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📌BREAKING NEWS! Dev Gets in heated discussion, Community manager responds, and much more ruclips.net/video/PSs9vl_qLp4/видео.html
We might see a change coming soon considering the community manager has essentially said the more negative feedback, reviews and refunds will give them (as in developers) more pull in discussions. What do you think? I would advise taking it with a grain of salt because this involves Sony, and it’s uncertain what will happen. Also apologize for monotone voice this was recorded in the morning, probably that's why.
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Arrowhead came and and said "Hey guys we have no clue whats going on with our game right now so hold tight." and then proceeds to tell us all the information we already know. Sorry but thats just bad it seems they just wanted their game out there no matter how so they made a terrible deal. Like I know this was Sony's decision and Arrowhead has no say but still they singed the papers and made the deal this is sadly on them ultimately.
Any idea if Sony has said anything about all this? Am I crazy to think that they started it all, but aren't helping with any of the fallout?
Doubt it. If the player count is mostly the same they will do nothing. Sony will not waist a chance to promote their service with a trending game.
@@garthaslanian3747 They changed their TOS before this announcement, so it's 100% Sony's fault. That plus the fact that they sold the game in areas where PSN is not available, which is akin to bricking you product.
But then again, Arrowhead did sign up with Sony, so one could say they are, at least, partly to blame too.
@@gt1515gtand it will be mostly the same because the game is good, and 99% of people will continue playing the game they enjoy without even knowing about this drama
They don’t do that for PlayStation exclusive games, god of war, last of us to name a few, but helldivers ? It’s obvious they’re doing it for greed. Sony needs to back track.
I think its probably an Online Crossplay issue.
@@darzinth The whole point of "CROSSPLAY" is that you can play with other platforms across from yours. I don't need a playstation account in COD to play with playstation players, or xbox players/microsoft account. The ONLY reason they want to do this is to boast about their playstation account user number to shareholders, and a potential vector to get more people into the playstation ecosystem.
Holy moly! A Corporation seeking profit! Imagine the horror!!!
The other games dont have this requirement cause they are not multiplayer games that have human to human interaction.
@@thepunisherxxx6804 also, according to some now deleted Tweet threads, it allows them to more easily "Ban" players and even permanently.
@darzinth that makes even less sense. Sony doesn't do this with final fantasy online. Why the the fuck is it in some third-party game.
Sony is being overly heavy handed with its third party games like it did with stellar blade.
Why can’t we ever have a good thing without corporations ruining it with their greed
Literally. Gaming is so fucked nowadays because of shit like this. Feelsbadman
Remember this next time someone argues against gatekeeping. Gaming became mainstream, then it became shit, because the masses will pay for the slop that the gamers 20 years ago would never have tolerated.
Bro you sign up for everything you do online , grow up
@@lemoncaketerrorist2921awww booo hooo poor baby 😂 I was diving all night , had a great time, enjoy your clan 😂
@@Bigbadwolfanderson you have to create accounts for a lot of things, yes. But if it wasn’t required from the start I shouldn’t have to do it now. Especially since I don’t want Sony stealing my data with how often they get hacked. I bought a game on Steam, I’ve played it with my Steam account, why should I have to now make a PSN account? It’s stupid
“ Safe gaming environment “
Hey Sony I got hacked about 3 years back and they are still charging me for an account that I don’t even use anymore because I can’t get it back. I’ve called the hotline on the website and talked to their stupid help bot. So fuck them
Why did you put any real informations in your account ?
@@ni9274 Pretty sure they say they can ban for you fake information.
So true
@@ni9274 They'll ban you for any discrepancy.
@@ni9274 I was on PlayStation at the time.
You know, at least I find soluce in the fact arrowhead is trying to help out the people that will loose access to the game, and telling us to express our disgratitude in reviews refunds and etcetera to put more weight on Sony's shoulders is really something
Passing the buck. Arrowhead will have been well aware of this when they signed up with Sony as publishers. Its has to have been in the contract. If it was not then its within Arrowheads power to appeal against it as it would be considered out of the agreement.
