This is a prime example of white privileged do much less then the competition who look different but they say you are better the standard is very low for white people 💯
Mahomes first 4 years: 4 home AFC Championship games 2 SB Appearances 1 SB Victory 1 SB MVP 1 Regular Season MVP We're still not finished with year 4. Skip stop the hate!
Mahomes’ victory over the Bills, January 2022 is a difference maker to my mind. It’s like he went through an evolution beginning last year with the humiliation in the SB. This year 1st half he struggled but he evolved for the better, succeeding in the 2nd half of the season and culminating in his stunning comeback against the Bills in the playoffs. Now, he’s harder, stronger, smarter. He’s still going to lose to the Rams because the league’s primary purpose is the humiliation of Detroit, and he will lose to Brady next year because Brady wins the SB every other year, but then Mahomes gets another title. Go ahead and place your bets, you’re welcome.
Mayfield is no where near a top 5. Maybe in the Draft busts he could wind up in the top five but not all time.. he has to be better then Brady, both Manning's, Big Ben, Rodgers,
I hate when Skip just lies & says Patrick makes throws behind his back & between his legs. He's literally never done that in a game. I have seen him throw behind his back in practice so yes he CAN do that but NEVER in a game. Skip is so salty the Cowboys didn't pick Mahomes & that Mahomes is tht only quarterback that actually has a chance long term to challenge Brady's legacy.
Not taking anything away from Mahomes, one of the best in the game and will continue to be so for some time I am sure. Burrow came to a team that had 2 wins the season before and has almost single handedly brought the Bengals back to life. Mahomes came to a team that hadn't had a losing season for five years before he joined them and they were already quite talented and had Andy Reid, one of the great NFL coaches at the helm already. Burrows has changed the entire mentality of the Bengals along with Zac Taylor. As QBs they both are impressive but what Burrow has done for Cincinnati is damn near miraculous. Only time will tell the end of this argument, but I see great things from both of these guys in the future, but what Burrow has overcome and produced with what he had to work with from the start compared to Mahomes is more impressive to me.
Lets say You are the gm of a nfl team. You have a good oline, and nice weapons on offense. For whatever reason, both the bengals and the chiefa approach you wanting to trade you their qbs for a first. Who you taking. I would take mahomes any day of the week.
@@TheOrac haha. that's hilarious. so mahomes has one bad half and he's worse than burrow who already had horrible knee injury? so when burrow falls short and has 0 titles, you won't be singing same tune
@TheLirJEt86 Burrow already has a title, kid.... An AFC Championship he just snatched out of Mahomes hands. He beat Mahomes 2x in the same month. Once at home (fans blamed the refs) and then at Arrowhead (fans blame the coach). Blame Joey B for being an absolute real deal monster. When Pat Mahomes turns the lights out at night, he asks his girlfriend to check under the bed to make sure Joey B isn't there to come out to get him again. When 9 has a title will you change your little tune?
Undisputed should have a special week where no talk about Cowboys, Lebron, Baker, and Brady is permitted. Love segments like this where they actually debate something new instead of the same worn out topics
I wish they would allow their audience to suggest topics. That would be a fun way to engage the audience. Jenny could read the topic of the day and let them respond.
I give Joe Burrow his props, he has that IT factor. He is going to be special for Cincinnati. But Mahomes has been that dude since he started. What he’s done under Andy Reid is truly something amazing. Skip is crazy, he’s a bonafide hater. He’ll never give Mahomes his credit
Skip hates lebron, Aaron Rodgers and Mahomes. If they win, they had it easy, refs gave it to them, other team bailed them out, not impressive If they lose at all: HAHAHA FRAUDS BRADY/MJ BETTER HAHAHA GARBAGE PLAYERS But then He will defend brady and the Cowboys no what happens. Besides nick Wright, the most biased person I’ve ever seen.
Mahomes has much better talent to throw to than burrow.. Look how much times Burrow has gotten sacked this season and then look at this completion %... Hes has the highest completion % while being most sacked and less talented recievers!
@@DeletedUser662 soooo True he hates Aaron Rodgers and points out every little mistake but he doesn't do it with Brady it's hilarious actually. Same with Patrick mahomes and that hurts double because I'm a huge Packer fan and a huge Chiefs fan before you say oh you just hopped on the bandwagon I love the Chiefs since they got Alex Smith and only because they got Alex Smith. But what you said is 100% true.
Long term Mahomes hasn't even been seen yet. Burroughs playing great, but this is a super reach. What Mahomes has done this early in his career is unheard of
@@SirPerfectful I think he's saying that the several borroughs in New York are playing good. I wonder how he feels about Staten island at running back.
@@jjconjsj324 Not really. Most people realize how super talented he is at a young age. The only thing keeping him from being in the conversation for best quarterbacks of all time is the fact he hasn't played in the league very long which will change when he has played a few more years and has another Superbowl or 2 under his belt (which I believe he will accomplish and probably more). I hear about how great Mahomes is all the time by our media and people around me and this is coming from a 49ers fan. He is hardly underestimated. People know he's gonna put up some huge numbers and get nervous seeing their favorite team playing against him.
Burrows is talented but Skip is reaching and he has definitely not proven he is better than Mahomes. Skip is just going against the grain and being the dissenting voice against Mahomes like he does to Lebron. Mahomes is once in a generation talent not just as a QB but also being compared to talent at any position. His accomplishments in his short career (like you said) is unprecedented. Burrow hasn't reached that level or even won a Superbowl yet. With these 17 game seasons and pass friendly era, Mahomes has the opportunity to bust all kinds of all time records and he probably will.
@@MrGenexxx literally I hate Bron haters. Y’all literally bring him up more than his actual fans do. Find something to do man, hating on successful people only pays Skip Bayless.
In last years SB, SB 55, Mahomes did EVERYTHING you could ask him to do to try and win. He ran the whole game, sacked 3 times, made crazy/impossible throws but his offense couldn't catch to save his life.
He didn’t fold in that SB. It was just a hard lost and his oline was hurt. It ironic imo that Brady lost a playoff game in similar fashion. Injury oline and playing a top 5 defense.
His offense could get nothing done, his practice squad(at the time) o line was making him run for his life every play. The performance said more about the Chiefs that season and Bucs defense then what he did
Mahomes is already cemented himself as the greatest chief ever. Now he’s working on greatest of all time. Don’t play with 15. Nothing beats raw talent+ a work ethic
100%. He knows rodgers for the most part is pretty much down. Just way to many playoff failures for him to be a threat to Brady. But mahomes has broken so many records and has surpassed so many all time greats already, skip is hearing footsteps coming for Brady’s status. He knows it’s only a matter of time before mahomes passes him. So he has to hurry and try and find and way to knock him. None of it has worked
Tired of people even mentioning Allen Herbert and burrow with mahomes until they win a Super Bowl they aren’t even in the same category. Mahomes over these past 4 years has been extraordinary
@Banquet Meal Which game? Because the Bengals D did that to him TWICE in the same month. Once at PBS and the other at Arrowhead. Joe Burrow is a MONSTER, kiddo.
It’s not like they have a bad roster though. Their defense is highly underrated and they have one of the best receiving corps in the league, the only glaring weakness is the OL. Mahomes walked into a better situation but Burrow is by no means carrying a bad team to the playoffs on his own.
Mahomes may be the greatest of THIS generation, but it’s hard to see him passing or even tying Brady at 7 championships. He’s even 0-2 against Brady in the playoffs. Last super bowl had a big impact on the GOAT debate.
