10 Episodes That Should Have Changed Star Trek Forever - But Didn't
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The transporters can do an insane amount of universe breaking things. Cloning, fusing, dimensional travel, de-aging, Hiding in the pattern buffer for decades. You can and should just make a top 10 list of all the insane shit the transporter does
It's also the greatest weapon ever constructed. Why are we bothering with what are essentially guns when we can just make people disappear?
you could prolly to a top 20 of that topic
It kills you and reassembles you somewhere else, but you die every time you use it.
That's a good one.
@@kurtlindner Yes this. Now I dont remember, but It was either Pulaski or Broccoli that basically said this
@@jayt4697 Oh no the borg are attacking the ship, quick beam them into space.
I've always said the transporter is the greatest piece of medical technology ever created but they use it as a bus instead.
The board game Star Fleet Battles used them a little bit more. If your ship gets its shields taken down, you can beam out mines to place around enemy ships, for instance. You still couldn't simply beam out the warp core controls if both ships had their shields down, though.
I drive a modified MRI machine to work, its no big deal
But it kills a person and makes a copy. That copy might think it's the original, but so what?
the ability to molecularly restructure damaged organs alone would be amazing.
You could have a C-section while discussing whether or not you need a C-section. Gallstones would be grown on purpose for amusement to win bets on size and shape. Kidney transplants - well, nvm; they have a pill for that that only takes seconds.
Surprised they didn't include TNG The Chase, where we find out all races were created by a single ancient race, then it's never brought up again.
Fun fact: The ancient alien is played by the same actress who portrayed the Female Changeling on DS9.
@@antney7745 Salome Jens, yep
yeah that episode was very underwhelming. A long lost race leaves a message that answers fundamental questions of life while creating new ones like "how did they come about then?" but it's dropped with folks not like the fact that they are all related. Realistically it would be like how the discovery of ancient hominid remains has had on our collective culture and academia on the understanding of our origins.
@@RoninDave Care to clarify your last sentence? Sounds interesting.
yeah, that would be a pretty big thing to discover, but no, they all just went on afttwerwards like it was just another day at work. The Klingons, cardassians and the Romulans and all... It juist turned into racist rant, and then nothing
The one I always think about is in "A Piece of the Action", where the Enterprise uses the ship's phasers to stun a city block on the planet. Which could have come in handy in numerous hostage situations afterward. Stun everyone then send an away team to disarm everyone and free the hostages.
In a way it’s actually mentioned again. In voyagers “the 37’s”. When chacotay is pinned down in the firefight he called on B’Lana to give cover fire with the ships phasers. But because the targeting sensors are out of alinement she can’t.
Yeah, using the phasers' wide beam stun setting would be a great tool to have whenever there's a protest or an opportunity to re-do the Iran Hostage crisis between '79 and '81. Use those phasers to put all the protesters to sleep and then beam up the occupants of the building(s) under siege. Both 2012's Bengazi embassy and the American Embassy in Beirut Marine Guard unit of 241 Marines killed in '84 if phasers could have been used to prevent those events from happening. The lives taken in those incidents could have been saved by that weapon applied for good reasons.
Kirk even said use wide beam setting
This is what sprung to mind for me
They’re also unusually specific in their targeting. If I recall correctly Kirk basically says “Scotty stun everybody on the block…except for the building we’re in!”
Anyway,that’s also what I thought of when wide bean phasers came up.
I always thought the storyline of warp drive damaging space was a topic they just kind of left out there, and never really addressed.
that's the one that jumped into my mind too. yea, voyager had the nascelle thing but it was all conveniently forgotten about
They kinda glossed over it with the new nestles and then the new classes of wrap drives
It was a stand in for global warming and fossil fuels, so obviously most of starfleet thought it was fake news
@@derekscanlan4641 Actually, that's the episode that almost made TNG "jump the shark".
They even introduce a maximum speed limit of warp 5 STTNG Force of Nature.
I feel like nearly half of every Star Trek episode could apply to this list. Nutational shields to fly into a star, the transporter accident that duplicated riker, the transporter accident that de-aged 4 crew members in tng, discovering advanced alien technology with the promise of studying it later, like the Dyson sphere, the planet eating ship, wesleys experimental nanites that gained sentience, etc. every other week it’s something groundbreaking that never makes an impact.
My main problem with Star Trek is the producers' tendency toward plot convenience. I first noticed this when any time the Enterprise is at the Neutral Zone, sometimes it can take weeks for communications to reach Star Fleet headquarters, while other episodes have the Enterprise crew utilizing instant communications with Star Fleet. And let us not list all of the plot inconsistencies that are rampant across the whole franchise.
There is this law in stories, no matter how good or bad they are, and try as they might.
"Do not let logic and facts get in the way of a story"
@@AdmiralBison LOL
First rule of “Threshold “ is never talking about “Threshold”
You just spoke about it! Idiot!
But…. But…. I’m one of the few people who actually liked it… go on, hate me but your hate for me liking it will never outweigh your hate for the episode :P
Shame, because it's the episode where the actor Tom Paris really gets to show his talent the most.
What happens in Threshold STAYS in Threshold.
The 3 ST series of the 80's - 90's each had their own unmentionable episodes. TNG had "Cost Of Living", DS9 had "Move Along Home, and "Threshold" is definitely on of Voyager's.
I love all three series, but we all know to give certain episodes a hard pass.
TOS "Wink of an eye" when Spock takes the formula that accelerates him to super speed and performs all repairs on the Enterprise within seconds
It's episodes like that which I think a cagey writer could brush aside by saying something like, oh, yes, it was useful then, but there were long-term side effects from chronic usage.
@@glenhill9884
Or too risky to be consistently reliable.
Why didn't they use
the formula
to slow people down
on the Scalosians?
holy shit I forgot spock became the flash.
@@lazyyoutubename3468 brilliant comparison!
In a TNG episode, terrorists were using a special kind of transporter tech that allowed them to go through shields by way of another dimension. Starfleet said the tech was 'useless' because it damaged human DNA. But tech like that would make a great weapon as you could transport torpedoes inside of enemy ships.
If it damaged human DNA, it's also possible it could change the chemical structure of the warhead and you'd end up with either a dummy or an unpredictable bomb
In TNG, you could even transport a bullet between bulkheads so it materialized where it was wanted, assassinating its target.
@@jeffyoung60 that was ds9 and inside the shields, not through them
The Higher Ground
well in ST voyager one Alien race use kind a variation of that tech. there torpedos have a little time machine inside that allow the torpedos to past most shields.
"Slimy fish sex with the captain."
Kirk: "I've had worse."
