@VincentDaly-cp6yqJesus picked 12 men to be His priest's, and given the role they play as those that stand in the Person of Christ while giving the Sacraments to people, they must be men. Christianity will never have a priestess😂
Indeed, I think it's great that the church keeps this ban in place: I'd be sorry to see women wasting their time keeping this outmoded nonsense afloat.
It’s not a matter of excluding women, it is simply a different role that needs to be assigned to a male. Heck the queen of heaven and mother of the whole church is Mary!
None of that will you find in the Bible. Mary isn't the mother of the Church nor is she the queen of heaven. If anything is the queen of heaven it is the church which is the bride of Christ.
Read Revelation 12. The woman crowned with 12 stars is the mother of a male child "who will rule all the nations with the rod of iron". This is clearly and obviously the Messiah, so the woman is Mary *as a representative* of Israel @@thundershadow
@@thundershadowwoman behold your son, son behold your mother. Christ gave mother Mary to us. Who raised and reared Christ? Mary did. She does the same for us to lead us to Christ.
@@donrobbins4970 “A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent” (1 Timothy 2:11-12). In the context of this verse, this letter is being written to address Church organization. It is not a ban on women in all teaching roles, in is a prohibition on women fulfilling the office of priest, who is meant to minister to the flock and administer the sacraments.
I see she had her miraculous medal and crucifix prominently displayed during the interviews. Was she trying to impress Francis? Does she display them when she reads the nightly news?
its just for show. i bet she feels so obligated and burdened to show up to Mass on Christmas and Easter and feels entitled the the Eucharist despite not being in a state of grace (and potentially even sleeping around with various men).
It’s about time Pope Francis told it like it is. The Catholic Church is open to all. Women have a place in our faith. Just not as priests or deacons. You don’t like it? Go be a Protestant. See how that works out for you.
@@katholischetheologiegeschi1319 listen to the rest of his response to the question. he clarifies no deaconesses with "holy orders". mark my words, he will inflict the church with quasi-ordained deaconesses as part of his broader attack through modernism, which is the synthesis of all heresy.
@@grizzly_8917 And why is that? I always felt alien to the Orthodox Church although it was my culture. I tried integrating into many parishes but it was always weird and the air per person ratio was making me sick due to youth breathing problems. When I went to the only Roman Catholic Church in my city, I instantly felt a sort of happiness in the people to be there, it was actually a community, a rather active one. Also don't get me started on the huge divide in the Orthodox Church: patriarch Kyril za rolex, an important romanian priest (can't recall his name) affirming that sexual assault victims need to be punished because of their "beauty" and/or "cuteness" etc.. This alone doesn't deboonk the orthodox church, but with the mystical and contemplative aspects of the Rosary was it for me. Next week I will become a Catechumen in the one Holy, Apostolic and Catholic Church, blessed by the Lord I am, indeed. God bless you all! emirobinatoru
Also sorry for my incoherent text, my English skills aren't the best. I am trying my hardest to improve my writing and Zamyatin's We and his essays are a reference point for me.
You did well, i was almost orthodox because of Francis, but after hearing about the catholic exclusive fathers like augustine and Thomas, i feel in love with schoolastica, and after reading some councils and holy scripture as well as Dogmas i could not be orthodox, after a while i grew to love Francis, differently than the Orthodox church, Catholics denounced and were crystal clear about clergical abuse, after sawing the orthodox hide it, and because they are galvanised and country type churches, i saw a sparkle of righetousness in the catholic church.
“Antipope Francis approves deaconesses. This is because he is a manifest heretic of the Vatican II sect. The Vatican II sect has apostasized and is unable to have valid sacraments, as every priest ordained in it is a heretic. We recommend praying 15 decades of the rosary and staying home on Sunday. Avoid all forms of the quote Ordinary Form of the Mass.”
@@StanleyPinchakstop coping. I know you want to shit on the Holy Father and all, but all you'll end up doing is looking just as goofy like all the "trads" who claimed that he blessed same sex unions and the rest of the slander against the man. And even if he did say that in the interview, is every word magisterial? St Catherine said that EVEN IF SATAN HIMSELF were pope, we should obey him because the Holy Spirit would not allow heresy. Have faith.
@@chase6579 RUclips needs a reminder bot. Nobody ever gets held accountable for their ridiculous takes. Our Lady of LA Salatte. Church in eclipse and Bergoglio is casting some seriously large shadows.
