Our One Day Built Turbo Crown Vic Hits The Dyno! ....and Issues Arise.
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Man is this thing fun to drive!! Those turbo noises are truly amazing! Check out our Instagram #fasterproms sneak peaks inside! We tuned this thing with the mentality of an old school TPI car but we have a long way to go. SO much potential! we got some help coming and gonna make some MORE POWER!
Fasterproms clock the mass air and put it before the turbo
Fasterproms love what you do Jeremy
In this case "PID" means Parameter Identifier ;)
I have a 2006 Ford f150 Harley Davidson with the 5.4 and I've only been able to see the lil handheld junk tuners for my truck , I guess not many people are tuning older 3v 5.4s.....
Tee in a small aquarium air valve for your reference bleed....
Hey guys when I was doing turbos a long time ago when we needed to figure out the springs in the toolbox that were not marked we drilled a hole in our workbench and used a fishing scale to pull on the spring through the hole to get a basic pound reading it was really close to right most of the time!!!
Now that's smart af.
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Listen to me please!!! Give Paul's Performance a call in Jackson, MI. He was an engineer at Ford and has tested that 4.6 to the point of blowing many many motors at drag strips for Ford. He knows the weak points of this motor and it is the oiling system. He can definitely give you some pointers on what will make your life a lot easier in tuning this car. It's only a phone call - hear me out!
You wouldn’t have this problem with a Subaru. It would have blown up first pull and then you could have went home to spend time with your family.
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Yesssir
01GTB Daily hahaha gtfoh 😂😂😭🤧
@@Terminator4000 I have a buddy that is a master tech for Subaru and says they are shit
Speed up the video n play some Benny Hill music,funny as hell
free flowing exhaust is an UNDERSTATEMENT!!!
This is very impressive considering you put it together with mostly spare parts and items donated. And in 1.5 days! You guys are legends. 😁
Im a ford guy. If you make 450whp on a 4.6L and you dont blow it up you are doing great lol
this. especially a 2v. if the engine was previously built, mayyybe 550 600hp but in that case the motor would be buuiiilllttt. i dont think stock 2v heads would get them over 450 hp.
Your comment made me look up world record 4.6l engine...I found this lol you see how he dropped cleetus' name ruclips.net/video/PscPeF5lB7I/видео.html
My buddy has made over 800whp on stock 2v heads.
I read i Hot Rod article about the 4.6L, it can be done up to 750+ bhp. they broke it down to 3 stages if you wanted to try it out. great article.
X CrankyOldMan his was cams, rods, pistons, turbo and fuel. There's an old video on my channel from years ago.
I took my factory exhaust manifolds and swapped them to exit out the front of the engine.
I welded on some junkyard ball and socket exhaust couplers to connect my y-pipe into the single turbo.
The turbo had almost no lag. It was also only a T-3 flange.
All low and mid power sort of like an EcoBoost engine.
How do you only have 242k subscribers???? Your channel is awesome! I watch you and Cletus religiously. Keep up the great content man!
Clay Leto I’m shocked too, that he only have 242k subs
Yeah you get to say stuff they see here.
I highly recommend you pressure test that intercooler Jeremy. I work in a fabrication/welding shop and I've had lots of experiences with prebuilt intercoolers that leaked like no other. Especially if they are used at all. What I've seen happen is most guys tig welding aluminum do not taper off the weld correctly and leave craters at the termination point. Over time those start to leak and crack very bad. I've repaired hundreds of coolers all with that same issue whether it's intercoolers or radiators. These leaks cause a much more severe pressure drop/loss in the cooler core. I'm a huge stickler with my tig welds and make dang sure I do it right once. Maybe this will give ya something to try.
Don’t know where that is with the doggos at the end...but I want to go to there. Beautiful piece of land.
It's his home
Turkey in the background. Nice af.
Cleatus became a fan with neighbor and now Jermey with this. Both definitely respect ford now ... and dare I say both are now favorite cars?
I love how you are showing old school tuning methods. New platform, classic tuning, and making it safe through the learning curve.... I'd say you killed it! Can't wait to see where this goes from here.
That’s a great start. It’s not all about power. The sound, responsiveness, things learned, drivability, cool factor and fun factor are just as important. I’m liking this car so far.
LMAO "Like it has AIDS." LOL anything I tell somethere o2 sensor is lazy now I'm telling them it has AIDS. Lol
Tanks ChopShop I had to go back and rewatch to see if I heard that correctly 😂😂
Tanks ChopShop 😂😂😂😂
Hope the other cars in the shop don't contract aids lol
302hobronco as long as they keep their rods away from tailpipes, they’ll be ok.