They still made the deal and are now realizing just how bad the deal really was and are pushing blame. They are not solely responsible but they still need to so accountability other then just a finical hit to try and get sony to break the deal and drop them. Companies need to start saying no to bad deals and just shelving the project till or if they can get a good deal that helps them and the consumer. But they just want their name and game out there and they are willing to make bad deals with devils to do it.
@@johncogan8689 no its because there not Sony exclusive Sony doesn't do this to games only on Playstation. Sony probably started making the force it because of the Xbox talks or its the only way Sony will allow Xbox players to play with us
@@JAy-dx1xbXbox does the exact same thing.
@@russrandolphXbox tells you up front and is available everywhere. Sony waited months to drop this on us and cuts out players from over 100 countries.
Its just flat out wrong to make people who don't own a Playstation to make a Playstation account. If they were going to do that, it should have been a PS5 only game. You sold it to PC players and now your trying to USE them to artificially boost your console numbers. Its straight up crooked.
absolutely classic sony maneuver
Xbox requires an account to play sea of thieves on PS5. I hear no one complaining there. 🤔
@@russrandolph absolutely classic microsoft manoeuvre
@@russrandolph The difference is that it always required you to have one at release, HD2 did not, for 3 months, nobody said anything so people assumed it was optional, and at this point it was, changing the terms of service and now requiring an account after the fact is just silly.
Fast forward to June 6th, Sony execs walk into meeting with shareholders to show this new “growth” in shareholders, only to see this staggering decline and be like we don’t know what happened 😂
THIS! lol
Sony cutting off players on a platform they get very little profit from will likely not show a huge decline. I feel that if it hurt their bottom line that much, they wouldn't be doing it.
Except Sony is too huge to even feel the impact that boycotting this game will do. Don't forget they manufacture almost every kind of electronic. The PlayStation division of Sony is like a neat little party trick or a side hustle to them. The players literally mean nothing.
@@Scapegoat32 Yea but the AA dev will feel it and make dev teams think twice about working with Sony, if they can't get good dev teams to make the games the games will be el garbageh and the place will be bottom up real quick.
@@Scapegoat32 if sony was so big this problem wouldn't be happening since the sold the game in 120 countries that sony does not do business in atleast xbox would of been closer more global coverage sony is only in about 30% of countries globally
All we want is for Sony to stop the account linking but Noooo they decided to release a statement on why we should be linking and it's for our safety I mean come on we play the game on Steam for a reason
I also had an account, but it got hacked with one of their data breaches
The reason we play it on steam: Its convenient, it doesnt require any additional accounts, its secure, and all our other shit's on there anyways
Sony: BUT YOUR SAFETY! Q_Q (what they actually meant is: BUT WE WANT TO SELL YOUR DATA IN OUR ANNUAL DATA BREACH)
@@shoulderpyro you don't have to give them any data, use false name and secondary email
Here's the issue which you might not know, they are under a contract and which probably are forcing the devs at Arrowhead to bend the knee kinda like how it happened with Stellar Blade being day 1 patched and censored and just like with the other incident they also got a gag on not blaming Sony for this.
@@ni9274 And then still lose my steam account in the annual breach, no thank you
tbh, it's the fact that people who bought the game dont seem to have a guaranteed way to refund the game for not being in a region that sony has an umbrella over. If they don't this is pure theft.
considering that the Devs are actively (as possible) asking people to refund to fight back. foreigners most likely have a way to refund
if we don't push Sony back this time, what else will they do? "link your bank account and SSN to your PSN account or get banned!"?
Nah, they'll just require a subscription to ps plus
Wrong
Steam will delist the game
Did they think they were going to pull this crap with PC players and get away with it? The arrogance is staggering.
You are delusional.
What the hell are you talking about?? Pc players? As someone who's been playing playstation his whole life and never played a single game on a PC I'll delete the game ASAP as well as my friends who also play on a PS5! They shouldn't be damaged only by steam players but by everyone with this call, they brought this to themselves!!
its cute you actually think this mean anything to corporations. get a clue man. they know 80% of people are gonna blame the developers and in 1 month forgotten it. Tiktok generation attention span
They are getting away with it. A ton of people just don't care
@@boombok5369 cancel your PSN as well, if you can/want, as I think it sends a much clearer picture to Sony. Don't know your specific situation or games you play, so it shouldn't be taken as a demand, just a suggestion.
