I had a turbo Falcon and now have a Stinger. The Stinger really feels like a modern day Falcon. Probably the only thing I miss is the sound of the Barra, but the luxuries of the Stinger more than make up for it. The Falcon didn't even have basics like keyless entry or paddle shifters, let alone android auto, 360 cam, HUD, and all the other luxuries the Stinger has.
Awesome review Ross, agreed with everything you said. They’re great cars and just the perfect all rounder (especially the AWD models). Shame they are under appreciated due to the number of badge snobs out there who can’t see past the Kia badge which as well and truely established itself as a legitimate great car brand for nearly a decade now
I always felt like the Stinger was the spiritual successor to the OG F6 Typhoon. Kia really nailed the perfect car and this final Stinger GT is the best bang for buck sedan out there.
Enjoyed the review of the Stinger GT, Ross. I agree, it is a shame that they aren’t going to be made anymore. It’s a great rear wheel drive car. We see a few of them in our area and they’re a good looking car. I’d agree they should have dialled the interior down a bit to appeal to more people that were after a alternative to the simpler Falcon and Commodore. They could have done more to price match the Falcon the Commodore of the day too. Thanks for the review.
Criminally underrated car - too many people see the Kia badge and write it off. I'd have to say though, price wise it's quite comparable to the G6E-T, actually a bit cheaper - and if I recall correctly, the XR6-T would also have been a similar price given inflation. Perhaps they could have made a more "base model" with the 3.3 turbo, but I think the bigger problem is the market for sub $100,000, sporty new saloons is just very, very small nowdays when everyone in that $50-$100K is buying chubby SUV's.
Traded in my '05 Mustang for a '23 AWD GT2 last weekend. Not only is it a complete step up in terms of technology in the car, but it also feels 1000 times better to drive imo. Looking forward to keeping it for as long as possible. Sucks that these sold so badly, people have been missing out on the Stinger.
Great review. Kia claim 4.7 seconds from 0-100. There are videos where people have done it in 4 seconds using a stock Kia GT. I have pushed mine and low 4's are very attainable. I have constantly said it since I got mine in 2020. This is the best value car on the road when all things such as performance, standard equipment, warranty, driving experience, and price is considered. Nothing comes close. The worst thing about driving this gem is having to get out of it. I have done several Sydney to Melbourne trips in mine, and it is so comfortable and such a great drive. Not to mention it is a rocket in luxury clothing.
I was an accessory fitter for Kia and these had a bimodal exhaust option and sounds absolutely amazing with them fitted, also these cars do have launch control if you’re unaware and when you launch it all I can say is wow😮💨
@@RossReviewsau they are a very underrated car for sure! I used to love working on them and the noise they make when fitted with the bimodal exhaust is just awesome in my opinion! And would you believe the engines in them are actually just a strengthened Hyundai Santa Fe engine… Iv herd of owners pushing over 500rwkw out of them with simple bolt on’s and retune It really is a shame that Australians didn’t catch on to these weapons because of the stigma around the kia name😕 considering the warranties and quality you get it’s really unfortunate Kia didn’t better advertise and promote them..
@@easyaussietarget3355 it was a Australian factory option as far as I’m aware, they are manufactured in Melbourne and are Kia approved… depending on what series stinger you have will depend on what kit is needed, to everyone’s surprise they are not just a simple bolt in and off u go thing.. series 1 u basically dismantle the entire dash and rear end as the bimodle system is integrated into the cars mode options so needs to be incorporated into the cars systems, series 2 is a little bit easier to integrate as it is wired into the crash avoidance system behind the rear bumper, last I knew i still held the record for fastest installation on the s1 at 4h 6min
I used to own a 2010 Forte EX that did very well for me surprisingly and in some of their worst years too! Upgraded to a 2022 Stinger Scorpion AWD all black and I try to find excuses everyday to go out and drive it. The launch control really pushes it to 4.6s with the AWD version and if you want to drive it like a grandpa, you can. That twin turbo makes it so the power is always there no matter the RPMs, one kicks in at around 1k rpm, the second kicks in at around 4.5k rpm. So the car just always wants to go no matter how fast you are going. It will downshift itself pretty hard as if it knows your intentions. The torque vectoring on the transmission is a bit rough when trying to be a slow and low RPM driver. It will hit that 2nd gear pretty early when trying to stop at a stop sign in a 50km-30km road. It is as if you need to drive it somewhat hard and push the brakes pretty hard before the 2nd kicks in lol. Great daily, great road trip car. Handles realllllllly well for its weight class. Something tells me that long wheelbase has to do a lot with the 50/50 weight distribution. The engine is far behind the front wheels too, kind of like BMW does it. It is hard to get out of for certain people but it is worth it. All the luxuries and safety features you can ask for, especially in the GT2 trim. Most issues can be fixed via quick RUclips or forum search, there are a lot of tinkerers out there.
@@RossReviewsau You’re right it’s a shame some badge snobs should open their eyes and minds. There are amazing vehicles out there that will give our BARRAS a run for their money.
Got my stinger last friday, took 7 months, one of the last batch shipped to AU. Now when i get in my commodore it feels slow and sluggish. This thing moves. I have no regrets with my purchase!
Great review. I thoroughly enjoyed my drive in that beautiful Stinger Gt. It is a fantastic car to drive with nice acceleration when you want more. I would buy one.
