I feel so bad for him, to be honest. He’s dealt with a lot of shit over this movie. Anna Todd doesn’t understand no meaning no either, as evidenced by how hard she kept trying to get him to reply to her. He blocked her all over and she still kept trying.
This author really went “isn’t it messed up that he’s publishing this without her consent?” while making millions depicting a real man she’s never met as a violent abuser lol
the author *barely* said that. *barely*. at most she lightly criticised it, but literally everyone forgives him at a moment's notice and Tessa gets back with him at the end of the film anyway because idk they danced I guess? and he said that he's trying to change 50 times so it must be true?
@@imamoronand9199 The movies don't show what the books do. It shows him actually do changing he goes to therapy and stop drinking, and they break up for 2 years, and he actually did change. These films just don't show that they just skip the head and cut parts out way too much that it doesn't show that, but he does change.
@@christina93d5 the books are still gross. i've read them because i hate myself, and it really doesn't show that he truly changed. it says he has, but we don't see enough of him being different to prove it. also… does it matter? he still abused her and took advantage of her, exploiting her naivety and ruining her life in multiple ways. if he got better, great. good for him. but he should stay away from her because even if he's different, there is still a past that gives him power over her.
@@mijiah Okay, Karen, because you clearly have a stick up your a** And you think all relationships are sunshine and rainbows? That's not the case. Every relationship is toxic in some way and Tessa wasn't exactly innocent. She cheated not only on Noah but also unhearted too. She used Zed and made the poor guy think she liked him when in reality she was just using him to get back at Hardin and she also be friends every single guy and she doesn't realize that they're into her. She got mad at him when he expected her to move with him to London. But she's a hypocrite because she literally did the same thing when she wanted him to move to Chicago with her so she got mad at him for doing that. But then when she does it, it's perfectly fine.
I personally choose to believe that the Movies are adaptations of Hardin's Books and that the truth is that Tessa left him and has basically been in hiding for years
My version is that Hardin is a delusion stalker who is imprisoned after he set the house on fire and he wrote the book in prison and the psychiatrist is really disappointed with him bc he doesn’t want to face his delusions and everything in the books didn’t happen
The fact in the book, it was even worse. Natalie was disowned from her family and from her community , she ended up homeless, lost her scholarship. He RUINED her life. Completely. This movie was a joke. It made me so angry.
the amount of hardin family members who have changed their faces throughout the series bc all the actors kept leaving the franchise always makes me giggle lmao
How did they manage to create a character so awful in every way, make him progressively worse through each movie, and STILL somehow manage to find a new low in this one????
I mean to their defense... Hardin is even WORSE in the books, especially the original ones on wattpad. A lot of his crimes were made to look "better" in the published books and in the movie.
@@evea.4358 I have learned this by watching videos like Carley's previous one, I am truly baffled that any one likes this character at all, he's an absolute monster???
@@TheJeannag He truly is! I just think the book is a product of its time and it should have stayed there. Back then fanfics, romance books and movies were all about good girl meets bad boy, good girl tries to fix bad boy, bad boy hurts good girl, good girl forgives, they get married, the end. I was a teenager and obsessed with fanfics and every single one of them was EXACTLY like this. I was clueless and had no idea how wrong and abusive these stories were. Now looking back as an adult I'm truly baffled about how many of us romanticized these relationships as teens. But I feel like at this point these type of stories aren't as popular so I don't know who these movies are supposed to br appealing to???? Maybe teenagers again? (I hope not).
The sixth After movie is about how Hardin gets arrested for all his crimes against humanity and then Tessa takes the kids and runs away with Sebastian, officially escaping the DV situation and they all live happily ever after.
the natalie situation in the books is much worse. if i remember correctly, he recorded it without her knowledge or consent, and showed it to his friends who spread the video. When she lost her scholarship and got kicked out of her house, she asked Hardin if she could stay with him and he said no because "it wasn't his problem"
@@uncarley he committed so many atrocities in the book, including keeping the bloody sheets from Tessa’s first time to show to his friends and beating Zed to the point of hospitalization over something stupid
doesn't he also tell Tessa in the books about him doing this and he tells her that he still doesn't feel bad at all for ruining Natalie's life? he's awful in the movies but he's even worse in the books (apparently, I haven't read them myself but have watched videos about them)
@deniceomene3391 That's literally a felony in the UK and the fact that the movie is treating us like we're supposed to feel bad for him getting his ass whooped
@@emilyb.8219 yes. I think he only starts feeling bad when tessa wants him to feel bad 😭😭 and then he kinda apologises but not because he really wants to
I will personally never EVER get over the fact, that "after" literally means "butthole" in German. And I'm sitting here, having to remind myself that this movie isn't about everything butthole.
@@leanashine i've often heard people use it as everyday language (i mean, i haven't heard ppl use it that much lmao, but if they did it wasn't in a professional context)
@@shargreen9950 reminds me of a celebrity news in my childhood where an actress sued a man (who was within the same circle but not really an actor) for hiding a camera while they had sex. it was a huge scandal since he did it with other women.
I'm convinced that if you put a suspenseful soundtrack to this movie, it would actually be a horror film. The movie actively tries to gaslight you into thinking it's a romance.
Wasn't Hardin the same douchebag who was like, "no I don't want kids nor do I want to marry you" but switched when she clearly said that she needed space from him? Then he was like, "I'll do that only if you agree to marry me"
I know people comment this a lot but I must reiterate how grateful we all are that you sacrifice your time and brain cells to provide us with entertainment. Queen sh!t only.
