How To Use Data In Football Manager

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  • Опубликовано: 13 июл 2024
  • If you've gone in to the FM23 Data Hub, taken one look and walked straight out again, don't worry, you're not alone! In fact, FM Llama completed an entire RUclips series playing attributeless without using the Football Manager 2023 Data Hub. The problem was, he just didn't know where to find the data or how to interpret it if he did. Well, worry not, because thanks to the work of data analysis expert Isaac Lockett and FM23 tactics genius Miguel Baiao, a.k.a Mike, Llama has been schooled and is here to teach you everything he has learned.
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    CHAPTERS
    00:00 Intro
    00:25 The Set Up
    02:42 Finding Data in FM23
    03:19 Interpreting Data
    09:43 Data-led Tactical Changes
    15:32 Applying Data To Your Saves
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  • @TheManagersSeat
    @TheManagersSeat  Год назад +6

    Let us know how much you use the data hub and what pieces of data you find the most useful in your FM23 saves

  • @EDTeo
    @EDTeo Год назад +11

    Game changing video once again llama. All thx to input from Isaac and Mike. 👍👍👍👍

    • @TheManagersSeat
      @TheManagersSeat  Год назад +1

      Thanks! Mike and Isaac can now teach the unteachable student!

  • @KevinV90
    @KevinV90 Год назад +23

    This is litterally a vid for anyone out there. Introduction, explaining and acting on the findings. All very well explained.
    Slight warning tho: mastering data can become very addictive! 😇😂

    • @TheManagersSeat
      @TheManagersSeat  Год назад +4

      We always like you Kev, but now you're our favourite! What a great comment
      As someone that knows the data well, what are your favourite bits of data to diagnose problems with your tactic? Or are you someone that likes to analyse EVERYTHING before making changes?

    • @KevinV90
      @KevinV90 Год назад +7

      @@TheManagersSeat Love you guys! Oh my, what type of person am i? I’m just the maniac who thinks my fm save is my irl office. I’m the type of guy who goes through match highlights from my next opponent’s previous matches myself to identify their way of playing. For example this lets me decide on wheter to use a Iwb to overload the midfield, or use an IF/WB combo to pin their defenders and work the space on the flanks.
      The data i often use myself are passmaps, pitch tilt, shot maps and i want to know where we win back our possession on the field. These mostly are key for me when playing the Ajax style of football.
      I actually love to combine the raw numbers from the different squad views with the in-depth match analysis screens where you can find almost anything from particular matches.
      For example, I play Alvarez as a DMdefend and raw data shows me his percentage for tackles won is very high, but this number alone doesn’t tell the whole story. So i also take into account we faced rather weak opponents in our last 5 matches. Therefore i go and have a look in the match analysis and select Alvarez in combination with where he engaged his opponents on the pitch.
      All the dots now showed that he won the majority of his tackles rather deep in our own half. Something i did not want to see when playing a high press/high line against a far weaker opponent.
      This led me to the tweak to make him play as a DMsupport against weaker opponents so he could use his defensive skills higher up the pitch to pin the oppo down even more, not giving them the chance to come out of their own half. It’s these little things of combining certain data numbers with analysis which i value most in playing the game.

    • @TheManagersSeat
      @TheManagersSeat  Год назад +4

      @@KevinV90 Wow! Going through your upcoming opponents previous matches is very detailed. But it sounds like it gives you the marginal gains needed to win matches? Certainly, the changes you describe with changing Alvarez from defend to support sounds like the kind of thing you can only get from a deep dive

    • @KevinV90
      @KevinV90 Год назад +2

      @@TheManagersSeat I feel like if you apply basic logic into your tactics, the game isn’t that hard at all to begin with.
      But i do feel like if you’re willing to dive deep into all the tools the game gives you and you’re able to make the right adjustments according to the findings, this could be the difference between a few losses, or an invincible season, or relegation versus an unexpected mid-table finish 😋

    • @TheManagersSeat
      @TheManagersSeat  Год назад +2

      @@KevinV90 That's a good argument for people taking a bit more time over their analysis I think!

  • @tonyhelano
    @tonyhelano Год назад

    Thanks for explaining everything! Helped me a lot

  • @gamestellstories
    @gamestellstories Год назад +1

    Absolutely brilliant video. Great work, and thanks for the tutorial 👏

    • @TheManagersSeat
      @TheManagersSeat  Год назад +1

      Thanks for such a positive comment. It works wonders for the motivation levels!

  • @TheGibShow
    @TheGibShow Год назад +4

    Amazing job from everyone involved. I am trying to play the same system in the Prem. So I'm hoping with more reading, I can perhaps tweak this and get better

    • @TheManagersSeat
      @TheManagersSeat  Год назад

      Thanks Gib. Let us know your progress. You're not alone in needing to perfect the art!

  • @lapausaftb
    @lapausaftb Год назад

    thank you so much such a great content

  • @callumhayes7502
    @callumhayes7502 Год назад +8

    I'm not too proud to admit it's the least used side menu tab.

    • @mikebairsoftadventures616
      @mikebairsoftadventures616 Год назад +1

      Get on it!

    • @callumhayes7502
      @callumhayes7502 Год назад +1

      @@mikebairsoftadventures616 👁👄👁

    • @TheManagersSeat
      @TheManagersSeat  Год назад +2

      It's alarming that Lllama got through an entire attributeless save without using the data hub. Maybe he delegated it to Nom?

