Too tempting for someone to seize power, especially if she had given birth to a boy. Elizabeth was no fool. Ask Mary Stuart about dangers in the marriage market .
All she had to do was look at her mother Anne Boleyn being decapitated for the crime of being his wife (ok, for the false crimes of adultery and incest but mainly the real crime of not bearing a male heir).
@@glendabarton1914 What I meant was as a queen regnant Elizabeth could not afford to be the pawn of men in the marriage market. Mary followed a woman's heart and lost. Elizabeth followed an English heart and if not won, she survived to rule a great nation.
Gee, her dad went through six wives, beheaded two INCLUDING HER OWN MOM, and women were considered the property of their husbands. I can’t imagine why a ruling monarch would want to stay single under those circumstances?🙄
I don't know why any one wonders why Elizebeth didn't marry, like Henry the 8th as your father wasn't enough? My only question was did she refuse to marry because every important woman in her life was died because of he father either by child birth or failure to create a son? Maybe the fact that she had every reason in the universe not to believe in the sanctity of marriage, or church, or men!?! Perhaps it was the likelihood that as soon as she married her husband would if popular be a constant threat to her life and power and what if all he wanted to do was rule her, and by that rule England? Fear of death by child was a rational fear for a monarch because infant and mother mortality was high and two of the important women in her life died by child birth, or even revenge on her father by ending his line??? However I suspect it was a combination of all of those plus by the end I believe she believe she was married to England. Ho thats rite I had almost forgotten she had likely been molested by her step mothers new husband who's interest in her cost her place in the household of one of the last important woman in her life! I wonder how she could have hoped to rein, marry, and have children, with some one who would once married to her, became her biggest threat, to her power and respect, her very throne, possibly even her life its self, its happened? For her it was a no win situation. Im sure there were times she wished she were not Queen but she seemed to take the job seriously until she died. You gotta respect that.
I wonder why people think she was a great queen when she screwed over her own military and made all catholics suffer for what a few religious radicals did.
because the dynasty was in her hands - ie having babies. Also, if she had died there could have been a civil war, with no clear successor. They cared a lot about church then too. Church was everywhere. Plus marriage was a method of creating political alliances. Had she not been a bastard she would have been married off as a teenager. Had Mary had a child she would have married Elizabeth off once she had an heir
Henry the 8ths line, but Henry the 7ths line is still kicking around if you consider just the blood and not legitimate male lines, 😜. I come from James the fourth and Margaret Tudor, one of Henry the 8ths sisters and Mary Queen of Scots illegitimate elder brother who was regent. There must be thousands of us now.
I really enjoyed this video. Throughout the years I've seen this movie and this documentary .With a little bit of this and a little bit of that... but you gave us the truth of it all. Thank you very much.
This might be off-topic, but I feel like I need to say this. Aside from being a bad husband and a rotten person, Henry topped it off by being a terrible king and father, too. It may have taken him ages to finally get the son he wanted (and in the end, he really didn't need), but also he neglected to actually use hid daughters to gain advantageous marriages to help England gain support. And the thing is, it wasn't because he was considering the possibility that his daughters would have been unhappy in a political marriage. It's more like he just didn't care enough about them in any way at all. Both girls were betrothed as children, but after their mothers were tossed aside, Henry made zero efforts to do anything at all with them. Mary was practically considered to be an old spinster and past her prime by the time she finally was married, and although Elizabeth seemed to be content without marriage, both girls led rather lonely lives into adulthood. It's quite sad, to be honest. I'm not saying that them being married would have been the end-all solution to all of their unhappiness, but I think it would have been much better than the solitary lives they led at their father's court, especially for Mary. Having to live in a place where she was constantly disrespected, neglected, and was the constant target of her father's lifelong resentment, simply because Mary's mother used the last years of her life to defy Henry. Not to mention the endless fear she must have had to feel with her own father, always threatening to have her executed for any sign of disobedience. She would have been much better off being far away from that man.
@@gailowenby7869 Undoubtedly. If she had more than one son, that son might have taken the throne after Edward's death. History could have been so different.
That's an interesting idea, I suppose it's possible considering Elizabeth couldn't really see many suitable candidates within those descended from her family. James was a good choice considering who there was to pick from.
I also like to think that Elizabeth really, like for real, didn't want to go through the same problems with Mary Queen Of Scots again and having to break the promise she made! like all of her actions are evidence of how much she preferred Mary and Stuarts as her heir and really didn't want anyone to come on the way.