In the first book Hardin's bet about Tessa was also originally about getting Tessa to sleep with him (not fall in love) and they made it more socially acceptable for the movie
As a woman who's had this one dude harass me for "forgiveness" instead of listening and leaving me aloneee it's fkn evil and selfish like whyyy make this movie like you're telling the young girls who watch this that it's okay or even romantic to do this 🥴
i know like leave me alone its actually not my job to make you feel better for the horrible things you've done you actually just have to live with it babe
@@uncarley She only told him to leave her alone once and she went looking for him and asked for his number. So she was stalking him actually she wanted him. She even tried to kiss him knowing that he's in love with someone else only to get rejected.
@@Rocket2796 No one forced her to be in it. She auditioned and decided to be in her. And I'm sorry, but your girl Mimi is not a good actress. She's terrible her. Facial expressions were weird and the way she opened her mouth was weird. This is not even the real Natalie natalie and the books is not like this. She's a strong woman and actually got a better life. She actually got engaged and pregnant and was happy and she was still living London and didn't have to move to Portugal this movie. But traded Natalie as a pathetic character still hung up on harden.
I’m gonna need Natalie to un-forgive Hardin for the revenge p*rn and releasing a book about their history without asking her beforehand. Hardin needs to get beaten up like Nick St. Clair in season two of riverdale. At least that much.
I’m a new subscriber and am so glad to see this trash movie’s review. I’ve never seen one of these fanfics, just the reviews. I cannot explain just how much the name “Hardin” annoys me because of the character. It’s truly like nails on a chalkboard. It does make me giggle a bit to know the name meaning involves lil bunnies though…
also fun fact i saw on twitter is that the actress who played tessa did not agree to this movie, the final part of the movie was supposed to be on the fourth movie, and did not win a single for it, so they used what they had of her in the last movie and put on fifth movie, was a whole mess, hardin should be in jail NOW
I quite literally only read after while it was on wattpad because I wanted to know the hype. Wasn’t a one direction fan or fanfic reader. I was like 13 so a lot of it went over my head but looking back that series was so unhinged. Like Harry Styles my bad Hardin was a VILLAIN
The fact that poor Harry was a MINOR at the time makes it all so much worse. People always fucking wanted to portray him as this womaniser, when really he was quite sweet. Not to mention like you said, many teens read this and thought it was the absolute epitome of romance. Yeah a whole generation is fucked up about what love is.
@@hailsaep13 I could be wrong but didn’t he allegedly get a restraining order on the author ?? That’s the tea that was going around a few years ago 😭 the books were so toxic and the demographic was mainly preteen/early teen girls reading it. When they became published a girl in my 8th grade class got the book for her bday. A few years ago I saw a girl who was at most 13 was begging her mom at target for the book… the toxicity in the series is worse than what the movies show so I guess it’s good they somewhat changed it? But barely Also I’m like 99.9% sure part of the book plot surrounds Tessa’s fertility and how she’s maybe infertile ? And Hardin/Harry includes that in his fucking secret manuscript and talks about how it’s feels like he’s robbed of his nonexistent kids ?? It’s been almost 10yrs but I swear that happened in the wattpad books. I’m assuming it didn’t happen in the movies as it wasn’t talked about here but genuinely the author was writing insane stuff
That guy needs to get a life seriously. He makes fun of every single movie and TV show. He doesn't like anything he's just a bitter person who has no job
at this point, someone just give carly the medal of bravery. every time she releases a video we know that she has gone through tremendous trauma to protect our sanity. a true blue braveheart.
Jesus the brain rot concept of having a celebrity play a person from a book written in a movie based on another book based on a fanfic based on that same celebrity is just so After-esque in its unhingedness I can’t even- No I don’t understand the above paragraph either. I wouldn’t even know where to start punctuating 😭 I can’t be assed please. I said what I said😂
I feel like red white and royal blue is like chicken noodle soup when you have a cold, like, you cant taste shit so its not that great but its so comforting. It wasnt groundbreaking or anything, but it was silly in a fun and wholesome way. I have never watched any of the after movies, unless they include free therapy with the movie ticket i never will. ill just suffer them vicariously through you Ty for your service ur majesty
I think the safest option for a woman to be in the 'After' universe is a slut. You show up with kick ass hair, say a few "mean" things to the protagonist and then you're spared any sort of retribution or consequence for being in close proximity to Harden.
hardin's in-universe books are giving major "diary of an oxygen thief" vibes (derogatory) like i think the 2014 coquette tumblr girls would've eaten it up unfortunately
holy shit, memory unlocked!! That book was fuel for my 14 year edgy self going through an identity crisis & every other crisis. I thought it was the coldest, hardest shit ever. Looking back, that book was actually awful & could only be seen as good by edgy 14 yr olds. It should be called "Diary of a man who needs therapy". What was wrong with my younger self im cringing so bad now 😭 So glad i grew out of that mindset before i became a Hardin 🤮
its crazy how they made Sebastian the bad guy when he was beating harden up i was totally on his side like??? how can u make ur male lead THAT unlikeable
When people are young, they do bad stuff and he was young. He wasn't exactly in the right state of mind. He was an alcoholic who was raped as a young child and saw his mother. Being beaten and raped, you can't expect someone that's like that to be perfectly fine in the right state of mind when he did all this stuff.
