Walksnail Goggles X For Avatar HD - All In One FPV With Some Compromises!
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- Опубликовано: 31 июл 2024
- Caddx Walksnail Goggles X For Avatar HD Digital FPV System and Drones
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Time Stamps
00:00 Opener
00:58 Quick Unboxing
01:58 Goggles Price
2:29 Goggle Overview & Specs
04:50 Extra Features
06:20 Power Input
06:46 IR Sensor ,Cooling,Antifog
07:25 Facemask
08:03 Antennas
09:36 LED Display
09:24 Optics Adjustment
11:04 Head Strap
11:37 VRX Upgrade Panel
12:13 Avatar HD System On Goggles X
13:15 Avatar HD RF Changes & TX/RX Info
14:09 Goggles Comparison
16:38 Goggles X Menu & Software
18:48 HDMI IO Overview & Demo
20:45 HDMI IO Compatibility
21:55 Analog IO Overview & Demo
23:29 Analog Latency
25:28 Analog RF Issue Warning
26:50 Goggles X Teardown
32:36 VRX Module Removal
36:13 Thermal Overview
37:17 Summary So Far
38:10 Mads Thoughts Good & Bad
41:14 Optics Good & Bad, Blur & Vignetting
45:41 Antifog - Good & Bad - Mads Thoughts Cont
47:54 Should You Buy or Upgrade To Goggle X
49:30 Goggle X vs HDZero Goggle
52:16 What About Fatshark & Final Final Final Thoughts, Wrap-up.
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Important Update. - Analog Fixed.
Hi the Avatar VTX transmission issues I discussed while in hdmi and analog modes has now been fixed in the firmware and I can happily confirm this no longer an issue. When you receive your goggles please make sure you update to the latest FW.
Analog fixed but it still can't dvr analog right? I'm debating getting these or hdzero to have hdzero, walksnail, and analog 90% for whoops. But dvr is essential.
Take a drink every time MadsTech says "Hey-ch DMI" and you wont be alive anymore. This is an excellent review! I watched all 56 minutes of it.
So happy to see Caddx moving forward in a competitive fashion.
And without Fatshark’s stupid input.
I choose to vote with my money, love the inter-compatibility between X goggles and other systems. Wish the whole industry would do this.
You clearly put a lot of work into this video. Thank you.
Testing HDZero VRX latencty on Goggles X and comparing Avatar VRX latency on HDZero goggles to Goggles X would be interesting
I agree. I currently fly DJI V1 goggles, and have been wanting to switch to Avatar. I considered getting HDZero goggles and an Avatar VRX, but the additional latency with that combination (on top of the already mediocre Avatar latency) put me off. If I did experiment with HDZero it would be so that I could experience low latency, so there would be no point using these goggles with an HDZero VRX if the latency wasn't low. Knowing which combinations worked well together would be informative, but an exhaustive set of tests would be a huge amount of work.
At least my DJI V1 still works well, it's just not the most ergonomic goggles.
So they just did this to stop paying FatShark royalties on the last goggle
Yeah fatshark should just go into the long dark night
Fats shark is ghey boy quality and , thank God they're out...
Good fuck Gerg
@@danc8458I can’t agree more. Never did like Fatshark. Over priced garbage. I mean come on! $700 for HDO goggles that doesn’t even have a receiver!!!! So you dropped $700 for some oled screens is about it and some cheap plastic.
Good riddance Fatshark.
But they might be making their own system...
Thank you man for the amazing support 🤙
Love your reviews, your the man 😊😊❤ when covering technical details.
Very much information and glad, that you covered nearly everything I would have asked. Stay tuned
Congrats, Ian! This is a great overview of the new goggles. Nobody does it better!!
Watched this yesterday morning and it’s still the best video on the release so far. Great work Ian 👏👏
This will most likely be the only video for these goggles I'll watch as a quick look at the timestamps (thanks for including them, Ian) and I'm sure you've covered pretty much all anyone will want/need to know. I do love a longer format video too so thanks for the effort. Right, I'll settle in... 👍
Just Perfect Review!
you answered every single question in my mind. thank you for the amazing job you are doing!