I think a better solution would be an optional sign in if you want to enable cross-play ? Idk it's the first idea off the top of my head.
It's not about crossplay. HD1 was also published by Sony yet never required it.
99% sure this is about data collection and boosting PSN numbers to prove a point to shareholders.
@@MrDoggo23 How is this about data-collection? All you need to specify to create an account is your date of birth and location, which you can lie about, and a valid email, and it takes 1 minute to set up a valid throwaway email.
Unless you think account linking will somehow magically give sony access to all the data steam has on you, it doesn't, it just tells them that the PSN-user so-and so has this-and-that steam id.
@@MrDoggo23exactly, these shills defending the devs don't get it.
Sony wants that juicy data, shareholders spend billions on data.
People don't realize how valuable data is.
@@HungryLoki PSN collecs your data and adds it to a database (customer) also it counts you as a number to present to their investors to tell them that PSN is worthy to be kept funded.
I think what will happen is when the date comes a large number of players will not comply, leave the game, and go start playing other games.
you know it's dire when i've moved to fallout 76 for the first time ever instead of playing hd2 lmao
@@mekallowwelcome to Appalachia honestly the best time to jump in we got a map expansion dropping soon and there's plenty of backlog content to play if you ever need help don't be afraid to ask other players or if you feel inclined I'm sure there are plenty of community discords/groups to link up with whether you decide to join for the long term or are just here to take in the scenery us here at the 76 community hope you enjoy your stay friend 😊❤
@@thornyduck thank you c: fallout 76 community in a nutshell right here, i never got into it because i was a goober who rode the wagon. Now that i've started playing it, it's phenomenal, it's so much fun and people are really cool. The live events and camps make it so interesting, i'm enjoying going on scrap runs since they actually hold incentive now. Just an all round fantastic time. Also good god map expansions? I'm like level 13 and have seen maybe 1/4 of the map xD
Anyone who thinks this is ok, needs to realize maybe it is for you but there are alot of regions that don't have access to PSN.
or dont trust sony interactive with protecting their data
I have played games that are not released in my region a lot of times, there are ways around it, pretty easy ways. People are just pissed at Sony for multiple reasons, but in the end they funded this game, like it or not this game was made because of Sony investing into it.
@zaniusmaximus2490 easy workaround, don't need to give them your name and main email. Stop your fuckin tantrum.
@@zaniusmaximus2490nobody cares about a bunch of smelly gamers data your on a phone rn that tracks ur days numb nuts
Yeah and using a VPN is against Sony's TOS.
Managed Democracy taking a huge L in the past 48 hours 🤣🤣🤣
ROCK AND STONE! ✊
"managed" democracy isn't really democracy.
@@agent00soul48 Everyone should know that, sherlock.
We fight for rock and stone !
@@digivagrant "everyone should know" But do they?
DID I HEAR A ROCK AND STONE‽
So this is how liberty dies....
Democracy has been managed
no
With autistic applause
Automaton brain invasion...
Please elaborate how liberty dies.
And please limit yourself to concrete facts, none of the generic "they will steal our data"-bullshit.
He didn't jump on a grenade. He threw one. If they always intended to mandate the PSN link, then selling to those in restricted regions was theft.
I love the game. But i will not comply with scumfuck practices.
Arrowhead is trying to come up with a solution to Sony’s DUMBASS decision
Give them time
You don't even know how the business went down. So throwing your anger at the devs is bs. Yall sitting here bashing good devs because there force to do something like we don't see this all the time Sony/Microsoft are greed company's but doing all this to good devs who showed they care about there game and community is straight bs and it really shows how you people are
I don't think arrowhead always intended to mandate the PSN link, but Sony definitely did, anger should be tossed at them, not the arrowhead developers. Spits clearly was fed up with all the crap going down, and he wasn't defending the way he handled it though the way he explained it was a bit self-righteous, I can't imagine the feelings and thoughts going through the developers right now.