LOL I was expecting to translate a long explanation from spanish in my head. This is how all bishops/priests should reply. Francis was a nighclub bouncer so he knows how to speak.
Pope Francis had a committee study this. That mustve been the answer. But for me, it comes down to the Presence of Christ. When a Deacon is ordained, they minister in Christs Presence. How could a female minister in Christs Presence, who is male? Its not possible.
As a woman I dont want that power and that responsibility. Leave us alone, women ! You are talking all the time about mental charge but you do charge yourself more and more just to feel more powerful than men.
Why bring up a LITTLE girl? Why not a grandma? It's weird, almost like she was trying to make someone feel guilty about their religious beliefs or something.
If I wanted an answer to a biblical question, the pope would be one of the last people I would ask. He recently said that all men are basically good, which is the exact opposite of what the Bible says. This is been a pattern with him.
The dogma of "All men are inherently good" is part of the Church. The pope didn't say it because he's going heretic on that topic. You can look it up. It's "CATECHISM OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH, number 385." In other words, all men are "CREATED" to be and do "good", but they can choose to do evil because of sin. However, there is no such thing as "created inherently evil" to be pre-doomed to hell just for the sake of existing without any hope. I hope that makes sense now.
I think it's high time we recognised why the Lord our God did not permit women to serve as cohen or priests within the new covenant. To some of us, it is very clear.
That was a stupid question. A woman can't be a deacon for the same reason a man can't be a mother. But a woman could become a deaconess. After all, the Roman Catholic Church already recognises the orders of deaconesses in the Orthodox Churches.
As a Catholic, I love the answer. As a guy who studies organizational leadership, this helps explain why the Papacy is doing so poorly and the Church at large is in turmoil.
Deaconesses are referred to in Scripture, but they were NOT like the ordained deaconate of the men. I don't know when this stopped being a thing. Perhaps it was supplanted by consecrated nuns? Would be interesting to research.🙏🌹
it's one thing if protestants or EO don't read Vatican website and think the Pope is some liberal, but it's absolutely shameful for Catholics to be fooled about their own Pope by what they read from random media online and not even bother reading the documents or anything on the Vatican website
@@chrisfitzmaurice7484 you mean like our lady of the Amazon ? Pachamama was never at the Vatican, now do I believe that the whole prayer service in the Vatican gardens was a good thing to do probably not because it led to people like you who think it was pagan worship when it wasn’t
I was glad to hear this answer. However, he has been known to change his mind. Secondly, it is rumored he is considering allowing women to carry out all the liturgical functions of a male deacon without actually ordaining them. There will be a new liturgical rite celebrated by a bishop appointing them to this new “ministry” and giving them a “blessing.” In order words, an “ ordination” without the laying on of hands, and the prayer of consecration.
@@StanleyPinchak I can assure you, my friend, I will not like them. Nor will I participate in any sacrilegious Mass at which they attempt to function as “deacons.” If I wanted female priests and deacons, I would join the Anglican or Episcopalian sects!
Proof your religion is fiction: In Reference to Deuteronomy 32:8-9 "I should add here that it is very clear from the grammar that the noun nachalah in v. 9 should be translated “inheritance.” Yahweh receives Israel as his “inheritance” (nachalah), just as the other sons of El received their nations as their inheritance (nachal, v. 8). With this verb, especially in the Hiphil, the object is always what is being given as an inheritance. Thus, Israel is given to Yahweh as his inheritance.6 It would make no sense for Elyon to give himself an inheritance. Moreover, as I’ve argued elsewhere, it is not just the Gentile nations that are divided up according to the number of the sons of El. It is all of humankind, i.e., “the sons of Adam.” This clearly includes Israel. And the sons of Adam are not divided up according to the number of the sons of El, plus one (i.e., plus Elyon). They are divided up, according to the text, solely according to the number of the sons of El. Thus, that Yahweh receives Israel as his inheritance makes Yahweh one of the sons of El mentioned in v. 8. Any other construal of the text would constitute its rewriting." ------------------------------------------------------------------ The Canaanite pantheon was conceived as a divine clan, headed by the supreme god El; the gods collectively made up the Elohim. Through the centuries, the pantheon of Canaanite gods evolved, so that El and Asherah were more important in earlier times, while Baal and his consorts came to fore in later years. Asherah - early semitic Mother goddess, "Lady of the sea," consort of El, also called Athirat, the mother of 70 gods El - the chief deity, god of the sky, father of many lesser gods and ruler of the divine assembly, also worshiped by the Israelites El Elyon -Special title of El as "God most High" The Book of Genesis itself describes the patriarch Abraham as a worshiper of El-also