Then there was the episode where they found a Dyson Sphere. This would have something in the range of 500 million times the area of Earth, and gather the energy from an entire star. The tech level of a Dyson sphere is massively beyond anything even remotely conceivable for Star Trek.
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"This Side of Paradise" TOS ; exposure to the spores gives people perfect health and regenerates organs. This could have been used many times on trek. All you need to do is get the person really angry to break the spell of the spores, after they have recovered from whatever affliction they were suffering.
First you cure them then you give them the bill. It all works out.
I think the Feds did figure this one out on a small scale because McCoy in I think the Voyage Home gives a woman a pill and regrows her kidneys and has better health than ever.
If you thought Threshold was awkward, just imagine when Tom and B'lanna have to explain Miral's salamander half siblings.
" What are little girls made of" android plot led up to the law that an android can not duplicate another android.
Remember the Data's daughter episode?.
The family reunion fish fry has been cancelled due to tragic circumstances.
They said it might be interesting to come back and see what happened to those salamander offspring, but they dropped the plot thread, probably because it was so wacky. I guess you'd have giant salamander critters lumbering around. -- And they reminded me of an old Outer Limits episode with a similar prehistoric beast which unconvincingly lumbers around, supposedly menacing people. Even though anyone could easily outrun the thing. LOL. But yeah, your half-brother / half-sister / half-salamander relative...that's gotta be hard to deal with.
I am still wondering if the baby salamanders could have been turned into human babies by the doctor
Those amphibious offsprings would have had no parent to raise them in an ecology to which they had not evolved. The most likely consequence is that they would've died. Of course, there's also the chance that without a natural predator, they became an invasive species that reproduced uncontrollably not just a few half siblings but billions of nephews and nieces.
This video certainly shows how plot convenience can get out of hand.
In “The Nth Degree”, Barclay’s newly acquired super intelligence allows him to beef up the shields 300%, create a neural interface with the ship’s computer, and create a subspace inversion that allows the Enterprise to travel faster than warp, and they’re never able to duplicate these things or mention them ever again.
The original series episode with those androids "What are little girls made of" was totally ahead of it's time in my opinion.
Yes, and too much. They didn't care about canon and a "cinematic universe" back then, which they started doing in the TNG era.
warp 10 sounds like an infinite improbability drive. they just needed their towels
No ones enough of a hoopy frood though except riker
If warp 10 was the threshold just stop at 9.9 or 9.8 as a safety buffer.
they didn't have a cup of coffee/tea
I just liked this comment, but that changed the number of likes from 42 to 43. Sorry!
@@tadhgmcelligott3693 What about Wesley?
It's just a joke. C'mon I was only kidding. Please don't hurt me.
#1. Spock coming back to life from the 'Genesis' planet...
Spock did mention once that he’d been dead before. But yes, more could have been said.
Of course, the big one is TNG's "Second Chances" which, in combination with "Unnatural Selection" basically implies that dead crewmembers can be literally reconstituted from a pattern and a sufficient volume of mass stored in the transporter. Granted, the original crewmember would still be _dead_ ...but you could simply use the transporter to manufacture a living copy, identical down to the quantum level.
Also, while on the Genesis Planet, the New-Body Spock appears as a newborn, then nekkid kid, then a teenage boy entering his first Bon Farr, and it's mighty convenient that Saavik is there to, uh, help him out with that. She then stays behind on Vulcan, presumably to have Spock's baby. -- I was in college when the movie came out and found this, uh, awkward. -- Now I look at it as not the greatest fanfic solution. -- And what if it had been someone other than Saavik? Or no one? That could be a more awkward fanfic...
However, they did try to handle the situation somewhat discreetly, and at the time, I shrugged and thought, "OK, then."
Note that, in the movie and the novelization, McCoy had Spock's "Katra," his consciousness / spirit / soul sharing McCoy's mind in a mind-meld, so the New-Body Spock growing up super-fast was supposed to be somehow a blank slate. This didn't really come across well, although they did explain it and Spock's consciousness had to be rejoined with his body in that fusion ceremony.
It was kind of a reach, but it sort of worked, because everyone wanted Spock back. But on paper, and maybe on screen, how well it came across, I'm not sure, even though I've rewatched the movie series plenty of times now. Let's say, I really wanted Spock back too, so I had a massive suspension of disbelief. Being a college-age late teen probably also helped with the fantasy Spock growing up plot.
That was only possible because his father demanded a highly illogical procedure to be performed... it would work for any Vulcan but they wouldn't want to hear of it.
Also a Vulcan probably couldn't prolong their live indefinitely as they'd still suffer the emotional outbursts that come with old age, not old age of the body but old age of the mind that is.
@@JohnCastleSmokeless Also "Lonely Among Us". Picard is reconstituted from his 'original' pattern before he beams out with the energy being when he's brought back.
Episodes of star trek that could changed star trek but didn't: every episode where they meet almost literal gods!
The reason "Threshold" was never mentioned again is because Janeway was so embarrassed by what happened with Paris that she ordered the entire crew to never speak of it again.
Actually she told Tom that the sex was her idea.
So look, we could go home...like today...but because im to embarssed to have slept with a crewmate, you will spend the rest of your lives on this ship as we limp across teh galaxy. and thats an order"
@@OpticalShadow It's possible that Warp 10 is actually completely useless. Since when Tom used it, he was everywhere in the universe at once, but then ended up right back where he started. Though one would rightly argue that further experimentation is needed in that situation.
For the number one spot I submit (TOS) the episode “I Mudd “. It opens with the Enterprise being captured by an android named Norman and taken to a planet of androids. Wouldn’t you think that Data would have liked to visit such a place or at least mention it even as a passing thought.
this applies to almost any episode featuring an android in the original series. You would think there would at least be a mention somewhere.
The implication as I understood was that those other androids weren't as advanced as he was, but it has always annoyed me they were never mentioned or had the differences explained.
@Steven Bonovitch Good catch!
Yeah pretty much all the androids that appearded in TOS were atleast as advanced as anything Dr Soong made yet he was always treated like he had created something new and super advanced.
But at least there were references to the 'Daystrom Institute.' Somebody remembered M5's daddy...
A couple of others, the one where in TNG they discover that their warp engines are slowly destroying subspace over time and they have to lower their speed limits except for emergencies. Those speed restrictions and the damage to subspace by the warp engines is never mentioned again. Also, Data learns the Vulcan neck pinch by watching Spock when they are on Romulus with Picard. You would think that that would be a handy skill to be able to pinch someone's neck to put them to sleep during conflict and battle situations but Data never uses that skill again.
