What sounds could you create with the BOSS RE-202 Space Echo? Get your very own at Sweetwater 👉 www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/RE-202--boss-re-202-space-echo-digital-delay-pedal?RUclips&Referral&Pxq9INGU
Thank you for another great demo and review, this time on the RE-202 Space Echo. I've been fortunate enough to be on this Great Planet over 3/4 of a century now, so I have the benefit of using some of the original Tape Echo offerings (back in the 60's), and have that history to fall back on when researching today's offerings in search of recreating my favorite sounds. I stumbled across this pedal when I was reading Sweetwater's History of the JC-120, prompting a search based on some information mentioned there, and immediately put it on my wish list. This demo and review has answered most of my questions and reservations about buying when they are in stock at Sweetwater. Thank you again, Mitch, for another fantastic presentation. Looking forward to more of the same in the future.
Thanks Mitch very well explained . At 65 I remember when most of the toys came out and there are just a mind blowing amount of effects on the market now . But this is a really good one . Thanks again .
👍🏿🤘Thank you Mitch. This is the first demo of many I’ve watched that has explained what the point of multiple tape heads is - every other has just taken that as assumed knowledge.
I want this pedal! I have the RE-20 and have enjoyed it the past 10 years or so.I only recently retired it and went with a Strymon Brigadier. Despite Mitch's dry playing in this demo I want this pedal!
You know what?…. I changed my mind completely. I have grown to really like this. I just needed to find its sweet spots. But the chrome knobs are hard to read. I would like to say going over the various different settings and reading the manual at the same time was a huge benefit. It just took me a while to “get it all”
Finally got my RE-202 and thought I'd just share this. I really wanted to be able to use the reverb by itself, which you can do, but only if you turn the echo volume down MANUALLY. My hope was that when I switch off the delay, the reverb could still be on regardless of echo volume or any other settings. I'm sure there is some sort of hack by using the presets or something but this is disappointing as I always leave reverb on. If anyone has a solid workaround, let me know!
Yeah, I got a work around. Sell this overpriced POS and get used delay and reverb pedals. Then spend the money you saved on something useful. Very disappointed in this.
It requires a room to make echo. This is why strymon calls it a "bigsky"... sky = firmament... - research what firmament means. It is a room, not space... (ancient calls it "a world")
Hi, Nathan! Thanks for your message, hope you're well and safe. The on/off for the device controls the echo and reverb. The Memory switch with a long press determines if the reverb is active or not. If the Echo volume is counterclockwise only reverb is output. With the four memory slots, you could program combinations with both or either effect. The manual is available at the Roland site. Please contact us direct with other questions as you have them! Robert Williams, Senior Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 2371, robert_williams@sweetwater.com
The old RE-20 can do this if the external pedal is set to 'Echo Level' - even if it is a sustain pedal (i.e. on/off). It seems this is not possible with the RE-202 and for me that's reason enough to send it back. A solution via memory slots would be too cumbersome. I want to use the reverb throughout and highlight some parts with a delay - for context, I play keyboards in Reggae and Dub.
@@aperezdeal Currently in a group of 10k guitarists. They took a survey on what's on their pedal board and boss pedals are currently at the bottom. There are better choices now
Ok they have sales reports in black and white which indicate how relevant they are. They are still the measuring stick, the standard to which the others are held. Like vanilla ice cream may not be the most flavorful but it sells the most and is the basis of comparison for all other flavors. Shelves are packed with said vanilla and there is enormous demand. Boss defines relevance in the pedal realm.
