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i feel like it would be better to get a new player to do this, bc for some og fe2 players, some stages feel easier than others bc you have played them wayyyyy more than the newer ones that were higlights and stuff
ngl i feel like the ratings are fine, even though there off in some parts, they were mainly put in the game so that new players could have an idea of whats hard and whats not
I’d say Blue Moon is a 5.5 personally. The amount of fumbling in the second half is insane, especially if you’re late at the end, and especially if you’re soloing it. That’s for me, atleast. The other two maps I’m absolutely inconsistent at are SSR and AVM. The rest are personally below a 5.4 difficulty. Except for Decaying Silo, I guess. Maps easy for me but design and gameplay-wise for most players, it’s more of a 5.6 than a 5.7.
Ok about Fall equinox: It’s much more forgiving than Sky Sanctuary, and Fall equinox gives enough time to go through AND time to sightread. The .4 gap may be a little too much, but I do believe sky sanctuary is at least a slight bit harder. Magmatic Mines: Difficulty makes sense. All of these shortcuts are unintended so going through the intended route probably fits that difficulty of 4.5. Blue Moon: I think it honestly fits the difficulty, it’s just a few of the other crazies that u compared, aren’t accurately placed imo. Shroomhaven: I don’t think it’s a peak insane map. At most it’s 4.8 (possibly same as Dark Sci due to similarly lava rising speed). Try playing both maps solo without any shortcuts! Only difference that may change how the difficulty feels are the different lengths of each map. ****Keep in mind that what are thoughts on how easy or hard insane or crazy maps are is subjective due to the WIDE gap of star ratings between them. (Hardest insane is 4.8 while easiest crazy is 5.2. That’s a wide .4 point gap)
I agree with quite a lot of these, although I would only adjust a few by 1 point or two (for example, I think Magmatic Mines should be a 4.4) Also, you really missed an opportunity with Graveyard Cliffside (rated 3.1!), and arguably Abandoned Facility, with it being 4.4.
I will say that for Lost Woods, the lava actually is a bit fast if you don't know about many of the shortcuts, and the buttons are pretty far from the exits, so doing it blind is actually kinda hard for the first time. Granted, 1.4 is still too high, but I wouldn't say it's even close to the easiest Easy map, at least when not taking shortcuts into account. Everything else in the video (other than BM, 5.4 is perfect imo) I agree with a lot. Savannah especially, its first walljump onto the truss is a huge chokepoint so having it marked as one of the easiest Hards after that is ridiculous to me lmao. And Abandoned deserves a mention for its absurdly high rating of 4.4 despite being completable without actually doing most of the gameplay.
I agree with this except for Magmatic Mines, I'd move it down to 3.3 or 3.4 just because of the shortcuts, if they weren't there it would definitely be a 3.5
EVERYBODY GANSTA TILL HE TRIES OUT UNDERWORLD GROVE Personally, I think Underworld Grove should be at 4.7 - 4.8 instead of a 4.4, the lava rises that fast, there's a button where the lava drains, just like most crazy maps, and from the last section, you have to basically speedrun to get to the exit
I would say the ratings for the hard maps was most stupid, like sedimentary temple and wild savanna are widely agreed to be some of the hardest of their difficultly, for a while they WHERE the hardest, so seeing them these low is so so stupid, I would argue sedimentary temple is actually insane
Honestly just a few fixes: 1. Marred Dreams as 1.9 is perfect. It is an easy map with only acid rising, far spread buttons and an intense pace for an easy. 2. Crystal Caverns is a 3.1. I don't see what's so controversial about it 3. Abandoned facility is a 4.1-4.2 imo. 4. Satomi Springs is a 4.7 due to it being only lava and also having many far jumps. (well ig toxic lush water) 5. Ignis Peaks is more 5.3 imo. Slightly easier than Blue Moon, but a little harder than PC 6. Decrepit Seas is more 4.1 due to it being mostly water and having a very slow pace to the map And imo the highlights for july-august's star ratings: Onama Views: 3.3 (slow pace and easy jumps while being mostly lava) Windswept Valley: 3.4-3.5 Archipelago: 1.6 (mainly due to its length) Closing Hours: 1.3 Submerging Coastland: 5.2 (maybe slightly harder than pc but still a 5.2) Spider Dungeon: 5.3 (yeah same) Arctic Grotto: 3.4 (yeah just as hard as classic fallen mainly due to the unforgiving end section) Desolate Domain: 5.1 (Crazy yes. Harder than PC? no) Dormant vale: 1.5 Crawling Caverns: 1.2 (actually pretty easy and not very intense at all) Shroomhaven: (i agree) Underworld Grove: 4.9-5. (desert ruins pacing with easy jumps) Blooming Lagoon: (idk cause I haven't played as much) anyways these are my opinions. If you disagree, I'm fine with that.
