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Maho CNC Conversion: THE MOVIE!!
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- Опубликовано: 17 авг 2024
- Get that popcorn ready because It's finally here!
The Maho milling machine conversion all the kids are talking about!
Watch the whole thing... or... skip to the section you're interested in:
00:00 video starts here
00:51 video REALLY starts here
02:31 axis conversion overview
08:20 converted performance (rapids & speeds)
10:56 machine health & general inspection (geometric)
16:08 new CNC control add-ons
17:40 3-axis MPG
19:18 electronic tool setter
21:13 control/electrical cabinet (drives, VFD, hydraulics, oiler, relays, etc.)
23:40 servo drives wiring & I/O
24:45 AC Servos & Drives (Leadshine)
26:16 EtherCAT AC servo pricing & kits
27:22 Element-CNC industrial control PC
27:36 KINGSTAR realtime motion control
30:32 Open-Loop vs Closed-Loop for dummies, by dummies
34:34 Servo Tuning for dummies, by dummies
48:00 the end?
Check out RotarySMP's channel here:
/ rotarysmp
Music used in this video:
Bolereando - Quincas Moreira
I think you're underestimating how dedicated your fans are when saying only 3 of us are going to watch the video completely! Personally I enjoy longer formats :)
It gives him more watch time when I loop the videos on repeat as I fall asleep, so soothing and relaxing... (I always see them at least once with my eyes open to enjoy them properly don’t worry)
3 of us ? That'll be
X
Y
and Z.
@@millomweb A joins the chat. The round axe is entered.
@@SamTehSquirrel so glad it's not just me!
Yeah, now there are FIVE people.
"I forgot to wet the sponge" - This Old Tony letting us know right off the bat that he takes his humor like he takes his coffee: dark, sightly burnt, and smelling of ozone.
I watched that movie for the first time like a week ago
Do I smell bacon?
I didn't recognize the reference at first. For people who didn't see the movie, it is called "The Green Mile"
I wonder if he's as big a fan of moon pies as I am.
Aww man
This Old Tony channel: The only videos on youtube I rewind, not fast forward.
It's rewind time
Personally, I'd change out the gravel in the " Y" ballscrew. I tend to like smooth river pebbles over crushed granite.
Yes!!!!! The long awaited bromance movie between a pair of hands and their german cnc mill!!!
I am sooooooo excited!!!
It always worries me when you only see one hand, is it Jelious of the Maho?.
Im pretty sure the other is doing nefarious things like running underground lathe fights. I've yet to find any information as to what his third hand does while not on screen.
Tony - Incredible that you could do a 48-minute video, all in one breath!
I don't 'do' CNC, or have much understanding of electronic control systems, but I love your presentation style so much that it's a joy to watch you carefully explain the 'intimate details' of these systems.
Also, hats off to you for the beautiful, almost magic lighting through the whole video!
Indeed, the lighting is reminiscent of the style of Johannes Vermeer.
@@spehropefhany I'd say Rembrant
@@slonismo i.imgur.com/cdapPgG.jpg You might be right.
I don't know if I want to watch this. movies made from series are never quite right. Different actors, different machines, sexy but dingy hands, and fancy sweaters withOUT elbow pads.
What lighting? I didn’t notice any “lighting”.
Just dropping some words of appreciation for your editing.
You really learned to nail the balance between entertaining and informative in the DIY sector 🎉
This Old Tony: "Holy smokes, by the time I'm through this video it'll be."
This Old Disembodied Tony:"48 MINUTES LONG"
Kudos to Tony, for the very excellent attention to lack of detail. So many details skillfully ignored or mangled into inversion. A true luminary admidst the midnight land of 40W bulbs. ;)
We need an autopsy on the bearing when you swap it out.
Destruction of the ballnut usually means a displeased spouse.
@@WhereWhatHuh Ouch! I felt that...
As someone who just had surgery on one ballnut, I don't want to see that.
It looked to me like it was the hose rubbing against the ribbed wire protector making that crunchy noise. You can see the wear marks on it too. @5:28.