called El Shaddai and El Elyon -- building altars, offering sacrifices, and paying tithes to him. ------------------------------------------------------------------ Deuteronomy 32:8 When Elyon (El) gave to the nations their allotted inheritances, when he divided the sons of Adam, he established the boundaries of the peoples according to the number of the sons of El (El and Asherah had 70 sons and in line with the Table of Nations in Genesis 10 (70 nations) each son (Elohim) received a particular territory or people like the Canaanite god Chemosh in Numbers 21:29) Yahweh’s portion was his people, Jacob, the lot of his allotted inheritance (Yahweh was given Israel by his father, the chief Canaanite god El). Psalm 82 ’Elohim (Yahweh) stands in the council of ’El (chief Canaanite god) In the midst of the gods (Elohim) he holds judgment. “How long will you judge unjustly, and show partiality to the wicked? Selah Render justice to the weak and the fatherless; vindicate the afflicted and the destitute. Rescue the weak and the needy; deliver them from the hand of the wicked.” They have neither knowledge nor understanding; they walk around in darkness; all the foundations of the earth are shaken. I said, “You are gods (Elohim), sons of Elyon (El), all of you; nevertheless, you shall die like mortals, and fall like any prince.” Rise up, O ’Elohim (Yahweh), judge the earth; for you shall inherit the nations! Google "The Most Heiser: Yahweh and Elyon in Psalm 82 and Deuteronomy 32 - Religion at the Margins" based on the majority scholarly consensus.
@@classicalteacher me too, but that mass is impossible to people today, i fugired a better system would be to have traditional mass every sunday, and than a ad populum mass, a mass for begginer catholics, and one for veteran catholics, the sunday mass is always tridentine, or similar to it, idk if in tridentine the priest teaches life lessons or not but its good that it is done, the ad populim mass would be usually in sunday, it can be changed to a tridentine mass if the priest wants, but we need a "begginer mass" because of how hard it is to be born traditional, after that is stablished we should limit the types of music in thr ad populum mass that way, we are always cathecizing and promoting evolution on the worship, gradually training people to all come and understand the tridentine mass, which happens on sunday, we must remeber too, we need to convert people, and end lukewarmness, we cant just drop then the ultra trad, to a person who litterraly thinks its super common ans normal to go to a whorehouse, thats a bad missionary work, and its gold that churches hold more lay gatherings, if they are not mass, because we need to live in the church só its good if our community is United and grow more traditional overtime, this is needed as a show process of catholization of catholics, bringing tradition back after all the modernism, without a gradual cultural process will be severely pushed back
@@Onlyafool172 My family worships at the TLM. Francis forced it out of the parish church so we moved to another unused church. The priest has daily Mass in Latin. I am a convert. I am angered at Francis persecution of the TLM. I didn't convert to join a prot acting Catholic society. I converted to be with Jesus Christ in the Church He founded and maintains.
@@classicalteacherI want to receive both hosts, bread and wine. I don't think Scripture agrees with this idea that the bread is fully Jesus. We need both hosts
@@classicalteacher it wasant Francis it was your bishop or parishoner, because Francis lifted the ban on latin mass in 2007, but it is still difficult to parishoners ans bishops to accept it, mass was changed because of antisemitism, which makes sense in context it was wwII, some schismatic priests think that hitler is Black legended, (i heard this rumor so idk if its true) but they do think the church was overrun by jews, because some schismatic groups left before CVII because the Pope said do not force baptize Jews, and the SSPX founder was like, THEY WILL BE FORCEFULLY SAVED!!! proceeds to deny holocaust, so What happened? Simply groups strawmanned each other so much that any traditionalist was associated with antisemitism, and any charismatic was associated with liturgical revolution, which Led to this confusing state of the church, i can blame sedevacantists, for that, because when they left us for a guy clearly in the wrong we were overrun by modernism, so you can attenf Your TLM mass, believe we have no Pope, or you can help us bring back the church to its true roots, without sacrificing our missionary work, hence i proposed this New mass ordination, the Latin ones (obrigatory standard on sunday), and the ad populum, only excepction to doing latin mass would be on the religious missionaries because its difficult to set up, ans they are usually busy in hospitals and missions, but to dioceseans it should be mandatory because they are closest to large groups of people, while we are at that we should bring some harsher cathecism, to make more competent missionaries. Because we need strong United and traditional communities and great trained missionary priests like the 16 century jesuits who used to be examples of traditionalism (but their order is in disgrace today)
Pontifical slipper kisser army assemble!!
thats me baby, vicar of christ fr fr
✋ Present and accounted for
Beard: shaven
@@Sicilianus Slick: for granted
Francis says that Muslims worship the Christian God. That should be enough to prove that he is a heretic.