@@JAy-dx1xb You must be new in community... 😂
Not sure what this has to do with Arrowhead. As publisher, it is sony that would have coordinated that with steam, so if sony tells steam to sell the game to players in regions where you cannot create a PSN-account, that's on sony, certainly not on Arrowhead.
Perfect world. Don't link psn? Well, no cross play for you then, everyone is happy. Sony is just going full villain
But how will Sony prove to investors that they have increased their user counts on PSN? /sacrasm
@@MrDoggo23 well, they could always try and revive some of their other Multiplayer shooters, like Resistance or KillZone... Oh wait, I forgot that would require actual effort and passion, which is in short supply it seems😂
@@chriswihulu Heard MAG was pretty good back in my PS3 days. But yeah, as a Sony game you can guess how it ended.
Nothing new here, Sony can suck a fart.
@@MrDoggo23 only played it a little MAG, but I recall it was fun overall. I was far more locked into Resistance and KillZone, which honestly deserve to get a remaster of their trilogy, or just some Backwards Compatibility.
But, i will have to see it, before I can believe it...
How bout just drop the requirement 🤷 theres your leverage. Its been fine for months now without it, it will be fine going forward.
If not lvl118 SES Executor of Judgement out
"But the account linking is mandatory!" ..as if. Its been running fine without linking for 3 months but now Sony wants that juicy data harvesting going on several million players. 'S gonna be an interesting funeral in july
They said it was essential for day one , see you later , plenty of divers to replace you , that’s the reality .
@@shoulderpyroit wasn’t running fine , they disabled the linking to make it fine , then fixed it , learn to read. It’s a 2nd grade tactic cadet
@@Bigbadwolfanderson dawww lil corpo simp.
the fact remains, it was running fine without the link requirement. Or were you perhaps unable to play the last 3 months because your account wasnt linked?
Popular opinion currently seems to be "F this, roll this announcement back or enjoy a dead game" - no matter what delusions you might harbour. Steam reviews are a powerful thing you know. If something's reviewed at Overwhelmingly Negative, which is where its headed, no new players will be joining. So goodbye "plenty of divers to replace you"
@@Bigbadwolfanderson Get a life, I've seen you comment on way too many of these complaints. Learn your company sucks, they all suck, yours just sucks more at the moment because they're acting like Nintendo when they have the integrity of a back alley drug dealer.
What really bothers me is the root-level access anti-cheat they use coupled with mandated PS4 network coupling. I'm not comfortable with Sony having that (potential) access level to my computer.
Anyone remember when Arrowhead said they are fully independent and they can do whatever they want with HELLDIVERS? Yeah... Pepperidge Farm remembers...
I guess this means Helldivers isn't going to XBOX after all. Good luck getting Microsoft to agree to allowing SONY to mandate everyone on Helldivers XBOX make PSN accounts.
It was lie
I have no sympathy for the devs at all, they agreed to this shit.
If that were true, how on Super Earth is that cunt Baskinator still one of their CMs?
5:20 I believe he initially lacked awareness of why people were upset, perhaps assuming it was merely due to laziness regarding creating a PSN account. However, following the backlash, he likely educated himself, possibly by watching a RUclips video, and subsequently penned a response having grasped the genuine issue at hand.
The devs still don't deserve the disrespect when they have Ben nothing but respectful to the community
@@JAy-dx1xbSo you just gatekeep yourself from a fun game because some incompetent CM said things he shouldn't do? .
That seems pretty dumb I agree with you that people lash out to the devs so much without knowing the difference.
I'm 41 years old. I don't care if someone calls me a c********* online. I want a refund. I didn't sign up to have Big Brother watching my every move. I will never play another cross compatible. Game no one wants to play with council players. 90% of them are 8-year-olds with out parents.
“Technical issues” is bs for why they didn’t roll this out at launch.
Q1 saw sales well above what they estimated. The game was a smash hit and plenty of success to report on the Q1 earning call. They pushed the psn requirement to Q2 to have a massive increase in active psn accounts a few weeks before Q2 earnings call.
I’m going to assume they are just as honest with the other answers as they are with the reason for not rolling out the psn requirement at launch.
