these but no upgrade from perpetual to newer deal. It puts a bad taste in my mouth for studio one right now.
It would be nice if PreSonus understood that the hybrid model isn't the problem, but a missing features on an update is. New features on an UPDATE shouldn't be subscription ONLY. I've would've gladly paid for it with an UPGRADE. Well that and more features that we asked for, of course. You're putting us in a bad spot. We came to Studio One for a reason and now that reason is going away. Make it better PreSonus so we don't have to abandon a ship we actually like. And yes we know the perpetual license still exist.
soo, dear fender and presinus! what is this update about? is there any chance, that s1 will ever stop crushing on m1 under gpu acceleration? Did you use your own product with really big project? it is so bad. How about global autofade? Dim solo? Lfo generator for automation? No, you are playing with subscriptions and call it “update”. Great! Bravo! i think reaper or cubase is waiting for me.
Some say Lead Architect is not as half good as 3rd party synths, but that's not the point here. The point is that Presonus will probably try to hide more new features behind subscription thereby alienating perpetual license users. It's frustrating being alienated after all the money I spend on pro versions.
Thank you for all the upgrades. Would it be possible to switch focus to fixing the multicore issues many users are facing while using SO on the next update please? That would be really helpful as even with all these amazing things you keep giving us, being able to use it effectively is very important as well. As a SO Pro user, I cannot even have more than 10 tracks with multiple plugins on it without SO crashing or the CPU spiking. And I’m on an M1 Mac. Also on a side note, I may be speaking for several customers by saying this. Please stop forcing us onto a subscription model. If Fender really wants that then tell them to allow subscription for their Fender guitars as well. I might subscribe for an American Professional II Stratocaster at 9.99 a month for an annual payment of 120 on a Hybrid plan. 😂 If it sounds silly, that’s because it is. And that’s exactly what you’re doing with SO. 😅
I bought every 2 years the updates of pro version and now I have to sub for new features. Wow, I will switch to another DAW in the future with real new functions like AI integration.
I casually use Studio one its the only Daw I find user friendly I currently use Pro v4 but I had been thinking of upgrading to v6 as it includes the Show feature which would be really handy but now I am unsure. This seems very off plus the Presonus response to the comments has been a crapy copy and paste. Thats when you know you are a number at best. Please sort it Fender.
I can understand that perpetual licenses and subscriptions coexist. Nothing wrong with this, as long as perpetual licenses and product upgrades continue to exist, so Studio One+ Hybrid is fine to me. What I don't like is the exclusivity of the new virtual instrument to subscribers. We don't have many native instruments. Sampler libraries or even presets make more sense to me, but in my opinion, releasing this virtual instrument in this way is not the right way to go.
@presonus so when we continue to buy our S1 Pro upgrades, what do we actually get? as it seems to me that only if you pick the subscription models, then you will get all the new stuff and all the upgrades which have the things we need???
Really? Have you really evaluated that this type of subscription, which only provides some updates to those who have subscribed, scares away those of us who are users with a permanent license?
Presonus seems going to make the biggest mistake in their history. Looks like they are preparing us for a complete abandonment of the perpetual model in version 7. If this happens, then I’ll have to switch to Cubase.
Hello! Please know that we continue to offer, support, and enhance our Perpetual licenses -- and we have no plan for that to change any time soon. We value creators who prefer to go the perpetual route. Hybrid is simply an alternative option that packages a year of Studio One+ with a perpetual license included.
@@presonus Thank you for response. I don't think hybrid is an alternative, because it includes features that perpetual version does not have. It would be an alternative if the differences concerned only the license type and payment schedule.
Presonus are a victim of their own success - make something good and the corporations turn up to squeeze the user base. I've been an S1 user since v2. FWIW I will never use a subscription service.
Hey Mark! Perpetual licenses haven't gone anywhere -- you can still buy and own Studio One Pro perpetual. This is still available and ready for ANYONE! Studio One+ Hybrid is simply and additional option that was formerly our "annual" subscription, but now ALSO includes a perpetual license at the end of the 12 months!
@@presonusWhen you say perpetual licences are still available can you please add an asterisk stating that NOT all features are available with a perpetual licence?
I would like all plugins and instruments to be available to use with other DAW's as well. Switched to Reaper and couldn't be happier, but I miss the vsti's from Presonus.
I rolled my eyes when Presonus made the ability to edit samples in their flagship sampler a paid feature , releasing a synth only for subscribers is an obvious attempt to drive users to subscription. At the very least make the synth available for purchase.
This is actually gross... Hyping up a new synth in a Studio One update video, only to tell us it's only for your subscription model clients a few seconds later. If this was in a Studio One+ Update, fair enough. But to see an update video for a product I've paid for, only to be told I only get it if I pay more is pretty blind. Especially considering how many people watching this video have bought the most expensive version of your software. You keep saying that perpetual licenses are still here, but it's clear that you only care about your subscribers... I've never considered moving away from Studio One. But I'm starting to think about it...
Hello! We totally hear you on the subscription thing. Don't worry - Perpetual licenses have NOT gone away! You can still choose to buy and own the perpetual license outright, or get Studio One+ Hybrid. Studio One+ Hybrid gives you a perpetual license at the end of your 12 month subscription (which is only $180 USD vs the $399). You can learn more here: www.presonus.com/en-US/studio-one.html
I used to use this DAW until recently after being a long time steinberg user. But something tempted me back to cubase and boy so glad i did after seeing this marketing mess who knows what the future holds feel really sorry for Studio One users right now blimey what a mess.