If you're Latin American the "No" is even more chad. He says it in such an Argentine way. It's great! I love Pope Francis.
You have been deceived by clever editing.
@@angrydachshund💀
@@angrydachshundno
Ima tell my kids that this was Pope Francis.
"...and then the Holy Spirit descended upon pope Francis I and said,"
"no".
Peter has spoken through Pope Francis!
Y'all are wrong for that lol
probably one of the few times it did
@@through-faith-alone *He
@@inkdupbagman3697 true
Why don’t these people understand, that not everybody has their values?
So true
They see their values as universal
@@marvalice3455they should stop proselytizing
Hahhaha
@VincentDaly-cp6yqJesus picked 12 men to be His priest's, and given the role they play as those that stand in the Person of Christ while giving the Sacraments to people, they must be men.
Christianity will never have a priestess😂
Thank You!!! As a woman, I have enough to do!
Indeed, I think it's great that the church keeps this ban in place: I'd be sorry to see women wasting their time keeping this outmoded nonsense afloat.
Brother I thought this was edited and went to watch the original 🤣🤣🤣🤣 It was even funnier then.
It’s not a matter of excluding women, it is simply a different role that needs to be assigned to a male. Heck the queen of heaven and mother of the whole church is Mary!
Why is having a penis and XY chromosomes required for the job?
None of that will you find in the Bible. Mary isn't the mother of the Church nor is she the queen of heaven. If anything is the queen of heaven it is the church which is the bride of Christ.
Read Revelation 12. The woman crowned with 12 stars is the mother of a male child "who will rule all the nations with the rod of iron". This is clearly and obviously the Messiah, so the woman is Mary *as a representative* of Israel @@thundershadow
@@Iffmeister No. Your use of the term obvious is hyperbole.
@@thundershadowwoman behold your son, son behold your mother. Christ gave mother Mary to us. Who raised and reared Christ? Mary did. She does the same for us to lead us to Christ.
*leans forward, looking her directly in her eyes*
NO.
I love POPE FRANCIS!!
The interviewer is a gentle and trying to be as innocent as possible and then he straight up destroys her lol.
You mean the guy who supports LGBT? That heretic? I mean most papists are heretics anyways.
Isnt this the same pope that says preist can bless same sex couples?
@@Gboi8 Did you watch the entire interview? He rebuts this claim exactly. He does not bless the couple, but each individual separately.
"Gentle" in the manipulative, sentimental way.
@@oktavianzamoyski9809 that's cool. Hey maybe you can educate me. Is it normal for catholic priest to bless people in mortal sin?
Hahaha, the Holy Father’s face was giving the answer beforehand.
I don't know what's hard to understand. God doesn't change.
Where in the Bible does it say women can't be priest?
@@donrobbins4970where does in the bible it says i cannot bring my AR-15 and slaughter school children?
@@donrobbins4970 catholics don't believe sola scriptura
@@donrobbins4970 ...
@@donrobbins4970 “A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent” (1 Timothy 2:11-12).
In the context of this verse, this letter is being written to address Church organization. It is not a ban on women in all teaching roles, in is a prohibition on women fulfilling the office of priest, who is meant to minister to the flock and administer the sacraments.
I see she had her miraculous medal and crucifix prominently displayed during the interviews. Was she trying to impress Francis? Does she display them when she reads the nightly news?
She will not be allowed.
its all for show and virtue signaling. the saul alinsky playbook to get what you want and manipulate.
its just for show. i bet she feels so obligated and burdened to show up to Mass on Christmas and Easter and feels entitled the the Eucharist despite not being in a state of grace (and potentially even sleeping around with various men).
God bless the Holy Father 🙏
Jesus said not to call anybody on earth your father.
@@Fahrenheit4051 Papal authority is not based "on earth". But it's still based.
@@sidneygray51 Stop worshiping men and stop trusting in your own works to save you
@@goblinoide we dont earn salvation through works and we dont worship men.
please do research before commenting.
@@goblinoideI can't fathom why Protestants attack Catholics on precisely the things we've never believed in.