I don't know if it's just the vid, but the screw mount on the end looks low, ie, not aligned with the others. You can imagine the force on the screw when it gets to the end and that mount isn't inline with the others.
FORTY EIGHT MINUTES! THIS IS A NOT A DRILL, I REPEAT, THIS IS NOT A DRILL!
It's a mill, duh
lol cute.
Spoiler alert: a drill makes a cameo appearance.
Your dad jokes are awesome
@@Andrewlang90 I got that one from ToT
But theres a drill in the mill.
I'm a controls engineer. Loop tuning was always explained to me in a very hand wavy way, and the more I read about, learn and try different loops, the more I realize it is all black magic.
The only way to understand it really is to do the maths, I think. Laplace transform all the way. I don't think it's really useful in practice though, I guess, but only then could I really understand it (beyond regular PID (even though PID tuning is still a little black magic))
Your 1 of 2 people that make machining funny and that's real talent! It's 3:14am on the north east right now and I'm sitting in the dark giggling out loud after a horse shit day! Thank you for all these years of entertaining me!
Thanks a lot for the shout out Tony. Another great video.You have put a lot into that Maho.
I subbed 👍
"Dentists won't judge."
Yeah they will. They say they don't but they do, they always do.
9/10 dentists agree with this statement
of course I floss my teeth twice a day?
Judging is required by the hippocratic oath
Dentistry doesn't seem like It would be so divisive but have you ever noticed that you can never get all of them to agree?
yeah, theyre human
When is the “Maho maho man” t-shirt design coming out?
Might I also suggest "THE Maho Man"... OOOOOH YYYYYEEEEAAAAAAH
Maybe there's licensing problems because of The Village People's seminal 1978 album, "Maho Man".
🎵 I want to buy some Maho merch! Ma-Ho, Ma-Ho Merch... 🎶
(Though if I'm totally honest, I thought the whole "I need a hero" thing was my personal fav... from the vid where he's machining Johnny 5's antenna. I dunno why, even, but I still giggle every time I think about it.)
I would buy that t-shart
@@randomconsumer4494 Bttbb1gd 2111y
Honestly Tony, hearing you find your voice, grow more comfortable in your videos, and learning so much from you, has been awesome. :D
I have a confession. I've been watching ToT reruns the last few weeks and lovin it. Tons of laughs and some tears. So excited about this new 48 minute video, I'm drinking my diner with the door locked. Kids are banging on the door and the wife is crying, but I don't care.
They probably just wanna watch too.
Cruel bastards, how come they attempt to distract you from watching TOT!
Have you got a gun? If so, use it to wedge the door closed (just in case).
The wife, the kids ... always so needy!
Damnit, when are we going to get another video, I can't live without my TOT infotainment.
The first actual laugh out loud was the length of the "I hesitate to say this"
it was the needle drop just before it that got me!
Gotta say, your videos are the most interesting videos I watch. The combination of dad humor, amazing technical detail and well-shot segments is killer. I look forward to seeing the Maho eventually become sentient as well as seeing you take on the challenge of making precision ball bearings...yes, that's a double dog dare!
"The computer tells what the drive to do and the drive tells what the stepper to do."
I love you, This Old Tony.
I'm a literal control systems engineer, who works in Open/Closed loop land all day every day.
And that was a better explanation than anyone has ever given about the subject than in industry!
AKA feedback.
You might say his explanation was _bumpless_
I guess sometimes it's better to have practical knowledge about something instead of an academic degree.
@@jawadibrahim2367 Not sometimes but always.
@@millomweb I do agree with you completely, but sadly the local job market only caters to people with academic degrees in specific fields.
When TOT uploads you watch. No skipping, no jumping, no blinking. You sit there and enjoy. No other choice.
Hi Tony! Thank you for mentioning our company (Automation Technology Inc.) in your video. We do have these kits available for anyone interested! Again, great job on the video -- very insightful and detailed!
Most RUclips build explain videos make me feel like "I could do that", this series makes me think I definitely could not do that.
Yea, it’s kind of an overview of all the different systems and he connects all of the dots. Trouble is there’s a lot more dots in there if you look at the fine print!
