Just as a possible quick correction Simucube isn't the only supplier of compatible wireless wheels, both Ascher Racing and Cube Controls supply Simucube compatible wireless wheels. That said I'd much prefer that the wireless wheels used standard Bluetooth as opposed to the Simucube proprietary bluetooth connection as this would allow the wheels to work with any wheelbase rather than just Simucube - I have 3 wireless wheels that'll become junk if I ever decide to switch.
It's till better than many other wheelbases, that won't even work if a "compatible" wheel (or another middle piece) isn't attached to the base. The selection of wheels and buttonboxes tend to be on the expensive side, but then it's not the cheapast base either so why ruin it with a flexing wheel.
@@Nrde I think my main complaint is that I've paid the best part of 800 euros/dollars/pounds for a quality third party wheel rim that's useless on anything other than Simucube. That means I have over 2000 euros/dollars/pounds worth of rims that are trash if I ever move to another brand of DD.
Bluetooth has typically more latency (it certainly has with audio) and the wheels need to be charged regularly. My Ascher F28-SC still has full battery even I've bought it in March 2021 and many many times I forgot to turn it off like yesterday.
@@slaphead90 luckily quality always keeps it's value well. I mean if you are not using it doesn't mean it's worthless. But of course you are welcome to buy BT connected wheels, there's reasons they haven't, at least yet, become popular.
Had my pro for years, total beast of a wheel base. Sim Racing Bay has some wireless comparable wheels available. Thank for the review, with all the wheel bases releasing into the market I think this base gets overlooked, but is the standard all are judged by
I wouldn't want to go trucking in ETS2 or ATS with 2250 degrees of rotation and having to worry about a cable. That's the reason I went for a DD2 instead myself. If I only did sim racing and sim racing only than that's not so much a concern, but I like to relax now and again too.
@@LogiForce86 You know you can get wireless button plates from Simracing Bay and Ascher right? And for trucking, I assume you don't have many buttons mounted on the steering wheel. If you are using a barebones rim with SC2 you can get just the QR, compared to the Podium Hub on Fanatec. Simucube also sells wireless modules for DIY wheel solutions, so maybe I will even spend that 30€ so I can make wireless DIY rims. Not knocking your decision but I left the Fanatec ecosystem (I had CSW 2.5, Universal Hub and V3 pedals) because I hated the QR, build quality and inability to make DIY rims w/o having to spend 200€ every time for Podium Hub or adding another QR on top of the Podium Hub. So I decided to save up a bit extra for the SC2 Pro.
good overview, been using a pro for couple years myself and yeh ive never even considered anything else. i do kind of disagree about the QR though, its really not that slow, you can get a wheel off inside 5 seconds if you are strong enough to pull the pin in one movement which i can, another wheel on and pin in inside 5 seconds if you have the wheel at the ready, i think a 10 second wheel change is not that slow, what slows it down is the friction ofcourse but thats not a major cost to pay for the rigidity, the wheelside and motor side QR couldn't be a tighter tolerance if they tried... other QR's on the market are easier because the tolerances are simply wider. i do like the look of the asetek version of this QR though, it does look to be an improvement especially if they keep the rigidity exactly the same, i have my doubts though, nothing that easy to take on and off is a super tight fit but ill wait and see on that.
How does it feel to race with a USB tethered wheel compared to wireless? does it tug at or dampen the wheel much, or can you tell a difference in wheel feel? I have an SC2 Pro and a wireless Simucube Tahko wheel and absolutely love it, but not sure if I'll get another wireless wheel or a USB wheel with telemetry displays.
How do you shop for 3rd party wheels (with USB)? I have a Cammus wheelbase and I want to make sure I research the F1 wheels that I could use with my base and make an informed decision based on my budget. Have you made a video on this topic already?
It's really about the quick release that you would need to use. Quite a few makers have them out there. You have to make sure the QR size matches the wheelbase and wheel
I would be interested to know your unbiased opinion of it versus the Accuforce, is it really worth the upgrade and how is it at representing road texture in comparison to the Accuforce. I have an Accuforce and I've been pondering on upgrading for a while to this wheel base. After ALOT of tweaking (and ultimately ditching auto tune) I have AF profiles that I'm very happy with. Also since I have a stack of custom wheels with the AF quick release, could I use the AF QR on this wheel base?