@@302hobronco imagine if that ford infects Leroy 😥
You have the best outro in video... all hyped up watching for the disaster, or at least the struggle... then the relaxation of the GR's ... beautiful...
Dig it...I want to do a twin turbo on a 95 , f250, with a 460 ,
Fuel hog I know ,,
But the torque range would be awesome...
And also because everybody's doing LS motors,, or Cummins diesel swap..
460 Ford motors
A loyal,, faithful they start every time..
As Pegg would say
From Zip Ties & bias plies...
I question myself why these types of videos are so awesome to watch. Its not a video I can send to many people i know but I enjoy watching all them. *Opens Beer* ahh yeah on to the next video.
Do you remember when you got the car the guy said it was set up for boost? Do you think he has already gapped the rings and that is why you have lower compression?
Yes
Got a good name for her
"The hand-me-down Crown"
And oh boy, sorry if this is a low blow, but freakin Salvation Army is killing Uncle Samantha in terms of reliability!!! 😂😂😅😛😝
The subwoofer(10") on my computer's 5.1 Logitech speakers was rumbling pretty loud when the Crown Vic was running, and it's not up all the way!! 🤣🤣🤣👍👍👍🤘🤘🤘
Same with my tower speakers and 12" sub. Sounds like I was in it with him
Managed to plug a brag about computer audio into a car video. Nicely done
A squirrel chasing a groundhog... you never know what you'll find on Faster Proms 😁
With all your tuning knowledge geared towards fuel injection and more specifically LS engines I would love to see you start with something with a carburetor, tune it, swap carbs, build it up, do everything you can MSD ignition, the whole thing and then swap it over to one of the carburetor style fuel injection systems and then tune that and see how far you can really take it versus what you did with the carburetor. I think it'd be really awesome to see you learn along the way and build on top of the amazing amount of knowledge you already have!
The sound of the exhaust is awesome!!!!! Front exit is rad!!! The Vic is comming a round.
The sound of the motor is fantastic
Fun to watch you guys.... I am new here. You should take it to an experienced tuner! They would have the software plus there are ways you can add timing or pull it out, get fuel mixtures right, and much more a guy that does this for a living and knows what he is doing is able to accomplish!! Don't get me wrong I know you have to learn somewhere. When you figure out the boost each spring makes then paint or mark your springs and write down the total boost each spring combo makes. Good luck and keep trying!
A I been waiting on this video I have a 98 crown vic I dream of doing this too.
Dosent cost much bro!
@@damiancadiere2676 yeah I know just always get side tracked
@Jr ALEXANDER nawl I have like 4 cars it's kinda my toy I barely drive it
2008 mercury. Same here, not cheap. unless u can do it your self its gonna cost u.
@@BassAddict91
You can't afford even afford gas for your piece of shit.
I like how Jeremy know's his PID's and also uses a drill or measures a springload with his hands :D What a machine!
To be fair he didn't give the correct name, The "PID's" he was talking about is short for (Parameter Identification Data).
A closed loop PID system(proportional-integral-derivative) is something different. Like what a car does with the O2 system, it uses that info from the sensor and makes an adjustment to the fuel. He was simply talking about Parameters he was able to log.
@@bigce I was actually wondering if i should try tuning cars.. LOL.. But i guess that it wouldn't be such a thing like i do with little quadcopters 😅 Thanks for the reply!
Never say sorry for knowledge without tech. you sir are an artist and a mechanical dynamo. I do it all the time. make things great without relying on too many scanners, tuners and software. the ear and know how wins again. thanks for this video.
I am a professional, so the first thing I noticed is your turn signal fluid was low.. Higher compression does not like forced induction, intake restriction wont be happy either.. Its like chocking a swimmer but asking them to be faster. All the running won't help unless you go w/a smaller prop where your gearing is.
I am sure this has been stated already, but the PI intake can handle 15-20 lbs of boost and 600 whp on a 4.6 with ported PI heads.....
600 whp is considering it's a built bottom end....anything over 450 whp is playing with a bomb on these engines.
@@Jsmith9619 It does have forged internals.
It’s not stock internals.
@@msengineeringdavid3702 correct, I know it is.....made that statement before the internet mechanics corrected me, lol
@@msengineeringdavid3702 I am aware, thx
Turbo Vic definitely had neighbors on exhaust noise that spool sounds insane!!
Instead of drilling holes, you just put a tee on the hose to the wastegate and then put a needle valve to adjust the amount of leakage. Much easier and you can actually control it.
Love this build. I have a 2003 Marauder and I want to do the same thing. Looks great. Sounds even better.
Cant wait till u get the software to get her right. That things gonna make aome good fun power.
LOL..... drilling a hole to adjust boost.... reminds me of the good old days when we used aquarium air hose and adjustable valves to "control" boost.
