Looking to get one myself as a play car against my 2010 W221 S550. My buddy had one, from new. The first week he got it he said "They might as well take my license now."
@@Sawbuck i agree with your pal. Its too bloody quick for public roads. I make good use of the built in adjustable speed limiter. The torque from the bi-turbo engines is addictive!
If you are interested in a 991 991 Targa, I would recommend to test both the 991.1 and 991.2. I had a 992 991 and the turbo lag on the turbo injected engine drove me crazy coming from a naturally aspirated 997 911. But you may have other preferences.
Best ever GT...damn, could be a bunch of answers depending on what balance you want between the journey and the track at the other end. The latest Conti GT looks pretty great, but I wouldn't pick it on a track. A 911 is definitely a GT now, but not good enough on a long run to be the best GT. I feel I'm giving an obvious (for me) answer here but it honestly could be the LC500. Won plenty of handling tests, sounds awesome, super luxurious and looks great, plus it won't break on a grand tour, what more could anyone want? Someone will say "0-60 in
😇 Feeling when you just bought a thinking mans DB9 for $20k. 2013 Jaguar XK Touring, 5.0L. For that price I couldn't resist. Feel like a million bucks every time I see it in my driveway.
This RUclipsrs call for attention with their titles but at the end of the day one NEVER find one of those Vehicles on the market for sale at those huge depreciations...
Dude, yes you do😂 he’s not doing any false advertisement, if you look on autotrader the same week he uploads 9 times out of 10 you can see the exact cars he uses in the videos 😂
I have a 2016 AMG GTS. Sticker price on the car was 106k. I got it for 75k with 22,000 miles on it. I freakin love this car. I don’t see it depreciating much more than it already has.
@@Ben77788can’t go wrong with Mercedes rialibity. The amg gts is very reliable.. I got mine from 5K miles and I’ve been so reckless with it, never had any problems. It’s at 33K miles now and the only problem I ever had was when I ran over something on the freeway because the car is so low, broke some coolers..
I would have to say in a biast way, the jaguar F type, i was lucky enough to iwn one, it was a 3.0 V6 awd, and the sound from it was the best v6 sound ever, its also a very comfy car, i drove from Portsmouth to Stoke-on-Trent, managed to get 40mpg, and once i arrived i didnt feel like i had travelled for 4hrs
The 2014 Ferrari California is an amazing car with that crazy Ferrari NA exhaust note. Had one for about a year. I wish that I'd kept it. The California T is a turbo and sounds like crap compared to the earlier NA models.
Another option would be R231 SL63 - 577bhp, 900NM, 2015 can be had for less than £40K. Might not be the prettiest but get it in the right colour with the right wheels and it’s handsome. Ridiculous torque and a noise which puts a smile on your face every time you drive it.
If you are lucky to experience a moment of clarity you will realize that you really don't need any of these beauties. A car is a means of conveyance and there are many cars you can buy new that are fun to drive and won't bankrupt you when it comes time to service it.
well I've had a number of these; including 2 Ferrari's and 2 Porsche's.. and 5 SL's... mistake not keeping them all. However the Sl400 (yes a 6) is the most reliable of the bunch and without the high maintenance everyone talks of and I experienced with earlier models.. maybe I merely got lucky; but it's a retractable hardtop and sort of classic, whereas the new SL is rag-top only. Still a keeper ?
I want that 911 Targa 4S but its still expensive in the US even if you go back to 2017 its well over $100K. I have driven the AMG GT and that was powerful I cant even imagine the GTS. If you dont mind going back a few years you can get a 2016 for about 75K in the US and this out of all the cars shown was the only one in any real striking distance for me
Isnt the definition of a grand tourer the fact it has a proper boot and 2 proper back seats? For you know travelling round in comfort. I feel allot of these GTs dont fill the brief
The problem with all of these cars is the cost to keep them on the road. Personally, I love my 2011 MX5 GT PRHT. It’s a blast to drive, bullet proof, comfortable enough to drive all day and easy on the wallet across the board
You’re joking right…. You’re trying to defend a miata as a replacement for exotics? Of course exotics are expensive to own, but that’s regardless of their starting price. So the reason your mx5 is enough is because you can’t afford one of these. That’s all.
