Windows 11 For Not-New Computers: TPM Compatibility Guide

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  • Опубликовано: 21 авг 2024

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  • @ThioJoe
    @ThioJoe  3 года назад +1942

    Shoutout to microsoft for literally changing the requirements even further while I was editing

    • @Jacob9335wastaken
      @Jacob9335wastaken 3 года назад +13

      Lol

    • @EyeOfThe_God
      @EyeOfThe_God 3 года назад +78

      Yes tpm is shit feature in 11

    • @brokeandtired
      @brokeandtired 3 года назад +119

      I will just run Win 10 till PC dies....MS just f***ed themselves.

    • @brokeandtired
      @brokeandtired 3 года назад +34

      I have a 10th gen Intel that's now obsolecent

    • @bx19tgd
      @bx19tgd 3 года назад +6

      trolled

  • @witcher3videogame854
    @witcher3videogame854 3 года назад +544

    The idea of being a laptop from 2015 being too old, is just crazy.

    • @oksowhat
      @oksowhat 3 года назад +36

      haha, my lappy is from 2011

    • @arnoldboyco8711
      @arnoldboyco8711 3 года назад +25

      The steps necessary to remove the "Secure Boot" and "TPM 2.0" requirements error when attempting to install Windows 11 Consumer Preview
      1. Obtain the newest available Windows 10 ISO from Micro$0ft;
      2. Already have made your Windows 11 USB Installer using Rufus;
      3. Mount Windows 10 ISO;
      4. Find and locate the folder named Sources on the mounted ISO;
      5. Copy all of the files in the Sources folder of the mounted ISO except for install.wim/install.esd;
      6. Navigate to the Windows 11 bootable USB Installer that you have previously created in your File
      Manager;
      7. Open the Sources folder on the Windows 11 bootable USB Installer;
      8. Paste the previously copied contents/files from the Sources folder on the mounted Win 10 ISO to the Sources folder of the Windows 11 bootable USB Installer, and make sure to replace the files present in the Windows 11 USB Installer Sources folder;
      9. Boot from Windows 11 USB Installer;
      10. Profit from not having the requirements of Secure Boot and TPM 2.0 being enabled in place.

    • @torcheddreadnought899
      @torcheddreadnought899 3 года назад +3

      @@arnoldboyco8711 is it really that easy? I haven't messed with it yet.

    • @webcomment8895
      @webcomment8895 3 года назад +13

      You have until 2025 to upgrade. It will definitely be very old in 2025. Nobody has to upgrade this year.

    • @bluephantom786
      @bluephantom786 3 года назад

      @Nicole Watterson what is the model?

  • @weepgamer
    @weepgamer 3 года назад +227

    My weak laptop is supported but my powerful desktop is not
    Thanks MS!

    • @Katzelle3
      @Katzelle3 3 года назад +6

      What is your processor

    • @AK-tf3fc
      @AK-tf3fc 3 года назад +28

      Mine too. My i7 7th gen can't be upgraded while my i3 8th gen laptop can.

    • @weepgamer
      @weepgamer 3 года назад +13

      @@Katzelle3 8th gen i5 + integrated in laptop, 4th gen i5 + 1050ti in desktop

    • @KaMo1177
      @KaMo1177 3 года назад +8

      My powerful laptop isn't supported. I got your luck in the worst way :D 1050TI + i5 7th Gen. LOL

    • @warehousetechtips
      @warehousetechtips 3 года назад +4

      amd ryzen 5 4500u supports while ryzen 7 does not what the heck. good that i use ryzen 5 4500u

  • @SpartanWolf222
    @SpartanWolf222 3 года назад +102

    This sounds like a whole lot of confusion meant to scare customers into, at worst, not adopting Windows 11 or, at best, force them to buy a new computer just to meet the requirements.

    • @robertrudick2492
      @robertrudick2492 3 года назад +3

      Absolutely! I agree with ur consensus. One big Ball of Confusion that's what Microsoft is causing the technology field.

    • @MetalTrabant
      @MetalTrabant 3 года назад +1

      They're partners with a lot of hardware manufacturers, of course they're gonna do shady deals like this to spin up hardware sales... they're M$ afterall.
      This was probably the main reason they changed from the rolling release of Win 10 to actually releasing a new version. You can't sell the same thing for decades in capitalism...

    • @ms4kchannel416
      @ms4kchannel416 3 года назад

      now every one wants to use windows 11 hahahahaaaaaa people are killing themselves just to get windows 11 especially me i use my whole night on how to install windows 11

    • @gruv2nz
      @gruv2nz 3 года назад +2

      True, I think they want people to buy new computers.

    • @missmyredwolf
      @missmyredwolf 2 года назад

      Yeah, I also like how they "cushion" the pain and say......" Don't worry, we have your WINS 10 back until 2025. " SO WHAT.

  • @Noschool100
    @Noschool100 3 года назад +553

    I'm surprised they even made that a requirement, they were offering windows 10 for 32 bit like a decade after that was obsolete.

    • @antishulk
      @antishulk 3 года назад +59

      same. windows 10 on minimum hardware is way to low tbh it would basically be torture now windows 11 has way higher and my computer which can run most modern games fine cant even run windows 11 from what i understand.

    • @namadiakoko8429
      @namadiakoko8429 3 года назад +5

      @Leii OPERATING SYSTEM SOFT WARR BEGIN

    • @xXmlgamingXx355
      @xXmlgamingXx355 3 года назад +11

      @@antishulk this actually gives me higher hopes for windows 11. If its requirements are so high, it must be really good.

    • @NeonzGamingYT
      @NeonzGamingYT 3 года назад +6

      @@antishulk btw im try running win 10 lite on low end spec and its running very good like windows 7

    • @Subhrajyoti
      @Subhrajyoti 3 года назад +2

      ​@@antishulk honestly speaking
      i understand they should have supported it but now its time to upgrade also
      a macOS also needs very high specs to run properly and if they gave update and it does not run then they will get abuses like cd projekt red got

  • @Ganerrr
    @Ganerrr 3 года назад +836

    yea no, either someone mods this out or im not switching, only reason i would switch to 11 is for rumored speed increases

    • @loksi.
      @loksi. 3 года назад +13

      yeah same

    • @BackwardSabotage
      @BackwardSabotage 3 года назад +201

      This is too much extra requirements for something that's basically a windows 10 reskin right now.

    • @Ganerrr
      @Ganerrr 3 года назад +33

      @@BackwardSabotage exactly

    • @iver1343
      @iver1343 3 года назад +10

      tell me a reason why you wouldn't switch if you could.

    • @CynderPCTech
      @CynderPCTech 3 года назад +5

      @@BackwardSabotage oooo a marty robbins fan

  • @kromanoidx
    @kromanoidx 3 года назад +91

    Microsoft: Upgrade your PC
    Current Objective: Survive

  • @JxH
    @JxH 3 года назад +17

    Me watching this on my trusty old 2010 laptop.
    Update to add details for anyone interested: Lenovo T510 Thinkpad (2010) bought used in 2014 for about $300. Swapped in an SSD, as well as a BluRay drive to watch movies on disc (DVD & BluRay). Still running Win 7 Pro in the vain hope that Microsoft will eventually follow through with no more endless updates. I've been using it 8h/day for Work From Home since March 2020, and watching RUclips in the evening. If it ever breaks, I'll buy another. Cheers.

    • @KaMo1177
      @KaMo1177 3 года назад +2

      I myself had a 2007 laptop which I used in college with me, fully operational with Windows 7, up until 2 years ago. Good on you, taking such care of the laptop.

  • @donaldclark5804
    @donaldclark5804 3 года назад +638

    Bruh we're in the middle of a chip shortage and windows is like get a new cpu

    • @mrtuk4282
      @mrtuk4282 3 года назад +16

      And Linux of course :)

    • @ThaTruFily
      @ThaTruFily 3 года назад +1

      Elitists no doubt :/

    • @kensmith5694
      @kensmith5694 3 года назад +29

      @@mrtuk4282
      You mean to say "or Linux". We can stop making a lot of ewaste just by giving people with old computers bootable USBs with Linux on them. For most people, a computer that is a decade or so old running Linux does what they need a computer to do.

    •  3 года назад +8

      Get a new Motherboard and CPU. LOL

    • @kkppelot6270
      @kkppelot6270 3 года назад +23

      @ not all people can get a new motherboard and cpu LOL

  • @FrancGorenc
    @FrancGorenc 3 года назад +292

    The next major version of Windows (12) would probably require a quantum computer because regular bits just won't do.

    • @mh7a135
      @mh7a135 3 года назад +31

      Windows 12 will require NASA super computer, lol.

