Fuel Moto Power Vision Review with M8 114 S&S 475 Cam
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- I have been struggling with different tuners, trying to get my cam dialed in. I ended up with a Power Vision and map from Fuel Moto and OOOMMGG!! My bike is a complete beast now!! Check out their site or give them a call... you won't regret it!
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I had fun listening to you having fun! Ride Safe brother.
I can relate to your experience. I have a 17 fatboy s with the 117 kit upgrade and d&d boarzilla exhaust. Had it dyno tuned at a local shop and the numbers were lower than expected. Also my bike had a lot of decel pop and didnt seem to run smooth. So I ordered my power vision from fuel moto with their tune and it made my bike run much better. To top it off I bought target tune to compliment the power vision which enabled me to fine tune their tune. took about 14 revisions of auto tuning and I feel the bike runs amazing. I should have went this route from the start. Instead I wasted 800 bucks on a bad dyno tune and had my bike run like crap for about 500 km. You should look into target tune. it works together with the power vision and makes your tune better and better. Also it corrects the bikes air and fueling in real time anytime altitude, humidity changes. ride safe, cheers.
Thanks for sharing this! I'll definitely check out the target tune. 😋
Just finished doing mine 2020 114 475 s&s with fuel moto power vision I can’t believe how much louder that cam made the bike it really screams
I need this
Fuel Moto is the greatest! I've done many builds using their recipes and never had a failure.
Been searching for vids with this exact build.. Just completed my s&s 475 swap, and am waiting for my slimline dual header .. I didn't buy my dynojet directly for fuelmoto though, so when I went to their site I see I cant get my tune from them. They direct me to Dynojet. I really hope when I call them tomorrow I'm able to get the correct tune for this build. You had me smiling with your excitement, and I really hope to get that same feeling once I'm done and tuned. I don't want to have to go through a bunch of tunes because I'm just not that tech savy...
FUEL MOTO is the best! I rebuilt my entire bike 114 to their 128 kit.
👍👍Your M8 is how they should all sound. Be interesting to see the power curve of your setup from a dyno graph.
Check out all the addition gauges that the Powervision can provide. Being on a RK it is handy.
I leave mine mounted while I ride. Engine, temperature, head Temperature, rpm, gear indication etc etc.
Ordered a Dynojet PV2B from Fuel Moto for my 18' FLTRX when I got it new. Got a tune from fuel moto for it after doing exhaust and air cleaner, it was a noticeable felt difference in response from throttle. Ran a few auto tunes and it ran even better.
I am getting the Red Shift 468 cam installed in April and requested a tune for the setup I have from fuel moto. I got the tune in the next day and have it saved to install once I have the cam in. It will just be the cam, high flow air cleaner, gutted stock headpipe and tab performace exhaust with louvered baffles.
Will load there tune and also do several auto tune runs on the bike, just the basic one I have not gotten the wide band sensor kit yet. I also like that fuel moto will take you're data logs and help build a tune on top of the auto tune as well.
Hi Harley Dave, liked & Subscribed, just got same setup, loving my 2020 RoadGlide 114 even more ❤, looking forward to all your content, Ride Hard💪🏼, Be Blessed 🙏🏽,Aloha Kenneth 🤙🏽
Sounds good man! Having the Wood Performance 22X-E cam installed right now at my local Harley dealer with the powervision on the way! Bought the cam, S&S oil pump & cam plate & chain tensioner from FuelMoto. Bought the PV-2B from Amazon for $274.00 after discounts...you got me REAL excited! Ditching my FP3 & will call fuelmoto for a custom tune.
Sounds like a solid setup!!
@@harleydave2316 Your bike sounds like a solid Harley! LOL
How did you make out? 2021 Ultra, did a SE stage 3 122 kit. Underwhelming, adding Woods-22xe kit when 2021 tuner info is released. Do you like the Woods cam?
@@funhumanusa 22x-e is amazing!! specially at 3K rpm's & up. You can really feel the power. I could not be happier!!
I just ordered mine from fuelmoto because they would put a tune in it. They had it in the mail the next day. Can't wait for a good tune to go with my stage 1.
Great video I'm sold on your combo for my new 2020 Lowrider S...thanks Dave
OK!!! Laughs uncontrollably = Money well spent.
Thank you HArley Dave...Happy trails...
Great video, Enjoy your sharing the upgrades.
