The explanation was amazing as always, but he's right the view could have been better. I have a practice disc lock where everything's clear but the discs, basically.
Comparing it to the cutaway view of the pin tumbler locks, in the tumbler lock, you can see what the pick is doing when it's moving the pins. In this, the discs are blocking the view of the pick.
Definitely had a “Well, duh, that makes sense” moment while watching this one. Seeing it happen is somehow completely different than having one disassembled and explained. Great vid!
At the end of the video, I felt like I could do that (if I had that tool)... But I suspect that's because he makes it look so stinkin' easy. This is a fascinating series...
I had the same "Well, duh, that makes sense" moment, just like you had, as a result of this new lockpicking video/series by LPL. As a "visual learner", a term that was applied to me all the way back at a grade school parent/student/teacher conference, I realize today that the term is not only fitting, but also accurate, where I am concerned. What a great video this man has created for us! Thanks LPL! Fred
"Seeing it happen is somehow completely different than having one disassembled and explained." Naturally. You meant "naturally", not "somehow". Because it's like that with everything. Naturally ;)
I came here to post the same thing. I knew it had rotating discs, but had no idea how it worked until I saw the cutaway with the discs and the side bar. This type of lock always had me puzzled. Not any more...
I was looking for a name of this kind of lock for a long time. It is super hard to unlock compared to pin tumbler locks. Now i am more sure that no one is going to steal my bike when i have this kind of lock 😁 I am begginer at lock picking and managed to pick pin tumbler padlock with 5 pins under 25 seconds with paper clips. So i guess locking with pin lock would take 5 seconds for someone to steal my bike 😂 This way it takes bigger tool and little more time so less chance that someone is going to try to unlock my bike 😂
Reminds me of a quote regarding the design of the space shuttle external tank: "That big tube down the side was officially called a "systems tunnel", which is aerospace contractor speak for "big tube down the side."
It really is, at first I was sceptical because it's not possible to see the pick, but the movement on the disks was more than enough to really understand how the picking goes
When you turned all of the discs clockwise, it immediately clicked why you do this on every lock. I know you've explained it in the past, but seeing it makes it make way more sense.
@@aspzx Maybe you are not stupid, you just have a different way of thinking about things. Maybe you understand enough of how it works already, or at least enough to satisfy your own feelings about it.
I've learned two things today - what it looks like when picking a disc detainer lock, and that I'd like LPL to consider a second career narrating audiobooks.
LPL's commitment to not wasting his viewers time combined with this new Inside Perspective series he's been doing is reaching an incredible level of efficiency when it comes to helping understand lockpicking. I have enjoyed his videos and started to gain an understand of the order of steps, but this video really expanded that understanding by leaps and bounds in under 4 and a half minutes!!
Seriously, this “inside perspective” series is the best, most informative series of videos you’ve ever made. I have learned so much more about lockpicking with this series than I have with your other videos. Thank you so much for posting them!! Kudos!!
that woud require also coming up with not only ways how to defeat locks but also how to PREVENT them from being defeated and highlighting ones that are making the picking difficult and not explaining in detail how to bypass even those that are tough to beat ... man is epitome of "it only matters if i could, not if i should" ...
Finally! Now I understand what happens inside. Now there are only two things needs further explaining: What is zero cut, and how you decide if a lock is tensioned from the front, or from the back.
"Zero cut" - as far as I can tell - means that the "unlocked" position for that particular gate/tumbler is the default (or "zero") position, so it doesn't need to be moved / shouldn't be moved to release the lock. On a linear spring tumbler lock with a "sawtooth" key specifically (apologies for any/all incorrect terminology), the "default" tumbler position is the full height of a blank key, where it has not been cut back at all - hence the term "zero cut".
@@ACuriousTanuki Close, but backwards. The zero cut pin/disc needs to be moved the farthest to release the lock. A DD key is a rectangular piece of metal with cuts in it to allow the key to move different distances before engaging with the disc. No cut (zero cut) engages the disc immediately. So, when he uses the tool to turn everything fully clockwise, it's the same as using a blank key; all the discs set for a "zero cut" are already in position. Maybe LPL will disassemble a DD lock to show the different discs. I know Bosnian Bill did that quite some time ago.
@@JamieStuff I think he meant it doesn't need to be moved from the context of picking, when you've already rotated all the discs and got them in the 'furthest' gate
Never would've thought that picking these means using a tool *inside* of the keyway to put notches on the *outside* in a correct position. Excellent explainer.
That's also what the key does! It goes inside the keyway and puts notches on the outside in correct positions, then turns the entire disc pack to unlock.
That was strangely, extremely satisfying to watch the false gates go to true gates. Must be satisfying to feel it happen as the person picking the lock
Very helpful. I had been misinterpreting what you were actually accomplishing by turning all the disks at the start, and so was somewhat confused by it all the times you showed it in the past. Thank you.