@@NYGForever I agree about the 7 championships, that's just impossible. Mahomes would have to win atleast 4 and rack up crazy numbers/accolades to surpass brady because brady is so decorated.
@@NYGForever he’s 26, he’s not on some short running clock. 1 game isn’t going to be defining for him. He could go on to win 5 straight who knows. Super Bowls aren’t the only metric in comparing QBs either
Mahomes was drafted to a ready made team. Already a playoff team and Super Bowl contender. Burrow was drafted to a team that had not won a playoff game in almost 30 years when he was drafted. Burrow has take the Bengals from 2 wins, to the AFC championship game with the worst Oline in football.
The Chiefs WERE NOT SB contenders before Mahomes came. They never made it to the AFC Championship game before Mahomes, let alone the SB. What are you talking about? And they were not the worst o-line in football. Burrow holds the ball too long, because he's trying to go deep with Chase.
@@stoplyingabout They were still a better team than the bengals, And yeah some of them were burrows fault and burrow would usually have to scramble out of the pocket to and make plays and usually he would have two and half second to throw the ball but most of them were because of the Oline.
I was watching Joe Burrow body language after all them sacks. Popped up and handed off to the ref like nothing happened or nothing was at stake. Super cool.
Unc said it: mahomes knew he couldn’t turn it over vs buffalo so he didn’t… they play to the level of their opponents most of the time that’s why most of their games are close even tho they shouldn’t be
No, that's where the Owner has instructed the coaching staff to coach to lose because he has 10 million against his own team and is playing the point spread! And if the coaching staff refuses to do so, they will be ran out of town like Jimmie Johnson got ran out of Dallas in 1993 because he refused to lose the game against the Buffalo Bills!
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he's so bitter that Mahomes has a chance to eclipse Brady when it's all set and done so he tries to crown other young QB's with less accomplishments than him
@UCiZde8mGdsHftjiOfJ7EeJQ how is he in a perfect situation? The defense always give up a lot of points and his offensive line is average at best. Brady is the one that's always been in the perfect situation
@@asanitationstompout84732 scenarios with Mahomes. 1. He wins multiple Sb’s early in his career then goes on a drought after Hill, Reid and Kelce leaves 2. He maintains this level of greatness like Brady where he makes it to the Conference championship every year.
@@tmot6714 tyreek is 27! Kelce is 32 but his position he can play til 35/36, plus mahomes is 26 so he still has a minimum 12 years of what you see!!! Rodgers is 38 and mvp!
The Bengals built that offense beautifully. Really put those picks to work. Burrow, Chase, Mixon, Higgins, Boyd all drafted and huge contributors. My ravens need to take notes. We only have the QB
He's not an analyst. He's an entertainer. Says whatever is provoking or takes the contrarian role for entertainment. He could not care less if you hate him, because haters are gonna watch and click the same just to scream at him lol
Yeah he walked on to a team with Kelce & Tyreek & Andy Reid. Like when Drew Brees went to NOLA with Sean Payton & Reggie Bush. Cinci is a good situation for Burrow but that KC offense is another level, and Zach Taylor has made some bad noticeable mistakes. I don't think he's the Bengals HC long term.
We have yet to see what Mahomes looks like on an average or below average team. Under Mahomes the Chiefs have had one of if not the best roster in football. When Hill and Kelce age out or get injured we will see what Mahomes is. As for Burrow... We know what he is now guiding that roster he has past Mahomes and to the SB. It's not a stretch to say Burrow will be better all said and done but it isn't a lock either. Just have to see what Mahomes does with a less than all-star cast on offense around him.
We've also seen Burrow make several dangerous passes in these last 2 games and get picked off twice. He has been far from perfect. The hype is already out of control. Burrow will need to improve a lot to be one of the greats. Maybe it will happen and maybe it won't.
@@stickman1742 speaking facts. people are nuts. do people not see how good Chase, Higgins and Boyd are? and they have a very nice tightend. dude won 2 games in which he was less than 10% chance to win. titans blew that game at midfield tied with the ball and chiefs were up 21-3, and also had them week 17, like 27-13. mahomes did choke though, Andy was out coached. you can't tell me no one was open the whole second half. weird game. thankfully, I hedged, but not fully
We have yet to see what burrow is like without Higgins, Chase, Boyd, mixon! Didn't he have chase in college? How could u discredit mahomes for having weopons but then praise burrow when he has MORE weopons?🤦
Burrow was drafted first overall, had to start as a rookie, blew his ACL, and now he’s playing in the AFC championship game after being sacked 51 times absolutely absurd
It’s a bad comparison Joe played one full season and they comparing him to mahomes. But could mahomes do what Joe did and that make the afc championship game with the bengals
@@terquanrush9414 Yes. He carried the 31st ranked defense to the AFC title in his first season starting. A game they lost because Dee ford lined up offsides. Ya think that's easy when your defense allows 30 points a game?
Two things. Skip, thank you for doubting Mahomes since his first snap in NFL. You come up with every excuse in the world to let off Baker, Dak, and whoever else you show bias towards. If Baker or Dak had the hardware (SB ring, MVP, SB MVP, four conference championships in their first four years) you would be thinking they were the next GOAT. I guess there is something about Mahomes you don't like. Please never ever jump on the Mahomes band wagon. Not welcome. Second, anyone who thinks year after year that the Cowboys can do something special makes me question their judgement on many levels. There were many Chief seasons where I knew it wasn't their year. Even when they were going to the playoffs. As long as they have Jerry Jones they will never win. As long as they have DAK they will never win. The more you think the Cowboys can do something special the more "washed" you look.
@@TheSmoothToad he knows Mahomes is the biggest threat to Bradys legacy. He’s said similar things about Josh Allen compared to Mahomes when none of these other young qb’s have anywhere near the resume that Mahomes has
i didn’t hear one argument for burrow ahead of mahomes lmao. Skip just said a lot of things about Burrow but absolutely no reason why he’s better than Mahomes 😂
Titans were only in the game because the Bengals O-Line stinks. Bengals led in score the entire game and the titans got away with a controversial fluke interception.
Tannehill didn’t play the best Cowboys fan just for the record but at the end of the day he was leading them on a game-winning drive or tying drive I forget but he hit the receiver in the hands and he popped it up for an interception Shannon said it was Tannehill‘s fault because he should’ve thrown it lower but I don’t know if this is the NFL ball hits you in the hands you gotta catch it,
Bengals beat the Titans because of Mike Vrabel’s decision to go for 2 instead of kicking the extra point in the first half.Tannehill didn’t play good but if they had kicked the extra point the Titans would have been winning by one point and there would’ve been no need for Taneyhill to Be throwing the ball at the end of the game
Seeing Borrow win after 9 sacks was amazing, I just hope the Bengals don’t expect that to be his super power and get that boy some protection please. Protect your franchise.
listen I am a chiefs fan and I along with everyone else love Joe burrow and I'm not gonna dispute that he maybe, could possibly be on Mahomes tier in the future, but I mean what more does Patty have to do man. I'm not saying he'll always be the best in the league but with his resume up to now he should unanimously be seen as the best in the league now and for the future until proven otherwise
When media members hear that he's the next brady or will surpass brady, they have to see it. Media members and Brady Fans find a huge disrespect when a person who has done a lot in a short span be in t he conversation when Tom has done it for over 20 years.They have huge respect for Brady and I do to, HE'S THE G.O.A.T. But, I'm also a realist and know that it's impossible for a QB to win a superbowl every year.
