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Great review…appreciate you calling out the cons. Having used the Arccos system extensively for a year, I can say their platform is similarly challenged with capturing all of the shots accurately. This being said, the value a user can get out of strokes gained is immense if they are able to put the time into tweaking rounds, analyzing the data, and working on the areas of improvement that these apps can identify.
I enjoyed the review…however, I use the watch for the stats tracking and have found no issues. I upgraded for the old version as I lost the watch on a recent trip. Upgrading was easy and over the 50 or so rounds I’ve done now I have found no issues with it not picking up clubs. I don’t use it for keeping track of my score, I use a paper scorecard lol. The editing afterwards is not too difficult apart from as you say, you need to get a penalty shot in there. Overall the benefits of tracking my stats outweighs these issues.
Thanks for watching Graham and the feedback 👍 I think many will agree with you that the benefits outweigh the cons, but I think it’s important to share everything I experienced, both good and bad 👍
Your first negative about Pin Collect saying it it’s very accurate about 2 feet. To me that’s much more accurate than guessing where the pin was after the round. Secondly having to practice swing the club to pick up the club you’re hitting, I just hit the shot and it detects what club I just hit. Lastly not having Stapleford format isn’t a problem for most people. I for one have never used it. I love being able to see the shots I hit overlaid on the satellite image of the golf course.
Thanks for watching and sharing nbargolf. When it comes to the pin collect, I feel a margin for error of 2ft is significant, especially if it means I'm relying on stats telling me if the putts are long or short. I can only speak for my own experience, and I know there will be several shots a round which don't get picked up, and I have to consciously remember to do a purposeful practice swing. When it comes to Stapleford, it's a far more common game in the UK than the US, so for me and many others its a frustration.
@@GolfGuyReviews An error of 2 ft on a GPS location is too optimistic. Even military GPS cannot be that accurate. Civilian GPS error can be 10 ft. Which rather means that putting statistics in terms of distances for any GPS device cannot be totally reliable, no matter how much you pay for it.
I have one of these and it never misses a shot ... because it doesn't know if you've made a shot or not. The wrist band reads the club tag NOT if you make a shot, this is why Shot Scope tell you to make a few practice swings so the band can read the tag. Then you walk to your ball after you've hit it and the GPS reads where you are (therefore it reads distance hit) when you select your next club so NEVER EVER take out your club before you intend to use it as it messes up the shot record. If you were take out your driver, get the V3 to recognise it (display D on the screen) by taking a few practice swings, walk 300yds, pull out your 7 iron, take a few practice swings, walk 200yds to the green, pull out your putter, take a few practice swings and the press pin, you've just recorded an eagle on a par 5 without touching a ball or making a hit. You don't have to even wear it. As long as you hold the tag to the band so it recognises the club and after you hit the ball you walk to it, get the band to recognise the next club the GPS has registered the distance shot, calculates distance left etc and away you go.
Thanks for watching and sharing, very helpful. At the time of recording, I didn’t realise the tags are activated when in close proximity to the watch; as shotscope say to take a few practice swings I had wrongly assumed they were activated by the motion. I’ve since ensured I hold the tag close to the watch and it picks it up not a problem…so long as I remember to do that. And as you say, don’t change your mind once once you’ve registered your club 👍
@@GolfGuyReviews You can change your mind after a club has been registered because the watch registers only the last club used at a particular location. This gives rise to another issue, for example taking several shots to get out of a bunker. The watch registers a tag name and location. If the location is the same, only one shot is registered. This means you can have several practice swings without registering a shot but several bunker shots within less than about 10 yds of each other will be only one shot on the watch.
Getting the watch and the sensors for your clubs is definitely a great value for the price, however between the required practice swings and the editing in the app afterwards, that’s a big time investment. Certainly with these types of products you’d hope that the tracking is easy and intuitive. Maybe other more costly units do it better? Or perhaps we’re not quite there with the technology. Great in-depth review though!
I am tempted to buy the Garmin sensors that go with the S42 (at another £200ish) to see if there’s any noticeable difference… I listened to the creator of the Decade app yesterday also say it takes around 10-15 mins to update their app with similar information after the round….I guess it depends if people are ready for this new additional process. Do the long term benefits outweighs the additional drain on your time? Probably, but not for everyone
I think you’ve been over critical. I’ve used Arccos and while Arccos are better for SG data, it’s a pain having a phone in your pocket and misses shots. I now have V3 and find it more reliable and easier to use.
Thanks for watching Phil. I agree that having to have the phone in your pocket is a pain (although I don't think you need to do that with a new version?) I feel I've given a fair account of my experience, and I stand by my summary, the shotscope will help you collect some great data and will help you improve if you use it in the right way....but you have to be prepared to take the time after every round to make sure your shots have been tracked properly, as bad data won't help anyone, and I've yet to play a round where I haven't had to correct the data in the app afterwards.
@@GolfGuyReviews Arccos is also prone to missing shots, particularly putts and with it's limited gps accuracy, regularly misplaces shot positions. Having switched to the V3 @shotscope I find that far more accurate. Arccos still requires you to have either the caddie link or your phone in your pocket. Caddie link is notorious for missing strokes and won't give you yardages like Shotscope does. Where Arccos is better, is in the SG analysis, but how much SG info does the average amateur want? They just want to know where they need to improve.
The strap is actually the antenna for the GPS. The desktop app needs work though as the editing isn’t intuitive. I haven’t found any need to do more than one practice swing. With the V3, you can at least easily see that your club has been recognised by the watch before taking your shot and your phone doesn’t need to have the app running in the background draining the battery. The SG analysis has improved and more importantly, there’s NO SUBSCRIPTION 👍🏻
If you don't take practice swings and you don't verify the watch recognizes each club, then you will have to do a lot of editing after the round. When editing shots, it doesn't matter where the pin really is because at that point your just counting putts. The watch is measuring the difference between where the putters tag was in relationship to the last stroke and when you hit the pin collect button. It doesn't make a hill of beans as to where the pin actually is in time and space to your stats as long as you putt out and press a pin collect button. If you don't do that then you will have to remember the number of putts and the distance when you edit. The watch also doesn't recognize gimme putts. If you leave a put close and it's a gimme just walk over and tap your putter on the flagstick, then hit the pin collect button. Or hit the putt anyway even though it's a gimme to let the watch know you've taken another stroke. Or if you're being honest you will have to edit those in the app. It's not that hard to add penalty stokes on a hole once you train yourself how to access that function on the watch. Where it gets tricky is when you have to hit 2 balls off of the tee. Like in a stroke and distance penalty or hitting a provisional. But even these can be accounted for if you get used to using the penalty function of the watch. If you don't want to do a lot of editing simply check your watch before you swing. If you verify the watch senses the club on each swing, you won't have to edit missed shots. If the current club icon isn't showing up simply tap the club's sensor to the watch band and it will recognize what club, you are using. The sensor is in the watch's band and the watch must be worn on the wrist that's closest to the tags on the clubs, i.e., left wrist for a right-handed player. This is easy to get into the habit of doing. Even if you take practice swings you should still verify that it has registered the club being used. It's not that hard to look at the watch to see if the club's icon is showing. This watch is designed to give you yardages and track stats to help you improve the week areas of your game. It will not however improve brain function. Meaning that it still takes some manual input to function accurately. If you want real time scoring, then use a traditional scorecard or the on-course app on your phone. I use a phone app as well as the watch while I'm playing. The phone app gives me a visual of the holes layout and lets me keep score and the watch tracks my shots for distance of various clubs, number of shots, putts and length of round. It does take some getting used to, but I love my Shot Scope watch. I also think it's a good value for what it does.