Voyager & Enterprise E both use experimental new Tech to eliminate the threat of damaging subspace .. Thats actually y Voyagers nacelles fold upwards
The speed limits are mentioned later, though only in the sense that they'd been lifted for a particular mission. I forget which episode it was and whether it was in TNG or DS9, though.
I think Data is literally the only non-Vulcan shown to use the nerve pinch. Without him, it's reasonable to assume, IMO, that it is at least in part dependent on Vulcan telepathic potential/ability. But with him, it's just a skill that should be far more commonly known.
The wearing out of subspace was along a narrow corridor and not in general space. Basically wearing out a carpet with high traffic in a narrow hallway.
@@patrickmccurry1563Odo has used the Nerve pinch too on DSN in season 4.
Also, Rascals, another TNG episode where transporters are shown to reverse ageing but it's never mentioned again.
You'd think the ship's crew could stay young and perfectly healthy forever.
In Rascals they were children, but not necessarily de-aged children. They thought they were also de-aged in addition to being de-growed, but those are two absolutely different things, which progeria disease proves. Their life-o-meters didn't necessarily dial back. They just didn't understand that.
There were two big problems with "Rascals."
The first was the idea that Captain Picard couldn't be captain if he didn't "look captain-y." Crusher certified that he was medically and neurologically OK, but Riker and the rest wouldn't follow his orders because he didn't "look like the captain?" Sorry, kids, but the technical term for that is "mutiny."
And the second was that these four kids acted like children instead of acting like the adults they were. Keiko was MARRIED. She had a child which meant that she'd been intimate with Miles. She may have been in an 11-year-old body, but her mind knew full well the delights of Miles O'Brien. And then she was in a young energetic body with hormones going every which way...
No, I don't think they would have, or should have gone there, and I know that couldn't be shown on TV -- or in any venue in the western world, for that matter. But by "de-aging" a married person with a family, the writers set themselves up for a story that they could not tell. The thing that really burns me is that they knew up front that they could not -- would not be allowed to -- tell that story properly, but they went with it anyway. That should not have happened.
@@Aliandrin "children"? THey were teenagers as I recall. And which if us wouldn't want to go through that again?
There is a tng episode with a cloaked planet. A cloaked planet is a level of advancement but even more amazing is the aliens use a weapon on the enterprise that pushes the ship three days away. At the end of the episode they trade tech with the federation. That repulsor could have ended all conflict in the galaxy.
The Weasel also modified the ship's tractor beam to act as a repulsor in The Naked Now with the tech never being used again. I suppose they probably banned even mentioning it after all the bragging the Weasel likely did afterward.
well the shieled that cloaked the planet and also kind of Tranzphase it, have a sideeffect. all the humanoid Aliens on that world lost there breeding ability. they were steril thanks to that shieled and the plot was that they kidnapped children from the Ship.
@Hari, the tractor beam WAS used as a repulsor beam once more in Cause and Effect when they tried to push the USS Boseman away
No mention of the slingshot-around-the-sun time travel maneuver?
@@80sTeenager it would have been SO useful at Wolf 359
Or just how you can't slingshot faster than orbital velocity. It's not like we can swing a probe around the sun again and again until it shoots off toward Alpha Centauri at a reasonable percentage of light speed. I suppose that's not a super commonly known fact though.
@@patrickmccurry1563 the sling shot effect involved warp speed, C had little to do with it.
The fact that the slingshot effect was used to go back to observe a rocket launch in the 60s and to bring back whales in a movie means it doesn’t make the list.
@@russellharrell2747 It is not a list about things seen only once, hence the wide-beam phaser setting that is seen, then forgotten when it could have been super-useful, then seen again, then forgotten again.
The mere fact that the Slingshot maneuver was so prominent in TOS (used in two episodes, and mentioned in a third) and in the most financially successful Star Trek film of all time (until 2009) only to never be mentioned again ever afterward makes it all the more damning.
Hell, TOS hints that using the maneuver to perform on-site historical study had become a common occurrence (Starfleet had ordered the Enterprise back in time in Assignment: Earth, and not on any super-secret black ops mission either), which should have fundamentally changed the very nature of the show itself for future installments.... but nope, swept under the rug and forgotten.
I remember in rascals thinking, if I was the rapidly aging Picard, being given a free extra 70 years of life is passed up pretty easy. As someone about the same age as Picard in that episode, if someone could wave a magic wand, and make me physically 13 or so now, I would not pass it up.
Oh God, you couldn't pay me enough to be thirteen again
@@jayfredrickson8632 You’re point is well taken. However, most of my issues with. 13 were mental and JLP gets to keep his adult mentality.
He could have accomplished that in Insurrection!
@@hadesdescent6664 Sorry, haven't seen Insurrection. I have successfully avoided it. I did get so desperate for some new Trek recently I rewatched The Motion Picture. Not proud of that. If I could be physically 13 again and the world would still recognize me for who I am, that would be fine. If not, and I could game the system so the world thought I was 13, I would be fine as well. Either way, essentially 40 more years of life.
@@jayfredrickson8632 I would murder most everyone I know for that chance.
Of course, that would have its own consequences.
Hey, another round of Bar Mitzvah gifts!
That damn plant that was the catalyst for creating Tuvix.
They discovered an organic substance that could cause two subjects, and their possessions, to seamlessly and prefectly fuse within a teleportation stream.
The possibilities for plant hybridization alone are staggering.
In TOS "A Piece of the Action", the Enterprise is able to stun an entire city block unconscious from orbit. Handy.
My fave is the one where Pulaski cures ageing and manages to reverse it with the transporter and everyone moves on and forgets it. EDIT: and there it is!
The transporter fixing genetic diseases happened before this episode in TOS and the Animated Series. So... Why they writers tended to forget that the teleporter does this and rediscover it by the end of the episode baffles me.
And still looks old asf
@Leonard Weisfeld I don't remember the titles.... I think they're either season 1 or 2 one has Kirk split into two personalities (in which case the teleporter was both part of the cause and the cure) the other had Kirk, Spock, and McCoy becoming old in a short period of time I think it was this one where they mention something like the teleporter can hold an earlier teleportation pattern in its memory banks or some science babble like that (which was they same method they used to de-age Polasky (?) In the TNG episode) if I remember right a few of the episodes from the first couple seasons we're sort of rehashes of TOS episodes
I think it was also this particular TNG episode that had genetically improved people with amped up immune systems which were so powerful the immune systems became airborne to attack whatever before it even got to the person which caused the whole mess for all the scientists involved. On a side note: I think in DS9 they pull it out of their ass that "oh yeah! Messing with genetics is illegal because of what happened with Khan and his people." Which if that was the case.... Why did this episode or any other episode involving the subject even occur?