I've really been enjoying this series. It's easy enough to understand the mechanics of picking a regular pin tumbler lock with all standard pins, but anything more complicated than that is much easier to understand with the visual aid.
I believe they're usually the same construction as typical pin locks, but built in a different direction. Pin-in-pin would be another story and very hard to cutaway. At least the first pin in a dimple keyway is often easier to see when picking than with a standard pin keyway, because they're not as paracentric. Some don't have warding at all, with the keyway being completely rectangular.
I've been watching you do this for years, and this allows me to understand just what is going on. The concept of a false gate and true gate is much clear seeing this cutaway view. The mechanism of the lock is much simpler than I imaged, not to imply it is easy to pick when you don't have a view like this.
I wasn't sure what I expected from a disc detainer lock, but it wasn't quite this. I definitely didn't know about the bar that moved, but I didn't know what would be in there. LPL, I have to say that, even if I'm not a lockpicker, I absolutely love your videos just for the sake of curiosity and I especially love this Inside Perspective series you're doing. It makes all these locks make sense now on how they work and it's just super intriguing. Thank you for making these, especially with such a soothing voice.
want to say thank you. also the dude that said it would be extremely difficult to show disc detainer locks you were completely right. i had a previous comment asking if he could do a disc detainer lock, whom may read this have a nice day.
This series is is perfect for viewing what you do as a lock picker. And exceedingly helpful for me as a viewer (non-lock picker). Your delivery is authoritative without talking down. Thank you.
4:04 Honestly, it's not just "a little more inside" for me. I finally know what you were doing in those clips, that I watched on your channel, especially why you twist the lock at first. Thank you very much and I hope you will do this type of video more often. Have a nice day.
This helps out a lot. I didn't grasp the concept before: that when you spin everything to the right, you in essence pick the disks in reverse from the key rotation.
This man really just said to the lock security stagnation: 'Fine, i'll do it myself!' And did it. Educating the world about how locks work, to ensure that the problems are fixed eventually. Better late by a hundred years than never
Ohhhh….now I see what you mean by ………… This series is just pure GENIUS !!! When watching your videos regarding disc locks, I was always scratching my head when you were talking about false gates, true gates, etc. SOOO many thumbs up Mr. LPL !!!!!
I think this is the best type of lock out of all in the market because It take very special tools and very precise pick locking movement. Thank you for sharing.
Each one of these revealing videos is worth 100 of the older ones where you just kinda talk our way through them. Being a very, very visual thinker, when you show what's going on in 3 dimensions I see it all in perfect clarity. Thanks. 💜
Love this series. We're all used to hearing you describe what you're doing but being able to see what's happening inside along with your description is so cool.
LPL you had already taught me so much, and then you started this series. You've brought what was already a very informative channel to the next level. Thank you for challenging yourself and finding new ways to teach us.
Thanks LPL. Now I can imagine easily what is going on when you pick a disc detainer. Very easy to visualise since I've now seen what's going on from the inside. Looking at all the comments I can see that I'm not the only one who has had their inner eye opened. It's like I now have a clear 3D model in my head.
Thank you! This series helps not only in understanding what you're doing in your videos, but how the different types of locks work in general. Never had an clear idea, how a disc detainer lock works until today.
That was absolutely fascinating! I've watched every video you've put out, some more than once, and I have to say this was probably the most revealing one that you have posted - at least for me. I've known how pin tumbler locks worked, at least in general theory for as long as I can remember. Even before I got into watching lockpick videos, which started way back in Bosnian Bill's early days when one of his clips popped up in my feed, it was something about a banana... but, this one really demonstrated the workings of the disc detainer locks very well, and I really had a poorer understanding on how they worked. Thank you very much for all the work you put into making your videos. While you make it look easy, please be assured that the vast majority of your viewers know that it takes hours beyond counting of practice, and paying very close attention to even the tiniest details in order to achieve your level of skill, and we very much appreciate you sharing it with us.
Agree with you totally. Well said. I think this is my favourite video so far. A lot suddenly makes more sense to me now, & I can appreciate more what LPL is doing in his other videos. I'm actually tempted to give these disc detainer locks a go now, even though I still am pretty unskilled at pin tumbler locks & still learning. I've never even had a disc detainer lock, and was rather confused by them. Excellent video. Spot on comment for what I was thinking too.
I have never been able to imagine what must be going on inside a disc detainer lock (and have been too lazy to look it up). This video is incredibly clear and helpful.
Dear Mr. LockPickingLawyer... I only learned about disc detainer locks because of your videos, now, considering pick resistance I was interested in getting a few for personal use. However as I'm not a native English speaker in about 5 years I never knew how to explain the kind of lock I was looking for while buying on local shops. Today I can finally say I've seen a disc detainer lock in real life. It was being used on a elementary school and I was delighted by the sight of it and happy to understand how it works. Thank you for your amazing content throughout so many years. Sincerely, Lucas.
Fascinating and really cool!! This makes me want to go back and watch some of the older videos on this type of lock. I can't recall seeing you pick a lock like this without the tool you designed.