I was using the AF for over 5 years and SC2 Pro since 2020. The switch is almost as overwhelming as from beltdrive to DD in terms of power and I'm clearly faster with the SC2 Pro especially because it delivers more self-aligning torque to self-correct and you feel the limit a bit better. The road-texure was lacking quite a bit, but got improved with the latest firmware. The SC2 Pro can be a bit too much and I also can recommend the VRS DFP which delivers a bit more moderate spikes without loosing torque during corners. I was using the AF at 90-100% strength and keep the AF still at 16-17 Nm maximum, so the Sport should already be a huge upgrade in terms of smoothness (servo vs stepper) and torque-overhead.
@@Leynad778 I second this, going from the accuforce to the sc2 was like going from belt to DD once more. The slew rate is much quicker and the wheelbase is smoother and snappier in general. No regrets getting it.
I'm using it with a Thrustmaster R383 Sparco wheel,adapted to be standalone,that I previously had mounted into a Tspc racer. The wrap around cable is fine,as long as you manage it the correct way. But... don't use a wrap around cable wheel,if you play drift sims...
@@blackmac1970 i know its 3 months late but i think these guys are looking at the cable through rose tinted glasses, i can tell you the cable can for sure be annoying, especially if you lose control of the wheel in a crash and the cable unwraps and goes a little wild on you its not always smooth sailing getting straight back to racing as you might need to get that cable right again. no such issues with wireless wheels, i will say however owning both i still prefer wired because i feel like its 100 percent reliable, ive had a couple wireless wheels, ascher ones to be precise and found that a mis shift here or there can happen and it has you questioning if it was just you or the wireless nature, it just doesn't happen with a wire. im sure somebody will say im routing my cable wrong, but im not, been doing this for years.
As a Sc2 Sport owner,I can say that you nailed it. I can't describe better than this,that wheelbase. Great video!
Haha, you badly want to receive a active pedal set do you? Quickly uploading the sc review😂
Just as a possible quick correction Simucube isn't the only supplier of compatible wireless wheels, both Ascher Racing and Cube Controls supply Simucube compatible wireless wheels.
That said I'd much prefer that the wireless wheels used standard Bluetooth as opposed to the Simucube proprietary bluetooth connection as this would allow the wheels to work with any wheelbase rather than just Simucube - I have 3 wireless wheels that'll become junk if I ever decide to switch.
It's till better than many other wheelbases, that won't even work if a "compatible" wheel (or another middle piece) isn't attached to the base. The selection of wheels and buttonboxes tend to be on the expensive side, but then it's not the cheapast base either so why ruin it with a flexing wheel.
@@Nrde I think my main complaint is that I've paid the best part of 800 euros/dollars/pounds for a quality third party wheel rim that's useless on anything other than Simucube. That means I have over 2000 euros/dollars/pounds worth of rims that are trash if I ever move to another brand of DD.
Bluetooth has typically more latency (it certainly has with audio) and the wheels need to be charged regularly. My Ascher F28-SC still has full battery even I've bought it in March 2021 and many many times I forgot to turn it off like yesterday.
@@Leynad778 Simucube uses the Bluetooth LE protocol for their connection. It is however altered just enough to make it proprietary.
@@slaphead90 luckily quality always keeps it's value well. I mean if you are not using it doesn't mean it's worthless.
But of course you are welcome to buy BT connected wheels, there's reasons they haven't, at least yet, become popular.
Had my pro for years, total beast of a wheel base. Sim Racing Bay has some wireless comparable wheels available. Thank for the review, with all the wheel bases releasing into the market I think this base gets overlooked, but is the standard all are judged by
I wouldn't want to go trucking in ETS2 or ATS with 2250 degrees of rotation and having to worry about a cable. That's the reason I went for a DD2 instead myself. If I only did sim racing and sim racing only than that's not so much a concern, but I like to relax now and again too.
@@LogiForce86 You know you can get wireless button plates from Simracing Bay and Ascher right? And for trucking, I assume you don't have many buttons mounted on the steering wheel. If you are using a barebones rim with SC2 you can get just the QR, compared to the Podium Hub on Fanatec. Simucube also sells wireless modules for DIY wheel solutions, so maybe I will even spend that 30€ so I can make wireless DIY rims.
Not knocking your decision but I left the Fanatec ecosystem (I had CSW 2.5, Universal Hub and V3 pedals) because I hated the QR, build quality and inability to make DIY rims w/o having to spend 200€ every time for Podium Hub or adding another QR on top of the Podium Hub. So I decided to save up a bit extra for the SC2 Pro.
I'm in love with mine its fantastic and I cant wait for their pedals to be released soon I will buy it straight away
Did you buy them?