I think she saw how marriage ruined her mother, sister, cousin, and all her step mothers and she knew she had to choose the throne and her longevity or a life as a wife. She chose to be a queen.
Hi, awesome live history video. I enjoyed it. How are you and Mallard your cat doing? I'm doing well, and so is my cat Benjamin. We both enjoy watching your live history videos. Elizabeth, the first, remained single all threw her life. That's amazing. In the next video in the future, could you do Lettuce she was a lady in waiting to Elizabeth the first. She lived a long life from the 16th century to the 17th century. Have a great day. See you next video 😊
Hi Michelle, I'm glad you and Benjamin are doing well! We're all doing well this side of the pond, Mallard is enjoying watching the birds in the garden starting to make nests. ☺ Thank you for the suggestion, I will add Lettice to my list as well.
Dan Snow (I THINK it was him, not sure) said that a lot of Elizabeth’s reign was based on insecurities and non action. I think her marriage policy is a great example of that. For fear of this or that, Elizabeth ended up rejecting one suitor after another (problems with what the people would think [though she did not shy away from having one man’s hand cut off for making a print condemning the possible marriage between her and the Duke of Anjou] or because they might meddle in her affairs, because some counsellors didn’t like it, etc…) Ultimately that insecurity with her position and wanting to maintain it is, imo, what led to her never marrying.
@@DarthDread-oh2ne Hello :) hope you are well. Personally, I’m not so sure, because while it ultimately worked out in her situation, it could very well have been terrible, and there are lots of cases in which it turns out to be bad
Please, she did not want to be taken advantage of. As well as being told what to do. Her father's treatment of her mother and most of the women he was involved with. Elizabeth could see how women were treated, so the only way to avoid being treated like a second-class citizen was not to marry.
@@HistorysForgottenPeople You are fantastic 😊 Thank you again for the incredible content. You do such a great job of presenting topics that aren’t as well known - at least for silly Americans like myself lol
I think I felt sorry for Duke of Anjou most of all😅He was screwed over by literally everyone. his mother, his brother, The Dutch (if you know more details about 80 years war) and even by Elizabeth herself, even though the romantic attraction growing between them was obvious
Same here! I think he would have really tried to make her happy as well, although I can understand Elizabeth being nervous of Francois' ambitious streak.
Why did Queen Elizabeth I never marry? That is one of the easiest questions to answer. Everyone has their limit as to just how much BS they can stand. I reached my limit in 2012. Single & celibate since then.
Even though Elizabeth I also helped fund the African slave trade 😒, who can blame her for not wanting to ever marry seeing how her father treated his wives when he was done with them? 🥴🤦🏽♀️ Marriage back then seemed real inconvenient to women in my opinion.
Why would she, a queen regnant, marry? A husband would assume superiority over her and desire to become not just king consort but king, with her being relegated to the birthing chamber and her embroidery. Who would she marry? She was Protestant. The only Protestant man of suitable status was the King of Sweden. So he had his own realm, would he become king of England as well and where would that place Elizabeth? The situation has arisen even recently, when Princess, later Queen Elizabeth (II) married Prince Phillip of Greece. He wanted to be named king consort but was denied; he was angry that his children would take their mother’s surname, she being the bearer of the lineage not him. Also the husband of Queen Margarethe of Denmark was in the same dilemma. Her husband was only Prince, not king. His ego was dented. He refused to even be buried with her. She couldn’t marry a Catholic, he would be expected to convert her - and her country - to the one true faith, reinstall the Inquisition etc etc. She couldn’t marry one of her subjects, that would cause all kinds of drama given that she, as a wife, would be subservient to her husband. Not only that, but whatever English nobleman she married his House would be elevated above all others and there would be all kinds of stresses amongst the nobility. My personal thought is: I have a relative who is amenorheahic. I suggest that Elizabeth I was also (suggestions that she was a man, or maybe just a tomboy). If that was the case, and she’d be obviously aware of the condition, then knowing there was no chance of bearing an heir to HER throne to carry on the TUDOR lineage, why would she subject herself to the indignities of marriage to a man who expected to impregnate her, supplant her on the throne, and all the questions and accusations of your being barren (because it was always the woman’s fault - per her own father’s various wives)?