The pick of the New York Legend 1515 is a good pre-“the pick that Bosnian Bill and I made” video. So too is the entire series of when they made the pick.
You explained it extremely well, I had a hard time picturing how the lock worked. Now if only Sparrows shipped "The Pick That Bosnian Bill and I Made" to my country... *sad lockpicking noises*
I've watched hundreds of your videos, got the pick when you partnered with Sparrows on it, and still never understood the knack for these locks until JUST know. Thank you.
This bit of inside knowledge gave me a wayyyyy better idea of the nuances of what you are feeling when you are finessing the disks inside the lock. It's one thing to "say" what your doing and another to "show" what you're doing. Thank you.
This really helped to visualize this! Thanks! I feel like I should learn how to pick these, as so many bicycle locks here in the Netherlands are (usually Abus) disk detainer core. For example, my son lost his bike keys and we haven't been able to use his bike for a week. :( Also, people say I sounds like you but I'm not hearing it.
I bought a big Abus disk detainer D lock from a bike store last year - cost me £50... Now everyone can find out how to pick it from RUclips 😭 LPL is going to be the Park Tools of bike thieves...
@@MonkeyJedi99 cutting the bike kinda destroys the bike... I have a D lock and I'd say that if I locked it to an object, then you'd need an angle grinder or a plasma torch. Both would attract a lot of attention. Picking a lock, by contrast, is a lot more discreet. I wouldn't trust chains or a steel cable lock. But one thing I like about Abus, is that they make a lock holder that attaches to the frame, so you can keep the lock on the bike frame when you're not needing the lock. Some competitors do the same, but I'm not sure I've seen Kryptonite do it - could very well be wrong, but no bike store I've seen sells a Kryptonite lock that comes with a frame mount.
@@vaska00762 I suppose I have been jaded by videos of bike thieves in action in dumps like NYC. The one time I had a bike stolen was WAY back in the 1970's in Phoenix, and back then a simple mild steel chain was the norm. I found my chain cut, and no bike. After that, I only owned bikes I built from junkyard parts (though tires, tubes, pedals and seats were something I had to usually buy). I think my most expensive bike built that way had about $50 sunk into it. $55 if I painted the frame.
Funny, I just watched one of your videos, then was about to click on this one, and I was thinking of the similarity (and differences) between your voices and narration styles! Offhand, I think you both have deep, resonant voices, and similar intonations and pauses. But different pitches and timbres. BTW, I love your work, NJB. Learned about Strong Towns from you, too. Thanks so much, and please keep it up!
This series is above and beyond the call of duty. These will be used in locksmith schools for the rest of time. They will probably inspire better locks as well.
“I realise the view isn’t quite as good” My guy this is perfect I never knew like what false gates were and was trying to figure it out by watching a load of videos but this new series made me understand it a lot more
I'm not even halfway through the video and just seeing how the key works inside the lock has explained so much of what I was wondering how the disc detainer locks work since I've never really been familiar with them until I came across this channel Really appreciate these inside perspective videos because it makes lock picking a lot easier to understand
I love this series. I'd always wondered what these locks looked like being picked. It really clears up what things mean when you are narrating a lock picking scenario. Thank you.
Perfect explanation and no more cut away needed. My only lock knowledge is from watching your videos and I followed this one every step of the way. I understand so much more about disc detainer locks now! Thanks LPL!
I love this Inside Perspective series you've been doing! Just simply seeing the mechanism and how you actually work with it helps a ton in comprehending what's actually going on inside. I'm excited to see what else you decide to show us :D
I think that showed what's happening much better than you think. Now I think I understand A) How they work and B) What you're doing! I think this was a GREAT educational video.
So good, most underrated series of all time. Should have millions of views. I finally understand these locks and picking, compared to how the drawn pictures say it's supposed to work. Thanks again.
This video helps so much, I now understand how these work and what it is you are doing when picking. This series is the best so far in furthering my understanding of locks. Cheers LPL
Mechanical question: does the moving rod rely on gravity to fall into place? What happens if you hold the lock the opposite way? Thanks, amazing series, keep it up!
The tension created by turning the key pushes the rod into the slot into the discs. That's why some chineseoloy locks can be opened with a screwdriver and pliers.
@@thorlancaster5641 i doubt it's springs from the way the bar moves without being in the true gates. for sure the tension from turning the key like you stated
This provides a great view of the internal workings of these locks. Looking at the disks, there appears that there could be more than one solution in the alignment of the disks to open the lock. Is this accurate, or only an illusion of what could be seen in the video? Thanks for the great info on this type of lock.
Although I believe LPL has shown at least one lock where the manufacturing was so sloppy that the false gates were deep enough to allow more than one solution. It’s not supposed to happen though.
It's possible but unlikely if the lock is well made, unless someone intentionally created multiple true gates... I could maybe see it for a master key system, though, but disc locks are so rarely used in buildings.