My PV Tuner from Fuel Moto with DUAL LICENSES & pre-loaded tunes specific to both of my bikes will arrive tomorrow.
I have a stock 2012 Fat Bob with American Freedom SLIP-ONS, plus a 2019 Harley Roadster with Stage 1 air breather & TBR 2n1 Exhaust Pipes just waiting to be risen from the dead! Neither are Stage 2 kits, but the PV Tuner is still going to make a significant improvement!
It really is that much of a difference. Got the 475 with a d&d an power vision she's a whole new bike I pull the front tire off the street often.
What a convincing sales pitch.
Hello Fuel Moto? I want one!
Thanks for the information about Fuel Moto giving you a map.
Nice one Dave. Up grades are great fun.
I have the same bike as yourself and have to say i love everything you have done to yours and will certainly be using some of these videos to get similar results, certainly the sound. (what ever is available in the UK anyway ha ha Thanks for sharing.
Great video! Your bike sounds awesome.
Thanks for stopping by, Tall!! Your new build is amazing! Stay safe out there... 😋
Yea fuel moto knows their shit I don't have a stage 2 done but a complete stage 1 done and it woke my bike up
tremendously also I recommend fuel moto to everyone now I'm sold
It's great to hear a guy so happy on his bike.
I love it!!! Great job!! I’m going to HD dealer today! Coronavirus or not!! Can’t wait to get my 19 RGS done!! Great video!!!
This video scared me...
I'm getting a 128" with the Wood 22X-E cam from Fuel Moto.
I've only ridden on a Stage I 107 with a crappy canned tune from the dealer.
You better hold on!! Bahaha
Just installed my Fuel Moto tune on my Heritage 114 with 475 cam all I can say is WOW the old FP3 is now a 400.00 code reader lol
Well the vision is a code reader too lol
getting ready to put 475 cam in my 114 do you still feel the dyno jet vision from fuel moto is the way to go
I would think that the problem with a dyno tuned,tune would be a change in altitude and would affect it..due to it's in ability to auto tune to the change in sea level..no doupt that a dyno tune is the best tune at that given point..but if you where to go on trip with a change in altitude I would think it would have an effect...I could be wrong..sou d good glad your happy with added power..I'm foing to check their site out..👍👍
I understand your point of view but don't know enough about that kind of stuff to agree or not. All I know is this completely changed my bike where the other 2 tuners couldn't even with an auto tune running. I'm incredibly happy now. :) thanks for watching!
The motorcycle still adjusts itself for those variables. Tune sets the map for optimal performance and the sensors on the motorcycle help keep the bike dialed into those settings.
There is a dead spot when you first crank on the throttle. When I did my stage 2 with S&S 465 cam, I got the Fuelmoto tune, and that was a turn-off for me. You just have to dyno tune it out. Excellent power on my 107 though. Sounded like a drag car to. Traded her in for a new 2021 road glide standard, and going Zipper 468 this time around. Still have my tuner, just have to buy another license first.
If you returned your old bike to factory you wouldn’t need another license.
i need to do the same for my electra glide.👍👍
Would have been nice to see the actual tune being flashed. Kind of skipped right over that.
There's lots of that to see on RUclips but very few people actually showed you there are results like this guy. This is the video that I wanted to see
The m8 114 is a fuking beast..... ive lost my hands when i rolled it wide open. B carefull its fuking fast and brutal.
Yo this was awesome! I know what I'm doing if I'm ever lucky enough to grab me one of those beauties!
Nice video, helps a lot because I was between tuners. What type of exhaust are you running (header and exhaust)? Sounds very good.
Love my Fp3 tuner
Don't let your idle RPMs get any lower, 950 is pretty low already and under that is not good for oil pressure, bad in the long run and rough on your motor.
Good video thanks for sharing
Thats awesome dude....ya dynojet makes good products...i have a pc5 on my 03 cvo road king...
Hi there..Firstly I’d like to say great video,thank you..I do have a question for you...Did you upgrade he cam plate and oil pump when you did your cam upgrade?Thank you..And regards,from Dave from Australia 🇦🇺
Greetings from the US and thanks for watching. I did not feel the need to change the oil pump or cam plate for a drop in cam. If I ever do more engine work, I might reconsider at that time.
I made the mistake of purchasing my Power vision tuner from. Revzilla and not fuel moto. Would you be willing to share your tune?
I have the target tune system as well so my tune file might cause damage to your bike if you didn't install that.