Dont forget about soldering inline resistors to the injectors
Omg those dogs fetching in the field in the end! Quite relaxing!
Thing sounds badass when you come off throttle!!
After watching cleetus and jeremy. . I have never wanted a crown vic so bad in my entire life
About 22min 30sec in...am i the only one that saw the skateboard er roll by lol
... twice.
I was wondering what that was about too.
It was his kid both times
That was my intrest level also. Dad can we just blow it up already
1 month later and i now have a twin turbo 2007 p71 on 8 psi 342 hp on 92 and 393ft lbs of torque. It's in the shop rn getting full exhaust done.
Should put exhaust cutout on it so you can open it up when u want it rowdy.
Love the dogs at the end of every video and the vic is coming along.
I dig the exhaust sticking out a little bit
I've had that same Autogauge tach for the last 17 years in several different cars. For a less than $50 tach I can't believe how good it's been.
I foresee A Galaxy vs Turbo Vic video upon Cleetus seeing you dusting it.
I learnt so much from this video. I noticed that the fuel was way too lean during the pulls after the hot air pulls. Very interesting.
2 valve motors suck to make power on but damn they sound so good... Biggest issue is the intake and heads. Better flowing heads and put that old intake back on. Guys are making 600 hp with a 2 valve.
There best bet is to use a PI stock intake from I believe 2006 and newer crown vics. They flow just about the same as the edelbrock intakes do. Same as the PI intake. You dont see much of a power gain when using a full K&N intake vs a PI intake with a K&N drop in filter because they already flow very well.
JJ Rudawski I’d recommend him getting trick flow heads
True. I had a 98 GT that I swapped on heads and intake from a 2000 GT, had all the bolt on's, lots of griggs and maximum motorsports suspension, Koni/steeda on all 4 corners and bassani mid length headers and X pipe with Dr Gas mufflers. It was insane and bonkers loud but I think maybe was a mid/low 14 sec car at best. I built it for auto cross and solo II events though so going fast straight wasn't really a big deal.
The biggest problem aren't the heads it's the rods and pistons that are the weak spot on the 4.6
I’m really liking this build. I’m not a ford fan but this is just badass
Probably the wrong size turbo exhaust housing and its fighting itself with back pressure
Was thinking that with one turbo it's a reeeally small housing, I think you guys in the US forget that it's still a 4.6L 8cyl motor flowing shit loads of air cause its a 'small' v8 haha
Digging the intros very professionally done . Did you hire someone Jer or did you do this yourself ?
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All in house brother!!
Fasterproms impressive ma man . Really digging the content !!!
I'm assuming that coyote engine cleetus bought originally for neighbor isn't around anymore?
Yolodouchebag supercharged it and put it in a fairmont.
its in his crown vic!
@@Swagoi Cleetus put a 5.4 gt500 engine in the vic
@@karlhopkins713 yup
What faimont
That's awesome, can't wait to you get the correct software to properly tune the Vic
Just send it....great videos bro glad to see the fleet Comeing together can't wait for the s10 biuld and for sam to come back
Those ball chuckers have gotta be the best dog invention ever!
Good job bud love what your doing keep up the good work god bless lost my nephew in iraq happy with your work with our troops thank you
If I remember correctly from back in my CVPI days, I believe that aluminum intake was known to pick up 20 hp over the stock plastic manifold. Was a pretty popular mod for the 4.6 back in the days.
A better way to control boost is to use C02 gas and plumb a pressure sensor into the port to get the boost you want from all the back pressure generated in the cap, the gate does open when you don't think it does and that where you command more c02 to make sure it stays shut.
Thanks for posting God bless you too. Logos rising!
I feel a forged Teksid or WAP on the way. I'd do cams/springs and an intake manifold and get a used Cobra 03-04 bottom end and have fun. With a turbo you'll see minimal gains messaging with the PI 2v heads. Maybe do a valve job if you're already in there but otherwise don't waste your time.
ruclips.net/video/orQKXrfvXBo/видео.html
Ported heads, cams, ported intake, 75mm T/B, forged bottom, 9.5:1 comp.
I missed the earlier video. Seems like it's ready to go after supporting mods. A GT or SVT Focus fuel pump should be done too if not already.
Im a cleeter fan so i wanted you to put it out the hood. But damn you guys did a good job on that stuff. Loving your videos man keep up the good work!
Wish my cruiser had a turbo. Topped out at 130, but took forever to get there
2v's are the best love hate relationship.
Sounds good the way it is. Keep up the good work man, we know you’ll figure out how to tune it and find that power.
Keen to see what you can do with some tuning software !
I think Jeremy fasterproms needs to visit efidynotuning.com and learn a little about ford EEC-V tuning.
