Is "XTR 10" the BEST Surfboard Foam on the Planet?
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- Опубликовано: 20 авг 2023
- In this episode, Noel Salas visits XTR Epoxy Pro in Oceanside, California for surfboard foam testing. Noel introduces Javier Huarcaya-Pro to share what makes XTR 10 so special. Javier compares XTR 10 to PU Poly foam and EPS foam with a stringer and actually runs some blanks over with his truck to show the durability of this extruded foam. The XTR 10 foam out performs with very little dents. The foam is 100% waterproof and can be customized with a super light glass job called "Carbon lite" or, if you prefer, it can be glassed a little heavier for bigger surf. This remarkable foam core makes your board last for 3, 4 or even 5 years (says Javier) with very little pressure dents, all while keeping the original pop and snap like it did when it was brand new. Noel loves his "G-Skate" and Peppa Twin with parallel carbon that is located on the heel and toe of the board making is sensitive and quicker than center flex. carbon. His "Red Tiger" was made with a center flex carbon, which is more familiar to most and similar to a stringer. After thorough testing Noel says, "the new 'XTR10' Foam is the best on the Planet". Enjoy!!
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Noel's Favorite "XTR 10" Carbon Lay Up is..
Carbon Lite & Parallel Carbon 
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I hope he gets more recognition with these foams, so sick
Cool look at the man himself! I have a lost mini driver 6’2 in XTR. Bought it used, who knows how old it is. I’ve ridden it hard for 4 years. Stays in my car. Works amazing in everything from waist to well overhead. Never worried about dinging it or pulling into shallow close outs. Probably the best board I’ve ever had. Super light and paddles insane. Thanks Javier for all his work and Noel for the interview!
Thanks for posting…
Javier owner of XTR is the man ! The XTR foam he makes is so overlooked by most. It floats way more bouyant ( sometimes a bad thing) but it means you can ride a smaller thinner board. And get slingshot like flex of the bottom.. This was Tomos go to foam when trying out his prototypes. He was basically living at XTR. XTR 10 has to be really good !
That car test really showed the impact a stringer has on a surfboard. Cant wait to order one of these XTR boards, maybe 3 😀.
I had a xtr foam board ten years ago and loved it. Thought it would take over the world but could never get my hands on another one
The best form reviewed by the best reviewer = the best episode
Thank you so much Noel!! I’m stoked this fantastic form and XTR folks are recognized more in the community.
Cheers for the kind words
Can attest to XTR. Light but strong. I have a quiver of boards and they are all great, especially my 5''11 ghost. Thing is magic, had some of the best waves of my live on that one. Will order some more for a trip next year. Thanks Javier.
Javier has always been a great guy to me. It's unfortunate that XTR and Tomo parted ways. Hopefully they can collaborate on something in the future. Great review Noel. I agree that the foam is unique and special under foot. 🤙
When did xtr and tomo stop working together?
Awesome video Noel! My favorite surf content creator by far
Just picked up a xtr10 NB2 w/ stringer. Board looks perfect and couldn't be happier with it.
Good to know! I'll definitely keep this company in mind when I'm ready to purchase another board. It's important to me that the board is made in America - I live in Hawaii, but I love supporting Local/American-made products. Thank you again for sharing!
awesome vid Noel, very nice to know about this foam, looking fwd to trying it out soon! yeewww!
Love it. Thank you for the education.
Foam is sick. Riding one for the first time in Fiji and it’s working great.
Javier is the boss
Been riding my XTR3 for 14 Years!
Great video! Thanks
My buddy bought your g-skate xtr at used surf and loves it.
Yewww.. such a fun board in the Parallel Carbon XTR10 tech.
Very informative video. Curious to understand how the foam is waterproof but yet the gases can release through the venting system. If it's sealed from moisture, doesn't that mean that gas vapor would also be prevented from releasing or venting? Would love to hear the explanation on this.
Lets go Javi!
Epic video. So interesting. Thanks for sharing this. For someone who is only getting one board in this XTR, for Waco and beach break ocean waves, would you do the parallel or carbon lite? Specifically with either the Bobby Quad or RNF '96. Also, would that change for a small wave groveler for the ocean like PJ Sting or Hydra?
For Groveler boards I say Parallel Carbon. Check with the folks at XTR to dial in flex for your weight.