Idk if you’ve mentioned this before but I recently learned that Josephine Langford (Tessa) is the sister of Katherine Langford (Hannah Baker) and that fact made so much sense but also makes my brain hurt
This movie was the only one in the After series that almost made me leave the cinema. When I went with my best friend we knew it would be bad, but realizing that the movie was mostly about Hardin and him not learning anything made me think of leaving my seat. The whole series is bad, but this movie was worse. It felt like it was made by some kids that think this is what every young adult's love life is.
It was written by a young woman in her 20s, with a military husband who she married at 18(!!!). It's so obvious that she has no idea about university life or adult relationships and she definitely sees herself in Tessa a lot.
@@evea.4358 Do you know almost every movie? And TV show was based on books and fan fictions and was written by women that were very young. The story is also to teach people that someone like harden who went through so much. Who went through rape and alcoholism and terrible childhood could always change. The books show way more. It shows that harden does change. The movie doesn't really show that that much. So maybe stop being so d*** judgmental.
After Sex Education I wished Mimi was featured in more movies and tv series, because omg she is an amazing actress. And then I saw she is in this movie 😢
I truly do hate that the "original Tessa dare" was actually to take her V-card, same with Natalie 💀and that changing it in the movies makes Hardin seem "better" with Tessa's dare but also it never goes full circle because the dares are different in movie form, I hate this saga 😭
loved this sm, highlights included: 'hardin wishes he was caroline calloway' 'are you that's so ravening?' 'i don't agree in the prison industrial complex except for hardin' truly so grateful for your service in watching these films so we don't have to, your sacrifices are not in vain
I had a stroke during a surgery a few months ago (im fucking 31) and I'm like at a stage where I'm trying to do brain excercises to heal my crappy memory. Somehow following this storyline is helping.
I remember a summary of the books by another booktuber (paperbackdreams if anyone wants to check) and I don't exactly remember if this was a line she checked from the watpad story or the book. But in that version, Hardin proposes in a bathroom at a party and Tessa says "yeah, I guess so" which is so insane. And Hardin convinces her to think about it while they drive down to Las Vegas? To get married in Las Vegas. I genuinely hope Anna Todd never gets married, for her own sake, if this is what she thinks it's like
@@captaincardi.1633 And why you worried about her husband exactly? You guys hate this woman for writing a story just like everyone does. You guys are literally s******* on a guide. That was raped as a young child and saying that he's terrible. He deserves everything that he has coming to him.
Okay thank goodness you mentioned the Red, White and Royal Blue video because thought I saw it and then it was gone, but I was on an edible at the time and was like “Did I hallucinate Carley content?!?”
I’m going to imagine the fifth movie is about SVU getting involved after Natalie came out and reported what Hardin did, Tessa following suit since he published their relationship without her consent and Hardin goes to prison.
carly did you see that another wattpad fanfic (not shame on them, i love a good ol ' fanfic but this one is...bad) became a movie? and the WORST thing is: a siblings to lovers + mafia. Is called 'my fault' and is soooo unhinged BTW loved the video and cannot wait for the riverdale deep dive part 2
Theres something about him talking about how much he is struggling and then buying a first class ticket for what is AT MOST a 3 hour flight from london to lisbon that cracks me up lol
I just wish people realised how bad these movies are at its core tbh. Its bad enough that this was spawned from a fanfiction about Harry Styles and a woman like 6 years his senior or something, but I've seen people defend it saying "bUt ItS nOt HaRry AnYmoRE" while disregarding that *this was the original idea*, and its gross, and somehow thats the least of its problems
I live in Australia where it didn't even get a theatrical release so I had to stream it and oh boy it was an ... experience. Edit: 14:05 God no, do not send Hardin here!!
I know this isn't related to the video but thankyou so much for speaking up for Palestine and not doing the bs neutral stance. So many RUclipsrs I watch are either silent or neutral and both are so harmful for the cause. I've had to unfollow a lot of people these past few days and I'm glad you're not one of them.😊
of course! thank you for saying this i actually have been so deeply mad these last couple of days at people i know with PLATFORMS who refuse to speak out its dangerous and cowardly!! literally made me have to unfollow people too because i cant believe someone would rather remain "neutral" to make money online! evil!
Sorry I just had absolutely war flashbacks from the Spider-Man fandom when I realized the guy that makes the watch bet w Hardin is played by Tom hollands bestie Harrison Osterfield
carley I love that I am not alone in saying this but I NEEDED THIS TONIGHT, god bless your prescience of our collective despair that can only be temporarily relieved by watching your own despair also wow gotta get me a sebastian
ok but "if I were traumatized..... !?" I choked on my ice cream this series at least gets credit for starting and ending as a conventional love story but going on the most unhinged journey to get us there and every single person involved being worse off for it
Also I love that you said his accent sounds fake because I assumed the same thing and then I saw an interview with him and when he spoke I was mind blown
bestie, I've just recently discovered your channel but have been binge watching since, so you already feel like my bestie, sorry. And you KNOW that I only rushed to watch the last After movie because I wanted to ENJOY your video. So here I am, just watched it, I'm obviously flabbergasted at what I just witnessed of course. But I'm ligthing myself a joint and hitting play on your analisis. YES.
I'm so glad that at least one man, Sebastian, is in fact sane enough to know that Hardin needs to be hurt physically and emotionally in the same way that he has hurt other women. also #teachamanalesson would deffo be my preferred role in the after universe solely cause they don't interact with the man for too long
Just remembered I watched the previous after video while I was on vacation with friends, now I'm nostalgic, but at least I can dissociate from the absolute menace to society this movie is 👍
I don't know how it was in the books but Sebastian to me knew or for the least guessed what that boy did to Natalie. He attacked him when he was cozying up to Natalie's friend which tells me he was being protective of all the girls. GO SEBBIE
The English wikipedia article states there will be two other movies, about the children of Tessa and Hardin. So... i eagerly await your video about those in the future! :D Also i am a bit sad to see Mimi Keene played a role in this, i really loved her in the series Sex Education and wished her only the best.