@@leperwolf7287 Actually Pulaski had very little to do with it. It was Picard & O'Brien that cured Pulaski. She was just the guinea pig.
The First Federation in TOS (Corbomite Manoeuvre) - never heard from them again.
Well we do hear their drink of choice Tranya is available in Quark's bar which once again proves his point that the Ferengi do more for galactic peace than the Federation could hope to.
I think the so called First Federation was probably just that one ship. And it was all automated and controlled by one little guy, it was all a scam. Which would be appropriate given the nature of the episode.
Or the Horns or the Tholians
@@christopherbacon1077 Tholians get mentioned a lot. We even seen them full body in Enterprise's mirror eps.
While not official cannon The First Federation are mentioned in several novels and comics.
The one that should have changed STARFLEET MEDICAL forever was "THIS SIDE OF PARADISE." Had they saved the plants that shot those spores, they never would have needed a doctor again! Everytime you got sick, you would just stand in front of the spores/get hit with them, and then all your past ailments or missing body parts would grow back, right? Then just make the patient angry, and you would shake off the effects! Perhaps MCCOY destroyed them all in order to have job security?
Good call. I think there was another TOS episode (or two) where someone/something similarly fixed all existing medical problems in people, but I can’t remember it right now…
I wondered about that too. Like Sandival's appendix returning. Would
it have inflamed and had to be removed again after he left the planet?
@@williamhaynes4800 I imagine that would have been the way the writers would have closed that loophole…
The spores interacted with the sunlight in your body
in "Unimatrix Zero, Part 2", Janeway could have asked the Borg rebels at the end of the episode to either put a tractor beam on Voyager and take them back to Earth, or give Voyager a few transwarp modules and they could have done that themselves. A big plot hole.
#4 Wide Beam "Stun" setting. Jem'Hadar are immune to stun and require a full phaser hit to kill. Agree it could have been used elsewhere though.
was thinking the same
You would uses up your power cell to fast, 4 big kill shots vs 40 one shot kills.... we need to get a military perspective on this....which would a ranger take.
They used wide angle stun several times in TOS.
@@edlaprade Yes, specifically in “Return of the Archons” against waves of the mindless villagers controlled by Landru.
For some reason, I always rationalized that it was something maybe custom-built so that the phaser might just get one or two shots in, but yeah, I get a light cone out of my plant’s grow lights-why not come up with one for an energy weapon?
Whenever Trek messes up the storyline I remember the words of Avery Brooks - "It's just a TV show." I calm down, and wait for the next episode.
That is a lame cop out. It's fake, so consistency and good writing don't matter? It's little different than a murder mystery story in which the killer turns out to be a character never mentioned before.
@@patrickmccurry1563 In the era when they were churning out 26 shows a year, it's easier to understand there's some duds and I'm not going to expend energy over slip ups. It is, after all, a tv show meant for entertainment.
@@patrickmccurry1563 it'd be boring if they just used the same solutions over and over again
Ah that explains the entire 7 seasons of Voyager.
Star Trek Voyage "Blink of an Eye", the one where the planet Voyager orbited time moved insanely fast within the atmosphere. That entire civilization evolved pretty much worshiping Voyager and had they just stuck around for another month or two, there's no telling the technological achievements those people would have made and possibly been willing to share.
Share? They were trying destroy Voyager as it's presence came with Earthquakes!
@@WoodysAR a plot stolen from the novels _Dragon's Egg_ and the sequel, _Starquake._ Right down to the inhabitants being prehistoric when discovered, and being far more advanced than humans by the next day.
In Orville they had this Situation too, and guess what. The Fast Time Civilisation has returned now. :-) 50k years more advanced and now a kind of Q.
Good list. The wide beam stun is actually used a couple times in TOS as well, but conveniently "forgotten" when the needs of plot demand more challenge for the characters. That's a frequent factor in Star Trek and in other Sci-Fi as well. Ultimately ships, weapons and sensors are only as effective as the "plot" will allow them to be.
The wide beam was used in the original series when battling Landrew.
It's almost as if the writers didn't ever give a damn about canon and continuity.
For real -and they didn't even include anything from Discovery. lol
I think it's called the reset switch (i.e. after the episode, the reset switch is flicked to before the episode was aired.)
Now that I realize that they never did, I feel a little bad about criticizing Star Trek: Into Darkness for it.
Tends to happen when the lore becomes excessive for writers to learn in a reasonable timeframe. You can't really expect every writer to watch every episode of every Star Trek related series.
That's episodic television for you.
another one i can think of is "conspiracy" from TNG season one. they act like, at the end, that these aliens are going to have some big impact, but you never hear of them again
@Stefano Pavone Let's not forget the Ferengi were also planned as a big bad in their first appearence then ended up almost as comic relief
well it can explain that they kill there queen that breed al the mind parasiedes. the queen and her offspring were only a scout troop.
They themselfe came from another far outside reagion and need decades to reach the Federation ground.
'The City on the Edge of Forever'. The guardian would have been useful in many situations dealing with time.
We see the enterprise go back in time a couple of episodes, all by itself as part of a planned observation mission. The episode with Gary 7 in is an example. I am glad they decided to "forget" that the federation ships could just travel in time like a TARDIS. But it makes the Guardian kind of "meh".
The Guardian is probably too far away in most cases.
3:25 Sherry Jackson was so damn perfect 🥰 she is world breaking!
Amen!
That one TNG episode where they restrict all warp travel to warp 5 or below, mention it once or twice and then forgot about it. Yeah, the Intrepid class has variable warp field geometry, but no other ship has.
I think there is a throw away line in DS9 regrading new classes of wrap engines I always assumed that was the fix since even the enterprise e goes at max wrap all the time
I still remember the first time seeing that episode, and still feel the same way, "Shut up aliens, I can't drive warp 5.5."
There's another throw-away line in a later TNG episode where the speed limit is mentioned, but only in that it was waived for that particular mission. I forget the name of the episode, though.
That was in a narrow corridor of space, not in general space. Like a narrow hallways and large amounts of foot traffic on the carpet. In general space this isn't an issue.
Maybe the new ships run on unleaded antimatter? LOL
"if you think there's any we missed"
This franchise consists almost entirely of these. You listed 10. There are individual episodes that have more than 10 of these. Yes, you "missed" a few.
Give the man credit for putting in the work. I don't believe it was meant to be an exhaustive list.
With the threat of the Borg ever-present, you'd think that someone would find a way to weaponize the Soliton wave projector from the episode New Ground to act as a planetary defense system. Given that it had the potential to shatter planets with just three light-years of travel and be shatter-resistant in its malfunctioned state it would thoroughly decimate a Cube and even if the Cube managed to get an adaptation signal out it could still be effective because as a wave its frequency could be modulated just like phasers. If it could be micronized down to the point of being ship-mounted it could also act as a siege weapon to knock down planetary shields.
