5 Reasons Why I Switched from Logic to Studio One (and why I'm not going back)
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I switched from Logic to Studio One after using Logic for over a decade. Here are 5 reasons I use Studio One and why I'm not going back to logic! 
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Yes studio one may lack some stuff that cubase has but the workflow in S1 is the best.. super easy and fast to use!
Yes, yes and yes.
Cubase is another fantastic daw
@@ProducingInTheBox For sure but not intuitive at all in my opinion.. also kind of hard to learn
@@BertyWP nonsense. I´m a former S1 user, switched now on Cubase 13, very easy to use with much better customization.
@@Byron101_ glad for you😁 i also tried cubase because it has more features and overall better customization like u said but i just can't create music the way i do in s1
Any tips?
Many years ago I moved from Sonor to Logic because I moved to a Mac. I used Logic for a years until I bought a Presonus audio interface and got Studio One free. I tried it out and was hooked. All these years I did not know it was cross platform. Thanks for that info. I’ve not used Macros but will check those out too. Great video, thanks. I’m going to go install S1 on my Windows laptop.
Ayyyy let’s go! Love to see it! Enjoy!
2:40 Reaper has been doing macros for over 15 years as well, and it has the most powerful macro editor I've ever seen, it even has something called cycle actions which S1 doesn't have.
4:02 S1 isn't the only one who does track templates, Reaper does it too, and IMO it does it better because you can turn those templates into a macros in Reaper as well and do a lot more crazier things.
Nice video but as someone who've used Reaper and S1, S1 is a great daw and has a lot going on but IMO almost everything you mentioned, Reaper does those as well and in most cases does it much better than S1. I'd say S1 looks a lot better than Reaper out of the box, and it's more intuitive than Reaper, but the flexibility and customization of Reaper is on another level.
But at the end of the day they are both great daws and download and try them both and use the one you prefer, it's a good thing to have a choice, and we aren't all stuck to using pro tools 🤣.
Yes I agree, Reaper does everything he showed plus more. Out of the box it doesn't look as polished graphically, but it has alot more features and it is not subscription based etc.
I’ll need to revisit Reaper. It’s such a powerful DAW and I didn’t know about cycle actions or macros! I use my StreamDeck to create cycle actions for macros. I can stack macros together using the StreamDeck. I will say reaper is like windows. Full control, but not super intuitive
Studio one has a subscription option but you can still purchase it straight out of the box
@@ProducingInTheBox Yeah, Reaper is very powerful, IMO S1 looks better and is a bit more intuitive out of the box, but Reaper wipes the floor when it comes to powerful and flexibility. And cycles actions and macros (custom actions) aren't the same thing in Reaper. Custom actions are the same thing as macros in S1 but cycles actions are completely different which S1 doesn't have, you can do multiple things with cycle actions by the same hotkey but change the actions based on the condition. Also, not sure about the windows not being super intuitive lol, windows is the most intuitive OS in the world.
You can create macros in logic, as well as track templates (channel preset) and session templates. Logic is incredibly customisable, I’ve used it for 8 years and still discovering new tips. It might not be as intuitive to set some of these things up, but they’re all there. I’d be surprised if you couldn’t set it to close a plug window when opening another. A lot of inbuilt macros are key commands rather than a drop menu, and you can create your own. Once you learn them, it’s even quicker than moving a mouse around.
I’m a logic guy and I’ve been so since version seven of logic. And I really do like things about Studio one, and I find the macro to be truly the best feature that I can find in studio one, but a lot of of the other things you pointed out I just don’t think they’re necessary Because I’ve been producing for forever. I’ve gotten used to my workflow and logic and ProTools from many years in the studio. This seems like more steps in distractions for me. I find that it works better when it comes to music if you go down the road of less is more, more more than more distractions slow down even though you’re going faster it’s almost like you have adding more steps unnecessarily and that song that took five days could’ve only taken three days instead. Not bashing your thought again I think Studio is phenomenal, but if you’ve already learned something else and you’re really deep in it, I don’t think it’s a great idea to jump around and switch a bunch of times unless you absolutely find something vital in another program. I’ve used cakewalk. I’ve used QBase I’ve used logic pro tools, and Studio. One logic was the best one for me.
