First Time Reaction to "Welcome to Wrexham" Season 3 Episode 8 - Down to the Wire
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- Опубликовано: 14 июн 2024
- In this video we will be watching "Welcome to Wrexham" Season 3 Episode 8 - Down to the Wire. Wrexham AFC's poor away form casts doubt on their chances for promotion, and as the end of the season nears, Rob McElhenney and Ryan Reynolds face some very tough decisions.
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Another awesome season. Can't wait to see just how far Wrexham can go. Thanks for watching with us. Until next season, COYR!!!!
Can't wait!
Like in the first Promotion When Mark Griffths says Ryan Reynolds Rob From all Wrexham Fans THNK YOU
Just to clarify for Danyelle, the Premier League only dates back to 1992 - before that the Football League was 4 divisions (since 1958) rather than the 3 it has now, since the old First Division broke off to form the PL.
The nice thing about being back in League One (third tier) is that it means the club is back where it was before all the financial shenanigans started in the 1990s (and if you look at the overall history of Wrexham since it first joined the League in 1921 they’ve been in the 3rd tier longer than any other (about 46 years, I think) - they’ve never been higher than the 2nd tier, what’s now the Championship, where they spent a total of about 10 years between the late 70s and early 00s).
Since the end of the season, Ben Tozer has signed for Forest Green Rovers, so he’ll be playing in the National League next season; Aaron Hayden has signed for Carlisle United, which will be playing in League Two next year having just been relegated from League One (this is the club he moved to Wrexham from, 3 years ago). Still no news about Arthur Okonkwo, though there were some hopeful rumours last week…
Rob and Ryan have speculated about eventually increasing the capacity of the Cae Ras to 55,000. Personally I think they’re being rather optimistic - the biggest crowd there’s ever been was 34,455, against Manchester United in the FA Cup in 1957! 55,000 would be the 12th-largest football stadium in the whole country!
Yes, Cardiff is the capital, it has 2 clubs in the Adran Premier - Cardiff City, and Cardiff Met (that’s Cardiff Metropolitan University). For info, the Adran Premier was created in 2009, and since then it’s been won 3 times by Cardiff City, and 6 times each by Cardiff Met and Swansea City. No other team has ever won the Adran Premier (yet). The Adran Premier is currently rated 42nd in UEFA’s country coefficient rankings of womens’ leagues, equal with Luxembourg and just ahead of Latvia.
Thanks Arwelp
Actually Wrexham have only ever spent 4 years in the second tier between 1978 and 1982, which is the.highest.we've ever.been.
If you ever get confused by the names of the divisions, remember that the Football League ran the top 4 tiers and they were called division 1, 2, 3 and 4.
The top division broke away and formed the Premier League in 1992 for more lucrative TV contracts so the Football League just applied to tiers 2-4, where division 2 became division 1, division 3 became division 2 and division 4 became division 3.
The rebranding of the leagues as the Championship,.League One and League Two came about in 2004 when the Football League got new sponsors.
@@marblwrexbro458 Yes, I think you’re right - I got confused by the chaotic naming of the divisions in the 1990s!
I know you lot have said no spoilers, but I feel I can say now. Jacob Mendy had to get surgery on his hamstring and whilst he is coming along nicely in his recovery, he is going to miss the start of next season.
Edit: All of the footage in Philly was filmed at the start of the season when we played Philadelphia Union in preseason friendlies. The documentary skips around a lot in the season for dramatic license purposes.
That's too bad. I hope he recovers fully.
Good to know. Love Mendy.
Just to clarify the Women’s Welsh cup is a competition separate from the league. It’s a straight knockout competition involving women’s teams from all levels that compete in the Welsh football pyramid. Wrexham’s men used to compete in the men’s equivalent, as well as all the ones they’re in involved in the English league system and if you won it you used to qualified for the European Cup Winners’ Cup but since UEFA started only letting teams from their domestic league who won that into Europe since 1996, we’ve had to sacrifice that.
One match I’m surprised wasn’t included was when we beat Crawley Town at home 4-1 after the Colchester game but before Forest Green. Crawley had the best away record at the time and had recently beaten Mansfield 4-1 who finished 3rd. Crawley would later win the playoffs but we put in one of our best performances of the season.