I agree with some of them, imma share my opinion on insanes and crazies Maps that are easier than their diff : Gloomy Manor : Yeah even solo, I dont think Gloomy Manor is tight enough to be considered insane. The lava is pretty slow, some skips make the map a lot more lenient too. Personal difficulty : 3.6 Familiar Ruins : Same as GM, but not as much. FR is lenient for an insane. But it doesnt have any crazy skips unlike GM. I think it would fit a peak hard like 3.9 Blue Moon : Now I think this is easier than its diff but not a 4.2 like cmon, I wouldve put it a 5.2 maybe, the 2nd part is not that tight, and honestly i feel like its less faster-paced than other crazies Ignis Peaks : I think putting IP above SSH or DD doesnt feel right imo, like ik it's pretty tight but I think it's more of a 5.3, only the walljump --> truss jump is goofy Maps harder than their diff : Sinking Ship : I think the lava is a little fast for a 4.6, like legit towards the end you dont even climb that much in height, and the lava is close, imo 4.8 Decaying Silo : Imo a 5.8, only because of the 2nd tower. Somehow they managed to make it even more tighter than AVM's main tower. Like what- Shroomhaven Temple : Yup, I agree, the lava is way too fast for a low insane, i wouldnt call it hardest insane but I think it would comfortably sit at 4.7. Like at the end it's really tight and only at the end you can see if you won or not like crazies (SSH, DD, BM, SD) Also remember when chaoz japan was first introduced into the game? It was rated a 5.0, like in the first hours, but quickly changed to 5.6
I do not agree with some of the fe2 star ratings. Like Cave System's star rating at all, in my opinion it is the second hardest normal map, and it might even be harder than Snowy Peaks. And to me, Blue Moon is the same difficulty or even easier than PC.
Honestly I disagree with most of these opinions, especially Buried Oasis and Fall Equinox, they are NOT the hardest map of their difficulties whatsoever, whereas some maps that have good enough ratings like Relic Valley, Magmatic Mines and Blue Moon are fine as it is. There still some maps that are way worse like Abandoned Facility, Graveyard Cliffside etc.
BM sure is easier than IP and SC but I’ll have to disagree on it being easier than DD and SSH tbf DD is PC it’s difficulty maybe even easier many have beaten that map in like 5 attempts as for SSH that ones is a lil more understandable why you think it’s harder but the difficulty is like BARELY easier than BM one of the main reasons why you may think BM is one of the easiest is because that was the 1st crazy in FE2 so obviously allot of people have played it getting so used to it. That’s what I think tho I respect your opinion and get why you think those difficulties are inaccurate I had the same at 1st till I redid a few of em again and figured out some are easier ESPECIALLY Desolated Domain other than that some of the star ratings are very inaccurate take Chaoz Japan for example… (5.0) Like what?! Let’s keep it a buck.
Easy and Hard maps and ST has the most weird star ratings. Buried Oasis is a hard easy, so it should be 4.7-4.8. Lost Woods can be a 1.2-1.3 to make it more better ST is a highlight map, but its actually a hard insane, but the 4.2 ratings dosen't have much sense
Tbh the star ratings are trash. They are not even accurate on some maps like snowy stronghold and some others as well as the hardest maps (not crazy) have lower star ratings.
i stand by the fact that magmatic mines is too easy for a 4.5, but i wouldnt go as far as saying that it's easier than fm. fm is the easiest in my opinion
okay turns out it did get buffed. the rest of this comment is INVALID and STUPID. Shroomhaven temple is honestly made out to be much harder. I beat it in like 3 tries to solo, my friends beat it first try when I pushed the buttons afterwards (at least in FE2CM, idk if it got buffed recently). It's a lot easier than people made it out to be... none of us had even seen the map before we'd played it. It shouldn't be 4.2, but it should NOT be 4.9.