I have allready baught the v3 watch which i find a good piece of golf equipment and i can say im very pleased wioth my puchase, i enjoyed your review very much.
If you are playing in GPS+Track mode on V3 and you would like to Pick up your ball and clear all of the shots on that hole, the pick up option will be available by pressing the top left button, navigating to Penalties and then use the bottom right button to scroll to the Pick up option. Press the top right button to confirm your Pick up.
@@GolfGuyReviews No problem, coincidentally I read the manual yesterday and then saw your video. This might help with issue of stableford play when picking up your ball.
Brilliant review that reflects exactly my experiences of using this watch for the last year - it needs a lot of time after the round to get the accurate data you need to exploit the capability. ALSO, in the 1.5 years I’ve had 3 replacement watches due to serious hardware failure issues (I think the replacements are reconditioned which then break)..gps didn’t pick-up, button failed after 2 rounds, strap to sensor failed and now my battery doesn’t charge after only having this watch for 8 months…every time so far the support has resolved the situation BUT you need your watch to play and it takes a couple of weeks to sort…I’m thinking of moving to Garmin!!!
Thanks for that - I appreciate garmin’s are more expensive but a cheaper product that fails so quickly isn’t good value. Do you have any reviews on the Garmin equivalents?
Really great honest review. I've been using golf pad for 4 years and already do the correction's you have talked about after the round but really love the stats i get. I think this could be a really good upgrade.
I think this seems like the perfect watch for a beginner golfer like myself. I'm sick of using my phone already and I've only played a handful of rounds. Obviously a phone gives me a course map, but actually I don't know how much I use that - normally just to measure to bunkers etc. This watch does that. Thanks for the review! Hopefully updates continue to come to the watch. It seems a bit to me like they've tried to be too clever, and limit the interaction required too much. I totally agree with them that watches that require you to select the club manually are a PITA, but this is too far the other way IMO, having to take practice swings to detect the club. The way they should have done it is 1) you select a club 2) you press a button on the watch while holding the club 3) you hit it That way, you don't need to do a certain swing ritual to get it to detect the club; you don't need to hope that it's picked a shot up (you've told it to capture one); and yet you still don't have to enter the club manually Maybe I should email them!! Thanks again
Thanks for watching Sam. Always good to have as much data as possible to help you identify the best areas of your game to work on. Good suggestion for the club identification system, give this man a job :) Don't forget to subscribe if you haven't already!
You are right. Most phone apps are a real pain to use. They all try and do too much and unless you get a sub you get adds up the wazo. I might see if I can find a more basic app to compliment the V3 which I do plan to get. Hopefully they will continue to improve it as well.
The practice swing is only one way to ensure the watch detects the club. The way many users do this is to touch the tag on the club to the part of the watch strap nearest the ground - thats where the RFID airial is. When you tag the club to the watch strap you can see the club in use has been registered becuase the tag name is shown bottom right on the watch screen. You should do this when you reach your ball. Some people do this when they get out of the buggy, then walk 30 yards to the ball. That can give you a shot at the buggy and another when you get to your ball. So really the watch already can do exactly what you are asking for.
Like your honest review. The putting function is ruining this watch for me and I also play stapleford like yourself so never get a true round score. Yes it’s good value, but not sure I’ll stick with it, unless you have a brilliant memory or write everything down, it’s very frustrating
Excellent review. I’ve found similar issues as you, mainly over failure to track shots and also with having to edit on the app. A few other examples. If I take a practice swing outside a bunker it records the shot outside and I have to move shot location to inside the bunker. If it fails to track a second shot on a hole, it gives an incredibly long drive and you have to add the shot from where you think you hit it. On putting, I now use manual setting to track each putt and then hole location. When using auto, it tracks if you take a practice stroke away from your ball. Strokes gained is useful, but it would be better if it remembered which setting you use rather than starting at Tour Pro every time. Having said all that, I enjoy using Shotscope and the analysis of my game. The good points far outweigh the issues, as most of them can be resolved on the app. However, if you don’t edit your round on the app your stats will not be accurate. Rant over.
Thanks Tony, really appreciate the detailed comment. I think you hit the nail on the head, ultimately you still enjoy using the Shotscope and having the data available....you just have to be comfortable with the quirks the watch and app come with. The new Shot Scope X5 just arrived, which has new bigger tags and an improved sensor in the strap, so I'm looking forward to testing it against the V3
I have used shot scope for nearly a year..yes it can be a pain when editing when it’s only a gps and tracking device. It’s not a phone..why xpect txts and emails. I generally love it..if you want perfection buy a track man for 20 k. Would recommend it to any one. Only gripe they not sold in New Zealand.had to buy mine from Australia
Thanks for watching and sharing Ivan. For the money there’s nothing that comes close, but I wanted to highlight it’s limitations for the money. If you keep your phone in your bag while playing, notifications of calls or text is very handy.
I’ve been using it for two seasons since it came out. Generally works well. Sometime I forget to tag the flag but otherwise it’s been very good and the software upgrades with Strokes Gained is great. Pretty unobtrusive. Occasionally you need to adjust shots especially if your playing a course where GPS signal is limited. also when you need a provisional it does seem to get confused.
A good honest review, was going to get one as I’m a bit disappointed with my Garmin S62 and tags. Mainly the stats and how they are displayed. But it never misses a shot and is easy to use out on the course. Might stick with it now.
Thanks Steve. I’m currently using the S62 for a review (not with the CT10 tags) but yes I think the Shotscope provides more data in a better way…but as I’ve highlighted, there’s things you need to be aware of/comfortable with first
Thanks for watching, glad I could help. It’s a great watch for some, but it’s not for everyone. I’ve spoken to friend who love it, but also a few who couldn’t stand it
Thanks for the review. I like the idea of shot tracking but there is no way I'm going to start taking two practice swings just to feed the system, I'll pass.
Thanks for watching. You might want to check out my review of their latest product, as it works a little different (and there's a giveaway) - ruclips.net/video/BYAY-mGEZsE/видео.html
Tbh, if I were playing, stableford I really wouldn’t be that bothered with the scoring on the watch. Thankyou for this review as it shows the watch up to be a bit of a faff Does sound like the gps tags are a bit pointless. As would be better telling the watch what club you are playing.
Thank for watching Paul. I know what your mean about scoring, but I know there are plenty of golfers who hate working out their stableford points, so would love to have that feature like other watches do. I think Faff is a great way to describe it 👍
One confusing thing I found was that they tell you there is NO desktop app for the V3, and so you think you have to do your editing on your phone which is really awkward. But you just go to the dashboard on the website and you can edit in full size as you did for the V2.
Curious about missed shots, it never happened to me since 2 yrs of use Right club is always detected even is only waggling or even nothing befoire shooting To me it's just how close the captor is to the watch that make it work properly and for me it's 100% of the time
Excellent review, I brought the watch 6 months ago and now only use for GPS, as you rightly say it misses shots and editing afterwards is far too fiddly and time consuming for me. As a GPS watch it is ok, but is hopelessly wrong on one hole on my home course giving 135 yds in, standing at 150 yd’s, contacted shot scope support which were very quick to respond but have done nothing about it.Should have brought a Garmin.