Does anyone else find it cringe the way she worded the question to make it seem more sympathetic or hopeful "little girl who dreams"
Yep.
That made the 'No' even more based and funny
based
It’s about time Pope Francis told it like it is. The Catholic Church is open to all. Women have a place in our faith. Just not as priests or deacons. You don’t like it? Go be a Protestant. See how that works out for you.
You know what, it works out great 😁
Or come to the true church by becoming Orthodox.
Yes, the same problem as with the celibate. Why undo it?! Just go to another denomination!
@@GNavarro97 Deaconesses in the Eastern rites do not receive the sacrament of Holy Orders. They are not true deacons.
He literally destroyed liberals & "traditionalists" in 1 second lol
I love you holy father!
he's attempting to destroy the Church as well
@@NPC999how so?
@@katholischetheologiegeschi1319 listen to the rest of his response to the question. he clarifies no deaconesses with "holy orders".
mark my words, he will inflict the church with quasi-ordained deaconesses as part of his broader attack through modernism, which is the synthesis of all heresy.
@@katholischetheologiegeschi1319 because pope t marshall told "catholics" ???
Sounds like the early church to me?@@Linkgt
Francis has been mislabeled from day one. He’s not a liberal; he’s a pragmatist.
He's an idiot.
Kissing the pagan deity is not pragmatic...
@@hegel5816 That's a myth. It was confirmed as false.
Pope Francis is one of the reasons I left the eastern orthodox Church
welcome to the Western Orthodox Church
@@grizzly_8917 And why is that? I always felt alien to the Orthodox Church although it was my culture. I tried integrating into many parishes but it was always weird and the air per person ratio was making me sick due to youth breathing problems. When I went to the only Roman Catholic Church in my city, I instantly felt a sort of happiness in the people to be there, it was actually a community, a rather active one.
Also don't get me started on the huge divide in the Orthodox Church: patriarch Kyril za rolex, an important romanian priest (can't recall his name) affirming that sexual assault victims need to be punished because of their "beauty" and/or "cuteness" etc..
This alone doesn't deboonk the orthodox church, but with the mystical and contemplative aspects of the Rosary was it for me. Next week I will become a Catechumen in the one Holy, Apostolic and Catholic Church, blessed by the Lord I am, indeed.
God bless you all!
emirobinatoru
Also sorry for my incoherent text, my English skills aren't the best. I am trying my hardest to improve my writing and Zamyatin's We and his essays are a reference point for me.
Never thought I'd see that message 😂
You did well, i was almost orthodox because of Francis, but after hearing about the catholic exclusive fathers like augustine and Thomas, i feel in love with schoolastica, and after reading some councils and holy scripture as well as Dogmas i could not be orthodox, after a while i grew to love Francis, differently than the Orthodox church, Catholics denounced and were crystal clear about clergical abuse, after sawing the orthodox hide it, and because they are galvanised and country type churches, i saw a sparkle of righetousness in the catholic church.
Br. Diamond:
Quote “ pope “ Francis approves deaconesses.
😂 I read this in his voice too lol
Switch out Francis with Bergoglio, and then you've got it (I think)
Carlos 👀
“Antipope Francis approves deaconesses. This is because he is a manifest heretic of the Vatican II sect. The Vatican II sect has apostasized and is unable to have valid sacraments, as every priest ordained in it is a heretic. We recommend praying 15 decades of the rosary and staying home on Sunday. Avoid all forms of the quote Ordinary Form of the Mass.”
@@user-uu3vj9ig6s YO, JOSH
Sad how media tries to portray Pope Francis as a liberal by cutting his dialogues
Because they want Catholics to be into her3sy
"Liberal Pope."
Double speaking pope. He only said no to *ordained* deaconettes.
@@StanleyPinchakstop coping. I know you want to shit on the Holy Father and all, but all you'll end up doing is looking just as goofy like all the "trads" who claimed that he blessed same sex unions and the rest of the slander against the man.
And even if he did say that in the interview, is every word magisterial? St Catherine said that EVEN IF SATAN HIMSELF were pope, we should obey him because the Holy Spirit would not allow heresy.
Have faith.
@@chase6579 RUclips needs a reminder bot. Nobody ever gets held accountable for their ridiculous takes.
Our Lady of LA Salatte. Church in eclipse and Bergoglio is casting some seriously large shadows.
He is lying. He always lies. Next summer, he will say women deacons are quite a good thing.
@@tomthx5804 Source?