Joe Burrow has played 9 “must win games” during his college & pro career 2019 LSU - Bama, UGA (SEC Title), Oklahoma (Semi Final), Clemson (Natty) 2021 Bengals - Ravens (Week 16), Chiefs (Week 17). Raiders (Wild Card), Titan (Divisional), Chiefs (AFC Championship) 9 - 0 W - L 3,614 Passing Yds. (401/game) 31 TD 2 Int. And counting!
I love Burrow, maybe my second favorite QB in the league, but Skip seems to forget Mahomes has been to 2 SBs, SB MVP, Historical season that ended in a MVP. Damn Skip!
Were it not for Dee Ford's infamous offside penalty, Maholmes would likely have two Superbowl rings - Skip's out his mind. Burrow is good, but simply not Maholmes good, and likely never will be.
@@KJ-pn3ev that’s something people don’t consider when comparing Mahomes and Brady. Mahomes has never had a great defense while Brady has had them for most of his career
Burrow had an awesome year, but cant compare him to Mahomes yet. Come on now Skip, give Burrow a couple more years, and if he continues to play well, then maybe you have an argument.
This is like saying…in NBA terms “Luka Doncic will be more special than Giannis Antetokounmpo” 😂. One guy is trying to accomplish what the other did, both in 20s too.
It's worse cause Luka 22 and Giannis 27. Patrick is 26 and Joe is 25.... 1 year bro. How you going say he be more special when he haven't done half of what Patrick done. Even talent wise I don't see him being more talented, he can definitely be close. Luka have time, even if he don't do all what Giannis done he be much closer than Joe.
Nah at least Luka has accomplished enough individually as a youngster to merit some projection (he’s got a long way to reach Giannis level tho). This is literally Burrows only major accomplishment, and it’s a team accolade not individual.
Luca is gonna leave Giannis in smoke when it’s said and done. Luca is 10X more talented, when experience catches up with him he’s gonna be xtra special
@@tyslims2805 stick to football lol Luka has 2 MVPs, FMVP and a DPOY to catch up on, and we know he’s never touching DPOY. The Mavs don’t look to be giving him any help on the championship front, so he’s gonna need more MVP’s. And Giannis is a top 3 MVP candidate 😂
@@scarfaceaceo You better keep that same energy once luka leaves the mavs, joins a contender and get truly appreciated. Stop hating and accept the fact that luka has a better ceiling and more potential that giannis who needed every superstar in the league injured to win a championship
Those two are the gold standard. The 2020s will be an exciting time for football! These young qbs are following in the footsteps of Brady, Brees, Manning, Rodgers, etc. and they're doing it spectactularly. It's like the early 2000s all over again.
@@Kennedy1op yea but that was a great, could go either way Game and Henry was 100% for almost 150 yd and 3TDs. This hobbled Henry they kept wasting downs on, mixed with the real Tannehill showing up woulda gotten them blown outtta Nashville last wkend lol
@@ayaslayer Its just biased because of this season and Lamar was out. Half of them haven't even won an MVP yet but I guess it's gonna take Lamar Two to get recognition 😂
They are both incredible QBs and will both be at the top of the league for years. I'm sure they will beat each other throughout their careers based on their surrounding teams. Mahomes, Burrow, Allen, Herbert. Whoo boy. AFC is gonna be loaded with top tier offenses for years.
Cheifs fan here. Love Burrow and I'm excited for this game and his future, but stop it. Mahomes is the reason we have these crazy expectations for QBs now.
Burrow is already a legend! 🔥 Only quarterback to win a natty, the Heisman, first draft pick, number one passer and a super bowl appearance in 3 year period.
I did NOT realize Burrow's only a year younger than Mahomes. I didn't think Burrow would be good, now I think he's going to be an all time great. The kid just does not feel fear. He won't be as flashy as Mahomes, of course. We are in for some great games with these young bucks: Mahomes, Burrow, Herbert, Allen, Jones - I feel like I'm forgetting someone.
I wouldn’t say class by himself because Josh Allen is right there he can do everything Mahomes can do just don’t have a ring other then that I don’t see a big difference.
@@marceld8961 ring or mvp and Josh needs to do it s few more times, this is Mahomes 4 season doing it at this high level so let's revisit this in a couple of seasons
@@Stev4e897 Maybe. But how about we just appreciate the person who actually did it and understand that it’s an enormous accomplishment and stop crowning guys after 4 years
I wanna see what Mahomes can do without Tyreek and Kelce for an extended period of time Alex Smith put up career numbers with the weapons Mahomes has, and the Redskins front office were dumb enough to think Alex Smith was having a late career resurgence
@@Jp-do9ny yet brady needed the tuck rule, cheating, a panther kicker, seahawks 1 yard playcalling blunder, saints getting the shaft by the refs, and falcons choking hardcore just to win 5 rings. Go figure.
bro skip really be hating on the most physically talented players😭look at the people he likes: Brady and Baker, then the people he hate, Mahomes, Allen to a degree, Rodgers, Stafford etc😭😭😭
Mahomes is incredible. He's a future hall of famer. However, before he was drafted by the Chiefs, the Chiefs had made 3 straight playoff appearances with some wins. When Joe Burrow came to Cincinnati, they were coming off of 2 of the worst seasons in NFL history. Burrow also had his knee shredded in his first year after being drafted during the COVID madness and not being able to spend a lot of time in training camp before his first season. In his second year he took a team predicted to come in last in their division to the AFC Championship game all the while leading the league in sacks taken and completion percentage. Again, not taking anything away from Mahomes, but you have to recognize the odds that Burrow has overcome.
But they literally have a top 10 running back, top 5 wide receiver, another receiver in the top 15, and a solid Tight end and a average defense. Mahomes had something similar to this until ol boy got in trouble but that defense as the bottom of the league he had to carry to the playoffs
Skip: “I love all these things about this guy that hasn’t done nearly as much as Mahomes… I don’t like Mahomes, so I won’t talk about how much better he is so far.”
I'm kinda with skip, Mahomes is generational but with all the accolades in his first 4 years there's no reason he should have a complete meltdown in the 2nd half of a Championship Game at Home when he was up 18, that's Aaron Rodgers territory. Joe Borrow was ice in his first playoff appearance in his 2nd year on a team that hasn't been in that spot in decades. I can't write him off, dude plays with stones, he's hardly ever rattled & imo i think he could turn out to be more special
Mahomes was set up for success from the start. Look at his team. It was only a matter of whether or not he would perform, which he has. The Chiefs success so far proves it. However, this should have been expected, so there’s nothing surprising. What Joe Burrow and the Bengals have done at least this year is special. I don’t like making takes like the one Skip made because football is too reliant on the overall team more so than the individual. At least that’s what I believe in. Sure the QB can make a big difference, but you don’t need an amazing QB. You just need a good to great one when your team is already exceptional.
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It's going to be an upset and Bengals are going to take it ! So let's see the reaction from Shannon and Skip Monday morning
This is a prime example of white privileged do much less then the competition who look different but they say you are better the standard is very low for white people 💯
Mahomes first 4 years:
4 home AFC Championship games
2 SB Appearances
1 SB Victory
1 SB MVP
1 Regular Season MVP
We're still not finished with year 4.
Skip stop the hate!
Brady>>
And If it wasn’t for an offsides on dee ford it would be 3 sb appearances and probably 2 sb wins
Facts
Mahomes’ victory over the Bills, January 2022 is a difference maker to my mind. It’s like he went through an evolution beginning last year with the humiliation in the SB. This year 1st half he struggled but he evolved for the better, succeeding in the 2nd half of the season and culminating in his stunning comeback against the Bills in the playoffs.
Now, he’s harder, stronger, smarter. He’s still going to lose to the Rams because the league’s primary purpose is the humiliation of Detroit, and he will lose to Brady next year because Brady wins the SB every other year, but then Mahomes gets another title.