I would think it's bc a lot of the time these ppl died early and suddenly and also typically the royals were not raised by their parents alot of the time they barely seen the parents... I believe it was to give them something just in case
Firstly it was done to keep the children safe. Royal courts in Tudor times still moved around and staying in one place was calmer and safer. It was also an educational measure. Princes and princesses would one day rule over their own courts and realms and were expected to learn how to govern a number of courtiers and staff from an early age. So by having their own households royal children could grow up in peace and be educated for their future roles.
As @misschievous6194 says, part of the reasons were to educate them on how to run their own household, and it allowed them to have a settled household. Their royal or noble parents would often be on the move, away at war, or simply travelling, and so it would be difficult to take them with them - Isabella of Castile is an unusual example of someone who brought her children with her when she was moving around. And @spliffany1985 says, it also gave the children a steady household of people who they knew and saw as family. Often the bond with a governess or nursemaid would emotionally be stronger than to parents. Other reasons could include keeping them safe from illness, such as with Edward VI. Courts were full of people, and as such, could be hotbeds for disease when it passed through somewhere like London. Keeping the children in a household far away from this centre reduced the chances of them dying off from it.
I've never heard of that many women having that many miscarriages with just one guy. What goes with that? Eliz knew about power, men and war. Being alone was the only choice that would save her life and her country.
I forgot the question😭 But I did have it ready lol :) With Wolf Hall rage, people seem to start to like Thomas Cromwell and dislike Thomas More. So for this week (Ig you can figure what the next one will be hehe), what do you think of Thomas Cromwell? Personally I don’t buy Hillary Mantel’s perspective. He was undoubtedly intelligent, but intelligence, when used for harm, isn’t that big a virtue (yes, he used it to serve Henry and lead him down certain paths, but come on serving Henry VIII is hardly morally good💀). I think he was a calculating man, and a ruthless one at that.
Hmm, this is a tough one! I go back and forth a lot with Cromwell even in my own head. He's definitely someone who had both good and bad points - a true neutral, perhaps? 😂 I think ultimately, Thomas Cromwell was a good servant. He did exactly as he was asked, when asked, and he didn't ask why. The problem with this is that you hit a lot of people on the way up when you do things without regard for the feelings or well-being of others just to serve your master, and they wouldn't forget it. I don't think he was really a good person or a bad person, but rather someone who wanted to get as much as possible on his rise to power. I agree he was ruthless and calculating - much like many lawyers today! 😂 I don't think, like many others at court, Cromwell really pinpointed someone and decided to take them down. Even Anne Boleyn, who he became a famous enemy of. I think had Henry told him to leave her alone, Cromwell would have done, regardless of his personal feelings. The only real animosity he had in his life was the Church, and that - like with everyone - was a product of events in his younger years. When he was able to though, I've no doubt he threw everything at putting Anne to one side. By all accounts, he was also kind to his family and was a loving father, and he was perfectly decent to those who were his friends. I do also think that although Cromwell's downfall was less to do with choosing Anne of Cleves and far more to do with his Catholic-leaning enemies at court wanting rid of him, it was also a fitting end. He had done things that were not fair, and in return, karma dealt him a death that wasn't fair, balancing it all out. It's so hard to really decide what my feelings on Cromwell are, but I certainly don't like him. I can't fully bring myself to dislike him, either, because I think he was just one of hundreds of people in history just doing the best they could....I think I probably would have just steered clear of him, anyway!
If one was a monarch, I doubt it was for the best. A monarch has two main duties: maintain the Nation’s independence and providing it with an heir to continue it. Elizabeth succeeded in the former, but not in the latter, and, had things been different, her death may have unleashed a civil war, or James may have favoured Scotland over England (but James didn’t even favour Scotland and it’s culture when he was only King of Scotland so that didn’t happen). It worked out in this situation (although James was a sh*t King), but it was a matter of luck.
Elizabeth I was totally opposite of her paternal grandmother, Elizabeth of york Her grandmother was submissive and obedient and doesn't have much political power . She was only dedicated to her family . I have never seen her in any of the political matter .