Lookin' forward for the nex V2Dual antenna VTX review
This was so thorough and detailed. I really appreciate the time and effort put into this.
I’ve been on the fence between walksnail and HDZero and this really helped clarify that for my interests, the HDZero goggles are still the best choice for me.
Thank you!
I’ve also been on the fence between walksnail and HDZero. This doesn't clarify the decision to me. More questions than answers on their intent in regard to analog.
Fantastic work, Ian! Awesome and complete review! Thanks!!!
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Best reviewer ever! Appreciate the work you do!
Very comprehensive review! Great work Ian!
As of writing, double the views of the other reviewers.....That's how the Mads Tech team rolls :) Keep up the great work. Love your content.
Great video Ian! Thanks for working hard to get this out to us.
Thanks for the review Ian. Some interesting points and very detailed.
Thanks for this. Really appreciate the work you put into it.
And THIS is why I joined Ian's Patreon! A f'ing phenomenal review!
Cant wait for mine to arrive!! Cheers MT
Well Done.... Thanks for the review Ian.... The Goggles do look good...
Well, lots more to think about. Thanks, Mads! Great review.
Thank you for a balanced review Ian.
Shocking to hear Albert Kim infer that any negative comments are probably disingenuous.
I'm not thrilled with Avatar V1 and I certainly haven't seen anything from your review that will have me busting out the credit card.
Once again, thank you for your integrity.
This is the best review on these goggles., thanks alot !
It's a great time for us pilots, love this and now I use them all. 🤪
Amazing breakdown of pros, cons, and features. Thanks Ian.
Great, surprisingly unbiased review. These have almost anything I could have asked for, although the sub-optimal analog solution and lack of serious hardware upgrades makes me seriously considering keeping my HDO1/vrx setup for analog/backup and buying a cheap set of avatar v1 goggles for dedicated digital use since rf and optical performance is basically the same or better
Why surprisingly unbiased ?
Nice review, I appreciate your detailed review
Ian, congratulations on the way this is structured. You can not get away with a video this long without planning and flow and good structure. You succeeded, Good job 👍
One point to make about GogglesX v HDZero wearing each other's vrx. The HDZero vrxs can be fitted to the Goggles X, but dont forget that they cant do 1080p and probably will not be able to do so going forward. Unlike the other way around.
great review Ian! Thank You!
Great review. Everything we have to know. Thanks.
Thanks for this absolutely fantastic and detailed review Ian! I don't think these goggles are for me and your review was absolutely crucial for making that decision.
I was thinking the leds were pointless… and then the cylon convinced me it’s needed 😮
Very good review! Im new to fpv and this vill be my very first googles.😊
Outstanding work ! I wonder if they have audible, sound Q if signal strength is going critical , rather then always a visual check. Analog is becoming a side show anymore anyways so a capture devise is fine for me, most transmitters today can show GPS location . They do look like the 1970 Ford LTD Brougham. The kids will be sold on the Spacy look 😜 I'm convinced this is my HD conversion now.
Great video. Thanks Ian!
Top effort! As usual 😎
What a Master Class. !!!!! Love it.
So that's fatshark being surgically removed from the equation, as they step up on the body of their partner... there can be only ONE
Fatahark is sad looking
FS should of stayed the course with HDZ
@@peterthepumpkineater6363Maybe Gerg could approach Carl hat in hand.
@@peterthepumpkineater6363 at this stage I think you are right. I bet they wish they had made a different decision!
Manufacturers should pay attention here. He really knows the subject and represent what people want. Companies should put him on their pay role without a doubt. Great video. Enforce hdmi imput! Thank you.