Noel, I'm stoked at the new adaptations and content you've got...I say Waco has lit a fire in you and the show. I had a bad experience with communication and sizing with XTR years ago but Javier's breakdown (and explaining the tiny vent holes I always wondered about) along with your stoke has me steering this direction for next board. Do you have a personal recommendation on XTR setups for boards in good waves (I'd usually go stringered eps) versus more grovelly waves (typically carbon/eps for me)? As in a breakdown on where to draw the line between xtr w/ stringer, xtr w/single centered carbon, and xtr w/ parallel carbon? Keep up the fantastic work young man, and thank you!
do these have vents? i have been riding epoxy core boards for10 years and none of them had vents, just a normal resin and glass construction
my 3 xtrs had about ~10-15 tiny needle size holes along the carbon strips, top/bottom I thought were from some sort of "bed of nails" drying rack. After hearing Javier, I believe these are the vent holes he refers to @@xisotopex
Good question, basically its about controling the flex with a stringer you have a flex that cant be measure exactly since its a natural product and varies. with parallel carbon or center carbon and xtr we can get a very specific flex for you and any wave size. I personally test same board with stringer and parallel carbon in Hawaii and by far I made and catch more waves without stringer.
thanks for that Javier. Very tempted thinking about a Gremlin w/ parallel carbon!@@javierhuarcaya-pro764
As for vents ? I had many of the XTR 7s and I never seen any vent holes and do not think those did. This type of foam is not eps. It's real closed cell foam similar to XPS Extruded polystyrene an will not take in water. Javier has a video ( Or did ) that shows him surfing just a blank . No glass job ! I believe they figured out away around the vent holes.
Can you do a best ever in the last five years best ever all around shortboard, groveler, twin fin , best fins etc. in the last five years. Pick one of each?
Noel, thanks for the review. I love the pressure test from the car! Have you tried the Volcanic construction from Firewire yet?
Would love to see a review on the Volcanic construction!
Not yet…
I can't attest to the durability of these blanks, but what I noticed in this clip is how much POP you seem to have on them. Maybe it's just because you're in trunks in a wave pool, but your surfing looks noticeably crisper and livlier.
I've been a pretty dedicated Tomo/Firewire guy the last 5 years or so, and I can't believe the durability and pop of the LFT. The board will yellow, but I've ridden boards nearly every day for 2 years with hardly ANY pressure dents. Love to hear how you compare the two. I just picked up my first "Ibolic" Firewire, and that's supposed to be even more durable. If they get any more durable, my quiver will be set for life unless I gain weight or something, haha.
Ive got a Firewire Pyzel Amigo FST which i love so durable, there is a Tomo helium Hydroshort on sale that im thinking of getting soon. What Firewire boards do you ride? Which boards are your Favs?
@@tezf6883 I ride a Sci-Fi 2.0 in most waves, a El Tomo Fish in small/marginal waves, and an FRK roundtail in hollower waves. The Sci-Fi and El Tomo have been two of the most magic boards I've ever owned. The FRK does what it should, as I only really ride it in barrels. That's the one I have in Ibolic, but haven't ridden it yet. Saving it for winter.
I’ve got the Pyzalien 2 in XTR 8.C but I bought it second hand and the top glassing is pretty light. I have more pressure dings on that board than any of my fire wire or my JS. Monsta box for that matter. My Sci-fi held up really good but got these weird red streaks in the glass after 1 year. I just ordered a Revo Ibolic which as you said is supposed to be incredibly strong. I do like the pop in the XTR and I haven’t seen any delaminating after 2 years of use. Most pressure dings are in the knee area from popping up. I love that they don’t absorb water. I did notice what I thought were some factory flaws in the glassing which after watching this video I think are off gassing ports. Thin areas in the glass where you can see the fibers. I also own a dark arts Pyzalien 2 in larger dims. Personally I like the feel of that board over the XTR but the XTR is light and poppy and I wouldn’t hesitate ordering again with slightly heavier glass on the top deck. Sounds like this newest version XTR 10 is even stronger.
The LFT feels a bit heavier to me… I have not tried the new Zino lic yet.
Thanks for the kind words on my surfing…. The XTR 10 foams has pop for sure and it’s nice to surf in my trunks too. I personally like my small waves board as light as possible and now I get the durability too
For the 200lb+ club, are you guys going wood stringer and 64/4 or 44/4 glassing?
Great video Noel, thnk's. I've seen you surfing the Lost 3.0 Stub Driver, are you going to drop a review? I am very interested on it.
Not for a while
Hey Noel, great video as usual. Wanted to ask: is this XTR 10 a recent evolution that is relatively new in their line? If so, are there any improvements in preventing delamination vs the last iteration? And any longer term reviews regarding delamination? Thanks!