Notts County finished 14th in the table in the end. They started well, then they lost their manager Luke Williams to Championship club Swansea, their form took a slump and they dropped into mid table where they would remain until the end of the season.
Thanks for sharing all the details with us.
Also, the show didn’t show the womens’ 13-0 away win in the Cup against Pwllheli last… October, was it? Admittedly Pwllheli were two divisions lower than Wrexham, but that’s cup football for you!
I'm not so sure losing their manager made that much of a difference for Notts County. While they tied with Wrexham for 3rd most goals in the season, they also had the worst defense in the league. They conceded 47 goals in the first 26 matches before Luke Williams left for Swansea - 1.81 goals per match. In the final 20 matches post-Williams, they gave up 39 goals - 1.95 goals per match. By comparison, Wrexham conceded 1.38 goals per match in their first 26 but only 0.8 goals per match in their final 20.
Thank you for a great reaction video - again. I like you both. The antipathy thing towards Wrexham is normal in football. It's also true that any club that had the money would buy better players. However, the “pool” of really financially strong investors is -. or better: sponsors - is very limited. Until a team plays in the top league. So for Wrexham it’s the Premier League. Only then could “Oil Money” come. Other examples of unpopularity due to sponsors that are too powerful: Red Bull (Salzburg and Leipzig), Man City, Arsenal, Paris Saint Germain, Chelsea (during the Abramovich era) and many more. But as we have learned from football history, a lot of money does not guarantee a successful team.
15:40, yeah that pitch was super rough that day. They actually had to reduce the dimensions of the playing field and put all that sand on there due to the weather.
That's wild
@@TouchyReactionsI still blame that pitch on Jacob Mendy’s hamstring injury. The conditions at Colchester were atrocious.
In League One, the top two teams go up automatically and then the teams in third to sixth contest the playoffs for the third promotion spot. However, four teams get relegated from League One compared to just two from League Two, so it is a tough league to be in! There are some teams in League One that have been in the Premier League within the last ten years or so, so Wrexham will have a lot of big games to look forward to next season!
Yikes, that's a tough league
@@TouchyReactions I would argue that it is maybe the 2nd toughest league to get out of after the National League. Many people would claim the Championship is, but the financial rules are easier to game in order to throw money at promotion in that league. As the OP said, it is harder to get promoted from League 1 (2 automatic and 1 playoff spot) and easier to get relegated with the 4 relegation spots. Thankfully now that Wrexham has become a somewhat global phenomenon they have been able to increase revenues. In League 1 a team is only allowed to spend up to 60% of their revenues on salaries for players. This means Wrexham is well suited to be at the upper end of the table regarding financial resources.
@@brianeleighton thanks for sharing all this great information 👍
@@brianeleighton I would actually argue that the Championship is the next hardest league to win promotion from after the National League. If we get there, not only will the majority of clubs have bigger crowds than us but we’ll also be competing with clubs recently relegated from the Premier League with some very generous parachute payments which gives them a financial advantage and hence why it’s common for them to go straight back up, However, there have been clubs similar size to us that have played in the Premier League. Current clubs Bournemouth and Brentford are good examples. Other clubs have included Wigan, Burnley, Blackpool, Swansea etc so it’s a tall order but not impossible. Investment and recruitment has to be spot on, like it generally has been since the takeover.
@@marblwrexbro458 I agree that the next two leagues will be the hardest, but FFP is a much easier system to game than the EFL's profit and sustainability rules. If the club wanted to, once we get promoted to the Championship we could just buy our way out in the hope that we make it to the Prem. There is no real limit on how much money the club can spend in a season. The problem with that strategy is if we DON'T get promotion in under 3 seasons we will run afoul of FFP. In League 1 next season our wage bill will still be tied to our revenues and we will be competing against some really big clubs like you said. Until we get the Kop sorted we will be limited in how much revenues we can get on match days. This means the likes of Bolton and Birmingham will have an inbuilt advantage next season.
You are all caught up on the Wrexham journey, the league 1 campaign doesn't start till August, I'm pretty sure there is a way to watch that campaign live as it unfolds.