I’ve been a loyal Presonus customer for 15 years. In 2022 I decided to take the plunge and try Sphere instead of a perpetual license. My experience has been horrible. If I am traveling and come back to my recording studio after a few weeks, Studio one has to verify I own all of my products all over again and double check my subscription has not run out. I am constantly having connection errors to the site and it locks me out of products I have paid for. It’s happened enough times now I finally decided f*ck it I’m never going to buy a subscription DAW again. The most important thing to a musician is to be able to sit down and be up and running in seconds. Impedance of any kind when inspiration strikes is the worst feeling you can feel in the studio. I gave presonus’ subscription model a chance and it failed me. So I planned to go back to perpetual purchases. Now I’m watching them completely f*ck over their perpetual customer user base and it’s making me seriously look at other DAWs for when my sub is up in June. Smh!
You have officially lost a customer. I will not continue to just let subscriptions run my life. I pay for the Pro version I should get every single feature until 7 is released. I really hate what this industry has become. I will be switching to Logic or Reaper shortly. Treat your Pro buyers like well….Pros. You guys have lost your way and my wallet will be voting elsewhere.
This update, and specifically new “hybrid” license model and S1+ exclusive features, is nothing but bait to attract new users *_at the expense of your existing ones._* I really hope the S1 user base can rally like the Bitwig user base did because this is a complete kick in the teeth.
If they were smart, they would have literally been the same price. So you feel like you are getting something instead of being forced into something, but WTF do I know?
This decision by Presonus is regrettable. I have been updating my perpetual versions since Studio One 3. What I considered unique and sensational were the features added to each version, which made me fall in love with this Daw. Version 6 so far has only released uninspired updates, with a lot of useless features that contribute nothing to the workflow, with this latest update being the culmination, completely contrary to what its oldest customers admired about this DAW. Totally disappointed, I hope you review this decision.
Hi! Don't worry! We still have Perpetual licenses! You can still choose to buy the perpetual license, or get Studio One+ Hybrid. Studio One+ Hybrid is just an option that's taking place of our existing annual subscription... except now you get a perpetual license at the end of your 12 month subscription (which is only $180 USD vs the $399). You can learn more here: www.presonus.com/en-US/studio-one.html
@@presonusyou know that when you make the synth exclusive to only plus users your not right. Please Fender. I've got 5 of your guitars. The jazz ultra bass is sooooo good but don't do this. I am a plus user! I pay every month. So I'm not even worried about me. Make it right. Please.
I don’t know about this one. I like Presonus but teaming up with Tunecore might backfire.. imagine paying a subscription to release music onto a platform only for them to take it down and not give you any reason. And will lead Architech be available as a perpetual add-on in the future?
Hello! We still 100% offer, enhance, and support perpetual licenses. This hasn't changed, and we have no plan for it to change. Studio One+ Hybrid (previous our "Annual" plan) is simply and alternate option for creators who want a full year of Studio One+ with a perpetual license included!
@@presonusBut youve removed all add-on software from sale, including the new synth, and made it subscription only? That's what people are mad about, not the subscription model itself.
@@presonuswhat is your answer to those like @jaydee98989 who point out that you are restricting features previously available to license holders now only to subscription holders?
@@presonus what is your answer to those like @jaydee98989 who point out that you are restricting features previously available to license holders now only to subscription holders?
@@presonus what is your answer to those like @jaydee98989 who point out that you are restricting features previously available to license holders now only to subscription holders?
Underwhelming 6.5 update for perpetual S1 users, extremely underwhelming 6.6 update for all day to day users, new and shiny updates for subscribers only and shady new partnerships. Puh, this will be a tough week for Presonus' customer services and social media teams and also for the actual coders. Please don't take it personal. It's not your fault. It's the fault of your management.
Who in the world wants to upload his song straight to Tunecore… useless features.. while we are still waiting on tons of useful ones…like modulations, real bus freeze… oh Yeah and just saying. Dolby Atmos is overrated.
Lead Architect only for + members? Why I struggled 2 years to own a professional version by rent to own? The SO already lacks on this side and now when something new drops, makes it only + ? I think it is time to sell my license and update my Live to v12. I trusted you @presonus !!!
We hear the concerns around subscriptions! Don't worry - Perpetual licenses are still here! Creators can still choose to purchase and own the perpetual license, or opt for Studio One+ Hybrid.
For those who choose Studio One+ Hybrid, you get the best of both worlds - a full year of Studio One+, with a perpetual license awarded at the end of 12 months! Yours to keep, forever.
Learn more here: www.presonus.com/en-US/studio-one.html
Hybrid could perhaps be interesting to those with up to date perpetual licenses if you offered a commensurate rebate.
no you don't "hear" the concerns at all. People who have invested in Pro should get 100% of StudioOne features. The Hybrid pricing model is just an upcoming bait-and switch. Why would ANYONE pay $399 for Pro when they can buy 1 year of Hybrid for $179 and then keep the perpetual Pro license. It's a pricing model DESIGNED to drive Subscription numbers and then try to retain them with "+ Exclusive" features that will break projects once the subscription runs out. Your users aren't dumb - we all see this for what it is. Time to move on.
Actually you are not hearing the concerns. You have users here that bought the pro version full price, and now are being told that in order to have acess to the full feature of an update, they have to buy a subscription on top of the purchase they already did!
Thank you for this Presonus. Hybrid is the best deal in the industry! Please don't take it away.
@@fubearchu865 I really don't see what your problem is. Just cancel the subscription immediately and enjoy your Studio One Pro for less than half the regular price.
Ohhkayyy, just bought the Studio One 6 Pro upgrade two weeks ago and I'm not getting the new instrument unless I drop another 180€ on the sub. Nice way to reward your loyal customers, PreSonus.