Oh and finally bought that Astropop thanks to your reviews and advice and loving it...
I asked Javier and he said yes the changes have been made on this new XTR10 from previous XTR formulas. Stoked to hear you like the Astro POP
My XTR 10 delaminated twice in less than a year.
maybe i should consider making a pool my home break... seeing as my home break, is flat 75% of the time, and the 25% of the time that its not flat, it may only be knee high...
I love surfing pools… can’t wait for them to be everywhere. I want to surf them all. So fun
Xtr10 looks 🔥
Absolutely
XTR is looking sick. Noel did you go true to size on the Aipa DNA and do you recommend it in the carbon lite even in windy ocean conditions?
I went 1L less… yes I recommend the Carbon Lite. Talk to Shey at XTR and he will get you dialed on Carbon Layup for windy conditions. Tell Shey I sent you….
Hey Noel
Loved the review. I would love to get one of these but would have to ship to Australia and you know airlines. What’s your comparison with the dark arts and this?
The XTR10 is more durable… the DA is a bit more explosive
Great video, how would you compare the G Skate stock to XTR PC model
The XTR 10 PC model offers a bit more pop. Way better in smaller waves.
Me and my dad have been looking at XTR foam to build boards out of for a while now. It’s ridiculously cheap and we were hoping to make boards more accessible to people financially, specially in 3rd world countries. We’re still trying to figure it out but hopefully it all works out! If not maybe we could buy some special blanks off you guys XD
Great video Noel! So what carbon and glass layup combination did you like the best with the XTR 10? I’m always concerned the flex is going to be too stiff with the XTR.
I like the Carbon Lite and Parallel Carbon the best. The Carbon Lite has excellent pop and easy to shred.
The Parallel Carbon feels good too…. A little different feeling at first but goes good.
I agree with Kristim4549 on this one. I’ve had XTRs since the 5.0 and 5.C days, back in the early 2000s….the most recent being a parallel carbon Tomo about 2/3 years ago. Really well made and finished boards but I’ve always found with the foam being so dense that it doesn’t give the best flex. No matter what carbon layups are used the foam density doesn’t allow for much movement/flex. I was tempted to go with no stringer or carbon to see if that made a difference but went parallel carbon instead. I am definitely curious how the XTR 10 feels as they are very well made boards.
They still feel like a ping pong ball, stringer or not. Great for glassy days, horrible when it gets windy and choppy. While very strong at first, I have had major delamination issues with XTR 10@@mjstatic77
Great review as always Noel.
My question is...can/ how could order a board with XTR10 construction here in Australia?
Namely a Pyzel ghost. Any help would be appreciated.
Cheers
We can ship to Australia , price can be an issue regarding to the size of the board.
@@javierhuarcaya-pro764 it would be a 5'11" or 6'0" Pyzel Ghost and thanks for getting back to me.
Have you a price on the board no colour and Stock dims and shipping cost to the east coast of NSW?
Cheers
Cheers
I would like to know who is shaping the board? For instance if someone orders a Pyzel model from XTR, does the XTR 10 blank get sent over to Pyzel and they shape it and send it back to XTR for glassing, or does XTR have CAD files of all the models from the companies they are working with and XTR does everything from start to finish in house? How does this work?
Great questions… give the folks at XTR a call or email them.
Yes Sir! Will do.
I talked to Shay at XTR. He was very knowledgeable and accommodating to my needs. They can pretty much customize any model they offer to your exact specifications including any artwork you want on the board. I’m ordering my board with them. Thanks for bringing this cutting edge technology to the light for us Noel! I’m so stoked to get on an XTR 10 board. I can’t wait. Yewwwwwwwwwww!!!!
@@kennethfriedl3428 yewww!! Let us know how it goes
@@surfnshowreviews7777 I will.
currently have an off the rack PU Gskate which is a sick board- honestly its the best board i have ridden. it suits my style perfectly cruisey when i want - or jam a nice turn when needed - i really like the way it rides and never really liked PU boards - but this one just rides well! unfortnatley the ultra light glassing on CI boards doesnt hold up as we all know - dents and cracks all over now. - thinking about ordering an XTR version - did you like the parallel carbon Gskate you were using or would you go carbon lite - or would you go stringer?? i am not surfing pools - just your average north county san diego waves
I like the Carbon Lite best. I have 3 different boards in the Carbon slots and they all go mental. You will love it
Hey Noel, In the carbon lite is this floating more/sitting higher in the water than a typical PU board at the same volume?