Go ahead and place your bets, you’re welcome.
@@mintchevvv1834 mahomes is better on the run,.out the pocket, bigger arm, faster, etc! I'm taking mahomes for the style I like
All I have to say is if mayfield did what mahomes has done skip would say he’s gonna be top 5 all time
Mayfield is no where near a top 5. Maybe in the Draft busts he could wind up in the top five but not all time.. he has to be better then Brady, both Manning's, Big Ben, Rodgers,
Future fitzpatrick
@@yogib37 lmao
@@yogib37 ben not top 5
@@yogib37 rofl! Big Ben top 5? What are you smoking?
The day Mahomes actually does a behind the back pass skip is gonna go crazy 😂
And everyone here would also go crazy the day you actually come up with your own comments 🤣🤣
how many more comments are you going to make lmao
@@stunner1622 LOL
He';; have to be standing on his head and be wearing a blindfold too. Then...and only then will Skippy get off his Cowboys
I hate when Skip just lies & says Patrick makes throws behind his back & between his legs. He's literally never done that in a game. I have seen him throw behind his back in practice so yes he CAN do that but NEVER in a game. Skip is so salty the Cowboys didn't pick Mahomes & that Mahomes is tht only quarterback that actually has a chance long term to challenge Brady's legacy.
I think we are blessed for all of this young crop of quarterbacks to come into the NFL lately, so many thrills and spills....
Except trash prescott
The only bad thing is they're all in the AFC
@@jjconjsj324 I’ve noticed that also The pendulum will swing back in the other direction
Not taking anything away from Mahomes, one of the best in the game and will continue to be so for some time I am sure. Burrow came to a team that had 2 wins the season before and has almost single handedly brought the Bengals back to life. Mahomes came to a team that hadn't had a losing season for five years before he joined them and they were already quite talented and had Andy Reid, one of the great NFL coaches at the helm already. Burrows has changed the entire mentality of the Bengals along with Zac Taylor. As QBs they both are impressive but what Burrow has done for Cincinnati is damn near miraculous. Only time will tell the end of this argument, but I see great things from both of these guys in the future, but what Burrow has overcome and produced with what he had to work with from the start compared to Mahomes is more impressive to me.
Lets say You are the gm of a nfl team. You have a good oline, and nice weapons on offense. For whatever reason, both the bengals and the chiefa approach you wanting to trade you their qbs for a first. Who you taking. I would take mahomes any day of the week.
Well said Art
@@amatmc8319 I’m taking burrow
@@TheOrac haha. that's hilarious. so mahomes has one bad half and he's worse than burrow who already had horrible knee injury? so when burrow falls short and has 0 titles, you won't be singing same tune
@TheLirJEt86 Burrow already has a title, kid.... An AFC Championship he just snatched out of Mahomes hands. He beat Mahomes 2x in the same month. Once at home (fans blamed the refs) and then at Arrowhead (fans blame the coach). Blame Joey B for being an absolute real deal monster. When Pat Mahomes turns the lights out at night, he asks his girlfriend to check under the bed to make sure Joey B isn't there to come out to get him again.
When 9 has a title will you change your little tune?
Finally a segment on the Bengals, they didn't talk about their big win over the Titans or anything about them the whole playoffs.
As a chiefs fan I was surprised too I wanted to hear the Titans get trashed
They're doing off-season Cowboys segments during the height of the playoffs.
Thats because it wasnt a big win. The titans were the biggest one seed fraud that we have had in a long time. Their qb is ryan tannehill.
Big win? Bro they got lucky for beating a "meh" team😂
Yeah bengals aren't getting fair exposure but I don't think the team minds, they do the talking on the field
Undisputed should have a special week where no talk about Cowboys, Lebron, Baker, and Brady is permitted. Love segments like this where they actually debate something new instead of the same worn out topics
YESSSSS
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You 4got westbrook lol
I wish they would allow their audience to suggest topics. That would be a fun way to engage the audience. Jenny could read the topic of the day and let them respond.
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Skip literally wakes up and says “how can I say something dumber then I said yesterday” everyday before he gets on National TV
Lol
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@@swoldier8516 shut up and put a shirt on boy
Facts!
I give Joe Burrow his props, he has that IT factor. He is going to be special for Cincinnati. But Mahomes has been that dude since he started. What he’s done under Andy Reid is truly something amazing. Skip is crazy, he’s a bonafide hater. He’ll never give Mahomes his credit
I totally agree..Skip is a hater of Mahomes
Skip hates lebron, Aaron Rodgers and Mahomes. If they win, they had it easy, refs gave it to them, other team bailed them out, not impressive
If they lose at all: HAHAHA FRAUDS BRADY/MJ BETTER HAHAHA GARBAGE PLAYERS
But then He will defend brady and the Cowboys no what happens.
Besides nick Wright, the most biased person I’ve ever seen.
skip thinks Dak is good but wont give Mahomes credit lol
Mahomes has much better talent to throw to than burrow..
Look how much times Burrow has gotten sacked this season and then look at this completion %... Hes has the highest completion % while being most sacked and less talented recievers!
@@DeletedUser662 soooo True he hates Aaron Rodgers and points out every little mistake but he doesn't do it with Brady it's hilarious actually. Same with Patrick mahomes and that hurts double because I'm a huge Packer fan and a huge Chiefs fan before you say oh you just hopped on the bandwagon I love the Chiefs since they got Alex Smith and only because they got Alex Smith. But what you said is 100% true.
Long term Mahomes hasn't even been seen yet. Burroughs playing great, but this is a super reach. What Mahomes has done this early in his career is unheard of
People are truly underestimating what Mahomes has accomplished in such a short time
"Burroughs" HUH??
@@SirPerfectful I think he's saying that the several borroughs in New York are playing good. I wonder how he feels about Staten island at running back.
@@jjconjsj324 Not really. Most people realize how super talented he is at a young age. The only thing keeping him from being in the conversation for best quarterbacks of all time is the fact he hasn't played in the league very long which will change when he has played a few more years and has another Superbowl or 2 under his belt (which I believe he will accomplish and probably more). I hear about how great Mahomes is all the time by our media and people around me and this is coming from a 49ers fan. He is hardly underestimated. People know he's gonna put up some huge numbers and get nervous seeing their favorite team playing against him.
Burrows is talented but Skip is reaching and he has definitely not proven he is better than Mahomes. Skip is just going against the grain and being the dissenting voice against Mahomes like he does to Lebron. Mahomes is once in a generation talent not just as a QB but also being compared to talent at any position. His accomplishments in his short career (like you said) is unprecedented. Burrow hasn't reached that level or even won a Superbowl yet. With these 17 game seasons and pass friendly era, Mahomes has the opportunity to bust all kinds of all time records and he probably will.
When Skip don’t root for you he may rank a baby ahead of you in a segment.
This is not LeStatPad segment. Go cry over there, bronsexual
"I just think that baby has a little more depth than Patick Mahomes..... he certainly has the potential"
@@MrGenexxx yet u brought up bron?very weird
@@valzod3808 😂😂😂😂
@@MrGenexxx literally I hate Bron haters. Y’all literally bring him up more than his actual fans do. Find something to do man, hating on successful people only pays Skip Bayless.
In last years SB, SB 55, Mahomes did EVERYTHING you could ask him to do to try and win. He ran the whole game, sacked 3 times, made crazy/impossible throws but his offense couldn't catch to save his life.