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Those high jumps and seriously long jumps is absurd for spider dungeon being a 5.3, I think it’s between a 5.5 and 5.6 honestly
Its like 5.1 for me cuz i am super consistent at it
I have seen people say it's easy once you play it enough
blue moon is a 5.8 for me, i rarely beat it
1:21 Despite how long the Map is, The first and second rooms have Water. But in Marred Dreams the entire map is filled with Acid and is very wide.
Let marred dreams a 1.9, but buried oasis def a 1.8
TBF its not the acid for me that marred dreams is peak, but that theres room to be lost
7:09 "BM should be like pc so a *4.2*" LOL
you can’t be messing with my typos 9 months later
shroomhaven definitely felt like a 4.2 before it got buffed, but now the speed is absurd
i feel like it would be better to get a new player to do this, bc for some og fe2 players, some stages feel easier than others bc you have played them wayyyyy more than the newer ones that were higlights and stuff
But newer players will give them absurdly high ratings, so maybe a player who’s still learning but isn’t too skilled or too noob
"ummm actually crazy blox is right and always right"
"Uhhmmm achtually" ☝🤓
(This is a joke)
(Funny comment bro)
ngl i feel like the ratings are fine, even though there off in some parts, they were mainly put in the game so that new players could have an idea of whats hard and whats not
The difference is that Sky Sanctuary is like if you mess up, you're done. Over.
Whereas Fall Equinox gives you some time to recover mistakes.
You know what's funny about the Shroom Haven Temple ranking is that I beat first try and then ever since it has been really difficult
I’d say Blue Moon is a 5.5 personally.
The amount of fumbling in the second half is insane, especially if you’re late at the end, and especially if you’re soloing it.
That’s for me, atleast. The other two maps I’m absolutely inconsistent at are SSR and AVM. The rest are personally below a 5.4 difficulty.
Except for Decaying Silo, I guess. Maps easy for me but design and gameplay-wise for most players, it’s more of a 5.6 than a 5.7.
Rip mushroomleak temple :C
Ok about Fall equinox:
It’s much more forgiving than Sky Sanctuary, and Fall equinox gives enough time to go through AND time to sightread. The .4 gap may be a little too much, but I do believe sky sanctuary is at least a slight bit harder.
Magmatic Mines:
Difficulty makes sense. All of these shortcuts are unintended so going through the intended route probably fits that difficulty of 4.5.
Blue Moon:
I think it honestly fits the difficulty, it’s just a few of the other crazies that u compared, aren’t accurately placed imo.
Shroomhaven:
I don’t think it’s a peak insane map. At most it’s 4.8 (possibly same as Dark Sci due to similarly lava rising speed). Try playing both maps solo without any shortcuts! Only difference that may change how the difficulty feels are the different lengths of each map.
****Keep in mind that what are thoughts on how easy or hard insane or crazy maps are is subjective due to the WIDE gap of star ratings between them. (Hardest insane is 4.8 while easiest crazy is 5.2. That’s a wide .4 point gap)
I agree with quite a lot of these, although I would only adjust a few by 1 point or two (for example, I think Magmatic Mines should be a 4.4)
Also, you really missed an opportunity with Graveyard Cliffside (rated 3.1!), and arguably Abandoned Facility, with it being 4.4.
Abandoned is 4.4 when solo, cuz a mistake while swimming can get you messed up.
abandoned's rating is actually fair (on solo), but on multiplayer its actually reduced by 1 or 2 points (imo) so a 4.3 is an accurate one for me
quick heads up that it was the community who chose the star ratings, not crazyblox before anyone starts to blame him.