    • @namesurname4666
      @namesurname4666 3 года назад +7

      windows 12 only available on surface just like android betas

    • @belovedtruth3447
      @belovedtruth3447 3 года назад +15

      @@mh7a135 I hear NASA uses computers with Pentium 4 processors and 2gb Ram and Intel integrated graphics card!

    • @txe1nd
      @txe1nd 3 года назад +3

      @@belovedtruth3447 lol

    • @redghost433
      @redghost433 3 года назад

      That’s the Windows 12r2 feature.

  • @saloooki2
    @saloooki2 3 года назад +29

    Just got Ubuntu installed and it is working great, I'm even managing to run my Windows games on it with a few workarounds. Not sure if I want to use Windows anyway.

    • @saloooki2
      @saloooki2 3 года назад +4

      @dingus mcgee Linux isn't as user friendly as Windows, which means that you need to be quite technically adept to use it properly. That's the main drawback of it right now, but I can see ZorinOS and such becoming more mainstream.

    • @Budjarn
      @Budjarn 3 года назад +1

      I prefer Manjaro; more intuitive package management

    • @saloooki2
      @saloooki2 3 года назад +2

      @@Budjarn Yeah, lots of people like Manjaro. I'll have to give it a go at some point.

    • @VibrantRaven
      @VibrantRaven 3 года назад +1

      @@saloooki2 I'm an arch linux user kekw

    • @saloooki2
      @saloooki2 3 года назад +2

      @@VibrantRaven I thought arch users were meant to say "I use Arch btw" 🤔

  • @rsinistic
    @rsinistic 3 года назад +1

    You absolute gent !!! Running a ryzen 7 3700x and my board supports ftpm .Enabled it and now installing Windows 11 !! Saved me 50 quid ! Iwas literally about to purchase one

  • @baherkamalmusic
    @baherkamalmusic 3 года назад +235

    People: My PC can't run Windows 11.
    Meanwhile me: My PC can't run the PC health check app.

    • @cyberp0et
      @cyberp0et 3 года назад +7

      Your PC will perfectly run Linux.

    • @iamb0
      @iamb0 3 года назад +7

      same i have windows 8.1 lmaoo

    • @baherkamalmusic
      @baherkamalmusic 3 года назад +1

      @Levente Kolcsar I can't even install it.

    • @leDespicable
      @leDespicable 3 года назад

      It ran on my PC once, when I tried to start it again it said something about installing an update, and after the progress bar finished it just closed itself and that was that...

    • @kensmith5694
      @kensmith5694 3 года назад +1

      @@cyberp0et ... and depending on the distro go much faster. Some versions of linux are "spooky fast"

  • @nayan9672
    @nayan9672 3 года назад +535

    So this is what nadella meant by saying new economic opportunities for manufacturers

    • @Subhrajyoti
      @Subhrajyoti 3 года назад +15

      lol

    • @trolldrums4u
      @trolldrums4u 3 года назад +5

      during win10 launch they said only particular cpu can only run 10, then they changed it

    • @Subhrajyoti
      @Subhrajyoti 3 года назад

      @@nayan9672 will removing rpm requirement enable to run the win11 smoothly

    • @Subhrajyoti
      @Subhrajyoti 3 года назад +2

      @@nayan9672 hmm then I guess they should remove it
      I spent 120 dollars for windows 10 upgrade actually
      They charge hefty amount for it

    • @trolldrums4u
      @trolldrums4u 3 года назад

      bro we can do it my enter some file i wil link you,

  • @jacky6052
    @jacky6052 3 года назад +6

    He went from How to double ur graphics performance to being a actual tech RUclipsr proud of you Joe

  • @gsusfrk333
    @gsusfrk333 3 года назад +16

    Now my PC says I just have an unsupported processor instead of the the missing TPM.

    • @kzpeanut7967
      @kzpeanut7967 2 года назад

      So now what. I want to upgrade too

  • @_SJ
    @_SJ 3 года назад +356

    People: Watching ThioJoe talking
    Me: Staring at the beautiful LED lights setup behind him

    • @SunIsLost
      @SunIsLost 3 года назад +3

      lol

    • @ronaldmango6836
      @ronaldmango6836 3 года назад +2

      Gaming setup

    • @belovedtruth3447
      @belovedtruth3447 3 года назад +3

      @@ronaldmango6836 it don't necessarily have to be that, you can just buy some LED lights on Ebay and fit em all around your room and voila!

    • @ronaldmango6836
      @ronaldmango6836 3 года назад +1

      @@belovedtruth3447 Also makes sense.

  • @mareksinister
    @mareksinister 3 года назад +288

    If they actually go through TPM being a requirement and only supporting 8th gen or newer, they might as well call it Vista 2 and have it flop even worse than Vista originally did.

    • @Parth_Soni
      @Parth_Soni 3 года назад +13

      bruh, ran it on my core 2 duo. every thing is made up sh!t. just replace some windows 11 iso files with windows 10 iso files and voila windows 11 baby

    • @TrioLOLGamers
      @TrioLOLGamers 3 года назад +32

      It will flop if there will be this requirement: school PCs are old, lots of PCs in companies are 5+ older. So they will kill Windows 11.

    • @abhitour1
      @abhitour1 3 года назад +1

      exactly what i was thinking

    • @just4playing46
      @just4playing46 3 года назад +14

      @@TrioLOLGamers there is no reason why companys and schools are updating to win11. They will just stick on win10 because their whole tech infrastructure is built on it.

    • @JM-dq7xn
      @JM-dq7xn 3 года назад +3

      Linux ahoy

  • @onedrop3713
    @onedrop3713 3 года назад +12

    They have had similar requirements before.... they ended up making some features optional that required TPM.
    Don't sweat it. Microsoft wants more customers not less.

    • @abjectt5440
      @abjectt5440 3 года назад +1

      I think the vast base of users don't need TPM. That would be more for large users. Businesses. Government.

  • @Alan-ur9jo
    @Alan-ur9jo 3 года назад +30

    I switched from 10 to Linux after an update rendered my laptops touchpad and wi-fi useless. I don't care how many new versions Microsoft release, I'm never going back to Windows.

    • @shis10
      @shis10 3 года назад +1

      Yeah same here. I switched to Ubuntu Linux recently.

    • @infd13
      @infd13 3 года назад +2

      Everything will be on Linux mint for 2025.

    • @vampirethespiderbatgod9740
      @vampirethespiderbatgod9740 2 года назад

      It's easy to move to Linux if your work can be done on Linux. If the software you need is only available on Win or MacOS, can't do that.

  • @Tim.Stotelmeyer
    @Tim.Stotelmeyer 3 года назад +209

    Sounds like computer manufactures might behind Microsoft breaking their "Windows 10 will be the last OS" stance. They needed a way to force people to buy new computers and Microsoft obliged with the TPM requirement. If you want Windows 11 then you need to buy a new computer.

    • @Valcuda
      @Valcuda 3 года назад +30

      Windows 10 was never meant to ve the final Windows.
      From the start, we knew it was gonna be discontinued in 2025. There's only one instance of Microsoft 'saying' it would be the last, even then tho, they never directly said it.
      The news reported it being the last version of Windows cause that's gonna get more clicks then "Windows 10 has been released"

    • @kornkernel2232
      @kornkernel2232 3 года назад +22

      @@Valcuda Yeah, and also "Windows as a service" still applies now. If the hardware is compatible, people using Windows 10 can simply get upgrade for free to Windows 11, through Windows Updates. As if its just another big feature update, but with different marketing name. We technically get new version of Windows during Windows 10 era, Microsoft just never called with a different version of Windows but just another "Update".

    • @Matt_328
      @Matt_328 3 года назад +31

      I'm not going to buy a new PC just for a new Win10 skin.

    • @Subhrajyoti
      @Subhrajyoti 3 года назад +1

      @@Matt_328 how old is ur pc

    • @Matt_328
      @Matt_328 3 года назад +7

      @@Subhrajyoti not that old, it runs win10 perfecly so yeah, if I can upgrade, cool, if I can't, that's cool too.

  • @baldarama
    @baldarama 3 года назад +183

    Maybe someone will develop a boot loader that emulates tpm, if they were able to emulate Apple SMC for hackintosh they probably can emulate TPM

    • @Parth_Soni
      @Parth_Soni 3 года назад +5

      bruh I ran it my on core 2 duo e8400 , gt 730 runs like a charm

    • @joshuasantiago3526
      @joshuasantiago3526 3 года назад +2

      @@Parth_Soni Damn Im tempted now

    • @cristianitsirc6830
      @cristianitsirc6830 3 года назад +4

      @ཀཱ "what's your point?". You're a special kind, aren't you? :P

    • @apple_unlocking_services3004
      @apple_unlocking_services3004 3 года назад +5

      so with me playing with win 11
      it looks you need the TPM thing only to install the windows for the first time, lets say you have hard drive has full win 11 installed on it, once you install this drive on any computer without TPM support at all, as long it has UEFI mode, you should be fine & the win 11 will run just fine

    • @KMon1111IND
      @KMon1111IND 3 года назад +2

      @@Parth_Soni Ok noob you don't need to spam every comment.