This is easily my favorite series that you have done. Seeing what is actually happening when you say "nothing on one" or "probably a zero cut" is incredibly helpful!
These inside perspectives are so cool. They make understanding what you're doing so much easier. I'm curious, when you're picking these cut-away locks, are you closing your eyes where you're working by feel like you would if the lock wasn't a cut-away or are you watching what's going?
I've never fully understood why there is a difference in width between false and true gates. Why is it not possible/practical to make false gates as wide as the true gate, but shallower? It seems like a good anti-pick feature as it would mess with the sense of "there is lots of movement in this gate, so it's probably the true gate", but I'm guessing there's a reason why it wouldn't work.
I finally got to the "Inside Perspective" series, and they are great to see what you've been doing. The Disc Container lock especially because it's harder to disassemble and show what is going on. Thanks again.
Just you and me mate! I was expecting the first three hundred comments to be variations on this theme but no they’re not. I did a little silent hand wave air punch!
Actually seeing the pic in action makes soooo much more sense, the visualization of what one is doing inside now makes completely sense, and for a easier pic!!
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"Isn't quite as good as we'd all like"?! How on earth could be explained better than that?! It was AWESOME!
The explanation was amazing as always, but he's right the view could have been better. I have a practice disc lock where everything's clear but the discs, basically.
Seconded!
How does the key work too put everything in the right place. Of course it would be better if that where visualized as well.
Comparing it to the cutaway view of the pin tumbler locks, in the tumbler lock, you can see what the pick is doing when it's moving the pins. In this, the discs are blocking the view of the pick.
Transparent discs, so you can see the pick as well - but let's not overcomplicate things... :)
Definitely had a “Well, duh, that makes sense” moment while watching this one. Seeing it happen is somehow completely different than having one disassembled and explained. Great vid!
This was a fantastic video. I finally "get it" on DD locks!
Well, mostly.
Oh yes, I agree.
At the end of the video, I felt like I could do that (if I had that tool)... But I suspect that's because he makes it look so stinkin' easy. This is a fascinating series...
I had the same "Well, duh, that makes sense" moment, just like you had, as a result of this new lockpicking video/series by LPL. As a "visual learner", a term that was applied to me all the way back at a grade school parent/student/teacher conference, I realize today that the term is not only fitting, but also accurate, where I am concerned. What a great video this man has created for us! Thanks LPL! Fred
"Seeing it happen is somehow completely different than having one disassembled and explained."
Naturally. You meant "naturally", not "somehow". Because it's like that with everything. Naturally ;)
Your “Inside Perspective” series is fantastic. I had NO idea what a disc detainer lock was like before this. This video made it so clear.
I came here to post the same thing. I knew it had rotating discs, but had no idea how it worked until I saw the cutaway with the discs and the side bar.
This type of lock always had me puzzled. Not any more...
Same here. Now i also understand what falling into a false gate means as well
Same
Seriously, all i knew it as was "first we start by turing all the disks as far as they go!"
Amazing series and amazing work!
I was looking for a name of this kind of lock for a long time. It is super hard to unlock compared to pin tumbler locks. Now i am more sure that no one is going to steal my bike when i have this kind of lock 😁 I am begginer at lock picking and managed to pick pin tumbler padlock with 5 pins under 25 seconds with paper clips. So i guess locking with pin lock would take 5 seconds for someone to steal my bike 😂 This way it takes bigger tool and little more time so less chance that someone is going to try to unlock my bike 😂
LPL: "This bar that runs along the side, also known as 'the side bar'."
Me: nodding along like the expert I am
meanwhile, me: SIDEBAR, YOUR HONOR!
Reminds me of a quote regarding the design of the space shuttle external tank:
"That big tube down the side was officially called a "systems tunnel", which is aerospace contractor speak for "big tube down the side."
I thought that would be the bar you go to after being thrown out from the first one.
@@cameronjadewallace Beat me to it... Curses, foiled again!!
@@lancer525 😹😉
This cutaway series is hands down the best way I have ever seen to understand different types of locks. This was awesome. Thank you, LPL!
That really drives the concept home... Excellently done.
It really is, at first I was sceptical because it's not possible to see the pick, but the movement on the disks was more than enough to really understand how the picking goes
I was always confused about this kind of lock, not anymore!
It really drives the concept home, picks open the lock on the front door and walks right in too!
This view very clearly shows the mechanism and picking process. I definitely feel like I understand this type of lock now for future videos.
And past videos!
I can kind of see how very secured and very difficult to pick a lock like that. Recommend to buy any disc detainer locks?
Agreed 100%!
@@arrowghost what are you looking for? For my bike I just bought the Kryptonite Evolution 4, I trust the lock that LPL uses the most of all locks
Not to me, don’t get how the key make just enough rotation but not skip some and rotate the other to make it work…
When you turned all of the discs clockwise, it immediately clicked why you do this on every lock.
I know you've explained it in the past, but seeing it makes it make way more sense.