You're not alone. I just bought the upgrade to 6 three months ago.
I just bought studio one two days ago. And the update become way more controversial.
Congratulations bro, you're a lucky one for sure.
Pro users paid for the most expensive version, they should get all the plugins and instruments, what is this.
Preach
It's shocking to see this kind of update. Very inappropriate
Agree bro I have professional version
Agree. Disappointed in a company I have/had the highest respect for. Also a paid pro owner.
Including the fat channel add-ons and high density pack.
lol at all the people who swore Fender would not push product development in negative ways.... PreSonus now introducing features of their DAW to ONLY subscribed users... it is the beginning of the end. Time to prepare for switching to a different DAW.
Yup, Reaper here I come again.
@@BlairBCollins installing reaper right now.
@@fubearchu865 i switched to S1 cuz it was "the underdog" back then. Now it seems like bang for buck is Reaper.
I hate the fact that "u live long enuf to see small companies become the evil companies" is true. sigh.... it is a reptition of migration.
leaving us as nomads..
Very well stated . Bitwig here I come !!
yeah I just got a new m1 Mac studio and downloaded reaper on them system too, even bought pro tools again over the weekend after 13 yrs of not using it..been on studio one ever since, but seems like that is about to change real soon!
Just adding my voice to the list of disappointeed long-time users of Studio One who bought a license and have upgraded for years. What a slap in the face with the new virtual instrument only for subscribers. Did you sit in a room and think of how you could piss the most people off at once?
Looks like they are just doing the bidding of their corporate overlords now.
Nobody asked for these. None of the comments in the past year asked for this. Come on guys.
Indeed👍🏽.
@@BlackInkProducer as i wrote in another comment, its not even them, its the money department calling the shots completely. S1 developers they are probably as sad as we with the direction things are going...
I like it, nothing against it.
I've been using SO since version 3. Bought every update until now. I have noticed the evermore focus of the company in trying to get its users to change to a subscription model. Now, the cat is out of the bag, and the company is showing it's shameless tactics. A new update with content only available to subscription users. We paid for a full version and its upgrades, but now we're being charged by them if we want to have acess to new features.
There's not a single feature on this update that I really want. In fact I believe its one of the poorest update that I remember. It feels like it was almost delivered to test the waters. Hopefully they will understand the message from their users and focus on realy improving their current product.
Exactly what my experience too. I've been with it since version 3 and same thoughts.
My move to Ableton is complete justified. Personus dropping the ball hard here.
i’ve also been debating this for a while, as much as i like studio one and have become familiar with it & while the past few updates have brought things which i do think are useful (to others if not to me), i haven’t been captivated as i have with past updates. i kept trying ableton thinking “maybe i should stick to studio one and build my existing skills there to spend time actually making music instead of relearning” since i’ve already did years ago and now know all of the shortcuts, etc. but this kinda stuff has me unsure.. not even stuck on just the subscription (not fond of that either).. but thinking of all of the feature requests (trivial or non-trivial, new or QoL feature, etc) that i’ve seen over the years which have yet to be addressed. feel even more strongly knowing i already have a perpetual license for ableton too.. i’ll give credit where it’s due as i have been excited about certain features or fixes in past (spatial mixing, although cool, is not relevant for me.. i’m happy for others who it’ll help though) but i wish we’d see more of that direction/focus going forward.
Except Ableton crashes 24/7
@@JakeyWakey Not here. No crashes yet. sessions of 100 tracks +
PreSonus, you've got more comments than "thumbs up" on this, and that should be enough to empty a few offices. Fender, I applied for a role with your company with the hopes of preventing exactly this from happening to PreSonus Studio One. You hired the right person.
Whoever thought it would be smart to charge customers for a version upgrade and then not include what we paid to develop within the upgrade is slimy af. Do I care about this synth over the other billion I have that are better? No. But this is the first slimy move, I guess you guys didn’t see Bitwig screw up in a similar way, they heard community feedback and outrage and reversed this kind of decision, hope you do too, sets a horrendous precedent and makes me unsure about this DAW iv loved so much for years now.
Soon as I heard they got bought out I switched back to Logic Pro
Wrong move
Bitwig precedent was an evidence of what not to do!
Even protools did the same thing
Wait time out.. you realize you can buy the whole thing still right? Isn't that what they had before? they now only show one more option but everyone just grabbed the 400$ outright? it says anyone who grabs the permanent one gets the updates? im confused
Wow, subscription only? I never thought id see this day. Fender is messing up big time.
They want to push the subscription service for the moment IMO. Lead Architect will remain a SO+ exclusive feature until the next major update drops. Regular users will probably have to wait until SO7 release... probably?
Unless I am missing something, this is just another way of doing Studio One +, which has always been subscription only.
It doesn't sound like we are being forced into a subscription model for a regular license.
Subscription gave companies waaaay more money
Hey! We still have Perpetual licenses -- that hasn't gone away! You can still choose to buy the perpetual license outright, or get Studio One+ Hybrid.
With Studio One+ Hybrid, you get a perpetual license at the end of your 12 month subscription (which is only $180 USD vs the $399). You can learn more here: www.presonus.com/en-US/studio-one.html
What they mean is that you guys are only allowing the new VST for Studio One+ users and not those of us that have paid the highest price for Professional....
PreSonus? More like PreSubscription!
People paid 400$ for Pro version + upgrades for years just so now "newcomers" could buy 1year subscription AND perpetual for 180$? Basically a big ol middle finger to your old customers.
Exactly.