Yes…. It sits higher. Feels like 1 liter more compared to PU. So you can order XTR10 roughly 1L less than your PU
Would love to see you have a peek at Appletree’s 50k foam.
Best foam available in Europe, and they pretty much dominate the foil surfing board construction market with a lot of major brands outsourcing them to produce their boards.
“50k” waterproof foam in a vacuum infusion layup.
While they don’t have all the big name surfing shapers like XTR has, it would be amazing to see a construction comparison.
Sounds interesting to me
why does a foil board need to be made out of foam? you could make it out of plywood and it wouldnt matter.
Yep, have been thinking about this too, would be interesting. Appletree seem to avoid the vents by increasing the laminat-foam-bond using vacuum infusion. They started as a kiteboard and surfboard brand where xps makes total sense, but from a certain volume upwards like for wing or downwind foil boards, xps comes with a bit of a weight penalty and you'd be better off doing eps with a full sandwich construction, which is lighter, stiffer and stronger. Windsurfing brands have been doing that for decades. Firewire's doing sandwich but you loose the ability to customise.
How do the XTR epoxy constructions compare to CI spinetek technology and if you could only take one which would you pick?
XTR10 has more pop in the Carbon Lite lay up. It’s also way more durable. I would go XTR10 without a doubt
I remember seen Rusty boards with XTR over 10 years ago..
XTR Epoxy Pro has been doing Extruded foam for years… maybe since the late 90’s early 2000
Hi Noel. . I’m reaching out because I’m looking for a great durable small to grovel board. I’ve been riding a lost hydra 5’5” in libtech and have found the durability disappointing with this board. I curious about your g-skate in XTR. I’m trying to figure out what size in a g-skate to get. At a $1000 it’s an expensive mistake to make getting the wrong one
Libtech is pretty durable….
The XTR10 is excellent but I’m not sure it’s more durable compared to Libtech.
The flex, performance, and feel is way better compared to Libtech though.
hey quick question, does this foam slowly yellow like PU and epoxy or does it stay white like Varial foam? thanks!
I head the old XTR foam versions it yellow slowly but this new stuff is supposed to stay white longer. It might yellow eventually
The foam core like PU yellows not the resin (Polyester) on all epoxies the foam dosent yellow is the epoxy resin that yellows.
Hey Noel,
How does this float compared to PU?
Roughly 1 whole liter more. So if your PU/Poly volume is 30L then a 30L XTR10 will float like 31L. You can order your XTR10 roughly 1L less on your customs. Tell the folks at XTR I sent you and they will get your volume and flex dialed.
Super interesting. How would you compare this to Black Sheep or Dark Arts in terms of durability and performance?
XTR10 is way more durable in compression strength. The XTR10 foam is water proof too… so if you get a ding it will not suck water in like normal EPS foam.
I think the folks at XTR and Dark Arts should get together and wrap some XTR10 foam in Carbon.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 my brain is melting just trying to fathom that combination...
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Kelly slater has been riding this XTR foam, maybe a XTR colab with firewire coming up.
Great video. So can shapers order xtr blanks or they have to go thru the board companies that are already set up?
Not sure… check with the folks at XTR
I was using XTR 7.C but it yellowed faster than PU or EPS.
How is the yellowing resistance of XTR 10?
I hear XTR is using better epoxy resin now and it won’t yellow quickly. I hate the yellowing on my boards too. You can also airbrush your boards too… get them sprayed white
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Thanks for the answer!
I would like to avoid the spray if possible as it is somewhat heavy.
I would be happy to see an improvement to a yellowing level similar to PU and EPS.
@@user-by8km5tb3l The deck strength and pop is more important to me. However… this new XTR10 foam is supposed to stay white longer
The answer is yes.
Is the weight of XTR10 foam comparable to the pu/poly core?
You can make the weight similar with glassing layups.
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Does this new version of XTR really not chatter when the wave has texture on windy days? The tendency to chatter is the only thing stopping me from going Epoxy. I'm seriously considering getting the Phantom in XTR 10. If it rides like a PU but just lighter, more buoyant, and more durable then it sounds like a win win. Or is PU still the better option for those bigger gnarlier days?
That's what I love about the Lib Tech boards. They handle bumpy conditions better than anything else I've ever tried. Which is EPS and Poly...lol.