Thanks 😊
I’m still shocked they skipped the Derby game against Crewe that was between FGR and Stockport. A super important match which we played amazingly and won.
Who was in the Derby match again?
I'm not following.
@@TouchyReactions so after we clinched promotion we played Crewe Alexandra, another local Derby. Was an amazing game. Previously in the Season we played to a 3-3 draw. Away we won 3-0. We then went on to play Stockport. So we finished the League 2 journey in 2nd.
The scenes in Philly were filmed last summer when Wrexham played against Philadelphia Union for their summer tour in 2023.
Next season in league 1 is gonna be fun but really challenging. There are many teams which are much richer and bigger than Wrexham/Rob Ryan, with stadiums 2-3x as big and premier league experience. One of them, Birmingham city, is even owned by Tom Brady, so that’s going to be the big game of the season next year. The good news is Rob and Ryan have already brought in some investors to have minority ownership of the team, like actress Eva Longoria.
It’s sad seeing some of those players go. Luke Young has been called the people’s captain because he’s actually been on the team and been its continuous captain since before Rob and Ryan even took over. Rob Lainton was also there before Rob and Ryan, and was a top level keeper but battled injuries a lot. Players like Captain Ben Tozer and Aaron Hayden were one of the first players bought by Ryan and Rob, so they’ve been here a while. Aaron Hayden leaving hurts because he was called one of the best players on the team when he played, and the best defender in the league, but he was ALWAYS hurt (played only around 30% of each season). The longest standing players now are Jordan Davies, who was here before Rob and Ryan and grew up in Wrexham (and was the one who brought his daughter to the promotion parade) and max cleworth, the young player who scored his 1st goal this episode. He came through the Wrexham youth academy and Many consider him to be the future captain and the most valuable player on the team. Arthur is a free agent now and last week Rob said they are talking to him and there is a good chance he comes back
Notts county really fell off at the end of the season and finished lower middle of the league, but not relegated.
Thx for all that good info.
Glad to hear the owners are getting more investors.
Luke Young was here before the takeover but he wasn't the Captain yet. The Captain during the takeover was Shaun Pearson. Luke was named Captain for the 1st full season under Rob and Ryan after the takeover.
Edit: That being said, even before he was Captain we got the famous "I love Luke Young" quote from Dean 😂😂
Since you lot are completely caught up, I figured you would like to hear the good news. Arthur Okonkwo has just signed a permanent contract with Wrexham for the next 3 seasons. This means he will be our #1 Goalkeeper for at least 3 more years 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Outstanding. Thanks for the update.
We know you're not miserable Danielle :) My Dad is in this episode very briefly, my eyes nearly popped out
Oh awesome. During the celebration?
Very Cool!!
Great season guys, really enjoyed it... until next season👍.. Up the Town !
(in League One the top two are automatically promoted; next four do play-offs, with the winner getting the third promotion spot. The bottom four are relegated.)
Thanks for the info!
Good to know.
There are a few knock out cup competitions running throughout the season alongside the main league matches, 3 in total across the leagues for the men, and league 1 and 2 teams are eligible to play in all 3 cups, they are the FA Cup, The League Cup (aka Carabao Cup) and The League Trophy (aka Bristol Street Motors Trophy), so it can get quite busy for lower league teams if they have decent cup runs, as you'll remember Wrexham had a good run in the FA Cup in the 22-23 season when they were eventually knocked out by Sheffield Utd who have just been related from the Premier League after a truly awful season. Wrexham famously knocked Arsenal out of the FA Cup in 1992 which was a major upset at the time, highlight of the match are on RUclips, Mickey Thomas who scored the stunning equalising freekick grew up in my village near Colwyn Bay. Wrexham Women's team were playing in the FAW Women's Cup Final which is the Welsh FA's own version of the FA Cup just for Welsh teams.
Thanks so much for your reactions! I really enjoyed them! Now you are all caught up with real time. Anything you look up will not be a spoiler. The pre-season friendlies in July will probably be shown on ESPN+ (they were last year.) If you want to watch and/or follow along with next season's games, I personally don't think it takes away from enjoying the documentary. In fact, I think it enhances it! But that's just my opinion. Thanks again!