I really like your videos and I can’t wait to watch more
Yes... Logics workflow in midi composing and producing wayyy better and much faster than in S1. Studio One lags enormously in sample content. S1 onstock plugins are very weak. S1 is a boring lame dog and it´s flat 2D GUI is it's terrible when you're working with a lot of tracks. Logic is way more inspiring in all areas.
After too many errors with Logic pro, as well as no Melodyne integration, I tried switching to Studio one. and until now. I love it !
Le meilleur daw est celui qui VOUS CONVIENT pour votre musique😊 j'en ai testé beaucoup et j'ai eu un coup de coeur pour Studio One ! Tout me convient! Super daw pour moi, je peux tout faire avec. D'autres sont Cubase ou Pro tools a fond, et me montrent comment ils font ceci ou cela avec leurs daw, en comparaison de S1. Parfois ca leur est plus compliqué mais ailent leus softs lalgre tout. L important : arriver a produire SA musique 👍je trouve S1 tres complet, puissant et pratique🙏 bonne musique a toutes et tous!❤🙏
I made the same switch several years ago. Studio One's Drag and drop ease of use hooked me -- even in the early versions what lacked some essential features -- and the growing feature set has kept me happy. I think not being bogged down by legacy code and UI like Logic and other old DAWs are makes it easier for S1 to improve more rapidly. (Now, if only they can improve their clunky documentation to keep pace! The manual feels like something from the 90's.)
Not only is Studio One's workflow faster, it is a lot more intuitive. It just feels like a creative tool for musicians, rather than a computer app designed by software engineers.
I couldn’t agree more. It just gets out of the way
One thing I wish Studio one could have is forward compatibility. Sometimes newer updates, come with irritating bugs, and I would like to open the current session in an older version until the bugs are addressed.
That would be awesome. I have no idea how the developers would be able to do that on the back end haha
@@ProducingInTheBox yeah. That’s one of the main reasons I still use cubase…
Studio One is great, very helpful in many ways.
Splitter is so powerful. Love it all.
Even though there are things in logic that I like more than S1 , one of the things I have asked for them to add in logic for 12 years now , is follow track arm record , there are so many time per a session where you go to record on another track , and logic will record over the previous track you were on , S1 has that as a selectable feature .
It’s truly frustrating though that both logic and studio one have really poor cpu performance, compared to reaper and cubase .
Especially logic which is same eco system as apple silicon wtf .
I know. I will say I don’t notice the CPU usage a bunch. But I also have a powerhouse CPU and never break more than 120 tracks usually
I was a windows user for a very very long time , but then switched to Mac OS which was so nice and stable , think it’s been like 15 years since I’ve tried windows , what CPU and version of windows are you using ?
"Track Preset" is called track template in most DAWs. It exists in REAPER, Cubase, and Cakewalk that I know off.
Also exists in Logic - it’s called channel preset, because it’s layout is simulating an actual console. All the bus sends, panning, channel out (stereo bus, summing aux, etc) are also saved in the channel preset and it prompts you to create new auxiliaries or use existing ones when you load up a preset.
I don’t use macros, but I can see how they are very useful. Cubase has macros but I’m not sure if they are the same ones that you get with S1 unless you set them up yourself. I’ll def look into this more. And I love how you can move entire sections in S1.
It’s awesome! Also I was unaware of Cubase macros haha!
Logic + S1 = Cubase. ^^ that says all. I´m a former hardcore S1 user, now back on Cubase 13 and... erm...very happy. Cubase has now all the good stuff that made S1 great! But: Cubase has much more to offer. Cubase has way better inspiring sample content and professional stock plugins, which are on par with Logic. (S1 lags in this areas). Cubase 13 higly recommend, I must say.
Do u think studio one or cubase is easier for a beginner
Studio One is easier
Coming from Pro tools, I love Studio one alot. The workflow is so amazing. Pro tools is great no doubt but damn!
One thing i would love in the next update is the ABILITY TO SET A PLUGIN AS "ALWAYS LAST IN THE CHAIN"
This is good for e.g, multi-spectrum Analyser to always stay last in the chain no matter what other plugins are added to the track/chain
A tidious way of doing this is to always add the other plugins by draging above the analyser.