@@anweshabiswas1483 yes, I don’t think she was very involved with politics, I mean I’m sure she played the part of the merciful Queen, but other than that seemed content with the less political duties of a Queen Consort. I’ve such a soft spot for that woman honestly, she seems to have been so kind, and the way her marriage- one of the most arranged political marriages in History, and between two opposing factions at that- ended up being a loving relationship shows, I believe, the willingness and effort of both her and Henry VII to love one another. No clue how they ended up creating Henry VIII💀
@@lfgifu296 Yes , she was far away from politics. She was devoted to her children , household and had been very kind to her servants . As the reports say I now wonder how her father and uncle would react on seeing this from heaven ? 😐😐
LOL I always say if I went back in time I just want to be the tavern-keeper's wife. Comfortably well-off enough, not nobility or peasantry, so a lower chance of having my head lopped off, and everyone likes the person who serves beer. 😂😂😂
The thing about her saying she would never marry is unlikely to have happened. It's just a good story, like Christina of Milan and her three heads statement. She was too young and too far removed from the situation an there isn't evidence. The most scarring thing was probably the problems Mary had establishing herself as first woman in the kingdom. Also vanity. Once she was married, she could no longer play the game of men adoring her. And we know she was a vain woman.
If anything Elizabeth I is the perfect example of not needing to rely on a husband to rule a whole country effectively. Sure she may have had a few serious considerations for a husband but in the end she was like “nah I’mma do this by myself” 😂
Calls the British xenophobic for not wanting a Spanish king, then lists all of the reasons it was a bad idea and burned the Brits in the backside when Mary did it. 🙄. Maybe it was just common sense. A foreign king - especially one who is king of his own country is probably pretty likely to do things for the advantage of his native country first and put the new country second. After all, they accepted Catherine of Aragon, didn’t they? Last time I checked she was foreign to them.
Elizabeth had brown eyes, not blue (re: opening image with the potential husbands all lined-up behind her). And that's before I even listen to the content...
Actually, it's not 100% certain what her eyes were, but contemporary descriptions place them somewhere between blue and grey (difficult still for AI to make something between those two neatly). The colours in older paintings often fade or change, which led to a belief she may have had brown eyes a long time ago.
She wasn't England's most famous Queen, Queen Elizabeth 11, much more famous and also Queen Victoria, much more famous, you and this site talk bollocks
Too tempting for someone to seize power, especially if she had given birth to a boy. Elizabeth was no fool. Ask Mary Stuart about dangers in the marriage market .
All she had to do was look at her mother Anne Boleyn being decapitated for the crime of being his wife (ok, for the false crimes of adultery and incest but mainly the real crime of not bearing a male heir).
@@glendabarton1914 What I meant was as a queen regnant Elizabeth could not afford to be the pawn of men in the marriage market. Mary followed a woman's heart and lost. Elizabeth followed an English heart and if not won, she survived to rule a great nation.
And Mary Tudor
Having Thomas Seymour chasing her in her stepmother, Katherine Parr's household, would have put her off of marriage also.
I agree with you.
Gee, her dad went through six wives, beheaded two INCLUDING HER OWN MOM, and women were considered the property of their husbands. I can’t imagine why a ruling monarch would want to stay single under those circumstances?🙄
I don't know why any one wonders why Elizebeth didn't marry, like Henry the 8th as your father wasn't enough? My only question was did she refuse to marry because every important woman in her life was died because of he father either by child birth or failure to create a son? Maybe the fact that she had every reason in the universe not to believe in the sanctity of marriage, or church, or men!?! Perhaps it was the likelihood that as soon as she married her husband would if popular be a constant threat to her life and power and what if all he wanted to do was rule her, and by that rule England? Fear of death by child was a rational fear for a monarch because infant and mother mortality was high and two of the important women in her life died by child birth, or even revenge on her father by ending his line??? However I suspect it was a combination of all of those plus by the end I believe she believe she was married to England. Ho thats rite I had almost forgotten she had likely been molested by her step mothers new husband who's interest in her cost her place in the household of one of the last important woman in her life! I wonder how she could have hoped to rein, marry, and have children, with some one who would once married to her, became her biggest threat, to her power and respect, her very throne, possibly even her life its self, its happened? For her it was a no win situation. Im sure there were times she wished she were not Queen but she seemed to take the job seriously until she died. You gotta respect that.
I wonder why people think she was a great queen when she screwed over her own military and made all catholics suffer for what a few religious radicals did.
because the dynasty was in her hands - ie having babies. Also, if she had died there could have been a civil war, with no clear successor. They cared a lot about church then too. Church was everywhere. Plus marriage was a method of creating political alliances. Had she not been a bastard she would have been married off as a teenager. Had Mary had a child she would have married Elizabeth off once she had an heir
She ended Henry’s line…..well played.