@@chris8535 Chill a little. I can't understand why the more you pay for a car the more it's A POS! Replacing suspensions in Bentley's and Roll's at 50k miles is just one example. You would think the more you pay over 200k the car would be MORE reliable and last LONGER.
@@rockymntdan1 Let me break it down for both super cars and luxury cars. supercars require expensive cutting edge components that can tolerate high stress and propel the car forward about as fast as the engineers can possibly make it go. this means that unlike your ford fiesta, these cars are set at (or close to) the limit of their components capabilities from the factory. This means the components arent going to last as long as a ford which is designed to get you to your destination smoothly rather than as fast as possible. Think about it logically. For the super luxury cars there is a simple answer. Ever wonder why old cars seem to last longer? the answer is less features/components. the amount of technology they cram into Bentleys rolls etc is incomparable to a cheap car. if you imagine the amount of electronic devices they have you can simply tally up the amount of things that can break. Its really simple honestly, more components = more things to go wrong. Rich people do not mind this, as they get rid of the car long before the dashes start lighting up like christmas trees, and just buy the latest model next year. To them the features are worth the trade off for eye watering depreciation. at a certain level of success it no longer matters, which is why these markets exist. These cars ARE NOT made for people thinking about budget or reliability, and so the market responds to their demands accordingly.
Wait, wait, wait ... so people that do not have enough money to buy a new car should consider a used ... Ferrari or Aston? So they spent all the money on the car without any warranty and one small issue with it and they are without a car or ... homeless.
Good video, although if you’re considering any of these from a financial aspect (for its affordability), you probably shouldn’t buy any of them in the first place.
I will never understand why the DBS is so cheap.They only builr 3400 and only 984 with a manual gearbox and they were £160k+ when new and got rave reviews and it is the best looking and best sounding car on the list.
Aston's reputation for running costs including servicing, fuel, reliability, etc. Combine that with how similar all their cars of that era look - they looks great, but most people won't know the difference if you just buy a Vantage. Considering that, there are also a lot of similar Astons offering a similar experience - a DBS isn't special enough to justify a huge premium over a DB9, Vanquish, Virage, etc. Of course, it's a good thing really - means a DBS is vaguely attainable! That is, until you get to a petrol station or it needs a service.
Cost of reliability and servcing is no more than a Ferrari of the same era. Fuel comsumption of a V12 is always going to higher than a V8 or a flat 6. A Porsche is always going to be a cheaper long term prospect but ask the average non Porsche person in the street if they can tell the difference between a 20 year old 911 and a current model and most will not have a clue. So the "they all look the same" resoning does not wash . Ferrari's have evolved in the last 20 year BUT, F12 12 apart they have in the main become ugly and like Porsche they make far too many models that are too similar. @@ApothecaryTerry
@@oldsoulboy6483 Ferraris have a Ferrari badge and do get a LOT more attention, so that's an entirely different proposition, regardless of how good the cars are or whether you like the styling (since "ugly" isn't a common view). Porsches aren't just slightly cheaper to run- my 3.4L porker regularly got 47-48mpg on long journeys, the tyres lasted 20k miles (not driven gently...) and they have bi-annual servicing. They do also all look the same, of course, but then the average person (who all know *nothing* about cars) pays more attention to a Cayman than most Astons, because it looks more like a supercar to them - I know that, because I drove a Cayman and regularly saw Astons getting ignored in favour of my car. No it isn't how it should be and any car person knows the Aston is more special, but that's not most people. The point is nothing to do with how good Astons are or any of my opinion about them, it's just how the general public perceive them and what owners expect from them, that's what drives value- in this case, down.
@@mrbzliteyear You also get a Volvo key fob and many other things. Almost every car has that though - a Porsche 918 Spyder has the window switch off a Skoda Citigo. I know this, because so does a 981CS and my friend who owns a Citigo wouldn't let me forget it 🤣 Pagani used the HVAC unit off an old Rover, and the engine from an old Merc S600. Koenigsegg used RX-8 indicators and, originally, also a Ford-based engine. The XJ220 has an engine from a Metro. The Emira has a Camry engine. The McLaren 12C engine is based on a Nissan design... Thing is - some of those are extremely reliable, others very much not, but if an Aston has a Ford engine that means there's a good chance your local mechanic can get parts and knows how to fix it, whereas if the engine in the Cayman breaks...the words "diagnostic fee" become very familiar and Porsches aren't much more reliable than Astons (*hugely* more economical, practical and better at holding their value though).