You can get a personalized tune for your Power Vision from Fuel Moto. Just drop them a line.
Fuel Moto will still make you tunes. $100 buy in for lifetime tunes
Nice job on the video.
Lol. That was awesome bro. Love that excitement. Can’t wait for mine to get in. Was that all you got done? Installed cams and tuned?? Amazing. 🤙🏾🔥
Thanks for the positive response. Yep, all motor performance work was just the 475 cam and tune. The M8's react awesome to this cam so you won't be disappointed!! 👍💯🐿️
Awesome. Cams are in the mail. Just waiting to pull the trigger on the dynojet. 🤙🏾
I have the Dyno Power Vision 3 and there is no tune listed for an S&S 475C cam for my 2017 Road King Special.
contact fuel Moto. They will help you.
Would be helpful to know your full set up of changes.
This is great! I’m ordering one right now. I have the FP3 and feel those same flat spots and it feels like it’s running hotter than before the came swap. Have you autotuned on this yet or just left as is?
I left the Fuel Moto map as it is. I could probably auto tune and get 1 or 2 numbers better on a dyno but not where I could feel the difference. My bike runs freaking awesome so I'm leaving it alone.
@@harleydave2316 thanks. One other question...since you had the FP3, did you revert back to stock tune on the FP3, then downloaded the new tune from the PV or just went straight to loading the new map on the ECM? Reason I ask is the PV will record the stock tune...but what stock tune? Original stock tune or does it think the tune from the FP3 is the stock tune? TIA.
@@PaulOnTheRun I went straight to the PV since my bike is cam'd so I'll never use the factory tune again.
@@harleydave2316 I came here to ask this exact question. Sounds like plug and play with my new tuner when I get it. Thanks, great video!
Would you look at that!! OK!!!OK!!! Lol good video glad you like your bike.
dave did you have to uninstall the fp3 tune back to stock then install the vision tune
Nope
Great vid!
I have a 2018 Fatty 475 S&S cam with Vance & Hines Eliminator 300's pipes and a Vance & Hines Fuelpak 3 autotune. I replaced the oil pump with the S&S one at the same time, as those earlier HD oil pumps suck I am told. Bike goes super well, but I am a bit disappointed with the Fuelpak 3, as I haven't been able to get it to autotune the complete matrix as advertised as hard as I try. Anyone out there that can add some pearls of wisdom on how best to do this? Maybe Fuel Moto is the answer....
Great info. I have a 2019 RGS with the 114, 475C cam, Fuelmoto SP header, high flow intake and Cobra neighbor haters. I’m using the FP3 tuner and I just doesn’t run right. There is a big flat spot at about 2800 rpm along with a lack of power below 3000 rpm. And overall the motor just seems inconsistent. I’m changing the Neighbor haters to FM High Rollers on Friday to see if it helps with the low end torque and if not I’m getting that PV tuner.
My question is would you say your tune is now smoother throughout the rpms?
Your statements are very similar to what I experienced with the FP3. I tried working with V&H and they adjusted the map several times. It was not smooth and and tame until about 3000 rpm when the power would kick in and push me in my seat. The PV tuner with Fuel Moto is simply amazing! It is smooth POWER all the way from crack of throttle in 1st gear though top end of 6th. I am sooo happy that I spent the money for that!!!
Harley Dave changed pipes to the Hi rollers from fuel Moto and got a lot of low end back. But there is still that dip at 3000 rpm, more noticeable in 1st and 2nd gear. So I’m getting the PV next. I keep watching your video and your bike seems so smooth through all the gears. How is Lucy been running since the new tune?
@@robertdavis5495 You won't regret it!!
Well I just sold my Cobra slip ons and I will order the Power Vision tomorrow. I can’t wait. Question, did you notice a heavy smell of gas with the FP3 tune? Because I’m almost getting light headed at stop lights. Are you expecting any overly heavy exhaust smell with the fuel Moto tune?
@@robertdavis5495 The heavy gas smell is from the poor tune the Fp3 provides. That will go away with the power vision.
Thank you for your quick reply..I have another question,did you replace push rods and / or Tappets? I am getting mixed messages from dealers..Some recommend upgrading,others say runs well with original equipment..How many miles on your upgrade now.Thanks Dave..