I am so happy that they made these with some upgrades and plus the HDMI & A/V Input's which is huge to me, it made the V1's almost basically a deal breaker for that reason. This is going to take away some business from HDZero goggles i feel like. The walksnail digital system seems more like the dji air unit and you could always get an HDZero VRX if you wanted to use HDZero system
For everyone worried about a Power Switch on your Goggles, which i dont see a point if theyre just going to cut power abruptly anyway, you could get a DJI Goggles 2/V2 Battery pack. Its 2s voltage output and its somewhere near 2000mah and has decent battery life on both the V2's and the G2's. Its a small & light battery pack that uses the USB-C out to a DC Barrel-Jack cable and there's a button on the battery to turn it on & off. So essentially a work around to an easy power button without removing any cables..
Plus then when your done they can be quick charged thru the same USB-C port and keep it simple. Personally id use a Fatshark Li-ion Battery Cell Holder Pack. It cant be charged as easily but its super easy and cheap to have a few pairs of 18650 batteries to keep charged with you and be able to just swap them out & they still have the Battery Level Indicator like the Lipo version. USB-C powered 18650 chargers are easy to find, but then its just one more thing to carry..
Great review, thanks 🙏
Ian, thank you for the thorough review.
From you DJI Googles 2 review, I know that I have the same issue with fit and vision that you experience.
It sounds to me like the Walksnail GX fit a lot like the DJI G2, so my hopes for being able to see the entire display are dashed. Maybe one day, one of these companies will try to fit their goggles to something other than their own head shape.
Than you for that great video!
I would love to have a bit more info about the latency of the HDMI input, especially when using them with an HDZero VRX.
I already bought HDZero googles and a Avatar VRX because I am working on putting that VRX on an antenna tracker when flying long range.
I find it a lot harder to fly high gain antenna and adjusting your position to track the drone with avatar than with analog or even hdzero.
Amazing googles and great review
Ian...... I gotta say..... You've done a damned good job reviewing these!
Very impressed with the work you have put into it.
Well done!
Thank you very much for your the detailed review. It is only me who got impression that the old walksnail goggle looks more solid?
I get the same impression
THis looks AWESOME!
Still Loving the portability and design and also the Features of my DJI Goggles 2
Good well keep them
So far im finding these to be rather compelling. Not ground breaking, but that's fine. I like to have a spectator goggle or display to share the experience, considering I'm currently using the VRX this will work. The price point i would call very good. For me the biggest question is regarding the glass to glass latency of this goggle with the HDZero module vs. the HDZero goggle with the WS module. With the better anti fog airflow of the HDZero goggles that still may be my preferred option.
Nice review Ian...fogging would be me biggest gripe i recon
Literally bought the skyzones now I can breath a sigh of relief 😮💨
Can't wait for Goggles X²!
Excellent overview! Do you get audio out of that a/v port when using hdmi in.. say if you´re watching a movie, or in a future vtx I am hoping for live audio transmission..
Great review Ian, really appreciate the ton of work you've put into this (and other) videos. Your goggle videos specifically have cost me a fortune over the years ;-)
Just curious about one thing: you mention that these new goggles will be the ones you'll be bringing out on the field with you (vs the v1 goggles), what is the reason specifically? You seem to say the fit, optics and airflow are all worse for you vs. v1, that seems to me to be a good reason to stick with the v1's... is it the 1080p100 mode? HDMI in/out? Looking like a badass Cylon?
Thanks!
Lets make a drinking game about how many times he says "goggle"
I'm going to the hospital in that case. 😖
That's suicide!
Wow amazing
Great review! In-depth, clear, honest, objective!
When are we going to see proper solutions adapted from VR industry like third top strap (which is a must and costs nothing), proper optics (pancake lenses anyone?) and so on?
I'm feeling like FPV google industry is like 5 years behind VR.
About the goggles:
1) Possible to have hdmi input/analog input with other VRX but then you have no DVR, what a shame
2) Looking at the thermal camera footage I see really poor cooling design.
3) Overall these are looking like it's some beta state prototype and not a final product imho release in a huge hurry.
It seems I will just buy the HDZero goggles...
... you are just awesome....
With the blurring and discomfort with the DJI Goggles 2, both issues can be solved. I built a custom face pad that puts my eyes closer to the lenses and the custom padding is made to fit my face perfectly. Once I did this, the optics are very nearly perfect (still just the slightest blurring of the very corners of the screen) and the fit is super comfortable.