I always thought I wanted a Bentley Continental GT Speed. I still love the look of it, although some stuff on the interior, like the shifter, look like they came straight from the 90's. Audi RS7s and S8s too.. All the cars on your list are always so expensive still. Way beyond what the average person can afford. As soon as it's out of reach price wise, and only intended for the usually unfairly wealthy, I couldn't give a crap about that car anymore. I just tune them out by this point. It's easier and very practical.
Ay I hear you on price - I like to sit my videos anywhere between £1k and £100k typically, depending on how I’m feeling typically dictates which end I go for with vids! But agreed, affordability at times like these in particular is very important
Aston; well I had one years back and the manual had clutch judder from day 1 and wasn’t “easy” to drive, with a tendency to wash out in fast corners. Still attractive with a classic shape. Now have Ferrari Cal T and can honestly say it’s much better than the “hairdresser” image some like to give it; excellent GT with bags of space for…bags. Also have Macca 570 spider and yes, it’s the best sports car and amazing on track and in general driving as so composed and comfortable at speed… but it ain’t no grand tourer as space is limited.
With specs like these, can you truly call them GT cars?👀... Not so sure... These are properly fast machines... Since i own a 911, i'd be tempted to go for the Porsche for a long journey as it's that versatile... But make no mistakes, these cars aren't your average tourer... They will all eat your driving licence😂
These prices drops will become more insidious as the top 1% afford more outrageous prices for their automobiles. The bottom 99% has far less to spend so there you go. Trickle down has never worked. Wake up world.
What does it mean to "work". If consumers willingly give their money to businesses for products that they don't need why should those businesses have to pay more in taxes?
Your opinion the best GT is a race car with a little bit of leather that will break down every thousand miles????? The unreliability of the cars on your list is crazy, you may not be touring any more than the route to your dealer
Lexus LC500. Spaceship looks, 5l naturally asperated V8, Toyota reliability.
911, 991 Targa is beautiful. One of the most beautiful 911 ever.
A stunner for sure - huge fan
Have you seen the 992?
Facts
Yes, I own one and absolutely love it!!!
It’s unfortunate they dont offer the 911 Turbo/Turbo-S in targa. Not a fan of the convertible
I'm absolutely shocked you were able to find a 570GT for that price. In the United States, the cheapest 2017 used models are $138,000. (110k pounds)
i really think this video is great, thank you for your work🌹
Owned a 570GT, brilliant car , just make sure you get a McLaren warranty , incredible value for the money 👍
I just picked up an Merc SL R231. Original owner paid 92k plus taxes. I just paid 23k. Over 400bhp, 500nm of torque, rear wheel drive.
Looking to get one myself as a play car against my 2010 W221 S550. My buddy had one, from new. The first week he got it he said "They might as well take my license now."
@@Sawbuck i agree with your pal. Its too bloody quick for public roads. I make good use of the built in adjustable speed limiter. The torque from the bi-turbo engines is addictive!
Got a 2000 r129 here.
The Bentley Continental GT W12 third addition: class, elegant, luxurious interior & fabulous exterior!!
Ferrari F12. 700ps, depreciated 50% or so. Weapon on road and track. Useable for everything.
991.1 Targa 4S is a stunner!!!!
If you are interested in a 991 991 Targa, I would recommend to test both the 991.1 and 991.2. I had a 992 991 and the turbo lag on the turbo injected engine drove me crazy coming from a naturally aspirated 997 911. But you may have other preferences.
Exhaust and tune will transform the car
I kind of want a 992, but even if I go for one I'll never surrender my 997.
I agree that turbo lag, no matter how short, is annoying, but Sport Plus solves this problem. Sport helps a little, but not as much as Sport Plus.
In my macan sport plus feels like it just changes throttle curve (and of course PASM and PDK settings). Is it more than that on the 991/992?
Best ever GT...damn, could be a bunch of answers depending on what balance you want between the journey and the track at the other end. The latest Conti GT looks pretty great, but I wouldn't pick it on a track. A 911 is definitely a GT now, but not good enough on a long run to be the best GT. I feel I'm giving an obvious (for me) answer here but it honestly could be the LC500. Won plenty of handling tests, sounds awesome, super luxurious and looks great, plus it won't break on a grand tour, what more could anyone want? Someone will say "0-60 in
You never state how much from original MSRP these models have dropped over 5-10 years??? I thought that was the point of the video !