  • @chewylandlive
    @chewylandlive 3 года назад

    7 year old Thinkcenter, USB baremetal install, TPM 1.2. Took about 2 minutes to install, one reboot…Buttery and silky and completely trouble free. Brilliant.

  • @tairdudeusa7981
    @tairdudeusa7981 2 года назад

    I purchased a Chromebox with an i7 processor, and I see very clearly, I have no need for Micrsoft Windows any longer. I was very pleased to see that they now run most Android apps and connect to my portable hard drives allowing me to access older files. I was a little disappointed to see that they don't work with my CD drives, however I realized I have not touched them in at least 2 years. It is as stable, dependable, and hassle-free as my Android phone and I love it. I was a Windows user since 1998 so it's time to move along.

  • @MichaelOKeefe2009
    @MichaelOKeefe2009 3 года назад +44

    Man these requirements for Win11 is basically the Windows Vista fiasco all over again!

    • @rockzs74r
      @rockzs74r 3 года назад +3

      It's a common theme windows have the good bad good bad pattern.

    • @redghost433
      @redghost433 3 года назад +1

      But wait til you see Windows 12

    • @Diegothefox-q6s
      @Diegothefox-q6s 3 года назад

      ya this is getting stupid

    • @killermoon635
      @killermoon635 3 года назад +1

      Windows Vista is not even bad OS. Never been. However, it was released too early and most people did not have powerful enough PC with enough RAM to run it well
      WIndows 7 came out 3 years later and it was just as demanding, but people have better PC and RAM when windows 7 came out. So thats why most people did not have performance issue with windows 7 unlike Vista

  • @EddyGraphic
    @EddyGraphic 3 года назад +66

    This requirement has the potential to make Windows 11 a second Windows Vista, this will render a lot of PCs obsolete for no reason since most PCs meet every other minimum requirement except for this.

    • @akarahexels677
      @akarahexels677 3 года назад +6

      I don't think TPM isn't the issue, since what doesn't let my computer be upgradable is the CPU (which has TPM).

    • @nargwhal
      @nargwhal 3 года назад +13

      there about to put stickers on pre builds and laptops saying Windows 11 Compatible LMFAOOOO

    • @nargwhal
      @nargwhal 3 года назад +1

      @John Doe jokes on you support ends in five fucking years meaning you cant even use chrome

    • @fortynine3225
      @fortynine3225 3 года назад +2

      It looks like TPM 1.2 is the minimum for Windows 11 but is unsupported TPM 2.0 (available in computers since 2015) is. So if you do not have TPM1.2 you can forget about Windows 11...unless you use some tricks that is...which already on the net and we will see better and easyer ones coming years.. google ''How to install Windows 11 without TPM 2.0 Winaerocom''
      I totally agree TPM, which a lot of people will not use nor care about, is microsoft trolling computer users.

    • @hans-joachimbierwirth4727
      @hans-joachimbierwirth4727 3 года назад

      @@nargwhal Do i have to tell you, where you can shove that support?

  • @MisterFastbucks
    @MisterFastbucks 3 года назад +1

    One other thing to check: If you have a 6th or 7th Gen Intel system, some manufacturers offer flash updates that will upgrade your TPM 1.2 chip to the 2.0 specification. Check the manufacturer's driver download area and see if there is a TPM 2.0 firmware update.

  • @Alex-un5tl
    @Alex-un5tl 3 года назад +10

    I am more concerned about intel core gen 8 as a minimum requirement than the TPM

    • @katakisLives
      @katakisLives 2 года назад

      I think a lot of people who are falling foul of the upgrade are doing so because of the CPU issue

  • @MarcuStar745XD
    @MarcuStar745XD 3 года назад +91

    > Old computer
    > 2015
    Jeez dude, next year we're gonna start calling 2020 old at this rate...

    • @raawesome3851
      @raawesome3851 3 года назад +5

      That's 5 years ago. That's decently old.
      That's when the 1000 series came out, I believe.

    • @MarcuStar745XD
      @MarcuStar745XD 3 года назад +28

      @@raawesome3851 personally I consider a product to be old when it reaches 10 years old, so 2015 still seems pretty close to me

    • @raawesome3851
      @raawesome3851 3 года назад +3

      @@MarcuStar745XD by 10 years old, if you haven't upgraded, you're kind of stuck, unless you just want basic tasks done.

    • @Subhrajyoti
      @Subhrajyoti 3 года назад +2

      @@MarcuStar745XD bro 10 years old is like grandfather
      i consider a product old when it is more than 5 years or 6 years old

    • @Subhrajyoti
      @Subhrajyoti 3 года назад +1

      @@0w3nn its minecraft
      run call of duty then say it

  • @Francois_L_7933
    @Francois_L_7933 3 года назад +329

    This is typical Microsoft. I find it a bit funny when I see that one of their Surface computers that sells right now for close to 4000$ is on the list of unsupported devices!

    • @pilotavery
      @pilotavery 3 года назад +4

      It will still work fine...

    • @googlewolly
      @googlewolly 3 года назад +13

      @@pilotavery Not necessarily. If they force you to have TPM 2.0, for example, it won't let Windows 11 install without it. There is virtually always a workaround with respect to computers, but that's not the point.

    • @pilotavery
      @pilotavery 3 года назад

      @@googlewolly they've changed the requirements to TPM 1.2, which means just about every computer since 2005...

    • @googlewolly
      @googlewolly 3 года назад +11

      @@pilotavery Firstly, no, they didn't. They actually did the opposite and removed the "soft" requirement of 1.2. I just checked, and 2.0 is a requirement. Secondly, I used "not necessarily" because my main point was with reference to if 2.0 remains a requirement.

    • @pilotavery
      @pilotavery 3 года назад +3

      @@googlewolly 2.0 is a hard requirement, but it will work on 1.2.
      The thing people need to understand is when they get a list of processors, those are the list of processors that is guaranteed to work on it. Because they have TPM built in.
      Unsupported processors, like 5th gen intel, definitely still work, it's just they can't guarantee that you didn't buy the crappiest of motherboards or that you didn't get a cheap knockoff brand Chinese laptop that does not integrate any of these.
      I have a Dell from 2007 with a TPM chip, at that point Dell only included them on about 40% of their laptops and all of their low-end consumer just omitted it but they still have a connector on the laptop motherboard for it.
      In 2012, dell started putting them on all of their laptops and in 2013 HP did as well.
      It's pretty difficult to find a computer without it, and frankly, it doesn't deserve to run Windows, especially if the OS requires secure boot.
      Windows does not need to be backwards compatible forever. Windows XP did not run on a 16-bit processor and Windows 7 did not run on 128 megabytes of ram.
      If everybody complained that everyone made their computer obsolete by requiring Windows XP to have a 32-bit processor and not run on 16-bit, I would just laugh my ass off because of course it's going to require that, it's a new technology that's been around for long enough.
      TPM has been around since before 2008, and they've become pretty much ubiquitous since 2014. Even Android since Android 7, requires a TPM chip on every single phone. Even the crappiest of phones, are required to include a TPM chip in order to be certified for Google Play services. There are some exceptions, but those exceptions are in China that don't have access to Google Play store.

  • @longkimnguon9999
    @longkimnguon9999 Год назад +1

    I had a laptop which was luckily created in 2018 (Latitude 3400 ) with a TPM and Secure boot. It uses Intel UHD Graphics 620 and Intel Core i5 8th Gen which also meets the system requirements.
    Of course, I understand how TPM works and why Microsoft did this to Windows 11. Since more hackers began to blow up on Windows more than Linux, the team tried to follow the Linux's style by improving security.

  • @jaypormei1881
    @jaypormei1881 3 года назад +1

    I'm so happy with my Celeron N3060 laptop from 2016, it has TPM 2.0 installed on the motherboard and it also comes with TPM 1.2 support on the datasheet.

  • @FubarMike
    @FubarMike 3 года назад +30

    TPM is such a bs requirement. I hope windows 11 is what finally pushes many people to linux so devs will start making linux versions of mainstream software and windows can slowly die off as the remaining 4 years or so of windows 10 support run out.

    • @Codyslx
      @Codyslx 3 года назад +1

      Now, I'm kinda glad its that high, better security for us.