“This is a long video, feel free to skip around”
What? Why would anyone do that? It's a this old tony video, everyone knows you cannot skip
If he can time travel, so can we.
Agreed!
Unless it's skippity-hopping, that would be encouraged.
you can skip backward though :p
Can't wait for the machine to light up and verbally say " Good Morning Tony" went he steps into the room.
2 reasons (3 fingers), point number "b". I truly appreciate how smooth he dumbs around.
If you can appreciate This Old Tony, check out AvE! His command of the English language is staggering!
Your freaking cut-away visuals are the best freaking part of these videos. The subtlety and humor is fantastic.
"I hesitate to share this..." omg tony. i died. well played.
My wife *really* loathes Tony for introducing this one to our household.
This Old Tony's movie release is a masterpiece. Two mills up.
Two thumb screws up
@@cameronknowles6267 Why did you summon me ?
Tony, can you please do a garage tour one day, we don't care if it's messy we want to see the interesting things 😉.
The problem with that is his shop is endless and is actually in a void giving him the ability to manipulate it at will notice that we can never see a background it's not coincidence or what some heretics would call "camera placement" it's because all that exists is what tony wants to exist.
+1
I had a similar welding experience yesterday. I must preface this by saying that it was late in the day, I was tired and the daylight was dimming. I found this piece of scrap metal that looked like mild steel. Dark grey slag and a little rust from the scrap pile. I cut it, no sparks. That's weird I thought. "let's just get this tacked in before the sun goes down" I said to myself. I start to tack it, It lights up real bright and won't' take a weld. "Enough of this nonsense, I'll deal with this tomorrow." In the light of day, the day after, it turned out to be brass! I never thought that could happen. How did that get into my scrap pile. Live and learn.
Tony: "this is a long video"
Me after seeing a 7 hours Morrowind video analysis on youtube: "sure it is, tony, sure it is"
33:40 "I don't know why I'm opening this"..."I'm not opening this"...priceless!
This Old Movie: Revenge of the Maho. Can't wait for the sequel.
This Old Movie 2: 2 Old 2 Tony
Avoid the prequels though. Just four hours of trade negotiations between TOT and second hand machine suppliers
I'm eagerly awaiting the sequel trilogy in 38 years consisting of "The Maho Awakens", "The Last Maho" and "The Rise Of Maho"
Me: There’s a new video out by Tony that’s 48 minutes long. I’ll be busy today watching it 3 or 4 times.
Wife: Wow. What’s it about?
Me: Retirement planning.
G G, LoL!
🤣🤣🤣🤣
I can only sit here, shake my head and fail to understand how on earth you are doing all this, produce video and still do anything else. You sure taught yourself things like crazy.
I’ve been waiting my whole life for the “ToT The Movie” to finally be made, and I am complete. Well, now I am waiting for the sequel...
If only you had a time-traveling lathe...You could have already watched it, like I have. Pro Tip: ALWAYS spring for the time-traveling option when buying a lathe.
Damn it Tony. I am a Dentist, and I do recommend that everyone see the whole video. Great work. As always.
Today i happened to walk by a machine tool shop. I paused and stared at the lathes, bandsaws and mills like a kid at the candy store. Thanks for making me love these things.
I'm a complete novice and most of what you say is above my pay grade. But you have an addictive way of explaining things that compels me to watch every video you release multiple times. So well done TOT you steal a lot of my RUclips surfing time but wouldn't have it any other way. Keep doing whatever you are doing (don't fully understand it but it looks and sounds impressive) And I look forward to the next video, whatever the subject matter is.
Here I was thinking “Yea, but what is the paint code?” And lo, you even answered that!
Tony, I'm an engineer at an oil and gas plant. Whenever I troubleshoot something interesting enough to be worth explaining to the Operations team, I draft and email going over the details. There are dad jokes, weird analogies, and funny pictures. Thank you for teaching so much in the way that you do, and please know that it's loved enough that some of us try to emulate your style. Keep it up, sir.
I know I'm not the only one: more longer videos, please!
Your presentation of the information is amusing and helpful. I am always eagerly awaiting a new TOT video.