Just traded in my 2019 Stinger GT for the limited run 2023 Stinger Tribute Edition (498/1000). I never thought I'd own the last of a line, but... It certainly wasn't lack of sales, the dealerships couldn't keep these things on the lot.
I sat in one at the dealers the other day and with the seat fully down my head still hit the roof hard. Then sat in a Cerato next to it and had heaps of headroom (not that I’d buy a Cerato but just sat in for comparison). Such a shame as I’d love a Stinger!
I had that problem too at 6'5. I ended up getting a Cerato GT which has plenty more head room with all the luxury bits and still gets up and goes well. The Stinger is a whole different beast though.
I know I'm late to the comments, but KIA UK killed it off nearly two years ahead of everywhere else. Seems like they never wanted the car to begin with.
Yeah Johnny what a bloody shame that they aren't making more because it's a great car they're fast & I really like their sporty looks too,anyway another one on the scrapheap how crazy 🤪ok take care man an excellent review as usual loved it brah 👍
Would love to see you do a review with a Stinger that has had some decent modifications, bit of extra power and a good exhaust note Would be good to compare against the stock one and also find out how much a good setup costs I'm a Holden V8 guy but I know damn well it's cheaper to make big power with turbo Barras, how would the Kia compare against the two in terms of cost of mods/power gained
im not sure about mods... i would think you could get some decent gainz.. but i would be surprised if it could match the Holden of Ford.. lets hope i can find a modified one soon
I was definitely interested in these when they came out at $60k but now they are over $80k.. no thanks. So many better options for that amount of money.
Was this AWD or RWD. I have a RWD and its quicker to 60. Great car for the money. I have 2018 and although prefer some of nice updates like screen etc i much prefer the back design and lights of older model. More unique! RWD is defintley more playful but fun!
If it was a couple 2 door it would have been a seller. But a sedan these days no matter if it’s 1000 kw it’s seen as a sedan, look at all the Euro big heavy sedans 2nd hand they don’t have a resale value. Cheers mate 🇦🇺
No. It's too late in England. My car lease ended in April and I asked the leasing company to get me a Stinger but Kia had pulled them by then. I'm gutted.
They killed off this kia stinger so that you are left with the genesis g80 as an option. Why would people buy a g80 which cost 2x more with basically the same power output? Performance? The g80 is based off the stinger or vice versa. So it makes sense to kill off the stinger n get buyers to buy the g80. Why would u buy a camry that has same power output and performance as a lexus priced 2x more right? Same power, same performance ?
I have a 2018 model Stinger GT Such an amazing, beautiful and sleek car. Kia really upped there game with this car, they went from the old budget type car manufacturer that no one gave a second thought about to one of the best premium brands today. Kia/Hyundai have upped there game big time producing some of the best cars in the modern day especially with there performance line-up with there Kia GT model of cars, and Hyundai’s N brand. You get amazing quality, fantastic interior and looking exterior, and performance equivalent to that of the big 3 German brands on a “budget” price tag compared to that of the European cars. When Kia/Hyundai hired Albert Biermann, a well-known German engineer who has had experience producing cars such as the Audi TT and BMW M division line of cars you knew that this once budgety brand was going to change for the better. I know if the Stinger had an AMG badge slapped on it, it would’ve been double the price it is worth. For 60-70k this car is an absolute bargain, and the performance is mind-blowing for its price tag. Who thought that one day your V8 Commodore or Ford Falcon XR8 or any hot hatch, sport sedan (Golf R/GTI, S3, WRX etc…) would get gapped at the lights by a Kia. This car was a game changer for the brand and deserved to continue for a 2nd generation but unfortunately nowadays all Aussies know to buy is just Utes and SUV’s which seems to be the trend these days, and these awesome looking sedans/fastbacks die so quickly which is a damn shame. One thing that annoyed me was that alot of people overlooked this car simply on name alone, badge snobbery runs deep with alot of people and only look at certain manufacturers on past reputation rather than what they are in the modern day. Every time I step into this car, it always puts a smile on my face because it is a special car and an absolute rocket. Only slight downside I would give is although the 8 Speed traditional torque converter auto does an exceptional job, I hoped Kia would’ve rather used a quick-shifting DCT just like they do in there Hyundai N performance cars, and that the car doesn’t automatically upshift for you in “manual mode” when you want to go for a spirited drive, I found that rather annoying, also if it had a better soundtrack for the engine note, a more throaty raucious vibe that would’ve been better, I don’t think pops & bangs would suit this car, it’s too mature and sleek and not boy toy hoon hatch racer, but other than that, fantastic car. At 9:30, the car does have a launch control mode, you put it in Sport mode, then hold the traction button for a couple of seconds to turn off the traction control and the ESC completely off. Then left foot brake and right foot on the accelerator as usual and “Launch control ready” should appear on the dash. Kia officialy claims this car to do 0-100 km/h in 4.9 secs although I’ve seen vids where people have clocked 4.7 on a good day, but regardless low 5’s/high 4’s for a car that weighs over 1800kg is nuts.