Thanks for watching Rob and your support, really appreciate it, especially when I’m raising points others have either missed or chose not to mention 🙏 can’t say that I’ve ever really had an issue with yardages, but I can see how it can happen if their data isn’t up to date.
A lot of good information not covered in other reviews. Not being able to see your score during the round is a bit of a bummer. I mean I do not want to go back to having to use a scorecard to track my game which I do now with an app. Does the Shot Scope app keep track of that information so you could view it occasionally during a round? Plus the penalty feature, or lack of, is a little off putting. Seems like the watch might be geared toward better players? Got me re-thinking the purchase now. Good review.
Thanks for watching Alan. You can’t view your score at any time during the round, and will likely be wrong when you upload the data to the app so will need to be reviewed. You can mark penalty shots on the watch during the round, but because you can’t check if it worked, and you have to remember to do it, I just didn’t bother in the end and added them after, given I was probably going to have make edits anyway. From my experience it’s priced right, because the significant discount compared to the Garmin is the trade off for the more frustrating elements of watch and app.
@@GolfGuyReviews Thanks for the clarification. I will probably still get one since it looks real easy to use and I want to collect the data, but not showing your running score seems like a real oversight. I'll probably just go back to using a score card. So many of the apps out there are full of adds unless you get a subscription and just try to do too much versus a simple app for just keeping score.
For stableford rounds there's an option called "pick up" to register a hole you did not finish. Regular users tag the club to the strap where the aerial is found to minimise or even eliminate missed shots. You can see that a club position has been registered when the name of the tag appears just to the right of the hole/par numbers. Shots that travel less than 55 yards are automatically excluded from statistics. To eliminate practice swings being recorded as shots the watch does not detect multiple swings from the same place - this means that taking several shots to get out of a bunker will be recorded as one shot. My impression of your video is that you've tried the watch for a couple of days, have not read the user documentation or the extensive help pages on the ShotScope support pages and so you have missed a lot of information, and got quite a few things wrong. Have you done a follow-up to this video after you had resolved all the issues you misleadingly raised?
Thanks for watching and taking the time to share Ian. I used the watch quite a bit before sharing my thoughts, it’s something I fee sets me apart from other channels. At the time of recording I hadn’t realised there was a pick up button, but from what I remember it is a little hidden in the menu, and the watch doesn’t track stableford…not that I’d be that bothered as I always have to edit the scores in the app afterwards anyway. I think I do reference in the video that the stats ignore extreme shots so help with the stats. And in regards to the tracks, at the shot Shotscope say to take a few practice swing to get it to register, so I hadn’t realised the tags work on proximity to the watch. Overall i feel I have the watch a fair review, confirming frustrations that I found that no one seemed to mention, and highlighting the positives too for this who want a good value watch that can provide in depth shout data
Thanks for watching. Glad I could help! Maybe keep an eye out for the club tags on the Garmin going on sale. Not sure if you’ve seen, but I’ve done a full review of the Garmin s42 and a side by side comparison of the two watches as well
I think you point about the stapleford points is wrong because later you mentioned you still need to keep a card, and you need to play out to get your stats anyhow, when I play stapleford with my mates it’s a game within a game because I want to get accurate data for my game,
Thanks for watching! I take your point on board, but I don't think I'm wrong. I have other golf watches that will calculate the stableford score for me, and at my club, that's the main type of game plated in the weekly/monthly competitions.
I've got Arccos and it misses between 10 and 20 shots a round and is terrible to edit so this sounds a bit less frustrating and includes a watch and no annual subscription as well. All golf tags are definitely a work in progress and far from perfect but a watch is at least nearer the club than a phone in your pocket.
I used it for the first time yesterday. Everything seemed fine during the round. Finished my round and went to download it to the phone. There were no rounds on the device.
I was thinking of getting one of these , not now. I don't want to go through the hassle of adjusting everything after the round. And like you I only play stableford.(About 2 stroke plays a year).
Thanks for watching Robert. Some people are fine with the editing, others (like me) can’t be bothered 🤣 they do offer a 30 day money back guarantee so that could be an option?
I think checking score during the round is such a basic feature and it's no doubt a highly sought after one too! Other than that - it's 'ok'. Garmin seems better
Thanks for watching Alex. My view is if you want the stats, are happy with the faff after the round, and are on a budget, this is a good option to consider…but as a pure GPS watch, I’d recommend a Garmin instead
Ive watched all your golf gps videos now. I’m big on tracking stats, so I love to see my hdcp, putts, gir, and even tee distances. Which gps watch would you recommend for these main features if money wasn’t an object?
If money isn’t an object, I’d say the Garmin S62 with the CT10 tags (to be clear I’ve not tried the tags myself yet) - it will track all of the above for you. I believe the Shotscope V3 will provide some additional stat comparison info, but the Garmin S62 is a far better gps watch….it is expensive, but you said money no object 😎 That said, if you’re not bothered about the extra features you get with the Garmin, and are happy with the look of this, the Shotscope V3 will give the stats you want and more for half the price.
I’m a massive SS fan. When missing shots did you check that the club you’re using shows on the watch? When losing a ball are you marking this on the watch while on course? It’s an option. It’s not advertising as doing stableford (not staple) yet.
Thanks for watching. I'm a fan of the data and the concept, I just feel it's not as straight forward as people may like/think it is. After I got used to it, I would remember to check the club I was using had been picked up by the watch. But I would find it would miss some when taking multiple shots with the same club. When testing I saw there was an option to mark a lost ball, but because you can't check your score mid-round, I don't think there's a way to know it has has worked correctly, until you check every shot you hit after the round. Looking forward to testing the new H4 and rangefinder combination to see if there's been any significant changes to the firmware.
@@GolfGuyReviews thanks for the response. It’s a known issue for missing shots if using the same club in close proximity or within a short time period. I’ve just ordered the ShotScope rangefinder with H4. 👍🏻
Hi Gazz. Yes you can just use it in GPS mode without bothering with the tags. But if you're going to do that, perhaps check out the Garmin S12 instead which has significantly better battery life.
I only spent £129.99 on it as a deal and I feel let down. The amount of editing after each round, always misses between 5 being the best case and 13 shots being the worst case. And then it moves on to different holes when I am still putting and my last round I left 2 putts short but according to the app I left 69% of them short that round. But there isn’t anything else that price range so I deal with I guess. Hope that can make improvements
Thanks for watching and sharing Jamie, always nice to know I’m not the only having these issues, especially when I commit to highlighting them in a review 🤣 yeah I feel the amount of editing to get accurate data will be too much for many golfers, although as you say, I don’t really see many alternatives the moment. Don’t forget to subscribe!
Great review, given me a lot to think about as I’m keen to start tracking distances and get stokes gained. Tempted to get this or maybe the new H4, have you done a review on this one? What happens if you hole out a chip? It doesn’t happen that often but is it a simple process to pin collect with zero putts. Thanks
Thanks for watching Oliver! Im currently testing the H4, I have 3 9 hole rounds under my belt so far but want to use it a bit more before filming my review. The functionality between the watch and H4 is identical, so at the moment my preference would be to go for the watch - it feels much more intuitive than having the H4 clipped on my belt or bag (my affiliate links are in the description 😎) If you hole out then you don’t record anything, and the unit will just move on to the next hole assuming you chipped in. If you want to move the flag to the exact location for accuracy you’ll have to do it when you edit the round after.