Very good point. I agree. It is so much more obvious to see it happen, than just hearing and seeing it from the outside of a closed lock body.
I'm stupid because I still don't understand why it's important.
@@aspzx Maybe you are not stupid, you just have a different way of thinking about things. Maybe you understand enough of how it works already, or at least enough to satisfy your own feelings about it.
@@aspzx it means you only have to pick it in the one direction.
do you mean sth like labirynths where most of the times it's easier to start from the end?
I've learned two things today - what it looks like when picking a disc detainer lock, and that I'd like LPL to consider a second career narrating audiobooks.
Lol he does have a soothing, clearly articulated style of talking. Agreed
Third career?
He could be a Siri preset
@@neptune9512 a male siri , i guess . but i need him for android assistant , though.
One of the few channels I don't speed up.
LPL's commitment to not wasting his viewers time combined with this new Inside Perspective series he's been doing is reaching an incredible level of efficiency when it comes to helping understand lockpicking. I have enjoyed his videos and started to gain an understand of the order of steps, but this video really expanded that understanding by leaps and bounds in under 4 and a half minutes!!
Indeed, even if I'm not very much into lock picking, just the compact and concise style of LPL's videos make them enjoyable.
Indeed, no wasted minutes speaking of nothing, and (thanks god!) no background music.
Seriously, this “inside perspective” series is the best, most informative series of videos you’ve ever made. I have learned so much more about lockpicking with this series than I have with your other videos. Thank you so much for posting them!! Kudos!!
Seeing the mechanics in action makes all the difference. We have jumped from “theory” to “in practice”. It answers a million questions.
I'm really liking these 'inside' views of locks. Please make more of them.
This man is single-handedly improving an entire industry. Unbelievable.
Anyone buying a masterlock after watching these... also unbelievable. :-)
Agreed.
Lock picking is basically lock reviewing.
that woud require also coming up with not only ways how to defeat locks but also how to PREVENT them from being defeated and highlighting ones that are making the picking difficult and not explaining in detail how to bypass even those that are tough to beat ...
man is epitome of "it only matters if i could, not if i should" ...
Finally! Now I understand what happens inside. Now there are only two things needs further explaining: What is zero cut, and how you decide if a lock is tensioned from the front, or from the back.
"Zero cut" - as far as I can tell - means that the "unlocked" position for that particular gate/tumbler is the default (or "zero") position, so it doesn't need to be moved / shouldn't be moved to release the lock.
On a linear spring tumbler lock with a "sawtooth" key specifically (apologies for any/all incorrect terminology), the "default" tumbler position is the full height of a blank key, where it has not been cut back at all - hence the term "zero cut".
@@ACuriousTanuki ahh yes, sounds good
@@ACuriousTanuki Close, but backwards. The zero cut pin/disc needs to be moved the farthest to release the lock. A DD key is a rectangular piece of metal with cuts in it to allow the key to move different distances before engaging with the disc. No cut (zero cut) engages the disc immediately. So, when he uses the tool to turn everything fully clockwise, it's the same as using a blank key; all the discs set for a "zero cut" are already in position.
Maybe LPL will disassemble a DD lock to show the different discs. I know Bosnian Bill did that quite some time ago.
@@JamieStuff I think he meant it doesn't need to be moved from the context of picking, when you've already rotated all the discs and got them in the 'furthest' gate
These Inside Perspective videos are awesome. It adds so much you can actually see what you are doing from both sides.
Never would've thought that picking these means using a tool *inside* of the keyway to put notches on the *outside* in a correct position.
Excellent explainer.
indeed, excellent video!
That's also what the key does! It goes inside the keyway and puts notches on the outside in correct positions, then turns the entire disc pack to unlock.
My favorite video from you so far. Awesone work on this one!
That was strangely, extremely satisfying to watch the false gates go to true gates. Must be satisfying to feel it happen as the person picking the lock
It's always enjoyable everytime
Very helpful. I had been misinterpreting what you were actually accomplishing by turning all the disks at the start, and so was somewhat confused by it all the times you showed it in the past. Thank you.
I've really been enjoying this series. It's easy enough to understand the mechanics of picking a regular pin tumbler lock with all standard pins, but anything more complicated than that is much easier to understand with the visual aid.
These help bring perspective to the process, regardless. Keep making them.
Though.. I am curious how dimple locks are going to look in this series.
I believe they're usually the same construction as typical pin locks, but built in a different direction. Pin-in-pin would be another story and very hard to cutaway. At least the first pin in a dimple keyway is often easier to see when picking than with a standard pin keyway, because they're not as paracentric. Some don't have warding at all, with the keyway being completely rectangular.
Exactly. And after he explains that I'd like to see the hardest of all locks to master, the dread locks.
@@VoltisArt I'm imagining a cut away with clear plastic to hold things in place.
When you're dealing with something so tactile, being able to see what's happening really helps me understand how it's supposed to feel.