So sad this wasn't an April Fools joke. 😭 This is the most tone deaf updates I have seen since the Bitwig fiasco. I didn't realize Fender would tank things so quickly. 1. - Partner with Tunecore (who is in the middle of a potential class-action lawsuit). 2. - offer a subscription-exclusive instrument. I am speechless... please tell me this IS and April Fools joke.
Shocking why the synth is not available to pro versions at least? Push push push to subscribe when nobody wants to.
No, no, NO! Hear this, Fender / Presonus, whoever you are these days. I am NOT moving to the subscription model! I've been upgrading to my required versions since v1. I love working with Studio One. It's the best DAW out there. But this is just taking the piss! A new virtual instrument just for subscribers!?? What are you thinking!? I have alternative DAWs in mind. I don't want to jump, but you are pushing me and, I'm sure, many others away. Get your heads on straight. Stop being greedy. Listen to your customers and wonderful coders and get back to making good software for people who want to buy it outright, own it and work with it!
Same here
Hey Tom! We completely hear you on the subscription thing. Perpetual licenses are still here -- that has NOT gone away! You can still choose to buy the perpetual license, or get Studio One+ Hybrid. The choice is still there for you!
Studio One+ Hybrid gives anyone the best of both worlds if they choose it... a perpetual license at the end of your 12 month subscription (which is only $180 USD vs the $399). You can learn more here: www.presonus.com/en-US/studio-one.html
@@presonus I have already bought the perpetual license when I bought Version 6! This is simply temptation to full subscription by the back door. Half way through a version I am being shut out of a new VST synth unless I pay much more money! Subscription with a DAW does not work. Even Avid have had to back-pedal.
@@tam_ryan1036 This turns me away as well. Thinking hard about moving back to Cubase.
Yes , Say that !! S1 is history thanks to fender taking over . The vst is not that good , compared to other vst instruments out there which are very good .
We do really need native modulation system in Studio One, we've been asking for this for years and that's the main reason why so many electronic music producers don't use studio one. please come on guys don't screw up studio one in the production field. And yes we do really hate that subscription only stuffs.
+1000
I've supported Studio One buying all versions since V3 including paid addons like Mix Engine FX , so it's really disappointing to see new features hidden behind subscription - I really didn't think Presonus would do that and it's a big slap in the face to long term supporters. Bad move.
Yup 👍
Lead Architect should be available to all Studio One 6 Pro license holders. Bitwig tried this with their spectral suite and they had to reverse their decision. I hope Presonus reverse theirs and make Lead Architect available to all Studio One 6 Pro license holders. If not then those customers should skip future versions and go with another DAW. There are plenty good ones out there now.
no shit! I've been using studio one since 2011 that's how long I've been a pro user, and I have one of their studio live 32s mixers..been dealing with the shit instruments all this time and now the made a new one and I can't even get it. straight up bs!!
Fender please dont mess this daw up like your friend Gibson did with Sonar
They already did it.
@@RomellAlaman I'm afraid so
It's a done deal S1 one is in the history books on how to destroy a daw
That's what Fender for, they just keep Ruin everything they are like virus
This is a scandal like Bitwig had with spectral plugins. Experience shows that if you want to force premium users to pay twice, you have no more than a week to change your mind. Bitwig had the courage to realize mistake and now this is the best daw of 2023. Let's see if Presonus can...
a week has gone by, nothing has changed. farewell S1
Fuck subscriptions. If they keep moving in this direction, I'll change DAWs. Done it before.
We hear you! We still have Perpetual licenses -- that hasn't gone away! You can still choose to buy the perpetual license outright, or get Studio One+ Hybrid.
With Studio One+ Hybrid, you get a perpetual license at the end of your 12 month subscription (which is only $180 USD vs the $399). You can learn more here: www.presonus.com/en-US/studio-one.html
@@presonusmaking a synth available only to subscribers even if a guy paid the full price of a professional version it's just terrible and I think, by reading the feedback of the update, many people agree with me
@@presonus no I don't think you do "hear" him / everyone.
@@adrianpaul3749it's not a big deal. I think the new synth will be available in version 7.
@@ELLIOT8209I afraid version 7 will have subscription model ONLY.
I've kept up with paying for upgrades for over 10 years for Studio One Pro. Now, a slap in the face that they only provide the new instrument to subscribers. Looks like S1 will slowly die out. People will leave in droves. There are many more options when a company treats its most loyal customers like shit.
I'm in the same damn boat bro..a slap in the face for sure.
Ditto 👍
Same.
Sadly same here..
12 years here...I'm certainly looking at other options.
Interesting that Gregor's video promoting LeadArchitect is now unlisted after I just viewed it and expressed, with due deference to Gregor, my subscription complaint. It was public less than an hour ago, now it's not. Hmmm......
Love Gregor, hopefully he can talk some sense into S1.
I have been a Studio One user since I started recording. It’s the only DAW I have ever used. Presonus would have to really screw up for me to leave. Today I start shopping around. Soooo disappointing. Maybe they will backtrack? I doubt it.
Hey, Eddie! Totally understand your concern. Please know that we continue to offer and support Perpetual licenses -- that isn't going away!
@@presonus can I gift mine to someone else since it is no longer useful for me?
@@presonus how are you this tone deaf? Pro users should be the highest tier of users. We don’t care that these now “lower tier” licenses are available. You just downgraded Pro users and said subscribers get better features.
Most people that have their finances in order see right through the subscription model. Not all of us like to be consumers for eternity. Give me a break with your “we see you” sympathy comments and just admit you guys want more money
Just read a lot of comments. 90 percent of them are upset at this subscription nonsense me included. You might lose me soon!@@presonus
Since the Fender acquisition, the writings were on the walls… Reaper to the rescue for me!