Hi darkmattersproject2951, great question! There are a number of ways to bring an acoustic instrument into some FX pedals! The best way is to use a preamp pedal that has an FX loop built in, like the Eventide Mixing Link or the Radial VocoLoco. This give you a preamp for your instrument's microphone, and then has routing options for bringing in guitar FX, like the RE202, distortion pedals, reverbs, whatever you want! This is optimal, but can cost a little more. The cheating way to do it, which work kinda OK, but can have some limitations and noise issues, is to use a transformer adapter with a dynamic mic like the MIT-435 from HOSA. It works OK, but gives you no level control. If you want to dig into more FX routing for acoustic instruments, give me a ring, would love to chat! Drake Sobehrad, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 3271, drake_sobehrad@sweetwater.com
I imagine I could (and should) send each of the 2 output signals and send those signals to tow separate amps....and place the amps apart from each other..for a stereo presence. any advice on this?...thank you...Cheers from Canada
I had the original Roland Space Echo in the mid 70s and I didn’t really like it then. I’m not impressed with it now either. I’ve had the much simpler real taped based EchoPlex which was much more user friendly I thought. At that time. Though I have to admit this new one is a much smaller size which makes it much easier to find a space for it. Besides there are analog and digital delays that do much of the same w still less space taking up.
Can you use the reverb and delay individually as in activate the echo by itself for one hit then the reverb for another hit? Im s reggae musician so that would help with "dubbing"
Hi, Jacob! Thanks for contacting us, appreciate the inquiry. The on/off for the device controls the echo and reverb. The Memory switch with a long press determines if the reverb is active or not. If the Echo volume is counterclockwise only reverb is output. With the four memory slots, you could program combinations with both or either effect. The manual is available at the Roland site. Please contact us direct with other questions as you have them! Robert Williams, Senior Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 2371, robert_williams@sweetwater.com
Hello, great question! The RE-202 does not have a mic preamp built in so it would be best to connect it to the effects loop of a mixer. That would also allow you to easily switch between the vocal and saxophone, as well. Give us a call if you need help finding the right mixer. Thanks! Jason Filloramo, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1281, Jason_Filloramo@sweetwater.com
Vendors (aka Sweetwater) get "advance products" to test and review and "promote" "before" the product actually arrives for public / consumer purchases. I think in advertising, it's called promoting, I prefer "hyping," the product!! That's why Mitch / Sweetwater has a pedal to promote to generate future sales and creating an interest for purchasers to "Pre-Order" the product (under the pretense of order this now since this is on back-order, in this case awaiting arrival, so you can be assured you'll be one of the first to get this when it arrives)! I "think" it's called "marketing" by the manufacturer (with zero regard to how much it may P*$$ off the potential purchasers). I totally understand your comment. I just wanted to "add" to your question / frustration about why a product is being promoted / reviewed when it is not available for purchase!! I've had this same complaint about Sire guitars for over a year now!!!!
@@brianvillage5 Then again, this pedal could also be like the PRS Silver Sky SE where they had them in stock for well over a week, but could only take advance orders and were not allowed to ship them until the release date! And I was actually trying to be helpful (in case the original commenter really didn't know how things work).
I was looking at the Boss Foot Pedal earlier today. It's a little less expensive and it's available now. But this is a nicer unit and I think I would be kicking myself if I jumped the gun on this. I think I'll wait.
Get a guitar Pro who can demonstrate what the pedal can do overall spanning the full spectrum so that we can get an idea about what the pedal can do on stage, no talking just playing. Then in Part two you can do a tutorial.
Also, let’s not forget, if you buy one, the FIRST THING you’ll need to do is replace ALL the chrome knobs. They can NOT be read from any further than 10 inches away.
Keep in mind, the “Twist” and “Warp” buttons are all but useless, because they are 10x the volume of the dry signal. When they kick in, they way overpower whatever your original signal is. Also, the reverb has ONE KNOB, “level” - you can increase or decrease the reverb. THATS IT. in short, you can get a used delay and reverb pedal for half the cost of this,and get 10x the usefulness out of them. I waited 7 months for mine (on back order most of 2020). Man, am I disappointed!
@@doves9204 And now they just did ANOTHER VERSION of this pedal to solve the problems I complained about. Hard “no” on breaking loose with another couple hundred bones to try again. Pass.