I replaced the trappets and those awful plastic cuffs with s&s parts. I used the stock pushrods because I don't trust adjustables. That's just my preference though. I have put on about 3k miles since this cam and it's doing awesome!! I'm very happy with that project.
I notice you have the V+H Power Duals, are you running the torquer 450 slip ons as well? So often we put too much effort and money into larger displacement when all we need to get awesome performance is good air in and out and a great tune! Thanks for posting your experience and results!
I have a modified version of Tabs Zombie slipons. They have a Vance and Hines baffle and DK Customs torque inserts in them. Awesome sound and performance!
@@harleydave2316 I ride a 2019 Road Glide Special, currently running factory head pipe with KromeWerks slip on's, that whats the bike had on it when I picked it up with 1100 miles on it. I have had almost every combo of head pipe, slip ons and baffles on my previous bikes, I like the look and sound of the KromeWerks slip ons, am hopeful they will match up well with the V+H PowerDuals head pipe. I really like the Power Vision tuner, I also had the S+S 475 on my last M-8 and really like it, I will reach out to fuel moto for the tuner when I decide on the head pipe.
Hey Harley Dave,
I have a FXLRS 114cui 2020. Also S&S 475cam, PowerVision, Stock filter, 2-1 pipe.
Do you want to share your map with me??
It was not possible for me to buy my PowerVision from Fuelmotousa, because they dont ship to Denmark. :/ So I had to buy from getlowered.
I want to use your map to a start, and then run a auto tune with my target tune. Its winter here in Denmark so I am about to install the cam next week :)
Hope you can help me to a good start.
- Søren
Just create a PayPal account with a different address than your own and fuelmoto will send you the map.
Love the video. Was wondering if you can share what the lowest rpm you can cruise at and the cam/engine is happy.
Thanks for watching! I'm not quite sure how to answer this. At 50 mph I tend to be in 4th gear @ 2600'ish rpm. At 60 mph I use 5th gear around 2500'ish rpm. I have been down to 2000 rpm before and it wasn't lugging on me. Does that help?
Harley Dave yes it does. Thanks a lot, ride safe
Okay
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Sounds great man. I've been debating this cam for a bit now. With stage 1 done I think this will be the next upgrade. Thanks for the video 👍
My buddy swears by the Power Vision,he even removed his speedo in his dash and replaced it with the Power Vision
Wow! Now that is a little extreme to me. I doubt I'll hook this up again unless I need to but it was well worth the cost for what it gave me with the map provided by Fuel Moto. Thanks for watching!!
Is this program available through dynojet? Can you share it? My power vision arrives in 2 days...
Hi Dave. Looking to do a similar setup on my Heritage with the exception of a bassani 2-1. I went to Harley and they said that they need to do some backwards wizardry installing a different tune to mask that it isn’t stage 2 and prevent it from “flagging” my bike and sending it to Harley corporate as they say. Did you do something different? Is this even a real thing? Thanks a bunch! You have a beautiful bike
I have never worked for Harley but that doesn't make sense to me. It's my understanding if you don't use screaming eagle tuners, it will flag it on their computer and auto report it to Harley Corporation. Not sure what kind of 'wizardry' they can do for that. I'd be curious if they would elaborate if you could share with us.
So I went back in to get some clarification. Essentially if you were to go out and by the screaming eagle tuner AND the power vision you can upload the SE tune and that will alert Harley corporate. No big Bc that one doesn’t void. From there you can upload a tune through power vision and there would be no way for the MoCo to differentiate between the tunes.
@@tarthuruttle1166 That is very interesting. I originally tried the Harley tuner, then the Fp3 and finally the power vision before I was happy with my tune. I wonder what Harley Corp would see from my bike. Lol Thanks for sharing this!!
@@harleydave2316 Not sure, but I do know one thing Dave. Like I said I have a 14 Fat Bob that looks exactly like yours. I'm looking to buy a 2020 Low Rider S, but I want to do an aftermarket big bore build. I found out that one particular dealership, Moonshine Harley Davidson in TN, will build you a wild engine AND they will cover the balance of your factory warranty themselves. Thinking about making the drive down there. They are the guys who did the 2 part M8 cam shootout, ruclips.net/video/vnBKzGMKL40/видео.html The 475 was one of the cams they covered, in case you're wondering. I'm still trying to pick a cam.
I live 80 miles from Zippers Performance, so I am also considering taking the Low Rider S down for their 128 kit stage III kit which comes with Red Shift 472. I'm sure they'll do it right.
