I actually really appreciate this scene now that I've seen it because it reaffirms to me that I'm not the one that's in the wrong. Funny that, knowing that I have no control over it, actually feels better than thinking it's my fault things are this way. It's not much better, but at least I don't have to direct all the negativity at myself.
@@raiden_from_metal_gearI understand how you feel, and this may be too late, but I came from the same kind of home… you can always change. It’s hard, really, gruelingly hard, but you can. If you don’t want to put that effort in, that’s fine. But you can’t blame circumstance. That becomes your choice. And it is empowering to own your choice.
@@exquisitemeat5845Yeah makes sense. I’m not good at computers or good at math but I’m pretty good at reading and games. Seems my writing was just atrocious right?
If you read the comics it’s revealed that Homer is actually a genius way back in the 90s. He got stupid by shoving crayons up his nose and chose to leave it there because he’s not happy being smart
@@gearsgamer7115he’s not saying it’s right, he’s was pointing out that due to him being raised like that, he believes that’s how he should be raising his son, hence most of the fault lies with Homer’s dad. Your point had nothing to do with what he said.
@@MoNKeYy002 Not necessarily nowadays chess has become a sport of intense memorization and very little randomness now all the moves seems pre memorized their is always a set move to any situation and if you find it you keep it for future games after playing alot of games you just memorize winning moves in any situation.......
@@goldenchef5354 most of the good chess players in the world are ones with high IQ, of course that doesn't mean that the best chess player is the smaller one,not at all,but almost all good chess players are smart
@@nathanjimenez5405 Obviously it is, but also very obvious this situation is based on real life that happens enough. Is anyone debating that this cartoon is real?
The fact that Homer could've been like Lisa if he had a better father is always insane to me, he still had the crayon in his brain that makes him dumb too
The safety nuclear reactor position, was just a position, in fact they showed that Lenny's console was the one that was the actual working one, and Homer's was just a dud, a fake, to make him feel important.
@@Samandrewsisthegreatestpeople are weird why would people think bad of Disney because of that. Though I think it is weird when kids call their parents by their name I knew a girl and a boy who always called their father by his name. Never understood why. The boy grew to be the biggest asshole in existence while the girl got into a psychic ward after attacking her mother. Coincidence? I THINK NOT!!!
@fallennarcotic6981 oh yeah, well I knew a girl called Jean Finch, who used to call her dad by his first name. Want to know what happened to that lot? Well her brother got away with murder after the sheriff insisted his victim merely fell on his own blade. Something to consider.
Homer being a random chess savant is such a great character beat. Totally believable. He would 1000% be THAT guy who’s inexplicably beating people’s asses in park.
@nuggetsplace8273 the simpsons is probably the greatest animated show ever made overanalysing and crying over the way characters behave which is what makes them funny BTW leads to utter sh!t like modern simpsons
Bobby Fischer was from the USA and the coach of Homer had a russian accent. So that doesnt male sense but it could be a master from the USSR because nearly all of the best players in the world at that time were from the USSR and it would also make sense with the accent.
@@user-zu1ir2mv2p I dont think it is either one of because as far as I know wouldnt ad up regarding the time they were activ but I dont know when the show takes places. It could be Boris Wassiljewitsch Spasski who lost the world championship to Bobby Fischer in 1972.
The attention to detail is actually very good. All the moves were correct and checkmate. Also, the flashback with Homer and his dad showed Homer falling for the “fools mate”, which is the fastest checkmate possible in the game.
and everyday makes less sense. One thing is character growth, and another one is just to keep contradicting what the character is. And yes...I say this regardless of the crayon episode
Homer has always been the smartest person. He’s an astronaut, works at a nuclear power plant, birthed brilliant kids like Lisa, Bart and Maggie and keeps a woman like Marge happy. He does all that without people noticing or coming off as arrogant.
He is literally the smartest, he just lobotomized himself with a pencil when he was a child. In one episode they removed it from his brains and he became insanely smart.
@@steve4729I wouldn't call IQ "largely hereditary." Everyone has a set IQ when they're born, this is called instincts. But everything after that is skilled.
I like that he actually practiced it a lot and it had a backstory, a lot of the time in cartoons characters just get random incredible talents for no reason for an episode
Had a similar experience. I'm the youngest in a house of 7. Everyone always loved playing games with me until i was about 13-14. It was funny how quickly people stopped playing when they stopped winning. I lost for 14 years and they couldn't handle 1 month.... Pathetic.