Cubase also has MACROS and it has had them for ages. Studio One actually copies Cubase in this regard, too.
Studio One is actually a product that was birthed by former Steinberg employees Wolfgang Kundrus and Matthias Juwan. Juwan himself worked on many Steinberg software products like Cubase, Halion and Nuendo and that Cubase philosophy, style and functionality is recognizable in Studio One, you can see that it is made by people who worked on Cubase.
So, yeah, the whole Macros thing is has been a Cubase function for many years.
Macros plus stream deck is next level. Other DAWs can do it but making and editing macros are easier in S1 IMO.
Couldn't agree more
I learn from you; Charles in San Diego, Ca. Blessings.
I Love, Love, Love Studio One since v1. But there's a couple of things that I still feel they need to change. First is the way I hear and feel the panning on Studio One. I know we now have three settings to choose from. But I often feel that the panning in Studio One is a little weird comparing it to other daws. The second thing is that every time I compare a mix done in Studio One vs mix done in Pro Tools I feel that the mix in Pro Tools sounds better to my ears. Lastly, I often get audio drop outs when mixing and playing back the project and also when pressing command/s to save the project the music or whole project make a weird sound.
I’m not sure about sounding better in ProTools. Are you using similar plugins? And as far as panning goes they revamped it in version 6 which was cool. Also if you’re having exporting issues try exporting in real-time!
Cubase you can customize your own macros and create your own.
That’s awesome
@2:40 There is one other DAW that lets you make 'macro's'.. Reaper.
You can tell Presonus is doing it right with Studio One because the rest of the industry tends to regularly and backhandedly diss or ignore Studio One as a player, even mentioning the likes of Cakewalk or Bitwig, completely ignoring S1. For an all around, non-genre specific DAW (ie. EDM > Ableton) there is simply no better product than S1....and that's a fact.
I agree with you
Macros! Mind blown!
3:51 Did you know that when you move a plugin outside inserts window while holding ctrl you can remove it? You don't have to expand the menu.
I always forget that haha
You can do this and much more with cockos reaper....and I am studio one user for many years....... only 60 dollars......
Reaper is great. Does it do macros?
Yes
@@ProducingInTheBox it has everything you mentioned in this video
only missing the logic „speed fades“ 😢 s1 still not implemented it
I do miss those. A lot actually 😂
Now I wanna move to STUDIO 1😮😮😮
studio one - my top. Also i d like to move from macbook to powerfull pc because its better)
Hey Andrew, S1 is real good, and I believe you are a great producer of course, however....... How come you don't know Cubase is the Dady and Maser of Macros? Don't say Studio One is the only daw that does that because it makes you sound either extremely biased and uninformed, or total newby which we know you are not. Cheers
well i'm thinking about going back to Logic...stems splitter and some other new stuff😉
Logic is still a great daw. The stem splitter is pretty cool BUT I have no real use for it. I don’t work with 2 track beats everyday
i personally have use both and im happy in cubase 13 pro right now it have all features that studio one have both also all the stock good producing features that logic have. i use studio one only when i want to have a different workflow when im a bit desmotivated. i think cubase 13 pro right now is the best daw however i think studio one have a better future in the daw markat if they take right decissions right now the subcription model was not that good but s1 can be the best daw in the market in a few years. i think studio one have the best workflow of all daws right now they just need better features in my opinion
Cubase is a fantastic DAW. another favorite of mine
@@ProducingInTheBox S1 is like the cubase small son I personally recommend it for beginners over cubase thanks to the easy workflow maybe not that much for producers unless you got allot of virtual instruments but for mixer and recorders is the best. As a Cubase user I always will respect and love a lot studio one
All great reasons to love studio one!
Yes they are! How long have you been using studio one? Also love your battle with Nathan!
Do you know how to adjust vertical scrolling with magic mouse in studio one? It's just too fast. In Logic, on the other hand, it's quite smooth (that's why I know it's not a problem in magic mouse)
I love your logic (no pun intended) for point 1, but I'm still waiting for the major music software developers to accept Linux. Had to start using Windows again just to produce my music :(
Hey, when are you dropping your album?