Yep, I held out hope, but this really sucks.
very smart… the tunecore intergration when. There is a big controversy of them deleting artists albums etc. This and subcription based. Disguisting Bitwig tried the same but after the backlash they have gone back to the normal version
Hey there! We hear you on the subscription thing. We still have Perpetual licenses -- that has NOT gone away! You can still choose to buy the perpetual license outright, or get Studio One+ Hybrid.
Studio One+ Hybrid gives you a perpetual license at the end of your 12 month subscription (which is only $180 USD vs the $399). You can learn more here: www.presonus.com/en-US/studio-one.html
@@presonusWe've all heard a lot of negative feedback about TuneCore. It's sad to hear that you are turning to the wrong place.
@@presonus Who will buy a perpetual license in the future, that is castrated compared to the subscription, that most people don't want?! If you continue this path, I will follow several others and go back to a different DAW.
@@Chris-62 amen
@@Chris-62 i have a perpetual license, if i lose out on features compared to subscribers, ill just download a crack
moved back to Cubase a few weeks ago and it’s so much better.
Wow...thanks presonus!!! Been loyal for ten years and you drop this? No heads up nothin. I did nothing but brag about this DAW and presonus. I called this though. Theres plenty of great DAWS now. Since studio one 6 nothing but let down. Theres nothing we say or do anyways. Wont change a thing. RIP STUDIO ONE. atleast you will have all those shiny new monthly subscribers!!!
Hey Eddie. Sorry if we've disappointed you with this update. Please note that we are continuing to offer, support and enhance our Perpetual licenses -- this commitment has not changed!
Studio One+ Hybrid (previously Studio One+ Annual) is simply an alternative option for those who want the best of both worlds: one full year of Studio One+ with a perpetual license INCLUDED!
@@presonus I get all that. You just offer a new vst....which hasn't happened in forever...to the new hybrid users...but loyal so6 users for years don't get that. No heads up or anything. It doesn't sound awful but to not make it available to us is grimy and you know it. I mean just read the threads. There isn't one happy pro user and if it wasn't fender this wouldn't have happened. It's very gross. I'm sorry not that this would matter bc I'm just one dude... but everything I own presonus is gone after this. There's plenty of highly capable DAWS and devices. The only reason I stayed loyal was bc it was always user feedback that made it great. Not one update has been user feedback. Just read the comments alone on all of them. Fender took an amazing company and corporation'd it. 180 a year to upgrade. Every year. It's smart and it'll make presonus alot of money. Just bummed. This company could be way better because it was. It literally makes me sad.
i really can’t believe how presonus isn’t tired of dropping trash updates everytime…. why can’t they add features that actually have to do with production and making music? And now when they finally add something like a new instrument, it’s for subscribers only?!
exactly, well said
@@dukeGed Tired of the desrespect from compainies like Fender/S1 . Fender has destroyed S1 . it's just a matter of time before S1 is histroy .Bitwig wins again !!!!
So i upgrade the pro version every 2 years , and also need to pay every month ? I guess 6.6 is the last version ...
Hey there! We absolutely still offer and support Perpetual licenses -- no change there!
Studio One+ Hybrid is just a separate option for those who would rather have the best of both worlds with a full year of Studio One+, AND a Perpetual license granted to them at the end of the 12 months.
Yup me too, presonus is shitting on long time pro users....too many bad signs now...
@@presonussubscription 🤮🤮🤮
@@presonus not true
What is next? A subscription to use the pianoroll? A subscription to use a limiter?
@@LunarBuzz subscription for a key scale snapping
Add on subscription for individual faders.
@@BlackInkProducer a subscriptionnto get rid of the start of opening screen
Cubase has a competitive upgrade discount. It seems quite tempting! This feels like the Avid nightmare all over again.
I couldn't help myself and jumped into cubase 13 pro, it's a beast and I am really liking it so far. The UI has been improved in 13 and am hoping they continue. So if S1 keeps up with these terrible updates I am out.
I bought it just a few days ago. Looks like I made the right decision.
Yup...agreed...I have to take a look at Cubase, and other daws from now on. Fender just fucked up, and showed their ugly business model....
already moved to Cubase after 10 years with studio one, since V3. and to be honest, the learning curve is not that bad. Cubase is a great DAW.
The one video with 100% negative reaction. At least now realize what customers are demanding and make a change.
I love that many of us have payed for S1 Pro and upgraded our DAWs for years and years and years, and ya'll still want us to pay for a lame subscription.
Funny seeing you hear brosef, but hard agree, sad times for our favorite DAW
Been paying Pro since Studio One 3. Done with it.
I like the hybrid licence, but the pricing is a stab in the back to people who bought the full studio one 6.
There should be a way for the people who bought the full licence to get into the new scheme at least with an initial discount.
Back to Logic . I don't want to pay extra to get VI that other DAW have it in their standard pro pricing. I own the Studio One Pro version , paid every year for updates, I should get all the content or at least have the option to buy it separately, in perpetual. I don't like this business model. Good luck Presonus.
Exactly ... back to Logic. This new business model needs to be boycotted!
You should have introduced V6.6 one day earlier, on April 1st, because its hilarious. I get some Waves vibe from this.
spot on
The time has come to finally consider switching to another DAW.
Full of disappointment 😞 i think mostly people have professional version of studio one why don't we get the new vst in it. This feels like you guys are forcing us to buy studio one+ for new instruments or vst.
I don't want that. I want live looping features, better and more scoring tools
This is really Sad and frustrating I used so many DAWs, cracked so many DAWs even Studio one but i loved it so much and paid for a Perpetual License and started supporting the work and even started buying plugins , all of this for you to come thank me this wayyyyyyy. Big LLLLL to you guys. I'm not going back to cracking but imma go support a better company. You ain't getting my money no more !!!!!