    • @FubarMike
      @FubarMike 3 года назад +1

      @@iceangelx22 I have been fine. I have a windows 7 machine I will probably continue to use until I can no longer find a web browser that works on it. I haven't been hacked in that situation either. All you need to be safe is a little common sense.

    • @ArtfulCosumDust
      @ArtfulCosumDust 3 года назад +7

      @@iceangelx22 The average user likely wouldn't want to deal with the bios and shit, so most likely Mac's will be on the rise again.

    • @cacodemon345
      @cacodemon345 3 года назад +2

      Linux won't see higher adoption until kernel-based anti-cheat solutions can actually work.

    • @hans-joachimbierwirth4727
      @hans-joachimbierwirth4727 3 года назад +2

      Windows happened. We actually USE our computers.
      The only thing worse than Microsoft are fanboys.

  • @MandolinSashaank
    @MandolinSashaank 3 года назад +102

    This really hurts. Just because of that ONE requirement my PC can't be upgraded. Smhhh

    • @venomgeorge3692
      @venomgeorge3692 3 года назад +1

      which processor you have(with gen)

    • @MandolinSashaank
      @MandolinSashaank 3 года назад +17

      @@venomgeorge3692 Mine is Intel Core i7 4790s basically a 4th Gen processor. Surprisingly my processor was not in the list of supported processors not just for Windows 11 but even for Windows 10, 8 and 7 on that website. But my PC runs Windows 10 21H1 smoothly. It's really confusing what they have mentioned there though.

    • @cubebuilder_
      @cubebuilder_ 3 года назад +16

      @@MandolinSashaank I have the same cpu, the i7-4790 is still a great CPU in 2021 and I'm very disappointed that I cannot upgrade, even with secure boot and UEFI turned on my computer cannot upgrade. Microsoft better do something about this or else Windows 11 will be the next Vista

    • @MandolinSashaank
      @MandolinSashaank 3 года назад +7

      @@cubebuilder_ Totally agree with you. Honestly with just one feature making upgrade impossible is kinda disappointing. Hopefully they change their decision.

    • @pilotavery
      @pilotavery 3 года назад

      @@cubebuilder_ Yeah... While AMD was putting TPM in all cpus since 2012, Intel forces the motherboard maker to include it so they cost 2x as much for the motherboard.
      You can add a TPM to most desktops.

  • @3DJapan
    @3DJapan 3 года назад +1

    Did the quick test and found my 2017 laptop is good to go but my desktop from 2014 gave the error so I'll have to look into that one.

  • @cmasscmass
    @cmasscmass 9 месяцев назад +1

    i WAS FIGHTING THIS tpm THING BUT IN THE END IT'S BETTER JUST TO UPGRADE AND YOU'LL STILL BE ABLE TO USE MOST OF YOUR PARTS AND STILL HAVE A hIGH-eND rIG. sO WHAT YOU NEED IS THE MOTHERBOARD, CPU AND RAM. DEPENDING ON WHAT HARDWARE YOU HAVE NOW. SPENDING JUST UNDER $500.00 YOU I END UP WITH A NICE HIGH-END RIG.

  • @riteshgarg
    @riteshgarg 3 года назад +43

    Microsoft and intel might have planned for this obsecelence of pre 8th gen Intel CPUs..... This is not a good move

    • @riteshgarg
      @riteshgarg 3 года назад +4

      @JustVictor 17 Intel always wanted to be Apple

    • @PhillHorrocks
      @PhillHorrocks 3 года назад

      My 8th gen Intel 8705 isn't supported...

    • @SteveDonev
      @SteveDonev 3 года назад +2

      To play devils advocate here, pre 2018 4 core cpus were the standard, then 6 cores took over in 2018. So this will effectively push all gaming PCs to 6 core and lead to better 6+ core optimization by game devs. So it might be a blessing in disguise

    • @cqwickedwake7651
      @cqwickedwake7651 3 года назад +2

      Year of the linux, this time its true, watch the revolt bros

    • @zeniktorres4320
      @zeniktorres4320 3 года назад

      There is no doubt about that. It's all about the money.

  • @BinaryRhyme.JackOfArts
    @BinaryRhyme.JackOfArts 3 года назад +38

    Worth noting that the tool tells you you can't run Windows 11 if your CPU is < 8th gen, as well; but it is a soft floor.

    • @AppyTheApe
      @AppyTheApe 3 года назад +1

      What about R5 sir? Does it support the upgrade? I'm quite dumb when it comes to tech do u mind if I ask for some info?

    • @himesakaloli7104
      @himesakaloli7104 3 года назад

      @@AppyTheApe Ryzen 2nd Gen is supported, you can see the supported Cpu's list in the Microsoft page. I have a 7th gen intel cpu and is a shame that "I can't run" windows 11

    • @BenTiredson
      @BenTiredson 3 года назад

      if you are talking about the Ryzen 5 yes it is compatible but requires a bios update if you are on that the same bios since 2017 to 2018 especially the x370 and b350 motherboards.

    • @bobcarn
      @bobcarn 3 года назад +5

      They changed that document. They now say you need 8th-gen and there is no "soft floor".

    • @SweatyFeetGirl
      @SweatyFeetGirl 3 года назад +1

      yea this is all fake news. Only New PCs that are sold with windows 11 are not allowed to have older than 8th gen intel or older than 2000 ryzen processors built in. you can still use a lot older CPUs than this

  • @kevinleblanc47
    @kevinleblanc47 2 года назад

    Man I can dig a guy who stops the show and admits an error right on for you and me Thanks for sharing your knowledge.

  • @dexterjones7187
    @dexterjones7187 3 года назад +3

    Fantastic video! You covered all the bases. Thank you for doing the research for the rest of us. Much appreciated!

  • @MikaelKKarlsson
    @MikaelKKarlsson 3 года назад +153

    People are running around arms flailing, but Windows 10 will be fine for years.

    • @QuickBits
      @QuickBits 3 года назад +31

      2025

    • @x-coin0420
      @x-coin0420 3 года назад +24

      2025 that's it

    • @NeseComedy
      @NeseComedy 3 года назад +25

      4 year's isn't really a lot for companies and schools, if that CPU compatibility list is really a requirement that means every Windows workstation with a CPU older than 5 years will not receive security updates anymore and has to be replaced, that's millions of perfectly fine machines that even meet the TPM requirement but still have to be thrown out. If nobody wants to buy them (because they are only good for Linux PCs or servers after that) the parts will land in the trash for no reason.

    • @malrofo
      @malrofo 3 года назад +6

      I still use 7

    • @hans-joachimbierwirth4727
      @hans-joachimbierwirth4727 3 года назад +6

      Windows 7 is fine for years to come.

  • @SteenG3yL
    @SteenG3yL 3 года назад +28

    I'm running a Z97 Mobo with a 4790K in it for the last 5-6 years. It still works like a charm, does everything I need it to do and paired with a decent GPU I can game like anyone else.
    I'll be damned I'm going to throw all that out because it doesn't have TPM. No Windows 11 for me I guess

    • @johnc2438
      @johnc2438 3 года назад +3

      I guess you'll have to take a "loser" ticket. Line forms behind me! 😎

    • @Mantis4
      @Mantis4 3 года назад +1

      Lmao same my 4790k is still great there is no reason to make people throw it away and make more waste

    • @liketheninja8658
      @liketheninja8658 3 года назад

      4.8 ghz 4790k still trucks like a lot of the more recent stuff

    • @mikes9939
      @mikes9939 3 года назад +1

      You are so correct on the 4790K. Same deal for me and I ain't changing it for windows 11 or any other windows version. The processor speed wars are over for the most part, no need for anything much faster than 4 GHZ I7 except for games that I don't play. Does not improve the Internet experience at all.

    • @a1-0za-z54
      @a1-0za-z54 2 года назад

      @Woozy
      yes, for server or home & office plus games of versions still flys, days/things will past same dinosaurces, J.Steve-gone, pc-gone2, nevermind as since 90's, not anymore genuine elite not to mention excel-till excellent top pc which will never appears again 4 good better than anything like POWER-EXTREMEd mac in 80/90's raises to NeXT-HeIGHT, eNded since 1893(famous brand sloganLike in all those ads.)

  • @vics.1176
    @vics.1176 3 года назад

    Shout out to you Joe. I've got a BEAST of a new system and I was scratching my head when PC Health Check gave me a thumbs down for a Win11 install. I was like, "WTF?" Your Video had me good to go in a few easy seconds. My UEFI BIOS is a bit different, but I found the section that fixed it. The default had it set to "Discreet" parameters (On an ASUS ROG STRIX Z390-E board, running an INTEL i9 9900k CPU). I switched it to "Firmware" (which I'm assuming was the difference between dTPM 1.2 & fTPM 2.0). Fixed. Thanks, bro.