The Lexus LC500 is pretty underrated
The crushing feeling when you know you can’t afford any one of these on this list. 😢
😇 Feeling when you just bought a thinking mans DB9 for $20k. 2013 Jaguar XK Touring, 5.0L. For that price I couldn't resist. Feel like a million bucks every time I see it in my driveway.
This RUclipsrs call for attention with their titles but at the end of the day one NEVER find one of those Vehicles on the market for sale at those huge depreciations...
He literally posts screenshots from Autotrader 😂 …
Dude, yes you do😂 he’s not doing any false advertisement, if you look on autotrader the same week he uploads 9 times out of 10 you can see the exact cars he uses in the videos 😂
Prices in The States are much different than G.B.
I was hoping the BMW 850i would make this list
My GT of choice is the Mercedes s-class coupe - the S63 version - 4 seater, so there's room for my dog to enjoy it too. Yes, I'm single. 🙂
I take it your in the UK, we don't get those in Canada for less than 1/4 million.
I have a 2016 AMG GTS. Sticker price on the car was 106k. I got it for 75k with 22,000 miles on it. I freakin love this car. I don’t see it depreciating much more than it already has.
I want one so bad!!!! I’m looking to get a 2020!! Would you buy it again?
How’s the reliability? I’m thinking about getting a 2018 roadster
@@Ben77788please don’t get the roadster lol
@@Ben77788can’t go wrong with Mercedes rialibity. The amg gts is very reliable.. I got mine from 5K miles and I’ve been so reckless with it, never had any problems. It’s at 33K miles now and the only problem I ever had was when I ran over something on the freeway because the car is so low, broke some coolers..
MT says at GT-S starts at $131K.
AMG GT is a great bargain and exciting to own
Targa any day, birds love them
I was very pleased with my MBZ CL600.
all the mentioned cars are average € 30-50 K more expensive in Austria
They are all amazing
I would have to say in a biast way, the jaguar F type, i was lucky enough to iwn one, it was a 3.0 V6 awd, and the sound from it was the best v6 sound ever, its also a very comfy car, i drove from Portsmouth to Stoke-on-Trent, managed to get 40mpg, and once i arrived i didnt feel like i had travelled for 4hrs
40 mpg? Not possible unless you drove downhill and you can't believe what the obc is telling you. The algorithm it uses to calculate is very dynamic.
Cost of ownership is gonna be bonkers for most of these!
That is why most people try to unload these exotics before they are due for some serious maintenance. $500 oil change on 911s is just stupid.
All a little over my budget im afraid
The best? Big question. Imo, the best for the $$? Last gen XKR.
Another brilliant video, full of my favourite cars.
Lol those 911 targa are $120k+ in the US. I wanted one but for that price there’s too many options.
The 2014 Ferrari California is an amazing car with that crazy Ferrari NA exhaust note. Had one for about a year. I wish that I'd kept it. The California T is a turbo and sounds like crap compared to the earlier NA models.
They look expensive... and they are *Jeremy Clarkson voice*
B... B... BUH... BWAH HAHAHA HAHAHA PERRRRRFECT 😂
w vid
Another option would be R231 SL63 - 577bhp, 900NM, 2015 can be had for less than £40K. Might not be the prettiest but get it in the right colour with the right wheels and it’s handsome. Ridiculous torque and a noise which puts a smile on your face every time you drive it.
…would have been helpful to actually refer to the depreciation for these 5 as per the title of the video.
If you are lucky to experience a moment of clarity you will realize that you really don't need any of these beauties. A car is a means of conveyance and there are many cars you can buy new that are fun to drive and won't bankrupt you when it comes time to service it.
I still drive my 96 SLK. It's an every day driver. Costs nothing to maintain and looks good.
That is exactly my point. Good for you.@@aardvarkbiscuit2677
well I've had a number of these; including 2 Ferrari's and 2 Porsche's.. and 5 SL's... mistake not keeping them all. However the Sl400 (yes a 6) is the most reliable of the bunch and without the high maintenance everyone talks of and I experienced with earlier models.. maybe I merely got lucky; but it's a retractable hardtop and sort of classic, whereas the new SL is rag-top only. Still a keeper ?