Facts
He didn’t fold in that SB. It was just a hard lost and his oline was hurt. It ironic imo that Brady lost a playoff game in similar fashion. Injury oline and playing a top 5 defense.
His offense could get nothing done, his practice squad(at the time) o line was making him run for his life every play. The performance said more about the Chiefs that season and Bucs defense then what he did
@@kellz1703 Yeah but Brady didn't go out like a chump and get destroyed, he actually scored points.
And Offensive Line Couldn't Protect
Shannon just reminded me of Kawhi during his all-star post-game interview. "Not sponsored by Gatorade" lmao
Facts I don’t know what he put up tho
Smart water
They need mountain dew as a sponsor haha
@@arthor8134 needs to happen
Mahomes is already cemented himself as the greatest chief ever. Now he’s working on greatest of all time. Don’t play with 15. Nothing beats raw talent+ a work ethic
No cap
0:14 that boy Skip stupidddd 😭😭😭✨ get ya $ Uncle Shay!
Shannon: "Can't get no advertisement off me"
Skip: "Yeah they don't pay you a nickel, everyone else does"
Right😂😂😂😂😂
Facts
🤣
Skips still a little emotional about Brady and the Bucs getting ko’d last week.
💀💀💀💀
Lowkey I think Skip hates Mahomes more than Rodgers
He knows Rodgers only has another 3-4 years max so he is basically finding his next target.
He's treating him like Lebron, Gives him marginal credit like his arm, escaping the pocket and extending plays, etc.
Cause he’s a threat to his boyfriend Tom Brady lmao
100%. He knows rodgers for the most part is pretty much down. Just way to many playoff failures for him to be a threat to Brady. But mahomes has broken so many records and has surpassed so many all time greats already, skip is hearing footsteps coming for Brady’s status. He knows it’s only a matter of time before mahomes passes him. So he has to hurry and try and find and way to knock him. None of it has worked
OMG, HI THERE SUB, IM SO GLAD YPU SAID THAT, BC I FEEL RODGERS HATE MAHOMES TOO. THAT IS WHY SKIP LIKE AARON R.
Tired of people even mentioning Allen Herbert and burrow with mahomes until they win a Super Bowl they aren’t even in the same category. Mahomes over these past 4 years has been extraordinary
Who's Allen Herbert
@@jamesmoore2100 Josh Allen’s and Justin Herbert’s love child
@@joseindacut5653 😂😂😂😭
"There are none so blind as those who will not see." Pretty sure this applies to Skip when he talks about Mahomes.
Just shows these commentators know less than fans
Mahomes choked away that game.
Skip was right as usual
@Banquet Meal Which game? Because the Bengals D did that to him TWICE in the same month. Once at PBS and the other at Arrowhead. Joe Burrow is a MONSTER, kiddo.
Dude, Mahomes walked into a perfect situation. Burrow is playing on Cincinnati. Give him credit for that.
It’s not like they have a bad roster though. Their defense is highly underrated and they have one of the best receiving corps in the league, the only glaring weakness is the OL. Mahomes walked into a better situation but Burrow is by no means carrying a bad team to the playoffs on his own.
@Sith Lord
They were not ready to go all the way, until he got there. Nobody said Alex Smith was taking them to the SB.
Skip know damn well if Mahomes wore a Cowboys jersey, he’d be singing a different tune.
Man what 😭 he’d be his biggest fan
👍👍💯💯
he’d be crowning him the new goat
Mahomes at 23 was dominating the NFL and got an MVP. Burrow at 23 was dominating college and got a Heisman trophy. I don’t know what Skip is on.
Skip must be smoking wit lil Wayne lately
Exactly he trippin
He’s chosen his new person to hate on for the next decade
With Tyreek Hill and Travis Kelce. Joe Burrow clearly better
That's just skip being skip
Skips never gonna learn man. He truly is scared that mahomes is a serious threat to bradys legacy.
I only say no cause I just can't imagine mahomes playing as long
Mahomes may be the greatest of THIS generation, but it’s hard to see him passing or even tying Brady at 7 championships. He’s even 0-2 against Brady in the playoffs. Last super bowl had a big impact on the GOAT debate.
@@NYGForever I agree about the 7 championships, that's just impossible. Mahomes would have to win atleast 4 and rack up crazy numbers/accolades to surpass brady because brady is so decorated.
@@NYGForever he’s 26, he’s not on some short running clock. 1 game isn’t going to be defining for him. He could go on to win 5 straight who knows. Super Bowls aren’t the only metric in comparing QBs either
@@mynoseisdirty1250
His potential is through the rough, I agree. Right now he looks unstoppable. We just gotta see how it all plays out
Mahomes was drafted to a ready made team. Already a playoff team and Super Bowl contender. Burrow was drafted to a team that had not won a playoff game in almost 30 years when he was drafted. Burrow has take the Bengals from 2 wins, to the AFC championship game with the worst Oline in football.
I’ve been saying this and alex smith had the chiefs balling but andy reid couldn’t stop stepping on his own feet during those years
*over 30 years😬
@@Mikel_2796
Alex Smith went to how many SBs?
How many AFC Championships did they go to before Mahomes???
The Chiefs WERE NOT SB contenders before Mahomes came.
They never made it to the AFC Championship game before Mahomes, let alone the SB. What are you talking about?
And they were not the worst o-line in football. Burrow holds the ball too long, because he's trying to go deep with Chase.
@@stoplyingabout They were still a better team than the bengals,
And yeah some of them were burrows fault and burrow would usually have to scramble out of the pocket to and make plays and usually he would have two and half second to throw the ball but most of them were because of the Oline.
I was watching Joe Burrow body language after all them sacks. Popped up and handed off to the ref like nothing happened or nothing was at stake. Super cool.
Unc said it: mahomes knew he couldn’t turn it over vs buffalo so he didn’t… they play to the level of their opponents most of the time that’s why most of their games are close even tho they shouldn’t be
No, that's where the Owner has instructed the coaching staff to coach to lose because he has 10 million against his own team and is playing the point spread! And if the coaching staff refuses to do so, they will be ran out of town like Jimmie Johnson got ran out of Dallas in 1993 because he refused to lose the game against the Buffalo Bills!
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@@larryjonnson8093 lol
patrick maholmes has been to the afc championship every year he has started... enough said
Went to a team that had been to the playoffs the past two years and has Kelce and Hill…enough said
Stacked team every year he started
@@MrGenexxx where did Alex smith take that team?🧐
@@blindpew412 And had zero playoff victories lmao. You're proving his point.
Replacing Smith with Mahomes turned them into a potential dynasty.
@@TheCapn23 not really. 2015 Chiefs lost to Tom Brady, did Mahomes ever change that?
Skip always hating and rarely crediting Mahomes accomplishments. Definition of a true hater smh.
he's so bitter that Mahomes has a chance to eclipse Brady when it's all set and done so he tries to crown other young QB's with less accomplishments than him
i agree but everyone gotta chill on mahomes, he only has 1 super bowl like chill
@@chiefhead7 ain’t nobody catching Brady my guy
Because he lost to his God tom brady.
@UCiZde8mGdsHftjiOfJ7EeJQ how is he in a perfect situation? The defense always give up a lot of points and his offensive line is average at best. Brady is the one that's always been in the perfect situation
Mahomes in 4 years
Averages 37 td’s 9 int’s per year
Highest Qb rating ever
Highest ypg ever
2nd highest td/int ratio
4 afc championship games
Running away with greatness so far like Brady in the beginning of his career
@@asanitationstompout84732 scenarios with Mahomes.