In my head-canon, all the super-advanced technologies, such as the Kelvan-modified Warp Drive, or the super-potent substances, such as the Kironide, Starfleet had managed to get their hands on, but later got presumably never re-used, got confiscated by Section 31 and were occasionally utilized only by them until they deem them safe/suitable/appropriate for much wider public use.
Now why has everyone reading this comment section ignored your simple and logical stance on how fiction has mirrored science and politics of our times?
Like the TNG episode "Unnatural Selection" you didn't mention the TNG episode "Rascals" which can revert fully-grown adults back to children, complete with all of their memories. Perpetual immortality at the touch of a button.
Also, the episode "Second Chances" where you can duplicate whole people with some minor jiggery-pokery to the transporter system.
The Guardian of Forever would've been handy during that whole whale probe thing.
How would the whales get through?
(Yes, that is a joke. I know Discovery changed some things, but am unaware how much.)
@@silversonic1 Kirk: "So we can go anywhere in space or time through this gateway?"
Guardian: "Yes. Through me, all is possible."
Kirk: "Can we make the hole bigger?"
Guardian: "No."
@@silversonic1 Use incubated embryos.
Not really, since they had another time travel method. If they wanted to travel back through the Gaurdian, I think they would have to go all the way to its planet to ask it. Why bother?
@@bigneon_glitter Kirk: "Is there...somebody else we can talk to?"
Guardian: "Well...There IS this guy with a blue box that's bigger inside...The door's just regular size, though, so..."
Kirk: "Yeah...Not really helping, there, G..."
Alternate title: Abandoned projects that could have got Voyager home sooner.
They used the transporters to discover immortality in TNG's Rascals, as well. They took out the puberty genes, or something, and would have allowed Picard, at least, to live out a second adolescence as an archaeologist before becoming 'Starfleet's youngest admiral.'
It's "a chance most people only dream of" but they basically understand how to do it, and a repeatable procedure for it.
Not necessary. In fact, the most obvious use of transporters is immortality. If you can broadcast, you can record. If you can record, you can play back. There is basically no excuse for anyone permanently dying in Star Trek. This implies that there is some serious Federation brainwashing going on - Else people would be bringing back deceased loved ones all the time, regardless of any "moral" objections.
One might recall that even McCoy once skirted the notion in TOS, when he questioned what happened to the souls of people who were disassembled and reconstructed by transporters...
In Rascals they were children, but not necessarily de-aged children. They thought they were also de-aged in addition to being de-growed, but those are two absolutely different things, which progeria disease proves. Their life-o-meters didn't necessarily dial back. They just didn't understand that.
Agree on transporters in general, however, @XR40.
@@_XR40_ It's possible that the transporters rely on quantum teleportation, which only lets you make one copy and only if you destroy the original. Though this and any treknobabble to the same effect is countered by the fact that they actually have duplicated people with it. Also, if they were doing quantum teleportation why would they need Heisenberg compensators?
In regards to the holographic waiters in Quark's bar, there is a later episode, "Who mourns for Mourn?" where Quark installs a hologram of Mourn in his seat while Mourn is away, he explains that it is difficult to install a holographic projector in his bar, and even more tricky/expensive to install one that will make an interactive hologram that is more interactive (when people ask why he doesn't talk). So, in that later episode, they did show that it was possible, in theory, to have holograms outside of the holodeck, but I guess it contradicts the Interactive waiter part, unless he felt it was worth the cost for the interactive waiters during the strike, and not worth the cost during Mourn's absence...
I remember that episode, it was good that Mourn was finally quiet for once. Usually he blabbers on forever and nobody can stop him. Really annoying.
The fact that Quark spent money at all for Morn’s memorial speaks so much for itself.
I’ll wait till you get the pun.
Makes not sense that Janeway did not replicate holographic projectors and install in Voyager since the doc could be needed anywhere.
@@olympicnut I agree. They had years of travel ahead, and he is the only doctor aboard, and they had no way to know they would get a 25th century tech based mobile emitter down the line. You would think they would have started to install emitters gradually, so long as the power supply could support them.
In the episode, "The City on the Edge of Forever", the Federation gets a time portal, that can take them to anytime, or place. We never hear of it again. In the books, the time portal is used extensively, but not so much in the series.
Apparently the first draft of Yesterday's Enterprise would have involved the Guardian of Forever.
Apparently someone has not watched The Animated Series... or Discovery, for that matter.
@@travisemmanuel I have watched the animated series, but personally I don't consider it part of Star Trek history. Discovery? Watch a few episodes, and I figured if this is Star Trek, it's dead to me.
@@travisemmanuel So you were right.
@@Kikilang60 R I P. I love it.
The bane of shows everywhere - that one thing that never gets mentioned again.
Haha, actually the worst thing about threshold is, if traveling at Warp 10 accelerates evolution, why did both Paris and Janeway end up looking the same at the end? I mean, Paris had already gone through an evolution, shouldn't he have evolved even further? So silly. The Borg nanoprobe thing is at least understandable, given the humans fear of assimilation.
The android emotions in TOS were more of a malfunction that led to their destruction because they were a simpler design, and in TNG they followed that same path when Lal malfunctioned, developed emotions, and then shut down.
the years later Data gets the emotion chip and lives, now if only they could get a chip for lal oh well too late now....
It seems to me that Lal had much the same problem with emotions as Rayna in Requiem for Methuselah. And I don't see why Noonian Singh couldn't have made use of some findings from study of the technology discovered in By Any Other Name. It's reasonable to accept that alien technology can't always be perfectly understood and duplicated.
The androids from I, Mudd. Where they were all connected through a central database which locked up due to illogic. The ones on EXO-III, did not malfunction completely. They were destroyed with phasers not through emotions and shut down.
The brunette android girl in “What Are Little Girls Made Of?” sure was a looker though.
@@bcs2em625 Oh yeah! She was a STUNNER!
Star Trek: Voyager's episode 'The Killing Game' showed the Hirogen installing holo-emitters throughout USS Voyager for expanded holo-killing fun... so DS9's 'Bar Association' wasn't that far off.
But that is in its self is a forgotten upgrade never used by voyager again after the ep ends
That Quarks bar had holo-emitters installed doe's not surprise me as they can also be used for discreet surveillance of the staff and guests. I can also imagine them used to pick pockets.
@@andymccurdy5029 The hirogen in the episode state that the new holo emitters are taking up massive amounts of power from the ship. Quark only added emitters to his bar so the only thing he has to worry about is his electric bill going up.