Farewell fellow helldivers. Fuck Sony! 79 hours in the game, lvl 30, and a super citizen btw. It was fun
I'm out at 77, refund got denied though.
Spitz is 100% in the wrong and here's why: They're a community manager... they're not paid to dish out sass like the Wendy's twitter account. This is an entertainment product and their job is to be the bridge between the devs & the community. Snarkily daring the community to go review bomb unnecessarily puts their colleagues at risk of losing their jobs as it damages the company's long term reputation.
They can say they're doing it to protect their team, but their actions are doing the opposite.
Exactly....with the terrible reviews on Steam you can bet that will effect sales now going forward....a bad move......
I'm sure he was saying to do that so that Sony will see how it's affecting the game and will hopefully stop the account linking, just a guess though
he was right though thats the only way sony will take notice and sony is the one making the decision how people are still upset at arrowhead about this I don't get everyone is misplacing their anger
@@NinjaWormy On their other posts they're mocking users and it's absolutely making things worse.
The sassy Wendy's account is probably just Ben Palmer anyway.
I have not seen a single modder in helldivers 2 my entire gameplay of it. Its really all about psn numbers
Also it is possible to make an account in countries that don’t have psn but it also can get you banned my friend tried the vpn tactic and he got banned
I have seen several hackers. Most are using unreleased stratagems.
and just like that helldivers 2 might as well be a console game only... sad
I’m not going to become a victim of another one of Sony’s hacking scandals. You can have a good game that people love but once you lose your playerbase's trust it’s hard to get it back. Just look at what’s happened to Escape from Tarkov. I blame Sony most of all for this mess, they always seem to put money and greed over the consumers. Not like they’re the only ones out there, it’s the majority of the big names in gaming. I pray for you fallen Helldivers, may you one day return to Super Earth.
Got the game on PSN for kid, got the game for self on PC. By linking PSN to Steam will no longer be able to play with kid without making a new PSN+ acc for kid who is below age for making a PSN acc and buying another copy of the game
Not true, you can make a sub/kid account. My kid has one and has access to any game I have on PS4
Well you can always make them believe you are playing with yourself on two different emails, they wont care.
You don't have to put any real information to create an account
SONY is not backing down, and AH does not control sales or promotes the game, is all SONY.
Man I knew it wasn’t going to be this good for long. Nothing this good lasts long. There’s always something to come and ruin it.
I can’t get a single player to match make into my server today. Very weird. Usually I only have to wait like 30 seconds tops for players to get quick matched in with me. I literally did all my dishes and still nobody.. I also did a load of laundry a little and same thing, no teammates. Crossplay is on too
Me and my buddy try to get an sos out for anyone to join us on a operation. And no one didn't bothered joining up on us. Did one more operation before bed. No one joined up either. And there's only a total of 147,000+ helldivers that were active, and this was last night. The boycott is real man. People are extremely pissed.
Sony got hacked and lost 72 million account info's and Sony wants us to trust them with our info for the second time 🙃
If this was supposed to happen earlier on, they should’ve canned it when they realized this game is monumental success for PS.
That would require them to have just the tiniest bit of consequence thinking, which they seem to be lacking at the moment.
Yeah no, people checked the agreements from cached files.
They lied. Retroactively altered the agreement and tried gaslighting us.
I would have issued a refund if I knew it wasn't optional.
FYI Shooting the tail of a charger is just an ammo dump. There's a ton of weapons and strategems that can quickly dispose off a charger
They still want the data! Personal Data worth so much these days. Probably pays even more then the game will earn.
What data would that be? You only need date of birth, location and email to create a PSN-account, it's not as if they somehow magically get access to steam's database
@@HungryLoki exactly that’s what they want… your personal data. You are clearly not aware.
I was not expecting him to apologize. And what he wrote actually sounded genuine. Doesn't change anything about the situation, but good to see not all are like this baskinator thing.
Customer service 2/10
Online store 10/10
This is the problem.
You have my respect for posting further context from Spitz. Almost no one is doing that.
Spitz is still an ass.
So what about those of us who play on Steam and don't even have a Playstation or a PSN account? Are we just screwed?