“Life is suffering.” Buddha It’s unfortunate when people don’t do their homework and spend a bunch of money on the wrong pedal and then lament how they could have done better with something else. The information on these effects is available on manufacturers’ websites, sellers like Sweetwater and countless online forums. Better luck next time. ☮️☮️
@@richietownsend6737 Instead, I should have hired a mind reader to figure out just how this sounds. You can preorder gear and get it the minute they arrive stateside, or you can wait even longer. I don’t like waiting. Besides, I sold this for $50 more than I paid. All good in my hood.
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What sounds could you create with the BOSS RE-202 Space Echo? Get your very own at Sweetwater 👉 www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/RE-202--boss-re-202-space-echo-digital-delay-pedal?RUclips&Referral&Pxq9INGU
Still waiting for my Sweetwater RE-202 pre-order to ship, my guy.
Thank you for another great demo and review, this time on the RE-202 Space Echo. I've been fortunate enough to be on this Great Planet over 3/4 of a century now, so I have the benefit of using some of the original Tape Echo offerings (back in the 60's), and have that history to fall back on when researching today's offerings in search of recreating my favorite sounds. I stumbled across this pedal when I was reading Sweetwater's History of the JC-120, prompting a search based on some information mentioned there, and immediately put it on my wish list. This demo and review has answered most of my questions and reservations about buying when they are in stock at Sweetwater. Thank you again, Mitch, for another fantastic presentation. Looking forward to more of the same in the future.
Thanks Mitch very well explained . At 65 I remember when most of the toys came out and there are just a mind blowing amount of effects on the market now . But this is a really good one . Thanks again .
As always the best demos come from Mitch
👍🏿🤘Thank you Mitch. This is the first demo of many I’ve watched that has explained what the point of multiple tape heads is - every other has just taken that as assumed knowledge.
Mitch is the Man! 🎸
I want this pedal! I have the RE-20 and have enjoyed it the past 10 years or so.I only recently retired it and went with a Strymon Brigadier. Despite Mitch's dry playing in this demo I want this pedal!
You know what?….
I changed my mind completely. I have grown to really like this. I just needed to find its sweet spots. But the chrome knobs are hard to read. I would like to say going over the various different settings and reading the manual at the same time was a huge benefit. It just took me a while to “get it all”
Sounds pretty authentic.
A very great review! Thank you!
Well got one on order …just waiting for y’all to get more …been waiting a while
Great Demo.
Excellent demo nice vid
This sounds great. I must just have to pick one up since it seems like finding a real deal vintage model in good shape is costly.
Super pricey, and you need access to a tech to maintain it.
Finally got my RE-202 and thought I'd just share this. I really wanted to be able to use the reverb by itself, which you can do, but only if you turn the echo volume down MANUALLY. My hope was that when I switch off the delay, the reverb could still be on regardless of echo volume or any other settings. I'm sure there is some sort of hack by using the presets or something but this is disappointing as I always leave reverb on. If anyone has a solid workaround, let me know!
Yeah, I got a work around. Sell this overpriced POS and get used delay and reverb pedals. Then spend the money you saved on something useful. Very disappointed in this.
I can MOD this for $1 million
Why not just save that setting as a preset?
@@malcolmbliss777😂
Your playing is amazing do you play live in a band?
In space, no one can hear your echo.
VERY FUNNY!!!
😂
It requires a room to make echo. This is why strymon calls it a "bigsky"... sky = firmament... - research what firmament means. It is a room, not space... (ancient calls it "a world")
echo
😂
Equally true and ironic
Does it include the reverse mode?
When you bypass, is the reverb bypassed together? Can you bypass just the delay and keep the reverb?
Hi, Nathan! Thanks for your message, hope you're well and safe.
The on/off for the device controls the echo and reverb. The Memory switch with a long press determines if the reverb is active or not. If the Echo volume is counterclockwise only reverb is output. With the four memory slots, you could program combinations with both or either effect. The manual is available at the Roland site.
Please contact us direct with other questions as you have them!