  • @scotchwhisky6094
    @scotchwhisky6094 3 года назад +1

    Good thing I upgraded to a 10th gen intel. TPM module 2.0 fully supported after enabling PTT in BIOS. Looking forward to that Windows 11 UI when it eventually releases!

  • @darknessblades
    @darknessblades 3 года назад +95

    Why do i suddenly get Classic ThioJoe vibes,when he talks about the TPM module, hacking it by connecting 2 PC's together

    • @jakeludlow7064
      @jakeludlow7064 3 года назад +3

      Because the new specification requirements are so ridiculous it sounds like a parody

    • @kensmith5694
      @kensmith5694 3 года назад +1

      @@jakeludlow7064 Yes, clearly MS is really making this OS for the latest computers. They want to drive everyone to go buy a new machine to run the new OS.

  • @Mehdicto
    @Mehdicto 3 года назад +79

    I updated TPM 1.2 to TPM 2.0 but.... a short sad story : The processor isn't supported for Windows 11

    • @bunnies8773
      @bunnies8773 3 года назад +3

      Which CPU? I have an Ivy Bridge ThinkPad in which the TPM is supposedly updatable to 2.0 (haven't tried it yet) and if it turns out to not be compatible in the end, I'd rather not go through all that effort.

    • @akarahexels677
      @akarahexels677 3 года назад +5

      IKR. I was just about to rant about. Everyone is talking about the TPM thing. My CPU has fTPM but THEY DON'T ACCEPT MY CPU

    • @akarahexels677
      @akarahexels677 3 года назад +2

      @@micsss_ Ryzen 2000? I have a 3 2200g and it's not supported

    • @SweatyFeetGirl
      @SweatyFeetGirl 3 года назад +1

      @@micsss_ Ryzen 1000 does have TPM 2.0 built in so it should be supported too

    • @SweatyFeetGirl
      @SweatyFeetGirl 3 года назад +1

      @@micsss_ yea this is all fake news. Only New PCs that are sold with windows 11 are not allowed to have older than 8th gen intel or older than 2000 ryzen processors built in. you can still use a lot older CPUs than this

  • @aurelandreas7949
    @aurelandreas7949 3 года назад +1

    Thanks man , i just activate my TPM from bios. i have a MSI X470 Gamming plus motherboard with AMD Ryzen 7 2700X. On my Device Manager has apear Security devices with AMD PSP 3.0 Device and Trusted Platform Module 2.0. On tpm.msc now it show that the TPM is ready to use . I am so happy. I am waiting now for the update. Thanks again !

  • @dr.albekhan8640
    @dr.albekhan8640 3 года назад

    I use an ASUS H110M-cs motherboard, that does not have a dTPM built in. I use an intel i3 7th gen that has a fTPM built in. But couldn't enable it as there was no option to enable it in the bios. Turns out I had to select "firmware TPM" over "discrete TPM" manually and it did the trick. Thank you ThioJoe, I couldn't figure out this without your help.

  • @benjaminkim1
    @benjaminkim1 3 года назад +122

    This is literally why my Insider Preview tells me why I can’t download this and now there’s a solution. Thanks!

    • @madhavanand756
      @madhavanand756 3 года назад +2

      Myself too an insider, but haven't got an update of windows 11 despite it shows you meet the windows 11 requirements

    • @Jacob443
      @Jacob443 3 года назад +5

      @@madhavanand756 windows 11 builds will start rolling out to insiders next week

    • @rosify_.
      @rosify_. 3 года назад

      The insiders builds will come out later

    • @rejectt
      @rejectt 3 года назад

      @@Jacob443 gonna be in dev build?

    • @Jacob443
      @Jacob443 3 года назад

      @@rejectt yeah I would assume in the dev channel my guess is beta and lower will get windows 10 builds

  • @gavinthecrafter
    @gavinthecrafter 3 года назад +36

    Thank you so much for clarifying! I was so confused when PC Health Check said that my computer (which I thought definitely met the system requirements) "could not run windows 11". It seems that my computer most likely has a dTPM running version 2.0, so it should work; I guess it just didn't pick up on that...

    • @NatetheNintendofan
      @NatetheNintendofan 3 года назад +1

      Are you following me it seems like that stop following me you're starting to be like the ninja guy and OwO and Christopher moon

    • @crnpowerimmortal
      @crnpowerimmortal 3 года назад +1

      Check if settings in bios is enabled

    • @AndersHass
      @AndersHass 3 года назад +2

      Ye there are issues of the PC Health Check, it only approves of 8th gen intel and 2nd gen Ryzen (and newer) even if you meet all the system requirements for older CPUs.

  • @Tocsin-Bang
    @Tocsin-Bang 3 года назад +5

    I will just carry on with W10 and then maybe change OS, meanwhile I'm awaiting anti-trust cases to start appearing.

  • @ncknelson
    @ncknelson 3 года назад +3

    Incredible research bro for TPM you've gone so far with this haha

  • @shandy3025
    @shandy3025 3 года назад +124

    There's no reason to have a tpm has a requirement there are so many different ways to do the same thing

    • @royalkumar795
      @royalkumar795 3 года назад +16

      Switch to Ubuntu and install windows 11 in KVM

    • @android199ios25
      @android199ios25 3 года назад +4

      I prefer mint.

    • @royalkumar795
      @royalkumar795 3 года назад +6

      @etek what's give advantage to have TPM 2.0 to user ?

    • @eleventy-seven
      @eleventy-seven 3 года назад +5

      Only useful for Laptops that require security on the road. Enable built in full disk encryption in Manjaro is fine without TPM

    • @royalkumar795
      @royalkumar795 3 года назад

      @etek so it's something like exist in usual smartphone these days which come with Fingerprint or Iris scammer
      If future computer start to implement this it'll secure computer from other non-owner users

  • @chuckmuckamuck8001
    @chuckmuckamuck8001 3 года назад +79

    I really want to go to the Microsoft headquarters and "ask to see the manager".

    • @warehousetechtips
      @warehousetechtips 3 года назад

      yeah you will need a ryzen 5 instead of ryzen 7 to run windows 11. RIP win 11 fans

    • @zank8470
      @zank8470 3 года назад +4

      The only time for me to be an annoying Karen

    • @warehousetechtips
      @warehousetechtips 3 года назад

      @GG Gamez100 (PH) they are money hungry thats why windows 11 specs are so extreme

    • @doge5603
      @doge5603 3 года назад

      @@warehousetechtips Hardware specs are not crazy for a modern OS and for the TPM there's definitely going to be a work around.

    • @warehousetechtips
      @warehousetechtips 3 года назад

      @@doge5603 yeah but a lot of people cant run it. microsoft is soooo money hungry

  • @terminasitor769
    @terminasitor769 3 года назад +2

    It is nice to see Microsoft care about privacy. With so many working but according to them "obsolete" systems we will see record numbers in linux adoption.

  • @allthenamesrtook
    @allthenamesrtook 3 года назад +1

    You can avoid the TPM requirement all together. You need to use dism to copy an install.wim to a partition and it will skip the TPM requirement completely.

  • @MarcuStar745XD
    @MarcuStar745XD 3 года назад +110

    I really hope they put down this requirements by the time it launches :(

    • @ipengsmart
      @ipengsmart 3 года назад +3

      Yes. I hope they put this down Requirement.

    • @shreyasrao8016
      @shreyasrao8016 3 года назад +12

      And also add older processors

    • @trandinhvietdung9357
      @trandinhvietdung9357 3 года назад

      Metahuman Flash the fukin' tpm chip man

    • @shreyasrao8016
      @shreyasrao8016 3 года назад

      @Metahuman Flash so the processor is actually compatible with windows 11?

    • @NightmareWolf
      @NightmareWolf 3 года назад

      There's a way to passby it

  • @AdamKyleAnderson
    @AdamKyleAnderson 3 года назад +36

    I can see Microsoft dropping all these requirements by the time they launch W11

    • @Legion849
      @Legion849 3 года назад +7

      It lauches in December at least Microsoft said so. I expect a lot to change by the time we get a market version

    • @BenPrime010
      @BenPrime010 3 года назад +1

      i hope ur right

  • @carstorm85
    @carstorm85 3 года назад +1

    My pc, was a mid end gaming rig in 2012 so performance wise is still great (did some upgrades such as more ram and ssds) if it can't upgrade windows, I'll just use Linux eventually getting a new rig for windows.

  • @StolenJoker84
    @StolenJoker84 3 года назад +2

    I was expecting some other information. My issue isn’t the TPM (although, it was great to have pointed out the fTPM option). My issue is the CPU requirements - which right now seem to be either 8th Gen Intel, or 3rd Gen Ryzen (or equivalents). I have 2 AMD computers. One has a 3rd Gen Ryzen, so - so far - should be able to run Windows 11. The other, though, has an A10, which is on the “Not Supported” list, despite it not being that old (being released in 2016).