From comments I've seen on this dumpster fire movie, the actress who played Tessa was like I'm sick of playing her so I'm done okay bye ✌🏼 And I love that for her
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Ok but the fact that they had the line where the girl was like "maybe they'll make your book a movie and Harry Styles will play you" was OUTRAGEOUS
That was a violation 😂😂
And also double funny because Harry Styles is ALLEGEDLY a bad actor too lmao
@@abyblue7287allegedly? we've got the evidence of the bad acting on tape
I feel so bad for him, to be honest. He’s dealt with a lot of shit over this movie. Anna Todd doesn’t understand no meaning no either, as evidenced by how hard she kept trying to get him to reply to her. He blocked her all over and she still kept trying.
@@abyblue7287I MEAN what was that one movie Harry Styles was in?? Blooming onion!?!
THIS LINE REDEEMED MY SINS IN WATCHING THIS SERIES
This author really went “isn’t it messed up that he’s publishing this without her consent?” while making millions depicting a real man she’s never met as a violent abuser lol
hahahahaha
the author *barely* said that. *barely*. at most she lightly criticised it, but literally everyone forgives him at a moment's notice and Tessa gets back with him at the end of the film anyway because idk they danced I guess? and he said that he's trying to change 50 times so it must be true?
@@imamoronand9199 The movies don't show what the books do. It shows him actually do changing he goes to therapy and stop drinking, and they break up for 2 years, and he actually did change. These films just don't show that they just skip the head and cut parts out way too much that it doesn't show that, but he does change.
@@christina93d5 the books are still gross. i've read them because i hate myself, and it really doesn't show that he truly changed. it says he has, but we don't see enough of him being different to prove it. also… does it matter? he still abused her and took advantage of her, exploiting her naivety and ruining her life in multiple ways. if he got better, great. good for him. but he should stay away from her because even if he's different, there is still a past that gives him power over her.
@@mijiah Okay, Karen, because you clearly have a stick up your a** And you think all relationships are sunshine and rainbows? That's not the case. Every relationship is toxic in some way and Tessa wasn't exactly innocent. She cheated not only on Noah but also unhearted too. She used Zed and made the poor guy think she liked him when in reality she was just using him to get back at Hardin and she also be friends every single guy and she doesn't realize that they're into her. She got mad at him when he expected her to move with him to London. But she's a hypocrite because she literally did the same thing when she wanted him to move to Chicago with her so she got mad at him for doing that. But then when she does it, it's perfectly fine.
I personally choose to believe that the Movies are adaptations of Hardin's Books and that the truth is that Tessa left him and has basically been in hiding for years
Omg unreliable narrator...
@@hipanna2773 To the extreme
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😭😭😭😭😭
My version is that Hardin is a delusion stalker who is imprisoned after he set the house on fire and he wrote the book in prison and the psychiatrist is really disappointed with him bc he doesn’t want to face his delusions and everything in the books didn’t happen
honestly i love this
The fact that he’s done TWO sex based bets is CRAZY electric chair
he needs to be locked up
And even more in the books 😂
RIGHT???? like after the revenge porn thing youd think hed have learned his lesson and not pulled that shit with tessa 😭 insane
the fact Hardin didn’t even have the decency to even change Tessa’s name
I KNOW HE DESERVES JAIL
the true victims of this movie are Natalie and these poor children who have to live with Hardin and Tessa as their parents
i know im gonna call cps
Whatever happened to Tessa not being able to get pregnant through and now she’s having two…
@@hassadahthe after series isn't known for being consistent lol. Gotta have the big shocker yk
The fact in the book, it was even worse. Natalie was disowned from her family and from her community , she ended up homeless, lost her scholarship. He RUINED her life. Completely. This movie was a joke. It made me so angry.
NOOOOOO this is awful
Doesnt he send the video to her brother in the book too?
@@seraphina1724yes and also she did not even know he filmed it 🥲
@@seraphina1724 that's someone else. Samantha, I believe
@@captaincardi.1633wait, who is Samantha? Another of his victims?
the amount of hardin family members who have changed their faces throughout the series bc all the actors kept leaving the franchise always makes me giggle lmao
i was legit so confused 💀
How did they manage to create a character so awful in every way, make him progressively worse through each movie, and STILL somehow manage to find a new low in this one????
its actually baffling
I mean to their defense... Hardin is even WORSE in the books, especially the original ones on wattpad. A lot of his crimes were made to look "better" in the published books and in the movie.
@@evea.4358 I have learned this by watching videos like Carley's previous one, I am truly baffled that any one likes this character at all, he's an absolute monster???
