HeroQuest - Episode 3 - Customizing HeroQuest for Solo Play Without an App
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- Опубликовано: 13 сен 2023
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Thanks. Pin if possible 😊
There is a guy on defiant art,Odanan, who made classice monsters with littel extra abilities. From all the monsterstuff i saw in my hq journey, these are really nice, simple still but interesting.
The best thing about HeroQuest is...
...it's a great toolbox for playing OUR OWN systems!!! 😊
I did this as a 7 year old child on my bedroom floor and I think that's what I'll do again as a middle-aged father.
I think I might try something like the combat rules and weapons/equipment/runes from the Rune solo rpg with the HeroQuest components.
Great video, mate!! 👍
I agree! It’s a solid system for a foundation.
Hey thanks a lot for the great video!
Unless things go south with the print proofs, the next deck in the series, "AxianQuest Infinite Dungeon", will be available by the end of September/early October!
The deck is 77 cards (11 quest cards, 11 side quest cards, 7 Evil Mastermind cards, and 48 dungeon cards) and will allow gmless solo/coop play for 1 to 5 heroes. And, of course, it is designed to work seamlessly with the other axianquest decks. That's why some of the Dungeon Events cards specify what to do if there is no Zargon player!
- Giuseppe // Axian
Really looking forward to it!
Btw. HeroQuest is not so much a "one vs. many", as it's a very light "RPG" with the "overlord" role there to cater in as good an experience as possible 😃
But it’s adversarial. The evil wizard is still trying to win. You can play as an RPG, but RAW the evil wizard is trying to prevent the heroes from winning.
And by any definition it’s still not co-op or solo RAW, and that’s the point I was making, genre semantics aside.
@@TheDungeonDive True, Daniel. And fair enough, though that was never really the way HeroQuest was perceived back in the day ☺
Which can somewhat be gathered from some of the remarks throughout the different rule-books. E.g.:
"Zargon serves as the Game Master."
"Zargon, study this book carefully!
While it is your guide to running these adventures, it may not answer every question you have during play. When in doubt, use your experience and imagination to make the best choice.
Remember that you are the ultimate authority in your HERO QUEST world!"
"Zargon, if a Quest ends with disastrous results (such as death for all 4 Heroes), or goes unfinished, you should modify the Quest before it is replayed. You can do this by creating a new adventure using the blank map and symbols at the end of the Quest Book."
I'll add a 2008 perception of the game below here, which I found quite good (in reference to Descent at that time) 🙂
"When did Zargon become such a dick? (heading):
Back before 3rd Edition D&D came out we used to play HeroQuest* to get our low impact dungeon-crawling fix. Somebody would get drafted to be Zargon, the pseudo-GM who moved the monsters and read the dungeon description, and the rest of us would pick Elf or Wizard or Barbarian (Dwarf = everyone’s last choice) and stomp around smacking goblins.
It never failed to entertain, largely because it required absolutely no prep and was easy to get started, but was basically like playing simplified D&D.
Advance the clock a decade and a half and enter Descent. It’s like HeroQuest on steroids: much more nuts and bolts details, customizable characters along with a slightly more liberal interpretation of what a hero should look like (yes, that’s an orc pirate I think), a snazzier map system and a really fantastic set of figures (don’t get me wrong: the HeroQuest figures were awesome and we drafted them for many other games long after we stopped playing it, and the Descent figures will be no exception). Descent calls the pseudo-GM the Overlord, but we are nostalgic so we just call him Zargon instead (regardless of whether “he” is a man or a woman running the game - Zargon is gender-neutral it turns out).
Now we’ve played Descent a few times and it’s been okay… but not really, well, fun. In fact a little unfun. It’s a bit perplexing. The game looks like it should be great, and we start off excited, but then it starts to feel aggravating in a way that HeroQuest never did.
What’s the wrinkle? The difference (I think) is that unlike HeroQuest, whoever is sitting in the Overlord seat isn’t just moving monsters and deciding who to attack, he (or she) is making plans about when to play cards to bring in more monsters, traps, and other things to smite the heroes. The Overlord is an active decision maker.
It’s a small but critical change in the tone of the game. HeroQuest-Zargon is just playing out the scenario in a fairly passive fashion. Descent-Overlord is looking for ways to screw you over.
It may be more confusing because on the surface it looks just like an RPG: there are players and a GM, etc. But the similarity is deceptive. A GM in a roleplaying game is not out to kill the player characters. That’s not the job. The GM is there to present a challenge and make the game fun. The GM isn’t really the enemy, because he wants you to win provided you step up to the challenge. But that new Overlord prick is actually out to get you. He’s not your GM. He wants to wipe out the whole party, and the game gives him _lots_ of budget to do it in ways that are more irritating than challenging. It’s adversarial.