Yes! Give us an unwanted shit integrations and don't listen your customers what really should be done... That's the right path, you've right xD
You gave practically nothing with the V6 upgrade. A dynamic eq and a vocoder, some live performance stuff nobody asked for and atmos. Now it's subscription only to get the new VSTi. Did you guys not see at all what happened to Waves?!? I'm seriously so disappointed. I've always been a proud Studio one user since V2, even bought an atom sq last week, now questioning how much I want to invest in the future. 😢
+1
Man FL comin out with AI Chords Helper, Stem divider... n here is Presonus sayin "new synth out! but only for subscribers" 😂😂😂
Those things can already be done with 3rd party apps, which are much better. I'd rather S1 is not bloated with a mediocre version of these tools. It is a very mediocre update, however.
Edit: In reading the change log, I noticed there is an abundance of great and important fixes, for which I am grateful.
I hope this update is an April fool joke
Yeah let's just hope the next update is a big one
💯💯💯
@@iamjohnblack lmao it's definitely not one
Wait, you don't the new lead architect synths without a sub?
Glad I haven't updated since version 5 not really missing out on anything production wise and have transitioned over to Bitwig for better workflow and creativity.
Maybe they walk it back like Bitwig did. Anything possible.
I switched from cubase to Studio one some time ago, and it took me 20 minutes in cubase and 2 minutes in studio one... this software is very good. People learn to use what you already have.
I never comment on stuff like this. But come on - this is really getting out of hand. Can business decisions get this bad? I just recently purchased an upgrade from version 5 to version 6 for almost the same amount of money as you're asking for this Hybrid version. On top of that, you are offering features that are hilarious while still not being able to utilize my CPU cores, neither PC or Apple Sillicone. With every new move you guys are screaming "money, shares, growth, make more of our underappreciated customers pay longer for more stuff they'll never need, etc." Very disappointed. I admit I will miss the workflow of the DAW, but this is just getting out of hand. Bye bye
But dude!!! It's got TuneCORE!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I'm afraid I need to learn another DAW. Have been with S1 since version 1. Pro user. Nothing useful for me as electronic music producer since v5, and not sure should I update since I see already where goes this ship. Still hope presonus team smart enough to learn from bigwig and waves experience.
We knew Presonus would shit the bed once they were acquired by Fender. Been using Studio One since v2, upgrade with every major release.
1. TuneCore is the most overpriced distribution solution out. On top of that, they're being sued for refusing payout to artists.
2. Apple AirPods reference monitoring? Provide us a native solution for mix referencing with hardware we actually use in the studio.
3. New synth release in a point update that's exclusive to Studio One+ users. Then you quietly change addons on your website to be available for purchase exclusively to Studio One+ customers. What kind of ass backwards shit is that when Studio One+ already includes access to them?
Don't be surprised if you go the way of Cakewalk's Sonar after the failed Gibson acquisition when this is the focus of your updates.
So, this update just adds advertising for Tunecore (whatever the fuck that is) and Apple.
Looks like the Fender effect has started....
Oh and as a bonus, they just included stuff for Plus members now, despite the fact we already paid for a perpetual licence.
Moving in the exact opposite direction I'd like.
Oh this gets MUCH WORSE - Presonus have withdrawn all addon products from their store for sale. It's not just the new synth - Mix FX plugins, sample packs, XT Editor etc etc - they are all GONE and only available to subscription model now. WOW.
Very disappointe in the subscription crap that Fender is pushing. No way I'm gonna pay 2000 Swedish kronor for the new synth that should have been included at least for all pro users.
I'm a studio one+ membership sub and oh wow, a vst only available for us and not the ones who bought pro perpetual licences? As much as i try to see the "exclusive" benefit, it's just a dirty move there not fair at all.
I hope this doesn't lead to good people trying to crack the daw more than it is now just for a VST that is not included in their pro perpetual licence because that would be a shame.
Alas, was just about to buy it after the demo period, but the sub thingy is a no go for sure....
Hey, Michael! We still 100% offer and support Perpetual licenses.
The Hybrid option is simply a separate option for those who would like a full year of Studio One+ ! Additionally, this option is less than half the price!
@@presonussubscription 🤮🤮🤮
Not hard to see how you are completely our of control guys. these are all money moves and corporation moves. its probably not your own decision but decisions made by people who have no clue and no interest in music directly but are there to make money only. But the picture is pretty clear and im sad for a DAW that really made a difference. "Market economy" running yet another great thing down to the ground...
....Hello LUNA and REAPER..... 😂
Sad that I don’t get the new synth with my s1 pro version …
Bro you are doing great things for producers, but is it too much difficult to develop the drag view feature? We need this ergonomic feature into presonus studio one.
Ive been a studio one user since version 2 but this new update is beyond bad and to say there is only a new synth for those that subscribe really is shitting on customers that bought perpetual licences the update also seems to mainly aimed at mac users . Think at this rate the version 6 will be my last version i will be using of this daw not happy with Fender and this new business model of theirs
add my distaste for the subscriptions. You just offered a deal on these but no upgrade from perpetual to newer deal. It puts a bad taste in my mouth for studio one right now.
Grab the popcorn.......
I feel duped
Nothing so far has compelled me to upgrade from Studio One 5 Pro. I’m still perpetually there.