The inner workings of locks always seemed sort of magical before but now they make solid sense and that is magical in and of itself! :D
I've been watching you do this for years, and this allows me to understand just what is going on. The concept of a false gate and true gate is much clear seeing this cutaway view. The mechanism of the lock is much simpler than I imaged, not to imply it is easy to pick when you don't have a view like this.
In a little of four minutes you didn't only show me how these things work, but how you pick 'em. Great stuff.
Yes, thats just what it is- GREAT!
I have only one complaint about this series.
You should have done this years ago.
Incredibly helpful.
I wasn't sure what I expected from a disc detainer lock, but it wasn't quite this. I definitely didn't know about the bar that moved, but I didn't know what would be in there.
LPL, I have to say that, even if I'm not a lockpicker, I absolutely love your videos just for the sake of curiosity and I especially love this Inside Perspective series you're doing. It makes all these locks make sense now on how they work and it's just super intriguing. Thank you for making these, especially with such a soothing voice.
want to say thank you. also the dude that said it would be extremely difficult to show disc detainer locks you were completely right. i had a previous comment asking if he could do a disc detainer lock, whom may read this have a nice day.
I love watching old videos compared to newer ones. LPL has so much more confidence in his vids. Crazy. Like he took a public speaking class.
I was actually hoping for an explanation on disc detainers. One of the types of lock I found it hard to visualise the mechanism for. Nifty stuff LPL!
I was not expecting this inside perspective series to go very far but its amazing that you can show so much
Thank you. Good to finally understand what you have been talking about all this time
This series is is perfect for viewing what you do as a lock picker. And exceedingly helpful for me as a viewer (non-lock picker). Your delivery is authoritative without talking down. Thank you.
4:04 Honestly, it's not just "a little more inside" for me. I finally know what you were doing in those clips, that I watched on your channel, especially why you twist the lock at first. Thank you very much and I hope you will do this type of video more often. Have a nice day.
This helps out a lot. I didn't grasp the concept before: that when you spin everything to the right, you in essence pick the disks in reverse from the key rotation.
This man really just said to the lock security stagnation: 'Fine, i'll do it myself!' And did it.
Educating the world about how locks work, to ensure that the problems are fixed eventually. Better late by a hundred years than never
So helpful. This series is incredible!
Ohhhh….now I see what you mean by …………
This series is just pure GENIUS !!! When watching your videos regarding disc locks, I was always scratching my head when you were talking about false gates, true gates, etc.
SOOO many thumbs up Mr. LPL !!!!!
No apology needed. The view inside was fantastic. Seeing the difference between true and false gates was very helpful.
This series has really helped my understanding of what’s actually going on, they’re greatly appreciated!
This is great. I never really understood how these worked before. Thanks LPL!
This is amazing. IT REALLY helps you understand the "feel" you explain when you pick and how to do it. I love it!
I think this is the best type of lock out of all in the market because It take very special tools and very precise pick locking movement.
Thank you for sharing.
Each one of these revealing videos is worth 100 of the older ones where you just kinda talk our way through them.
Being a very, very visual thinker, when you show what's going on in 3 dimensions I see it all in perfect clarity.
Thanks. 💜
I always was curious about, how these kinda locks work. This gave me a better understanding. Thanks !!!
Love this series. We're all used to hearing you describe what you're doing but being able to see what's happening inside along with your description is so cool.
LPL you had already taught me so much, and then you started this series. You've brought what was already a very informative channel to the next level. Thank you for challenging yourself and finding new ways to teach us.
Thanks LPL. Now I can imagine easily what is going on when you pick a disc detainer. Very easy to visualise since I've now seen what's going on from the inside. Looking at all the comments I can see that I'm not the only one who has had their inner eye opened. It's like I now have a clear 3D model in my head.
Thank you! This series helps not only in understanding what you're doing in your videos, but how the different types of locks work in general. Never had an clear idea, how a disc detainer lock works until today.
That was absolutely fascinating! I've watched every video you've put out, some more than once, and I have to say this was probably the most revealing one that you have posted - at least for me.
I've known how pin tumbler locks worked, at least in general theory for as long as I can remember. Even before I got into watching lockpick videos, which started way back in Bosnian Bill's early days when one of his clips popped up in my feed, it was something about a banana... but, this one really demonstrated the workings of the disc detainer locks very well, and I really had a poorer understanding on how they worked.
Thank you very much for all the work you put into making your videos. While you make it look easy, please be assured that the vast majority of your viewers know that it takes hours beyond counting of practice, and paying very close attention to even the tiniest details in order to achieve your level of skill, and we very much appreciate you sharing it with us.
Agree with you totally. Well said. I think this is my favourite video so far. A lot suddenly makes more sense to me now, & I can appreciate more what LPL is doing in his other videos. I'm actually tempted to give these disc detainer locks a go now, even though I still am pretty unskilled at pin tumbler locks & still learning. I've never even had a disc detainer lock, and was rather confused by them. Excellent video. Spot on comment for what I was thinking too.