Love how in the best MST3K style, OT lets some jokes sneak through without holding the joke long enough to ensure everyone got the joke. A true master at his craft.
This old tony is the only RUclips channel I watch that I could quite happily watch for 40 minutes non stop
So so true. You think you like a channel until they make longer uploads. TOT passes the 40 minute test
Not only that. But being able to watch it at 1x speed.
Not only that, but watching them on repeat for 40 minutes straight...
I was gonna say another channel I would watch for that long, but I can’t watch any of those videos more than once... I’ve caught myself binging on these videos every night for probably a total of 6 months now over the last year or so. The rewatchability is amazing, even when I can speak the words before he says them it is still entertaining.
@@SamTehSquirrel i think this is something else. You need the TOT equivalent of AA...
Why must you do this to my sleep schedule, Tony?!
Jk I don't have one, keep it up!
Please make me one! I will bake you cookies even!
I know, right? I was walking out the door to work, but then I was 48 minutes late..
@@BrilliantDesignOnline god thats the worst feeling in the world. thinking your doing good and will be early then you look at the clock and work started 30 mins ago and instant panic ensues.
@@xati5135 Arrive late...Boss: "You're FIRED!" "But I was watching This Old Tony Maho CNC Conversion: THE MOVIE!!"
Boss: "well OK, we'll let it slide.."
I watch his videos to sleep, so I'm glad Tony does this to my sleep schedule
Not much people can do a fourty eight minute RUclips video that is a) awesome b) not boring. Great as always! Had a blast.
I've never used, seen, touched, heard or smelled a CNC machine nor do I plan to do any of those at any point. But the sheer joy of watching This Old Tony being This Old Tony has taught me a lot more about CNCs than I'll ever need... I guess you could say my cup is now half full, I suppose.
FYI: The nameplate of the oiler mentions in german: "Schematic on the inside" :-)
Why wouldn't the Germans just say so it in plain English, then!?
@@grumblycurmudgeon for the same reason your french didn't parse well in this comment section 🤣
@@brag0001 Oooof, Canadian french or French french?
@@wobblysauce probably any kind, like in Mississippi (ruclips.net/video/0968f0VWvd8/видео.html or ruclips.net/video/Rhj4sJnrF6A/видео.html, which is the closest I got).... ;-)
As they say in the old country, "if English was good enough for Jesus, then it is good enough for the Germans"!
48 minutes of TOT!! Please enjoy it and don't skip around it's a late Christmas
Or an early early one
I know right!!!
Knowing tony it is likely late
This is how i felt. My kids had to wait because I was giving myself this pleasure.
It's an early one 6 days for Christmas now😂
"...but it can become a rabbit hole if you keep thinkin' you could just get a little bit better." Truer words never spoken!
This is the only channel in RUclips where I never skip forward
thanks for the timestamps, this way i can watch it in the true way: randomized in reverse with 2x speed
I’m pretty sure TOTs whole library can be summed up with “anyway, short story long”
Genuinely one of the best description of closed control loops, I wish I had seen this earlier. When I was diving deep into it a few months back for a servomotor project, all I could find was way too high level explanations and block diagrams showing the frequency domain equivalents. Went through page after page of wikipedia, going back and forth from the control theory page to dozens of other pages it referenced, spending many hours learning about non-important contextual information, just to learn that it means it has a sensor that is compared against the input and thats how it knows where it is and how to get to where it wants to go. So about 10 seconds of your explanation was more valuable than hours of articles.
Industrial electrician sees this and is beyond extremely impressed.
Same guy looks at that panel and is utterly horrified! Get it sorted out man!
Great channel definitely subscribing, just promise never to show me in there again!
When I heard him say "48 minutes" I was like "wow, it's going to be a long one! Only to realize there was like 15 min left and the rest had been so entertaining I didn't realize the length.
"For our metric friends..." lmfao, made my day. Time 8:40
I'm one of these metric friends, 10 fingers! It always weirds me out that people in the Imperialist United States have 12.