I will say that for Lost Woods, the lava actually is a bit fast if you don't know about many of the shortcuts, and the buttons are pretty far from the exits, so doing it blind is actually kinda hard for the first time. Granted, 1.4 is still too high, but I wouldn't say it's even close to the easiest Easy map, at least when not taking shortcuts into account.
Everything else in the video (other than BM, 5.4 is perfect imo) I agree with a lot. Savannah especially, its first walljump onto the truss is a huge chokepoint so having it marked as one of the easiest Hards after that is ridiculous to me lmao. And Abandoned deserves a mention for its absurdly high rating of 4.4 despite being completable without actually doing most of the gameplay.
@yabohaib well, acid, lol. But you get the idea
I agree with this except for Magmatic Mines, I'd move it down to 3.3 or 3.4 just because of the shortcuts, if they weren't there it would definitely be a 3.5
@@aterrariaPlayer492nahh you put magmatic mines to hard difficulty
@@nickancraft1833 Yeah that makes no sense anymore
EVERYBODY GANSTA TILL HE TRIES OUT UNDERWORLD GROVE
Personally, I think Underworld Grove should be at 4.7 - 4.8 instead of a 4.4, the lava rises that fast, there's a button where the lava drains, just like most crazy maps, and from the last section, you have to basically speedrun to get to the exit
fr its literally 4.7 on fe2cm
Underworld Grove is legit a crazy map cause of its desert ruins speed
@Minussssss just came back after the reply, looks like they updated it and made it into a 4.7
i love how you emphasized 'In Flood Escape 2' for the intro
I would say the ratings for the hard maps was most stupid, like sedimentary temple and wild savanna are widely agreed to be some of the hardest of their difficultly, for a while they WHERE the hardest, so seeing them these low is so so stupid, I would argue sedimentary temple is actually insane
FIXING STAR SYSTEM
(Please respect peoples opinion)
(HIGHLIGHTS EXCLUDED)
Easy
Castle tides: 1.1
Lost woods: 1.2
Axiom: 1.3
Zemblanity: 1.4
Eerie peaks: 1.4
Polar Industry: 1.4
Poisonous Valley: 1.5
Forsaken era: 1.5
Retro Coast: 1.6
Buried Oasis: 1.8
Marred dreams: 1.8
Normal
Oriental grove: 2.2
Decrepit seas: 2.2
Flood island: 2.4
Infiltration: 2.4
Sky sanctuary: 2.5
Mysterium: 2.6
Cave system: 2.6
Forgotten Tombs: 2.6
Northerns: 2.6
Construction thrill: 2.7
Fall Equinox: 2.8
Hard
Crystal caverns (kinda controversial but): 3.1
Snowy peaks: 3.2
Graveyard cliffside: 3.3
Classic Fallen: 3.4
Lava tower 3.5
Toxic woods: 3.6
Darksci Forest: 3.6
Wild Savannah: 3.6
Sedimentary temple: 3.7
Sunken citadel: 3.8
Relic valley: 3.8
Poisonous forest: 3.8
Insane
Familiar ruins: 4.1
Gloomy manor: 4.2
Magmatic mines: 4.4
Abandoded facility: 4.4
Lost desert: 4.5
Fallen: 4.6
Sinking ship: 4.6
Satomi springs: 4.6
Shroomhaven temple
(the only highlited map here idk why): 4.6
Beneath the ruins: 4.7
Darksci Facility: 4.8
Crazy
Poisonous chasm: 5.2
Blue moon: 5.4
Snowy stronghold: 5.4
Ignis peaks: 5.4
Sandswept ruins: 5.6
Decaying silo: 5.7
Active volcanic mines: 5.9
Honestly just a few fixes:
1. Marred Dreams as 1.9 is perfect. It is an easy map with only acid rising, far spread buttons and an intense pace for an easy.