This is fantastic! The view is great and the explanation is extremely helpful. Thank you!
I have never been able to imagine what must be going on inside a disc detainer lock (and have been too lazy to look it up). This video is incredibly clear and helpful.
Dear Mr. LockPickingLawyer... I only learned about disc detainer locks because of your videos, now, considering pick resistance I was interested in getting a few for personal use. However as I'm not a native English speaker in about 5 years I never knew how to explain the kind of lock I was looking for while buying on local shops.
Today I can finally say I've seen a disc detainer lock in real life. It was being used on a elementary school and I was delighted by the sight of it and happy to understand how it works.
Thank you for your amazing content throughout so many years.
Sincerely,
Lucas.
"the view isn't quite as good as we would like"
The view was superb mate, I understand this so much more now!
Thank you!
Fascinating and really cool!! This makes me want to go back and watch some of the older videos on this type of lock. I can't recall seeing you pick a lock like this without the tool you designed.
The pick of the New York Legend 1515 is a good pre-“the pick that Bosnian Bill and I made” video. So too is the entire series of when they made the pick.
You explained it extremely well, I had a hard time picturing how the lock worked. Now if only Sparrows shipped "The Pick That Bosnian Bill and I Made" to my country...
*sad lockpicking noises*
It is resold by many other lockpicking sites (with a markup, obviously) so check if any of the usual suspects have it.
"The pick that Bosnian Bill and I made" ☑️
I'm not disappointed
I've watched hundreds of your videos, got the pick when you partnered with Sparrows on it, and still never understood the knack for these locks until JUST know. Thank you.
This bit of inside knowledge gave me a wayyyyy better idea of the nuances of what you are feeling when you are finessing the disks inside the lock. It's one thing to "say" what your doing and another to "show" what you're doing. Thank you.
This really helped to visualize this! Thanks! I feel like I should learn how to pick these, as so many bicycle locks here in the Netherlands are (usually Abus) disk detainer core.
For example, my son lost his bike keys and we haven't been able to use his bike for a week. :(
Also, people say I sounds like you but I'm not hearing it.
I bought a big Abus disk detainer D lock from a bike store last year - cost me £50... Now everyone can find out how to pick it from RUclips 😭
LPL is going to be the Park Tools of bike thieves...
@@vaska00762 Most bike thieves don't pick locks. They cut chains, bars cables, or the bike or the object you have the bike locked to.
@@MonkeyJedi99 cutting the bike kinda destroys the bike...
I have a D lock and I'd say that if I locked it to an object, then you'd need an angle grinder or a plasma torch. Both would attract a lot of attention. Picking a lock, by contrast, is a lot more discreet.
I wouldn't trust chains or a steel cable lock. But one thing I like about Abus, is that they make a lock holder that attaches to the frame, so you can keep the lock on the bike frame when you're not needing the lock. Some competitors do the same, but I'm not sure I've seen Kryptonite do it - could very well be wrong, but no bike store I've seen sells a Kryptonite lock that comes with a frame mount.
@@vaska00762 I suppose I have been jaded by videos of bike thieves in action in dumps like NYC.
The one time I had a bike stolen was WAY back in the 1970's in Phoenix, and back then a simple mild steel chain was the norm. I found my chain cut, and no bike.
After that, I only owned bikes I built from junkyard parts (though tires, tubes, pedals and seats were something I had to usually buy). I think my most expensive bike built that way had about $50 sunk into it.
$55 if I painted the frame.
Funny, I just watched one of your videos, then was about to click on this one, and I was thinking of the similarity (and differences) between your voices and narration styles!
Offhand, I think you both have deep, resonant voices, and similar intonations and pauses. But different pitches and timbres.
BTW, I love your work, NJB. Learned about Strong Towns from you, too. Thanks so much, and please keep it up!
I was looking forward to seeing a cut away of this type of lock, and this certainly didn't disappoint. I love this series, keep up the great work!
This series is above and beyond the call of duty. These will be used in locksmith schools for the rest of time. They will probably inspire better locks as well.
yeah, we'll need those better locks to protect against the inspired better thieves that learned to pick locks from watching LPL's videos😂
“I realise the view isn’t quite as good”
My guy this is perfect I never knew like what false gates were and was trying to figure it out by watching a load of videos but this new series made me understand it a lot more
I'm not even halfway through the video and just seeing how the key works inside the lock has explained so much of what I was wondering how the disc detainer locks work since I've never really been familiar with them until I came across this channel
Really appreciate these inside perspective videos because it makes lock picking a lot easier to understand
I've always been curious how these actually work, and you've explained it perfectly!
We were waiting for this one just so you would use the pick.
What pick would that be then? 😂
I love this series. I'd always wondered what these locks looked like being picked. It really clears up what things mean when you are narrating a lock picking scenario. Thank you.
Perfect explanation and no more cut away needed. My only lock knowledge is from watching your videos and I followed this one every step of the way. I understand so much more about disc detainer locks now! Thanks LPL!