@@JaredLS10 - Yeah, but they would have been handy for the doctor to get around without using his portable emitter all the time. And he'd be using one at a time with limited projection volume, not creating entire battlefields...
@@chrisbuckley7345 oh I agree, but I think the ability to site to site transport patients to sick bay kept them from thinking that route.
I'm not a trek geek but a longtime fan. I started watching TOS when it first came out. I find it fascinating that there are people out there (like you) that do deep dives into various aspects of the series. Liked and subbed immediately!!! I really like your content and your narration. Keep it up!!!!
Actually there are a couple of ST:TOS episodes where they use the wide setting for a phaser.
wide beam setting on a phaser uses a phaser power pack up at a greatly increased rate and is limited to settings 1-6. Plus, the wide beam setting also cuts your effective range substantially as well, meaning having to wait until the Jem'Hadar were basically on top of your position before firing.
The use of it at the Siege of AR-558 would not have been tactically sound.
SCIENCE!
You made me look at the catfish-salamanders. You owe me a new set of eyes.
"The Changeling" in TOS. Just like in #1 'By any other name" the Changeling improves the antimatter engines so they ship can travel beyond the limits of the Enterprise's hull. The changes are subsequently undone to prevent the ship's destruction. Don't you think any new starfleet ships would have the modified engine design, and then build an improved hull's to travel much faster then ever before?
Seeing as TNG has new warp factors and has a limit of warp 10 whereas TOS can go up to warp 13 and higher, maybe they did use all the warp modifications in TOS and used them on TNG and later.
@@shimata17 I suspect TNG reconverted that scale, just as every country except the US now uses metric instead of imperial measurements.
Phasers' wide-beam setting was actually mentioned in TNG's “Power Play” by Riker after Data, Troi, and O'Brien shoot their way into Ten Forward and take hostages.
"What are little girls made of" is such a classic episode!
Ted Cassidy was unforgettable in it.
@@cha5 And Sherry Jackson.
I believe they forgot to mention the androids in 'I Mudd', but they probably couldn't get anyone to go back to the planet with 500 copies of Mudd's wife down there.
@@HariSeldon913 During the "Time Cell" sequence in Loki, Episode 4, I could hear Sif saying "Harcourt Fenton Mudd!" She should have said, "Loki! Loki Laufeysonn, where have you been? What have you been up to? Have you been drinking again, you miserable sot! You good-for-nothing..."
there is a book where a young Noonien Soong and friends do go to the planet and they accidentally awaken untold numbers of the big muscled, bald androids. and RUN for their lives
These also bedevil any game master trying to run a Star Trek RPG, because you can be damn sure the players are going to try to make use of these loopholes...
Maybe that's a good thing! Free from the constraints of an ongoing T.V. series, players can problem solve using the tools available, and wreak beautiful chaos. ⚡
I once told a player they can use the TARDIS tractor beam to throw asteroids at planetary surfaces, if so inclined, even though that function is almost never used in Doctor Who, to my knowledge.
Played and GM'd plenty of Trek games... can confirm.
I once sterilzed a planet because of some bullshit General Order from TOS. My GM was mad at me and asked me really, really nicely not to when I first did it, because she spent a long time writing a module... so I sterilzed the next planet instead.
When I GM'd, I had a dude who wanted to use the warp drive to fire phasers at a single target from multiple different angles at once so as to destroy all the enemy's critical components at once... When he brought up Data doing more or less the same thing to the Ferengi during a war game, I had to relent. Also used time travel to blow up a weapons factory, used the Doctor's sonic shenanagins from Day of the Doctor to compute a cryptographic key, and most damning of all, marooned half of my crew on the planet at the the center of the galaxy...
Got my revenge, though, for that one. His character got killed by a Gorn.
ROLF, that last line about ‘Threshold’ genuinely had me laughing with tears in my eyes.
I think the most game changing possible was the episode of TNG, the Chase, when it was revealed that the galaxy was seeded by one species so all the species we were descended from one species. This definitely should have changed everything to know everyone was related but it was never mentioned again
Yes -- I was going to mention "The Chase", so thanks for doing so. I still can't believe there was never any follow-up with this in any other episode of Trek (not in the rest of TNG, not in DS9, etc.)🙂👍🏻🤔
The warp 5 threshold, mentioned only few times in tng and then promptly forgotten in ds9 and voyager
You can forgive DS9 and Voyager because war and being sent to the other side of the galaxy are emergencies by their own right. Nobody outside the Federation would care about that limit.
I thought Voyager’s nacelle design was meant to address that subspace silliness.
It's not "canon", but there is a novel ("Cold Equations: The Persistence of Memory") where Noonian Sungh fakes his death again - and travels to Exo III and converts his body to an android.
It was a good novel
You had me with your first three words, so I stopped reading after that. :)
There's also TNG season 1 that establishes that it's easy for 24th Federation medical technology to revive a recently deceased person who was placed in cryostasis, but the Voyager episode with the spatial anomaly which had the NASA Mars mission astronaut dead but perfectly preserved was just left on the spacecraft.
How about TNG episode "The Chase" where we find out all the species in the Alpha quadrant were seeded there. That is literally never mentioned again.
Did it change anything though? I don't even recall anything being affected by it in the episode, except the romulan captain acting nicer to Picard.
Quite sure it was just a clever way to exscuse the fact all aliens in Star Trek were just people with make up.
Most of these could probably be explained as "we didn't discover the horrific side effects until after the episode". As for suggesting that Dr Soong could have used the TOS-era android technology to advance his research, how do you know he didn't?
The fact that Soong created an Android of his wife that didn’t even know it was an android pretty much confirms that he visited at least one of those planets if not both
@@russellharrell2747 but one would think androids would be a little more common in the Federation by the time TNG takes place. But nope, for years Data was the only one of his kind.
@@indetigersscifireview4360 Three, at least. There was also Shore Leave.
How about because they're never mentioned? Any story related to Data's origin should have mentioned these prior arts, even if Soong didn't study them. The first season of the Picard series revolved around the Romulans destroying AI. They could have mentioned the Romulans destroying these planets shortly after Kirk discovered them, in an attempt to close that continuity plot-hole.
@@apmcd47 There are many explanations for that, the simplest being that the Romulans just didn't know about the planet. After all, there were no androids left there, only the machinery for making them. And I doubt Kirk's logs were widely available to the Romulans.
What about the Enterprise incident where kirk steals a romulan cloaking device which the federation never used again.
Perhaps this was the basis for the later STTNG episode "The Pegasus"...