Let the folks at XTR help you dial one for waves with some size. I heard Peter Mel rides XTR Foam in bigger waves and likes it a lot. He glasses it heavier….
interesting, never noticed this 'chatter' in larger waves, even big hurricane swells, or on the windiest crappiest knee high days, all they do is fly, but maybe your homebreak is jaws or waimea...
@@xisotopex Really? I don't surf "big" waves at all, but I notice my epoxy boards feel different than my PU boards. They feel "higher" on the water and feel like they get bounced around a little more. That's what I understand as 'chatter'. PU cuts through those conditions better. And my Lib Tech cuts through better than any of them.
It's not like it's a deal breaker though. My 2 go to boards are both epoxy, but there is a difference to me.
Great question, chatter comes when the ooutside core like fiberglass and the inside core have different flex, in that case the board vibrates and dosent adapt to the wave surface. I personally have favorite boards for Sunset and Todos with Parallel carbon, the boards are faster and easy to control. It also can be glass with center carbon. THE BOARD NEED TO BE STIFF NOT HEAVY. Stringers are inconsistent and not nessesary on XTR
surfboard industry is like 50 years behind the composite development. stuck at 4-4 while there is thousands types of fabrics. where is dyneema, inegra, aramid and stuff like that ? javier is doing a good job if you compare to other, but when he talks like enhancing torsion by parael carbon, tou can see how little he undersands some basics. and you can only compare foams like this if they are exactly the same density which I doubt. gosh, still long journey ahead to get a proper board. think about oh I rode my car for first 8 hours and it has just a little presure dents, what an amazing car :))
Strange post. Javi is doing a good job compared to others… Then you vomit on the rest of the episode.
How about this… buying a PU/Poly with a light glass job is such a waste of money. They last me 2-3 weeks max and the deck is destroyed. I say pressure dents in this episode… maybe I should call them huge foot wells as I completely smash the deck to shreds. I cannot even sell the board because the deck is hammered in 2 weeks. What a waste of $800.
Maybe your a light footed surfer like some of my friends and pressure dents or foot wells aren’t a thing for you.
I’ve tested so many boards and constructions in the last eight years of doing this show and XTR 10 is legit in flex and durability. The best I’ve ridden to date. Just that simple…
Maybe the surfing industry is way behind in technology but I struggle with all the negative comments from folks that bitch about things that need improvement like surfboard foam.
If Javi doesn’t understand much about foam and torsion flex then the rest of the surf industry… including myself are hopeless. Let’s just give up on innovation.
my point was that any pressure dents and wells shouldnt be acceptable at any product. we are living in 21.century where the current technology enables building boards that arent denting, nor colapsing, can go on rocks without significant damage , have extreme response and still be lighter than standart pupe if you like. and they can last basicaly forever with a minor touch up here and there. torsional stiffness is only enhanced by diagonal reinforcements like carbon tape X shape cross or better thin layers of uni carbon at +and- 45degree.
We can add more advance fabrics and do real tests with specs, the issue here is costs and some surfers will not understand the results, and surf shops cant explain the benefits, every attempt in the past have their books turn red, Salomon, Hydroflex, Aviso, etc. Yes theres room for improvement, Poly board is so easy and affordable that anybody can built in a garage.
I'm kind of surprised you haven't reviewed a lib tech surfboard. Especially the newer ones. Closed foam waterproof core and super durable. I'd be interested to know what you think about the way they surf.
They feel pretty heavy….
@@surfnshowreviews7777 That's true, they are a bit heavier than a PU, but apparently the newer ones are lighter than they used to be. The nice thing about the weight and the material though is that they have virtually no chatter like PU or epoxy. They're fantastic when things get a bit rough. I think they'd make the best travel boards...lol.
Anyway, I've got one but I've "out grown" it a little bit as it's a bit too big for me. And I can only compare it to my limited experience with a couple of PU's and a few epoxy's. It'd be cool if you added one of the Lib tech lost models in a direct comparison with their other material counterparts. Food for thought! :)
Yeah, to heavy for me too
First off. The people at XTR are great. However...
I took very good care of my XTR 10 board. It delaminated pretty bad from a small pressure ding on the rail; they have a one year warranty so they paid for the repair, which is cool. A couple months later and the board started delaminating on the bottom deck, no idea why. I don't leave it in my car or subject it to heat, or anything that they say not to do. It just started to delaminate for no apparent reason. The warranty is one year. Due to an injury, I didn't start surfing the board until a few months after I got it. It's no longer under warranty, I'm a couple weeks past. Not sure what to do. Very sad that my board lasted less than a year.