1. He wins multiple Sb’s early in his career then goes on a drought after Hill, Reid and Kelce leaves
2. He maintains this level of greatness like Brady where he makes it to the Conference championship every year.
@@tmot6714 And both are horrible for him. Mahomes is a LOSE LOSE Situation for the rest of his career.
The 1st scenario may be, but he making it to the conference championship game every year increase his chances of winning Sb’s .
@@tmot6714 tyreek is 27! Kelce is 32 but his position he can play til 35/36, plus mahomes is 26 so he still has a minimum 12 years of what you see!!! Rodgers is 38 and mvp!
The Bengals built that offense beautifully. Really put those picks to work. Burrow, Chase, Mixon, Higgins, Boyd all drafted and huge contributors. My ravens need to take notes. We only have the QB
Skip undermines his own credibility as an analyst with takes like this... just disagreeing for the sake of disagreeing.
They're all just talking heads. They're told what to say by the producers. Gotta have those ratings after all.
Agreeing with each other would defeat the whole purpose of a "debate" show....
It's pro wrestling bro, just watch for the laughs.
But burrow ain't on mahomes lvl though
He's not an analyst. He's an entertainer. Says whatever is provoking or takes the contrarian role for entertainment. He could not care less if you hate him, because haters are gonna watch and click the same just to scream at him lol
Lmao Skip just be talking bulljive 😂
I love Joe Burrow, but say he's on the same level as Mahomes is beyond disrespectful.
Burrow has to win a super bowl first this conversation is absurd
Agreed.
Real talk but those bengals gone be be a problem in the future if they keep that core together 🤔👊🏽
Mahomes skillset is unique and diverse which Burrow can't match.
Mahomes has an all time great coach...a generational TE and one of the fastest WRs ever...Let him have The Jags roster and see how good he be
Been loving what I’ve been seeing from Burrow. Mahomes really is a perfect storm though in terms of where and how he landed and his talent.
Yeah he walked on to a team with Kelce & Tyreek & Andy Reid. Like when Drew Brees went to NOLA with Sean Payton & Reggie Bush. Cinci is a good situation for Burrow but that KC offense is another level, and Zach Taylor has made some bad noticeable mistakes. I don't think he's the Bengals HC long term.
We have yet to see what Mahomes looks like on an average or below average team. Under Mahomes the Chiefs have had one of if not the best roster in football. When Hill and Kelce age out or get injured we will see what Mahomes is. As for Burrow... We know what he is now guiding that roster he has past Mahomes and to the SB. It's not a stretch to say Burrow will be better all said and done but it isn't a lock either. Just have to see what Mahomes does with a less than all-star cast on offense around him.
We've also seen Burrow make several dangerous passes in these last 2 games and get picked off twice. He has been far from perfect. The hype is already out of control. Burrow will need to improve a lot to be one of the greats. Maybe it will happen and maybe it won't.
@@stickman1742 speaking facts. people are nuts. do people not see how good Chase, Higgins and Boyd are? and they have a very nice tightend. dude won 2 games in which he was less than 10% chance to win. titans blew that game at midfield tied with the ball and chiefs were up 21-3, and also had them week 17, like 27-13. mahomes did choke though, Andy was out coached. you can't tell me no one was open the whole second half. weird game. thankfully, I hedged, but not fully
We have yet to see what burrow is like without Higgins, Chase, Boyd, mixon! Didn't he have chase in college? How could u discredit mahomes for having weopons but then praise burrow when he has MORE weopons?🤦
What ALL-stars on offfense?
Burrow has better receivers than the Chiefs and a better running back than the Chiefs, this is crazy.
Burrow was drafted first overall, had to start as a rookie, blew his ACL, and now he’s playing in the AFC championship game after being sacked 51 times absolutely absurd
Cincinnati needs to go looking for O-LINE HELP in April
Mahomes also walked into the NFL with the greatest offensive arsenal in the league. Can’t wait to see Mahomes without Hill and Kielce.
@@PUR3FIR yk joe burrow has the best receiving core in football right?
@@PUR3FIR Yeah bc Burrow doesn’t have any weapons 😂😂
Gets used to it buddy. Hill and kelce ain’t going nowhere anytime soon😂
Whenever Skip starts the "mmmm" I know he's about say the "hall of famer sitting across from me."
Skip just be talking at this point. We know Burrow is that guy but Mahomes has done alot more than most QBs and he’s only a year older than burrow.
It’s a bad comparison Joe played one full season and they comparing him to mahomes. But could mahomes do what Joe did and that make the afc championship game with the bengals
@@terquanrush9414 Yes. He carried the 31st ranked defense to the AFC title in his first season starting. A game they lost because Dee ford lined up offsides.
Ya think that's easy when your defense allows 30 points a game?
@@whitewhale9012 The bengals def have a worse roster than the chiefs did in that year, but I still get your point.
@@whitewhale9012 you realize he was blessed with kelce and hill right
@@terquanrush9414 tru jamarr chase and joe mixon are bums
This should be titled "Skip Gives Joe Burrow The Kiss Of Death."
😂😂😂😂 exactly!
Two things. Skip, thank you for doubting Mahomes since his first snap in NFL. You come up with every excuse in the world to let off Baker, Dak, and whoever else you show bias towards. If Baker or Dak had the hardware (SB ring, MVP, SB MVP, four conference championships in their first four years) you would be thinking they were the next GOAT. I guess there is something about Mahomes you don't like. Please never ever jump on the Mahomes band wagon. Not welcome.
Second, anyone who thinks year after year that the Cowboys can do something special makes me question their judgement on many levels. There were many Chief seasons where I knew it wasn't their year. Even when they were going to the playoffs. As long as they have Jerry Jones they will never win. As long as they have DAK they will never win. The more you think the Cowboys can do something special the more "washed" you look.
Skip has to say anything to discredit Mahomes legacy 🙄
It’s like he’s just picks whoever the best player is in a sport and discredits them
@@TheSmoothToad he knows Mahomes is the biggest threat to Bradys legacy. He’s said similar things about Josh Allen compared to Mahomes when none of these other young qb’s have anywhere near the resume that Mahomes has
@@ekiacountry6416 he was proven right tho. Allen went play for play with mahomes, but didn't get the ball back in OT
just like Shannon does with Brady but yall dont care
@@samuelk34 cap
i didn’t hear one argument for burrow ahead of mahomes lmao. Skip just said a lot of things about Burrow but absolutely no reason why he’s better than Mahomes 😂
He brought up PFF but PFF feels flaud asf sometimes
Facts
Bengals beat the titans because of Ryan Tannehill. 140 rushing yards between 2 RB's. 9 sacks by the defense and no pass TD's.
burrow threw for 348 yards and only missed 9 passes of 37 passes, with a bottom tier offensive line vs the titans
Tannehill single handedly choked that game away for the Titans
Titans were only in the game because the Bengals O-Line stinks. Bengals led in score the entire game and the titans got away with a controversial fluke interception.
Tannehill didn’t play the best Cowboys fan just for the record but at the end of the day he was leading them on a game-winning drive or tying drive I forget but he hit the receiver in the hands and he popped it up for an interception Shannon said it was Tannehill‘s fault because he should’ve thrown it lower but I don’t know if this is the NFL ball hits you in the hands you gotta catch it,
Bengals beat the Titans because of Mike Vrabel’s decision to go for 2 instead of kicking the extra point in the first half.Tannehill didn’t play good but if they had kicked the extra point the Titans would have been winning by one point and there would’ve been no need for Taneyhill to Be throwing the ball at the end of the game
This aged so well.
Mahomes cost his team the game and Burrow won it.