I under some of your issues. But they are fewer and farther between than you make them sound. It does need about 15 minutes to review and edit. I don’t play Stableford but I believe they have added the pickup option in the menu. The biggest thing is you have forgot to express there is NO SUBSCRIPTION COST required. It is the BEST for the cost outlay.
Thanks for watching and sharing. You make a very good point about subscription, one I hadn’t considered at the time of filming. I think the experience of missing shots can vary, as I know plenty of people who have no issue, as well as others who returned or sold the watch as they were fed up with it missing so many shots. At the time of filming I hadn’t realised the tags activate when in close proximity to the watch, I think shot scope could have been clearer with that. At the time that just said to take a few practice swings, so I assumed the rages activated with movement. Now I just make sure I hold the tags close to the watch and it always picks it up for me…so long as I remember to do that
I have both the watch a rangefinder. I did up to the V3 from the V2 for the preloaded courses. (And aesthetics) I’d like to have the combi unit but there’s little reason to change as it is not an “upgrade” necessarily. It is an excellent product!
The watch band ist enerving, it often unlocks and irritates. but thats not the worst. I was on holliday in France and from 5 places played, there were 3 with inaccurate data, even if i updated them the day before (wrong pars and fairway layout) And back in Germany there are often winter greens or even winter tees in effect. Thats something the watch cant handle. It places then a drive from the normal teebox to the place you were hitting your first shot.... Nice for the statistics if a par 4 was changed into a par 3. On the plus side the GPS is way more accurate than that of my (older) Garmin watch -but if the course data is inaccurate then this doesnt help either...
Thanks for watching Anthony. I’m not sure how much the Pro version of golf shot app is, but I’d probably prefer the shotscope for all the additional game improvement features you’re getting on the app, as well as the fact the golf shot pro app used to drain my iWatch battery really fast when I used to use it a few years ago
Thanks for watching David. You can, or there’s a version called the G3 that just comes with the watch for £150 - shotscope.rfrl.co/76m94 (I may earn a small commission from qualifying purchases)
@@GolfGuyReviews Played a course I don't know & found it invaluable. Shame it doesn't help me hit the bloomin' shot any better!! So, thanks for the review as I wouldn't have bought it without your video and advice.
Hi Kevin sorry for confusion maybe i have got my facts wrong as GPS watches rely on satellites for yardages the skycaddie models are mapped by their employees walking the course and would elude more accurate figures and not reliant on GPS which i have found not to be always accurate
Seriously contemplating buying the s42 as aesthetically more pleasing to my eye than s62 albeit take the yardages with a pinch of salt but will always compare with my laser until i become comfortable with its accuracy. I currently have a g30 on your recommendation but feel a watch is more convenient for many reasons. Probably will make a purchase and sell my g30 which is in mint condition on ebay. Happy new year Kevin...... well almost. Look forward to your reviews in 2022 stay safe.
Can you believe I’ve been playing golf for over 10 years, and no one ever corrected me. And it’s like I didn’t know if was stableford, I’ve seen it written down hundreds of times, it’s just I’ve always said wrong 🤦♂️ You still knew what I meant though 😎 Thanks for watching
Absolute shite bought this a couple of months ago and I hate it . The watch band even irritates me. It’s the wrong way round and the clasp clip keeps popping out. The long and short is it’s a lot of fanny and doesn’t do what it says on the tin. Oh and it doesn’t stay connected to the satellite
Thanks for watching Quinton. I didn’t really mention the strap but your right, rightly it has started to come undone quite a lot while I’m using it which is really annoying.
Thanks for watching. I feel like an idiot as I know its stableford but my brain always wants to say stapleford 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️ when I was editing I decided to just leave it 🤣
Thanks for watching Vordemberge Photograph and for taking the time to comment. From my research at the time, every review on this watch was positively glowing, and hardly reference any of the negative aspects that I highlight, and if they did, were dealt with in a trivial way. I'm happy with the way I've presented this review and I stand by it - this watch is a great idea and has a lot of potential for improving your game, so long as you're will to accommodate it's weaknesses, which are significant in my view.
your discount code takes this watch down to £144.49 today, 10/08/22, which is a great price for a gps with tracking. I have been trying to decide which gps to get since my S1 packed in, this one is £160 everywhere online, so your code makes this a bargain, thanks
@@GolfGuyReviews oh, also the G3 is down to £110 with your code, which is the same as the Garmin S12, but has a lot better screen in my opinion of course 👍
Thanks Andy, appreciate you watching and commenting 👍 rookie mistake from me, it’s because we have a local course called Stapleford Abotts, and for some reason I always mix the two up 🤦♂️🤦♂️
Got to say that ShotScope is a complete POS! I have the V3, and it stopped working after only owning it for 6 months. Now it's been nearly three months later they've sent me 3 watches, and it still doesn't work! Their support does not care and do not help in any way shape or form! Save your money and find some that works and has support that cares!
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Great review…appreciate you calling out the cons. Having used the Arccos system extensively for a year, I can say their platform is similarly challenged with capturing all of the shots accurately. This being said, the value a user can get out of strokes gained is immense if they are able to put the time into tweaking rounds, analyzing the data, and working on the areas of improvement that these apps can identify.
Thanks so much John. Great summary 👍
Great review. Almost all other RUclipsrs using affiliate links don't call out the negatives as honestly as you. Looking forward to the Garmin review
Thanks for the support Fran! I’m thinking about framing this comment!!! 🙏
I enjoyed the review…however, I use the watch for the stats tracking and have found no issues. I upgraded for the old version as I lost the watch on a recent trip. Upgrading was easy and over the 50 or so rounds I’ve done now I have found no issues with it not picking up clubs. I don’t use it for keeping track of my score, I use a paper scorecard lol. The editing afterwards is not too difficult apart from as you say, you need to get a penalty shot in there.
Overall the benefits of tracking my stats outweighs these issues.
Thanks for watching Graham and the feedback 👍
I think many will agree with you that the benefits outweigh the cons, but I think it’s important to share everything I experienced, both good and bad 👍
Your first negative about Pin Collect saying it it’s very accurate about 2 feet. To me that’s much more accurate than guessing where the pin was after the round. Secondly having to practice swing the club to pick up the club you’re hitting, I just hit the shot and it detects what club I just hit. Lastly not having Stapleford format isn’t a problem for most people. I for one have never used it. I love being able to see the shots I hit overlaid on the satellite image of the golf course.
Thanks for watching and sharing nbargolf.
When it comes to the pin collect, I feel a margin for error of 2ft is significant, especially if it means I'm relying on stats telling me if the putts are long or short.
I can only speak for my own experience, and I know there will be several shots a round which don't get picked up, and I have to consciously remember to do a purposeful practice swing.
When it comes to Stapleford, it's a far more common game in the UK than the US, so for me and many others its a frustration.
@@GolfGuyReviews An error of 2 ft on a GPS location is too optimistic. Even military GPS cannot be that accurate. Civilian GPS error can be 10 ft. Which rather means that putting statistics in terms of distances for any GPS device cannot be totally reliable, no matter how much you pay for it.