I would imagine that it would be the same with these goggles as well.
I will never understand why these manufacturers think it is okay to release these products with sub par optics when the whole point of the product is optics.
I definitely love my 04X's over all others. Optics are perfect and the included face plate options solve any fitment issues without affecting the optics.
They look pretty good - big thing is the competitive price, might be time to sell my HDO’s with rapid fire if possible….
good review, i just pre ordered them. hdmi in.....at last...
Bedankt
Thank you very much for this detailed review! I really like your video's and can't wait to see more video's about it when you've done some more testing!
Very good presentation, thank you. I wear glasses for astigmatism and hearing aids; neither is conducive to flying fpv. I'd love to see a video on options (and how to implement).
RHO-LENS will have what you need
Great video!!🔥 I am very interested in the latency testing, hopefully that comparison includes the WS vrx to hdzero goggles vs goggle x latency. I have been asked this question on my video. I think your better to find those results.
Thanks Nick. We can now relax. It’s been a very busy week with this in the background lol. I may take a month off 😂.
On the latency testing yes I will start to look at it next week or so. 100% interesting subject.
@@MadRC yes it has been a busy time. I was hopeful the inputs and dvr would be an option, but caddx confirm its not possible with current hardware. I continue to hope something was lost in the communication.
Great vid
Do you have an idea if lens protectors from dji goggles 2 fit these lenses? Want to order some but I need to know if the lenses are the same or a bit bigger. I don't want scratches on my lenses. Thanks!
the single tx is the main reason i'll stick to the original goggles. Only way I can justify an upgrade is if there was an actual upgrade in the form of a dual tx vrx. All the other features are really cool, but I fly for me so none of them are relevant to my use. Also I guess I'm the rarity in that I like having separate goggles for analog and digital so the "one goggle for everything" idea doesn't appeal to me. But thanks for the incredible deep dive as usual Ian. You always make the most informative RC related content, and it helps immensely when making decisions on what to buy.
We do get to know!
Buen trabajo!
Who remembers the Cylons in the Battlestar Galactica?
Oh yeah need to have the goggles make that sound too!
Nobody bro, stop living in the past
Knight rider kitt car comes to mind too.
😂😂
@@danc8458 yo, that's the future man...
Can you do a full teardown into the optics? Wanting to buy some but i need to know if i can modify the ipd adjustment like ive done with my dji goggles. 78ipd problems 😢
Thanks for such an in depth review. Could you drill in a bit more on the comfort? they look like the goggles 2 especially on the nose, head shape, and foam, and the goggles 2 are the worst fit I've used. Even today on the 7th try, the goggles 2 are are usable but not enjoyable. HDZero fit is currently the best in my opinion.
Buying these now from caddx with shipping is $480 with a 15 day minimum lead time to ship. So you’d get them by December if you’re lucky.
Then 9 months later the VRX internals are outdated. While I really love the forward sight thinking by Caddx here, because buying new goggles all the time makes no sense, the idea of a completely new system on the horizon in August makes this a harder pill to swallow.
So many questions like - will the new system be backward compatible with the current vtx hardware? How much will it cost?
Really on the fence investing in these, and I wish Caddx was more communicative about things like hardware compatibility. The V1 owners also now seem destined to be left behind if Caddx doesn’t step up and give them an inexpensive upgrade path.
Yeah, too many unknowns with the talk of the new VTX. So I buy the Goggle X and when the new VTX comes out, do I have to bolt a new VRX onto these goggles or buy ‘Goggles X2’ when they arrive in probably a year’s time?
I'm switching over to WS if DJI O4 is not compatible with the Goggles V2.
great job
im looking to get in to fpv, are these compatible with the DJI O3? im ready to pull the trigger, have a remote and some SIM time, i just need ti figure out if i go with the DJI goggles 2 or this (if its compatible).