@@TheJeannag He truly is! I just think the book is a product of its time and it should have stayed there. Back then fanfics, romance books and movies were all about good girl meets bad boy, good girl tries to fix bad boy, bad boy hurts good girl, good girl forgives, they get married, the end. I was a teenager and obsessed with fanfics and every single one of them was EXACTLY like this. I was clueless and had no idea how wrong and abusive these stories were. Now looking back as an adult I'm truly baffled about how many of us romanticized these relationships as teens. But I feel like at this point these type of stories aren't as popular so I don't know who these movies are supposed to br appealing to???? Maybe teenagers again? (I hope not).
good writing I guess....../jk
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The sixth After movie is about how Hardin gets arrested for all his crimes against humanity and then Tessa takes the kids and runs away with Sebastian, officially escaping the DV situation and they all live happily ever after.
fuck yes i will donate to the gofundme
sometimes carleys eyes widen like shes actually insane and i shudder at the thought of what a sixth after movie would do to her
i have seen some shit
the natalie situation in the books is much worse. if i remember correctly, he recorded it without her knowledge or consent, and showed it to his friends who spread the video. When she lost her scholarship and got kicked out of her house, she asked Hardin if she could stay with him and he said no because "it wasn't his problem"
NOOOOOOO
@@uncarley he committed so many atrocities in the book, including keeping the bloody sheets from Tessa’s first time to show to his friends and beating Zed to the point of hospitalization over something stupid
doesn't he also tell Tessa in the books about him doing this and he tells her that he still doesn't feel bad at all for ruining Natalie's life? he's awful in the movies but he's even worse in the books (apparently, I haven't read them myself but have watched videos about them)
@deniceomene3391 That's literally a felony in the UK and the fact that the movie is treating us like we're supposed to feel bad for him getting his ass whooped
@@emilyb.8219 yes. I think he only starts feeling bad when tessa wants him to feel bad 😭😭 and then he kinda apologises but not because he really wants to
I will personally never EVER get over the fact, that "after" literally means "butthole" in German. And I'm sitting here, having to remind myself that this movie isn't about everything butthole.
I'M DYING
Thats unreal 😂😂😂
You truly learn something new everyday!
To be fair, it's more of a medical term and not something people say in everyday life
@@leanashine i've often heard people use it as everyday language (i mean, i haven't heard ppl use it that much lmao, but if they did it wasn't in a professional context)
Pretty sure in the original book, Natalie didn’t even consent to it being filmed AT ALL and Hardin secretly filmed it…I could be wrong though 😭
NOOOOO
no you’re right 😭 that’s what exactly happened sadly
Yes he hides the video camera on his dresser
@@shargreen9950 reminds me of a celebrity news in my childhood where an actress sued a man (who was within the same circle but not really an actor) for hiding a camera while they had sex. it was a huge scandal since he did it with other women.
I'm convinced that if you put a suspenseful soundtrack to this movie, it would actually be a horror film. The movie actively tries to gaslight you into thinking it's a romance.
YES its a horror
all i remember from the book series is that tessa responds "uh, yeah I guess so" to the proposal like maybe marriage is not the right option
tessa no girl
wait what, i thought they ended the book with kids but she didn't believe in marriage so they didn't marry?
Wasn't Hardin the same douchebag who was like, "no I don't want kids nor do I want to marry you" but switched when she clearly said that she needed space from him? Then he was like, "I'll do that only if you agree to marry me"
I know people comment this a lot but I must reiterate how grateful we all are that you sacrifice your time and brain cells to provide us with entertainment. Queen sh!t only.
anytime bestie i am so happy to help
Wish that at Landon and Nora’s wedding, after Hardin’s speech, Tessa just went, ‘lol, BET’ and drop-kicked him. It would have cleansed my soul
i would have celebrated
In the first book Hardin's bet about Tessa was also originally about getting Tessa to sleep with him (not fall in love) and they made it more socially acceptable for the movie
JAIL
yeah he also proves that he took her virginity by showing them the blood stained sheets@@uncarley
ALSOOOOO when he TOOK HER BLOODY LOST VIRGINITY SHEETS OUT OF THE GARBAGE TO SHOW HIS FRIENDS??!?!?!??? LIKEEEE
As a woman who's had this one dude harass me for "forgiveness" instead of listening and leaving me aloneee it's fkn evil and selfish like whyyy make this movie like you're telling the young girls who watch this that it's okay or even romantic to do this 🥴
i know like leave me alone its actually not my job to make you feel better for the horrible things you've done you actually just have to live with it babe
@@uncarley She only told him to leave her alone once and she went looking for him and asked for his number. So she was stalking him actually she wanted him. She even tried to kiss him knowing that he's in love with someone else only to get rejected.
6:11 I love that the file that contains his second book is just called "Document2"
I KNOW
i hope Mimi got a fat check for participating in this garbage and carrying it on her back is all I have to say
and we support her
@@uncarley absolutely we do!
@@Rocket2796 No one forced her to be in it. She auditioned and decided to be in her. And I'm sorry, but your girl Mimi is not a good actress. She's terrible her.
Facial expressions were weird and the way she opened her mouth was weird. This is not even the real Natalie natalie and the books is not like this. She's a strong woman and actually got a better life. She actually got engaged and pregnant and was happy and she was still living London and didn't have to move to Portugal this movie. But traded Natalie as a pathetic character still hung up on harden.
@@uncarley If Mimi is so great, then worse her other movies. She's a terrible actress you people think she's good
@@christina93d5massive doubt
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In the book she can’t have children and he gets mad at her 🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩 There’s no consequences for Hardins actions, like never
She does have their kids apparently in the book
I love how when there's a plothole in the movie she doesn't blame the writers or directors, she blames Harden directly which is so correct lol
I’m gonna need Natalie to un-forgive Hardin for the revenge p*rn and releasing a book about their history without asking her beforehand. Hardin needs to get beaten up like Nick St. Clair in season two of riverdale. At least that much.
Why doesn’t she sell her story to the press how the big romance novel author betrayed her and than he has a big metoo scandal and is cancelled forever
finish him natalie!