It is like several years worth of information now makes sense. Thank you LPL. No BS.
My regards to whoever did the cutaway; brass machines nicely enough but it is still work and this job was done well.
I love this Inside Perspective series you've been doing! Just simply seeing the mechanism and how you actually work with it helps a ton in comprehending what's actually going on inside. I'm excited to see what else you decide to show us :D
This was a great explanation, nothing like I had expected but now I get the concept fairly well, great job.
I think that showed what's happening much better than you think. Now I think I understand A) How they work and B) What you're doing! I think this was a GREAT educational video.
So good, most underrated series of all time. Should have millions of views. I finally understand these locks and picking, compared to how the drawn pictures say it's supposed to work. Thanks again.
Finally! Thank you!
Maybe I'm crazy but this view was insanely helpful in understanding theses types of locks.
Fascinating stuff! Thank you!
This video helps so much, I now understand how these work and what it is you are doing when picking.
This series is the best so far in furthering my understanding of locks. Cheers LPL
I never knew how a disc detainer lock worked. Now it makes a lot more sense. Thanks!
This is a terrific series. For the first time I feel as if I understand how this type of lock works!
Surprised a lawyer feels comfortable casually using a sidebar for feedback like that.
BOOOOOOOOOOO!
Been a while since your last video, hoping everything is good with you.
I've never understood what disc detainer locks are before this video. Thank you for this demonstration, suddenly everything is crystal clear.
I did my best to understand this before your video but now it’s crystal clear. Thank you for taking the time to do this.
Inside Perspective - A Magician shows the audience how the LPL pulls a rabbit out of his hat.
That trick never works!
This time for sure! 🎩🦁
Mechanical question: does the moving rod rely on gravity to fall into place? What happens if you hold the lock the opposite way? Thanks, amazing series, keep it up!
Springs
@@CR-iz1od cool thanks
The tension created by turning the key pushes the rod into the slot into the discs. That's why some chineseoloy locks can be opened with a screwdriver and pliers.
@@CR-iz1od I haven't seen any locks that use springs, but they might do this in some Abloy models.
@@thorlancaster5641 i doubt it's springs from the way the bar moves without being in the true gates. for sure the tension from turning the key like you stated
This provides a great view of the internal workings of these locks. Looking at the disks, there appears that there could be more than one solution in the alignment of the disks to open the lock. Is this accurate, or only an illusion of what could be seen in the video? Thanks for the great info on this type of lock.
There is only one true gate on each disc, so there is only one solution. Most of the notches are false gates and are useless.
The other notches are "false gates", and they are cut too shallow to allow the sidebar to drop down enough to allow the lock to turn.
Although I believe LPL has shown at least one lock where the manufacturing was so sloppy that the false gates were deep enough to allow more than one solution. It’s not supposed to happen though.
It's possible but unlikely if the lock is well made, unless someone intentionally created multiple true gates... I could maybe see it for a master key system, though, but disc locks are so rarely used in buildings.
This is easily my favorite series that you have done. Seeing what is actually happening when you say "nothing on one" or "probably a zero cut" is incredibly helpful!
Even knowing how disc detainers work, I didn`t realize the all purposes of rotating first and then tensioning without this video. Great stuff,
These inside perspectives are so cool. They make understanding what you're doing so much easier. I'm curious, when you're picking these cut-away locks, are you closing your eyes where you're working by feel like you would if the lock wasn't a cut-away or are you watching what's going?
I've never fully understood why there is a difference in width between false and true gates. Why is it not possible/practical to make false gates as wide as the true gate, but shallower?
It seems like a good anti-pick feature as it would mess with the sense of "there is lots of movement in this gate, so it's probably the true gate", but I'm guessing there's a reason why it wouldn't work.
I was questioning the same thing, like wouldn't it be so much more secure if they were all the same width.
Also why don't try to make sidebard and disks hard enough that there would be no clicks when some of the disks set.
This design used to be "unpickable," until LPL and Bosnian Bill built that tool.
Lpl thanks for continuing this series. I'm sure it is not easy getting the locks cut open, but it makes your Channel very unique and easier to learn.
I finally got to the "Inside Perspective" series, and they are great to see what you've been doing. The Disc Container lock especially because it's harder to disassemble and show what is going on. Thanks again.
I thought he wasn't going to say it
"The pick that Bosnian Bill and I made".
I sighed in relief when he said it
Just you and me mate! I was expecting the first three hundred comments to be variations on this theme but no they’re not. I did a little silent hand wave air punch!
This is like poetry, it looks so simple but shows so much. I finally understand this kind of lock. Thank you
Actually seeing the pic in action makes soooo much more sense, the visualization of what one is doing inside now makes completely sense, and for a easier pic!!
Sterling work sir. Your channel is a true treasure.
This. Was. Fantastic! Finally I understand why you rotate all the discs as far clockwise as they’ll go. Thank you!