Henry the 8ths line, but Henry the 7ths line is still kicking around if you consider just the blood and not legitimate male lines, 😜. I come from James the fourth and Margaret Tudor, one of Henry the 8ths sisters and Mary Queen of Scots illegitimate elder brother who was regent. There must be thousands of us now.
She didn’t though cause the current royal family is between Tudor and Scot’s
@@catmomma6202The current royal family descend from an obscure German branch of the family.
Elizabeth was quite intelligent. She never intended to marry. All of those suitors were strategic moves. 🙌
I think Elizabeth was VERY intelligent , not 'quite'
Because she had a very negative opinion of marriage, because she had to watch her mother and third stepmother be executed for pissing off her father!
Hit the nail right on the head. Don't forget she saw her cousin Mary Stuart of Scotland screwed over by both her husbands.
Really enjoyed watching this in depth video after yesterday's poll question!
Thank you, I'm glad you enjoyed it! 😊 I know she's not a 'forgotten' person, but it's been requested a lot, haha.
I really enjoyed this video. Throughout the years I've seen this movie and this documentary .With a little bit of this and a little bit of that... but you gave us the truth of it all. Thank you very much.
It's a shame school's think teaching our GREAT history to pupils is 'unwoke'
Amen to that.
This was really fun to listen to! I did know most of it already, but I adore world history, so it's a win IMO😊. Thank you for sharing your talent
This might be off-topic, but I feel like I need to say this.
Aside from being a bad husband and a rotten person, Henry topped it off by being a terrible king and father, too. It may have taken him ages to finally get the son he wanted (and in the end, he really didn't need), but also he neglected to actually use hid daughters to gain advantageous marriages to help England gain support. And the thing is, it wasn't because he was considering the possibility that his daughters would have been unhappy in a political marriage. It's more like he just didn't care enough about them in any way at all. Both girls were betrothed as children, but after their mothers were tossed aside, Henry made zero efforts to do anything at all with them. Mary was practically considered to be an old spinster and past her prime by the time she finally was married, and although Elizabeth seemed to be content without marriage, both girls led rather lonely lives into adulthood. It's quite sad, to be honest. I'm not saying that them being married would have been the end-all solution to all of their unhappiness, but I think it would have been much better than the solitary lives they led at their father's court, especially for Mary.
Having to live in a place where she was constantly disrespected, neglected, and was the constant target of her father's lifelong resentment, simply because Mary's mother used the last years of her life to defy Henry. Not to mention the endless fear she must have had to feel with her own father, always threatening to have her executed for any sign of disobedience. She would have been much better off being far away from that man.
I'm glad somebody else acknowledges what a,horrid father he was.
Oh, trust me, there's no love lost for Henry VIII on this channel. 😂 I absolutely agree with this!
Extremely well said. 5 star!
It’s also possible that if Mary had been married as a young woman she might have been able to have children.
@@gailowenby7869 Undoubtedly. If she had more than one son, that son might have taken the throne after Edward's death. History could have been so different.
I also believe that Elizabeth wanted to put an end to the Tudor line of succession.
Tutors. Ending their reign over England.
a perfect revenge against her dear old father, since his obsession was the male Tudor line
That's an interesting idea, I suppose it's possible considering Elizabeth couldn't really see many suitable candidates within those descended from her family. James was a good choice considering who there was to pick from.
It wouldn't shock me if that's true.
I also like to think that Elizabeth really, like for real, didn't want to go through the same problems with Mary Queen Of Scots again and having to break the promise she made! like all of her actions are evidence of how much she preferred Mary and Stuarts as her heir and really didn't want anyone to come on the way.
I think she saw how marriage ruined her mother, sister, cousin, and all her step mothers and she knew she had to choose the throne and her longevity or a life as a wife. She chose to be a queen.
I actually don’t blame her for not getting married…you couldn’t trust anyone back then. There was always someone plotting against you
I was totally wanting to know this! Thank-you!!! ❤️
You're welcome, I'm glad you enjoyed it! ☺
Hi, awesome live history video. I enjoyed it. How are you and Mallard your cat doing? I'm doing well, and so is my cat Benjamin. We both enjoy watching your live history videos. Elizabeth, the first, remained single all threw her life. That's amazing. In the next video in the future, could you do Lettuce she was a lady in waiting to Elizabeth the first. She lived a long life from the 16th century to the 17th century. Have a great day. See you next video 😊
Hi Michelle, I'm glad you and Benjamin are doing well! We're all doing well this side of the pond, Mallard is enjoying watching the birds in the garden starting to make nests. ☺ Thank you for the suggestion, I will add Lettice to my list as well.