TVR Chimaera 4.0 v8,... with tweaks!! 😁 Weighs about a tonne, fibre glass body! Nuf said.
God I miss Englands car prices, gotta be the cheapest place in the world to own a car
The low purchase price is just the start.
F type is a good one for like 50k
I want that 911 Targa 4S but its still expensive in the US even if you go back to 2017 its well over $100K. I have driven the AMG GT and that was powerful I cant even imagine the GTS. If you dont mind going back a few years you can get a 2016 for about 75K in the US and this out of all the cars shown was the only one in any real striking distance for me
Best GT ever .. 1995 Porsche 928 GTS with manual gearbox.
California in black with the red interior 😭😭😭
Isnt the definition of a grand tourer the fact it has a proper boot and 2 proper back seats? For you know travelling round in comfort. I feel allot of these GTs dont fill the brief
Those DBS’ are just sexy as hell
Agreed! Pretty much any Aston oozes sex appeal.
McLaren GT all the way!
We couldn't afford it then and we cannot now. Stop dreaming guys
The problem with all of these cars is the cost to keep them on the road. Personally, I love my 2011 MX5 GT PRHT. It’s a blast to drive, bullet proof, comfortable enough to drive all day and easy on the wallet across the board
You’re joking right…. You’re trying to defend a miata as a replacement for exotics? Of course exotics are expensive to own, but that’s regardless of their starting price. So the reason your mx5 is enough is because you can’t afford one of these. That’s all.
@@chris8535 Chill a little. I can't understand why the more you pay for a car the more it's A POS! Replacing suspensions in Bentley's and Roll's at 50k miles is just one example. You would think the more you pay over 200k the car would be MORE reliable and last LONGER.
@@rockymntdan1 Let me break it down for both super cars and luxury cars. supercars require expensive cutting edge components that can tolerate high stress and propel the car forward about as fast as the engineers can possibly make it go. this means that unlike your ford fiesta, these cars are set at (or close to) the limit of their components capabilities from the factory. This means the components arent going to last as long as a ford which is designed to get you to your destination smoothly rather than as fast as possible. Think about it logically. For the super luxury cars there is a simple answer. Ever wonder why old cars seem to last longer? the answer is less features/components. the amount of technology they cram into Bentleys rolls etc is incomparable to a cheap car. if you imagine the amount of electronic devices they have you can simply tally up the amount of things that can break. Its really simple honestly, more components = more things to go wrong. Rich people do not mind this, as they get rid of the car long before the dashes start lighting up like christmas trees, and just buy the latest model next year. To them the features are worth the trade off for eye watering depreciation. at a certain level of success it no longer matters, which is why these markets exist. These cars ARE NOT made for people thinking about budget or reliability, and so the market responds to their demands accordingly.
Wait, wait, wait ... so people that do not have enough money to buy a new car should consider a used ... Ferrari or Aston? So they spent all the money on the car without any warranty and one small issue with it and they are without a car or ... homeless.
I can't afford a new 911 turbo but it's no problem affording my used 911 turbo
@@sutherlacd27 911 is not exotic nor bad build:P I said Ferrari and Aston. Merry Christmas.
Good video, although if you’re considering any of these from a financial aspect (for its affordability), you probably shouldn’t buy any of them in the first place.
I will never understand why the DBS is so cheap.They only builr 3400 and only 984 with a manual gearbox and they were £160k+ when new and got rave reviews and it is the best looking and best sounding car on the list.
Aston's reputation for running costs including servicing, fuel, reliability, etc. Combine that with how similar all their cars of that era look - they looks great, but most people won't know the difference if you just buy a Vantage. Considering that, there are also a lot of similar Astons offering a similar experience - a DBS isn't special enough to justify a huge premium over a DB9, Vanquish, Virage, etc.
Of course, it's a good thing really - means a DBS is vaguely attainable! That is, until you get to a petrol station or it needs a service.