GREAT TO HAVE YOU BACK, GREAT JOB EXPLAINING ALL THAT, GREAT VIDEO, TELL ALL THE FAMILY HELLO... [ NOW LET'S GO TO WORK... ]
I’m a dentist and I disagree with your introductory statement... It’s 10/10 dentists.
The Green mile reference sounds like something I would say and no one would get it (crickets)
Dangit, you beat me by 11 minutes!
30 sec in, and i had to look for this comment..😂
@@egzbel4400 Same
I don’t get it, what did TOT say to what reference?
@@liamjerkins7259 it’s what they say when they are about electrocute people🙈🙈
Awesome Tony 🚀
Andi, du auch hier? 😂
Überrascht mich jetzt nicht wirklich. 😁
Servus!
💎🤲🚀🌑
Irgendwie erwartet unerwartet. Hab die ganze Zeit die Paste di Nocciola genascht 😅... Hätte mir trotzdem klar sein müssen, dass du Maschinenfetischist hier auch zusachaust 😁😁😁
@@legnumracermitsufan7626 Where's Ave when you need him?
Ouh mann, Andi hätt ich jetzt hier nicht erwartet. Aber wunderts einen? 😄
*11:33** FYI: The hesitation was 9.5 seconds long.*
My man here doing the Lord's work
@@paquebot_T6 😂
Now we need to know the distance of the hesitation so then can calculate Tony's hesitation travel speed.
I grew up near a Maho-plant! Lots of childhood-friends working there, their products are amazing
11:39 “I hesitate to share this...” my internet cut out at the exact perfect moment lmao
No it didn't
Watch his hand, your internet didn't cut out.
@@jaydunbar7538 no like it paused but then the internet cut out
I didn’t think anything of it because I knew he was up to his old tricks, until it had been 25 seconds and I was suspicious
Look, when you watch a video with some of the best editing on RUclips... you don't skip a damn frame.
Not a dam frame bro, not one.!!!!
Straight up facts! I've never watched his videos before and don't understand cnc stuff
Not sure if I ever mentioned that before, but I freakin love your bone dry humor and thos dad jokes you toss around. Plus your videos are super informational! Absolutely love it!
I think the most amazing thing it me this that you’ve had that for a year? I thought it have been 6 months at MOST. I actually thought it had only been 3-4 months. I never doubted your skill in building this machine, your a perfectionist till the end.
I will always watch every second of every ToT video, usually 15 times.
That's some interesting strain relief on those corrugated tubes feeding the servos
That's the new virtual strain relief. It's super easy to install and never fails. Plus it's 100% waterproof. :-)
His day job is making wire coat hangers.
Two 1/4" cables running through a 2" pipe. Obvious.
I don't machine anything. I hardly have a shop. I just love these videos.
NEWS FLASH: "Early February, Netflix traffic dropped 27٪ as a rogue RUclipsr called "This Old Tony" released an 48 minute epic film on CNC. In other seemingly unrelated news, sales of servo drives spiked ..."
Totally considered getting a servo for absolutely ZERO purpose. And. Shiny. Blue. Box. Meeeeeeeeeeeee buyyyyyyyy... can't resist...
Shut up and TAKE MY MONEY
Alternate title: "Moving in with MAHO."
"When Tony Met Maho". Substitute the grinding ball nut sound for whatever Meg Ryan was trying to demonstrate in that coffee shop scene.
"Servo to the rib cage" is my new band name
Tony - your comedic timing, writing, editing skills, and expertise as a maker are all things I aspire to achieve even a small fraction of one day. Hats off to my all-time favorite youtube creator, I'm sure you've no idea how many people you have inspired.
For the y-axis ball nut failure, you may want to check the alignment between the screw axis and the ball nut mounting surface. Ballscrews are very sensitive to misalignment and from what I recall you need to have perpendicularity within around .001" to get the maximum life from a precision screw. You'll have to check the manufacturer's documentation for their specs to know for sure.
You may also want to check if your y-axis ball screw bearing support/mounting plate is deflecting under acceleration or cutting loads, as that may also lead to the same issue. As for the motor fold, I know manufacturers don't recommend that for small screws as the shafts can bend or break, but your components don't fall into that category.