"Long term"
Okay wow... He won 1 game... This is long term and Mahomes is off to the best start in the history of the NFL.... Joe Burrow is just a average NFL...
Mahomes so far is 1 up. Burrow doesn’t have a ring just yet.
This did not aged well yet
@@michaelnichols9850 0-2 fool.
Seeing Borrow win after 9 sacks was amazing, I just hope the Bengals don’t expect that to be his super power and get that boy some protection please. Protect your franchise.
Yep. The Bengals need to not treat Burrow the way the Texans treated David Carr
Burrow didn’t win. Tannehill lost
It was the most sacks of the season. Chances are they will give up 3-6 sacks.
@@carsonwentz8301 Exactly, 3-6 minimum that’s crazy. No way they can stop an Aaron Donald type player with that line
@@LiquidChamploo I think the Rams would be a tough opponent for the Bengals. But the Bengals match up well with the Chiefs
lmfao shannon a fool!!! “you ain’t getting no free advertisement from me” i just pressed play man chillll
I ain’t even see what it was lol
@@kma997 i think it was Smart Water lol
listen I am a chiefs fan and I along with everyone else love Joe burrow and I'm not gonna dispute that he maybe, could possibly be on Mahomes tier in the future, but I mean what more does Patty have to do man. I'm not saying he'll always be the best in the league but with his resume up to now he should unanimously be seen as the best in the league now and for the future until proven otherwise
Except Brady until he retires
I think mahomes has been the best these past few year. But out of curiosity, how much do you think having tyreek and kelce help him look that way?
When media members hear that he's the next brady or will surpass brady, they have to see it. Media members and Brady Fans find a huge disrespect when a person who has done a lot in a short span be in t he conversation when Tom has done it for over 20 years.They have huge respect for Brady and I do to, HE'S THE G.O.A.T. But, I'm also a realist and know that it's impossible for a QB to win a superbowl every year.
@@gilv302 yeah wonder out of curiosity havin Boyd, Chase, Higgins and Mixon make Burrow look the way he does?
@@gilv302 It’s like if Brady had Moss and Gronk, imagine his stats
Shannon Sharpe is the best thing on TV 🤣🤣🤣
Joe Burrow has played 9 “must win games” during his college & pro career
2019 LSU
- Bama, UGA (SEC Title), Oklahoma (Semi Final), Clemson (Natty)
2021 Bengals
- Ravens (Week 16), Chiefs (Week 17). Raiders (Wild Card), Titan (Divisional), Chiefs (AFC Championship)
9 - 0 W - L
3,614 Passing Yds. (401/game)
31 TD
2 Int.
And counting!
I love when Skip stays true to being skip at this point if he gives Patrick Mahomes credit it wouldn’t even feel genuine and I wouldn’t like it!
Burrow had more interceptions than “broke” Mahomes……give me a break….joe is good but he aint that
One good year and you being compared to the top class of QB in the league...
Alright we’ll see this weekend
@Christopher Smith Burrow for 2. he got injured his rookie season
@Christopher Smith if thats the case and he doesn’t have longevity….stop the comparison
I love Burrow, maybe my second favorite QB in the league, but Skip seems to forget Mahomes has been to 2 SBs, SB MVP, Historical season that ended in a MVP. Damn Skip!
One Super Bowl.
@@FlipwithThomas he's been to 2. Can you read?
@@TDR-0484 second super bowl doesn’t really count when he got absolutely hornswoggled
@@gawd6261 Doesn’t change the fact that he went to two of them?
@Christopher Smith due to his defence and kicker you casual he hit his stride in around the late 2000s
Were it not for Dee Ford's infamous offside penalty, Maholmes would likely have two Superbowl rings - Skip's out his mind. Burrow is good, but simply not Maholmes good, and likely never will be.
When did that happen?
@@lance.da.legend9837 2018 afc championship
The bs roughing the passer cal on Chris jones too. And imagine if mahomes had a solid defense
@@KJ-pn3ev that’s something people don’t consider when comparing Mahomes and Brady. Mahomes has never had a great defense while Brady has had them for most of his career
@@ekiacountry6416 thank you
This is one of the only topics I can 100% get behind Skip on. This kid is special.
Who’s here after the game ? Oh baby I can’t wait till Monday
Burrow had an awesome year, but cant compare him to Mahomes yet. Come on now Skip, give Burrow a couple more years, and if he continues to play well, then maybe you have an argument.
He’s better now
@@dominicktoran3327 Not at all.
This is like saying…in NBA terms “Luka Doncic will be more special than Giannis Antetokounmpo” 😂. One guy is trying to accomplish what the other did, both in 20s too.
It's worse cause Luka 22 and Giannis 27. Patrick is 26 and Joe is 25.... 1 year bro. How you going say he be more special when he haven't done half of what Patrick done. Even talent wise I don't see him being more talented, he can definitely be close. Luka have time, even if he don't do all what Giannis done he be much closer than Joe.
Nah at least Luka has accomplished enough individually as a youngster to merit some projection (he’s got a long way to reach Giannis level tho). This is literally Burrows only major accomplishment, and it’s a team accolade not individual.
Luca is gonna leave Giannis in smoke when it’s said and done. Luca is 10X more talented, when experience catches up with him he’s gonna be xtra special
@@tyslims2805 stick to football lol Luka has 2 MVPs, FMVP and a DPOY to catch up on, and we know he’s never touching DPOY. The Mavs don’t look to be giving him any help on the championship front, so he’s gonna need more MVP’s.
And Giannis is a top 3 MVP candidate 😂
@@scarfaceaceo You better keep that same energy once luka leaves the mavs, joins a contender and get truly appreciated. Stop hating and accept the fact that luka has a better ceiling and more potential that giannis who needed every superstar in the league injured to win a championship
Those two are the gold standard. The 2020s will be an exciting time for football! These young qbs are following in the footsteps of Brady, Brees, Manning, Rodgers, etc. and they're doing it spectactularly. It's like the early 2000s all over again.
But, difference is you can't touch QBs no more.
big overrated Ben is there right ?
Burrow isn’t better than Allen or Herbert. No gold standard yet. Give the Bills the Titans and we get last week’s game this weekend
@@scarfaceaceo Titans did technically beat the bills this year though lol
@@Kennedy1op yea but that was a great, could go either way Game and Henry was 100% for almost 150 yd and 3TDs. This hobbled Henry they kept wasting downs on, mixed with the real Tannehill showing up woulda gotten them blown outtta Nashville last wkend lol
A new golden era of QBs is upon us
man, the "aint gettin no advertisement off me" bar a the beginning was everything lmaooo
I love Joey b, but mahomes really is the best in the league and it's not close
Preach!
It’s close because of Josh Allen don’t be disrespectful just because he lost.
Skip has found Brady’s replacement in joe burrow 😂😂
Nah.. Last week it was Allen, a few weeks before that it was Herbert.. He loves whomever is playing opposite Mahomes.
From the few games I’ve seen Mahommes, Allen, Herbert and Burrow are the new Brady, Manning, Brees, Rodgers
No they are the current Mahomes , Allen , Herbert and Burrow
Burrow shouldn’t be ahead of Lamar
@@marquisfinney3589 agreed. Lamar is on the same level as Allen. Herbert and Burrow are up and coming.
@@ayaslayer Its just biased because of this season and Lamar was out. Half of them haven't even won an MVP yet but I guess it's gonna take Lamar Two to get recognition 😂
And they’re all in the afc that’s what’s crazy
7:48 Shannon snapping made me laugh 😂.....His BEST GAME??? Lol
"Ain't gonna get no advertising off me" 😂
Shannon was way off lol 😂
Not at all lmao 😂
This aged very well
Burrow looked great in the SB....