What people don’t understand is that Pope Francis is a Spanish speaker, and when he says no, he means no, which is also what no means in Spanish.
All all God's people said... AMEN.
BASED!
If you can identify as anything you want, just identify as a Deacon. I'm a pope sometimes myself, sometimes a fire truck.
Best Pope of the Decade!
Nice one
What an absolute chad
LOL I was expecting to translate a long explanation from spanish in my head. This is how all bishops/priests should reply. Francis was a nighclub bouncer so he knows how to speak.
Pope Francis can be based sometimes.
I think that's a no.....
Based.
Can you also post the rest of what he said after he said no? That would be great.
Yeah where he opens wide the door for unordained deaconettes😢
Pope Francis had a committee study this. That mustve been the answer. But for me, it comes down to the Presence of Christ. When a Deacon is ordained, they minister in Christs Presence. How could a female minister in Christs Presence, who is male? Its not possible.
As a woman I dont want that power and that responsibility. Leave us alone, women ! You are talking all the time about mental charge but you do charge yourself more and more just to feel more powerful than men.
Why bring up a LITTLE girl? Why not a grandma? It's weird, almost like she was trying to make someone feel guilty about their religious beliefs or something.
Based
Based Based Based Chad Papa Francis
May God Bless Pope Francis!
Common Francis W
I'm not wild about somethings he's done but this
Beautiful delivery!
Thank you Pope Francis! Prayers and love for you 💕✝️
Context. He said no only to ordained deaconettes. You will get unordained ones by hook or by crook.
Thank you Holy Father. Thank you
Too soon in typical bergoglio fashion he double speaks. You will see unordained deaconettes by the the next meeting of the synod.
BASED
W
**Insert bugs bunny “no” meme here**
“Oh not this crap again”
Based & Blessed 🇻🇦
VIVA FRANCO VIVA FRANCO VIVA FRANCO ⚡️🇻🇦
You left out the best part - her sudden reaction
Eastern orthodox Church have recently ordained a deaconess in Africa
Oh boy
No! We have our respective roles that were designed perfectly for us, once we live the fulfillment of these will we find true joy.
Become a nun.
Equal value different roles. Man is meant to toil and woman is for to nurture.
not equal value
"A little girl growing up ...". 😂 The secular Hollywood nonsense that tells us we can allow "follow our dreams", even if they are against God.
Yay! Well said Holy Father!
If I wanted an answer to a biblical question, the pope would be one of the last people I would ask. He recently said that all men are basically good, which is the exact opposite of what the Bible says. This is been a pattern with him.
The dogma of "All men are inherently good" is part of the Church. The pope didn't say it because he's going heretic on that topic.
You can look it up. It's "CATECHISM OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH, number 385."
In other words, all men are "CREATED" to be and do "good", but they can choose to do evil because of sin.
However, there is no such thing as "created inherently evil" to be pre-doomed to hell just for the sake of existing without any hope.
I hope that makes sense now.
Thank you for admitting you think God is evil and that you're not Christian
Yes. We are a created good ,but most of us choose evil. God is good and eternal, therefore everything He creates must be good and eternal
Correct and people should finally get it.
I think it's high time we recognised why the Lord our God did not permit women to serve as cohen or priests within the new covenant. To some of us, it is very clear.
That was a stupid question. A woman can't be a deacon for the same reason a man can't be a mother. But a woman could become a deaconess. After all, the Roman Catholic Church already recognises the orders of deaconesses in the Orthodox Churches.
Who said we recognize deaconesses in the Orthodox church
Good to see he hasn't totally lost the plot. 👍
As a Catholic, I love the answer. As a guy who studies organizational leadership, this helps explain why the Papacy is doing so poorly and the Church at large is in turmoil.
Based on
Weren't female deacons common in the Early Church in both the East and the West?
No.
Deaconesses are referred to in Scripture, but they were NOT like the ordained deaconate of the men. I don't know when this stopped being a thing. Perhaps it was supplanted by consecrated nuns? Would be interesting to research.🙏🌹
Unfathomably based and holy
I people were more charitable and prudent, we would all love Pope Francis. He's been often criticised for no good reason - by myself too in the past.
it's one thing if protestants or EO don't read Vatican website and think the Pope is some liberal, but it's absolutely shameful for Catholics to be fooled about their own Pope by what they read from random media online and not even bother reading the documents or anything on the Vatican website
Why libs care how the church is represented therefore to not go there bruh.