I wonder if her stepmothers advised her to not marry?
Dan Snow (I THINK it was him, not sure) said that a lot of Elizabeth’s reign was based on insecurities and non action. I think her marriage policy is a great example of that. For fear of this or that, Elizabeth ended up rejecting one suitor after another (problems with what the people would think [though she did not shy away from having one man’s hand cut off for making a print condemning the possible marriage between her and the Duke of Anjou] or because they might meddle in her affairs, because some counsellors didn’t like it, etc…) Ultimately that insecurity with her position and wanting to maintain it is, imo, what led to her never marrying.
Hi friend ! I think it was A wise decision
@@DarthDread-oh2ne Hello :) hope you are well.
Personally, I’m not so sure, because while it ultimately worked out in her situation, it could very well have been terrible, and there are lots of cases in which it turns out to be bad
No doubt but given her time with Seymour; I don’t blame her.
@@DarthDread-oh2ne Seymour was so bad oml😭
Fun fact: did you know, Catherine the great experience a similar situation.
28:57 - "fewer offers" never " less offers"… thank you for your videos. I enjoy your work very much.❤😊
Please, she did not want to be taken advantage of. As well as being told what to do. Her father's treatment of her mother and most of the women he was involved with. Elizabeth could see how women were treated, so the only way to avoid being treated like a second-class citizen was not to marry.
I only clicked on this because of the Judy tag. I have no idea about music but i found this fasinating 😊
Another gem from one of my favorite channels! Could you do a video on Harleva, mother of William the Conqueror (and my 26th great grandmother lol)?
I've got her on a list, so she is going to be in a video at some point, I promise. ☺
@@HistorysForgottenPeople You are fantastic 😊 Thank you again for the incredible content. You do such a great job of presenting topics that aren’t as well known - at least for silly Americans like myself lol
I think I felt sorry for Duke of Anjou most of all😅He was screwed over by literally everyone. his mother, his brother, The Dutch (if you know more details about 80 years war) and even by Elizabeth herself, even though the romantic attraction growing between them was obvious
Same here! I think he would have really tried to make her happy as well, although I can understand Elizabeth being nervous of Francois' ambitious streak.
Beautifully done and presented as usual!
Thank you, I'm pleased you enjoyed it! 😊
Where do you find these pictures anyway?
Well, knowing her dad had her mom's head chopped off... may have put her off the whole marriage thing, maybe...
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@@Butterflypegasus40 oh no I live in the states however I have been to Great Britain several times if that counts 😂
Awww, thank you so much! That's kind of you to say. 😊
@@HistorysForgottenPeople I also checked out your store yesterday & bought a wrap canvas of “Don’t Lose Your Head”, 😂
@@HistorysForgottenPeople I like that you explore figures from all different eras and countries.
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You're welcome, I'm glad you enjoyed it! 😊
Why did Queen Elizabeth I never marry? That is one of the easiest questions to answer. Everyone has their limit as to just how much BS they can stand.
I reached my limit in 2012. Single & celibate since then.
29:14 "and the idea of marrying him gave the English Queen obvious ick"
The sheer anachronism made me giggle.
I do like throwing anachronisms in sometimes to check everyone is listening! 😂
@@HistorysForgottenPeople I had heard that modern English started under Elizabeth, but I had no idea it went that far.
Even though Elizabeth I also helped fund the African slave trade 😒, who can blame her for not wanting to ever marry seeing how her father treated his wives when he was done with them? 🥴🤦🏽♀️ Marriage back then seemed real inconvenient to women in my opinion.
I feel kinda bad for the Little Frog. 😭
Same here! I honestly think he really did fall in love with her, by all accounts.
Why would she, a queen regnant, marry?
A husband would assume superiority over her and desire to become not just king consort but king, with her being relegated to the birthing chamber and her embroidery.
Who would she marry?
She was Protestant. The only Protestant man of suitable status was the King of Sweden. So he had his own realm, would he become king of England as well and where would that place Elizabeth? The situation has arisen even recently, when Princess, later Queen Elizabeth (II) married Prince Phillip of Greece. He wanted to be named king consort but was denied; he was angry that his children would take their mother’s surname, she being the bearer of the lineage not him. Also the husband of Queen Margarethe of Denmark was in the same dilemma. Her husband was only Prince, not king. His ego was dented. He refused to even be buried with her.