The fact that homer is so genius that he can think coherently and speak normally with a crayon stuffed up his nose which is literally touching his brain is amazing
Every time i see a chess board in a piece of media I analyze the position, and check if its actually checkmate. Kinda like the whole piano being improperly animated thing. Ive found most of the time people actually set up a checkmate on the board
Dr Horse. An obvious reference to the “Grey Horse” when Gregory House was secretly reading his ex girlfriend’s, (Stacy) report on how much she cant stop thinking about a particular grey coloured horse even though she was married to a jealous cripple.
@30 seconds, Homer's dad gaslit him! It wasn't actually mate, because Homer could have moved his G2 pawn to G3 and maintained protection, because he still has H2 pawn defending... also, Homer had 9 pawns, but those are just some details from a cartoon.
The fact that for the animation they went as far to actually make the chess pieces positioning correctly makes it 10 times better. In the game with the old man he wins with Knight g3# because there's the b5 Bishop covering g1 square, and the h2 pawn can't take the g3 Knight cause there's the h8 Queen. While in the flashback where he play with his father. Homer loses to a Fool's mate, which is a 2 moves losing mate. Edit: I picked this two games cause' they were the easiest ones to have a complete view of the chessboard and the pieces positioning
Given Ane at the time wanted him to win, he must have taught Homer the bare minimum just so he could win easily. The Fool's Mate has to have happened at some point given the bullying context.
People don’t realize homer is literally a genius the man has a degree in nuclear engineering just for reference that is up there with the hardest to get a degree on
I can tell that someone in the writer's room just wrote out a personal experience lmao
Most likely just a common thing in life, children receiving bad parenting. Show's supposed to make viewers relate to it, in one way, or another.
I actually really appreciate this scene now that I've seen it because it reaffirms to me that I'm not the one that's in the wrong.
Funny that, knowing that I have no control over it, actually feels better than thinking it's my fault things are this way. It's not much better, but at least I don't have to direct all the negativity at myself.
That's kind of how good writing works
@@raiden_from_metal_gearI understand how you feel, and this may be too late, but I came from the same kind of home… you can always change. It’s hard, really, gruelingly hard, but you can. If you don’t want to put that effort in, that’s fine. But you can’t blame circumstance. That becomes your choice. And it is empowering to own your choice.
I hope you both find peace and happiness 😊 🙏 @@raiden_from_metal_gear
I think this shows that homer isn't inherently stupid just a savant smart in some ways dumb in others
Autistic Homer
Homer is smart, but the crayon up his nose suppressed his genius.
It shows that the writing is atrocious nowadays
@@exquisitemeat5845Yeah makes sense. I’m not good at computers or good at math but I’m pretty good at reading and games. Seems my writing was just atrocious right?
If you read the comics it’s revealed that Homer is actually a genius way back in the 90s. He got stupid by shoving crayons up his nose and chose to leave it there because he’s not happy being smart
Its sad because homer was really just oppressed from his talents by his dad
And the fact he had a crayon in his brain for a few decades
Homers doing it to Bart so can’t feel bad for him
Because that's the way his dad raised him, he thinks its how he should raise his son.
@@xerosereveracity88 Just cuz you think its right dosent mean it is.
@@gearsgamer7115he’s not saying it’s right, he’s was pointing out that due to him being raised like that, he believes that’s how he should be raising his son, hence most of the fault lies with Homer’s dad. Your point had nothing to do with what he said.
Born to be smart but forced to be dumb.
More like choosing, Homer was the one who decided to put the crayon back on his brain
Bro chess is just a game, being good at it doesn't make you smart.
@@skuty4882 No, chess makes you strategically smart, and also chess is a sport.
@@MoNKeYy002 Not necessarily nowadays chess has become a sport of intense memorization and very little randomness now all the moves seems pre memorized their is always a set move to any situation and if you find it you keep it for future games after playing alot of games you just memorize winning moves in any situation.......
@@goldenchef5354 most of the good chess players in the world are ones with high IQ, of course that doesn't mean that the best chess player is the smaller one,not at all,but almost all good chess players are smart
His dad was truly only playing to feel superior, once defeated it wasn't fun anymore, a true father would be flattered to lose to his offspring.
Poor Martin
It's a cartoon 😂😂
@@nathanjimenez5405 Obviously it is, but also very obvious this situation is based on real life that happens enough.
Is anyone debating that this cartoon is real?
Personally I want my offsprings to be better then me in every way possible. If I can do that, I did my job
I can't take it If I can't beat my own offspring. Like Star Wars, the original is the best...
Homer is a perfect example of showing great potential being snuffed out by terrible parenting.
and crayons
I can't imagine ever quitting a game because a family member beats me once.