Australia doesn’t get the 2.5L turbo 4cyl Stinger, nor the AWD version. The only Stinger models available in Australia is the 3.3L TT V6 as per standard as well as a 2.0L turbo 4cyl variant carried over from the 3rd and 4th generation Kia Optima GT respectively, slightly tweaked by 2kW & 3Nm to make 182kW and 353Nm. Mind you the 2.0L versions of the Stinger were discontinued far earlier due to poor sales of that powertrain as many of the sales were obviously for the top of the line GT model with the 3.3L TT V6. The 2.5L turbo 4cyl was reserved for the Hyundai Sonata N Line, Kia’s sister company, and the Kia K5 (previously known as the Optima) which also didn’t make its way to Australian shores unfortunately because that car looks absolutely awesome, like Russell said lack of sedan sales have killed the market for these cars because the Australian clown market just loves there big utes and SUV’s, why, honestly I’d love to know why this ute trend has taken over. Clowns trying to speed past you and tailgate you in a 2 ton 4cyl turbo diesel as if they’re driving some sport car.
@@RossReviewsau dunno mate I wouldn't say it handles better than a i30n sedan... Maybe better than the i30n hatch which is on a older platform. The i30n sedan would slaughter this on track especially the DCT, it keeps up with the latest Honda type r / GR Corolla and the likes.. The stinger is just more a GT car .. It's definitely nicer inside but heavier. It shares the same platform as the genesis g70 which I've always loved.
Ford and Holden fan here. Not liking it because its a tiny v6. Also its all plastic. Not because its to advance. Also if anyone wants a family car they'll be looking into suv and dual cab. I daily a 2022 rogue and 2018 vx landcruiser. I kept my big rear wheel drive fgx xr8 and ve hsv maloo for the weekend.
I guess you haven't driven a stinger then. Im a holden fan, while it don't have the noise, it absolutely has the passion. Also, if anyone wants to buy an SUV or a Dual cab ute, they are just a fag who wants to fit in with the rest of the sheep. Let them do that. Real motor enthusiasts buy what makes them excited to drive.
1: there is dealer exhaust upgrade but really no matter how hard its been tuned its still a V6 which never sound good to begin with. 2: KIA for the AU market should of developed the Hyundai 5.0 "Tau" V8 engine for the Stinger, but someone in KIA HQ thought a V8 Stinger would not sell, well we know that a Twin Turbo V6 did not sell in big enough numbers either. 3: the transmission even with paddle shifters still does not allow drivers to hold gears even with the calibration update the transmission will still shift up gears when what you really want to keep the downshifted gear. 4: QLD Police hated driving them, many Highway police have reported that the Stingers were not up to the task. 5: Genesis still sells there "sedan" based version so at least you can still get that combo for the time being. and finally KIA name/branding, big mistake slapping on the KIA badge for our market, even the home market its has ZERO KIA badges on it. BONUS: The north American market got AWD, the lame reason why we did not was simply due to the RDH based steering rack not being designed for AWD because again someone in KIA forgot to allocated a budget for it. LAME DUCK.
People are very salty, that the Kia and Hyundai are killing the game. Your getting a lot of car for the money. Great carpet quality, great paint, great engine. This car is German designed.
I wont be in the market for a new car until 2024, so just peachy Kia is ending the Stinger this year. The GT1 was at the top of my list. Damn you SUV’s & EV’s. 😢
Another bad decision by Kia. They never marketed the car well enough in Australia, if they had , sales would have been better. I can only hope a sleek looking electric version is on the cards.
@@nigelsmith3247 - don't insult people because they disagree with you, I am 6 foot 2 and I hated sitting in the back seat of the Stinger, door opening too narrow and that coupe esq curve looks good but again you have to do gymnastics to be able to get in and get out of that rear passenger doors. Just a poor design, not well thought out at all.
The kia name just lets them down . Just like hyundai . They dumped their first junk on the country and the brands never came back . They arnt bmws or mercs thats for sure .
@@RossReviewsau I have loved the idea of this car since it was a focal piece of 2017. I had the chance to decorate one GTSpec for my best friends wedding...sway bars holding on to wedding streamers...my heart broke as I stared knowing I'd never own one but the imperious nature of a South Korean car manufacturer to take on the Mercedes (which I love) and BMW (which I also love) dominant market of powerful family sedans gave me hope for the future of cars..and now that it is gone, my hear aches for the future of motoring...that we despite new GT GRMN 86 and 300KW Z models...we may never see the best lesser manufacturers have to offer...such as the full spec GT Stinger in all it's fuck you glory.
Here in America, The 2023 Kia Stinger GT2 is well known to have 450h.p. As Kia down rates these cars when they imported them to America so that "they" didn't have to pay the: "Gas Guzzler Tax". So, in short a 2023 GT2 Stinger, makes 450 H.P. At the Crank.
@@streetheat3366 I own an F80 m3 and my partner owns the refreshed stinger gt. I assure you that the quality of the cabin (maybe with the exception of the radio controls) is up to par. To be honest the leather in the stinger is better than the leather in my m3. Not to mention her stinger when comparing new to new was literally almost 30 grand cheaper, I think the stinger shoots way above its price range considering the mix of features, interior and performance.