Now that might be your cup of tea, and in fact competitive gaming is the norm in board games and war games just as it is the exception in roleplaying games, so it’s not that Descent is doing anything strange for a board game, it might just be that we’re used to RPGs. But if you sit down to Descent thinking it’s going to be like playing D&D, you better be sure the Overlord is on the same page.
* the board game, not the RPG that came later"
"#4 ben robbins said:
March 17, 2008 at 12:49 pm
We tried playing a game using Descent rules modified to be more like HeroQuest (no threat tokens, no Overlord deck, random traps, no teleporting, etc). The verdict? A lot more fun. Even Zargon seemed to have a better time.
The improvement seemed to be about 50% less Zargon’s a dick and 50% less silliness in the metaphor - dying and then teleporting right back into the fight never seemed to match the adventurer/hero metaphor. The design also seemed to fail to understand players. Players don’t like dying, so making dying & resurrection casual and using conquest tokens as the “real” measure of success grates on the nerves. Dying should be noteworthy.""
Runebound 3E, Rune solo rpg, and now app-less solo HeroQuest?!
This channel is on 🔥 and I'm struggling to keep up with watching everything!!
👍👍👍
Now I just need to get more of my subscribers ACTUALLY WATCHING the videos I make. LOL!
This was cool. I have been using Mitchel Hansinger's solo rules (BGG) which randomizes doors in rooms & corridors, furniture, monsters, etc. I haven't played a whole lot but I did see that I was going to have to figure out how to handle traps. I don't want to mess with a lot of decks of cards at the table but some of the expansions you presented look really good. I guess everyone has to find what works for them with randomization & then streamline it. I would try & streamline it for this game to what feels right.
I checked out the AxianQuest cards and downloaded a couple PDFs. Great side quest!
Great video sir, thank you for all your time into this.. i also just had some Ax-quest cards arrive, and wonderful to hear he`s making a solo deck as well. I played a game with a friend using the app... it does take you away from the board experience.
Yeah - too much movement stuff handled in the app.
I love this video so much. What you've created with your hacks is just about everything I desire in a Dungeon Crawl.
Another Dungeon Dive video on HeroQuest?!! My body is ready
Awesome series, man! Pretty cool that you bought all this stuff with the channel in mind. Next step is a how to play video for each different dungeon crawl game. A truly epic 500 video adventure :P
Hahah! You wish. ;)
Fantastic, exactly what I was looking for. However, I am sad because a few days ago I pulled out my original HeroQuest box and took inventory. I discovered I'm missing one treasure card and one battle die. The warrior sword is broken, but amazingly the tip was still in the box. I'm a bit heartbroken that parts are missing, but maybe it's an opportunity to scour ebay for original replacements or to put the new one on my Christmas list.
I love seeing the house rules people use for HeroQuest! I have so many I could share... but for brevity here is just one I came up with. I think it is quite novel, Movement rolls as Initiative. Roll all the heroes movement at the start of the round, then all miniatures act from high to low, monsters use their static values. Example: The rolls are as follows, Barbarian 6 (rolling only 1 dice due to Plate Mail), Dwarf 8, Elf 4, Wizard 11. Then the round goes as follows: Wizard (11), Goblins (10), Dwarf (8), Chaos Warriors (7), Barbarian (6), Skeletons (6, heroes win ties), Elf (4). On another note, you should add some Chaos Dwarfs for HeroQuest, I believe you have some miniatures someone sent you... ;)
That’s a great rule! And yes I do. :). I really like that.
Great video on creating solo/advanced play! Got to go rewatch parts 1 & 2 of this.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Those axian decks look awesome. thanks for showcasing those!
They’re great!
Spot on with the solo content lately, especially HeroQuest. Didn't know about the app, or those AxianQuest cards. Always learn something new watching a Dungeon Dive video.
Glad to help!
Also, 99% of everything I cover is from the solo perspective.
Dude I so love your videos. Such genuine excitement and care you put into these. Thanks for putting these together!
Glad you enjoy it!
@TheDungeonDive will you be including a solo play through using the points you’ve included here?
No. I don’t do play through videos.
Appreciate this overview! I think it's allowed me to experience HeroQuest vicariously through your videos while realizing I don't need this in my collection. Love your phrase about Restoration Games: design games that feel like the way we remember them, not the way they actually were (or something to that effect). I think that's right on and what companies need to have in mind when revisiting games. We are in a very different place than 20 years ago when it comes to board game design evolution. Although now I need to keep at least any eye on AxianQuest haha.