Address the C-40 Pope support
What does he say after that?
All the so Taylor Marshall fans listening to this will still find a way to call him a heretic for what he said
You mean like, Pachamama?
@@chrisfitzmaurice7484 you mean like our lady of the Amazon ? Pachamama was never at the Vatican, now do I believe that the whole prayer service in the Vatican gardens was a good thing to do probably not because it led to people like you who think it was pagan worship when it wasn’t
@@St.SebArL It was a pagan ceremony, dummy.
God will decide, not the church.
God has already decided
1 Timothy 2:1-12
Keep watching, his liberalism is manifested when he implies they can be non-sacramental "deaconesses".
What else should it mean? Deacons, priests and bishops are all sacramental in nature. Lol
Not everything has to bend to modern equality demands. The doctrine of Jesus' Church will remain the same forever. Sorry lads.
Una, Sancta, Catholica et Apostolica Ecclesia. Ave Christus Rex. Ave Sancta Maria.
Nice
Was this edited or it was his real answer straight up ? That Pope is so lukewarm when it comes to current days agenda.
It's not edited. Did you read Dignitas Infinita and its complete condemnation of gender theory?
NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
HOW do you spell N O !!!!??????
God Bless Pope Francis. Women are not to be clergy.
As a former Catholic I attend mass occasionally. Lots of prayers for young men to join the priesthood, nothing for the young women.
I don’t think that’s correct, we pray for many reasons, vocations are but one.
The Pope is correct.
I was glad to hear this answer. However, he has been known to change his mind. Secondly, it is rumored he is considering allowing women to carry out all the liturgical functions of a male deacon without actually ordaining them. There will be a new liturgical rite celebrated by a bishop appointing them to this new “ministry” and giving them a “blessing.” In order words, an “ ordination” without the laying on of hands, and the prayer of consecration.
You will get your deaconettes and you will like them or else😢
@@StanleyPinchak I can assure you, my friend, I will not like them. Nor will I participate in any sacrilegious Mass at which they attempt to function as “deacons.” If I wanted female priests and deacons, I would join the Anglican or Episcopalian sects!
@@giovanniserafino1731 I feel your struggle.
@@StanleyPinchak kind of like raisonettes?
Hahahaha nailed it.
So tru
I love it!
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Proof your religion is fiction:
In Reference to Deuteronomy 32:8-9
"I should add here that it is very clear from the grammar that the noun nachalah in v. 9 should be translated “inheritance.” Yahweh receives Israel as his “inheritance” (nachalah), just as the other sons of El received their nations as their inheritance (nachal, v. 8). With this verb, especially in the Hiphil, the object is always what is being given as an inheritance. Thus, Israel is given to Yahweh as his inheritance.6 It would make no sense for Elyon to give himself an inheritance. Moreover, as I’ve argued elsewhere, it is not just the Gentile nations that are divided up according to the number of the sons of El. It is all of humankind, i.e., “the sons of Adam.” This clearly includes Israel. And the sons of Adam are not divided up according to the number of the sons of El, plus one (i.e., plus Elyon). They are divided up, according to the text, solely according to the number of the sons of El. Thus, that Yahweh receives Israel as his inheritance makes Yahweh one of the sons of El mentioned in v. 8. Any other construal of the text would constitute its rewriting."
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The Canaanite pantheon was conceived as a divine clan, headed by the supreme god El; the gods collectively made up the Elohim. Through the centuries, the pantheon of Canaanite gods evolved, so that El and Asherah were more important in earlier times, while Baal and his consorts came to fore in later years.
Asherah - early semitic Mother goddess, "Lady of the sea," consort of El, also called Athirat, the mother of 70 gods
El - the chief deity, god of the sky, father of many lesser gods and ruler of the divine assembly, also worshiped by the Israelites
El Elyon -Special title of El as "God most High"
The Book of Genesis itself describes the patriarch Abraham as a worshiper of El-also called El Shaddai and El Elyon -- building altars, offering sacrifices, and paying tithes to him.
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Deuteronomy 32:8
When Elyon (El) gave to the nations their allotted inheritances, when he divided the sons of Adam, he established the boundaries of the peoples according to the number of the sons of El (El and Asherah had 70 sons and in line with the Table of Nations in Genesis 10 (70 nations) each son (Elohim) received a particular territory or people like the Canaanite god Chemosh in Numbers 21:29)
Yahweh’s portion was his people,
Jacob, the lot of his allotted inheritance (Yahweh was given Israel by his father, the chief Canaanite god El).