I have one of these and it never misses a shot ... because it doesn't know if you've made a shot or not. The wrist band reads the club tag NOT if you make a shot, this is why Shot Scope tell you to make a few practice swings so the band can read the tag. Then you walk to your ball after you've hit it and the GPS reads where you are (therefore it reads distance hit) when you select your next club so NEVER EVER take out your club before you intend to use it as it messes up the shot record. If you were take out your driver, get the V3 to recognise it (display D on the screen) by taking a few practice swings, walk 300yds, pull out your 7 iron, take a few practice swings, walk 200yds to the green, pull out your putter, take a few practice swings and the press pin, you've just recorded an eagle on a par 5 without touching a ball or making a hit. You don't have to even wear it. As long as you hold the tag to the band so it recognises the club and after you hit the ball you walk to it, get the band to recognise the next club the GPS has registered the distance shot, calculates distance left etc and away you go.
Thanks for watching and sharing, very helpful. At the time of recording, I didn’t realise the tags are activated when in close proximity to the watch; as shotscope say to take a few practice swings I had wrongly assumed they were activated by the motion. I’ve since ensured I hold the tag close to the watch and it picks it up not a problem…so long as I remember to do that. And as you say, don’t change your mind once once you’ve registered your club 👍
@@GolfGuyReviews You can change your mind after a club has been registered because the watch registers only the last club used at a particular location. This gives rise to another issue, for example taking several shots to get out of a bunker. The watch registers a tag name and location. If the location is the same, only one shot is registered. This means you can have several practice swings without registering a shot but several bunker shots within less than about 10 yds of each other will be only one shot on the watch.
Getting the watch and the sensors for your clubs is definitely a great value for the price, however between the required practice swings and the editing in the app afterwards, that’s a big time investment. Certainly with these types of products you’d hope that the tracking is easy and intuitive. Maybe other more costly units do it better? Or perhaps we’re not quite there with the technology. Great in-depth review though!
I am tempted to buy the Garmin sensors that go with the S42 (at another £200ish) to see if there’s any noticeable difference…
I listened to the creator of the Decade app yesterday also say it takes around 10-15 mins to update their app with similar information after the round….I guess it depends if people are ready for this new additional process. Do the long term benefits outweighs the additional drain on your time? Probably, but not for everyone
I think you’ve been over critical. I’ve used Arccos and while Arccos are better for SG data, it’s a pain having a phone in your pocket and misses shots. I now have V3 and find it more reliable and easier to use.
Thanks for watching Phil. I agree that having to have the phone in your pocket is a pain (although I don't think you need to do that with a new version?)
I feel I've given a fair account of my experience, and I stand by my summary, the shotscope will help you collect some great data and will help you improve if you use it in the right way....but you have to be prepared to take the time after every round to make sure your shots have been tracked properly, as bad data won't help anyone, and I've yet to play a round where I haven't had to correct the data in the app afterwards.
@@GolfGuyReviews Arccos is also prone to missing shots, particularly putts and with it's limited gps accuracy, regularly misplaces shot positions. Having switched to the V3 @shotscope I find that far more accurate. Arccos still requires you to have either the caddie link or your phone in your pocket. Caddie link is notorious for missing strokes and won't give you yardages like Shotscope does. Where Arccos is better, is in the SG analysis, but how much SG info does the average amateur want? They just want to know where they need to improve.
The strap is actually the antenna for the GPS. The desktop app needs work though as the editing isn’t intuitive. I haven’t found any need to do more than one practice swing. With the V3, you can at least easily see that your club has been recognised by the watch before taking your shot and your phone doesn’t need to have the app running in the background draining the battery. The SG analysis has improved and more importantly, there’s NO SUBSCRIPTION 👍🏻
If you don't take practice swings and you don't verify the watch recognizes each club, then you will have to do a lot of editing after the round. When editing shots, it doesn't matter where the pin really is because at that point your just counting putts. The watch is measuring the difference between where the putters tag was in relationship to the last stroke and when you hit the pin collect button. It doesn't make a hill of beans as to where the pin actually is in time and space to your stats as long as you putt out and press a pin collect button. If you don't do that then you will have to remember the number of putts and the distance when you edit. The watch also doesn't recognize gimme putts. If you leave a put close and it's a gimme just walk over and tap your putter on the flagstick, then hit the pin collect button. Or hit the putt anyway even though it's a gimme to let the watch know you've taken another stroke. Or if you're being honest you will have to edit those in the app. It's not that hard to add penalty stokes on a hole once you train yourself how to access that function on the watch. Where it gets tricky is when you have to hit 2 balls off of the tee. Like in a stroke and distance penalty or hitting a provisional. But even these can be accounted for if you get used to using the penalty function of the watch.
If you don't want to do a lot of editing simply check your watch before you swing. If you verify the watch senses the club on each swing, you won't have to edit missed shots. If the current club icon isn't showing up simply tap the club's sensor to the watch band and it will recognize what club, you are using. The sensor is in the watch's band and the watch must be worn on the wrist that's closest to the tags on the clubs, i.e., left wrist for a right-handed player. This is easy to get into the habit of doing. Even if you take practice swings you should still verify that it has registered the club being used. It's not that hard to look at the watch to see if the club's icon is showing. This watch is designed to give you yardages and track stats to help you improve the week areas of your game. It will not however improve brain function. Meaning that it still takes some manual input to function accurately. If you want real time scoring, then use a traditional scorecard or the on-course app on your phone. I use a phone app as well as the watch while I'm playing. The phone app gives me a visual of the holes layout and lets me keep score and the watch tracks my shots for distance of various clubs, number of shots, putts and length of round. It does take some getting used to, but I love my Shot Scope watch. I also think it's a good value for what it does.
Nice summary, thanks 👍
I have allready baught the v3 watch which i find a good piece of golf equipment and i can say im very pleased wioth my puchase, i enjoyed your review very much.
If you are playing in GPS+Track mode on V3 and you would like to Pick up your ball and clear all of the shots on that hole, the pick up option will be available by pressing the top left button, navigating to Penalties and then use the bottom right button to scroll to the Pick up option. Press the top right button to confirm your Pick up.
Thanks Shane, I didn't realise that was an option, will check it out this weekend. Thanks for watching my video
@@GolfGuyReviews No problem, coincidentally I read the manual yesterday and then saw your video. This might help with issue of stableford play when picking up your ball.
Brilliant review that reflects exactly my experiences of using this watch for the last year - it needs a lot of time after the round to get the accurate data you need to exploit the capability. ALSO, in the 1.5 years I’ve had 3 replacement watches due to serious hardware failure issues (I think the replacements are reconditioned which then break)..gps didn’t pick-up, button failed after 2 rounds, strap to sensor failed and now my battery doesn’t charge after only having this watch for 8 months…every time so far the support has resolved the situation BUT you need your watch to play and it takes a couple of weeks to sort…I’m thinking of moving to Garmin!!!
Thanks for sharing Chris. Looking at the comment across all my shot scope product reviews, reliability/build quality is a recurring issue golfers have
Thanks for that - I appreciate garmin’s are more expensive but a cheaper product that fails so quickly isn’t good value. Do you have any reviews on the Garmin equivalents?
Pretty much all of them on my channel 👍
I'VE GOT INTO THE HABIT OF CHECKING MY WATCH HAS PICKED UP THE CLUB BEFORE I TAKE MY SHOT SO I RARELY HAVE TO EDIT MUCH AT THE END.....
Thanks for watching Danny. Good habit to get into 👍
Really great honest review. I've been using golf pad for 4 years and already do the correction's you have talked about after the round but really love the stats i get. I think this could be a really good upgrade.