@@stoplyingabout and lost
Not anymore lol
😂😂😂😂😂😂
This comment aged like milk 🤣
They are both incredible QBs and will both be at the top of the league for years. I'm sure they will beat each other throughout their careers based on their surrounding teams. Mahomes, Burrow, Allen, Herbert. Whoo boy. AFC is gonna be loaded with top tier offenses for years.
why everyone forget about LJ lol
@@okungbowaswag he’s the fifth out of the bunch now.
@@okungbowaswag I believe is he a good qb but not in the same tier as the others. Just my opinion.
@@okungbowaswag cause he just isn't as good as them, everyone he listed is elite, Lamar is not. he's good just not elite
Cheifs fan here. Love Burrow and I'm excited for this game and his future, but stop it. Mahomes is the reason we have these crazy expectations for QBs now.
I cannot WAIT for all the segments tomorrow. Y'all better stop sleeping on JOE BRRR
Cry now😂😂😂
Burrow is already a legend! 🔥 Only quarterback to win a natty, the Heisman, first draft pick, number one passer and a super bowl appearance in 3 year period.
I did NOT realize Burrow's only a year younger than Mahomes. I didn't think Burrow would be good, now I think he's going to be an all time great. The kid just does not feel fear. He won't be as flashy as Mahomes, of course. We are in for some great games with these young bucks: Mahomes, Burrow, Herbert, Allen, Jones - I feel like I'm forgetting someone.
Yeah and he hasn’t accomplished nearly anything close to Mahomes. They’re off to a 1-3 start this year. Mahomes sits as the top QB talent of all time.
Skip: "Joe Burrow isn't as athletic as Patrick Mahomes or Josh Allen"
Tom Brady not athletic at all but is the greatest so that don’t mean nothing.
Unc be about his money! " They ain't get no advertisement off me"....LOL
Can't wait to see the response to the game on Monday!!
Lol me too
Facts unc, Mahomes is in class by himself, I am glad he's our quarterback
I wouldn’t say class by himself because Josh Allen is right there he can do everything Mahomes can do just don’t have a ring other then that I don’t see a big difference.
@@marceld8961 ring or mvp and Josh needs to do it s few more times, this is Mahomes 4 season doing it at this high level so let's revisit this in a couple of seasons
@@ChrisThaRebel it’s Josh 3rd Mahomes only 1 year later lol.
@@ChrisThaRebel Like Brady is in a class by himself.
@@marceld8961 of course Brady is the 🐐 never said he wasn't
Let's be happy that we will have some exciting QBs for the next 10-15 years
about time they start talking about my Bengals
Nobody is going to talk about the free advertising 🤣🤣🤣 this man is hilarious 😂
Aint get no advertising off me, no money off me🤣☠️ unc kills me every time
He hates on mahomes for the same reason he hates on bron, he knows he can surpass brady
No he can’t🤣
@@kingnovi9404 if he plays 15 more years ?
@@Stev4e897 Maybe. But how about we just appreciate the person who actually did it and understand that it’s an enormous accomplishment and stop crowning guys after 4 years
I'm here 3 days later and Burrows going to the Super bowl and Mahome boy is watching it again. Lol
😂😂😂 funny how the tables turns right?
And now youre crying😂😂😂
@@lucddr3am3r83funny how the tables turn right?💍💍💍😂
This question is disrespectful to Patrick Mahomes!
Just shouldn't even have a segment what are we talking about
I wanna see what Mahomes can do without Tyreek and Kelce for an extended period of time
Alex Smith put up career numbers with the weapons Mahomes has, and the Redskins front office were dumb enough to think Alex Smith was having a late career resurgence
"Mahome Boy" collapsed yesterday, Shannon, while Burrow had ice in his veins and took Cincy to the Super Bowl!
Mahomes/Brady 1st 5 years
Yds-
Mahomes- 18,991
Brady- 13,921
TDs
Mahomes-151
Brady- 97
Int.
Mahomes- 32
Brady- 52
Super Bowl Appearances
Mahomes- 2 (3 if defeats Bengals)
Brady- 2
Rings
Mahones- 1 (2 if wins this years Super Bowl)
Brady- 2
skip knows this but would never say it on his show.
And yet brady had more touchdowns at 44 than mahomes did at 26
@@Jp-do9ny yet brady needed the tuck rule, cheating, a panther kicker, seahawks 1 yard playcalling blunder, saints getting the shaft by the refs, and falcons choking hardcore just to win 5 rings. Go figure.
bro skip really be hating on the most physically talented players😭look at the people he likes: Brady and Baker, then the people he hate, Mahomes, Allen to a degree, Rodgers, Stafford etc😭😭😭
@Goose he don’t even be loving Dak like that😭he jus tolerate him cuz he a cowboy
Burrow the real deal 💪🍻
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂eat that MR SHARP!
Skip still holds this take to this day. Let that sink in.
Skip wit the W here
Nope
Ya think so😂
Mahomes is incredible. He's a future hall of famer. However, before he was drafted by the Chiefs, the Chiefs had made 3 straight playoff appearances with some wins. When Joe Burrow came to Cincinnati, they were coming off of 2 of the worst seasons in NFL history. Burrow also had his knee shredded in his first year after being drafted during the COVID madness and not being able to spend a lot of time in training camp before his first season. In his second year he took a team predicted to come in last in their division to the AFC Championship game all the while leading the league in sacks taken and completion percentage.
Again, not taking anything away from Mahomes, but you have to recognize the odds that Burrow has overcome.
Is called Parity. You keep picking in the top 5 you usually get good. Never mind the Lions and Jaguars jajaja 🤣
True but there’s a reason we’re not seeing Alex smith still in Kansas City cause not even he could do this
But they literally have a top 10 running back, top 5 wide receiver, another receiver in the top 15, and a solid Tight end and a average defense. Mahomes had something similar to this until ol boy got in trouble but that defense as the bottom of the league he had to carry to the playoffs
Skip: “I love all these things about this guy that hasn’t done nearly as much as Mahomes… I don’t like Mahomes, so I won’t talk about how much better he is so far.”
I love that he brings up the sacks as a pro for burrow when everyone knows about half are burrow refusing to throw it away when the play is busted
no one is gonna be as good as Tom Brady but that kid Burrow might be in the conversation
And now Burrow is the one going to the super bowl
And now mahomes has 3 rings and burrow hasnt even made an all pro team😂😂😂
I'm kinda with skip, Mahomes is generational but with all the accolades in his first 4 years there's no reason he should have a complete meltdown in the 2nd half of a Championship Game at Home when he was up 18, that's Aaron Rodgers territory. Joe Borrow was ice in his first playoff appearance in his 2nd year on a team that hasn't been in that spot in decades. I can't write him off, dude plays with stones, he's hardly ever rattled & imo i think he could turn out to be more special
Mahomes was set up for success from the start. Look at his team. It was only a matter of whether or not he would perform, which he has. The Chiefs success so far proves it. However, this should have been expected, so there’s nothing surprising. What Joe Burrow and the Bengals have done at least this year is special. I don’t like making takes like the one Skip made because football is too reliant on the overall team more so than the individual. At least that’s what I believe in. Sure the QB can make a big difference, but you don’t need an amazing QB. You just need a good to great one when your team is already exceptional.
Chiefs had a decent team but no playoff wins. Switch out Smith for Mahomes and we're talking potential dynasty.
for the chiefs to win that game last sunday against the bills, you need an amazing quarterback
Let's hear what marble mouth Shannon has to say tmrw on Undisputed.