Robert Williams, Senior Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 2371, robert_williams@sweetwater.com
The old RE-20 can do this if the external pedal is set to 'Echo Level' - even if it is a sustain pedal (i.e. on/off). It seems this is not possible with the RE-202 and for me that's reason enough to send it back. A solution via memory slots would be too cumbersome. I want to use the reverb throughout and highlight some parts with a delay - for context, I play keyboards in Reggae and Dub.
Still tough to give up my timeline for this but I love it that BOSS is still trying to be relevant
Relevant how? Boss is the largest and highest revenue pedal brand on the planet. They don’t try to be relevant, they are the epitome of relevance.
@@aperezdeal Currently in a group of 10k guitarists. They took a survey on what's on their pedal board and boss pedals are currently at the bottom. There are better choices now
Ok they have sales reports in black and white which indicate how relevant they are. They are still the measuring stick, the standard to which the others are held. Like vanilla ice cream may not be the most flavorful but it sells the most and is the basis of comparison for all other flavors. Shelves are packed with said vanilla and there is enormous demand. Boss defines relevance in the pedal realm.
Seems to me this would go really well with a Synergy Syn2+Syn50/50 rig.
I have the uad plugin of this it’s a great effect. IK makes one too, I’d love to have the pedal.
can you get the yngwie end of guitar solo effect - he would get with roland dc10
Is there away for a trumpeter to use this device
Hi darkmattersproject2951, great question! There are a number of ways to bring an acoustic instrument into some FX pedals! The best way is to use a preamp pedal that has an FX loop built in, like the Eventide Mixing Link or the Radial VocoLoco. This give you a preamp for your instrument's microphone, and then has routing options for bringing in guitar FX, like the RE202, distortion pedals, reverbs, whatever you want! This is optimal, but can cost a little more. The cheating way to do it, which work kinda OK, but can have some limitations and noise issues, is to use a transformer adapter with a dynamic mic like the MIT-435 from HOSA. It works OK, but gives you no level control.
If you want to dig into more FX routing for acoustic instruments, give me a ring, would love to chat!
Drake Sobehrad, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 3271, drake_sobehrad@sweetwater.com
I imagine I could (and should) send each of the 2 output signals and send those signals to tow separate amps....and place the amps apart from each other..for a stereo presence.
any advice on this?...thank you...Cheers from Canada
Yes you can. Use two other delays before each amp after the Re 202 and you can make this amp even more spacier
@@mikefloyd3152 woah!!!! Great idea
I had the original Roland Space Echo in the mid 70s and I didn’t really like it then. I’m not impressed with it now either. I’ve had the much simpler real taped based EchoPlex which was much more user friendly I thought. At that time. Though I have to admit this new one is a much smaller size which makes it much easier to find a space for it.
Besides there are analog and digital delays that do much of the same w still less space taking up.
They have a standard sized stomp box version of this as well.
Good demo...Too complicated for me! I'll stick with my Carbon Copy
Wise move. These stink.
Can you use the reverb and delay individually as in activate the echo by itself for one hit then the reverb for another hit?
Im s reggae musician so that would help with "dubbing"
Hi, Jacob! Thanks for contacting us, appreciate the inquiry.
The on/off for the device controls the echo and reverb. The Memory switch with a long press determines if the reverb is active or not. If the Echo volume is counterclockwise only reverb is output. With the four memory slots, you could program combinations with both or either effect. The manual is available at the Roland site.
Please contact us direct with other questions as you have them!
Robert Williams, Senior Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 2371, robert_williams@sweetwater.com
Will this work for mic, vocal and saxophone to switch between the two?
Hello, great question! The RE-202 does not have a mic preamp built in so it would be best to connect it to the effects loop of a mixer. That would also allow you to easily switch between the vocal and saxophone, as well.
Give us a call if you need help finding the right mixer. Thanks!
Jason Filloramo, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1281, Jason_Filloramo@sweetwater.com
Waaait a minute here... how can YOU have an RE202 if Sweetwater doesn't even have them in stock yet?