Thanks for the tips! We'll look for them.
since we had an intro to McClean last episode and he was one our better players last season, here is short clip which is him in a nutshell, 2nd to last game: ruclips.net/video/WjMSHImU694/видео.html - also a good celebration video - ruclips.net/video/CaZYWZzqJ6Q/видео.html
Thanks Paul
FROM THE sky sports league one: Promotion: 1st, 2nd
Play Off: 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th
Relegation: 21st, 22nd, 23rd, 24th
Thanks for the help 🙂
I love this series on your Wxm reactions, and I have to admit, I thought you were BS'ing that you didn't know how things end up. But, I'm beginning to think you actually don't (didn't) ....Also, I love that you both now know, most of the central characters that always seem to appear (with more, no doubt YET to come).
BUT...expect a bit of a stall on our progression as we 'stablise' in L1 (whilst getting all the other 'necessities' like a perm training facility and all the other infra structure elements needed to become an 'established' EFL club).......Watch this space!
Having been a Wrexham fan for over 50yrs....I still find the fact, that people from all parts of the 'WORLD' ...(not just the US) have even _heard_ of the name of 'Wrexham' - let alone have an interest in the team!
I remember being on the Zoom call to us fans, with them both pitching on their 'vision for the future' for the club, and of us being a 'Global' brand/name...and thinking....WTF! 🙄🙄
(Unless you've been a Wxm fan for more than 3-4yrs...you just will not realise just how absurd that statement sounded....and yet, here we are!!)
Thank you so much for sharing this with us. We love taking this journey will everyone.
We make an effort not to get any spoilers. For me half the fun is NOT knowing how things are gna turn out. Thanks for watching. Until next time, COYR!!!
League One is a different animal getting promoted is likely probable next season, but it will hard and when they do get promoted, they will be in probably the hardest league in the EFL. This is the EFL Championship and getting promoted from Championship to enter the Premier League is a whole different animal.
We're talking about big money teams now, some of the teams will have been recently relegated from Premier League. Some of the teams have been stuck in the EFL Championship for a decade. If we go by football world rankings the EFL Championship is ranked in 10th or 11th place it doesn't sound like much for a tier 2 football league. however every other league that's ranked above EFL Championship are other countries tier 1 football league.
It's getting serious now.
@@TouchyReactions Significantly more serious, the money Rob and Ryan have is becomes more common at League 1. There is basically a level of parity of spending money amongst the clubs/teams.
The Championship is a whole different level for spending money and the Premier League is a basically unlimited.
@@TheHabsification I cant wait to see how this is all gna unfold.
@@danyellfeeley5822 Next season Wrexham have to be tight and clean any mistakes can bite them in the arse.
Birmingham City has been relegated to League 1 and Tom brady has part ownership of Birmingham City. All betting companies are predicting them to go straight back up to Championship.
Wrexham are also predicted to be promoted as well by betting companies.
League 1. 2 promoted automatically, I via the playoffs
Thanks David 😊
there are 3 divisions in american soccer , my english team huddersfield are owned by an american who owns a second division soccer team sacramento republic in the states .
Thanks for the help 🙂
They are all closed leagues though. Great for owners, shit for fans.
So enjoyed your reactions to WTW. See you next season.
Thank you so much 💓 💗
they will win league one again and get promoted the real test starts in the next one after that cause the championship is a different class closer to the premier league
I hope you are right.
We won't win League 1, playoffs if things go well
To sum up the win over Forest Green Rovers. They were only marginally behind us for expenditure for the Season. We spent big. They Spent big. The difference was night and day.
If you can get here guys. I’ll get the tickets. Shout me.
Awesome thanks 😊
@@TouchyReactions I’m gonna join the Patreon so we can make arrangements you book the flights I’ll get the tickets.
@MadAl37 is not necessary. We won't be able to travel till late next year.
This is a weird question but in the first Season of W2W did our US friends need the subtitles for the locals?
A little bit. Some of those accents were strong.
@@TouchyReactions James McClean and Steven Fletcher were hard to understand for me. The local guys though sound like me I guess. Ha.