He didn't force her to have sex with him
@@christina93d5but he did film it without her consent, and sent the video to everyone, which destroyed her life basically
@@elliegrace3631 She consented to it. He asked her if he could film it and she said. Yes, maybe you should try watching the movie.
Anytime a person that has traumatized me tries to initiate interaction I’m just going to lead with “you owe me a house”.
this is your right
Lol apparently the lack of Tessa is because Josephine Langford did not want to participate in the filming of this movie
Maybe it’s because of that horrible wig they had her wear in the fourth movie.
Sorry, but it was so distracting 😂
I’m a new subscriber and am so glad to see this trash movie’s review. I’ve never seen one of these fanfics, just the reviews. I cannot explain just how much the name “Hardin” annoys me because of the character. It’s truly like nails on a chalkboard. It does make me giggle a bit to know the name meaning involves lil bunnies though…
Lil bunnies? I really thought she made a hard on pun because she needed to replace Harry Styles with her own character 😅😅
This is the way I choose to consume these movies also 😂
hahahaha amazing
I will never watch these movies myself, but i thank you for your service. Keeping us educated as always
anytime bestie!
when the world (me) needed her most
omg
also fun fact i saw on twitter is that the actress who played tessa did not agree to this movie, the final part of the movie was supposed to be on the fourth movie, and did not win a single for it, so they used what they had of her in the last movie and put on fifth movie, was a whole mess, hardin should be in jail NOW
uncarley: I wanna put good vibes into the universe
studio: *releases 5th after movie*
i have no choice but negativity unfortunately
It's not your fault. They left you no choice. Hardin strikes again.
I quite literally only read after while it was on wattpad because I wanted to know the hype. Wasn’t a one direction fan or fanfic reader. I was like 13 so a lot of it went over my head but looking back that series was so unhinged. Like Harry Styles my bad Hardin was a VILLAIN
The fact that poor Harry was a MINOR at the time makes it all so much worse. People always fucking wanted to portray him as this womaniser, when really he was quite sweet. Not to mention like you said, many teens read this and thought it was the absolute epitome of romance. Yeah a whole generation is fucked up about what love is.
yikes! this is so bad!
@@hailsaep13 I could be wrong but didn’t he allegedly get a restraining order on the author ?? That’s the tea that was going around a few years ago 😭 the books were so toxic and the demographic was mainly preteen/early teen girls reading it. When they became published a girl in my 8th grade class got the book for her bday. A few years ago I saw a girl who was at most 13 was begging her mom at target for the book… the toxicity in the series is worse than what the movies show so I guess it’s good they somewhat changed it? But barely
Also I’m like 99.9% sure part of the book plot surrounds Tessa’s fertility and how she’s maybe infertile ? And Hardin/Harry includes that in his fucking secret manuscript and talks about how it’s feels like he’s robbed of his nonexistent kids ?? It’s been almost 10yrs but I swear that happened in the wattpad books. I’m assuming it didn’t happen in the movies as it wasn’t talked about here but genuinely the author was writing insane stuff
that sweet dopamine rush i get when i see carley dropped a new piece of gold on us
omg bestie thank you!
Now we need "Dylan is in Trouble" Reacting to the final AFTER movie. Watching him go crazy with anger towards Hardin😂😂😂
That guy needs to get a life seriously. He makes fun of every single movie and TV show. He doesn't like anything he's just a bitter person who has no job
my day needed this chaos 🙏🙏🙏 thank you Carley
i am so happy to oblige
at this point, someone just give carly the medal of bravery. every time she releases a video we know that she has gone through tremendous trauma to protect our sanity. a true blue braveheart.
i WANT IT
THANKYOU for recognizing sebastian for the king that he is
he did what needed to be done!
@@uncarley yesss he gave hardin exactly what he deserved!!
Hardin’s book cover is giving “graphic design is my passion”
The ultimate girl boss move is sacrificing your time and mental health for our entertainment. Nobody does it better
yesss
Jesus the brain rot concept of having a celebrity play a person from a book written in a movie based on another book based on a fanfic based on that same celebrity is just so After-esque in its unhingedness I can’t even-
No I don’t understand the above paragraph either. I wouldn’t even know where to start punctuating 😭 I can’t be assed please. I said what I said😂
so meta 😂😂😂
its the matrix of brain rot
I feel like red white and royal blue is like chicken noodle soup when you have a cold, like, you cant taste shit so its not that great but its so comforting. It wasnt groundbreaking or anything, but it was silly in a fun and wholesome way.
I have never watched any of the after movies, unless they include free therapy with the movie ticket i never will. ill just suffer them vicariously through you
Ty for your service ur majesty
I think the safest option for a woman to be in the 'After' universe is a slut. You show up with kick ass hair, say a few "mean" things to the protagonist and then you're spared any sort of retribution or consequence for being in close proximity to Harden.
Damn Anna Todd was more sex-positive than I thought!
hardin's in-universe books are giving major "diary of an oxygen thief" vibes (derogatory) like i think the 2014 coquette tumblr girls would've eaten it up unfortunately
ABSOLUTELY
holy shit, memory unlocked!! That book was fuel for my 14 year edgy self going through an identity crisis & every other crisis. I thought it was the coldest, hardest shit ever. Looking back, that book was actually awful & could only be seen as good by edgy 14 yr olds. It should be called "Diary of a man who needs therapy". What was wrong with my younger self im cringing so bad now 😭 So glad i grew out of that mindset before i became a Hardin 🤮
Oh we did back when it was still just a fanfic in 2014 😔
its crazy how they made Sebastian the bad guy when he was beating harden up i was totally on his side like??? how can u make ur male lead THAT unlikeable
When people are young, they do bad stuff and he was young. He wasn't exactly in the right state of mind. He was an alcoholic who was raped as a young child and saw his mother. Being beaten and raped, you can't expect someone that's like that to be perfectly fine in the right state of mind when he did all this stuff.