@@photoo848 because the point wasn't to play the game, it was to feel superior to Homer
Not you tho. You wouldve been a loser regardless
And a crayon
Bruh, Homer actually found the only way to lose chess in 2 moves in the flashback
I’m not the only who saw that 😂
Same
Fr I was wondering if anyone else saw the fools mate 😂
Scholars mate
@@christophervalles8322 nuh uh
The fact he said "Devoted to me"... Homer really just needed to be treated right
That's right but it's also like saying Student and master in a sense of the context
Homer's complex character is a result of his upbringing and hidden talents shining through.
actually its from being a main character to a series thats run on for way too long
Real
NOT AGAIN!!
Ai
what employee is writing this one champ?
The fact that Homer could've been like Lisa if he had a better father is always insane to me, he still had the crayon in his brain that makes him dumb too
I know its crazy!
Homer played a master and is a nuclear reactor engineer he smart smart
When he want to be
@@jamesjustjamesclgames6574smart people are the dumbest sometimes
When Homer got his job in the 1980's he didn't need a degree. A dummy having an inherently dangerous job is funny now but it was reality then.
The safety nuclear reactor position, was just a position, in fact they showed that Lenny's console was the one that was the actual working one, and Homer's was just a dud, a fake, to make him feel important.
@mikehinkley3468 you could argue people with degrees are the idiotic sheep tbh
Rare footage of Bart actually calling Homer "dad"
Nah in modern day Simpsons he always calls him dad because Disney doesn’t want to have a bad image
@@Samandrewsisthegreatestthat's been a thing before Disney, doesn't make much sense either way
@@billclockwellhe doesn’t always respect him
@@Samandrewsisthegreatestpeople are weird why would people think bad of Disney because of that. Though I think it is weird when kids call their parents by their name I knew a girl and a boy who always called their father by his name. Never understood why. The boy grew to be the biggest asshole in existence while the girl got into a psychic ward after attacking her mother. Coincidence? I THINK NOT!!!
@fallennarcotic6981 oh yeah, well I knew a girl called Jean Finch, who used to call her dad by his first name. Want to know what happened to that lot? Well her brother got away with murder after the sheriff insisted his victim merely fell on his own blade. Something to consider.
homer have talents. he used to be boxer and opera singer
He wasn't a good boxer he just has a thick skull and can take a hit.
@@ignotouno523 Talented in all sports you take a hit and beyond you say?
And he can tank cannon balls
Nuclear Reactor Engineer too :D
He also was able to predict the rapture and sang in famous boy band
Homer being a random chess savant is such a great character beat. Totally believable. He would 1000% be THAT guy who’s inexplicably beating people’s asses in park.
He implies it took him a long time to get to that point!
He wasnt a genuis, he was hard working and earned his skills
Very True!
he's canonically as smart as lisa
Audience: Man, why does Homer treat Abe so badly in his old age?
(Sees flashbacks of Homer’s childhood)
Audience: oh 😐, never mind. Makes sense now
Actual audiences: haha this shows so funny.
End of story
@@mynamejeff4642I mean… it can be both lol, people like analyzing things.
@@mynamejeff4642 You are the type of guy who responds "because it's fiction" to any question about a show or movie
@@mynamejeff4642 you can find it funny and be a normal critical person at the same time
@nuggetsplace8273 the simpsons is probably the greatest animated show ever made overanalysing and crying over the way characters behave which is what makes them funny BTW leads to utter sh!t like modern simpsons
Okay homer mustve played ALOT to actually get good cause in the flashback woth abe he litterally played the quickest way to lose in chess💀
If im not wrong its the wayward queen opening that wins you the game
He played the fools mate
You gotta intentionally play that bad to lose in 3 moves@@hamoody8254
Google en passant
@nikkari5780 this has nothing to do with en passant
@@nikkari5780Holy hell
Everytime I feel bad whenever Homer bullies his father I end up feeling like he deserves it everytime I see moments of Homer’s childhood.
I agree
Yeah there are lots of reasons Homer is a bad parent, but Abe is far and away the worst parent in this show.
I love it how they treat Homer like he's an idiot but he is by far the most experienced character in the show
i've always found it amazing to think Lisa actually likely gets her smarts from Homer. I mostly think of the crayon in his brain episode.
"Hey, Blobby Fischer you're up"
*gets coached by Bobby Fischer*
Thank you I’m not the only one who got it
Bobby Fischer was from the USA and the coach of Homer had a russian accent. So that doesnt male sense but it could be a master from the USSR because nearly all of the best players in the world at that time were from the USSR and it would also make sense with the accent.