She couldn’t marry a Catholic, he would be expected to convert her - and her country - to the one true faith, reinstall the Inquisition etc etc.
She couldn’t marry one of her subjects, that would cause all kinds of drama given that she, as a wife, would be subservient to her husband. Not only that, but whatever English nobleman she married his House would be elevated above all others and there would be all kinds of stresses amongst the nobility.
My personal thought is: I have a relative who is amenorheahic. I suggest that Elizabeth I was also (suggestions that she was a man, or maybe just a tomboy). If that was the case, and she’d be obviously aware of the condition, then knowing there was no chance of bearing an heir to HER throne to carry on the TUDOR lineage, why would she subject herself to the indignities of marriage to a man who expected to impregnate her, supplant her on the throne, and all the questions and accusations of your being barren (because it was always the woman’s fault - per her own father’s various wives)?
I never understood why they gave their babies their own households?
I would think it's bc a lot of the time these ppl died early and suddenly and also typically the royals were not raised by their parents alot of the time they barely seen the parents... I believe it was to give them something just in case
Firstly it was done to keep the children safe. Royal courts in Tudor times still moved around and staying in one place was calmer and safer. It was also an educational measure. Princes and princesses would one day rule over their own courts and realms and were expected to learn how to govern a number of courtiers and staff from an early age.
So by having their own households royal children could grow up in peace and be educated for their future roles.
As @misschievous6194 says, part of the reasons were to educate them on how to run their own household, and it allowed them to have a settled household. Their royal or noble parents would often be on the move, away at war, or simply travelling, and so it would be difficult to take them with them - Isabella of Castile is an unusual example of someone who brought her children with her when she was moving around. And @spliffany1985 says, it also gave the children a steady household of people who they knew and saw as family. Often the bond with a governess or nursemaid would emotionally be stronger than to parents.
Other reasons could include keeping them safe from illness, such as with Edward VI. Courts were full of people, and as such, could be hotbeds for disease when it passed through somewhere like London. Keeping the children in a household far away from this centre reduced the chances of them dying off from it.
If you ask me that's why a lot of royal children died.
I've never heard of that many women having that many miscarriages with just one guy. What goes with that? Eliz knew about power, men and war. Being alone was the only choice that would save her life and her country.
My favorite Queen - and she's a Virgo!
I forgot the question😭 But I did have it ready lol :)
With Wolf Hall rage, people seem to start to like Thomas Cromwell and dislike Thomas More. So for this week (Ig you can figure what the next one will be hehe), what do you think of Thomas Cromwell? Personally I don’t buy Hillary Mantel’s perspective. He was undoubtedly intelligent, but intelligence, when used for harm, isn’t that big a virtue (yes, he used it to serve Henry and lead him down certain paths, but come on serving Henry VIII is hardly morally good💀). I think he was a calculating man, and a ruthless one at that.
Hmm, this is a tough one! I go back and forth a lot with Cromwell even in my own head. He's definitely someone who had both good and bad points - a true neutral, perhaps? 😂
I think ultimately, Thomas Cromwell was a good servant. He did exactly as he was asked, when asked, and he didn't ask why. The problem with this is that you hit a lot of people on the way up when you do things without regard for the feelings or well-being of others just to serve your master, and they wouldn't forget it. I don't think he was really a good person or a bad person, but rather someone who wanted to get as much as possible on his rise to power. I agree he was ruthless and calculating - much like many lawyers today! 😂
I don't think, like many others at court, Cromwell really pinpointed someone and decided to take them down. Even Anne Boleyn, who he became a famous enemy of. I think had Henry told him to leave her alone, Cromwell would have done, regardless of his personal feelings. The only real animosity he had in his life was the Church, and that - like with everyone - was a product of events in his younger years. When he was able to though, I've no doubt he threw everything at putting Anne to one side. By all accounts, he was also kind to his family and was a loving father, and he was perfectly decent to those who were his friends.
I do also think that although Cromwell's downfall was less to do with choosing Anne of Cleves and far more to do with his Catholic-leaning enemies at court wanting rid of him, it was also a fitting end. He had done things that were not fair, and in return, karma dealt him a death that wasn't fair, balancing it all out. It's so hard to really decide what my feelings on Cromwell are, but I certainly don't like him. I can't fully bring myself to dislike him, either, because I think he was just one of hundreds of people in history just doing the best they could....I think I probably would have just steered clear of him, anyway!