The plan is around august 💪💪💪
@producinginthebox this is going to sound very random, may I send you some music or help you create the album in any way? (This is a random youtube account on my younger brother’s ipad ignore the name 😂😂)
hi！where can i get your track preset？it seems awesome！especially the drums
What about exporting with efx on sends? Is it just a simple tick box, logic is bloody pain 😢
Yup! So easy! Logic was rough for that hahaha
@@ProducingInTheBox it still is a pain trying to export with efx sends
Could you explain how you setup the macro for silencing and normalizing vocals in studio one thx:)
i know marcor's are awesome.. but when seracing for it on yt or online ..there's not that much to find something about it.....
I’ll make a video about it!
@@ProducingInTheBox you’re a boss:)
Nice, I'll watch for it Andrew. I am guilty of not utilizing macros.
Theres actually alot here logic can now do..... I guess its been a long long time since youve actual;ly used it...
All good...
For me, the stand outs , that dont exist in logic, that would work for my flow, are Macros & X platform....
But alas.... Also working in film scores, im also still stuck with also having to use Protools for deliverables..... ! Go figure...
But again... I considering going back to Cubase.... If only Linux was better supported...As for Audio Post.... for small projects , BM's Fairlight im hopping crushes that crown.... and its also supported in Linux! Natively.
To Reiterate , All these DAW's are amazing....
Its sometimes the way you need to work, is not the same way as others..
I like logic but Studio one is my go to all the time
It's easy and faster daw i have ever use
why everybody call themselves producers?
Wait, how do you make it automatically strip silence from a vocal track?
There’s a thing called “strip silence” in studio one! Use that! You can link it to macros or whatever else
@@ProducingInTheBox thanks, I’ll check it out :)
how do i move an audio or midi region vertically to another audio and midi track in the arrangement. Since you are familiar with logic pro, there is a setting in that daw called move to focused track. That function can move multiple audio or midi regions to one selected track while preserving the timing of the data. it is an amazing tool to organise a really messy session. i just couldn't find a way to replicate that in studio one. please help me with this.
Are you talking about groups? Folders? Or about coping over midi tracks and if you make changes to the one it makes it to the rest?
ruclips.net/user/shortspUOmIMkkIR4?si=7PP5-5RNriKupTLN
I'm talking about this function.
Hey sir, enjoy the video. What is your video and camera set up and what program are you using to stream with?
Sony ZV-E10 and OBS! Great camera. And OBS is super popular
What are your computer specs? Does it matter
The steps in the pattern mode need to be increased to 128 (8 bars).
Which CPU are you using for Studio One 6?
Yes, to literally all of this! S1 for life. Unrelated question: do you do music production full time as a job? I went to school for audio but was never able to make it into an actual living. Just curious how other people have made it work.
Audio and business are 2 separate things entirely. One skill set will help you make great music. The other puts money in your pocket from happy clients. Read The 4 Hour Work Week, The Go-Giver and $100 Million Dollar Offers. Those 3 books were life chaining for me
@@ProducingInTheBox Nice. Reading 100M Offers right now. I'll put the other 2 on my list.
@@EricMakingWaves do everything it says and it’s hard not to make money. Trust me haha
@@ProducingInTheBoxdefinitely have to check out those books
Do you have a macro template for sale?
I don’t but Ivan Calderon does! Go check out his channel!
The next step is to switch from studio one to reaper and not going back. I'm tired of so crashes and glitches 😢
I'm a Reaper and Studio One user. Studio 1 is more attractive to look at, but Reaper is much more flexible. The macros inside Studio One are joke against the ones in Reaper, very limited in S1. Plugins need much less CPU inside Reaper than inside Studio One. And so on
Reaper is great!
I was a reaper user at one time.
U are right about Studio One being good looking. Look is important esp for clients but i don't like that i have to tweak to do so many things one button can achieve in Reaper bcos i end up spending more time tweaking which isn't good.
Imma bout to say the same. But I think personally, looks or theme can literally be customize as great as u want in Reaper. That's why I moved from Studio one to Reaper.
Ps, props to Studio One to actually have a minimum learning curve than Reaper which took a lot of time to master
Why would one normalize vocals?
All kinds of reasons. Especially is the vocals have processing baked in.
@@ProducingInTheBox fader (or gain/trim) would do the same, am I missing something?