Psalm 82
’Elohim (Yahweh) stands in the council of ’El (chief Canaanite god)
In the midst of the gods (Elohim) he holds judgment.
“How long will you judge unjustly,
and show partiality to the wicked? Selah
Render justice to the weak and the fatherless;
vindicate the afflicted and the destitute.
Rescue the weak and the needy;
deliver them from the hand of the wicked.”
They have neither knowledge nor understanding;
they walk around in darkness;
all the foundations of the earth are shaken.
I said, “You are gods (Elohim),
sons of Elyon (El), all of you;
nevertheless, you shall die like mortals,
and fall like any prince.”
Rise up, O ’Elohim (Yahweh), judge the earth;
for you shall inherit the nations!
Google "The Most Heiser: Yahweh and Elyon in Psalm 82 and Deuteronomy 32 - Religion at the Margins" based on the majority scholarly consensus.
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My Pope, next Pope is gonna Fix mass, and fix eccumenism
I don't want a reformed Mass. I want the Traditional Latin Mass before Vatican 2.
@@classicalteacher me too, but that mass is impossible to people today, i fugired a better system would be to have traditional mass every sunday, and than a ad populum mass, a mass for begginer catholics, and one for veteran catholics, the sunday mass is always tridentine, or similar to it, idk if in tridentine the priest teaches life lessons or not but its good that it is done, the ad populim mass would be usually in sunday, it can be changed to a tridentine mass if the priest wants, but we need a "begginer mass" because of how hard it is to be born traditional, after that is stablished we should limit the types of music in thr ad populum mass that way, we are always cathecizing and promoting evolution on the worship, gradually training people to all come and understand the tridentine mass, which happens on sunday, we must remeber too, we need to convert people, and end lukewarmness, we cant just drop then the ultra trad, to a person who litterraly thinks its super common ans normal to go to a whorehouse, thats a bad missionary work, and its gold that churches hold more lay gatherings, if they are not mass, because we need to live in the church só its good if our community is United and grow more traditional overtime, this is needed as a show process of catholization of catholics, bringing tradition back after all the modernism, without a gradual cultural process will be severely pushed back
@@Onlyafool172 My family worships at the TLM. Francis forced it out of the parish church so we moved to another unused church. The priest has daily Mass in Latin. I am a convert. I am angered at Francis persecution of the TLM. I didn't convert to join a prot acting Catholic society. I converted to be with Jesus Christ in the Church He founded and maintains.
@@classicalteacherI want to receive both hosts, bread and wine. I don't think Scripture agrees with this idea that the bread is fully Jesus. We need both hosts
@@classicalteacher it wasant Francis it was your bishop or parishoner, because Francis lifted the ban on latin mass in 2007, but it is still difficult to parishoners ans bishops to accept it, mass was changed because of antisemitism, which makes sense in context it was wwII, some schismatic priests think that hitler is Black legended, (i heard this rumor so idk if its true) but they do think the church was overrun by jews, because some schismatic groups left before CVII because the Pope said do not force baptize Jews, and the SSPX founder was like, THEY WILL BE FORCEFULLY SAVED!!! proceeds to deny holocaust, so
What happened? Simply groups strawmanned each other so much that any traditionalist was associated with antisemitism, and any charismatic was associated with liturgical revolution, which Led to this confusing state of the church, i can blame sedevacantists, for that, because when they left us for a guy clearly in the wrong we were overrun by modernism, so you can attenf Your TLM mass, believe we have no Pope, or you can help us bring back the church to its true roots, without sacrificing our missionary work, hence i proposed this New mass ordination, the Latin ones (obrigatory standard on sunday), and the ad populum, only excepction to doing latin mass would be on the religious missionaries because its difficult to set up, ans they are usually busy in hospitals and missions, but to dioceseans it should be mandatory because they are closest to large groups of people, while we are at that we should bring some harsher cathecism, to make more competent missionaries. Because we need strong United and traditional communities and great trained missionary priests like the 16 century jesuits who used to be examples of traditionalism (but their order is in disgrace today)
There has only ever been one pontiff... the high potentate Jesus.
Wrong.
@@chrisfitzmaurice7484 Just Jesus.
@@thundershadow Scripture reference?
@@janeyount8412 1 Corinthians 3:11.
@@thundershadow Matthew 16:18-19.
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what are you doin here 😳 did your acc get deleted
@@rx0102 it did
@@pantsumonster ;^;