Great video, thanks! I’ll be getting the Axian cards and solo rules in the future 👍😁
Awesome video have ordered all the cards can't wait for the solo play cards to come out !
Enjoyed the video! Nicely done! ..we chatted before about how fan expansions have added much needed support for some of these older games… watching this I couldn’t help but think that you’re getting closer to AHQ …I created a token pull system too for my AHQ games for solo play and it has added a nice touch. I’d love to see you put this kind of effort into AHQ…. Perhaps your next series?! 😉
I already did a whole big series on AHQ with my house rules. :)
Yes… aware …I am feeling you could re-approach it …or maybe I’d like you to re-approach it 😅…either way can’t go wrong with more AHQ ..😆
Probably some day. :)
Thanks for posting this and great, like you say, to wait on those extras to arrive.
Great video!! I sold my copy a few years ago and there definitely wasn’t so much fan made content back then!
The new Hero quest really reignited the community’s passion on making more contents - although Talisman probably still sits at the throne of games with most fan made content.
I also remember using Ninjadog’s solo rules but found it too tedious after awhile due to the amount of rolling on tables (so many dice roll just for placing doors/ furnitures!)
It felt more like a solo rpg than a board game but without procedure to handle the RP part (need to add your own oracle / systems to handle those situations).
At some point l, it just felt too much for me and that was when I found your WHQ videos.
For me, WHQ was able to solve all these problems so elegantly with just 2 things - event cards / dungeon cards - no house rules needed, no tedious rolling tables (only d6 or d66s), even roleplay rules are included!
It just made me wonder if it is worth the effort to go the extra miles just to make HQ a less elegant version of WHQ.
One thing I like about HQ is the static board. I always know how much space it's going to take up on the table!
@@MelvLee man I sooooo hate having to forever roll dice after dice on tables just to set up one room! In the upcoming solo deck, there is only 1 table you must consult, and only once, when you set up the board. After that, while you explore, you simply open a door and check the cards. The exact position of the next door is decided by the youngest player.
You only roll a die when you open a door to a corridor. If you roll a skull, a patrol of monsters is the corridor.
Everything else is handled by the cards you put on the rooms.
I have all of the axian quest decks including the brand new one they just released. Great stuff!
❤❤❤ so glad it's here! Thanks!
AxianQuest is awesome! I also use the Skills for my homebrew monster. For instance, I’ve given my orog (or large orc) Mighty Blow, mening that it gets +1 AD if it doesn’t move. That forces the heroes to think.
Thanks for the shout-out for my random dungeons rules - I need to revisit those rules again some time and update them for the new version of HeroQuest. Your points about the doors and missing monster stats are on point, so let me know if you have any other major foibles with them too. And keep these great videos coming! :)
How do you handle traps when you play solo?
@@TheDungeonDive you don't search for traps, they just trigger when you roll them on the various tables - most of them give you an opportunity to avoid them anyway. But I like your idea of saving up a sort of 'previously searched for trap' effect. :)
I look forward to the update once you get the Infinite Dungeon cards from Axian to see if it would replace all the other printed cards and tables. I have downloaded all the stuff you have shared here but similar to your comments regarding the printed cards, I would rather simply purchase the printed deck rather than dedicate precious time crafting cards for a game that, although I do suffer from the nostalgia effect, HQ finds itself perched precariously on the verge of being purged from my collection.
I have it all on the table now, and the new AxianQuest solo cards are AMAZING.
So you have turned it into Altar Quest. I'm kidding but that is the game I was thinking about when you were going through this. Great series, Heroquest is a special game for a lot of people.
Lol! Much faster paced than Altar Quest. :)
Thank you for this video! Regards from Brazil! *
Yeees! Been waiting for this episode! 🎉😂
Cant wait for some dad time latter tonight when the kid is asleep😅
Those cards are interesting, I will probably pick them all up. I noticed that instead of Zargon, the cards call him Zorgan...maybe to avoid copyright issues.
Yes.
Thx for the vidéo ! Avalon Hill should sell an official deck of level up abilities for the characters. I have donne mine but not for all the heroes.
The AxianQuest cards really cover most bases. Happy with them. Easy to implement as well. Using them along with the XP Cards is a good solution.
I plan to use the board for an easy random dungeon generating system for my dnd game when the party runs off somewhere I didn't expect.
Great video 🙏❤️ Will there be a video of you playing HeroQuest with all your homebrew rules, playing cards, etc.?? 🙏🙏🙏
No. I don't do play through videos. I talk about why here:
ruclips.net/video/ANYrzwn5h_M/видео.htmlsi=hX-Gr41tzKftL3Du
90 minutes of dungeon dive, that some good eating
Enjoy!