Class action lawsuit vs SONY.
Forcing PC people to hook in to console eco-systems is wrong, they made a choice when they bought PC not console, no words change that.
keep up the good work bro! theses updates with the discord chat are nice
So if we don’t sign up we lose the game AND no refund?
Man threatening a man over a video game is insanity but I will admit those suits at Sony think they are god or something I deleted the game an im on psn just cause im sick of these fucking companies trying to take advantage of us like Ubisoft ea etc sony been treating players like shit it’s fucked up we as players need to take a fucking stand or they will just keep doing it
What armor is that in the thumbnail?
Whats the best place to get people who play the game? The discord for hd2 you cant even post sometimes
No what it means is they want u to get a ps plus account to play and data mining
Sony needs to back track and FAST!!! The are killing their golden goose.
As a ps5 player i still think its fking stupid, you can't just out of nowhere impose this! i get thats its in contract but no one on earth reads that, makes me think of south park humain ipod 🤣🤣🤣
lvl57 SES Lady of Mercy signing off.
SES Arbiter of Morality out.
Godspeed, helldivers. Godspeed. o7
Time for all Helldivers to come together
Sony has neither soul nor honor for this
I’m on steam and it has never prompted me to link nor can I find where😂 and I do already have an psn account
Because it asked you for that option when the game came out on day one the reason you don’t see it now because you got it later on
@@sogondesnuts780 so they need to enable it again?
@@jackiebartolo235 the devs said it was bugged when the game first released I had no problem linking so they took it out some time after release and now Sony wants to try to force it onto others unless they back out
@@sogondesnuts780 yeah I guess I’m just worried coz I’m on holiday soon and won’t have access worried I maybe be locked out if I don’t
Even with a bribe like getting reward for doing it, I will not make a PSN account.
FAQ does not mention any ongoing litigation.
this is some escape from tarkov level bullshit
I am not going to focus on spitz. Focus on Sony CEO.
You just breezed over the region locking question.
At best the answer given was a non-answer. At worst they are implying that you lie about your residence and to do something illegal.
they didn't give me a refund... even though it changed policy.
The "policy" was there in the beginning but was deferred initially.
Same.
@@LazyGryphon yes sir
Spitz didn't seem to realize that actually encouraging Stratagem: Steam Review Bomb creates friendly fire casualties at Arrowhead. That is unfortunate. Certainly is getting publicity about the situation...
Sony doesn't get to pull the captive audience card with the PC crowd. If they follow through I'll be requesting a refund and checking other options (legal, etc.) if that fails; I've got a lot of friends who play and I want to be on top of it if I can get mine or my buddies' money back.
Note: I haven't looked into anything yet. For all I know, a legal route was waived when I read a ToS or something. It's the thought that counts.
I believe Arrowhead really tries to do right by us Helldivers, gamers and SuperEarth. I hope for a miracle that benefit us and Arrowhead.
How Sony could make this work is if you link your steam to a PSN account you can do Crossplay but if you dont your stuck playing with only other PC players
The fact sony didn't address that they are going to brick people's games if people don't bend the knee to them or see an issue with that at all in their faq I'd unsurprising but still disappointing
And if you feel its okay to scan you face to sony, then fine, they will ask you to do that to make an account
I think Spitz was genuine in the part where he said that he let it get under his skin and he snapped. He's the community manager. Of course he gets the heat, and he gets heat that he's not really in a position to deal with. He tells us what he knows and what he's able. Spitz's reaction was not good, because when you're Community manager, you are the forward face of the company online. People's impressions of the company come from community managers. It's understandable, he's only human, but still. Gotta keep things professional.
We gave spitz multiple chances to correct their snide behavior, but this?! Immediately fired.
3 doesn't answer me shit
I do not travel, study or work in a country that doesn`t have PSN but i LIVE IN IT, soo what should i do ?????
i cant create a account in different country because that would be against PSN TOS and my acc would get banned still
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video says its possible but that would be for only those who live in country with PSN they can still sign in if they are in different country which doesn`t have PSN, so in the end it still doesn`t answer shit to me.
well i guess i have to move to country with PSN and then i can move back to a country without PSN
Fire Spitz! Then steam should allow refunds for anyone for the next week.