I've only said that a handful of times 😆.
(I go by motorhead1991 there)
YEP!!!!
Super cool to see you try to tune you guys tune black beauty manually.
Great Video. Having both the 2004, and a 2008 Ford Crown Victoria P 71's I am interested in more power of course. Thanks.
Get the Bullitt Mustang intake set for the 2V. You can boost the engine as hard as you want if the tune is right. 15 psi is a good start👊👊👊👍
Oh man those 2 valve 4.6L’s sound soooooooooooooo good. I miss both of mine :( 02 f150 and 04 mustang gt. Definitely my favorite sounding motor.
Great video and fun build to watch. Keep it up!
That exhaust sounds so. freggin. awesome.
Jeremy, I think your tach has turned even more to the right since the last time you had the Vic on the dyno😁 Torque Turned Tach or "TTT" 🤣🤘👍
Awesome keep leveling up to race Neighbor
I had a 98 mustang gt with a 01 crown Vic 4.6 (bone stock) with the good 8bolt crank.. with twin 57s, on 12psi I made 405hp and like 490tq at the tire. Was good for a 12.0 here in Utah ...probably could have got a 11.80 out of it in better air. . You have a built engine... crank er up! Bet your cool to 600 with stock heads and like a victor jr intake manifold
Great, now the price of these things are gonna sky rocket more than they already have. Good thing i like the Grand Marquis.
Sounds so awesome with surround sound
Oh man this makes me want to do this to my crown vic. I manual swapped it recently and this would be a great way to make more power easy. Once you get the tuning software it should make more power more easily. I'd suggest not going over 420whp. 450whp is the max of the 4.6 2v and 4v cranks before you get into the danger of it snapping. How much did it cost to turbo your vic? I'd be very interested in copying your set up.
Look into Edelbrocks 4.6 2V intake. It is aluminum as well but has short runners and better flow than either manifold your working with.
Came here for boost and Retrievers. Not disappointed 👍😄
When I first turbo-charged my 1996 Mustang GT 4.6 I didn't have an intercooler.
The 200+ degree temperatures was melting my PRO-M MAF apart!
A $100 3" Aluminum eBay intercooler fixed that.
Closest thing to your average viewers driveway/garage build! Smash that thumbs up before I even watch the video! Such a cool project!
I feel like the 2v is giving you all she’s got captain. Any more the crystals are going to start breaking up and she’s gonna blow.
Software is a pain in my hate metric bolt butt....lol! Great Video and Thank You for sharing the details!!!
"cropdust that turd" bwahahhaah best line on this channel yet!!
Maybe don’t have a .63 ar rear housing on a v8 and it might pick up a bunch more power... should be a .9+ at at the least if you want to make any power
8 minutes 53 seconds was that a Caddyshack reference?!? either way I was dying!
I had a 04 mustang with a little 1.6 Kenne Bell and at 9psi it made 410hp, 409tq, 12psi 443hp 421tq, she didn't live long at 12psi on stock bottom end
Tko600 with 410s it was a fun back road street car. Horrible on highway with 410s it actually ran out a gear in 1/4 in 4th needed a 3.73 with the 6k set redline
Jermey my boy rippin the ford like a real man
Makes me want to get a crown vic to play with
Car sounds really good
Own a 02 gt so this 2v stuff is right up my alley doing stg 3 comp cams and full bolt ons I got off a wrecked car from the auction and using other parts on my LS fox project
I love this answers so many questions
I like your channel don't get me wrong. That second intake manifold you put on is the newer of the two version. That's the version that works with the higher horsepower 4.6. Granite it ain't much higher. Well the only thing I can suggest is move to the 32 valve 4.6
Remember that is only a 281 CID engine , almost 400 hp is nothing to laugh at LOL
The Coyotes are 302cid and make 417-460 from the factory....
And also have more cams for more flow
4.8 with the same turbo would make 700
With less cam
Dawson Curtin yeah but look how much better the intake and heads are on the 4.8L.
This just proves how much I miss Uncle Sam. Love the vids. Thanks
DynoMax Race Bullet Muffler. It will sound beastly.
Dam man. Good job on the channel. Almost 250k subscribers!! Keep them coming
19:53 Nice driving style Grandpa Jezza XD
Didn't the previous owner say it had forged bottom end and was ready for boost if so port the heads get a custom can from Todd Warren rev the car out to 7500 and make 800 horsepower and if you want more power talk to trick flow and get some heads from them and make 4 digits
I second that 100%. With a vic jr or even track heat intake manifold, some todds cams and valvesprings, this thing could make crazy power. Easily over 800 rwhp if the turbo is big enough
@@cobravids702 exactly so much false info on this and I think I remember the previous owner say it had forged internals