Do you plan to do thomas more?
little did her parents know that she would lead england to a golden age
She's reunited with her mom AND dad.
It is very much better to remain single than get married.
If one was a monarch, I doubt it was for the best. A monarch has two main duties: maintain the Nation’s independence and providing it with an heir to continue it. Elizabeth succeeded in the former, but not in the latter, and, had things been different, her death may have unleashed a civil war, or James may have favoured Scotland over England (but James didn’t even favour Scotland and it’s culture when he was only King of Scotland so that didn’t happen).
It worked out in this situation (although James was a sh*t King), but it was a matter of luck.
@@lfgifu296 Absolutely correct 💯💯
Elizabeth I was totally opposite of her paternal grandmother, Elizabeth of york
Her grandmother was submissive and obedient and doesn't have much political power . She was only dedicated to her family . I have never seen her in any of the political matter .
@@anweshabiswas1483 yes, I don’t think she was very involved with politics, I mean I’m sure she played the part of the merciful Queen, but other than that seemed content with the less political duties of a Queen Consort.
I’ve such a soft spot for that woman honestly, she seems to have been so kind, and the way her marriage- one of the most arranged political marriages in History, and between two opposing factions at that- ended up being a loving relationship shows, I believe, the willingness and effort of both her and Henry VII to love one another.
No clue how they ended up creating Henry VIII💀
@@lfgifu296 Yes , she was far away from politics. She was devoted to her children , household and had been very kind to her servants . As the reports say
I now wonder how her father and uncle would react on seeing this from heaven ? 😐😐
Would be fascinating to go for a day in that era to see the people,clothing and lifestyle. Probably I will be beheaded after an hour there 😅
LOL I always say if I went back in time I just want to be the tavern-keeper's wife. Comfortably well-off enough, not nobility or peasantry, so a lower chance of having my head lopped off, and everyone likes the person who serves beer. 😂😂😂
@@HistorysForgottenPeople That's a good idea 🤣.
Why dudnt dshe marry? Because 1) she saw how her I wn father treated his wives. 2) She didn't want to share power with a husband.
The thing about her saying she would never marry is unlikely to have happened. It's just a good story, like Christina of Milan and her three heads statement. She was too young and too far removed from the situation an there isn't evidence. The most scarring thing was probably the problems Mary had establishing herself as first woman in the kingdom. Also vanity. Once she was married, she could no longer play the game of men adoring her. And we know she was a vain woman.
If anything Elizabeth I is the perfect example of not needing to rely on a husband to rule a whole country effectively. Sure she may have had a few serious considerations for a husband but in the end she was like “nah I’mma do this by myself” 😂
She was totally in love with Robert Dudly and would probably have married him had he not been married and the issues over the death of his wife.
Calls the British xenophobic for not wanting a Spanish king, then lists all of the reasons it was a bad idea and burned the Brits in the backside when Mary did it. 🙄. Maybe it was just common sense. A foreign king - especially one who is king of his own country is probably pretty likely to do things for the advantage of his native country first and put the new country second.
After all, they accepted Catherine of Aragon, didn’t they? Last time I checked she was foreign to them.
Man doesnt change. He was a.preaditor.
She impresses me as a Sigma Female, with little need for a marriage to an ambitious man.
Elizabeth had brown eyes, not blue (re: opening image with the potential husbands all lined-up behind her). And that's before I even listen to the content...
Actually, it's not 100% certain what her eyes were, but contemporary descriptions place them somewhere between blue and grey (difficult still for AI to make something between those two neatly). The colours in older paintings often fade or change, which led to a belief she may have had brown eyes a long time ago.
Having red hair think her eyes would have been blue,who knows,but then her mum was dark eyed,
Elizabeth I had BROWN eyes!!!
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She didn’t marry because she didn’t want to be overshadowed by a man, who would take her throne in effect.
She stayed unmarried to prove a point
My literal first thought was, she wasn't the most powerful woman in the world because she was stupid
Why do you think she was stupid? Can you speak 6 languages, write several books ?
@@kathrynburton7167 Girl read it again
Don’t she very famously have scaring from small pox? Isnt it why she started leaning so hard on the makeup?
She wasn't England's most famous Queen, Queen Elizabeth 11, much more famous and also Queen Victoria, much more famous, you and this site talk bollocks
Why is the thumbnail Sydney Sweeney as Elizabeth I
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