Idk if you’ve mentioned this before but I recently learned that Josephine Langford (Tessa) is the sister of Katherine Langford (Hannah Baker) and that fact made so much sense but also makes my brain hurt
isnt it wild
I’m on my knees - PLEASE do an unhinged on Gossip Girl (esp Blaire and Chuck aka Bluck? CHAIRE?)
This movie was the only one in the After series that almost made me leave the cinema. When I went with my best friend we knew it would be bad, but realizing that the movie was mostly about Hardin and him not learning anything made me think of leaving my seat. The whole series is bad, but this movie was worse. It felt like it was made by some kids that think this is what every young adult's love life is.
i KNOW like at least i root for tessa to get out of this relationship but if she's gone we're in the trenches
It was written by a young woman in her 20s, with a military husband who she married at 18(!!!). It's so obvious that she has no idea about university life or adult relationships and she definitely sees herself in Tessa a lot.
@@uncarley People can change Blondie.
@@evea.4358 Do you know almost every movie? And TV show was based on books and fan fictions and was written by women that were very young. The story is also to teach people that someone like harden who went through so much. Who went through rape and alcoholism and terrible childhood could always change. The books show way more. It shows that harden does change. The movie doesn't really show that that much. So maybe stop being so d*** judgmental.
Hardin proposing at someone else's wedding checks the fuck out. Because nothing is a bigger dick move than that.
Hardin will be the definition of "you are what you eat" and I hope he does when or IF he goes to prison
You're absolutely right, but I've seen this in alot of other movies & tv shows... 😬🤷🏽♀️
After Sex Education I wished Mimi was featured in more movies and tv series, because omg she is an amazing actress.
And then I saw she is in this movie 😢
Well she decided to be in it guess she's not getting pthat. Many offers to be in movies or TV shows.
She was the one bright light in this hellhole of a series. (Maybe also Trevor…)
"tessa likes books nathalie likes wedding dresses, the two kinds of girls you can possible be" lmao
I truly do hate that the "original Tessa dare" was actually to take her V-card, same with Natalie 💀and that changing it in the movies makes Hardin seem "better" with Tessa's dare but also it never goes full circle because the dares are different in movie form, I hate this saga 😭
loved this sm, highlights included:
'hardin wishes he was caroline calloway'
'are you that's so ravening?'
'i don't agree in the prison industrial complex except for hardin'
truly so grateful for your service in watching these films so we don't have to, your sacrifices are not in vain
hahaha put these all on my tombstone please
I had a stroke during a surgery a few months ago (im fucking 31) and I'm like at a stage where I'm trying to do brain excercises to heal my crappy memory. Somehow following this storyline is helping.
im so sorry bestie! sending you good vibes and hoping you get well soon! at least this movie helped one person lol
"after" the day i've had, i needed this
stopppp
I guess you could use these movies as training material for young girls and boys about toxic relationships.
I remember a summary of the books by another booktuber (paperbackdreams if anyone wants to check) and I don't exactly remember if this was a line she checked from the watpad story or the book. But in that version, Hardin proposes in a bathroom at a party and Tessa says "yeah, I guess so" which is so insane. And Hardin convinces her to think about it while they drive down to Las Vegas? To get married in Las Vegas. I genuinely hope Anna Todd never gets married, for her own sake, if this is what she thinks it's like
She's a military wife so too late for that. I'm kinda worried about her husband
@@captaincardi.1633 And why you worried about her husband exactly? You guys hate this woman for writing a story just like everyone does.
You guys are literally s******* on a guide. That was raped as a young child and saying that he's terrible. He deserves everything that he has coming to him.
7:04 "Okay Thank you Why? Sorry" This is such an accurate representation of text suggestions
hahahha so true
Somebody get harden on a no fly list so these poor girls can escape lmao
Okay thank goodness you mentioned the Red, White and Royal Blue video because thought I saw it and then it was gone, but I was on an edible at the time and was like “Did I hallucinate Carley content?!?”
Do you know why it was taken down?
Been waiting on you to talk about this!!! Love seeing people dissect garbage lmao
hahaha thank you
I'm also 100%open to people having wronged me buying me a house in exchange of my forgiveness
Yes because you should be in an extremely toxic relationship and have kids, what could go wrong! Definitely not gonna effect the kids
I’m going to imagine the fifth movie is about SVU getting involved after Natalie came out and reported what Hardin did, Tessa following suit since he published their relationship without her consent and Hardin goes to prison.
i love how these movies are just an example of how to not behave
as a portuguese person, im traumatized for life knowing that this movie was filmed here
so sorry bestie stay strong
not portuguese but live/d in portugal and i am scarred. like i love portugal but now i'll think about after whenever i'm there
carly did you see that another wattpad fanfic (not shame on them, i love a good ol ' fanfic but this one is...bad) became a movie? and the WORST thing is: a siblings to lovers + mafia. Is called 'my fault' and is soooo unhinged
BTW loved the video and cannot wait for the riverdale deep dive part 2
Fun fact the actor who plays Sebastian is Bella Throne’s ex and a famous Italian singer (he’s half Italian half Australian) lol
the way i could listen to whatever Carley is talking about the whole damn day
omg thank you bestie!