Thanks William. Yeah if you’re prepared to take the time needed after the round, then you’ll get really good information back 👍
I think this seems like the perfect watch for a beginner golfer like myself. I'm sick of using my phone already and I've only played a handful of rounds. Obviously a phone gives me a course map, but actually I don't know how much I use that - normally just to measure to bunkers etc. This watch does that.
Thanks for the review! Hopefully updates continue to come to the watch. It seems a bit to me like they've tried to be too clever, and limit the interaction required too much. I totally agree with them that watches that require you to select the club manually are a PITA, but this is too far the other way IMO, having to take practice swings to detect the club. The way they should have done it is
1) you select a club
2) you press a button on the watch while holding the club
3) you hit it
That way, you don't need to do a certain swing ritual to get it to detect the club; you don't need to hope that it's picked a shot up (you've told it to capture one); and yet you still don't have to enter the club manually
Maybe I should email them!!
Thanks again
Thanks for watching Sam. Always good to have as much data as possible to help you identify the best areas of your game to work on.
Good suggestion for the club identification system, give this man a job :) Don't forget to subscribe if you haven't already!
You are right. Most phone apps are a real pain to use. They all try and do too much and unless you get a sub you get adds up the wazo. I might see if I can find a more basic app to compliment the V3 which I do plan to get. Hopefully they will continue to improve it as well.
The practice swing is only one way to ensure the watch detects the club. The way many users do this is to touch the tag on the club to the part of the watch strap nearest the ground - thats where the RFID airial is. When you tag the club to the watch strap you can see the club in use has been registered becuase the tag name is shown bottom right on the watch screen. You should do this when you reach your ball. Some people do this when they get out of the buggy, then walk 30 yards to the ball. That can give you a shot at the buggy and another when you get to your ball.
So really the watch already can do exactly what you are asking for.
Like your honest review. The putting function is ruining this watch for me and I also play stapleford like yourself so never get a true round score. Yes it’s good value, but not sure I’ll stick with it, unless you have a brilliant memory or write everything down, it’s very frustrating
Thanks for watching Gray. Sounds like we’re having a similar experience with the watch
Great review buddy,,really informative and put across superb,I never got bored or thought about switching off 10/10 👏
I do agree on the cons. I've been using this watch for 9 months and experience the same limitations.
Thanks for watching and sharing Bruno 👍
Excellent review. I’ve found similar issues as you, mainly over failure to track shots and also with having to edit on the app. A few other examples. If I take a practice swing outside a bunker it records the shot outside and I have to move shot location to inside the bunker. If it fails to track a second shot on a hole, it gives an incredibly long drive and you have to add the shot from where you think you hit it. On putting, I now use manual setting to track each putt and then hole location. When using auto, it tracks if you take a practice stroke away from your ball. Strokes gained is useful, but it would be better if it remembered which setting you use rather than starting at Tour Pro every time. Having said all that, I enjoy using Shotscope and the analysis of my game. The good points far outweigh the issues, as most of them can be resolved on the app. However, if you don’t edit your round on the app your stats will not be accurate. Rant over.
Thanks Tony, really appreciate the detailed comment. I think you hit the nail on the head, ultimately you still enjoy using the Shotscope and having the data available....you just have to be comfortable with the quirks the watch and app come with.
The new Shot Scope X5 just arrived, which has new bigger tags and an improved sensor in the strap, so I'm looking forward to testing it against the V3
I’ve ordered X5 as well. Look forward to watching your review.
I have used shot scope for nearly a year..yes it can be a pain when editing when it’s only a gps and tracking device.
It’s not a phone..why xpect txts and emails.
I generally love it..if you want perfection buy a track man for 20 k.
Would recommend it to any one.
Only gripe they not sold in New Zealand.had to buy mine from Australia
Thanks for watching and sharing Ivan. For the money there’s nothing that comes close, but I wanted to highlight it’s limitations for the money. If you keep your phone in your bag while playing, notifications of calls or text is very handy.
I’ve been using it for two seasons since it came out. Generally works well. Sometime I forget to tag the flag but otherwise it’s been very good and the software upgrades with Strokes Gained is great. Pretty unobtrusive. Occasionally you need to adjust shots especially if your playing a course where GPS signal is limited. also when you need a provisional it does seem to get confused.
Thanks for watching. I agree regarding the provisional process being a little tricky. And the software/game analysis is second to none
A good honest review, was going to get one as I’m a bit disappointed with my Garmin S62 and tags. Mainly the stats and how they are displayed. But it never misses a shot and is easy to use out on the course. Might stick with it now.
Thanks Steve. I’m currently using the S62 for a review (not with the CT10 tags) but yes I think the Shotscope provides more data in a better way…but as I’ve highlighted, there’s things you need to be aware of/comfortable with first
Cheers pal, i was about to buy this till your vid. All the negatives you've mentioned probably has something to do with why I see so many for sale.
Thanks for watching, glad I could help. It’s a great watch for some, but it’s not for everyone. I’ve spoken to friend who love it, but also a few who couldn’t stand it
Thanks for the review. I like the idea of shot tracking but there is no way I'm going to start taking two practice swings just to feed the system, I'll pass.
Thanks for watching. You might want to check out my review of their latest product, as it works a little different (and there's a giveaway) - ruclips.net/video/BYAY-mGEZsE/видео.html
Tbh, if I were playing, stableford I really wouldn’t be that bothered with the scoring on the watch.
Thankyou for this review as it shows the watch up to be a bit of a faff
Does sound like the gps tags are a bit pointless. As would be better telling the watch what club you are playing.
Thank for watching Paul. I know what your mean about scoring, but I know there are plenty of golfers who hate working out their stableford points, so would love to have that feature like other watches do.
I think Faff is a great way to describe it 👍
Good review. Very comprehensive.
Thanks for watching and your support Damon 🙏
One confusing thing I found was that they tell you there is NO desktop app for the V3, and so you think you have to do your editing on your phone which is really awkward. But you just go to the dashboard on the website and you can edit in full size as you did for the V2.
Thanks for watching Kerry, I haven't really played around with the desktop app, will take a look 👍
Great review, this will help me decide on my next purchase, thanks
Great to hear, thanks so much 👍
Curious about missed shots, it never happened to me since 2 yrs of use
Right club is always detected even is only waggling or even nothing befoire shooting
To me it's just how close the captor is to the watch that make it work properly and for me it's 100% of the time
Thanks for watching. Can safely say it’s always missed at least one shot every round, usually a couple for me 👍
Excellent review, I brought the watch 6 months ago and now only use for GPS, as you rightly say it misses shots and editing afterwards is far too fiddly and time consuming for me. As a GPS watch it is ok, but is hopelessly wrong on one hole on my home course giving 135 yds in, standing at 150 yd’s, contacted shot scope support which were very quick to respond but have done nothing about it.Should have brought a Garmin.
Thanks for watching Rob and your support, really appreciate it, especially when I’m raising points others have either missed or chose not to mention 🙏 can’t say that I’ve ever really had an issue with yardages, but I can see how it can happen if their data isn’t up to date.
A lot of good information not covered in other reviews. Not being able to see your score during the round is a bit of a bummer. I mean I do not want to go back to having to use a scorecard to track my game which I do now with an app. Does the Shot Scope app keep track of that information so you could view it occasionally during a round? Plus the penalty feature, or lack of, is a little off putting. Seems like the watch might be geared toward better players? Got me re-thinking the purchase now. Good review.