@@kaoru1244 you’re actually delusional then and literally proved your own point. This is a budget sports luxury car which offers solid performance and a good platform for modifying. To get the same performance from an Audi you’d have to get an S5 and they retail close to twice the price bro lmao
@@kaoru1244 this performs better than the S5 is most scenarios and is a far better choice for the money 🤣 if anything it shows how stupidly overpriced all the euro sedans which this competes with are
@@kaoru1244 bruh literally look up Audi S5 vs Stinger GT a lot of people who review the car says the stinger feels more like a 420hp car vs the 370hp it has. Besides from a stage 1 tune like we did on my uncles stinger we got it close to 450hp which meant low 4s to 100. That’s fast for a RWD touring sedan. So yes it’s easy to modify on and get more power
I had a turbo Falcon and now have a Stinger. The Stinger really feels like a modern day Falcon. Probably the only thing I miss is the sound of the Barra, but the luxuries of the Stinger more than make up for it. The Falcon didn't even have basics like keyless entry or paddle shifters, let alone android auto, 360 cam, HUD, and all the other luxuries the Stinger has.
i can vibe with that
Does the LSD have a common issue?
The stinger definitely deserved a second generation attempt 😢
its sad it wont happen
Agreed, not a bad looking car, KIA should’ve kept it going, take kia badging off maybe just called it Stinger
@@redpepper7181hyundai->genesis
Kia->Stinger
I can dig it
It probably goes with electric, just like the name
Awesome review Ross, agreed with everything you said. They’re great cars and just the perfect all rounder (especially the AWD models). Shame they are under appreciated due to the number of badge snobs out there who can’t see past the Kia badge which as well and truely established itself as a legitimate great car brand for nearly a decade now
cheers mate glad you enjoyed the review.. its sad they will be gone
Well done Kia, you’ve officially killed your best car!
Nah, the suv sheep did
it honestly was a fantastic car.. very tight and the handling was spot on.. speed everything except the sound.. but yeh sad to see this go
@@Oni____ Exactly ! The stupid American soccer mom's only want SUV's 😩
I've heard that an ev version is in the making
@Imalizardperson I have a 2022 stinger gt and if they made it into an EV that would be an insult
I saw a ‘23 GT2 grand tourer edition in my area back in March and jumped on it. HiChroma Red. I’m in love.
I always felt like the Stinger was the spiritual successor to the OG F6 Typhoon. Kia really nailed the perfect car and this final Stinger GT is the best bang for buck sedan out there.
i can def see that
Enjoyed the review of the Stinger GT, Ross. I agree, it is a shame that they aren’t going to be made anymore. It’s a great rear wheel drive car. We see a few of them in our area and they’re a good looking car. I’d agree they should have dialled the interior down a bit to appeal to more people that were after a alternative to the simpler Falcon and Commodore. They could have done more to price match the Falcon the Commodore of the day too. Thanks for the review.
spot on Peter thanks as always for watching :)
Criminally underrated car - too many people see the Kia badge and write it off. I'd have to say though, price wise it's quite comparable to the G6E-T, actually a bit cheaper - and if I recall correctly, the XR6-T would also have been a similar price given inflation. Perhaps they could have made a more "base model" with the 3.3 turbo, but I think the bigger problem is the market for sub $100,000, sporty new saloons is just very, very small nowdays when everyone in that $50-$100K is buying chubby SUV's.
Traded in my '05 Mustang for a '23 AWD GT2 last weekend. Not only is it a complete step up in terms of technology in the car, but it also feels 1000 times better to drive imo. Looking forward to keeping it for as long as possible. Sucks that these sold so badly, people have been missing out on the Stinger.
very different cars.. both good but yes this is a much better package i think.. the stinger is fantastic to drive
Does the LSD have common issues?
Great review. Kia claim 4.7 seconds from 0-100. There are videos where people have done it in 4 seconds using a stock Kia GT. I have pushed mine and low 4's are very attainable.
I have constantly said it since I got mine in 2020. This is the best value car on the road when all things such as performance, standard equipment, warranty, driving experience, and price is considered. Nothing comes close.
The worst thing about driving this gem is having to get out of it.
I have done several Sydney to Melbourne trips in mine, and it is so comfortable and such a great drive.
Not to mention it is a rocket in luxury clothing.
I believe that’s possible all day.. incredibly fast car
I was an accessory fitter for Kia and these had a bimodal exhaust option and sounds absolutely amazing with them fitted, also these cars do have launch control if you’re unaware and when you launch it all I can say is wow😮💨
Really I couldn’t find out how to use it! Still 5seconds flat nearly was very impressive 👏
@@RossReviewsau they are a very underrated car for sure! I used to love working on them and the noise they make when fitted with the bimodal exhaust is just awesome in my opinion! And would you believe the engines in them are actually just a strengthened Hyundai Santa Fe engine…
Iv herd of owners pushing over 500rwkw out of them with simple bolt on’s and retune
It really is a shame that Australians didn’t catch on to these weapons because of the stigma around the kia name😕 considering the warranties and quality you get it’s really unfortunate Kia didn’t better advertise and promote them..
@Ashley Baldwin Was the bi modal exhaust a factory option or aftermarket please?