@@RenShaadow So it's either Karpov or Kasparov
@@user-zu1ir2mv2p I dont think it is either one of because as far as I know wouldnt ad up regarding the time they were activ but I dont know when the show takes places. It could be Boris Wassiljewitsch Spasski who lost the world championship to Bobby Fischer in 1972.
nah it says drove bobby crazy, not by bobby
The attention to detail is actually very good. All the moves were correct and checkmate. Also, the flashback with Homer and his dad showed Homer falling for the “fools mate”, which is the fastest checkmate possible in the game.
Isn't it called a scholar's mate?
@@hello_fwendno that’s the 4 move checkmate with the early queen
@@hello_fwendI thought that, too. The 4-move mate is the scholar's mate; the fool's mate can be done in two moves.
Ha ha, buncha nerds. /j
@@partypartyyeah303 Oh, look. Nelson has entered the chat.
"checkmate"
Old mans hair be reaching out for the sky 💀
Well he just lost a $22 bill! 😅
He lost a game associated with intelligence against Homer Simpson
Crazy how in depth they made Homer's character. Thinking about how long this show been going on though you can't help but come out with good writing
It really is sad to see a parent discouraging a talent instead of pursuing it
Slitface is actually a cool name for bishop
Better than "walker(läufer)" like it's called here and definitely better than bishop
Sounds like a character from Hellraiser
@@jimkid1392😂😂😂
@@jimkid1392that's what I was gonna say! 🤣🤣🤣
@@jimkid1392
Was thinking the same thing 😂
all that with the pencil still in his brain. now you understand how genius homer is when they take out the pencil
It was a crayon but yeah.
“Make it a 22”
**Pulls out Ruger Mk IV**
I was just thinking that😂
I was thinking catch-22 but the gun seals the deal.
And this is Homer who's been nerfed by a crayon.
That Blobby Fischer line was absolute gold!
blobby fischer
blobby fischer
blobby fischer
Blobby blicher
Ha! Reference and a insult. Classic!
bloby fischer
Beating a family member in any game and your parents banned you for getting good at it.
_Why is this scene so relatable to me already?_
The young homer lore keeps expanding
Gotta keep the show going
and everyday makes less sense. One thing is character growth, and another one is just to keep contradicting what the character is. And yes...I say this regardless of the crayon episode
I honestly feel the “ruined it by getting good at it thing” it really happens
Damn, Abraham was an Awful Father.
You know, the more lore I see of how spiteful Abe was throughout Homer's childhood, it makes me feel less sorry for him being in a home.
Oh absolutely. It’s an incredibly dysfunctional relationship.
Homer has always been the smartest person. He’s an astronaut, works at a nuclear power plant, birthed brilliant kids like Lisa, Bart and Maggie and keeps a woman like Marge happy. He does all that without people noticing or coming off as arrogant.
He is literally the smartest, he just lobotomized himself with a pencil when he was a child. In one episode they removed it from his brains and he became insanely smart.
@@nikkari5780 yeah it was a crayon and he chose to put it back to make everyone else happy.
Having smart kids does not make you smart.
@@amsterfy1767 it adds to the argument. He and Marge are great parents and have stayed together. Not to mention, IQ is largely hereditary.
@@steve4729I wouldn't call IQ "largely hereditary." Everyone has a set IQ when they're born, this is called instincts. But everything after that is skilled.
I like that he actually practiced it a lot and it had a backstory, a lot of the time in cartoons characters just get random incredible talents for no reason for an episode
Was completely ready for this to be a savant episode and was more than pleasantly subverted by how much thought and care went into it.
Being smart in Chess is an achievement
The crayon must have not affected the chess department fully
Homer isn't really stupid he just doesn't really have common sense
Some sort of chess ability is actually a required checkbox to become a dad
That's not the case, I learned from friends in eigth grade
The book "Why can't black move first' 💀
By Malcom X 😭😭😭
where
Bro's dad was so dramatic about a chess match💀
Had a similar experience. I'm the youngest in a house of 7. Everyone always loved playing games with me until i was about 13-14. It was funny how quickly people stopped playing when they stopped winning. I lost for 14 years and they couldn't handle 1 month.... Pathetic.
The Mini Ashtray got me dying 😭
"Check MATE"
*becomes lorax*
Homer losing in 2 moves is crazy
he didnt lose, g3 stops Qh4
Homer is truly a talented person
That's sad and messed up " we had a perfect thing and you had to go ruin it"
They really giving homer a straight up new backstory
"Why can't black move first by MALCOLM X" 😂
Just seen that 😅
"Why cant black move first? - Malcom X" gets me every time
The fact that homer is so genius that he can think coherently and speak normally with a crayon stuffed up his nose which is literally touching his brain is amazing
Every time i see a chess board in a piece of media I analyze the position, and check if its actually checkmate. Kinda like the whole piano being improperly animated thing. Ive found most of the time people actually set up a checkmate on the board
We're just glossing over the crayon in his brain at this point.