I'm so hopefully that the new vrx is going to be great and come out by xmas, oh and not cost an arm and a leg
Thanks
I am a DJI V1/V2 user for over 3years. Saw these during my lunch break kinda liked what I saw, then saw the price on HobbyRC and just went for it! Your video was great and informative as always and so far I`m not regretting my preorder. Wonder when will they actually ship though? Now I need to learn about their VTX and camera situation and spend even more money 😳
could you please Update🙏🙏 I'm in between these two in the long run WS is cheaper 150 vrx vs 250 o3 but second hand v2 are also like 150 euros cheaper. Is the image better on the WS? Is the fit better? How about the range? thanks in advance ❤❤❤
@@lolmetyuri received them, didn't quite liked them, they didn't fit well (none do), then after using them for an hour or so they heated up and right screen changed colours, became greener. Went back to normal after they've cooled but that was the final nail so I filled the return request and sent them back. Sticking with my old DJI V2 and Vistas until they improve or I find a cheap pair of WS V1 goggles
@@Arthur4all thanks once again !
👍💖thx
Hopefully this means even lower discounted Dominators :) .. I know that FS has left a big black mark on their reputation with the whole Scout HDZero fiasco, but they've been ok with everything else. My HD02's have been pretty good to me (I'm on HD02's with FS Sharkbyte Vrx)
I'm currently using the HDZero goggles and I love them. I have been thinking about getting a Walksnail VRX so I could try out that system too. Originally I went with HDZero because I could still use analog with them. As far as these new Walksnail goggles I think they look better than the originals and If I didn't already have the HDZero goggles I would have considered these as well. I'm hoping the Fatshark goggle will go on sale and if they do I might just pick up a pair instead of running the VRX on my HDZeros.
How is the analog on HDZero working for you? I’ve heard a lot of people say it’s very problematic
@@P204N It works perfect for me. I have the V2 analog adapter with built in wifi and I'm running a Rapid Fire module. For me it's the best analog I've ever used and I would totally recommend it especially if you plan on using the goggles for HDZero also. I have a Freestyle v2 VTX and 2 Whoop lite VTXs and I really love running HDZero too.
What I will add however after my initial negative opinion is..... I do like the ability to swap out the vrx if in the future caddx releases an updated version without the need to buy new goggles.....
Nice, I like that
Hey Ian, I would love to design a new shell for these goggles. In case you make a complete teardown, can you share some more pictures of the inside? There are a lot design features in the CAD file, where i just don't know from an outside point of view, what they are made for. Some of them don't really make sense without more backround knowledge. Great review! thanks!
I should get a similarly square case for the first version of the goggles, the constant installation/uninstallation of patches is kind of sadistic.
The fact that the HDZero goggles can record analog DVR and the X cant instantly separates them.
lol - nobody cares about analog.
@@mlentsch Well it's a good thing you aren't designing goggles
@@mlentsch Really? I have both HD and analog and I fly analog 90% of the time!!
@mlentsch other surveys have shown, analog still has a large presence in fpv.
@@erikvf7 There must be something wrong with your visual cortex.
is it better to put the hdzero vrx on the goggles x or to put the walksnail vrx on the hdzero goggles?
Farewell my friend the power button. Gonna miss you :(
Yeah I really liked having a power button.. oh well.
Another Great video! I just got the scout recon walksnail goggles and I can't seem to get them latest firmware on them. Is the avatar ground se, update version something I should try?
I've been very careful not to let the download be interrupted. I just get fast beeps as it starts to do the update. Thanks in advance
Now thats a review.
by the time they are going to fix the digital transmitting when using analog they are going to launch the 4k goggle:)
Finally! The Mad Scientist unavails the goods 👊👍👍
Is it still 1 transmitting antenna 3 receiving antenna or is it now 2 and 2?
This is pretty dope. I'm little excited for what's coming in December. Have you gotten the review copy?
I don't understand why these goggles don't have 120hz screens: how future proof are they really?
An interesting question regarding latency would be to know if they implemented a "G-Sync" function like on HDZERO goggles.
Could you test the latency with the HDZERO vrx?