It would be nice if PreSonus understood that the hybrid model isn't the problem, but a missing features on an update is. New features on an UPDATE shouldn't be subscription ONLY. I've would've gladly paid for it with an UPGRADE. Well that and more features that we asked for, of course. You're putting us in a bad spot. We came to Studio One for a reason and now that reason is going away. Make it better PreSonus so we don't have to abandon a ship we actually like. And yes we know the perpetual license still exist.
soo, dear fender and presinus! what is this update about? is there any chance, that s1 will ever stop crushing on m1 under gpu acceleration? Did you use your own product with really big project? it is so bad. How about global autofade? Dim solo? Lfo generator for automation? No, you are playing with subscriptions and call it “update”. Great! Bravo! i think reaper or cubase is waiting for me.
Some say Lead Architect is not as half good as 3rd party synths, but that's not the point here. The point is that Presonus will probably try to hide more new features behind subscription thereby alienating perpetual license users. It's frustrating being alienated after all the money I spend on pro versions.
Thank you for all the upgrades. Would it be possible to switch focus to fixing the multicore issues many users are facing while using SO on the next update please? That would be really helpful as even with all these amazing things you keep giving us, being able to use it effectively is very important as well. As a SO Pro user, I cannot even have more than 10 tracks with multiple plugins on it without SO crashing or the CPU spiking. And I’m on an M1 Mac.
Also on a side note, I may be speaking for several customers by saying this. Please stop forcing us onto a subscription model. If Fender really wants that then tell them to allow subscription for their Fender guitars as well. I might subscribe for an American Professional II Stratocaster at 9.99 a month for an annual payment of 120 on a Hybrid plan. 😂 If it sounds silly, that’s because it is. And that’s exactly what you’re doing with SO. 😅
I bought every 2 years the updates of pro version and now I have to sub for new features. Wow, I will switch to another DAW in the future with real new functions like AI integration.
I casually use Studio one its the only Daw I find user friendly I currently use Pro v4 but I had been thinking of upgrading to v6 as it includes the Show feature which would be really handy but now I am unsure. This seems very off plus the Presonus response to the comments has been a crapy copy and paste. Thats when you know you are a number at best. Please sort it Fender.
I can understand that perpetual licenses and subscriptions coexist. Nothing wrong with this, as long as perpetual licenses and product upgrades continue to exist, so Studio One+ Hybrid is fine to me. What I don't like is the exclusivity of the new virtual instrument to subscribers. We don't have many native instruments. Sampler libraries or even presets make more sense to me, but in my opinion, releasing this virtual instrument in this way is not the right way to go.
@presonus so when we continue to buy our S1 Pro upgrades, what do we actually get? as it seems to me that only if you pick the subscription models, then you will get all the new stuff and all the upgrades which have the things we need???
Really? Have you really evaluated that this type of subscription, which only provides some updates to those who have subscribed, scares away those of us who are users with a permanent license?
Presonus seems going to make the biggest mistake in their history. Looks like they are preparing us for a complete abandonment of the perpetual model in version 7. If this happens, then I’ll have to switch to Cubase.
Hello! Please know that we continue to offer, support, and enhance our Perpetual licenses -- and we have no plan for that to change any time soon.
We value creators who prefer to go the perpetual route. Hybrid is simply an alternative option that packages a year of Studio One+ with a perpetual license included.
@@presonus Thank you for response. I don't think hybrid is an alternative, because it includes features that perpetual version does not have. It would be an alternative if the differences concerned only the license type and payment schedule.
Presonus are a victim of their own success - make something good and the corporations turn up to squeeze the user base. I've been an S1 user since v2. FWIW I will never use a subscription service.
No, Presonus are a victim of Fender!
Hey Mark! Perpetual licenses haven't gone anywhere -- you can still buy and own Studio One Pro perpetual. This is still available and ready for ANYONE!
Studio One+ Hybrid is simply and additional option that was formerly our "annual" subscription, but now ALSO includes a perpetual license at the end of the 12 months!
@@presonusWhen you say perpetual licences are still available can you please add an asterisk stating that NOT all features are available with a perpetual licence?
@@JayDee98989... and double-asterisk: version 7 will probably use subscription model ONLY.
@@presonus Oh great, a perpetual licence, but the updates go to only subscriptions.
I would like all plugins and instruments to be available to use with other DAW's as well. Switched to Reaper and couldn't be happier, but I miss the vsti's from Presonus.
Same for me.
I rolled my eyes when Presonus made the ability to edit samples in their flagship sampler a paid feature , releasing a synth only for subscribers is an obvious attempt to drive users to subscription. At the very least make the synth available for purchase.
Bitwig here I come 🏃♂️
This is actually gross... Hyping up a new synth in a Studio One update video, only to tell us it's only for your subscription model clients a few seconds later.
If this was in a Studio One+ Update, fair enough. But to see an update video for a product I've paid for, only to be told I only get it if I pay more is pretty blind. Especially considering how many people watching this video have bought the most expensive version of your software.
You keep saying that perpetual licenses are still here, but it's clear that you only care about your subscribers... I've never considered moving away from Studio One. But I'm starting to think about it...
That it I’m done. I will not go subscription only and the inclusion of apple spatial crap is a deal breaker.
Hello! We totally hear you on the subscription thing. Don't worry - Perpetual licenses have NOT gone away! You can still choose to buy and own the perpetual license outright, or get Studio One+ Hybrid.
Studio One+ Hybrid gives you a perpetual license at the end of your 12 month subscription (which is only $180 USD vs the $399). You can learn more here: www.presonus.com/en-US/studio-one.html
@@presonus stop trying to sell services in your replies to criticism. You are using techniques car dealers use lol. It’s sad
@@presonus stop selling false information !
This is great, but Diva VST3 crashes S1 6.6 now. Was working perfekt today in 6.5...
No LEAD Architect for us common folk...