Thanks for watching Alan. You can’t view your score at any time during the round, and will likely be wrong when you upload the data to the app so will need to be reviewed.
You can mark penalty shots on the watch during the round, but because you can’t check if it worked, and you have to remember to do it, I just didn’t bother in the end and added them after, given I was probably going to have make edits anyway.
From my experience it’s priced right, because the significant discount compared to the Garmin is the trade off for the more frustrating elements of watch and app.
@@GolfGuyReviews Thanks for the clarification. I will probably still get one since it looks real easy to use and I want to collect the data, but not showing your running score seems like a real oversight. I'll probably just go back to using a score card. So many of the apps out there are full of adds unless you get a subscription and just try to do too much versus a simple app for just keeping score.
For stableford rounds there's an option called "pick up" to register a hole you did not finish.
Regular users tag the club to the strap where the aerial is found to minimise or even eliminate missed shots. You can see that a club position has been registered when the name of the tag appears just to the right of the hole/par numbers.
Shots that travel less than 55 yards are automatically excluded from statistics.
To eliminate practice swings being recorded as shots the watch does not detect multiple swings from the same place - this means that taking several shots to get out of a bunker will be recorded as one shot.
My impression of your video is that you've tried the watch for a couple of days, have not read the user documentation or the extensive help pages on the ShotScope support pages and so you have missed a lot of information, and got quite a few things wrong.
Have you done a follow-up to this video after you had resolved all the issues you misleadingly raised?
Thanks for watching and taking the time to share Ian. I used the watch quite a bit before sharing my thoughts, it’s something I fee sets me apart from other channels.
At the time of recording I hadn’t realised there was a pick up button, but from what I remember it is a little hidden in the menu, and the watch doesn’t track stableford…not that I’d be that bothered as I always have to edit the scores in the app afterwards anyway.
I think I do reference in the video that the stats ignore extreme shots so help with the stats.
And in regards to the tracks, at the shot Shotscope say to take a few practice swing to get it to register, so I hadn’t realised the tags work on proximity to the watch.
Overall i feel I have the watch a fair review, confirming frustrations that I found that no one seemed to mention, and highlighting the positives too for this who want a good value watch that can provide in depth shout data
thanks for this review. I know myself and know I'll never be arsed doing all the after round editing.... Garmin s42 I think is for me
Thanks for watching. Glad I could help! Maybe keep an eye out for the club tags on the Garmin going on sale.
Not sure if you’ve seen, but I’ve done a full review of the Garmin s42 and a side by side comparison of the two watches as well
I think you point about the stapleford points is wrong because later you mentioned you still need to keep a card, and you need to play out to get your stats anyhow, when I play stapleford with my mates it’s a game within a game because I want to get accurate data for my game,
Thanks for watching! I take your point on board, but I don't think I'm wrong. I have other golf watches that will calculate the stableford score for me, and at my club, that's the main type of game plated in the weekly/monthly competitions.
I've got Arccos and it misses between 10 and 20 shots a round and is terrible to edit so this sounds a bit less frustrating and includes a watch and no annual subscription as well. All golf tags are definitely a work in progress and far from perfect but a watch is at least nearer the club than a phone in your pocket.
Thanks for watching and sharing. Very helpful 👍👍
I used it for the first time yesterday. Everything seemed fine during the round. Finished my round and went to download it to the phone. There were no rounds on the device.
🤦♂️🤦♂️ I’d suggest making sure you’ve updated the watch and app to the latest versions. If that doesn’t work, return it 👍
I was thinking of getting one of these , not now. I don't want to go through the hassle of adjusting everything after the round. And like you I only play stableford.(About 2 stroke plays a year).
Thanks for watching Robert. Some people are fine with the editing, others (like me) can’t be bothered 🤣 they do offer a 30 day money back guarantee so that could be an option?
@@GolfGuyReviews I've had a rethink , and haven't totally ruled it out.
I think checking score during the round is such a basic feature and it's no doubt a highly sought after one too! Other than that - it's 'ok'. Garmin seems better
Thanks for watching Alex. My view is if you want the stats, are happy with the faff after the round, and are on a budget, this is a good option to consider…but as a pure GPS watch, I’d recommend a Garmin instead
Ive watched all your golf gps videos now. I’m big on tracking stats, so I love to see my hdcp, putts, gir, and even tee distances. Which gps watch would you recommend for these main features if money wasn’t an object?
If money isn’t an object, I’d say the Garmin S62 with the CT10 tags (to be clear I’ve not tried the tags myself yet) - it will track all of the above for you. I believe the Shotscope V3 will provide some additional stat comparison info, but the Garmin S62 is a far better gps watch….it is expensive, but you said money no object 😎
That said, if you’re not bothered about the extra features you get with the Garmin, and are happy with the look of this, the Shotscope V3 will give the stats you want and more for half the price.
@@GolfGuyReviews thanks for the feedback! I’ve also even considered just getting an Apple Watch and using my 18 birdies app with that.
Can you do a review of using the iwatch as a golf watch? Thanks in advance!
I’m a massive SS fan. When missing shots did you check that the club you’re using shows on the watch? When losing a ball are you marking this on the watch while on course? It’s an option. It’s not advertising as doing stableford (not staple) yet.
Thanks for watching. I'm a fan of the data and the concept, I just feel it's not as straight forward as people may like/think it is.
After I got used to it, I would remember to check the club I was using had been picked up by the watch. But I would find it would miss some when taking multiple shots with the same club.
When testing I saw there was an option to mark a lost ball, but because you can't check your score mid-round, I don't think there's a way to know it has has worked correctly, until you check every shot you hit after the round.
Looking forward to testing the new H4 and rangefinder combination to see if there's been any significant changes to the firmware.
@@GolfGuyReviews thanks for the response. It’s a known issue for missing shots if using the same club in close proximity or within a short time period. I’ve just ordered the ShotScope rangefinder with H4. 👍🏻
Nice review. Feature packed watch 😊
Thanks for watching, appreciate your recent views 👍👍
Can you just use it for yardage? Or do you have yo have the club tags?
Hi Gazz. Yes you can just use it in GPS mode without bothering with the tags. But if you're going to do that, perhaps check out the Garmin S12 instead which has significantly better battery life.
I only spent £129.99 on it as a deal and I feel let down. The amount of editing after each round, always misses between 5 being the best case and 13 shots being the worst case. And then it moves on to different holes when I am still putting and my last round I left 2 putts short but according to the app I left 69% of them short that round. But there isn’t anything else that price range so I deal with I guess. Hope that can make improvements
Thanks for watching and sharing Jamie, always nice to know I’m not the only having these issues, especially when I commit to highlighting them in a review 🤣 yeah I feel the amount of editing to get accurate data will be too much for many golfers, although as you say, I don’t really see many alternatives the moment.
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Nice review Kevin this watch is not for me as i use the Garmin G30 ad a laser
Thanks for watching Raj 👍🙏
Great review, given me a lot to think about as I’m keen to start tracking distances and get stokes gained. Tempted to get this or maybe the new H4, have you done a review on this one? What happens if you hole out a chip? It doesn’t happen that often but is it a simple process to pin collect with zero putts. Thanks
Thanks for watching Oliver! Im currently testing the H4, I have 3 9 hole rounds under my belt so far but want to use it a bit more before filming my review.