2. Crystal Caverns is a 3.1. I don't see what's so controversial about it
3. Abandoned facility is a 4.1-4.2 imo.
4. Satomi Springs is a 4.7 due to it being only lava and also having many far jumps. (well ig toxic lush water)
5. Ignis Peaks is more 5.3 imo. Slightly easier than Blue Moon, but a little harder than PC
6. Decrepit Seas is more 4.1 due to it being mostly water and having a very slow pace to the map
And imo the highlights for july-august's star ratings:
Onama Views: 3.3 (slow pace and easy jumps while being mostly lava)
Windswept Valley: 3.4-3.5
Archipelago: 1.6 (mainly due to its length)
Closing Hours: 1.3
Submerging Coastland: 5.2 (maybe slightly harder than pc but still a 5.2)
Spider Dungeon: 5.3 (yeah same)
Arctic Grotto: 3.4 (yeah just as hard as classic fallen mainly due to the unforgiving end section)
Desolate Domain: 5.1 (Crazy yes. Harder than PC? no)
Dormant vale: 1.5
Crawling Caverns: 1.2 (actually pretty easy and not very intense at all)
Shroomhaven: (i agree)
Underworld Grove: 4.9-5. (desert ruins pacing with easy jumps)
Blooming Lagoon: (idk cause I haven't played as much)
anyways these are my opinions. If you disagree, I'm fine with that.
Most of them I agree with but some of the ratings is pretty absurd but people have different opinions, either way great video!
Common ev_n W. I've genuinely never agreed more with a tier list
i dont
Sedimentary Temple’s rating is the most scuffed one in the whole game, and any og players with enough hours knows why.
6:14 i mean, if you do like 3 skips that save 10 seconds each, of course it’s gonna be too easy
shroomhaven was my cousins first insane. plus put mossy shrine and doctor on your mind
Don't forget marred dreams, might be it's competitor
I agree with some of them, imma share my opinion on insanes and crazies
Maps that are easier than their diff :
Gloomy Manor : Yeah even solo, I dont think Gloomy Manor is tight enough to be considered insane. The lava is pretty slow, some skips make the map a lot more lenient too.
Personal difficulty : 3.6
Familiar Ruins : Same as GM, but not as much. FR is lenient for an insane. But it doesnt have any crazy skips unlike GM. I think it would fit a peak hard like 3.9
Blue Moon : Now I think this is easier than its diff but not a 4.2 like cmon, I wouldve put it a 5.2 maybe, the 2nd part is not that tight, and honestly i feel like its less faster-paced than other crazies
Ignis Peaks : I think putting IP above SSH or DD doesnt feel right imo, like ik it's pretty tight but I think it's more of a 5.3, only the walljump --> truss jump is goofy
Maps harder than their diff :
Sinking Ship : I think the lava is a little fast for a 4.6, like legit towards the end you dont even climb that much in height, and the lava is close, imo 4.8
Decaying Silo : Imo a 5.8, only because of the 2nd tower. Somehow they managed to make it even more tighter than AVM's main tower. Like what-
Shroomhaven Temple : Yup, I agree, the lava is way too fast for a low insane, i wouldnt call it hardest insane but I think it would comfortably sit at 4.7. Like at the end it's really tight and only at the end you can see if you won or not like crazies (SSH, DD, BM, SD)
Also remember when chaoz japan was first introduced into the game? It was rated a 5.0, like in the first hours, but quickly changed to 5.6
7:07 blue moon 4.2 🤑
Oh god 😂 i didnt notice
finallt someone said it
I’ll be honest the people who voted relic valley to be 3.3-3.4 stars are the kind of people to call themselves humble
I do not agree with some of the fe2 star ratings. Like Cave System's star rating at all, in my opinion it is the second hardest normal map, and it might even be harder than Snowy Peaks. And to me, Blue Moon is the same difficulty or even easier than PC.
Honestly I disagree with most of these opinions, especially Buried Oasis and Fall Equinox, they are NOT the hardest map of their difficulties whatsoever, whereas some maps that have good enough ratings like Relic Valley, Magmatic Mines and Blue Moon are fine as it is. There still some maps that are way worse like Abandoned Facility, Graveyard Cliffside etc.
Hot take: SS needs to be moved up, BTR needs to be moved down.