@@easyaussietarget3355 it was a Australian factory option as far as I’m aware, they are manufactured in Melbourne and are Kia approved… depending on what series stinger you have will depend on what kit is needed, to everyone’s surprise they are not just a simple bolt in and off u go thing.. series 1 u basically dismantle the entire dash and rear end as the bimodle system is integrated into the cars mode options so needs to be incorporated into the cars systems, series 2 is a little bit easier to integrate as it is wired into the crash avoidance system behind the rear bumper, last I knew i still held the record for fastest installation on the s1 at 4h 6min
@@ashleybaldwin1906 It came standard with the Nightsky edition Stinger GT which I bought. Black with light grey interior.
Looks sensational
Great review Ross I bought a 2018 gt from new and still love driving it today I put twin air intakes to help it breath better
Nice work.. good cars
I used to own a 2010 Forte EX that did very well for me surprisingly and in some of their worst years too! Upgraded to a 2022 Stinger Scorpion AWD all black and I try to find excuses everyday to go out and drive it. The launch control really pushes it to 4.6s with the AWD version and if you want to drive it like a grandpa, you can. That twin turbo makes it so the power is always there no matter the RPMs, one kicks in at around 1k rpm, the second kicks in at around 4.5k rpm. So the car just always wants to go no matter how fast you are going. It will downshift itself pretty hard as if it knows your intentions. The torque vectoring on the transmission is a bit rough when trying to be a slow and low RPM driver. It will hit that 2nd gear pretty early when trying to stop at a stop sign in a 50km-30km road. It is as if you need to drive it somewhat hard and push the brakes pretty hard before the 2nd kicks in lol. Great daily, great road trip car. Handles realllllllly well for its weight class. Something tells me that long wheelbase has to do a lot with the 50/50 weight distribution. The engine is far behind the front wheels too, kind of like BMW does it. It is hard to get out of for certain people but it is worth it. All the luxuries and safety features you can ask for, especially in the GT2 trim. Most issues can be fixed via quick RUclips or forum search, there are a lot of tinkerers out there.
As ford man from a young age these Kia are amazing fast vehicles.
Just love ❤️ it.
gotta respect this car eh.. drove really well
@@RossReviewsau
You’re right it’s a shame some badge snobs should open their eyes and minds.
There are amazing vehicles out there that will give our BARRAS a run for their money.
I just sold my Stinger GT 2020 for a new 2023.. no regrets.. best car on the market..
they are fantastic
I literally just bought mine this past Friday I love it so far but we'll see how everything else goes yes it's pretty quick and very fun to drive!
Great buy! They are a blast eh
@@RossReviewsau absolutely lol not the fastest car around but fast either way and extremely fun
Got my stinger last friday, took 7 months, one of the last batch shipped to AU. Now when i get in my commodore it feels slow and sluggish. This thing moves. I have no regrets with my purchase!
good stuff mate
It is unfortunate that Kia has killed off the Stinger but it still lives on as the Genesis (Hyundai) G80 Sport as it's based on the Stinger.
that is true! the G80 and GV80 are very nice.. (tho much more $$$)
Great review. I thoroughly enjoyed my drive in that beautiful Stinger Gt. It is a fantastic car to drive with nice acceleration when you want more. I would buy one.
they go well eh
Awesome car, love the Stinger, great review
Just traded in my 2019 Stinger GT for the limited run 2023 Stinger Tribute Edition (498/1000). I never thought I'd own the last of a line, but... It certainly wasn't lack of sales, the dealerships couldn't keep these things on the lot.
I would 100% say that was a good move.. the stinger will go down in history as a great car that was misunderstood
I sat in one at the dealers the other day and with the seat fully down my head still hit the roof hard. Then sat in a Cerato next to it and had heaps of headroom (not that I’d buy a Cerato but just sat in for comparison). Such a shame as I’d love a Stinger!
I had that problem too at 6'5. I ended up getting a Cerato GT which has plenty more head room with all the luxury bits and still gets up and goes well. The Stinger is a whole different beast though.
that is a problem you guys have said.. i fit but im just under 6ft
Sweet ride
Lovely car
Love the Stinger great looking cars always catches my eye when I see one especially if it's a nice colour
they do come in some very nice colours
I recently fitted an MBRP cat back to my Stinger GT and now it sounds like it performs.
Nice! That would make a big difference
I know I'm late to the comments, but KIA UK killed it off nearly two years ahead of everywhere else. Seems like they never wanted the car to begin with.
Damn that sucks was a good car
I totally agree 100%!! They never promoted nor publicised the Stinger at all !!
UK is so close to Europe :)
I got mine 4 months ago. Love it!
Good stuff
We don't get the 4wd versions down here in New Zealand. But there is a good group of owners that get together and talk tuning.b
Yeah Johnny what a bloody shame that they aren't making more because it's a great car they're fast & I really like their sporty looks too,anyway another one on the scrapheap how crazy 🤪ok take care man an excellent review as usual loved it brah 👍
its sad so many cars are dead now
I’ve got a 21 with 700Nm quick love it 😎🎼🤘🏻
They are great
Fuckin SUV market is killing these things. Such a shame.
its frustrating.. if we are gonna go down the SUV route at least give us more TrackHawks!
@@RossReviewsau Agreed, I'd even take some more wagons at this stage.
There is a Stinger in Australia that's got over 1000hp, forgot the workshop but seen the video a few days ago !✌👍
NO WAY! thats wild
I think is dynomotive stinger
This engine is also available in the Sorento without the turbo, and it makes it pretty damn quick
i have seen them yet to drive one tho
2015 sorrento sx 168,000 miles and starts up no problem.