  • @zewlson8617
    @zewlson8617 Год назад +1

    The moment I saw that defend duty in midfield with winger on attack next to him I knew the match engine would punish you. No need to go through all the data most of it is in the roles and duty but from my experience duties are more important because many roles are just cosmetic like some tactics will perform the same regardless you are using IF/IW or DMs/Volante etc. Then we have out of possession team instruction with mentality, tempo and passing that are linked. All of this is what you need to tweak the rest have less impact.

  • @footballfumb5495
    @footballfumb5495 Год назад +1

    Very well explained & interesting video. I knew our weakness was in defence, but the stats pinpointed who!, thx

  • @steveburton8904
    @steveburton8904 Год назад +1

    I live using the data hub to work out where my team isn't performing - the biggest issue is trying to sort this out with tactical tweaks and knowing what to do. Great video though, well explained!

    • @TheManagersSeat
      @TheManagersSeat  Год назад +1

      Thanks Steve. I think you are right - the trick bit is definitely converting analysis of the data into tactical changes. Maybe we need to do a video specifically on this?

  • @gregweaver1847
    @gregweaver1847 Год назад +1

    Thanks Issac!

  • @mikebairsoftadventures616
    @mikebairsoftadventures616 Год назад +5

    Game changer!

    • @TheManagersSeat
      @TheManagersSeat  Год назад +1

      I think we did alright on this one Mike. You and Isaac are absolute heroes

  • @yagak2292
    @yagak2292 Год назад +1

    Issac channeling his inner Job

  • @omarcofie3525
    @omarcofie3525 Год назад

    Great video! Slight problem, I downloaded the views and I don't have half of the stats available to me on the views. The Expected stats, pressures per 90, like most of the newly added stats just don't come up for me in the views. I checked... I'm definitely playing fm23 and not 22 😅

  • @theradioattheendoftheworld4251

    hardly ever look at the data hub honestly but this was a good insight

    • @TheManagersSeat
      @TheManagersSeat  Год назад +2

      Glad you found it helpful. I don't think we're the only people that don't use it much either

  • @danielfajobi7675
    @danielfajobi7675 Год назад

    I have downloaded the squad view file. Where do I put them in my FM folder. Please help 🙏

  • @GAMEiNGSWAG
    @GAMEiNGSWAG Год назад +1

    I didn’t know there was a drop down menu for data hub

  • @MattMajcan
    @MattMajcan 8 месяцев назад

    My problem with the data hub is that it just tells me everything thats wrong with my team but it doesnt tell me why or how to fix it. unfortunately, i play on console and a lot of the features are missing... there's no "ask for" or search option in my data hub

  • @jasonkampanellis2007
    @jasonkampanellis2007 5 месяцев назад

    joined the discord but still cant find mike's report
    any help?

  • @fooooooooooofive
    @fooooooooooofive Год назад

    Love the playstation controller stock footage...

  • @davie3341
    @davie3341 11 месяцев назад

    Can't get the MIKE pdf files to open, ANY IDEAS?

  • @Dieselfu
    @Dieselfu Год назад

    Has Issac left because I can't find any info that you talked about?

  • @FabioFM
    @FabioFM Год назад

    is any of these tips downloadable

  • @anggaihzap
    @anggaihzap Год назад +1

    Me: “I’m gonna use the Data Hub and made my team better with the data!”
    *checks the data hub*
    Me: “Nvm”

    • @TheManagersSeat
      @TheManagersSeat  Год назад

      It definitely can feel a little bit daunting, can't it?
      I think a good starting point is to keep an I on all of the stats for the league in the 'stats' - 'team detailed' section.
      Tracking how many goals you're conceding from set pieces or what your xG per game is or expected league position feels a little less daunting to begin with than pass maps and polygons! Let us know how you get on!

  • @chrisnally8011
    @chrisnally8011 9 месяцев назад +3

    Tried watching. The content is good but it keeps shooting off to clips for comedy value.

  • @MrGianfranco1989
    @MrGianfranco1989 Год назад +1

    Where can I found these views ?( support,defend,attack) I would love to download them

    • @TheManagersSeat
      @TheManagersSeat  Год назад

      If you check out the video description, there is a link there to The Managers Seat discord server. If you've never used discord before, it's like a giant chat room.
      We've organised our server into some different conversations. One of them is called #downloads, which is where the squad views are
      If you can't find them, just type a message with @fmllama in it and I'll point you in the right direction

    • @MrGianfranco1989
      @MrGianfranco1989 Год назад

      Thanks man.

    • @danielfajobi7675
      @danielfajobi7675 Год назад

      ​@@TheManagersSeat, where will I put the squad view files when I download them

  • @yagak2292
    @yagak2292 Год назад

    is "Mike" Pep Guardiola's sock account?

  • @steviec8566
    @steviec8566 11 месяцев назад

    Wait!!!! There is a data hub???

  • @Benjamin-rs3mg
    @Benjamin-rs3mg 8 месяцев назад

    My head hurts allready

  • @fooooooooooofive
    @fooooooooooofive Год назад +1

    In my eyes it takes too many clicks in football manager to see a detailed league table with not just goal difference. That should be easier to find.

  • @rbfishcs123
    @rbfishcs123 5 месяцев назад

    The constant cut scenes of the office aren't needed and are quite frankly, annoying.