  • @joelkehl7633
    @joelkehl7633 3 года назад +48

    I have the surface laptop 1 from 2017 and it said mine wasn’t compatible. That’s ridiculous!

    • @Jerry4050
      @Jerry4050 3 года назад

      I got a Dell XPS from 2017 and it doesnt have TPS enable but I am glad I upgraded my motherboard and CPU for my main PC that is from 2016 to have 2020 parts, I just need a RTX graphics card to be fully complete

  • @Shawn-fq6hi
    @Shawn-fq6hi 3 года назад +32

    1:28
    Me rocking a 10 year old previous generation Intel i3 processor, checking my TPM

    • @skip741x3
      @skip741x3 3 года назад

      installed on an old mac pro 1,1

  • @theanonymous9110
    @theanonymous9110 3 года назад +1

    To install win 11 on any computer:
    1 - download windows 10 and 11 iso files...
    2 - open each iso files with 7zip and extract each one to your desktop, open the sources folder in each one and delete the big file 4gb size ( install.wim) from the windows 10 sources folder, and replace it with windows 11 install.wim from its sources folder.
    3 - download free PowerISO and open it, place all windows 10 files you extracted and now that you swapped the install.wim files with, drag and drop all files at once inside PowerISO and then click file, then save as, once box opens up to ask you where to save to, select desktop but select .iso from the drop down menu under the spot that you name it and it saves it as an ISO file to your desktop with the name you just named the file....
    4 - download Rufus for free and burn your new windows 11 onto a usb 8gb or 16gb usb stick... easy as that and install on your pc...
    All your doing is swapping the install.wim from the windows 11 iso and putting it in the windows 10 iso then using Rufus to make your install usb... works fine with no bullshitz or screwups ....

  • @Yes-me4pk
    @Yes-me4pk 3 года назад +2

    VERY helpful teaching me about AMD's fTMP in the BIOS. Thank ya!

  • @Zandercraft
    @Zandercraft 3 года назад +35

    Yeah... RIP my 2017 laptop... I'm running Windows 10 on that thing until EOS. Then I'm switching to Linux. It has a core i7-6400... Gotta love that my perfectly capable CPU is just being disqualified by Microsoft.

    • @abjectt5440
      @abjectt5440 3 года назад +1

      Have they published anything about how they selected cpu's? What if it's just a scam to force people to go out and get new hardware? I'm skeptical.

    • @Zandercraft
      @Zandercraft 3 года назад

      @@abjectt5440 They are currently allowing insiders on the Dev channel to download Windows 11 for testing so that they can collect metrics on how many people still use older processors and how it performs. That's the main complaint of people, though. There is NO specific intergenerational factor or technology (other than performance) going all the way back to 5th gen that would require this. It is, quite blatantly, a virtual limitation that appears to be a money grab since they now only profit off of new computer sales (licensed pre-installed with Windows).

    • @IronIsKing
      @IronIsKing 3 года назад

      I have an ryzen 3200g which is basically one of the minimum cpus for windows 11, thank god. RIP to the other budget gamers who cant upgrade to windows 11

    • @sulfurnitride
      @sulfurnitride 3 года назад

      If you had any cpu from Intel that's 8000 and above it would have supported it

    • @kriskruz3792
      @kriskruz3792 3 года назад

      that is a perfectly good cpu ! Linux would run smooth on it!

  • @z3razerviper
    @z3razerviper 3 года назад +81

    Mine has a 2.0 tpm however my machine has a gen 5 and for some stupid reason ms is limiting it to GEN 8 CPUs

    • @maxstark2714
      @maxstark2714 3 года назад +3

      i have i3 7th but does not have tpm but my laptop's motherboard has it but still it says processor not supported 😑

    • @danialahmad8912
      @danialahmad8912 3 года назад +15

      Same reason. Mine is 7th gen with tpm 2.0.

    • @masteroak9724
      @masteroak9724 3 года назад +3

      @Tanjiro The setup won't let you install if you don't have a gen 8. Mine is gen 4 and I managed to get a tpm chip, but the thing still says my PC can't install it.

    • @NishantSoniTV
      @NishantSoniTV 3 года назад +7

      I installed it on a single core Pentium 4 processor with 2 GB 533 Mhz RAM. it works great specially after adding old nVidia GPU to render video. Don't be a clown, all of you., just copy sources folder from win 10 ISO over to Win 11 ISO and leave Install.wim file.

    • @riccardopistocchi7028
      @riccardopistocchi7028 3 года назад +1

      I turned on tpp on my 7th gen cpu but i still get the "your pc is not compatible with w11" message from the pc health app

  • @motoryzen
    @motoryzen 3 года назад +25

    Don't ya just love it when the one OS world that should be simply plug in play is purposefully trying to make it more difficult for exactly that? Lol
    * Laughs in Linux Mint Cinnamon*

    • @AK-tf3fc
      @AK-tf3fc 3 года назад

      is that linux distro good.

    • @neal5186
      @neal5186 3 года назад

      @@AK-tf3fc yes... one of the best distros in my opinion. I actually like it better than ubuntu

  • @ronaldgovin6568
    @ronaldgovin6568 3 года назад +1

    This video was incredibly helpful. I thought I was going to have to upgrade my motherboard if I ever wanted windows 11 since my current one doesn't have a TPM header, but now that I know that it's been baked into my i9-9900k I won't need to. Thank you!!!

  • @mithrandir491
    @mithrandir491 3 года назад +139

    Such a useless feature by Microsoft (among other things) , TPM based encryption was primarily used for Bitlocker for mobile devices but its not actually needed for desktop non-business platforms. Furthermore, its a bad idea to trust proprietary encryption systems designed by Microsoft and Apple.

    • @NazmusLabs
      @NazmusLabs 3 года назад +10

      I use bitlocker without TPM. TPM is optional for bitlocker

    • @chlorobyte_projects
      @chlorobyte_projects 3 года назад +1

      @@NazmusLabs oh, okay
      What use is there then?????

    • @NazmusLabs
      @NazmusLabs 3 года назад +9

      @@chlorobyte_projects Let me clarify, BitLocker DOES require TPM by default. But you have the OPTION to use a LESS SECURE option if you don’t have TPM. You can either use BitLocker with a password that you must type every-time your PC reboots, or use a USB key, where your PC will store decryption keys, and you need to keep the USB plugged in when turning on the PC. Unplugging the USB works like a car key. No one can get into your PC.

    • @chlorobyte_projects
      @chlorobyte_projects 3 года назад +6

      @20PercentRendered Here's a hint to DRM idiotheads: if your content can be displayed on a device in any way, it can be recorded. :)

    • @wsippel
      @wsippel 3 года назад +1

      Office 365 and Azure AD can use TPMs. That's apparently the main reason for the push (or the final straw, as MS wanted to make TPMs mandatory for years now). There were a lot of issues with work from home during the pandemic, as company IT often relied on TPM, but folks suddenly had to use their home PCs or whatever cheap old garbage they could source quickly, and that caused a ton of headaches for IT guys. They had to relax their security features, but that also meant restricting access to certain data in some cases, which made working from home more difficult.

  • @fragalot
    @fragalot 3 года назад +21

    This TPM thing is going to be a big problem. I think Microsoft will eventually make it an optional requirement, as most users just don't need it. The leaked build doesn't need TPM so Microsoft could EASILY remove this requirement.

    • @akarahexels677
      @akarahexels677 3 года назад

      The leaked build isn't final. I very much doubt that they will take it out since (from my VERY SHALLOW search) that they will rely on this to increase security on the OS because... well, it's literally it's purpose.

    • @muhamadrizkyananda
      @muhamadrizkyananda 3 года назад +1

      Didn't the leaked one does need it too? It's just that leaked iso have workaround to bypass it currently

    • @Dawid8
      @Dawid8 3 года назад +1

      @@muhamadrizkyananda I think it did, so as you said, people just found ways around it

    • @sali-ali
      @sali-ali 3 года назад

      @@muhamadrizkyananda Yup the leaked iso requires it also, but as you mentioned there is a bypass and it works just fine with my 2009 Core 2 Duo iMac. I hope this bypass also works with the final version.

  • @kuroneko9710
    @kuroneko9710 3 года назад +2

    TPM is not our problem. TPM requirement is Microsoft created Microsoft's problem. Microsoft did not want to make Windows11 comfortable enough for me to use it? OK! Good bye, Windows11! Good bye, Microsoft!

  • @punditgi
    @punditgi 3 года назад +3

    Great information, as always. You are an amazing resource!