3.3 v6
Would love to see you do a review with a Stinger that has had some decent modifications, bit of extra power and a good exhaust note
Would be good to compare against the stock one and also find out how much a good setup costs
I'm a Holden V8 guy but I know damn well it's cheaper to make big power with turbo Barras, how would the Kia compare against the two in terms of cost of mods/power gained
im not sure about mods... i would think you could get some decent gainz.. but i would be surprised if it could match the Holden of Ford.. lets hope i can find a modified one soon
I was definitely interested in these when they came out at $60k but now they are over $80k.. no thanks. So many better options for that amount of money.
I want to but im only 19 😭😭😭 im buying one as soon as i get outta college though. Most likely second hand.
you got this!
Great review. Can’t work out this guys accent😂
🤣 Canadian mix Aussie
@@RossReviewsau that’ll explain it haha
Was considering one, but a quick look at the current prices, dealers are asking up to 88k
Damn they gone up eh
@@RossReviewsau seems so, maybe they think being the final cars people will pay extra, not sure. But I would not pay 88k for one
The reason why the stinger feels euro is kia poached 1 of the lead designer s from BMW'S design team
You are correct! Definitely improved the feeling of quality inside there entire range
Got mine
good stuff
Was this AWD or RWD. I have a RWD and its quicker to 60. Great car for the money. I have 2018 and although prefer some of nice updates like screen etc i much prefer the back design and lights of older model. More unique! RWD is defintley more playful but fun!
RWD
Thanks for the content!
If it was a couple 2 door it would have been a seller. But a sedan these days no matter if it’s 1000 kw it’s seen as a sedan, look at all the Euro big heavy sedans 2nd hand they don’t have a resale value. Cheers mate 🇦🇺
I clicked your drive link and am buying a used Stinger for my son lol it's a farkin good car!
🙏🙏🙏 get the $150 fuel car 👀
Want another son? Lol
@@2jztheworld361 LMAO I have 7 kids all over the world. Fark what's one more haha
@@MrHeath1971 I promise I can tidy after myself 😂 count me in haha
@@2jztheworld361 LMAO okay but I won't tolerate any step sister shenanigans under my roof haha
I guess it's sad but probably the stinger will become something collectable in the future?? But nice fast car that has the best of both worlds.
Get one before the dealer wount provide the parts for it anymore , i don't think so 😅.
No. It's too late in England. My car lease ended in April and I asked the leasing company to get me a Stinger but Kia had pulled them by then. I'm gutted.
🥲 all the good cars are dead or dieing
Does anyone know why they are not going to make them anymore? Serious question. I was was thinking about getting one.
Not enough sales I think 🥲
Have to stick with the baby Stinger the Cerato GT.
I’m keen to try one eh
They killed off this kia stinger so that you are left with the genesis g80 as an option.
Why would people buy a g80 which cost 2x more with basically the same power output? Performance?
The g80 is based off the stinger or vice versa.
So it makes sense to kill off the stinger n get buyers to buy the g80.
Why would u buy a camry that has same power output and performance as a lexus priced 2x more right?
Same power, same performance ?
thats true but G80 is much more money :(
Does it do a fat skid?
It will..
Good video, you’d get mid-high 4s if you used the launch control feature properly but good video nonetheless.
It’s very quick! Definitely a high 4 is achievable
All good until something goes wrong mechanics hate these things
That’s true.. I don’t know the what they are like to work on
How about the 2.5 stinger?
Never tried one before
I really like the sporty interior 👍
It’s beautiful inside
There isn't many new performance cars in that price range, which is a shame.
Completely true and all that were around before are quickly going away 😢
would get one but in nsw can’t legally drive it on my ps
🥲 move to WA
@@RossReviewsau i would if i could afford to😥
Stinger or RCF ? Ross have you ever driven a Lexus RCF ? From a reliability and availability point of view they are looking attractive
I would love to try an RCF unfortunately haven’t been able to yet…
@@RossReviewsau Plenty on market not moving , prices are coming down , value prop they are looking really good.
I have a 2018 model Stinger GT
Such an amazing, beautiful and sleek car. Kia really upped there game with this car, they went from the old budget type car manufacturer that no one gave a second thought about to one of the best premium brands today. Kia/Hyundai have upped there game big time producing some of the best cars in the modern day especially with there performance line-up with there Kia GT model of cars, and Hyundai’s N brand.
You get amazing quality, fantastic interior and looking exterior, and performance equivalent to that of the big 3 German brands on a “budget” price tag compared to that of the European cars. When Kia/Hyundai hired Albert Biermann, a well-known German engineer who has had experience producing cars such as the Audi TT and BMW M division line of cars you knew that this once budgety brand was going to change for the better.
I know if the Stinger had an AMG badge slapped on it, it would’ve been double the price it is worth.
For 60-70k this car is an absolute bargain, and the performance is mind-blowing for its price tag.
Who thought that one day your V8 Commodore or Ford Falcon XR8 or any hot hatch, sport sedan (Golf R/GTI, S3, WRX etc…) would get gapped at the lights by a Kia. This car was a game changer for the brand and deserved to continue for a 2nd generation but unfortunately nowadays all Aussies know to buy is just Utes and SUV’s which seems to be the trend these days, and these awesome looking sedans/fastbacks die so quickly which is a damn shame.