Only for those in regions that can't access it would make more sense.
Unpopular opinion: I like spitz. He's just doing his job and telling it how it is. I don't think anyone should lose their job for delivering a message, it was his higher ups that made the decision, he was just the messenger. Dudes not making any decisions
@@joshizflyI generally agree. But he also pokes the bear at the wrong times. I think he should just fall back and let shit cool down.
Why is no one asking why steam was happy to sell the game into counties that that couldn't use PSN tell me they didn't know
@@notdeadyet8150 how tf is this steam's problem? Are they supposed to monitor all the bs other companies are up to? Don't shift the blame from Sony
You need to read that section about people registering PSN accounts from places where PSN is not available again because it DOES NOT say it's possible to do it if you live there. It says that if your are, for example, and American citizen who is in China for the next month traveling or on business or studying you can register using the country you actually live in meaning the USA. it does not in any way fix the problem raised about people who live in those countries who purchased the game on steam and now are forced to make a PSN account.
Whats worse is that steam users each have a unique number id behind their profiles which games can view when you connect, thats how ban systems work on other 3rd party games when there are more than 1 user(s) with the same name. If they dont allow cross platform progression, then this is just sony being power hungry and greedy
Well they wanted democracy and they got it. Vote with your wallet soldiers!
Honestly he mentioned making a cosmetic reward for linking accounts. That's probably the solution. Sony gets their data and shiny numbers from people who don't care, and the people who do care can just forgo those rewards.
Watch as Spitz do this again in a few months lmao, he did this twice so far
I will sign that shit because i love the game but that PSN account not available in my country:)) so this mean my journey end here, is has been an honor to fight alongside you comrades
I'll be moving on, DRG has a new season coming out
Spitz isn’t even a HD2 fan I bet, if he was he’d be already onboard with the fan base from the jump
Was having too much fun i forgot about corporate greed
The technical issue was they didn’t think the game was going to get as big as it did. Once it got big the Sony people did what they do best, ruin things.
Honestly it doesn't affect me in any way, so I genuinely don't care. Also, I like Spitz, he owned his dickness lol
they say no matter your location you can make a psn account and do it. this is a lie. i dont know how they are still posting false infomation.
This potential player exodus might give Starship Troopers: Extinction a second wind ;)
I do feel for Spitz. He's back into a corner by Sony grabbing him by the sack and then the player community beating him with 2x4's 😂
Here's an idea. What if Sony made the PSN so fun, safe, and practical that instead of _forcing_ people to join, they'd _want_ to join?
this issue won’t affect me in any way but i hope the Steam user-base make enough noise to change Sony’s approach.
after many years of dealing with them i warn you that customer service is their Achilles’ Heel
Got a Sony ad on this video
The only thing that would even have me CONSIDER doing a PSN link is the option of cross account progression, and they can't even do that. What a joke.
Are the refunds going through even with more than 2 hours of play? This is BS and seems like it should count like at the start where refunds were encouraged because the servers didnt work
Mine was denied.
Im still unable to link it
ooh wow, cosmetic award for the link to feel good about themselves...
well look at us non-psn covered countries.. might as well have a double refund which sounds fair enough.
I hope Arrowhead/Sony wasn’t counting on future Warbond sales being good 😂
I just think it is pretty much all Sonys fault and people need to be blaming Sony more than arrowhead, I think arrowhead is getting a lot of backlash over something they had little to no control over, yes this stuff is outrageous, sucks, and really just horrible but Sony I think is the one that needs to be blamed for it. I do see people blaming Sony but I still see a lot of people blaming arrowhead as well.
This is the first time for me to feel like I am having a nigthmare while awake, I'm from a country that you can't make psn acc. This is just sad.
Spitz went beyond the limits of a CM. You should never felt it personal and he did it. Rookie move
i did play with someone throwing infinite grenades... lol
Time for AH to Pull a Destiny and Buy Publishing rights away from SONY
If PSN servers go down, will I still be able to play on Steam?
the annoying intro sound is way louder than your monotone vocals. please adjust basic volume levels during production