  • @tenen2105
    @tenen2105 3 года назад +116

    MS, we are in the middle of a pandemic and people getting a hard time to get a job. Let's release an OS that's not compatible with their current devices, so they can go and buy new ones. Where's the logic on this MS? 🤷🏽‍♂️

    • @antishulk
      @antishulk 3 года назад +30

      with all the cpu and gpu shortages as well

    • @ARose47
      @ARose47 3 года назад +20

      Your not obligated to update to 11 (it hasn't even been released) and Windows 10 will still get support till 2025.. idk why you're complaining

    • @kornkernel2232
      @kornkernel2232 3 года назад

      Well people can still keep using Windows 10, just like the Windows versions prior. They check the hardware anyways, so if its not compatible, you won't get it anyway. 🤷‍♂️

    • @th1nhhdk
      @th1nhhdk 3 года назад +8

      They dont care about you, they only care about money(I use arch btw)

    • @brownknight
      @brownknight 3 года назад +12

      Microsoft promised 10 to be the final version of windows. People bought it thinking it will be supported throughout now most of the people who bought it are left out in the blue without security update for their aging computer.

  • @fragalot
    @fragalot 3 года назад +62

    10:57 yep even with the SAME brand the pinouts can be different. My P9X79 motherboard has the TPM 20pin connector, but the pin outs are different from what you are showing here. Some are the same, some have different labels, and some aren't used on one but not on the other, and vice versa. So I'll be damned if I'll find the the right TPM module for my old mobo, considering it's like 9 years old now.

    • @Palmtop_User
      @Palmtop_User 3 года назад +4

      Yeah they all have different pinouts, each manufacturer has their own and some manufacturers have more than one make. Dont be fooled if the blanked out pin of another manufacturer seems the same, they can still be completely different.
      And even better due to windows 11 announcement of this requirement scalpers are doing there thing and no one can get a tpm.
      In general for your case tho id recommend searching up "[insert mobo manufacturer] tpm module" and you should find it (at least a picture so you know what to look for with current supply)

    • @joseevb04
      @joseevb04 3 года назад

      You tell me, i have a 11 years old motherboard

  • @BrunoJatczak
    @BrunoJatczak 3 года назад +1

    I tank you so much, i had a fTPM and had no idea :)

  • @seekthetruths22
    @seekthetruths22 3 года назад +12

    What a way to sell more new PCs and TPM chips!! Guess Microsoft has truckloads of money to make from this update!!

    • @ayokahbossYT
      @ayokahbossYT 3 года назад

      You pc should literally have one if it ain’t older then 5 years

  • @randamixer6473
    @randamixer6473 3 года назад +21

    Last time I was this early, windows 8 was a success

  • @IbraTech04
    @IbraTech04 3 года назад +13

    Anyone else feel like the TPM requirement was a bit much? Like 64-bit only, I get it no one uses 32-bit and even if they did God knows performance would be awful with Windows 11. UEFI and Secure Boot, sure yeah most PCs support UEFI boot anyway. But TPM 2.0? I feel like that's pushing people to buying a new PC at that point

    • @elecman748
      @elecman748 3 года назад +6

      And the 8th gen cpu is the last nail of the coffin, looks like I will don't upgrade to W11 in a long time

    • @proletarianrise10
      @proletarianrise10 3 года назад +5

      That's because that's exactly what it is, planned obsolescence in disguise. I used to defend MS when it came to old hardware that was legitimately old (10+ yrs) and rightfully called unsupported, but this is plain bullshit. My current hardware is not even 5yrs old at this point in time and it's already obsolete. Tough shit for us I guess, I won't be upgrading in a very long time, no money to upgrade to another reasonably powerful machine just to be W11 compatible.
      If this stays, it's gonna be Vista/Xbox One all over again - Xbox One because remember all the crap MS actually wanted to require back when it was originally announced. Holy shit.

    • @IbraTech04
      @IbraTech04 3 года назад +5

      @@proletarianrise10 At this point I'm just crossing my fingers Microsoft backs down on this TPM thing. I mean the public backlash they're gonna get can't be worth it

    • @proletarianrise10
      @proletarianrise10 3 года назад +5

      @@IbraTech04 Yep, especially in the current climate. An ongoing pandemic where a lot of people either lost or can't find a job anymore, and hardware shortage due to scalpers and miners? Yeah, I am sure people are rushing to make another hardware upgrade... *shakes head*

    • @jmonlive
      @jmonlive 3 года назад

      @@proletarianrise10 BET RIOTS WILL BREAK OUT...MAYBE THE MOB'S VOICE OF REASON WILL "PERSUADE" MICROSOFT TO LET OFF WITH TPM!

  • @erikandreassen6531
    @erikandreassen6531 Год назад

    I was around for TPM 0.1, windows worked it's 'magic' by using your CPU and amount of ram to set a code if you changed it (mainly CPU) it would ask you to re register. This goes way back to when your computer had dedicated hardware and drivers (some of that started with win 95 and got worse with win NT, for those that don't know win NT was the forerunner of the current windows) At least now a lot of board's etc only require a generic driver as a standard was hammered out. Up until now every time you upgraded windows you would also loose upto 50% of your software as it was no longer compatible which is the reason a lot of companies won't upgrade. Myself have a rather expensive piece of software that won't run on windows 11 but works fine on a non net connected window 10.

  • @JonC341
    @JonC341 3 года назад

    FYI for anyone wonder, as of 7/19/21 Microsoft still states that the health checker was removed due to the level of accuracy expected to identify if a pc is compatible. They still expect later this fall to re-release the health check or similar app. Hopefully this may include changes to requirements, but nothing has be said so far.

  • @RogerZoul
    @RogerZoul 3 года назад +53

    Just like MS to implement some feature in a shitty way that puts all these people under stress to keep up. It’s a good reason to bail on them.

    • @kensmith5694
      @kensmith5694 3 года назад +9

      Microsoft is buying a taller bus so there is more room to throw users under the bus.

    • @TylerTMG
      @TylerTMG 3 года назад

      @@kensmith5694 LOL

    • @AcolyteOfLucifer
      @AcolyteOfLucifer 3 года назад +1

      @owo グーチmoshi the complete opposite philosophy of Windows 10 XD

    • @imford
      @imford 3 года назад

      @owo グーチmoshi I was able to turn on TPM 2.0 by going into my bios and activating PTT, then windows 11 will be able to get installed

  • @azkakhairi7739
    @azkakhairi7739 3 года назад +59

    When the actual fact sounds like a parody

  • @sens_120ms
    @sens_120ms 3 года назад +3

    now listen, i have tpm 2.0, wddm 2.4 and the rest rest required, just cause of 7th gen it doesnt work.

  • @sunitasuman2294
    @sunitasuman2294 3 года назад +1

    I Think you should be able to install windows 11 without tpm. All you have to do is get both windows 11 and windows 10 installation iso files and then open windows 11 iso then go to sources and copy the "setup.exe" file and then go to windows 10 and then go to sources folder and paste it there. And now create bootable media using windows 10 iso (you will be installing windows 11 tho) and boot into it and continue the setup as usual. AGAIN THIS IS NOT GUARANTEED TO WORK IT JUST WORKED IN MY CASE, SO DONT CUSS ME IF IT DOESN'T WORK.

  • @Thex-W.I.T.C.H.-xMaster
    @Thex-W.I.T.C.H.-xMaster 3 года назад +18

    If they are trying to get people interested in upgrading to their Windows 10 2.0 OS.... I mean Windows 11 OS, they are not starting off very well. I already don't intent to upgrade right away 😒, but the requirements they are going for is MORE than the requirements they asked people for when people were originally asked to upgrade to their Windows 10 OS.
    Nice work Microsoft 👏 keep up the bad work, it will make keeping me on normal Windows 10 Pro OS that much easier of a discussion later on 🖕😃👍.

    • @daton3630
      @daton3630 3 года назад +4

      the only reason i want to upgrade to windows 10 2.0 is the window position memorization thing lol

    • @denizylmaz8131
      @denizylmaz8131 3 года назад +5

      Windows 10 will be insecure after 2025 as Microsoft will stop support for windows 10. Just switch to linux. My pc is way above the minimum requirements but I am gonna stick with windows 10 until I install linux

    • @Thex-W.I.T.C.H.-xMaster
      @Thex-W.I.T.C.H.-xMaster 3 года назад +1

      @@denizylmaz8131 My plan exactly...

    • @PWingert1966
      @PWingert1966 3 года назад

      Don't worry they are not releasing it until 2022! I am predicting 11/11/22!