Vendors (aka Sweetwater) get "advance products" to test and review and "promote" "before" the product actually arrives for public / consumer purchases. I think in advertising, it's called promoting, I prefer "hyping," the product!! That's why Mitch / Sweetwater has a pedal to promote to generate future sales and creating an interest for purchasers to "Pre-Order" the product (under the pretense of order this now since this is on back-order, in this case awaiting arrival, so you can be assured you'll be one of the first to get this when it arrives)! I "think" it's called "marketing" by the manufacturer (with zero regard to how much it may P*$$ off the potential purchasers). I totally understand your comment. I just wanted to "add" to your question / frustration about why a product is being promoted / reviewed when it is not available for purchase!! I've had this same complaint about Sire guitars for over a year now!!!!
Are both of you serious? Like you’re really people not robots right?
@@brianvillage5 Then again, this pedal could also be like the PRS Silver Sky SE where they had them in stock for well over a week, but could only take advance orders and were not allowed to ship them until the release date! And I was actually trying to be helpful (in case the original commenter really didn't know how things work).
Could have been cool to see someone who would make music , and not only technical parts of what it can do, à extra 3 minutes wouldn’t kill anyone.
I was looking at the Boss Foot Pedal earlier today. It's a little less expensive and it's available now. But this is a nicer unit and I think I would be kicking myself if I jumped the gun on this. I think I'll wait.
Nice
it is missing the two mic channel jack inputs that the first re 201 had. which sux arse.
No heads panning, strymon volante is a winner right away!
The preamp is a digital recreation not analog
Good review overall, except 12:25 is not accurate. So torn between this and the compact version.
@@geetargeek79 the big version is better.
No way!!!!!!! He totally said that in the beginning when he mentioned the 24 bit converter and 32 bit floating point operation of the unit….
I think this pedal may take far too much time fiddling with before one can find a useable sound.
How are the knobs set for the intro sound?
Informative but Nothing about how to access or change reverb and of course no in depth explanation of the hidden functions or midi.
Ah…..Digitaru Pedaru …..so desu ne!
Get a guitar Pro who can demonstrate what the pedal can do overall spanning the full spectrum so that we can get an idea about what the pedal can do on stage, no talking just playing. Then in Part two you can do a tutorial.
You’ve never heard of Mitch Gallagher?
When I click 10 times on a video and can't find one sound clip, I go on to the next one.
Just a costumer's head's up.
Is there a headphone jack.
Nope.
Also, let’s not forget, if you buy one, the FIRST THING you’ll need to do is replace ALL the chrome knobs. They can NOT be read from any further than 10 inches away.
Nonsense, they look perfect.
Get glasses
Keep in mind, the “Twist” and “Warp” buttons are all but useless, because they are 10x the volume of the dry signal. When they kick in, they way overpower whatever your original signal is. Also, the reverb has ONE KNOB, “level” - you can increase or decrease the reverb. THATS IT. in short, you can get a used delay and reverb pedal for half the cost of this,and get 10x the usefulness out of them. I waited 7 months for mine (on back order most of 2020). Man, am I disappointed!
@@doves9204 And now they just did ANOTHER VERSION of this pedal to solve the problems I complained about. Hard “no” on breaking loose with another couple hundred bones to try again. Pass.
“Life is suffering.” Buddha
It’s unfortunate when people don’t do their homework and spend a bunch of money on the wrong pedal and then lament how they could have done better with something else. The information on these effects is available on manufacturers’ websites, sellers like Sweetwater and countless online forums. Better luck next time. ☮️☮️
One man's disappointment is another's delight, I suppose. Maybe don't buy the newest thing before you can get some unbiased reviews of it?
@@evanherb5900 I made a profit reselling it. No loss here. More people wanted on used than to wait on a back order list.
@@richietownsend6737 Instead, I should have hired a mind reader to figure out just how this sounds. You can preorder gear and get it the minute they arrive stateside, or you can wait even longer. I don’t like waiting. Besides, I sold this for $50 more than I paid. All good in my hood.