Funnily enough, the DC *Star Trek* comic run from *TMP* and through the 80’s actually had the Enterprise (and eventual Enterprise-A) equipped with a cloaking device, which they did use occasionally.
They made reference in some episodes, maybe even that one, that part of "peace treaty" the Federation had with the Romulans stated the Federation wasn't allowed use cloaking devices. While some ships did the Federation would never make it obvious they were by putting it in a bunch. It was probably part of the basis for the one in the Defiant on DS9. Granted the Peace Treaty might have been made up later to explain why they didn't keep using it.
@@GrimmShadowsII While Section 31, phase cloak the ship, they don't need to know we have the tech for years. lol
SPOCK HIMSELF told the Romulan commander (RIP Joanne Linville) that "military secrets are the most fleeting of all". Presumably, as SHE HERWELF predicted, they learned how to defeat that weapon.
And war goes merrily on.
In the case of numbers four, atleast for the dominion I thought it was that phasers had to be set to kill to even effect jem'hadar, maybe the wide beam setting doesn't function with the higher settings, as early in the dominion arc we are shown the federation using it to sweep rooms for changelings.
But it is of course a plot device not to use it against Jem'Hadar. Ok, so you need full power to kill one, a hand phaser on the broader setting is not enough. But we never see 10 people shooting such a broad band shot at the same time. That should probably still do the trick.
I'm fine with the way it is, but in the end it is a plothole with is rather lazily patched up.
You see this is why I like TrekCulture your team works hard to give thought to the things I have wondered for a long time. Thanks for SHARING Sean, Your team has found some things that in NEW STAR TREK should be followed up when thinks happen in episodes.
Into Darkness: interstellar beaming and life-saving super-blood.
So they don't necessarily need starships or fear death anymore, right?
The Abrams Universe/Kelvin timeline sucks and should be removed from our memories.
@@stevebojo4378 Where's the Time Variance Authority when you need them?
Interstellar beaming was first used in the 2009 movie.
Fair point, @@kerryedavis. You've put it in a whole new perspective.
Let's see if I remember it correctly. Scotty Prime, we're assured, solved the design by which to accomplish it. Spock Prime, no surprise here, memorized it and showed it to the younger Mister Scott. Young Scotty sees how he'd later have that Eureka moment and puts it to practical use.
In light of that, the question ceases to be why things don't seem revolutionized after Into Darkness. It's why Scotty has this invention worthy of Spock's attention that they never put to use in all those years.
Was that adddressed?
@@alm2187 No idea, I only barely watched the 2009 movie once, because it was so awful and completely screwed things up. Nothing after that.
the aged Kirk, Spock, and McCoy are all deaged, via the transporter in The Lorelei Signal, TNGs Rascals has a similar idea. The transporter is a god machine capable of almost anything asked of it.
@@indetigersscifireview4360 from a writers POV, the idea you fix something that a storyline creating machine, seems like a bad idea.
@@indetigersscifireview4360 the writers like the transport, it can allow them to create, or end all kinds of story madness. Trek wont ever make a transport which does not malfunction from time to time
@@indetigersscifireview4360 I think the problem is that whilst all of those issues exist, its still talked about like its really safe, when there are many examples of that not being the case. You cant even say its limited to one ship anymore
Fun Fact: The phaser's wide beam option was originally introduced in the 1968 ST: TOS episode "A Piece of The Action", where the Enterprise used the wide beam phasers to stun an entire city street full of warring gangsters. The wide beam phaser option was then promptly forgotten until ST: Voyager repeatedly reintroduced it and forgot it again and again, as each of the individual episodes' plot needed it to! (*LOL!*)
Thank you for including Plato's Stepchildren in your list.
As a kid this episode fascinated me. The telekinesis seemed like such a cool ability to have (a decade or so before Star Wars and the Force allowed every Sith and Jedi to do the same), and as I watched later episodes I always wondered why they never used it again. After all, Kirk's final speech said that the Stepchildren people had better behave because (paraphrasing from memory) "we can recreate this power in a matter of minutes." But they never did.
The fact that their phasers can be deactivated by remote control like they did to Rasmussen in "A matter of time". I think there have been other episodes when weapons were deactivated during transport.
The design of the TRICODERS in TNG has a biometric scanner for the person's fingerprint. I guess if it wasn't programed for you, you could not use it. It would have been a great idea on the phasers too.
@@gobbletegook It would have been a great idea, like in judge dredd. I don't recall tricorders having that feature though.
what about the Hirogen, they were originally 8 or 9 ft tall but every episode later they were human sized
1:00 - If Voyager traveled as fast as the Enterprise did in "That Which Survives", they would have been home in just over a month.
But they couldn't, because the Enterprise was going to blow up in just a few more seconds.
@@kerryedavis You're thinking of later in the episode after Losira causes the engine to run wild. I was referring to an earlier scene where they start heading back to the planet after discovering they've been thrown 990.7 light years:
Lt. Rhada: We're holding warp eight point four, sir. If we can maintain it, our estimated time of arrival is eleven and one half solar hours.
Mr. Spock: Eleven point three three seven hours, Lieutenant. I wish you would be more precise.
So, that makes it roughly 2,000 ly/day, which incidentally puts the Andromeda galaxy at under three years travel time. Math doesn't seem to be the writer's strong suit.
@@jamesbrown4092 Oh yes, but warp 8 was not a long-term thing either. Also remember that when pursuing the Cloud Creature in "Obsession" at warp 8, Scotty first warns "Captain, we can't maintain warp eight speed much longer. Pressures are approaching the critical point" and then a little later "Captain, we can't do it. If we keep this speed, we'll blow up any minute now." And in "Arena" we're told that even sustained warp 7 is dangerous.
Awesome compilation. Over the decades, my brother and I would talk about some of the incredible transporter uses and subsequent dismissals. While I can understand how they're glossed over in TOS, since production concerns weren't too focused on that aspect. It is remarkable those threads weren't better managed in all subsequent series, especially with the transporter.
Missed one: the warp speed limit and the episode that spawned it
In several episodes Enterprise is given permission to exceed this speed limit.
Ah yes, the most prominent type of plot hole in Star Trek, if not every series...
My biggest gripe against corporate-funded series:
Sometimes the bigger picture/long-term ramifications of plot decisions are not fully considered, and the other writers just couldn't be bothered researching/coordinating these often very specific ramifications afterward, and nowadays the focus is on politics, so sadly this probably will never improve, if not get worse.
Overall, it's a continuity no-win scenario, that almost always leads to annoying plot holes or *hanging plot threads.*
I remember when TNG, DS9, and Voyager were first aired, I subbed yo a newsgroup for Star Trek. We came up with an acronym - YATI (Yet Another Trek Inconsistancy). Pretty much saying, "we acknowledge problems with a consistaint linear story line, and may even get into a deep discussion about it. However, we won't let it kill our love for the show(s), and in the long run chalk it up to YATI."