    • @daton3630
      @daton3630 3 года назад

      @@PWingert1966 they should release it on 11/11/2111

  • @sodalunch1949
    @sodalunch1949 3 года назад +31

    OR do the easy method and bypass the requirement by replacing appraiserres.dll from the Windows 10 installer to disable the TPM requirement.

    • @AndroidX1X
      @AndroidX1X 3 года назад +1

      well yes

    • @humakashif3123
      @humakashif3123 3 года назад

      Tell do this works

    • @TaylerPlays
      @TaylerPlays 3 года назад

      how

    • @xparadoxical69
      @xparadoxical69 3 года назад +1

      Another way is DISM - it doesn't even check any requirements, just unpacks the chosen system image from the .wim file, and the leaked win11 build seems to work just fine even if you don't have tpm

    • @TaylerPlays
      @TaylerPlays 3 года назад

      @@xparadoxical69 how do u do that

  • @shoaibahmedafif5197
    @shoaibahmedafif5197 3 года назад

    Pc Health Check said my processor(i5 6th gen) was incompatible for Windows 11. I enabled PTT in my bios setting and then I installed the updates. Surprisingly Windows 11 ran on my PC. 😎

  • @sambowen
    @sambowen 3 года назад

    Oh, and the end card that's supposed to be the windows 11 leaked build is actually linked to a video you did last year about the new command prompt. Or maybe its set to "best for viewer" maybe.

  • @rhandeymaahrsch2151
    @rhandeymaahrsch2151 3 года назад +43

    Conspiracy theory: "we (Microsoft) are benevolent, and we will give you a FREE update to windows 11. (To make it seem like we are competitive with Apple)
    Oh no, your hardware is too old. Better upgrade the hardware.
    Oh no, the windows license is tied to your hardware.
    Now you have to BUY a new full version of Windows 11"

    • @jameszy
      @jameszy 3 года назад +2

      This is why you should tie your Windows license to your Microsoft account, because that allows you to transfer your license across computers. I swapped my motherboard and W10 deactivated itself because of the hardware change, but because my license is tied to my MS account I could transfer the license from my "old" PC to my "new" PC.

    • @rhandeymaahrsch2151
      @rhandeymaahrsch2151 3 года назад +2

      @@jameszy It depends on how your Windows 10 license was obtained.
      Full retail versions can often be transferred, but OEM versions can’t. Other versions, well, it depends on a lot of factors.

    • @FNLNFNLN
      @FNLNFNLN 3 года назад +4

      @@rhandeymaahrsch2151 You can just call up MS support and be like "hey, my motherboard died, I had to change it out, can you reactivate windows for me" and they'll do it.
      It's how I transferred my dead laptop's OEM license to my desktop build.
      Not that you lose much even without activating Windows. MS wants you to use Windows more than they want you to pay for using Windows.
      As long as you're on their OS, they can sell you Game Pass, Office, Onedrive, whatever.

    • @Subhrajyoti
      @Subhrajyoti 3 года назад

      how much old is ur pc

    • @rhandeymaahrsch2151
      @rhandeymaahrsch2151 3 года назад

      @@FNLNFNLN Technically that is cheating or stealing.
      If the premise is that cheating and stealing is allowed, then we don’t even have to pay for new hardware.

  • @CaseySexton
    @CaseySexton 3 года назад +18

    Thank you for doing this research! I've been asking this question since yesterday and this is the first channel that has answered it clearly.

  • @imsamiurrahman
    @imsamiurrahman 3 года назад +1

    I had this problem too but still I was able to install Windows 11 on my PC

  • @davehenderson3739
    @davehenderson3739 3 года назад +9

    I'll just wait till Windows 12 comes out, were a TPM is NOT required.

    • @smaarif1975
      @smaarif1975 3 года назад

      What if other crap is required

    • @davehenderson3739
      @davehenderson3739 3 года назад

      @@smaarif1975 Well we will have to wait and see.

    • @davehenderson3739
      @davehenderson3739 3 года назад

      @MaskedGamer2154 Well they will have a non-tpm version.

    • @davehenderson3739
      @davehenderson3739 3 года назад

      @MaskedGamer2154 Well MS will be losing ALOT of customers because of this, they have no choice but to have a non-tpm version.

  • @Tall_Order
    @Tall_Order 3 года назад +92

    In other words this is just another way to force people to buy a new computer... Even though the ones I already have work perfectly fine. But if I want Windows 11, I either gotta hack it somehow or lose money.

    • @mattstansbeary3068
      @mattstansbeary3068 3 года назад

      Not if your Computer after 2018 then you should be fine. before 2018 then yes your going to need to Buy a Computer. Take it from me you should of just go in the New Sony PS5 and Microsoft Xbox series out Time to get a new PC then sit for 5,6 years and go ok is the PS6\ Next Xbox out yes or No time to Repeat if yes. takes the worry away when they do something like this plus everything will run for 5 or 6 years no issue.

    • @namesurname4666
      @namesurname4666 3 года назад +4

      stay on 10 or switch to linux

    • @mazz1985
      @mazz1985 3 года назад +4

      They really need to extend Windows 10 lifetime or they will get shietstorm.
      Could be until every last cpu has been used and you just cant get older ones anymore.
      That way it would not feel forced.

    • @pilotavery
      @pilotavery 3 года назад

      If your computer was made after 2014 it should be fine.
      Literally AMD has put a TPM chip embedded in every single one of their CPUs since 2014.
      And Intel has asked that all of their motherboard oems integrated on their motherboard, although that's actually up to the motherboard manufacturers. Until motherboards cost so much more because they force the consumer to pay for all of these bills and whistles separately.
      You might have to disable CSM and enable UEFI in BIOS and convert your partition to GPT if you want the TPM chip to work, many people who have installed Windows themselves did not do it properly and therefore won't have access to tpm. Realistically anything above 6th gen Intel and anything newer than bulldozer will work fine.

    • @mattstansbeary3068
      @mattstansbeary3068 3 года назад

      @@mazz1985 Windows 10 is useable until 2025 so if you want to skip Windows 11 or opt out of it you can. but they will stop supporting it then and by support I mean they are still bring out Patches and Newer improvements to windows 10.. They are planning to do both this Fall.

  • @Spunow
    @Spunow 3 года назад +12

    Thx. I was able to find my TPM in my BIOS and turned it on.

  • @ancil57
    @ancil57 3 года назад

    I downloaded and installed the developers' build earlier today and it is working brilliantly. Not all new features work on every application. But, it is surprisingly polished.

  • @japekto2138
    @japekto2138 2 года назад

    I just installed Windows 11 Pro on a 2013 FX-8350 PC with ASUS M5A78L-M/USB3 motherboard. No TPM (BIOS or port) of any sort. So far so good.

  • @SjoerdvanGestel
    @SjoerdvanGestel 3 года назад +32

    2013 laptop, I'm shit out of luck. I'm pretty disappointed by this as it's still a capable device that can easily run w11.
    Just checked as your mention of 4th gen gave me some hope, but my Intel® Core™ i7-4700MQ Processor does not mention Platform Trusted Technologies, but it does mention Intel® Trusted Execution Technology, but it's a No 🙄

    • @ibishudrive
      @ibishudrive 3 года назад +4

      You can easily mod the iso to bypass the system check

    • @Raphaelwelingston
      @Raphaelwelingston 3 года назад +2

      @@ibishudrive Yeah, for the beta which has been leaked ! We don't know if it will be the case for the release version !

    • @NazmusLabs
      @NazmusLabs 3 года назад +3

      @@ibishudrive No such option exists. You can’t “easily” enable an option that doesn’t exist. 😢

    • @ibishudrive
      @ibishudrive 3 года назад

      @@Raphaelwelingston yea it might change

    • @the_danksmith134
      @the_danksmith134 3 года назад +4

      the thing is it will run Windows 11 better than Windows 10 because it has less bloatware to tax your system. You can try the bypass method if you want to get it working for now and hope it will work on the final version as well

  • @christopherkidwell9817
    @christopherkidwell9817 3 года назад +9

    Something tells me that the requirement for TPM is going to be dropped because there are WAY too many computers... new computers like mine bought last year... that do not support TPM 1.2 or 2.0.

    • @aviralmishraofficial1626
      @aviralmishraofficial1626 3 года назад

      Mine is from 2015 and it has tpm 2.0 but has 5th gen Intel and you know the damn reason😔

  • @Anxiou5Panda
    @Anxiou5Panda 3 года назад

    I think Microsoft should release a proper statement of this thing in their own YT channel to finally clear things up. This shit is becoming frustrating.
    Thanks for the information man!

  • @msimelelo1290
    @msimelelo1290 3 года назад

    Using a Lenovo ThinkPad T490s. The TPM 2.0 feature is there, it just wasn't enabled by default. Leaving this here in case anyone has the same model and runs into an issue.