One thing that annoyed me was that alot of people overlooked this car simply on name alone, badge snobbery runs deep with alot of people and only look at certain manufacturers on past reputation rather than what they are in the modern day.
Every time I step into this car, it always puts a smile on my face because it is a special car and an absolute rocket.
Only slight downside I would give is although the 8 Speed traditional torque converter auto does an exceptional job, I hoped Kia would’ve rather used a quick-shifting DCT just like they do in there Hyundai N performance cars, and that the car doesn’t automatically upshift for you in “manual mode” when you want to go for a spirited drive, I found that rather annoying, also if it had a better soundtrack for the engine note, a more throaty raucious vibe that would’ve been better, I don’t think pops & bangs would suit this car, it’s too mature and sleek and not boy toy hoon hatch racer, but other than that, fantastic car.
At 9:30, the car does have a launch control mode, you put it in Sport mode, then hold the traction button for a couple of seconds to turn off the traction control and the ESC completely off. Then left foot brake and right foot on the accelerator as usual and “Launch control ready” should appear on the dash.
Kia officialy claims this car to do 0-100 km/h in 4.9 secs although I’ve seen vids where people have clocked 4.7 on a good day, but regardless low 5’s/high 4’s for a car that weighs over 1800kg is nuts.
How about the 2.5 stinger?
Australia doesn’t get the 2.5L turbo 4cyl Stinger, nor the AWD version.
The only Stinger models available in Australia is the 3.3L TT V6 as per standard as well as a 2.0L turbo 4cyl variant carried over from the 3rd and 4th generation Kia Optima GT respectively, slightly tweaked by 2kW & 3Nm to make 182kW and 353Nm.
Mind you the 2.0L versions of the Stinger were discontinued far earlier due to poor sales of that powertrain as many of the sales were obviously for the top of the line GT model with the 3.3L TT V6.
The 2.5L turbo 4cyl was reserved for the Hyundai Sonata N Line, Kia’s sister company, and the Kia K5 (previously known as the Optima) which also didn’t make its way to Australian shores unfortunately because that car looks absolutely awesome, like Russell said lack of sedan sales have killed the market for these cars because the Australian clown market just loves there big utes and SUV’s, why, honestly I’d love to know why this ute trend has taken over. Clowns trying to speed past you and tailgate you in a 2 ton 4cyl turbo diesel as if they’re driving some sport car.
@@GoogleAccount-pt4zu so you’re from Australia then?
Have they not been saying they're gonna kill the stinger for the last three years???
Great car. Chose the i30n sedan instead. Bigger inside and more fun on the Twisties
I30N is a good competitor (manual) but I feel like this is a little nicer inside and handled better but i will absolutely agree the i30n is more fun
@@RossReviewsau dunno mate I wouldn't say it handles better than a i30n sedan... Maybe better than the i30n hatch which is on a older platform. The i30n sedan would slaughter this on track especially the DCT, it keeps up with the latest Honda type r / GR Corolla and the likes..
The stinger is just more a GT car ..
It's definitely nicer inside but heavier.
It shares the same platform as the genesis g70 which I've always loved.
Will be classic in 20 years
I don’t doubt it
Ford and Holden fan here. Not liking it because its a tiny v6. Also its all plastic. Not because its to advance.
Also if anyone wants a family car they'll be looking into suv and dual cab. I daily a 2022 rogue and 2018 vx landcruiser. I kept my big rear wheel drive fgx xr8 and ve hsv maloo for the weekend.
I guess you haven't driven a stinger then. Im a holden fan, while it don't have the noise, it absolutely has the passion.
Also, if anyone wants to buy an SUV or a Dual cab ute, they are just a fag who wants to fit in with the rest of the sheep. Let them do that. Real motor enthusiasts buy what makes them excited to drive.
Is this faster than an Evo X ?
Stock??? Straight line maybe.. anything else doubtful
great car....shame will be the last
very sad
Stinger is one best drivers car by far. M3 c63 should be worried you pay twice as much yet stinger is if not better. Aresome aresome car.
Was a great car shame discontinued
1: there is dealer exhaust upgrade but really no matter how hard its been tuned its still a V6 which never sound good to begin with.
2: KIA for the AU market should of developed the Hyundai 5.0 "Tau" V8 engine for the Stinger, but someone in KIA HQ thought a V8 Stinger would not sell, well we know that a Twin Turbo V6 did not sell in big enough numbers either.
3: the transmission even with paddle shifters still does not allow drivers to hold gears even with the calibration update the transmission will still shift up gears when what you really want to keep the downshifted gear.
4: QLD Police hated driving them, many Highway police have reported that the Stingers were not up to the task.
5: Genesis still sells there "sedan" based version so at least you can still get that combo for the time being.
and finally
KIA name/branding, big mistake slapping on the KIA badge for our market, even the home market its has ZERO KIA badges on it.
BONUS:
The north American market got AWD, the lame reason why we did not was simply due to the RDH based steering rack not being designed for AWD because again someone in KIA forgot to allocated a budget for it.
LAME DUCK.