Such a great game to play and mod. For escaping monsters zoc you could maybe just move of the two movement dice, so you could always get away to some degree. I haven't played it since I was a kid though, hopefully I will pick up the new retail version soon. Looks like it is really well done.
Wow. Fantastic episode. And a lot of stuff for HeroQuest that I did not know yet, although I am a big fan of the game (Pure nostalgia). I have not bought any of the new stuff from Hasbro, because I own all the old European stuff for the game. And the scale difference between the new and old version is putting me off. So it is really nice with some great "new" unofficial stuff I can use for the game. Thanks.
I am ok with Hasbro not updating the game a little to make it a bit more modern, and keeping it close to the original. Also because of the upcoming Dungeon Saga Origins from Mantic, witch I backed on KS. After reading the draft rules for the game that they provided for the KS, it was pretty obvious to me that Mantic was trying to make a modern HeroQuest. Keeping a few of the best parts of the original Dungeon Saga, then mixing it with the best parts of HeroQuest and making the game more simple, while addressing the biggest issues of both games. So I am really looking forward to that game as well.
Sounds quite good. Did they get rid of e.g. the race/time mechanic in Origins or ? 🙂
@@Calmethar.
Yes, they did get rid of the race/time mechanic. It is not part of the main game mechanic anymore. But maybe there are still some single quests that uses a race/time mechanic some way? I have not seen all the content.
You can still find the draft rulebook for Origins, if you search for "Dungeon saga origin rulebook" on Google. It is a good read with some really nice ideas.
Origins is a completely new game. I think it feels more closer to HeroQuest now, than the original Dungeon Saga. At least that is my takeaway after looking at the rules and some gameplay content.
The only thing they kept from Dungeon Saga was the combat system (Opposed rolls, importance of facing, Brake away from monsters etc.) and the setting. Everything else is new and much closer to HeroQuest now.
Some major key differences to Dungeon Saga:
Movement and actions are now more flexible and easy. You can move and attack and vice versa. The order doesn't matter anymore. You can also move past your friendly hero. No more blocking each others move.
You can now search for treasure and secret doors in mostly the same way as in HeroQuest. There is a exploration deck similar to the treasure deck in HeroQuest.
Spells are now "cast one time" cards just like in HeroQuest.
The board tiles are now bigger modules that can be put together very fast. It is more similar to HeroQuest, were you do not use any room on the board in a single quest.
The solo/co-op mode has been designed doing the game development and is a important feature of the game now. It has not been attached on in a weird broken manner like with the original DS. Mantic is developing a solo/co-op app for the game, that is requiring minimal player interaction.
Mantic has also added a bit more character development compared to HeroQuest. All Hero's have some individual skills and get a bit of XP for completing quests that can be used to buy heroic boons between quests.
Overall DS Origins just feels slightly more advanced than HeroQuest. Adding a bit more tactical combat, more interesting decisions doing gameplay and more character development.
@@AndreasRugtvedNeumann Thank you very much for that detailed explanation, Andreas, very much appreciated.
It really sounds like they stepped the game up. Sounds quite good indeed ☺
Not sure about Beastmen, but stats for a White Seer and other Skaven (and trolls and ogres) are present in White Dwarf 134 and 145 as part of the additional quests they printed for HeroQuest. PDFs are readily available online.
Sorry carried on watching and see you show this 😂
Yeah. Really boring stats! Just numbers. One of my main criticisms I address in this. :)
Didnt know you were 50, what a handsome adventurer!
Well actually, 49 but close enough. :)
That's a lot of content. Have to get my Old HQ from the shelf ones more.😊
What about the Monsters?
Is there also upgrades for Monsters?
With all those Hero content the Heroes become very OP'd i think.😅
Great video, keep on going!
after a couple of games of using the app, I figured it was easier to just not use the board and used the app to keep track of the characters where they moved and had dice and cards on the side. Heck, other than the treasure deck I could probably avoid using the cards too...
Yep. That's why I don't use the app.
Let's see a playthough
ruclips.net/video/ANYrzwn5h_M/видео.htmlsi=3kjgCN7Vi_VZ_pQN
Also, having fun is very underrated these days.
I’ll definitely look into the Axianquest cards, especially the SOLO ones due out soon. Hopefully they’re easy to get in the UK.
I noticed Zargon is spelt Zorgan on the Events cover card you read out. Is that intentional to avoid copyright issues do you know?
That’s what I was thinking.
Hey there!
Zorgan instead of Zargon is intentional (even though as far as I know "Zargon" is not a trademark, I decided to stay away from that).