The thing about number 4 was that they had a living lie detector in Deanna Troi. And a full Betazoid is even more sensitive as we saw from Lwaxana on several occasions (save for the Ferengi). You'd think at least one Betazoid would part of any ships crew compliment with a natural skill like that.
Brilliant analysis and a very proper list! You missed two big ones from the Original Series. First, in Patterns of Force the routine injection of rubidium crystals injected under the skin so that if the landing party fails to check in with the ship they could be immediately beamed up. Might have come in handy once or twice. Second and in my opinion, one of the worst ignored changes ever is the Psycho-Tricorder used in A Wolf in the Fold the "scan" Scotties memories to document what he actually remembers. I ask myself, the Federation has this device and they still have court-martials with cross examining witnesses? Why?
"The City on the Edge of Forever" introduces us to the Guardian of Forever, a device or being (or both) capable of altering the entire history of the universe, wiping out anything or anybody you don't like. And Kirk just walks away from it. That planet hosts such a threat to the Federation that it should be enshrouded by a massive fleet of heavily armed starships.
Not actual episodes, but several devices and abilities in Star Trek represent serious issues for plot-lines. As many point out, the whole idea of transporters is one of them. Does it create a "copy" at the destination and thereby "kills" the original during a transport? Wow, that's pretty harsh. Or does it merely recreate the original? And if so, where do the various episode copies come from then? And aside from the medical and mortality implications of the device, what about the tactical ones? Forget phasers and photons once the shields are down: Just beam out big chunks of the hull from enemy ships. Some probe called Nomad giving you a bad time? Just stick it in the transporter and set the field to wide dispersion. The Doomsday Device looking to ruin tourism on Rigel? Just start at the rear and start beaming bits and pieces of it away...so simple.
The other issue is of course time travel. Even with the Guardian heavily, um, well, guarded, the ability to time travel is way too easy in the Star Trek universe. There are at least three other instances in TOS where time travel is employed by design (the warp-speed breakaway maneuver, the controlled implosion operation and the Atavachron) which means its not that hard to do, and anyone (Klingons, Romulans, Gorns, etc.) with a little 23rd century tech could seriously fluck-up the Federation big time by using it.
The Guardian shows up again in last season's Discovery. Additional info about it is revealed.
I like the use of The Guardian in the novels Yesterday's Son and Time Enough for Yesterday.
The Guardian of Forever was guarded by Federation starships as a team of scientists researched it. And Spock went back to his childhood when visiting those researchers. Or are you saying the Animated Series isn't canon?
@@johnsavard7583 Huh, I did forget about that episode of the TAS. And for a long time, the TAS was NOT considered canon.
@@35mm21 I loved that episode--especially when they overlayed Bart LaRue's original dialogue when it revealed itself.
Phasers wide beam and higher settings that vaporize on contact. I always assumed these settings used ridiculous amounts of energy making them a bad choice for extended firefights. Sure you can vaporize that incoming platoon but what good is it if you get captured while reloading?
I’ve always loved how security footage used in the TOS movies is not traditional security cam footage but rather actual edited scenes used in Trek 2 and 3. 😁🖖
What about the episode where they discovered that using warp drive destroys the universe and Starfleet decided to limit the use of warp 5 and above to emergencies only? that directive obviously went out of the window in the next episodes almost at the speed of light.
Wasn't the speed limit warp 6.5?
@@PuffyCloud_aka_puffeclaude It was from my memory, but because you asked I've checked the end of the TNG episode "Force of Nature" at Netflix and they say there warp 5.
My impression is that the design of the Intrepid class with it's variable-geometry nacelles is an early effort to created subspace-friendly warp, and that the further resolution of this problem is visually represented by the sleek hull design of the Sovereign class.
@@YadraVoat As I mentioned in another thread on the same subject earlier, that is all well and good that Starfleet worked on getting around the problem, but doesn’t explain how the hundreds of other warp-capable species complied. One would hardly imagine toxic dumpers like the Malon and others even caring enough to modify their travel and if a small minority of civilizations like the Federation and a handful of others redesigned their engines, it wouldn’t be nearly enough to save subspace throughout the four quadrants of the galaxy.
"Rascals" The literally Fountain of Youth using the transporter... I'd sign up for that.
A common misconception. It was NOT the transporter that turned Capt Picard and the others into children. It was an energy anomaly that caused the change. This energy anomaly (referred to as a a molecular reversion field) also affected a portion of the shuttlecraft causing some of the tritanium hull to suffer molecular breakdown rendering it easily shattered by minor force (in this case, pressure from a human hand)
Speaking of AR-558, what if the defiant had been able to stun the Jem'Hadar with the ship's phasers from orbit like the Enterprise did in TOS A Piece Of The Action?
The quality and consistency of the writing were never among Treks' strong suits.
Prometheus features a ship wide holographic system…
I was always wondering why they didn’t use the lie detector chair in the other series
Honestly they wouldn't be necessary. Ship's onboard sensors should be able to give them any readout needed. The thing is that the lie detector chair was an overstep by Starfleet. The modern US Military cannot force service members to take a polygraph, as Article 31 and the 5th Amendment apply.
All this said, the chair was largely a product of the era TOS was from.
Laws change. They probably decided it went against individual rights of Federation citizens.
Its probably Inadmissible in space court
The Doctor actually mentions it in Voyager but says they only know how to use it on Alpha Quadrant species.
@@noahbody9875 mirroring the contemporary culture which made each show, yeah.
Just like the 55, er, warp 5 speed limit thing. (Cue Sammy Hagar…)
excellent video!, always drivin me crazy these episodes implications, yes! The People duplicating powers (and granting immortality) of the "transporter" is of-course a YUGE on never really acknowledged dealt with at-all.
I always just wrote these advances off as "For some reason later on they were found to have latent detrimental effects so it was never used again". That's a really cheap blanket excuse but it does fit.
About Number Eight. I think, my opinion only, that the mineral/chemical would only work while on that particular planet. I've read of this type of thing in several different sci-fi stories and books over my 71 years.
insurrection
The discovery of duplicate Earths in the Original series, ie Miri's World.
The later Trek series moved away from the duplicate Earth worlds because they had better budgets. The original series had make use of already existing props and costumes.
... or the one where they had our exact US constitution.
There are later episodes that say "nobody has broken the warp 10 barrier" making Threshold the only episode to be stricken from the canon.
Bravo Trek Culture. Well spotted and hilarious! Thank you. Need that this evening.