From a dynamic response and accuracy perspective, getting rid of the belt and mounting the servo directly to the screw would be a great call as anything you put between the motor/encoder and the work will increase position/velocity error and decrease rigidity. A stiffer coupling between the motor and the screw may also help in that regard, as would beefing up the standoffs that your servos are currently sitting on to reduce flex, though it might be overkill for your application.
To me, it looks like the flex conduit making the noise.
Exactly when i'm supposed to sleep Tony uploads 48 minute long video. Thank you Tony, if i oversleep and be late to school tomorrow how i'm going to tell teacher that it's fault of machinist guru and his fräsmaschine.
I tried skipping around..... smashed my shin into the coffee table, twisted an ankle and sprained a wrist when I landed.
That was a truly great piece of cinema! I'd watch the 4th axis conversion whenever it happens
This Old Tony is a perfect example of the difference between a smart ass and a wise ass, love it
Thanks for saying it is okay to skip around, I SHALL NOT I am here for the duration😎
Tony, you oughta know the damage you've done to me.
Thanks to your evil videos, just last night, I ordered a stick welder and accessories. Now I'm out $800, and don't actually have anything to weld.
Thanks! I can't wait to try it out.
Thanks Mr Tony, despite the 'this old' your channel's content never gets old!
We all watched the whole thing start to finish. We're TOT subscribers. That's the only way to do it.
the "dehydrated" gauge block made me chuckle way more that it should've.
I'm very thankful to you Tony for finally considering my allergies when producing this video. Gluten containing steel is my kryptonite.
Me too. Whenever I eat it I become wildly magnetic
I wish, when I was growing up, that my dad had this presence (patience) to show me what he knew to pass on such amazing knowledge. You are sharing such a wealth of info. Thank you. Moooooooooaaaaaaaaaaar.
Dude u are the only RUclipsr i'm complaining for not making longer videos
Thanks for dropping your longest ever video right as I was going to bed....
Totally worth it, who needs rest.
5:36 the noise is the steel braded line 'rubbing' on the ribs from the pvc flex pipe
It looks like that's what it is at first, but the sound doesn't match.
Plastic rubbing wouldn’t cause the tool marks he points out in the “ball maze” 🤓
I immediately noticed the same thing and yes, it's not ONLY an obvious plastic sound but it is in sync with the movement!
What's the equivalent of an Oscar for web-only videos about machining? This video deserves one of those; whatever they are. Also, I really want to know what the watch statistics look like for this video. I don't know that I've ever watched another 48 minute long video on RUclips.
I didn't even realise it was a 48 minute video lol watched from start to finish and enjoyed every bit.
The longest TOT vid yet! Writing this before I watch it but I can't wait. I've been binge watching your videos lately and I'm glad to see a MAHO Video!!
EDIT: Wow!! Totally impressed TOT. I am truly impressed. This has been a LONG 14 months but i'm glad to see this machine saying "JAVOL!" to CNC commands and performing well enough. I just hope the other mill doesn't get too jealous.
Try Rotary SMP channel - also CNC maho'ing 😁
Me aswell my friend, me aswell...
I did as suggested and was skipping around while watching the whole movie... or rather that was the plan until the wife came out wondering what the hell all the commotion was about.
I tried , but I got bad knees & doctor said no more skipping
I learned sooo much from this! I am stepper literate, but have not dabbled in modern servo systems. This really helps me understand! THANK YOU!
Hi Tony, I work for the company that invented KingStar. I work at a technical level. I like you video and I might be able to clear up some stuff about the hardware. KingStar runs on so many different PCs. The real trick is the NIC. If you want to chat reply to this and we can figure out a way to share emails. Your videos are great!! -Matt
i shouted “yes!” when i saw this in my sub box. love your content tony you’re a real one.
Fun fact: I watched the whole thing in one sitting - without pausing! My only regret is not having more popcorn. Ran out about halfway through.
NGL the electrical part looked allot better than I was expecting. I've seen some machines that just looked like a copper birds nest. I applaud your setup
That was the hardest ToT video thus far to stay with, that said, I have just realised what is wrong with my dog, she needs tuning. Thanks ToT!