Cost of reliability and servcing is no more than a Ferrari of the same era. Fuel comsumption of a V12 is always going to higher than a V8 or a flat 6. A Porsche is always going to be a cheaper long term prospect but ask the average non Porsche person in the street if they can tell the difference between a 20 year old 911 and a current model and most will not have a clue. So the "they all look the same" resoning does not wash . Ferrari's have evolved in the last 20 year BUT, F12 12 apart they have in the main become ugly and like Porsche they make far too many models that are too similar. @@ApothecaryTerry
@@oldsoulboy6483 Ferraris have a Ferrari badge and do get a LOT more attention, so that's an entirely different proposition, regardless of how good the cars are or whether you like the styling (since "ugly" isn't a common view).
Porsches aren't just slightly cheaper to run- my 3.4L porker regularly got 47-48mpg on long journeys, the tyres lasted 20k miles (not driven gently...) and they have bi-annual servicing. They do also all look the same, of course, but then the average person (who all know *nothing* about cars) pays more attention to a Cayman than most Astons, because it looks more like a supercar to them - I know that, because I drove a Cayman and regularly saw Astons getting ignored in favour of my car. No it isn't how it should be and any car person knows the Aston is more special, but that's not most people.
The point is nothing to do with how good Astons are or any of my opinion about them, it's just how the general public perceive them and what owners expect from them, that's what drives value- in this case, down.
Isn’t Aston just two unreliable ford V6 put together? And you get ford focus window switches 😂
@@mrbzliteyear You also get a Volvo key fob and many other things.
Almost every car has that though - a Porsche 918 Spyder has the window switch off a Skoda Citigo. I know this, because so does a 981CS and my friend who owns a Citigo wouldn't let me forget it 🤣
Pagani used the HVAC unit off an old Rover, and the engine from an old Merc S600.
Koenigsegg used RX-8 indicators and, originally, also a Ford-based engine.
The XJ220 has an engine from a Metro.
The Emira has a Camry engine.
The McLaren 12C engine is based on a Nissan design...
Thing is - some of those are extremely reliable, others very much not, but if an Aston has a Ford engine that means there's a good chance your local mechanic can get parts and knows how to fix it, whereas if the engine in the Cayman breaks...the words "diagnostic fee" become very familiar and Porsches aren't much more reliable than Astons (*hugely* more economical, practical and better at holding their value though).
I always thought I wanted a Bentley Continental GT Speed. I still love the look of it, although some stuff on the interior, like the shifter, look like they came straight from the 90's.
Audi RS7s and S8s too..
All the cars on your list are always so expensive still. Way beyond what the average person can afford.
As soon as it's out of reach price wise, and only intended for the usually unfairly wealthy, I couldn't give a crap about that car anymore. I just tune them out by this point. It's easier and very practical.
Ay I hear you on price - I like to sit my videos anywhere between £1k and £100k typically, depending on how I’m feeling typically dictates which end I go for with vids! But agreed, affordability at times like these in particular is very important
Aston; well I had one years back and the manual had clutch judder from day 1 and wasn’t “easy” to drive, with a tendency to wash out in fast corners. Still attractive with a classic shape. Now have Ferrari Cal T and can honestly say it’s much better than the “hairdresser” image some like to give it; excellent GT with bags of space for…bags. Also have Macca 570 spider and yes, it’s the best sports car and amazing on track and in general driving as so composed and comfortable at speed… but it ain’t no grand tourer as space is limited.
With specs like these, can you truly call them GT cars?👀... Not so sure... These are properly fast machines... Since i own a 911, i'd be tempted to go for the Porsche for a long journey as it's that versatile... But make no mistakes, these cars aren't your average tourer... They will all eat your driving licence😂
DBS
F-Type R? Come on, now.
Best GT car might be a Corvette
These prices drops will become more insidious as the top 1% afford more outrageous prices for their automobiles. The bottom 99% has far less to spend so there you go.
Trickle down has never worked. Wake up world.
What does it mean to "work". If consumers willingly give their money to businesses for products that they don't need why should those businesses have to pay more in taxes?
Your opinion the best GT is a race car with a little bit of leather that will break down every thousand miles????? The unreliability of the cars on your list is crazy, you may not be touring any more than the route to your dealer
Not surprising to see these nags from their respective stables apart from Mercedes which have nothing but.
GT cars are the best. I love mine
How do you completely miss the fact that you didn’t put the price up for the Aston? I feel like you should’ve caught that in the editing. 🙄
02:47 ?
@@CarsWithJB I don’t know how I missed that. 😂
570GT is not at that price
california sucks
This video isn’t remotely accurate, the misinformation is unreal?