DTRPG ships to UK, but shipping IS expensive, probably even more than it is to Italy (where I live). For all non-US heroquest fans, we have a big "catch-up" bundle coming, with all 7 decks together: the 6 shown in the video, plus the upcoming Infinite Dungeon deck. The bundle will be available as soon as ID is ready to be released: hoping for end of September/early October.
Thanks for the clarification. :)
@@user-pw2wq2rf4pthanks for the info!
I know it isn't shown in this video, but didn't want to look through the other ones. Where do you get your card sorting trays that you have when you play solo.
Amazon. Hold It.
How can you possibly play all those card simultaneously and also can they be added to the expansion packs? Thanks
I don't understand the question.
@@TheDungeonDive it's OK I didn't understand how you play all the cards. The Axium cards. How do you decide which cards to use and what turn to use them in. Also are they compatible with the expansion packs?
There are rules included with the cards that tell how to play them. Yes, you can use them with the expansions packs.
@@TheDungeonDive thank you
Hey Daniel, I’m back here after picking up HQ from Amazon for $66 (thanks for the heads up!) Would it be possible for you to kind of sum up this video in terms of what you think is the most streamlined collection of materials that you use for solo for your patrons?
All the AxianQuest cards.
Hi Dungeon Dive. So for someone who didn’t play this game in the past do you recommend buying this game for solo only?
The main reason I’m attracted to this game is because I like simplicity, tried many different dungeon crawlers and many times I find them a chore to play with all the different card decks and never ending tokens. Also because English is a second language I don’t like reading rulebooks, I don’t have a problem learning complex games but for me sometimes it take me days to read them, that’s why I love Fantasy Flight their rulebooks are great to read and this game attracts me since it’s an easy game to get back on the table after taking breaks from it.
I don’t like using APPs in my board games so I’m having hard time deciding about this game, I know there’s a lot of fan made content for the game and few expansions but not sure if they are usable with those cards variant you show in this video.
Basically I’m looking for a simple game that has some sort of a campaign that keeps me busy for a long time. Also if I get this game I will get those cards from drive through but are there other solo variants that you recommend without the app?
I just finished watching this video and the first one, will watch the second HQ video you made tomorrow!.
As I said in this video, I have zero nostalgia for HQ, and never played it in the past, and I like it for solo play with a bunch of the fan made supplements. This whole video mentions tons of things I use for solo without the app. As a matter of fact, the first pinned comment contains links to everything!
@@TheDungeonDive Oh I missed the pinned comment, thanks for sharing those links I will take a look later today :) Thank you for taking the time to answer my question seems I'm going to have to order this game :D
Any chance you will do a Customizing Heroquest video for playing with more than 5 players?
No. I only play solo.
@@TheDungeonDive OK. Thanks for reply. :)
when you enter a room how do you decide how many monsters and where they should be? 🙏
As of that video, just winging it. Still working on my custom bestiary for DD Patrons.
I find the app frustrating as twice now on my ipad it has crashed halfway through the game which basically ends it.
I’ve have better success with my phone but the downside is, small screen.
I also grew up on D&D, early Warhammer and Middle Earth role playing (MERP).
One of my cousins was also into RPG’s. I can still remember when he introduced me to MERP and Traveller back in the 1980’s.
MERP had great critical miss tables.
Now that you have Infinite Dungeons, do you still use any elements from this video, besides the Axian cards?
I will, at certain points, just to have more variety. I probably won't ever use the large stacks of treasure cards I printed out. But I keep them in the HQ box just in case.
Thanks for the reply.
However, it appears HmmmNessQuest no longer exists.
The Bestiary will definitely come in handy.
@@leestone6349 Another good reason why I am loath to post links to stuff. People often complain when I don't post links (I don't because it's not my role to help people Google or shop), and then when I do things go dead.
Has anyone got a link to Heroquest Roleplay book? I can't find it at all
I tried a few weeks ago and could not find it at all...normally I good at hunting things down
@@asowle Same here. No sign of it.
There is a PDF of the HeroQuest Roleplay Book in the files section of the Dungeon Dive FB Group
facebook.com/groups/2571172249675057
38:10 what if you printed the cards on sticker paper then just put them on the blank cards?
There are many options to make cards! I always choose what's easiest for me.
With a title like that, instaclick.
I dont like the app. The tediously having to place the exact movement of every character is awful. Really looking for some good solo rules to be able to play this with my son
You're in luck, because I cover a ton of them in this episode, and the next episode!
ruclips.net/p/PLKewgRd8Eir99jpIRBXA2i89eZ3Rq9emU&si=ZN1as8M8r9DkG3In
These Axianquest cards seem like the way to go! @@TheDungeonDive