@@hextobin normalizing just takes the loudest part of the entire audio file and puts it at 0db. So nothing clips. It doesn’t compress or anything. Clip gain does the same thing just over each clip you cut. AND you have control over it!
I switched from studio one to Cubase....good luck
Cubase is fantastic. Love that DAW
great choice. So do I. Cubase is way better than S1 now. Cubase has now all the features that has made S1 great. But Cubase has much more to offer. Highly recommend, I must say.
2:39 - Laughs in Reaper
Look at me learning new things about reaper. Every time I think I’ve reached reapers limits I’m shocked hahaha
@@ProducingInTheBox i don't think reaper has any limits. there are even games that you can play in Reaper.
@rano12321 this man 😅😅😅
Should I mention that Studio One is for creating music, not for DAW study? S1 is way more logical than Logic.
Right choice. Logic Pro 11 is a big let down anyway.
I was a logic user until 2012. Welcome to Studio One and yes, I'm never going back 👍💯👍
2012? LOL... What do you think Logic has improved after 12 years?? S1 lags in so many ways. Logic has absolutely great inspiring pro advantages.
@@Byron101_ My best friend uses Logic and I know they have improved over the years and still it's not for me because I don't like the work flow and how it's layed out. I never said Logic sucked so I don't understand the LOL. If it works for you, great.
@@Byron101_ Studio One has absolutely great inspiring pro advantages also. My Studio One doesn't lag because I have a computer with 64gigs of Ram and the CPU is an AMD Ryzen 9 5900x and it's fast. :)
This is a fatal mistake. :) ain't NO way S1 beats logic. Just the native sounds library of Logic blowS everything out of the water, let's not talk about the Sampler and Alchemy...stop...smoking!!!
Logic stock sounds are pretty great! I just don’t need them!
most people don't use stock sounds and plugins to be honest.
None of that matters, you can still make good music with vsts
True. But that’s not an issue if you have a good library of third-party plugins already.
Or you are working hybrid.
@@ranajoyshilpfft.
Studio One just screwed their users with new pricing.
From now on I am going to comment on an S1 video everytime the sack of shit crashes on me.
Don't waste your money. An absolute buggy bag of tug.
This crash I had just saved 10 mins before, did a shit load of tweaking 4 synths I had spent the past hour setting up as a base for, for sound design. Tweaked them all to get sounds spot on and it crashed. Literally the most important 10 minutes that I put a shit ton of effort in to to sculpt the sounds - gone.
What is the arrangement? None, no stress on it, no midi, no audio, an empty page. Just 4 empty instrument tracks, no mixer effects, nothing. I could have opened over 30 of that VST in Reason and it wouldn't have crashed.
I got S1 5 as a free upgrade because I bought S1 4 at the end of its life. 5 was unusable it crashed so often.
All of my software is legal, this isn't any try before you buy shit causing a crash. All my plugins, DAW's, everything legit.
So obviously with v5 being so bad I rolled back to v4. V4 still crashes all the time. If you don't hit save every minute, you're at risk of losing stuff.
I tried v5 again after years thinking they probably fixed it by now but no. It's a mess still.
What do we have now? V6. They left v4 a mess, v5 a big steaming mess and instead of fixing those they made v6.
Not a chance in hell I am upgrading with them and I need some functions that aren't in the other versions. Now I need to find £300 so I can crossgrade to Cubase. So to save £200 I bought S1 at £300 instead of Cubase at £500, when I get money to crossgrade it's gonna have cost me £600. Should have just bought Cubase in the first place.
Don't waste your money on Studio One. Pre Sonus do not give a shit about you. Go with a company that isn't going to sell you wank DAW. Presonus are dirty cash grabbing, rip off bastards.
You speak too fast.
More words in less time 🤘😎💪😂😂😂😂
This is your fault because even though you knew you didn't have a long-term processor on Apple, you still made an account in Logic Pro, another scam videos.
@@ladislaufazakas8980 logic and mac is great. I have nothing against either. At the time, my PC outperformed my MacBook. I mentioned that clearly in the video. For me, that’s what worked. It’s not for everyone. It’s why I switched. Not why anyone else should. Everyone else should pick their own daw. I just hope I can help someone like me.
Bye Felicia. Enjoy a lesser DAW. 😂