The functionality between the watch and H4 is identical, so at the moment my preference would be to go for the watch - it feels much more intuitive than having the H4 clipped on my belt or bag (my affiliate links are in the description 😎)
If you hole out then you don’t record anything, and the unit will just move on to the next hole assuming you chipped in. If you want to move the flag to the exact location for accuracy you’ll have to do it when you edit the round after.
@@GolfGuyReviews thanks for the info. I think I’ll pick one up and see how I get on 🤞
I under some of your issues. But they are fewer and farther between than you make them sound.
It does need about 15 minutes to review and edit.
I don’t play Stableford but I believe they have added the pickup option in the menu.
The biggest thing is you have forgot to express there is NO SUBSCRIPTION COST required. It is the BEST for the cost outlay.
Thanks for watching and sharing. You make a very good point about subscription, one I hadn’t considered at the time of filming.
I think the experience of missing shots can vary, as I know plenty of people who have no issue, as well as others who returned or sold the watch as they were fed up with it missing so many shots. At the time of filming I hadn’t realised the tags activate when in close proximity to the watch, I think shot scope could have been clearer with that. At the time that just said to take a few practice swings, so I assumed the rages activated with movement. Now I just make sure I hold the tags close to the watch and it always picks it up for me…so long as I remember to do that
I have both the watch a rangefinder. I did up to the V3 from the V2 for the preloaded courses. (And aesthetics) I’d like to have the combi unit but there’s little reason to change as it is not an “upgrade” necessarily.
It is an excellent product!
The watch band ist enerving, it often unlocks and irritates. but thats not the worst. I was on holliday in France and from 5 places played, there were 3 with inaccurate data, even if i updated them the day before (wrong pars and fairway layout) And back in Germany there are often winter greens or even winter tees in effect. Thats something the watch cant handle. It places then a drive from the normal teebox to the place you were hitting your first shot.... Nice for the statistics if a par 4 was changed into a par 3. On the plus side the GPS is way more accurate than that of my (older) Garmin watch -but if the course data is inaccurate then this doesnt help either...
Would you recommend this over golf shot pro on the apple watch? The appeal to me is the tags with the clubs
Thanks for watching Anthony. I’m not sure how much the Pro version of golf shot app is, but I’d probably prefer the shotscope for all the additional game improvement features you’re getting on the app, as well as the fact the golf shot pro app used to drain my iWatch battery really fast when I used to use it a few years ago
Also I currently have a 15% off code and link in the description if you decide to try it 👍
I don't have a smart phone. Can you use it without the app, just on the GPS/rangefinder?
Thanks for watching David.
You can, or there’s a version called the G3 that just comes with the watch for £150 - shotscope.rfrl.co/76m94
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@@GolfGuyReviews Many thanks! I've purchased one in the AG bank holiday sale and will be trying it out on Saturday morning.
@@davidmullard2831 great stuff, let me know how you get on 👍
@@GolfGuyReviews Played a course I don't know & found it invaluable. Shame it doesn't help me hit the bloomin' shot any better!! So, thanks for the review as I wouldn't have bought it without your video and advice.
@@davidmullard2831 great stuff, thanks for your support David! 🙏
Hi Kevin any recommendations on watches that dont rely on GPS as i hqve found them not be be accurate?
I’m sorry Raj but I’m not sure what you’re referring to, as they all rely on GPS?
Hi Kevin sorry for confusion maybe i have got my facts wrong as GPS watches rely on satellites for yardages the skycaddie models are mapped by their employees walking the course and would elude more accurate figures and not reliant on GPS which i have found not to be always accurate
Seriously contemplating buying the s42 as aesthetically more pleasing to my eye than s62 albeit take the yardages with a pinch of salt but will always compare with my laser until i become comfortable with its accuracy. I currently have a g30 on your recommendation but feel a watch is more convenient for many reasons. Probably will make a purchase and sell my g30 which is in mint condition on ebay. Happy new year Kevin...... well almost. Look forward to your reviews in 2022 stay safe.
Is that John Stapleford you play?
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StaBleford! 😁
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Must be a new formal of golf that stapleford??
Can you believe I’ve been playing golf for over 10 years, and no one ever corrected me. And it’s like I didn’t know if was stableford, I’ve seen it written down hundreds of times, it’s just I’ve always said wrong 🤦♂️
You still knew what I meant though 😎
Thanks for watching
6:02 Stapleford????
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I feel your reviews would be so much better if you slowed down, no need to race through good content.
Thanks for watching and taking the time to share your feedback, really appreciate it and I’ll take it on board 👍
i do like the watch but it does not do dog legs
Lots of shots missing, holes incorrect, tees incorrect, strap end always flies free - mine will go on ebay
Yeah I had all those issue too, very frustrating as it has so much potential
It's stableford, with a B.
Can you believe I went 10 years without anyone correcting until this video....live and learn :)
stableford* :)
Fair
Absolute shite bought this a couple of months ago and I hate it . The watch band even irritates me. It’s the wrong way round and the clasp clip keeps popping out. The long and short is it’s a lot of fanny and doesn’t do what it says on the tin. Oh and it doesn’t stay connected to the satellite
Thanks for watching Quinton. I didn’t really mention the strap but your right, rightly it has started to come undone quite a lot while I’m using it which is really annoying.
its staBleford not staPleford
Thanks for watching. I feel like an idiot as I know its stableford but my brain always wants to say stapleford 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️ when I was editing I decided to just leave it 🤣
Stephen, stop being such a crushing bore and thank the man for providing a useful product video.
well, you didnt tell anything „new“, or others didn‘t…. so this is just clickbaiting… 👎🏼
Thanks for watching Vordemberge Photograph and for taking the time to comment. From my research at the time, every review on this watch was positively glowing, and hardly reference any of the negative aspects that I highlight, and if they did, were dealt with in a trivial way. I'm happy with the way I've presented this review and I stand by it - this watch is a great idea and has a lot of potential for improving your game, so long as you're will to accommodate it's weaknesses, which are significant in my view.
your discount code takes this watch down to £144.49 today, 10/08/22, which is a great price for a gps with tracking. I have been trying to decide which gps to get since my S1 packed in, this one is £160 everywhere online, so your code makes this a bargain, thanks
Awesome stuff! Thanks for watching Dave and using the code!
@@GolfGuyReviews oh, also the G3 is down to £110 with your code, which is the same as the Garmin S12, but has a lot better screen in my opinion of course 👍
Good honest review of the good, the bad and the niggly. BTW it's StaBleford, not Stapleford.
Thanks Andy, appreciate you watching and commenting 👍 rookie mistake from me, it’s because we have a local course called Stapleford Abotts, and for some reason I always mix the two up 🤦♂️🤦♂️
My mate says the same thing because we have Stapleford woods near by. I like the no nonsense channels for reviews, etc and this hits the mark 👍🏻
Got to say that ShotScope is a complete POS! I have the V3, and it stopped working after only owning it for 6 months. Now it's been nearly three months later they've sent me 3 watches, and it still doesn't work! Their support does not care and do not help in any way shape or form! Save your money and find some that works and has support that cares!
Sorry to hear you've had a bad experience, mine is still going strong so had no need t test out their customer support yet.
@@GolfGuyReviews I’m on watch 3! And it still doesn’t work, and THEY DONT CARE! Find another product to promote, they fing suck!
@@GolfGuyReviews they’ve also stretched it out over and over to make sure I lost my warranty! It’s one year, and I’ve been down for going on 4 months!