Wild Savannah pre-agility had a notorious reputation for being considered comparable to Gloomy Manor back in 2017-18 lol
BM sure is easier than IP and SC but I’ll have to disagree on it being easier than DD and SSH tbf DD is PC it’s difficulty maybe even easier many have beaten that map in like 5 attempts as for SSH that ones is a lil more understandable why you think it’s harder but the difficulty is like BARELY easier than BM one of the main reasons why you may think BM is one of the easiest is because that was the 1st crazy in FE2 so obviously allot of people have played it getting so used to it. That’s what I think tho I respect your opinion and get why you think those difficulties are inaccurate I had the same at 1st till I redid a few of em again and figured out some are easier ESPECIALLY Desolated Domain other than that some of the star ratings are very inaccurate take Chaoz Japan for example… (5.0) Like what?! Let’s keep it a buck.
Dark sci-facility is as difficult as Satomi springs....
THIS ALSO MAKES NO SENSE
Easy and Hard maps and ST has the most weird star ratings.
Buried Oasis is a hard easy, so it should be 4.7-4.8. Lost Woods can be a 1.2-1.3 to make it more better
ST is a highlight map, but its actually a hard insane, but the 4.2 ratings dosen't have much sense
*4.7-4.8*
Tbh the star ratings are trash. They are not even accurate on some maps like snowy stronghold and some others as well as the hardest maps (not crazy) have lower star ratings.
W Ev
I was thinking that choas Japan was a absurd because at one time the ranking was 5 stars ⭐️
it's because crazy didn't set the star rating yet despite it being rated 5.6 in cm
i stand by the fact that magmatic mines is too easy for a 4.5, but i wouldnt go as far as saying that it's easier than fm. fm is the easiest in my opinion
you are in my server rn i hope... yay a heart :D
I feel like submerging coastland was a 5.1-5.2 because it is pretty easy imo
Blue moon is harder than sandswept ruin because of lava wall and blocky crate
Dang, no mention about graveyard cliffside
back 😎
okay turns out it did get buffed. the rest of this comment is INVALID and STUPID.
Shroomhaven temple is honestly made out to be much harder. I beat it in like 3 tries to solo, my friends beat it first try when I pushed the buttons afterwards (at least in FE2CM, idk if it got buffed recently). It's a lot easier than people made it out to be... none of us had even seen the map before we'd played it. It shouldn't be 4.2, but it should NOT be 4.9.
I think You're most subjective youtuber in FE2.
I heard a ping at 4:57 is that some Serect thing 😂
Prob just FE2 disco stuff, you're overthinking it a little bit buddy
There was also highlight chaoz japan, which was rated 5.0(?)
I hope that was a mistake lol
i think all highlights during that time were just set to .0 variants
@@whatgoeshere24it is
Invalid argument, typo at 7:08 it should be 5.2 not 4.2 😄 /j
Yeah I agree
So who decided to put chaoz Japan A 5.0??
chaoz japan prob has the worst rating for its difficulty like a 5.0 for a level like that is insane
chaoz was a 5.6
I-In M-My opinion…🥺 lost woods is V-Very hard! I died on it 23 times!
Magmatic mines is easy bc of the SHORTCUTS imo
didn't u know that lost wood was the first map ever created in 2017 releasted fe2
You forgot Graveyard Cliffside, it should not be 3.1
It is. Lava slow and mostly you have a land saving from falling into lava.
for me forgotten tombs is the hardest normal
am i the only one who thinks relic valley being a 3.9 makes no sense
i agree i think poisonous forest is the hardest hard
Snowy peaks should be 3.1
¡those rankings are easy to bypass if you have a large number of players!. the only difficult thing is to make the maps without help
My guy where is sinking ship 😡😡😡😡😡😡😡
There’s no way you actually said there’s an insane map easier than Familiar Ruins
because magmatic mines IS easier than familiar ruins
No familiar ruins obstacles is easier than magmaticmines, and familiar ruins is also quite short
You forgot BCP 🤦♂️
Sky sanctuary is the worst rating. It’s a 2.4 for me.
one fall = almost certain death
Some maps in fe2 are ranked wrong
Bro sd is a 5.3 not a 5.4 like bm
avm 4.9
based
you forgot Blooming Lagoon, from 2.4 to 3.8 please!!! 😅😂