You still have your kidneys?
@@tkdmp5698 yeah i got them haha
I LOVE the Pro, high quality wheelbase!
good overview, been using a pro for couple years myself and yeh ive never even considered anything else. i do kind of disagree about the QR though, its really not that slow, you can get a wheel off inside 5 seconds if you are strong enough to pull the pin in one movement which i can, another wheel on and pin in inside 5 seconds if you have the wheel at the ready, i think a 10 second wheel change is not that slow, what slows it down is the friction ofcourse but thats not a major cost to pay for the rigidity, the wheelside and motor side QR couldn't be a tighter tolerance if they tried... other QR's on the market are easier because the tolerances are simply wider.
i do like the look of the asetek version of this QR though, it does look to be an improvement especially if they keep the rigidity exactly the same, i have my doubts though, nothing that easy to take on and off is a super tight fit but ill wait and see on that.
Ahhh cant wait. Mine is gone arrive tomorrow. Stepped up from a Fanatec DD
@otisb.driftwood7106 And you like it SC2 PRO over DD1/2 ?
@@bmwM3M5M6 Simucube 💪🏽simply amazing
@@bmwM3M5M6 would like to know as well lol
@@RabbitConfirmed But nobody answers 😄
@@bmwM3M5M6 Maybe they're all busy playing with their SimuCube?👀 xD
How does it feel to race with a USB tethered wheel compared to wireless? does it tug at or dampen the wheel much, or can you tell a difference in wheel feel?
I have an SC2 Pro and a wireless Simucube Tahko wheel and absolutely love it, but not sure if I'll get another wireless wheel or a USB wheel with telemetry displays.
HI Simpit is the new one 17nm?
How do you shop for 3rd party wheels (with USB)? I have a Cammus wheelbase and I want to make sure I research the F1 wheels that I could use with my base and make an informed decision based on my budget. Have you made a video on this topic already?
It's really about the quick release that you would need to use. Quite a few makers have them out there. You have to make sure the QR size matches the wheelbase and wheel
I would be interested to know your unbiased opinion of it versus the Accuforce, is it really worth the upgrade and how is it at representing road texture in comparison to the Accuforce. I have an Accuforce and I've been pondering on upgrading for a while to this wheel base. After ALOT of tweaking (and ultimately ditching auto tune) I have AF profiles that I'm very happy with. Also since I have a stack of custom wheels with the AF quick release, could I use the AF QR on this wheel base?
I was using the AF for over 5 years and SC2 Pro since 2020. The switch is almost as overwhelming as from beltdrive to DD in terms of power and I'm clearly faster with the SC2 Pro especially because it delivers more self-aligning torque to self-correct and you feel the limit a bit better. The road-texure was lacking quite a bit, but got improved with the latest firmware. The SC2 Pro can be a bit too much and I also can recommend the VRS DFP which delivers a bit more moderate spikes without loosing torque during corners. I was using the AF at 90-100% strength and keep the AF still at 16-17 Nm maximum, so the Sport should already be a huge upgrade in terms of smoothness (servo vs stepper) and torque-overhead.
@@Leynad778 I second this, going from the accuforce to the sc2 was like going from belt to DD once more. The slew rate is much quicker and the wheelbase is smoother and snappier in general. No regrets getting it.
You will need an adapter to use AF style QR. Check out Simracingbay.
@@Theoloop Good info. Thanks.
@@Leynad778 Good info. Thanks.
How annoying is the wrap around cable? Do you notice it while driving?
No
Never
I'm using it with a Thrustmaster R383 Sparco wheel,adapted to be standalone,that I previously had mounted into a Tspc racer. The wrap around cable is fine,as long as you manage it the correct way.
But... don't use a wrap around cable wheel,if you play drift sims...
Thanks for the replies.
@@blackmac1970 i know its 3 months late but i think these guys are looking at the cable through rose tinted glasses, i can tell you the cable can for sure be annoying, especially if you lose control of the wheel in a crash and the cable unwraps and goes a little wild on you its not always smooth sailing getting straight back to racing as you might need to get that cable right again. no such issues with wireless wheels, i will say however owning both i still prefer wired because i feel like its 100 percent reliable, ive had a couple wireless wheels, ascher ones to be precise and found that a mis shift here or there can happen and it has you questioning if it was just you or the wireless nature, it just doesn't happen with a wire.
im sure somebody will say im routing my cable wrong, but im not, been doing this for years.
Does anyone know the slew rate Difference between sc pro and vrs directforce