I'm done!!! Uninstalling and unsubscribing. Gonna focus on LOGIC Pro X.
6.6 is very unstabil! I had a lot crashes and other problems! went back to 6.5
I used to use this DAW until recently after being a long time steinberg user. But something tempted me back to cubase and boy so glad i did after seeing this marketing mess who knows what the future holds feel really sorry for Studio One users right now blimey what a mess.
@LunarBuzz yeah the new cubase mixer is amazing much like s1 but more in depth tbf studio one feels like a toy compared now.
Apple spatial only works in MAC?
I’ve been a loyal Presonus customer for 15 years. In 2022 I decided to take the plunge and try Sphere instead of a perpetual license. My experience has been horrible. If I am traveling and come back to my recording studio after a few weeks, Studio one has to verify I own all of my products all over again and double check my subscription has not run out. I am constantly having connection errors to the site and it locks me out of products I have paid for. It’s happened enough times now I finally decided f*ck it I’m never going to buy a subscription DAW again. The most important thing to a musician is to be able to sit down and be up and running in seconds. Impedance of any kind when inspiration strikes is the worst feeling you can feel in the studio.
I gave presonus’ subscription model a chance and it failed me. So I planned to go back to perpetual purchases. Now I’m watching them completely f*ck over their perpetual customer user base and it’s making me seriously look at other DAWs for when my sub is up in June. Smh!
You have officially lost a customer. I will not continue to just let subscriptions run my life. I pay for the Pro version I should get every single feature until 7 is released.
I really hate what this industry has become. I will be switching to Logic or Reaper shortly. Treat your Pro buyers like well….Pros.
You guys have lost your way and my wallet will be voting elsewhere.
nah, this is everything but interesting ... my first thumbs down on this channel. don't ruin it!!
This update, and specifically new “hybrid” license model and S1+ exclusive features, is nothing but bait to attract new users *_at the expense of your existing ones._*
I really hope the S1 user base can rally like the Bitwig user base did because this is a complete kick in the teeth.
If they were smart, they would have literally been the same price. So you feel like you are getting something instead of being forced into something, but WTF do I know?
This decision by Presonus is regrettable. I have been updating my perpetual versions since Studio One 3. What I considered unique and sensational were the features added to each version, which made me fall in love with this Daw. Version 6 so far has only released uninspired updates, with a lot of useless features that contribute nothing to the workflow, with this latest update being the culmination, completely contrary to what its oldest customers admired about this DAW. Totally disappointed, I hope you review this decision.
Wow, that's crazy but I kinda don't want a subscription and the brief mention of it already foretells a downhill trend in this software
Hi! Don't worry! We still have Perpetual licenses! You can still choose to buy the perpetual license, or get Studio One+ Hybrid.
Studio One+ Hybrid is just an option that's taking place of our existing annual subscription... except now you get a perpetual license at the end of your 12 month subscription (which is only $180 USD vs the $399). You can learn more here: www.presonus.com/en-US/studio-one.html
@@presonusyou know that when you make the synth exclusive to only plus users your not right. Please Fender. I've got 5 of your guitars. The jazz ultra bass is sooooo good but don't do this. I am a plus user! I pay every month. So I'm not even worried about me. Make it right. Please.
@@presonussubscription 🤮🤮🤮🤮
I don’t know about this one. I like Presonus but teaming up with Tunecore might backfire.. imagine paying a subscription to release music onto a platform only for them to take it down and not give you any reason. And will lead Architech be available as a perpetual add-on in the future?
Yeah, they had time to removed that feature, but they went through with it. It makes one wonder.
On to ableton. Not a fan of paying for a subscription. Been a user since v2.0 professional version and I think finally it’s time to move on.
Hello! We still 100% offer, enhance, and support perpetual licenses. This hasn't changed, and we have no plan for it to change.
Studio One+ Hybrid (previous our "Annual" plan) is simply and alternate option for creators who want a full year of Studio One+ with a perpetual license included!
@@presonusBut youve removed all add-on software from sale, including the new synth, and made it subscription only? That's what people are mad about, not the subscription model itself.
@@presonuswhat is your answer to those like @jaydee98989 who point out that you are restricting features previously available to license holders now only to subscription holders?
@@presonus what is your answer to those like @jaydee98989 who point out that you are restricting features previously available to license holders now only to subscription holders?
@@presonus what is your answer to those like @jaydee98989 who point out that you are restricting features previously available to license holders now only to subscription holders?
The functionality has hardly changed per Ver5.
I don't think I'll update the next one unless it has a really new and useful feature.
Say no to subscriptions🙋🏻♂️
Hello! We continue to offer and support perpetual licenses! 😊
@@presonus without new instru...
So Disappointed. Glad that the options are easy. Lame move personus, you were at the top my list but quickly moved way down the list.@@presonus
are you guys sure about this ..? If this any way in the future hamper us whos been using studio one perpetual licences then i m singing out...
Underwhelming 6.5 update for perpetual S1 users, extremely underwhelming 6.6 update for all day to day users, new and shiny updates for subscribers only and shady new partnerships. Puh, this will be a tough week for Presonus' customer services and social media teams and also for the actual coders. Please don't take it personal. It's not your fault. It's the fault of your management.
Who in the world wants to upload his song straight to Tunecore… useless features.. while we are still waiting on tons of useful ones…like modulations, real bus freeze… oh Yeah and just saying. Dolby Atmos is overrated.
Lead Architect only for + members? Why I struggled 2 years to own a professional version by rent to own? The SO already lacks on this side and now when something new drops, makes it only + ? I think it is time to sell my license and update my Live to v12. I trusted you @presonus !!!