How come they don't made anymore?
didnt sell enough i guess
People are very salty, that the Kia and Hyundai are killing the game. Your getting a lot of car for the money. Great carpet quality, great paint, great engine. This car is German designed.
i wont lie.. this car was VERY GOOD
I wont be in the market for a new car until 2024, so just peachy Kia is ending the Stinger this year. The GT1 was at the top of my list. Damn you SUV’s & EV’s. 😢
I've seen the tribute addition on RUclips
much extra?
@@RossReviewsauonly 1000 made globaly I think
Fake bonnet vents says it all..
Another bad decision by Kia. They never marketed the car well enough in Australia, if they had , sales would have been better. I can only hope a sleek looking electric version is on the cards.
It’s sad to see it go.. definitely was not marketed correctly
My next car
Good car!
Damn this clown world
its so damn SAD...
Unfortunately the stinger is not designed for anyone over 6'2" tall , no head room which puts it out for me ever.
that is a fair point i guess.. im just under 6ft
I’m 6’4 and have no problem fitting in mine.
@@nigelsmith3247 - yeah but you don't sit in the backseat, try it, I bet you wont be able get in or out not without doing some gymnastics.
@@351tgv what drugs are you on, I get in and out of it everyday with no problem
@@nigelsmith3247 - don't insult people because they disagree with you, I am 6 foot 2 and I hated sitting in the back seat of the Stinger, door opening too narrow and that coupe esq curve looks good but again you have to do gymnastics to be able to get in and get out of that rear passenger doors. Just a poor design, not well thought out at all.
The kia name just lets them down . Just like hyundai . They dumped their first junk on the country and the brands never came back . They arnt bmws or mercs thats for sure .
You are fucking kidding...FINALLY A CHALLENGER TO THE STATUS QUO THAT WAS AWESOME AND IT'S FUCKING GONE
ikr... how annoying a second gen would have really been amazing
@@RossReviewsau I have loved the idea of this car since it was a focal piece of 2017. I had the chance to decorate one GTSpec for my best friends wedding...sway bars holding on to wedding streamers...my heart broke as I stared knowing I'd never own one but the imperious nature of a South Korean car manufacturer to take on the Mercedes (which I love) and BMW (which I also love) dominant market of powerful family sedans gave me hope for the future of cars..and now that it is gone, my hear aches for the future of motoring...that we despite new GT GRMN 86 and 300KW Z models...we may never see the best lesser manufacturers have to offer...such as the full spec GT Stinger in all it's fuck you glory.
You need a script mate
The thing about "clown world" is Kia have multiple ev's that are bigger and probably quicker.
they do have the EV6 that i reviewed.. (not a bad car tho it was slower the one i had anyway)
Clown world indeed. The world has gone to hell in a hand basket.
Yup 🫠🥲
C'mon mate you can do better
Where's the AU's
Driving over 100,000,000 not falling to pieces
this was a good car
Here in America, The 2023 Kia Stinger GT2 is well known to have 450h.p. As Kia down rates these cars when they imported them to America so that "they" didn't have to pay the: "Gas Guzzler Tax". So, in short a 2023 GT2 Stinger, makes 450 H.P. At the Crank.
The GT2 has the same engine as the Tribute. No off the lot Stinger has 450HP. That's Aston Martin territory.
Driven one and it was alright. Build quality absolute garbage with cheap plastics and poor build quality. Expect to have plenty of warranty returns.
U must’ve hopped in the cheapest model
i cant comment on reliability but this was honestly a really tight feeling car.. was premium to me
WTF, theres no way you think the Kia has poor build quality. It literally feels like a bmw 3/4 series inside with hints of mercedes and audi.
@@kds8709 it’s nothing like an BMW or Audi. Driven an M4 and M5 as well as an R8 quality vehicles. The KIA is mutton dressed up as lamb.
@@streetheat3366 I own an F80 m3 and my partner owns the refreshed stinger gt. I assure you that the quality of the cabin (maybe with the exception of the radio controls) is up to par. To be honest the leather in the stinger is better than the leather in my m3. Not to mention her stinger when comparing new to new was literally almost 30 grand cheaper, I think the stinger shoots way above its price range considering the mix of features, interior and performance.
Good thing they stopped making this abomination it doesn't make any sense I'm rellay glad it got discontinued
In a world full of generic SUVs this Stinger was much needed
And what do you drive 💀
@@kaoru1244 you’re actually delusional then and literally proved your own point. This is a budget sports luxury car which offers solid performance and a good platform for modifying. To get the same performance from an Audi you’d have to get an S5 and they retail close to twice the price bro lmao
@@kaoru1244 this performs better than the S5 is most scenarios and is a far better choice for the money 🤣 if anything it shows how stupidly overpriced all the euro sedans which this competes with are
@@kaoru1244 bruh literally look up Audi S5 vs Stinger GT a lot of people who review the car says the stinger feels more like a 420hp car vs the 370hp it has. Besides from a stage 1 tune like we did on my uncles stinger we got it close to 450hp which meant low 4s to 100. That’s fast for a RWD touring sedan. So yes it’s easy to modify on and get more power
Can’t find them anywhere in Massachusetts and the only one is the gT1 for 42,000 lol 😊
🥲
Need sound otherwise wastes of money and time
Exhaust and intake would fix that
@@RossReviewsau do ya know anyone with one that got mods like that not newer one but anyone