YESSSSS AND WHEN THE WORLD NEEDED YOU MOST, YOU CAME, YOU SLAYED, YOU SERVED!
thank you!!
I hope everyone who profited from this film, EXCEPT mimi keene, goes to jail for fraud in a course of the next few years
yes save mimi from this movie
The "buy me a house and I'll forgive you" rant is iconic thank you RUclips for recommending me this channel 😂👏👏👏
Theres something about him talking about how much he is struggling and then buying a first class ticket for what is AT MOST a 3 hour flight from london to lisbon that cracks me up lol
hardin you wrote a bestseller i think you are fine babe
Me staring at the picture of the man holding a watch realizing it's Harrison Osterfield was the real surprise.
we thank you for your service through these dark years, and I enjoyed the video series very much!
!! im glad! thank u
I just wish people realised how bad these movies are at its core tbh. Its bad enough that this was spawned from a fanfiction about Harry Styles and a woman like 6 years his senior or something, but I've seen people defend it saying "bUt ItS nOt HaRry AnYmoRE" while disregarding that *this was the original idea*, and its gross, and somehow thats the least of its problems
there are layers to the badness of these movies
i'm going through pretty bad pregnancy symptoms and am on bedrest atm and i swear you uploading makes my whole day!
omg feel better! you've got this!
my cat's name is sebastian and his ears twitched or he looked up every time you said it (we frequently binge youtube content together) luv u
omg i love my fans (cats)
! i love my fans (cats)
I live in Australia where it didn't even get a theatrical release so I had to stream it and oh boy it was an ... experience.
Edit: 14:05 God no, do not send Hardin here!!
sorry!! we dont claim him in canada he has to go somewhere
I know this isn't related to the video but thankyou so much for speaking up for Palestine and not doing the bs neutral stance. So many RUclipsrs I watch are either silent or neutral and both are so harmful for the cause. I've had to unfollow a lot of people these past few days and I'm glad you're not one of them.😊
of course! thank you for saying this i actually have been so deeply mad these last couple of days at people i know with PLATFORMS who refuse to speak out its dangerous and cowardly!! literally made me have to unfollow people too because i cant believe someone would rather remain "neutral" to make money online! evil!
@@uncarley Exactly it's inhumane 💔💔. I hope the hate you might be receiving because of it isn't affecting u too much. Take care!
Bringing insane energy when hungry is so relatable 😂
sometimes it really brings the chaos you need
Sorry I just had absolutely war flashbacks from the Spider-Man fandom when I realized the guy that makes the watch bet w Hardin is played by Tom hollands bestie Harrison Osterfield
WHAT
I'm on a healing journey too which is why your videos give me life.💙💙💙
omg i love that
The worst thing of this whole movie was Tessas wig…
Literally a jump-scare when she turned around with that thing on her head💀
carley I love that I am not alone in saying this but I NEEDED THIS TONIGHT, god bless your prescience of our collective despair that can only be temporarily relieved by watching your own despair
also wow gotta get me a sebastian
ok but "if I were traumatized..... !?" I choked on my ice cream
this series at least gets credit for starting and ending as a conventional love story but going on the most unhinged journey to get us there and every single person involved being worse off for it
honestly so fair at least he brings entertainment for the masses
Also I love that you said his accent sounds fake because I assumed the same thing and then I saw an interview with him and when he spoke I was mind blown
Carley we NEED the Alex and Henry video in our lives!!! ❤ me like crazy if y'all agree!!
she's in the vault!
@@uncarley oh well then you gotta pull a Taylor and open it up!
The cover for hardon’s second book looks terrible. It looks like a yearbook or a sketch pad from Barnes and Nobles.
its SO BAD
bestie, I've just recently discovered your channel but have been binge watching since, so you already feel like my bestie, sorry. And you KNOW that I only rushed to watch the last After movie because I wanted to ENJOY your video. So here I am, just watched it, I'm obviously flabbergasted at what I just witnessed of course. But I'm ligthing myself a joint and hitting play on your analisis. YES.
I'm so glad that at least one man, Sebastian, is in fact sane enough to know that Hardin needs to be hurt physically and emotionally in the same way that he has hurt other women. also #teachamanalesson would deffo be my preferred role in the after universe solely cause they don't interact with the man for too long
we love sebastian!!
Just remembered I watched the previous after video while I was on vacation with friends, now I'm nostalgic, but at least I can dissociate from the absolute menace to society this movie is 👍
hahahah
I don't know how it was in the books but Sebastian to me knew or for the least guessed what that boy did to Natalie. He attacked him when he was cozying up to Natalie's friend which tells me he was being protective of all the girls. GO SEBBIE
So glad for another video! You crack me up. Thanks for ruining our lives with this, too.
anytime bestie!
The English wikipedia article states there will be two other movies, about the children of Tessa and Hardin. So... i eagerly await your video about those in the future! :D
Also i am a bit sad to see Mimi Keene played a role in this, i really loved her in the series Sex Education and wished her only the best.
noooooo
"Liam Payne of the impaulsive podcast" TOOK ME OUT LMFAOOOOO
his top credit!
From comments I've seen on this dumpster fire movie, the actress who played Tessa was like I'm sick of playing her so I'm done okay bye ✌🏼 And I love that for her
i love that for her
Can certainly say that is NOT the ending i was expecting. THANK YOU for sacrificing yourself for us like this