Dr Horse.
An obvious reference to the “Grey Horse” when Gregory House was secretly reading his ex girlfriend’s, (Stacy) report on how much she cant stop thinking about a particular grey coloured horse even though she was married to a jealous cripple.
vicodinpilled
If there's one game people should learn, it's chess.
The "stupid mate" detail in the first clip that showed his young self is genius
That professor sounds like a character from lilo and stitch
Its no wonder why Abe is in the old age home
""Why can't black move first?" By Malcolm X."
The way i laughed at that.. Lol.
Never reveal your strengths too soon, sometimes its genius that others think you're a fool.
Sooo many people are like this too. They will be incredibly gifted, focused and smart at something while failing to pick up other simple things
Dang Homer's dad really said that Homer always losing at chess was a beautiful thing
season 28 episode 14
I'VE BEEN SEARCHING FOR HOURS
This not the episode. This episode is about hotdog
@@zogoe Not in fact if it's the chapter, inform yourself before you speak
@@cqc_123 episode name is called Fatzcarraldo nothing about chess sir
@@zogoe SEASON 28 EPISODE 14
I love the detail that Abe won with a Fool's Mate (checkmate in 2 moves). We all laugh like that when we get it.
he didnt win tho, homer has g3 to stop the check
@30 seconds, Homer's dad gaslit him! It wasn't actually mate, because Homer could have moved his G2 pawn to G3 and maintained protection, because he still has H2 pawn defending... also, Homer had 9 pawns, but those are just some details from a cartoon.
Impressed that they used real chess openings and positions for this
Fun fact: Homer is actually a genius.
The fact that for the animation they went as far to actually make the chess pieces positioning correctly makes it 10 times better.
In the game with the old man he wins with Knight g3# because there's the b5 Bishop covering g1 square, and the h2 pawn can't take the g3 Knight cause there's the h8 Queen.
While in the flashback where he play with his father. Homer loses to a Fool's mate, which is a 2 moves losing mate.
Edit: I picked this two games cause' they were the easiest ones to have a complete view of the chessboard and the pieces positioning
homer has g3 to stop Qh4 in the game vs his dad
@@CharcoalBlasterdog You just made me notice an animation error cause he already moved the g row pawn, but another one appears in the next cut
@@Kazunerd17 he has 9 pawns :D
Mini ashtray 🤣😭🤣😭🤣
got me rolling
I knew this would pop out here😂😂
Bro got fools mated 💀
no, g3 stops the check
Man, the more and more shows Homer isn't stupid...he just want to get by and be better
Теперь я буду учить английский на симпсонах
NO WAY HOMER DID A FOOL'S MATE HAHAHAHAHA
Given Ane at the time wanted him to win, he must have taught Homer the bare minimum just so he could win easily. The Fool's Mate has to have happened at some point given the bullying context.
The fact that unironically homer is literally the best fictional father right now is wholesome
Abe is a silly billy
Queen's gambit show, but with homer instead
Homer is actually a genius I think a crayon lodged in his brain is holding him back lol
Blobby Fischer 💀
That “professor” was Bobby Fischer 🧍🏽
Lisa has the straw hat
Is she the next pirate king? 🧐
She has the Will of D...
lol one of Homer trait is “he can be dumb but he smart in some way” 😂
Mrs. King is like saying "gay" in chess language😭💀💀
Let’s remember that Homer learned all of this while he had a crayon stuck in his brain.
He wasnt even checkmated by his dad in the example shown lmao
Bart and Homer aren’t stupid, they’re just smart in their own categories
Again, another example of Homer showing that he is actually smart
The mini ashtray, I thought I was the only one who saw that.
Isn't no one gonna talk about how bart called homer dad instead of his name
Everyone forgets though, that cannon, hes brilliant. He's just got a crayon shoved into his brain.
"blobby fisher"
Is a reference to Bobby fisher who was so good he eventually stopped playing because he got bored of chess
People don’t realize homer is literally a genius the man has a degree in nuclear engineering just for reference that is up there with the hardest to get a degree on
even with that crayon in his brain, he still shows small gimpses of his genius sometimes.
This is the perfect example of how no matter how dumb you are you're still capable of learning
I never thought Homer would be smart
I dunno why Blobby Fischer made me laugh, but that was great lol
Bro lost so bad that he prohibited to play chess💀
I’m pretty sure that Norwegian chess player made a guest appearance in this episode