That’s a bummer… sorry to hear that but appreciate you posting it here for the rest of to know.
I highly recommend talking to Shey and Javi and let them come up with a good solution to take care of you.
I would talk to them about it maybe being a defective foam and ask the to replace it. Straight up ask them for a board replacement
Still waiting for a response. I've talked to both of them in the past, but that was when the board was under warranty.
Update** Shey responded and wants to correct this.
The reason I ask is because I’ve had a lot of libtech boards and the most recent I purchased a last summer the lost hydra. I’m not tough on my boards but this one has terrible deck compression and pressure dings on the bottom. Super bummed with this board. Surfs well but not as durable as libtech I’ve had in the past.
Hit up the folks at Libtech… see what they say
The PU seemed to hold up the best when getting run over! Odd…
Not even close… the top layer of a PU/Poly is pretty tough… however the top layer is taken down and under it is soft and dents pretty easy. If we would have shaped each blank the PU foam would have been destroyed.
Is that better than varial foam?
This is new comparison we need.
Varial foam is good too but this new XTR10 foam has better compression strength. It won’t pressure dent as much as the Varial foam
@surfnshowreviews7777 now comes the rabbit hole of what model to get... NB2 for average days in Huntington or pyzalien 2... seems like 2 of your all time favorite models
@@spiffjiff05 NB2
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Placed an order today for XTR10 custom NB2. Went with wooden stringer since I'm 210lbs and that would have been a LOT of carbon. Appreciate all that you do, bought my first spinetek NB2 when you did your review and loved it (board just turned yellow and got destroyed over the years = Craig's List)
Maybe Javier can figure out the delam issues I’ve had with my XTR boards.
Did a new xtr10 board of yours Delaminate?
would you repair this new foam with Epoxy or Polyester resin?
If the foam doesn't absorb water? how does the foam absorb resin to have a strong bond to the fiberglass?
Fix with Epoxy Resin
interesting
I’d like to see a more technical strength test. If the car is the control here and you’re running over different shape blanks, and comparing the crushing in those areas which are most different (I.e. rounded rail vs square edge) then you’re not showing any meaningful conclusion.
Maybe we should have shaped the foam… then the PU foam would have looked way worse. It was a simple test…
Maybe you can do your own episode and text and enlighten us.
No, it's not! Unless you're surfing at the north pole the board will eventually be in the hot car or on the beach and will delaminate. Just got 2 xtr10 surfboards last year and one of them is already a mattress in the foot placement areas. You basically trade some pressure dents for delamination which renders the board unusable in a few months.
I have multiple XTR10 boards and I’ve had them for 6 months + and no delaminating and very light pressure dents.
There's more to a surfboard then the density of the foam. A comprehensive test should mimic a real world situation i.e. you travel with multiple boards in the car and you leave it in the car then surf it the next day. I guarantee you that all the 6 boards will delaminate within a few months. I think you're doing a great disservice to the community by not going through the cons of this construction too...This construction is very heat sensitive and prone to delam, most people will prefer dents over delam.
@@SYMMETRYCAST I’ve had delimitation on all types of foam PU/and EPS when you leave them in a hot car or in a board bag on the beach on a hot day. Bottom line…. Don’t do that and you won’t get delimitation. You’re doing your Surfboards a huge disservice when you subject it to heat. I don’t leave my boards in a place where delimitation can happen.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 acording to this logic if you take care of the board and you don't put presure on it it wont dent, if you re careful it wont ding so then why is xtr better? What I'm saying is that xtr is more likely to not dent but at the same time way more likely to delam then any pu or eps. Now if they would be honest about it they wouldn't increment the version every few years claiming they fixed it. If this would not be a comercial, and would be an actual review would have mentioned the pros and cons. Who would buy a board that is so likely to delam in a few months? and what is next the best construction one that can't be in contact with water?
@@SYMMETRYCAST I’ve had multiple XTR sleds and not one has delaminated. All of my boards are in the garage here in Texas where it gets triple digits in heat and I have no issues with delaminating on all the techs. My point is…. I use XTR, Dark Arts, EPS/Epoxy, Varial Foam, Surftech constructions, PU/Poly, Firewire and many more and I have no issues with Delam.
Your comments on pressure dents…. I destroy with foot wells and pressure dents in 2-4 weeks every time. I love them and hate them at the same time. A PU/Poly is the biggest waste of money for me…. It might not delam but the deck is so hammered after a couple sessions the board is worthless.
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