@@pR1mal. MoonShine and Zippers are both solid companies and I watch both of their videos. I know Traveling Tall just did a Zippers sleeper build and loves it. Good luck with what ever path you choose! :)
Wished I had bought my new PV3 from Fuel Moto. I can't get a tune from Dynojet for my M8 107 with V&H Pwr Duals, 4.5" exhaust, SE Hi-Flow AC, and S&S 475C Cam. Anyone have a DST file for such a tune that has same cam ans similar setup they'd want to share?
you can buy tunes from fuel Moto
Hello, what's the exhaust set up do you have.?? Thank you..
Sweet ride... looks and sounds amazing!!!
Hi Dave, Greeting from Sydney. Wondering if you can help.
I have a 114 fxlrs running the power vision and 475 cam. My dealership done the installation but can't seem to find the tune on the dynojet site.
I would love to help you but we have different gearing so my map could potentially damage your bike if I sent you it. I bought my power vision from Fuel Moto and they provided the base map for me. Best thing I can recommend is a Dyno tune for you.
You have to buy the Dyno jet vision from Fuel Moto that’s the only way you can get the map Dyno jet does not carry it
Fuel Moto will still make you tunes. $100 buy in for lifetime tunes
Great Video
What made you choose the 475 cam over the S&S 550 cam?
The 550 is made for a high compression build so it wouldn't perform on my bike since I have stock heads.
Good luck with fuel moto “pre-mapped custom built dyno tested” stuff.
Last time I had one come in, it was a 107 STG 2 engine and the map was a 136 displacement. There is no such thing as “auto-tune” and, if there was, it wouldn’t change tuning constants like displacement. As the saying goes, “garbage in garbage out”.
That being said, PV is the best Harley tuner on the market IMO.
It doesn't sound like it you described it as garbage and then said still one of the best tuners.
I'm 100% sure if you talk to them they will make absolutely certain that you're taken care off.
I noticed that the Power vision is not on the bike , does it need to be attached all the time ? Thanks from Newfoundland canada >>
The PV does not need to be attached once you program the bike. It does have a lot of useful info though on running conditions of you want to keep it attached. I ended up putting it on my handlebars so I can view live data from my fuel tables. 😋
Thanks for the update , I have the FP3 also and rethinking it after watching your video ...
Doesn’t need to be!
Can you share this tune?
Okay! Holy Cow! Oh ,My Gosh! Yawn.
Did you get target tune or regular?
This video was the regular but I ended up adding the target tune later for my riding in diff parts of the country.
@@harleydave2316 do you feel it’s worth the extra? Can you buy the regular and add it later?
Is that with the TAB Slip Ons?
Yep
Sounds good.
Have to admit I couldn’t even watch the entire video because this guy is annoying. Which sad because I really wanted to learn about this fuel moto product and how much it enhances performance.
All you hear is… ok. Wow…. OK WOW!! Yeah this is different.
We already know it’s going to be different. It’s a new chic under you. Ride it but sheeshus Pete…. And the comment about I only have about 7% throttle… Are you kidding me?? Who the hell says 7% ??? What did you take a measurement of that before you made the video.
Cmon people you know it’s true and you’re annoyed with this video.
Keyboard warriors will always be around... thanks for supporting the channel anyway by watching the video. 😘
@@harleydave2316 great job I actually loved your excitement. Don't let the whiners get to you.
Hating on someone who's delighted is super annoying and extremely distasteful!
Oh the haters.
I liked it. Because it seems authentic and not a contrived response. It's kinda how I would react. You get that big smile and just start laughing because it surprised you and you wonder what else it can do. But I would have given it 90 percent throttle.
Doing a 124 Fuel moto kit on a 17 RK Special for a friend of mine. FM has been great to work with so far and I have heard great things from others too.
Little O
You just love wasting money ! FP3 has an autotune and you can correct the flat spot.
Now the PV is far superior I can’t argue that.
The FP3 auto tune didn't make a noticeable difference which is why I tried another tuner. I'm not sure if one is more superior but in my specific case, the PV made a great deal of more usable power. There have been times when I felt I waisted money 'screaming eagle tuner.. Cough.. Cough' but the PV was well worth it and I'd gladly do it again. Thanks for watching!!
Agree..FP3 also has a throttle mode..I have been hearing alot of people setting it to race..and the acceleration is crisp...